general

[proper wind]

it is

[azure bloom]

or is this code just an example?

[frigid umbra]

That code is just an example, what did you think?

[azure bloom]

oh, io.library

forget it

[frigid umbra]

Specifically, that code was taken from my import gather tests

Hence it's a bit cursed

[azure bloom]

but for what are you actually doing this

[proper wind]

just a bit

[frigid umbra]

The real reason: fun. The more "complete" reason: my annotation processor based command framework

[azure bloom]

mhh

[frigid umbra]

Because I was tired of working with raw strings and wanted some proper typing

And the import gathering was absolutely awful too, since I had to "predict" the imports that the generated code would use

Which is everything but good

And also, as far as I can tell, no library exists which would make this easier. JavaPoet does exists, but that does not have proper statements modelled, only classes, methods, fields

Which I feel like defeats the whole purpose of code gen, but what do I know

[indigo mesa]

this looks a lot better then javapoet

[frigid umbra]

Someone give me a simple class to modell

[azure bloom]

abstract class Task(val icon: Material, val name: String, val description: String) {

or do you need functions?

[frigid umbra]

Tbh that's fine

[indigo mesa]

i dont think it supports kotlin

[frigid umbra]

It doesn't, but I can make the Java equivalent

[proper wind]

i actually have a Task class on my lib

[azure bloom]

for what?

oh for schedulers/bukkittasks?

[frigid umbra]

Why are you questioning everything lmao

[proper wind]

for that

[azure bloom]

No I ment literally, what they are used for xd

I was just curious

[azure bloom]

didnt want to be rude

[worthy geode]

why are you questioning the questioning

[proper wind]

why are you questioning the questioning of the questioning

[indigo mesa]

why are you questioning the questioning of the questioning of the questioning

[frigid umbra]

That'd be something like this. (Java code for this is the following one:)

public abstract Task {
  public final Material icon;
  public final String name;
  public final String description;

  public Task(Material icon, String name, String description) {
    this.icon = icon;
    this.name = name;
    this.description = description;
  }
}

I don't have assign statements implemented since I don't expect to use them myself atm, but they'd be a very small change of like 10 lines

[indigo mesa]

that is really cool

[azure bloom]

cant wait to write a whole Plugin with this

my customer is gonna love the extra 20 hours spent on assigning a variable

[worthy geode]

thats why its a yap util

[frigid umbra]

it stands for JAVA ANNOTATION PROCESSOR UTIL insert shouting emoji

[azure bloom]

japu

https://tenor.com/view/yapapa-gif-13445530208300392258

wait give me a second. Im cooking something

[indigo mesa]

hey strokk, do you have any tips for making gradle plugins?

[rough dragon]

give the gradle documentation a good read

they're very good

[frigid umbra]

Yes, gradle init, select the gradle plugin thing, delete the Kotlin code it generated, use Java

Works very well

[indigo mesa]

got it

[rough dragon]

eh, you can get very far using kotlin dsl for your gradle plugins

you can use Java but it feels wrong

[frigid umbra]

I am just being petty

https://github.com/Strokkur424/strokk-conventions

[azure bloom]

🔥

[rough dragon]

if anything it makes following the lifecycle easier

[indigo mesa]

it would be cool if mcdev made a cli tool

[frigid umbra]

lmao

you could also probably just extract the template creation stuff and it'd work with a few changes

[rough dragon]

the stuff it does is pretty tied to IJ last I looked, would be hard to detach it in order to make a good cli

[frigid umbra]

I love how we said two absolutely different things

[indigo mesa]

xD

[rough dragon]

doesn't it use IJ's template language, whatever it was that they used

[frigid umbra]

Velocity, sure, but they are using their own thing over it

[rough dragon]

so yeah, it ends up being muddy

probably a good task for the clanker

[frigid umbra]

I also specifically mean if you bundle Velocity with the CLI tool

Aka keeping it compatible with the current template system and stuff

Oh cool, GitHub stopped working

Thanks a lot

[indigo mesa]

we love github

[proper wind]

the hackers love it too

[rough dragon]

just another thursday for Github

[frigid umbra]

It's not like I wanted to check the src on github

[azure bloom]

luckily its 80% wrote by AI

[frigid umbra]

[warm anchor]

Don’t worry guys the AI will fix GitHub

[frigid umbra]

Well, local code it is

[azure bloom]

which repo did you open?

[indigo mesa]

works fine for me

[frigid umbra]

minecraft-dev/MinecraftDev

Or something like that idk

I close the tab

[e-mail]:minecraft-dev/MinecraftDev.git

I was right

[rough dragon]

https://github.com/minecraft-dev/MinecraftDev

[azure bloom]

does work fine for me tbh https://www.githubstatus.com/

not even the status website shows problem

[indigo mesa]

wheres the real github status

https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/

[frigid umbra]

Yeah so if you check under src/main/kotlin/creator, the input stuff is obviously dependant on IJ currently, but the actual template generation is purely apache Velocity

[indigo mesa]

I thought you were talking about papermc velocity lol

[frigid umbra]

It wouldn't be unthinkable to extract that part and just make the input be a CLI

[frigid umbra]

Nope, many confusing names!

Holy shit, Car Mechanic Simulator 2018 is free

[indigo mesa]

uh yes please

wow steam is ded

[magic river]

I'm not german enough for this game

[frigid umbra]

Hell yeah, welcome to my library

[azure bloom]

I think your internet is maybe broken

[indigo mesa]

if you dont click on the icon it doesnt open the page

weird

[proper wind]

imagine playing a work simulator

[indigo mesa]

oh yeahhhhh

[frigid umbra]

Imagine working a real life job

Fuck I should go and eat something

It's 10:21 pm

Haven't had lunch yet

[indigo mesa]

what timezone is that lol

[frigid umbra]

CET

Germany!

[indigo mesa]

its 3:22 PM for me

[frigid umbra]

That sounds like west coast America?

No, not west coast

[indigo mesa]

central

[frigid umbra]

Just normal america central

[indigo mesa]

yep

[frigid umbra]

Yeah fuck, I knew it

I kinda miscalculated

[azure bloom]

Oh damn, I thought asia (mongolia/vietnam)

[frigid umbra]

asia is ahead

3pm means it's behind, which is america

[azure bloom]

I swear he edited the PM

[frigid umbra]

He did

[indigo mesa]

I added the PM

[azure bloom]

didnt saw it xd

I thought 3:22AM

[frigid umbra]

I was about to ask AM/PM

[indigo mesa]

if you can guess the state you get a cookie

[frigid umbra]

California

[indigo mesa]

that is not central LOL

[frigid umbra]

Dude idfk where california is

[azure bloom]

Minnesota? (is this central?)

[indigo mesa]

that is central

[frigid umbra]

oh it's the most west that's possible

[azure bloom]

Iowa ig?

