waterfall-help

[modern sinew]

Its all traced back to the proxy as far as I know

Im going to go onto the github and see if I can find anything

[errant pivot]

how to use hex colors in motd?

[craggy trout]

Waterfall does not support that, use a plugin with Hexadecimal colour support.

[errant pivot]

yea just gonna ignore... tried 3 diff plugins and diff ways to edit and many other things.. its just not worth spending hours figuring out... welp ty anyway

[craggy trout]

Well is so easy to do

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/➥-pixel-motd-1-8-1-19.37177/

Use this plugin

https://rgb.birdflop.com/

That web is for hex

[errant pivot]

Ty that helped it

[reef surge]

Is Waterfall A Plugin For Paper?

Does Paper plugins work with Waterfall then?

[gritty umbra]

No

[craggy trout]

Waterfall sync your paper servers to have multi-games

[left hedge]

Question:

I have bungeecord1 and bungeecord2

On Bungeecord 1 are 2 players online and has server 123.123.123:25565 and 123.123.123:25565
Bungeecord 2 have the same 2 servers 123.123.123:25565 and 123.123.123:25565.

But the problem is, Bungeecord1 will not show the players on bungeecord2 and otherwise its the same,
Is there a way to connect the 2 playercounts with each other

[reef fulcrum]

use a plugin which syncs that data between them

i.e. back in the day there was redisbungee

[left hedge]

Is there nothing else then Redis?

[reef fulcrum]

probably there is

[modern sinew]

.

[neon stratus]

Hey, after I updated geyser, floodgate, and waterfall, I’m noticing that a lot of chat messages sent from bungeecord are showing in players actionbar, not chat… I asked in geysers discord, and they said they didn’t know of anything, so is it a known waterfall thing?

Just saw this when searching

How did you resolve this?

O wait is it a viaversion thing

[final trail]

i'm on latest waterfall build from papermc.io/downloads

can someone tell me (or test too)
using config.yml's priority option, we set only 1 server let's say "lobby" to be in that list, and we declare multiple servers under servers option

when the only server from priorities is not available - will waterfall proxy push me to any other server that is available? is this normal behaviour? I think it should say "the server is unavailable" (whatever the default message is)

[stark lagoon]

Hello i have werid question 😄 so in Default config bungecord, you have already set group as admin to name "md_5", so my question is, if someone will set nick for them as md_5 they will have access to admin commands?

[final trail]

i just now tested with empty proxy server (no plugins)

[reef fulcrum]

No, the proxy will just boot you

[final trail]

yes

change that

[reef fulcrum]

and if in offline mode, yes, somebody could use md_5's name there

really suggest using a proper perm plugin

[stark lagoon]

Thanks! 😄

[final trail]

if anybody knows if this is normal or not (or what should happen / test it and let me know of results), please do @ me when you're replying
thanks in advance

[final trail]

if anybody else has similar issue, solution:
set force_default_server to true

[reef surge]

So this works with paper?

[surreal stream]

yes, plugins not

waterfall is also not a plugin for a paper server

[craggy trout]

As i said you,waterfall is a proxy

[hazy sun]

What is the best firewall script for a new bungeecord server?

[rain dome]

can I connect servers that are not on the same machine?

with waterfall?

[unkempt girder]

Yes, you gotta use their normal IP

[rain dome]

will it have a effect on the ping

if they are in the same datacenter?

[unkempt girder]

It could, but hard to say, you gotta try

[rain dome]

I see

do I have to make some outbound rules?

on the bungee server?

[unkempt girder]

Not sure, I don't use bungee based proxy

[rain dome]

which proxy do u use to link servers?

[unkempt girder]

Velocity

[rain dome]

ohh

is it better?

like for performance?

and can I link external servers in velocity?

[unkempt girder]

I would say it's much better, but it has less available plugins overall

[craggy trout]

"much" better wym

Waterfall splitted into multiple instances with good plugins, would work not that "bad" compared to velocity.

[marble kelp]

I mean, a more complex setup with more resources is of course comparable

but that's not really what one usually compares

[craggy trout]

Well, velocity for now only can run in one instance

Imagine 90k players on a single instance

[marble kelp]

"velocity for now only can run in one instance" same as bungee-based proxies?

it's basically literally the same software type offering (almost) the same features.