[magic river]

Illinois just because I think that's where like half the people in central time are

[rough dragon]

it is <t:1779395040:t> for me

[frigid umbra]

Dude, that's not how that works

[azure bloom]

I think Louisana is the last state I remeber in central

[indigo mesa]

I think Louisiana is central

[frigid umbra]

I am guessing Texas

[indigo mesa]

not entirely sure

[magic river]

Oh yeah I always forget Texas

[azure bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/howdyfeller-howdy-feller-howdy-sam-elliot-sam-elliot-howdy-gif-1691153279806890689

[proper wind]

@indigo mesa https://github.com/system32developer/SystemCore/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/com/system32dev/systemCore/utils/tasks/CountdownTask.kt

look at that class

[azure bloom]

north-/southdakota?

[indigo mesa]

80% sure thats west coast

im like in the exact middle

[frigid umbra]

I am guessing Illinois

[azure bloom]

Kansas?

[indigo mesa]

im in the middle of those 2 lol

[frigid umbra]

Missouri?

[azure bloom]

Missouri or arkansas?

[indigo mesa]

yep lol

[frigid umbra]

Let's go

[indigo mesa]

have a 🍪

[frigid umbra]

I had to check a map lmao

[indigo mesa]

XD

[frigid umbra]

Now @indigo mesa, can you tell me if France is west or east of Spain?

[indigo mesa]

gotta get the geography in

france is north no?

[proper wind]

kansas 💀

[frigid umbra]

Is it directly above Spain?

[indigo mesa]

yeah im right

lets go

[frigid umbra]

Damn you looked

Cheater

[indigo mesa]

i looked after i guessed

[frigid umbra]

Okay next one: tell me three neighboring states to Austria

[indigo mesa]

im pretty good at geography

sometimes

[indigo mesa]

uh

making my brain think

[azure bloom]

capital city of poland?

[indigo mesa]

wait lemme go get the placemat

aww I must of lost the world map

[frigid umbra]

Uff

[indigo mesa]

yeah idk stuff like that

[frigid umbra]

I actually have a globe in my room

[indigo mesa]

I do have 3 different USA ones

[proper wind]

Damn webhead ignored me

Sadly

[indigo mesa]

wait what

[proper wind]

is ok

Leave it

[indigo mesa]

sorry :(

[proper wind]

I understand that love is not mutual

[indigo mesa]

I thought i sent the message

:((((

[frigid umbra]

Never has been

[proper wind]

We should leave it here

[frigid umbra]

@oak horizon knows

[indigo mesa]

[proper wind]

Maybe chatgpt will love me

[azure bloom]

@oak horizon 👋

[frigid umbra]

Okay I am off to eat, don't stop me

Another 10 minutes have passed smh

[proper wind]

it is like

CountdownTask(5)
    .atHalf { something }
    .at(3,2,1) { println(it) }

[proper wind]

Food doenst love we neither

[oak horizon]

what

[proper wind]

My library is designed to save me time lol

[indigo mesa]

that is cool

[azure bloom]

Love is not always mutual

[oak horizon]

True

strokk is always mean to me

[proper wind]

It also has other options for when the countdown starts, ends, and other things perhaps I should add some more features

[indigo mesa]

I needed something like that lol

oh this is bukkit

nvm

[worthy geode]

please name this country

[indigo mesa]

minestom ❤️

[azure bloom]

No this is not minestom

[indigo mesa]

wth is that

[oak horizon]

Damn @frigid umbra being mean again and then just leaving me after pinging

[indigo mesa]

that doesnt exist

[proper wind]

i also have async {}, asyncTransaction {}, task {}, asyncTask {} etc

[azure bloom]

He's eating! Dont interrupt

[frigid umbra]

I would never stick around

[proper wind]

England?

[oak horizon]

I offer food

[frigid umbra]

Germany

[azure bloom]

Europe

[oak horizon]

Also I am frodolon certified

[indigo mesa]

Asia

[frigid umbra]

When I am in Berlin, I shall allow you to take me out to burger

[oak horizon]

I didnt say that my offer is for free

[indigo mesa]

what kind of burger do yall eat across the pond

[frigid umbra]

Double bacon

[worthy geode]

Listenbourg, obviously

[oak horizon]

burger with real meat

[indigo mesa]

I will say deer meat is amazing

[frigid umbra]

It's literally Germany though. You never specified which time period

Or which alternative universe

[oak horizon]

strokk yapping again

[proper wind]

I dont eat burgers

[frigid umbra]

It's your fault

[oak horizon]

I see no fault here on my side

[frigid umbra]

I am not the problem, it's always you

[oak horizon]

U summoned me

[azure bloom]

beyond meat is a good meat alternative. I can recommend making a burger patty out of potatoes and" soja granulat" ( i have no fcking idea how to translate that)

[indigo mesa]

I like chicken BLT

[proper wind]

Why is junk food so cheap in the US?

[frigid umbra]

You could've ignored the summon

[indigo mesa]

from wendys

[indigo mesa]

define cheap

[oak horizon]

u know I would never ignore u :3

[indigo mesa]

mcdonalds is like 20 bucks for 2 people

[azure bloom]

hate love relationship

[proper wind]

All the friends I know say it's cheaper than other types of food

[indigo mesa]

depends on where you go

[proper wind]

I've never been to the US, but that's what they say

[rough dragon]

it is cheap if you eat alone

[indigo mesa]

I can agree with that

[rough dragon]

for a family, it adds up

[frigid umbra]

No idea what you mean

[azure bloom]

do you like the 🟠 man?

[indigo mesa]

the doordash prices are insane tho

its like 5$ to get things delivered

and they still want tips

[rough dragon]

tip culture will be damned

[azure bloom]

I mean, doordash doesnt pay them fair so Its kinda understandable to want tips

[rough dragon]

only time I tip is when I go to a cafe

[frigid umbra]

I find it wild that one emoji is enough to uniquely identify a single person in this entire world

[indigo mesa]

I will tip people if they do their job

[hard mirage]

that's honestly not entirely true I'm not gonna lie

[indigo mesa]

but if they dont

it does depend where you live

[hard mirage]

if you head to the store and buy fruits and veggies that are in season its super cheap

[rough dragon]

there are other apps that pay better, people just choose doordash out of use

[azure bloom]

but I mean do you really need doordash?

[hard mirage]

even here up north out of season vegetables are fairly cheap.

[proper wind]

Oh cool

I like to cook

[azure bloom]

yore also a merican?

[proper wind]

If I lived alone, I would always cook my own food

[indigo mesa]

merica

[hard mirage]

Cooking is pretty much always cheaper you're buying in bulk

[azure bloom]

yeah merica 🔥 🦅

[indigo mesa]

it seems like most papermc people are from germany

[frigid umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025

[rough dragon]

there is a good chunk of german people here

half of the core team is

[azure bloom]

I think germany has a pretty big minecraft scene in general

[frigid umbra]

Always has been!

[hard mirage]

I'm from Wisconsin I'm pretty much a rip off german

[indigo mesa]

cheese

[frigid umbra]

Miles, please say one sentence in German

[azure bloom]

We should change the main language on this server

[rough dragon]

kindergarten

[azure bloom]

native german right here

[indigo mesa]

I have no idea how to spell it

[proper wind]

Makes sense

[indigo mesa]

but I can say around 3 words in german

[hard mirage]

no hablo Alemán

[frigid umbra]

I shall return to cooking

This is getting too radical

[rough dragon]

how long have you been cooking

[frigid umbra]

My whole life

[indigo mesa]

and what are you cooking

[hard mirage]

a lot of people believeeee that junk food is cheaper, but it really isn't the case if you're smart with your money

[frigid umbra]

But I've been cooking my food for 0 seconds now, I am still warming up water

[proper wind]

Are u spanish too?

[rough dragon]

I think I saw you say you would start cooking like an hour ago

[azure bloom]

what are you cooking?

[frigid umbra]

I wanted to grab something to eat

But never got to it

[frigid umbra]

Gonna make myself some noodles

[indigo mesa]

sounds like spaghetti or noodles

yeah i was right

[frigid umbra]

Very simple stuff today

[hard mirage]

I think the perception comes from the fact that alot of stores like Whole Foods and Woodmans that prioritize organic food are extremely expensive. But normal grocery stores also carry healthy food

[frigid umbra]

It's too late for fancy stuff

[rough dragon]

make some white sauce, spice it up

[proper wind]

Makes sense

[rough dragon]

really easy to make as well

[hard mirage]

no

[frigid umbra]

Mf I am just gonna put cheese on it and call it a day

[rough dragon]

white sauce with cheese is so good tho

[azure bloom]

but isnt walmart pretty cheap?

[frigid umbra]

I have neither the time nor the ingredients for any sort of sauce

[indigo mesa]

the prices at Whole Foods and Sprouts are CRAZY

[hard mirage]

I had to look up the spanish word for germany my vocabulary is pretty small in spanish

[rough dragon]

you just need milk, flour and either butter or oil

[hard mirage]

I don't like walmart tbh so I don't shop there

[frigid umbra]

I dont have flour

[hard mirage]

I would not know

[indigo mesa]

alfredo my beloved

[proper wind]

I thought I would meet another Spaniard besides me and Javier sadly

[azure bloom]

Which stores you visit?

[hard mirage]

I always shop at local grocers its money that goes back to the local economy vs being shipped out immediately

[azure bloom]

is Aldi still a thing in the freedom country?

[indigo mesa]

yes

[frigid umbra]

Pretty sure it is

I find that so funny

[azure bloom]

🔥

[indigo mesa]

There is one right next to my walmart lol

[azure bloom]

always go to aldi

[frigid umbra]

Which one do you prefer?

[hard mirage]

My area is very mexican so its something you pick up a little but again my vocab is small and most of my knowledge is reading and listening vs speaking lol

[indigo mesa]

Aldi is really expensive but good stuff

but walmart has more things

I go to both

[hard mirage]

Also I can't say this without doxing my self pretty much

[indigo mesa]

Aldi has some amazing broccoli chicken package thing

really good

[azure bloom]

wait, aldi is expensive in the us? thats so sad. Aldi is basically on of the cheapest stores in germany

[indigo mesa]

like 10 minutes

[azure bloom]

I see

[indigo mesa]

well i dont want to pay like (i think) 9.45$ for a gallon of milk

[hard mirage]

its the downside of using local grocers

no one can share in my joy of support local business

[azure bloom]

I think bio quality is roughly equally in germany

[frigid umbra]

Wtf

[indigo mesa]

that might not be correct

[azure bloom]

1 Gallon is 4,5l

[frigid umbra]

WAit I don't know how much one gallon is

[frigid umbra]

Ah jesus christ

Okay then it's a normal price

[indigo mesa]

lemme double check

[frigid umbra]

Actually still on the expensive side

[azure bloom]

bio

[indigo mesa]

I was very wrong

[proper wind]

Tu espanol poquito

[indigo mesa]

idk what I saw

[frigid umbra]

One liter of good milk costs like 80 cents

Idk if bio, but it comes in a bottle

[azure bloom]

huh

[hard mirage]

at my peak I was at like a 2nd grade level of reading and writing

though since I'm so introverted I've never been a good speaker

[frigid umbra]

Actually idk if that's even a thing in aldi, I might be confusing stores here

[proper wind]

Idk how i know english tbh

It just spawned on my head

[hard mirage]

being exposed lol

[worthy geode]

the normal 1L milk at Aldi is 0,95€

[hard mirage]

its so easy to run into english you have to be deliberate about other languages on the internet

[azure bloom]

glass bottle for 80c??

[worthy geode]

I just bought it like an hour ago

[indigo mesa]

do yall eat avocados in germany

[azure bloom]

of course

[proper wind]

Im learning Italian

[frigid umbra]

Yeah idk , maybe my local stores are just goated

[azure bloom]

probably

[hard mirage]

I hate avocados they go bad too quickly

[azure bloom]

eat them faster??

[indigo mesa]

if you put them in the fridge they dont go out as fast

[hard mirage]

depending where you're from you might find avocados to be cheaper in the US since we get them straight from mexico

[indigo mesa]

93 cents for 1

idk if that is expensive

lemme check walmart

[frigid umbra]

I am closing Discord just so that I don't get distracted, my food is almost done. I will now eat my food whilst watching anime and then continue coding my jap-utils library

Have fun

[indigo mesa]

enjoy

[azure bloom]

bye bye

[proper wind]

Never remove the center part this makes them last longer

[proper wind]

Haha thats funny

[indigo mesa]

they are actually cheaper at walmart then aldi

60 cents at walmart compared to 93 at aldi

[azure bloom]

origin and quality are probably a big factor

[charred sleet]

why are hard drives still kinda expensive

[azure bloom]

someone needs to buy another yacht

[charred sleet]

idk why I thought they would be much cheaper

[proper wind]

AI fault

[indigo mesa]

I am glad that I bought my pc when I did

would of gotten a lot more expensive

[hard mirage]

My PC turned 5 years old this year 🥲

[proper wind]

Will you send it to school?

[hard mirage]

its been with me the entire time in college so its already been going to school

[proper wind]

I just bought mine like 1 week ago sadly

[indigo mesa]

oooh

[proper wind]

It hurt me to pay for the ram

[indigo mesa]

how much?

ram

[hard mirage]

DDR4 ftw

[proper wind]

I remember buying RAM for about $30 two years ago

Now it was like 100

16gb

[hard mirage]

I'm laying on a stack of like 5 1 TB SSDs I could be rich now adays

[azure bloom]

https://geizhals.de/wishlists/4344489 100 you say

[proper wind]

Now that is like gold

[hard mirage]

I actually sold 2 to my friend for like 100 or something a while back

[proper wind]

Yeah more actually

[proper wind]

I bought a friend's 1TB SSD before it went up in price

[indigo mesa]

I got 2tb in my latop

[hard mirage]

I sold way below market price we are friends for a reason :P

I just wanted to lend a helping hand

[indigo mesa]

I do have probably 32 gb of ram laying around in old laptops

😭

[proper wind]

Damn

I need more ram 16 is not enough

That's my baby

[indigo mesa]

you needed like 8 gb for paperweight back in the day lol

[indigo mesa]

fancy rbg

nvida card?