[craggy trout]

https://github.com/ProxioDev/RedisBungee

[marble kelp]

that's not built-in and a third party plugin

and the same functionality can be implemented in a velocity plugin

[craggy trout]

I mean, velocity does not have any external software for now.

[unkempt girder]

RedisVelocity/Chocolate?

[marble kelp]

that's a bold claim, lol

also the amount of data RedisBungee syncs is a joke. it is: Player count. Done, it does nothing more out of the box.

[craggy trout]

bruh

[marble kelp]

anything else requires custom software

Chocolate is a pretty unfortunate naming choice btw. lol.

[unkempt girder]

True

[craggy trout]

[unkempt girder]

https://github.com/UltimisMC/RedisVelocity
https://github.com/GiansCode/Chocolate

[marble kelp]

I really need to implement that on top of my own connector plugin so I can point to that lol

[modern sinew]

Follow up to my lag issues. Here is my spark report: https://spark.lucko.me/1PqQjDay0c

[half snow]

@craggy trout

[reef surge]

Do I need both Bungee and waterfall?

[reef fulcrum]

no

[stuck delta]

Anything i can change in tablist?

[craggy trout]

No, Waterfall is based on BungeeCord improving overall it.

[reef surge]

So only waterfall?

[craggy trout]

Yes, that's why is a fork

[dapper quail]

What is this?

[reef fulcrum]

it's telling you that the event took a long time to process

[dapper quail]

Does that mean lag?

[modern sinew]

Bump

[reef fulcrum]

Nothing really interesting in there

[modern sinew]

Oh

[mild portal]

Where i can where can i ask for help on papermc-1.16 ?

[reef fulcrum]

maaaaybe try without tab, but, I really doubt that that's the issue

nah, it shan't be

[dapper quail]

nowhere, you won't get support for outdated versions

it even says it when you try to download legacy versions

[junior sequoia]

i noticed that waterfall has a 'anti fastchat' system that i cant flood a command when i join a server

there is a way i disable it?

[reef fulcrum]

it's either exposed in the config file or its not

[junior sequoia]

waterfall almost have none config options

on waterfall.yml

[reef fulcrum]

see the main config file

[junior sequoia]

it's not on config.yml because it's a waterfall feature

[reef fulcrum]

what's the kick message?

[junior sequoia]

it's not a kick

i type a command fast in chat

but the command it's not registered

i need to wait like 3-4 seconds to use a command

every time i join the server

[reef fulcrum]

No idea, I don't see any throttling logic in waterfall for that

[modern sinew]

Is there a way to make it so waterfall chat messages show up in chat

[glacial wave]

Can anyone tell me what this message means?
Join with 1.19 on a WaterFall with Paper Server

[reef fulcrum]

something mangled a packet

[craggy trout]

MiniMotd is so weigth plugin for a simple motd, use native that does not use events or cleanmotd.

[grand tendon]

Does anyone know if it’s possible to link 2 waterfall servers together in a way that allows you to switch between them mid game?

[craggy trout]

You can use RedisBungee to cross-data between your proxys.

[grand tendon]

so it can allow players to switch proxys mid-game?

[stuck delta]

Anything i can change in GLOBAL_PING?

[dapper quail]

Okay thanks

[craggy trout]

Well, yes you can.

[past vortex]

My waterfall got attacked 300k times within a minute.
Is there anything I can do about it @@

[craggy trout]

Offline mode?

If you use online mode just have a good host with proper bandwich & firewall system, if is online mode just use an anti-bot software, i can recmmend some some tbh

[craggy trout]

They still fucking your network lmao?

[past vortex]

yeah : /

[craggy trout]

Probably spam killed your cpu

[past vortex]

we're using shield

[craggy trout]

Shield?