[proper wind]

Wtf

[proper wind]

Yeah 5060 Ti

[indigo mesa]

noice

[proper wind]

But I'll buy the 16GB 5060 Ti soon

[indigo mesa]

why not 5090?

[proper wind]

Because im poor

[azure bloom]

5090 has more vram then his whole pc

and costs like 7x the 5060

[proper wind]

5090 is like 5 times the price of the 5060

Yeah

[azure bloom]

7x on Geizhals

[proper wind]

I only need more vram to play ark

I mean i can on low graphics

That game sucks but i love it

[indigo mesa]

which ark?

[azure bloom]

🦖 ?

[proper wind]

Ascended ofc

I mean i can play with unstable 60fps on medium graphics with dlss and frame generation x2, but disabling clouds and fog

That makes it look like Evolved, that's why I want more vram, to feel like I'm in Ascended

[indigo mesa]

I used to have ark on my xbox

and IPad

[proper wind]

Ark is cool i love it

But i also hate it with all my heart

[indigo mesa]

why?

[proper wind]

To make mods you need 1TB of space to install the devkit

A monkey optimized it

[indigo mesa]

yeesh

didnt they fix that like a month ago

[proper wind]

And other 30 problems

[indigo mesa]

like compressed the textures or smth

[proper wind]

I don't know, but it requires too many things to play it decently

Clouds literally cost you 100 fps

Even with a 5090 you can't play at maximum settings at more than 100fps

[indigo mesa]

thats crazy

[proper wind]

Yeah it sucks but i still love it

It's a love-hate relationship, you know

[magic river]

https://infosec.exchange/@rebane2001/116606719764376414

Rebane (@[e-mail])

back in 2022 i found a bug that would let me, with no user interaction, turn any chromium-based browser into a permanent js botnet member

in edge, you wouldn't even notice anything out-of-place, and would stay connected to the c2 even after closing the browser

today, almost 4 years later, the bug is finally public:
issues.chromium.org/issues/400…

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Turns out they didn't actually fix it....

[rough dragon]

I was beating the shit out of my mouse

turns out it wasn't the mouse that was dead but the port

poor thing almost became electronic waste

[brave radish]

https://github.com/EVV1E/waylandcraft

I'm sorry, what?

https://github.com/EVV1E/waylandcraft/raw/main/assets/screenshot.png

[upper flicker]

sounds like we’re doing the next snapshot update within minecraft

[rough dragon]

I sent a Brodie video about this yesterday lol

it is kinda insane. If they added multiplayer support it would actually be awesome

[magic river]

If they added multiplayer people would rant about it being the only way to do wayland over the network

[sage sinew]

Anyone else watching starship launch?

[magic river]

Isn't that saturday?

I guess not, although they've paused the countdown

[sage sinew]

It's legit rn

They are at 40s pause

Final checks

[magic river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBu6JFjt0tk

[sage sinew]

Up to 2 more minutes of pause

Otherwise its a scrub

[magic river]

Launchpad is messing it up apparently

[sage sinew]

Yeah, specifically the quick disconnect

Most likely a scrub

Ah its the pressure for the water coming out of the launchpad

Makes sense

[twin lagoon]

[true canyon]

clock went down a lil

[magic river]

Hold gets released, water starts, trips a hold due to low pressure

They've done it 3 times now I think

[true canyon]

Oh. Oof.

[magic river]

Scrubbed

[true canyon]

https://tenor.com/g9gubHH1B9r.gif

[sage sinew]

Rip

Oh flight tmr?

[frigid umbra]

Oh hey my IntelliJ froze

I did not know it could do that

Like it froze completely, 100% unresponsive

No better than a background picture

Wtf I restarted it and it completely froze again?

???

[cunning raft]

is it updated

[frigid umbra]

Yes

I re-opened my project for the third time, close all of the windows/files, and now we hope

It froze again

[hard mirage]

I had a similar issue with intellij a year or so ago I just had to downgrade until the next update

[rough dragon]

open it via terminal and check what it spews out

[frigid umbra]

I might just try that

The other freaky thing that is currently happening is that my unit tests are passing first try

This is giving me a bad feeling

[frigid umbra]

It spits out absolutely nothing; it's just blank

I mean, there are logs, but nothing after it freezes

[rough dragon]

that's fun

[frigid umbra]

Also wtf why is it showing this

Dude, 2am is making me crazy

What's up with my computer

[rough dragon]

no idea why it would do that

[frigid umbra]

Well you now also renamed yourself, but this is all very weird

Let me open a ticket in the issue tracked of IJ

(or rather, lemme first see if a similar issue exists)

[rough dragon]

I put my coins on your memory dying

[frigid umbra]

You mean my heap filling up

Not my physical memory sticks

[rough dragon]

physical

blame hardware first

[frigid umbra]

If that were the case, that would suck so incredibly fucking much

[hard mirage]

I doubt it tbh this is just average intellij problem lol

[frigid umbra]

Please don't wish that even upon your biggest enemy

[rough dragon]

I've never experienced anything like that

[frigid umbra]

That's like the worst thing you can wish them

[rough dragon]

with today's economy, probably

[hard mirage]

I've had such issues with intellij in the past

Strokk have you tried emptying your caches before it freezes or do you not have enough time

also have you tried downgrading your version

[frigid umbra]

I have plenty of time

I have not tried downgrading

And I have not emptied my caches

[hard mirage]

... okay maybe you should try all of those things

[frigid umbra]

That's interesting

[rough dragon]

https://intellij-support.jetbrains.com/hc/en-us/articles/206544899-How-to-get-a-thread-dump-when-IDE-hangs-and-doesn-t-respond

the fact that they have such a support thread in their faq goes to show it is probably an usual problem lol, that's funny

[frigid umbra]

Are you fucking kidding me

Clearing caches didn't do anything at all

And I really do not want to downgrade

That's always ass

But whatever

Why the fuck does it have to re-download it, I literally updated like yesterday, it should still have it

God damnit

Fuck this shit, I am going to bed

[magic river]

Before you open the project disable all AI features

[frigid umbra]

I don't have them enabled

I have never had them enabled, I disable them always as soon as I download IJ

That includes anything in the "AI/Local ML" plugins section, so including Full Line Completion, AI-sorted suggestions, and similar

[hard mirage]

always fun to watch this strokkur guy lose it in paper #general

[indigo mesa]

what error does it show at the bottom

usually it says "Intellij IDEA froze, click for thread dump" or smth like that

[frigid umbra]

Shows nothing

[indigo mesa]

thats weird

did you go into the recovery whatever through toolbox?