Or Tcpshield

[past vortex]

https://mcshield.com/

[craggy trout]

That's ass for bot-protection

Cloudfare won't detect legit traffic called such like bots

I don't know why the fuck they say FOR MC if they don't have nothing more related for minecraft, a simple l7 legit spam attack would crash your instance

[stuck delta]

Someone spam ping in your server probably

[solar cipher]

what is the lowest version fo java for waterfall

and do we know around how much longer waterfall is planned to be maintained? I recall plans being published to eventually discontinue it in favor of velocity

[reef fulcrum]

8, but if I wasn't dead it would probs be newer

and theres no real timeframe set, shamefully I still use it for the server I do stuff for

[solar cipher]

alright good to know

thanks

[craggy trout]

🥵

[craggy trout]

Any ways if paper stops maintaining Waterfall, lot of people would update upstream and give good prs and that stuff

[solar cipher]

id like to see you try to get a pr into bungee

they run that like fort knox

I've only been developing for a year and I have firsthand experience

[craggy trout]

Did

[solar cipher]

what was it

[craggy trout]

well i meant by maintaning waterfall

[solar cipher]

nah nah nah

[craggy trout]

simple bump

[solar cipher]

yeah nah nah nah

[craggy trout]

I know that upstream sucks

md_5 likes

{

}

XD

But what can i say, im much experiencied on Waterfall/related

[reef fulcrum]

Bungee is pretty much in a mir'd form of maintanence mode where the API is missing things for things a few big plugins do, and so they rely on hacky implementation detail to pull it off

My inclination to write API for some of that stuff is limited because people are still bound to internals on bungee and pretty much anything that changes internals is likely to break a few plugins, etc

"don't return raw json in the scoreboard API" broke a few plugins and eventually had to be reverted as plugin authors prefered to just support bungee as opposed to supporting that

adding support for disabling entity metadata rewriting probs spent like a few weeks of effort tryna get to the point where it was reasonably safe and wouldn't be borked by random plugins, etc

[lunar parcel]

how do i setup geysermc on waterfall? everytime i try it does not let me connect.

[grand tendon]

https://ci.opencollab.dev/job/GeyserMC/job/Geyser/job/master/ download the correct jar from this link and put it in your plugins folder

[grand tendon]

Then make sure you enter the correct port when joining from a bedrock client (you can configure the bedrock port in geyser's Config file)

[lunar parcel]

can i make the port any port i want?

i tried to use the clone-remote-port flag and i still couldnt connect

[grand tendon]

My proxy's port is 25565, so I just changed the port in geyser to be the same

When you try to connect, what happens?

[craggy trout]

I mean, it will not work because bedrock handles UDP traffic, and your Waterfall proxy works TCP, create a subdomain named "bedrock.yournetwork.com with default Geyser port"

[grand tendon]

Does anyone know why even after I set Ip_forward to true, I keep getting the "If you wish to use IP forwarding, please enable it in your BungeeCord config as well!" message?

[craggy trout]

Probably you forgot to enable on spigot.yml "bungeecord: true"

[grand tendon]

nope I did that

Any idea what could be the problem?

[barren wind]

Say, I have a queue server and a survival server. At one point the survival server crashes, how can players be sent to the queue server instead of getting kicked from the proxy completely?

[fair ermine]

How was Waterfall given it’s name?

[craggy trout]

Well i don't really know but is a name

[craggy trout]

You will need a plugin for that, like ServerRedirect

[barren wind]

Is there a way to show the player count of a specific server of my network in the server list instead of the player count of the whole network?

[stuck delta]

Someone help

[stuck delta]

Yes, using placeholder api

%bungee_<server_name>

%bungee_total% for showing all player on proxy

[barren wind]

How do I show that on the server list, though?

[stuck delta]

Server list?, in the chat or in scoreboard?

[reef fulcrum]

that's what ping passthrough is for

[barren wind]

thank you

[barren wind]

but I don't want the stats of the force default server, isn't there a way to get the player count of an other server?

[reef fulcrum]

you have to ping it

I mean, the joining/pinging logic uses the same config, etc

if you want any form of customisation of that, generally, "use a plugin"

[proper walrus]

plz help

[dusk perch]

@proper walrus send the whole config

[proper walrus]

hm ok

[dusk perch]

also don't go around asking for help, just wait

[tulip surge]

config_1.yml by @proper walrus: https://paste.gg/becbeefc2eca41f2b96755030fe2437e

[proper walrus]

ye am sorry

[proper walrus]

should i paste this?