[frigid umbra]

No

[lament patio]

IntelliJ after 5 minutes since you've invalidated caches and restarted

[frigid umbra]

Idk I will probably just open a ticket on the IJ issue tracker, provide my threadDump logs stuff, and hope they can just tell me a simple fix

Weird thing is that it is only happening when I am editing one specific test file

It hasn't happened with any of the other like 70 files in my project

[worthy geode]

huh, is native WSL support something new in IntelliJ or am I just slow?
I remember just weeks ago it used to work via the Remote Development feature and was kinda unstable.
Now just opened a WSL project again and it opens like a native Windows project. Can't find any changelog of that tho lol

[rough dragon]

if you have Ultimate, I know they improved WSL support in like 2025.1

https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/whatsnew/2025-1/

[worthy geode]

yeah I remember that. made it suck less, but it was still remote development

[sharp sentinel]

they improved it, immediately broke it, then didn't fix it again until 2026.1 🙂

[worthy geode]

but now I got this in the Remote Dev -> WSL dialogue. and it just works like if the project is located on Windows itself. very nice, but kinda surprising its not mentioned prominently somewhere

[rough dragon]

there's this in 2026.1

I assume it wasn't just dev containers

[sharp sentinel]

nah that WSL thing is since 2025.1

and the thing that was then immediately broken until 2026.1

i either filed or watched a tonne of bug reports in that system lol; it was extremely broken for the longest time

[worthy geode]

https://youtrack-production.pub.aws.intellij.net/issue/IJPL-222282/Native-mode-for-opening-WSL-projects-from-RD-Welcome-screen-all-IDEs-turn-on-by-default
apparently its this setting. But that issue suggesting it to be turned on by default is still open and I did not turn it on manually lol

[sharp sentinel]

if you had gateway installed iirc it didn’t auto convert

[worthy geode]

seems to work well with a Paper fork though. Which is like the only thing I use WSL for

[sharp sentinel]

once they fixed gradle not being able to access the jvm it got a lot better

[rough dragon]

it was implemented in 2026.1 so I assume they turned it on for you in 2026.1 lol

oh, it was only implemented in idea, the issue you linked is for all ides

https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IJPL-235210/

[worthy geode]

ah I see. bit confusing with both issues being in the same IntelliJ platform project lol

[rough dragon]

now that makes me wonder how far they're with isolated projects support

[worthy geode]

Feels like that would have been worth a mention in their 2026.1 update post though, its a nice feature

[rough dragon]

last time I tried it, it completely broke IJ

[worthy geode]

gradle isolated projects? isn't that still considered very experimental by gradle itself too?

[rough dragon]

it is, but they were very eager to implement support for it so I had hoped it would be good by now

[kind vapor]

I think using binary search to filter out the problematic plugin is harder in mc than other software like vscode, because how mc plugins manage libs, they may be independent plugins or nested, so you have to keep many plugins when using binary search

[wide chasm]

There should be some tool that analyses which plugins depend on each other and then tells you how to group them and which group to disable to avoid plugins failing due to dependency issues. Maybe such a tool already exists.

[sharp sentinel]

yeah we very often have people coming and blaming worldedit for stuff, but it’s actually just some plugin that disables itself when worldedit is removed

dependency graph aware binary search would be great tbh

tbh automated plugin binary search tool would be cool anyway

[potent fossil]

great idea

out of curiosity, is all the information required for this on disk (inside the plugin.yml?) 🤔

[sharp sentinel]

yes

or well, not exactly

it assumes plugins are marking it correctly

the plugins that do not list dependencies are usually the ones that cause us the most issues

[potent fossil]

yup that's what I was just thinking about. but i guess if a plugin misbehaves and doesn't declare it, there's not much anyone can do about it.

[sharp sentinel]

the problem is that the plugin they’re failing to declare a dependency on is the one that gets the blame

[wide chasm]

Can't prevent the issue entirely, but checking the (paper-)plugin.yml is better than nothing

[chilly night]

Hi

[potent fossil]

hi

[lament harbor]

hi

[sterile tinsel]

hi

[atomic obsidian]

hi

[vocal turret]

hi

[novel sonnet]

hi

[cunning raft]

stop

[frigid umbra]

Well, I updated to 2026.2 EAP, it still is happening, I have no idea what to do anymore, so I opened an issue on their issue tracker, with the hopes someone can just point out one stupidity of mine and this whole thing gets fixed in no time

[magic river]

The app froze, unless you wrote a plugin that has an infinite loop in it they broke something, even if there might be workarounds

[icy glade]

is it normal for me to be waiting ~ 1 year for a PR response

[hard mirage]

Prs tend to be a when they get to it thing. Ive had prs sit in queue for about just as long maybe slightly longer. From my understanding a lot of the team is busy with real life atm

[potent fossil]

did you discuss the idea for the PR here before you started working on it?

[hard mirage]

This also always helps ^

[icy glade]

yes

It was basically implied that I should make a PR for it

[icy glade]

yeah im aware its voluntary which is why im asking is it normal

[hard mirage]

It depends is unfortunately the answer

[icy glade]

depends on how important you are?

[timber sentinel]

the amount of prs we have is visible to everyone, the reality is that when a pr doesn't get updated for a while it sinks down to the bottom into obscurity

[icy glade]

sort

[timber sentinel]

okay

[hard mirage]

It more so depends on triage

I understand the frustration of waiting I've had to do plenty myself but I think politely bringing it up here or in #paper-dev and asking for feedback is probably enough.

[icy glade]

that sounds annoying for the team

139 awaitng review is quite large

[icy glade]

maybe i'll do this next year

[potent fossil]

i mean, no disrespect, but sounds like you're taking this personally and it's not personal

[timber sentinel]

no less annoying than this

[icy glade]

you're right i'll accept my fate at the feet of the maintaining overlords

[timber sentinel]

that's not what i'm saying at all

[icy glade]

you're not saying a lot of anything

[icy glade]

i was just wondering if i was doing something wrong or if i should leave things as they are and leave it be

[vernal moth]

We sadly don't have the capacity right now to deal with all the community contributions right now, and we know how frustrating that is for contributors

I am not aware of the PR you are referring to (nor do I work on paper itself), but most likely you did nothing wrong and it's just that nobody from the team had the chance to take a proper look yet

There is no clear ordering in which PRs are reviewed, which makes this even more frustrating

[icy glade]

i understand

[vernal moth]

I just don't have a good solution

[icy glade]

are PR's not even sorted by size?

[vernal moth]

Not really, no. I would guess you could best describe it as priority. The ones with a higher priority are the ones the team focuses on, but even that is really vague and not always true
Priority could mean that it fixes a bad bug or there is high demand for a feature

That's what I mean with I don't have a good solution

It's mostly a capacity issue, but finding knowledgeable, trustworthy people who would like to spent their free time helping to maintain paper, is hard

[warm anchor]

Most active maintainers are uni students

Some younger like the Ohio man before but yeah people eventually need to find a real job as reviewing Paper PR don’t pay rent

[tall hatch]

I think the obvious answer is paper needs to lobby for students to stay in school longer

[potent fossil]

i have a solution. paper should just start paying 100k usd/yr

[cunning raft]

most of our maintainers don't have access to laptops in preschool

[icy glade]

how do other large oss projects deal with this?

[warm anchor]

Soon we will have a new blood of Paper contributor who code exclusively on iPad. You just wait.

[icy glade]

i doubt this is an issue unique to paper

[hard mirage]

Promote me to maintainer ill go for my masters degree over graduating 🎓

[potent fossil]

vote for miles for maintainer

[warm anchor]

Looking across all open source communities. You’d be surprised how much of our modern internet is kept up by good wills and volunteer works.

[vernal moth]

For many: burn out.
For the ones that survive, it's often people hired by a company to work on the project, or the project founds a foundation and hires maintainers by big company donations

[tall hatch]

Paper has the disadvantage of not being something most people can do during work hours unlike a lot of OSS

[vernal moth]

OSS sustainability is a huge issue, for hobby stuff like Minecraft stuff, but especially for the stuff the would Internet depends on

[hard mirage]

Do you think my company will let me review paper prs while I have ai generate my scripts

Surely right

[tall hatch]

How could one possibly be unproductive with such a large token usage?

[vernal moth]

I mean, plenty big servers that depend on paper, some of them contribute code back, I assume that happend on company time

[tall hatch]

Yeah that’s why I said most

[vernal moth]

I so love that token maxing is a thing now, it summerizes so nicely how much bullshit this current LLM hypecycle is

[tall hatch]

But I assume there’s not too many of those compared to other industries

[warm anchor]

Professional looking-busy is now in another level.

[naive frigate]

paper is also not the kind of OSS project that a company would heftily fund tbh given the gray legality of the matter

[potent fossil]

one i become a millionaire i'll donate 5 usd recurring

[vernal moth]

I don't think that's part of it, especially since that company would most likely use paper in some form

[lilac comet]

@frigid umbra Yep, Nora is Frodolon certified

:3

[lilac comet]

Average student :P

[magic river]

Oh their PR adds a helper method for something you can already do with the API, it just makes a potentially common thing simpler

"get the block a button is attached to"

[frigid umbra]

I am making fish today

Specifically salmon

[magic river]

On the one hand that's a pretty simple PR but on the other hand it isn't fixing a bug or enabling new functionality so I could see how it gets pushed back when PR parties are happening

[lilac comet]

Expensive

[frigid umbra]

But tasty

[hallow moat]

https://youtu.be/lSVgeMoXJTs?t=26m43s

Loved this video, and the quote "A PR is a free puppy"

[naive frigate]

lol

that's great

[potent fossil]

just get claude to take care of the puppies. ez

[kind vapor]

just merge half prs and close the other half with the reason: ugly method name/not using America english/cosmic ray/closed due to the author don't reply in one nanosecond

[onyx cape]

https://fixupx.com/masahiroitosugi/status/2057716730043220332/en

糸杉柾宏＠『寝取り魔法使いの冒険』第１第３ 月...

📑 Translated from Japanese

This time, with the Google account ban, the issue that's taken the longest and still isn't resolved is Claude. It's set up to send an authentication code to your email for login (which is why I can't read it), and on top of that, it's probably linked to a phone number, so I have to unlink that, but when I contact support officially, I just get an automated AI reply, and moreover, the AI's responses keep flip-flopping, and today it straight-up said, "Log in with that email address and cancel the subscription yourself." Th-at's wh-y I c-an't do it! Everyone, if you've registered for Claude with a Gmail/Google account, be careful.

Original text
今回のGoogle垢BANで一番時間がかかっていて、しかもまだ解決していない問題は、Claude。
︀︀
︀︀ログインするのに認証コードをメールに送る仕様（だから読めないって）な上に、おそらく電話番号が紐づいているのでそれを解…

FixupX · May 22, 2026, 6:54 AM

this is so messed up

[kind vapor]

I only noticed the account name

[cunning raft]

if you get a Google account banned you deserve it

so rare you get banned unless it's for the worst shit

[stable whale]

Hi

[crude trellis]

Like sending photos of your child to a doctor. Which was automatically classified as CSAM and Google wouldn't reinstate the account even after the dad was cleared of any wrongdoing.
Or just a few days ago Google banned the account of railway.com leading to outages.

I'm sure that 99% of bans are justified, but let's not pretend that this 1% doesn't happen. And basically no corporation has any real support if you are that in that 1%.
I have way too much stuff linked to my Gmail, it would be a disaster if they banned me for some reason.

[cunning raft]

that first case is entirely acceptable

you shouldn't be sending that via Google

that should be sent via a medical platform

and railway didn't get their Google account banned. their gcp account got suspended because they were either doing cursed shit with the API or some bot banned them for traffic (which probably shouldn't be automatic if you're paying over 1M a year to Google lol)

my point still stands that getting a personal google.com account banned is so rare and 99.99999% of the time it does happen it's deserved

[mild rune]

I'm almost certain the Railway outage was probably due to them just ignoring complaints, since their routing layer is on GCP

[cunning raft]

yeah

me thinks too

[naive frigate]

literally this lol

[sage sinew]

Railway mentioned 🚨

But yeah wouldnt be surprised

Railway has had SOOOO MANY reliability issues

Like, Railway has good UX, and nothing of what makes a "cloud" a "cloud" lol

I know of many railway users (including me) that have ditched railway in the past weeks. They are way too unreliable.

Only thing I have there still is probably a dev DB

[frigid umbra]

Yay, 95% test coverage (lines)

I've never written such extensive unit tests before

This took so long I have completely forgotten what I wanted to do after I am done

[sage sinew]

what are ya using for testing?

[frigid umbra]

junit, lol

I don't think there is even anything apart from junit, or is there?

[golden gust]

Fairly sure that there is

[frigid umbra]

Well, probably is

[sage sinew]

there is

[frigid umbra]

But I have never heard of anyone using anything except junit

[magic river]

https://testng.org/

[sage sinew]

yes

one of them

there is another one too, but can't recall the name

are you using anything for code coverage? Like jacoco?

[frigid umbra]

No, just IntelliJ's own "Run with Coverage'" stuff atm

[sage sinew]

Ic

good enough for java

[frigid umbra]

I might introduce jacoco if I add that cool "A+ Test Coverage" embed on my readme

Idk how that actually works anyways

[sage sinew]

IF it were kotlin I'd have some suggestions xD

[frigid umbra]

You should know that I would never willingly write Kotlin

[sage sinew]

jacoco or the embedl?

[frigid umbra]

the embed thingy

I haven't looked it up yet

I've used jacoco before

[sage sinew]

you missing out

xD

[frigid umbra]

I know Kotlin, I am not missing out

It's a decision made with reason, not out of ignorance

[sage sinew]

Haven't ya heard? Everything at netflix uses Java and Kotlin

[frigid umbra]

Jesus, that sounds awful

[magic river]

I thought netflix used scala

[sage sinew]

nope

[magic river]

Wait that was twitter

[frigid umbra]

Everyone should switch to Rust

[sage sinew]

they use spring a ton

[frigid umbra]

Clearly the superior language in every scenario

[sage sinew]

funnily enough one of the devs said this was a very common comment and he explained why they didn't right afterwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucJTPda_zx0

[frigid umbra]

Yeah, probably similar reasons as to why "Let's rewrite the Linux kernel in Rust" is an awful idea

[sage sinew]

there is also a 2025 edition

[magic river]

https://rust-for-linux.com/ 😄

[crude trellis]

Ok, but that's not a rewrite.