[dusk perch]

no

[proper walrus]

then

[dusk perch]

You don't have survival defined

[proper walrus]

ok

so wht to do

[dusk perch]

You need to define survival how lobby was yml survival: address: s1.xitenodes.xyz:25658 motd: " &b&lEliteMC &6&l[1.8-1.18] &2&l#1 Cracked Server&r\n &a&lBedwars\ \ &f&l| &d&lKnockBackFFA &f&l| &e&lSurvival " restricted: false

Except you need to change the address to fit your survival server

Quite self explanatory if you simply read the error.

[proper walrus]

ye i did

check my config

plz help

what i have to do

the sevrer got runne

and i am connected to lobby

but when i am click onmy survival npc i cant join

survival

[dry hollow]

survival is not a member of servers

[proper walrus]

so wht i have to do

plz tell

[dry hollow]

  lobby:
    <...>
  survival:
    <...>

[proper walrus]

oo k

ok?

[dry hollow]

add 2 spaces in front of survival

[proper walrus]

2 k

[dry hollow]

in YAML tabs are used for hierarchy

[proper walrus]

Ye all sone

Thank you guys working goof

good

Thank you Very much

[pallid quarry]

why is this happening 04:28:46 INFO]: CONSOLE executed command: /glist [04:28:46 INFO]: [amps2] (0): [04:28:46 INFO]: [avatar] (0): [04:28:46 INFO]: [test] (0): [04:28:46 INFO]: [smp5] (0): [04:28:46 INFO]: [nor] (0): [04:28:46 INFO]: [smp3] (0): [04:28:46 INFO]: [amp] (0): [04:28:46 INFO]: [ian] (2): [V]minster586, [V]minster586 [04:28:46 INFO]: [smp4] (0): [04:28:46 INFO]: [earth] (0): [04:28:46 INFO]: [hub] (5): [V]minster586, [V]minster586, [V]minster586, [V]minster586, [V]minster586 [04:28:46 INFO]: [oz] (0):

and i am not even on

[reef fulcrum]

looooooooong standing bungeecord issue

[pallid quarry]

any way to fix it

[reef fulcrum]

atm, no

[pallid quarry]

it did not do that before i updated to 1.19

[reef fulcrum]

nothing changed in 1.19 relevant to that

[pallid quarry]

is that a pad thing

bad

[reef fulcrum]

oh, wait, no, the issue I was thinking of was resolved time ago unless it's a plugin borking with stuff

[pallid quarry]

well idk i could remove eatch plugin and see what happens

[placid elm]

Is it possible to change the motd that displays when a forced host is offline?

[earnest sundial]

is there a permission for force_default_server?
i would like to lock jailed players into lobby only

[analog vector]

Can i ask, how now commands for waterfall works? i mean like /server etc..

Cuze im getting this

[fathom jetty]

Is /server auth even a vanilla minecraft command?

[tidal musk]

are you joining through waterfall?

[analog vector]

ye sure

[analog vector]

it's bungee command so

and i guess if i have no permission for this, i will get "you have no perms" message or smth like that

[tidal musk]

do you have the module enabled? I believe it has to be in the modules folder or smth

[analog vector]

well

i think i found problem

can i install them manually somehow?

Found it.. Thanks for help

[placid elm]

No but you can use something like litebans with mysql to ban them from every server except the lobby

[placid elm]

is it possible to change this message for forced hosts cause it looks really weird

[craggy trout]

Modules ig

[craggy trout]

That is not Waterfall log, is some of your plugins like bungeeguard ipwhitelist or that type of plugins, or just a motd

[placid elm]

it is deffinetly part of waterfall

[reef fulcrum]

Use a plugin

[mortal lintel]

Hello guys. I'm currently facing a issue where proxy messages does not get sent to chat but to the hotbar message. How can I change this?

[reef fulcrum]

pure guess, use latest via dev builds.

[halcyon zealot]

faced this issue once too, updating via to the latest dev build fixed it

[stuck delta]

Hey

Max player in sub server can be ignored by max player in proxy?