[frigid umbra]

There's a great difference between writing new modules in Rust and outright rewriting existing code

[sage sinew]

actually he covers the whole "use rust" in the first minutes of it lmao

https://youtu.be/ucJTPda_zx0?t=36

[magic river]

afaik all of the useful rust in the kernel (not wrappers/bindings) has been rewrites

[sage sinew]

literally 36s in

[crude trellis]

Bun was recently rewritten from Zig to Rust. Took barely 2 weeks.

[magic river]

That's not really rust 😛

That's like c2rust but done by an LLM

[sage sinew]

vibe coded from Zig to rust*

[magic river]

It's full of unsafe and undefined behavior

[crude trellis]

Well, the original Zig code was also vibe-coded. 😉

[sage sinew]

tbf no real other option in that case, they will always be unsafe calls but yeah, just stupid overall

[magic river]

Not at first at least, it might have ended up that way toward the end

[sage sinew]

funnily enough netflix has an AI workflow now to migrate from spring 3 to 4

[magic river]

unsafe for binding to JSC and maybe some low level stuff you build wrappers around sure

Not 10,000 static mut variables

[sage sinew]

yeah....

I am against this rewrite anyways lol

just a dumb rewrite that most likely will introduce more issues than it solves

[magic river]

I'm all for having less zig in the world, it's kind of a pointless language

[candid jackal]

rust le slow

[magic river]

It's a "better" C but not better in ways that people using C care about

[sage sinew]

I honestly hate rust because of the rust community lol

just like I hate skript because of the skript community

[crude trellis]

I fail to see the problem though.
You "rewrite" using 10k unsafes and then you slowly remove them.

Normal get stuff working->polish it development. 🤷‍♂️

[sage sinew]

conclusion: skript and rust are the same

[cunning raft]

people seem to not understand that it was ported to rust not totally rewritten from the ground up with best rust practices in mind

[sage sinew]

exactly

[magic river]

Maybe but I don't think you can vibecode your way out of that hole, it needs humans actually thinking about how to handle stuff

[crude trellis]

Rust has a community? I had no idea! 😱

Just close Reddit and any project's "community" stops becoming a problem.

[frigid umbra]

I've had fairly alright experiences with the rust community. They are opinionated imo, but they were mostly friendly when I was asking my stupid questions

[cunning raft]

who the fuck cares if there's unsafes I just want bun not to segfault everyday

[magic river]

Instead they have LLMs reading github issues and using them to generate PRs that other LLMs review

[sage sinew]

wish that was true for skript kiddies lol

[frigid umbra]

I don't think I have ever had bun segfault on me, but I am also not using it every single day extensively

[magic river]

Someone needs to actually design an architecture for reducing the usage of unsafe, all the LLMs were doing is papering over the undefined behavior usages and moving things around

[sage sinew]

Problem right now is that there is no real bun alternative... if there were, I'd most likely switch lol (specially since antrophic owns bun now)

[frigid umbra]

Let's rewrite PNPM in rust

[magic river]

If the LLMs are your juniors you need a lead and/or architect to tell them how to do it but so far they're just poking at shit randomly

[sage sinew]

well pnpm isn't a runtime like bun

[cunning raft]

bun has a huge test suite, and if the tests pass I think it's mostly okay

[sage sinew]

were said tests generated by an LLM by any chance?

[cunning raft]

on top of nodes test suite which it's pass rate hasn't decreased with the rust rewrite

[cunning raft]

tests and the core part of buns code is pre ai

I'm sure there are new ai tests

[crude trellis]

But humans already done all the necessary thinking/design/etc how to handle stuff. The code is working and well tested.

AIs have problems with high-level engineering, not relatively simple rewrite this piece of code into proper rust and remove unsafes.

Take this shitty and working code and polish it is basically a perfect work for an LLM.

Let's have humans do what we do best and just delegate the busywork to automation.

[magic river]

Ah, so you're a junior dev 😄

[crude trellis]

Nowadays I don't even qualify as a dev at all.
Favorite programming language: markdown. 😎

[magic river]

You can't just remove unsafe bit by bit, someone needs to design whole new abstractions and plan how to do major architectural overhauls to the code

[crude trellis]

Oh no, designing abstractions and subsystems! Our plan is foiled! 😱

[ancient bolt]

removing unsafe in rust is silly

unsafe isn't a bad word

sometimes you need to do a specific thing a specific way, and that means you have to cross the boundaries of safe rust. That's not bad, you just have to be more careful and ensure safety in other ways

[magic river]

You want as little unsafe as you can get away with because every unsafe is a potential source of undefined behavior

[ancient bolt]

it's simply impossible to do low-level systems level things without unsafe

[upper flicker]

it sounds like getting rid of unsafe in rust could be … unsafe

[ancient bolt]

I'm not saying all of your code should be unsafe. And the standard library provides many safe wrappers around common unsafe tasks

But writing bad code just so you don't have the unsafe keyword is bad

[magic river]

I think most of the code in bun is unsafe 😛

And I would absolutely give up a couple percent of performance to avoid usage of unsafe unless it was a hotspot and the performance really mattered

Even then unless I could build a safe wrapper around the thing to avoid sprinkling unsafe everywhere I'd probably still take the perf hit

[twin lagoon]

jroy is undefined behaviour

[cunning raft]

I think most of the code in bun is unsafe 😛
be so fr you haven't looked at any of the bun code you're just going off of hackernews/reddit/twitter comments.

not that i've looked at the code but who cares if it works. there literally could not be any more undefined behavior that what already existed in bun

[sage sinew]

thought that was z750

god I lost track of who is who now

[ancient bolt]

eh you're really missing my point if you're talking about a couple percentage points of performance

[graceful kelp]

mayn its jus using my pfp on the search but correct img on the plugin page TwT i hope it updates soon

[ancient bolt]

I'm not over here advocating you sprinkle unsafe around everywhere or that you should use unsafe directly in your code without wrappers, writing good code is important, unsafe or not

[frigid umbra]

@ancient bolt how dare you suggest me to make every single one of my methods unsafe

Literally awful suggestions

[upper flicker]

pretty unreasonable tbh

[frigid umbra]

Can we remove DenWav's coding privilege for suggesting everything should be unsafe?

[upper flicker]

not all the advisors can be as reasonable as I am

[naive frigate]

ohh

that's what mbax was afraid of

[true canyon]

oh no

[west hemlock]

@vernal moth its crumbling down
https://x.com/hd_nvim/status/2057843081441903062?s=20

Herrington Darkholme (@hd_nvim)

yt-dlp plans to drop support for Bun
Reason: it is vibe-coded

X · May 22, 2026, 3:16 PM

First drop of bun

[worthy geode]

that seems alarmist at least lol

maybe wait if its actually measurable worse than before, before making decisions like this

[west hemlock]

The council has decided

[worthy geode]

okay its especially stupid because yt-dlp itself does not even use bun? lol

its just one of the JS runtimes you can use with it, completely up to users to use it or not. so just a political decision

[west hemlock]

They probably get spammed with issues related to Bun

Who knows

[cunning raft]

no they didn't

the rust rewrite isn't out yet

larp larp sahur

[west hemlock]

:[

[kind vapor]

What is bun

[west hemlock]

I'll count them

[worthy geode]

so now if I have bun installed locally and want to use yt-dlp with JS, I need to install another JS runtime just because they don't like that. thats just silly

well they include Deno. Which is also partially vibe-coded so, yeaaah

[ashen cliff]

They should just ship with a full install of Chrome.

[gray pawn]

the comments under the post are braindead

[sage sinew]

most likely just dropping support out of spite.

Understandable lol

some people just don't want to have to deal with ai slop

[upper flicker]

I don’t think they were happy they had to add a js runtime in the first place

narrowing it down to one option seems reasonable enough

idk yt-dlp works great so I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt

[worthy geode]

would make a lot more sense imo if bun was the default

but like, its fully opt-in already anyways?

[magic river]

Should have just used quickjs 😛

[frigid umbra]

It works! I can now generate this entire Java file

From this code

That's a 27 line class created from 35 lines of AST builder

Which I think is a great quote

The fun part is also that the javadoc generation depends on the current language level. I am currently compiling everything against Java 21, but if I switch it to Java 25, it uses markdown JD!

[sage sinew]

whats the use case?

[frigid umbra]

Generating Java code

[gray pawn]

annotation processors

[magic river]

They're trying again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfQHy4mVcBo

btw if you have any kind of investments you might want to check in on them and ensure they won't automatically buy SpaceX stock....

[sage sinew]

I do have some SNP500 so ig spacex will be bought xD

[magic river]

They've got it set up so it'll enter the top lists various funds automatically buy before it's had time for the price to settle

And that automatic buying will hold the price higher

[worthy geode]

hey they actually launched this time

[sage sinew]

yeah

and didnt go boom

[magic river]

booster go boom

[sage sinew]

rip booster

[magic river]

starship is about to go boom I think

[sage sinew]

hmm

for now looks fine

was there a confirmation of booster go boom?

they didnt say much

or I missed it

[magic river]

Apparently it's in their safe zone so they're not blowing it up, just letting it fall?

[sage sinew]

yeah

can see it in camera

its still alive

[magic river]

It's just freely tumbling

[sage sinew]

wonder why so many raptors failed

[magic river]

First launch of the v3 engines

[sage sinew]

well yes

my question still stands though xD

wonder if it was because of temps or smt

idk

think booster went kaboom

[magic river]

booster bellyflopped

[sage sinew]

F

[magic river]

I guess they relit the engines just before splashdown just to see what would happen since it was low enough it couldn't fly away

[sage sinew]

yeah

getting some extra telemetry

[magic river]

It appears to be leaking

[ashen cliff]

They are extra happy, even when it blows up.

[sage sinew]

W payload

Let there be light 🪄

[frigid umbra]

Now I've got a readme too! Happy days https://github.com/Strokkur424/jap-util

And it's time for me to go to bed, since it's 1am and I need to wake up at 7am tomorrow

[sage sinew]

W selfie

[craggy surge]

when rewrite of strokkcommands to use this?

[magic river]

hmm, sparks on reentry means it's ablating, right?

Hopefully just tiles but still, I think they were wanting them to not actually do that since they want it to be available for rapid reuse and having to replace tiles would slow that down

Looks like one of their test tiles fell off, guess that glue was no good

[frigid umbra]

That's actually the planned use case!

[patent current]

Strokkur's command library

[wanton cradle]

hello

[potent fossil]

i totally thought this had something to do with japan or the japanese language.

[worthy geode]

yeah, needs an anime mascot

[upper flicker]

@warm anchor

[chilly night]

Hi

[kind vapor]

@eternal belfry not the place for advertising

[eternal belfry]

Wait, do you think there is a good way i can find some co-devs?
My excuses btw

[kind vapor]

#community-guilds helpchat

[eternal belfry]

thx

[drowsy nebula]

Hey , any staff here to help me?

i have 3 servers Survival server Hub server And velocity server and when i start first hub then survival then velocity and when i enter with the localhost:25565 it just says in velocity console The connexxion was unexpectly closed

something like that

[peak ginkgo]

You can ask for help in #velocity-help! This channels more for hanging out.

[drowsy nebula]

Thank you

[olive glacier]

hey a bit of topic, whats some good economy mods i can add to my server?

[graceful kelp]

i assume you mean plugins, imo banco, TNE, and ecobits are all very good eco plugins personally i like banco as i prefer item based eco but ive admined a server with ecobits and its really good too (not too complex, and has multi currency support), TNE is also great but ive not had too smooth of an experience with it

[vernal moth]

Kekw

It's not even released

[olive glacier]

hey uh

[vernal moth]

This is all just fear mongering

[olive glacier]

whats going on with the paper servers?

https://papermc.io/downloads/paper

it dosent work :p

[vernal moth]

They go brrrrrr

[vernal moth]

What do you mean?

[olive glacier]

you cant download shi 😭

[vernal moth]

Working fine for me

Are you on a VPN or something? Seems like cloudflare hates you

[olive glacier]

oh wait

lemme try without nord

alr that fixed it

[vernal moth]

Sadly we can't do much about these things

[olive glacier]

all good, quick question though do you know how i can reinstall a server.jar file?

nvm fixed!

[potent abyss]

hi

[olive glacier]

do any of these have a servershop, if not do you have any that do?

(Not an auction house)

[graceful kelp]

no those are economy providers for a shop plugin you need to use something like EconomyShopGUI, Roadside Shops (player shops), Shopkeepers, ShopGUI+ etc

[olive glacier]

ty! whats your favourite?

[graceful kelp]

i'd say ShopGUI+ and EconomyShopGUI are both good enough, if you wantt to customize alot then you should use a gui plugin to design it yourself (e.g better gui)

[olive glacier]

so would banco and economyshopgui work?

[graceful kelp]

none actually i coded my own for my server last time i used one, but the one i did use before that i dont remmeber its name and i think it got discontinued, before that i used to use EconomyShopGUI

[graceful kelp]

yeah they should work

[kind vapor]

I exchange items with items with my players

usually I use shells

[olive glacier]

thanks

[graceful kelp]

best gameplay decision xD

[olive glacier]

im hosting a server, i used to use a fabric server but a big dupe was discovered and 1qd was distrubited

[olive glacier]

(Bal top was 200m btw)

[olive glacier]

:p

ohh i need vault

im an idiot 😭

[olive glacier]

quick question

nvm

[chilly night]

My Brain Just Discovered Something Cool

[potent fossil]

ha ha ha ha bro how do i get to be as funny as you?

[chilly night]

At Least I Have UNO Reverse Card
(But GitHub NEVER Lie You)

I'm Not Allow Anyone To Shock When You Click At The Spoiler

[true canyon]

Pushing piles of binaries to git? That's a choice.....

[chilly night]

[true canyon]

That's enough shitposting about your unsupported server for today.

[chilly night]

Wait... I Did Not Asking For Support... Stop Randomly Timeout Me

[vernal moth]

Nobody did timeout you