[thorny ridge]

There's an error popping up for Bungee/Waterfall sided command aliasing plugins [as well as some others] on 1.19, "Cannot spoof chat on this client version". I'm assuming implemented in Bungee as a response to the annoying Microsoft chat-reporting thing.

Are there any plans to create a workaround to solve this with Waterfall? As it stands, there's no other way/solution to do this i.e. Alias both proxy & server sided commands, and have those commands fully registered, all from the proxy alone. At the very least no other way to do it well.

[tame surge]

Im getting this issue for one player [ip redacted] <-> InitialHandler - could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(10) + length(1) exceeds writerIndex(10): PooledSlicedByteBuf(ridx: 10, widx: 10, cap: 10/10, unwrapped: PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 248, widx: 1067, cap: 2048)) they're on a vanilla client and everyone else can join just fine. Running waterfall 1.19 build 498 and I just have luckperms

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, if the server requires a signed command thingy theres nothing we can do

Like, maybe for unsigned stuff but, my interest in mopping up waterfall these days with upstream being stale is minimal

[tame surge]

whats "signed command thingy", its wierd because it only affects one player and still happens without plugins

Also do you think velosity is a better proxy

[reef fulcrum]

"cannot spoof chat" means that something called the API method to try to send chat to the player

[tame surge]

ohh you were talking to the guy above me

lmao sorry

[reef fulcrum]

your issue is that something mangled a packet

[tame surge]

yah kk

thanks cat

[reef fulcrum]

-Dwaterfall.packet-decode-logging=true - can potentially give a bit more info, but, stuff like that is generally a bit of an arse

[tame surge]

ahh alright! thanks

[thorny ridge]

Do you know if there's a reliable alternative to ProxiedPlayer#chat() ?

[reef fulcrum]

plugin messaging

[stuck delta]

Can someone help me, when i try connect to server, that server what i try to join send me to different server

The server when i try to join is online

[eternal fulcrum]

what java version for waterfall 1.19

[placid elm]

Java 17

[hazy sparrow]

thanks, ended up having to go with that. Wasn't that bad to do, ended up wasting more time trying to find ways not to do that.

[autumn parrot]

players cant see each other on the server

[craggy trout]

Seems your plugin fact

Waterfall does not hide any play by default.

[autumn parrot]

only viaversions is installed

[craggy trout]

Well, ensure viaversion is on dev-version.

[autumn parrot]

dev version?

where to get that?

[craggy trout]

On viaversion ci

[autumn parrot]

link

[craggy trout]

https://tenor.com/view/try-it-and-see-give-it-a-try-try-try-and-see-try-it-yourself-gif-24095805

[autumn parrot]

Seriusly

[craggy trout]

Well yes, is your server not mine search your stuff, or search on discord logs ig

[autumn parrot]

immer muss man alles selber machen

[craggy trout]

oh yeah, thanks i did understand really you

[stuck delta]

How you get via version

If you don't know where the link?

[autumn parrot]

i alredy found it

still cant see other players

[stuck delta]

Try remove the via version plugin

[autumn parrot]

ok

[craggy trout]

[high widget]

How can I make it so that if one server goes down you get sent to another one?

[ripe wind]

Is it possible to join a Vanilla server from a Paper server using Waterfall?

[placid elm]

Plug-in

There’s a few of them

[placid elm]

Yes just make the vanilla server online mode = false (make sure you have a firewall setup)

[quaint mirage]

Guys, Im having a problem, Im importing a Bukkit class in my Bungee project but not using it on bungee (obviously) but its breaking the plugin even though.

Anyone knows how to solve it? I need to import a Bukkit class, have no choice at the moment

[reef fulcrum]

refactor and don't import the Bukkit class in a manner which can cause issues

i.e. ideally properly module your project so that you don't have bukkit and bungee refs in the same space

[quaint mirage]

for exemple, Im using redis pubsub and when I receive a message, IF the server is BUKKIT, I call an custom event

What ur saying is that, Ill need two classes for managing pubsub, one for bukkit e one for bungee?

[reef fulcrum]

You'll need two classes for dispatching the events

OR

to design your class in a way which the JVM is happy with classes being missing

[quaint mirage]

any clue how to do that?

[reef fulcrum]

you're on your own with that mess

the requirements for that change between JVM implementations

generally, don't have the class imported, fully depend on it, make sure that they can't "cross paths"

or, really, just design it properly

[quaint mirage]

sounds better 😂

thank you.

[reef fulcrum]

basically, have 3 modules, two for the different platforms, and another which shares the common logic between the two

(that will give you a jar for each platform but it's not too hard to combine both those jars into a singular one for a universal jar)

[quaint mirage]

actually I did that, but even with separated classes bungee warn me of a bukkit import...

oh, you mean 3 projects

get it

[frail cedar]

proxy wont let connect player that has this nick: dan9017
and he gets this: internal exception: net.minecraft.resourceLocationException: non (a-z0-9/._-) character in path of location: legacy::fmlhs

any idea?

[reef fulcrum]

forge + via do not work together well

[hearty patrol]

Is there any way to have it so that Bungee keeps the connection to a server alive after a player disconnects long enough to send a command through pluginmessaging?

Or alternatively, a way to keep each spigot server connected as long as there is at least one player on the network.

[reef fulcrum]

if you need reliable connections like that, just use a message broker

[mortal lintel]

Hey guys im having issues where bungeecord messages doesn't get sent to player chat but it gets sent to the players hotbar message. How can I change this?

[reef fulcrum]

generally down to protocol hacks like via

[mortal lintel]

Yeah. Thanks for replying.

[stuck delta]

Hmm by default of waterfall that can, if i remember it

[pine knoll]

I have a hub and survival server and that when you connect to the Waterfall server, it puts you on the survival server even though the hub has a higher priority. And when you check hub console, it says to enable IP forwarding but you already have it enabled on Waterfall config.
anybody help

[reef fulcrum]

work out why the server is failing to deal with the ip forwarding

generally means that something is screwing with it

[pine knoll]

oh

like what

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, generally plugins

hard to say what

The thing just looks for some information in the handshake packet, so anything messing with that could cause issues

[pine knoll]

hmm

then what should i do

cause i dont have anything installed

its a new

server

[reef fulcrum]

check plugins on the proxy maybe

double check that ip forwarding is setup properly

make sure that you're using the vanilla client

otherwise, no idea

something is mangling the handshake

[pine knoll]

yeah thing thing is one of them works and the other dosent

):

[placid elm]

Is ip forwarding enabled on the server in spigot.yml?

[pine knoll]

Idk

[placid elm]

Enable it

[pine knoll]

I’m not on my pc rn

[placid elm]

In spigot.yml

[pine knoll]

Ok I’ll try

[pine knoll]

What line

[placid elm]

Not sure, it’s there somewhere

ctrl+f

[pine knoll]

I’m not on my pc

That’s why

Lol

I will get on real quick

If that doesn’t work):<

[lilac creek]

does this work with forge servers?

[placid elm]

Yes

@lilac creek are your servers on the same machine?

[lilac creek]

yep

[placid elm]

alright so all you should have to do is make your forge server offline mode

But only port forward your waterfall proxy

In the waterfall config just use localhost for your backend servers

That should make it work with forge since there is no ip whitelist plug-in

[tidal musk]

is there any way to make 1 server cracked and 1 premium?

[autumn parrot]

sorry these ppl here dont give support to cracked servers xd

[tidal musk]

tbh my main focus is premium

[autumn parrot]

tbh i also want to make a server like that

so that online players dont need to login

but at the end my server is now premium

[tidal musk]

i wanna make a server where there is cracked & premium smp

[autumn parrot]

wich means less players

[autumn parrot]

oh

i guess use velocity for it?

may work idk

[tidal musk]

#velocity-help already tried

[autumn parrot]

oh

[pine knoll]

I still need help with water fall i dont have any plugins on that server its a fresh world

[placid elm]

well if you don't say what you need help with no one can help you

[pine knoll]

look

this isthe hub

it didnt even gen world

[placid elm]

still not asking a question

[pine knoll]

so i have a hub and survival server and that when you connect to the Waterfall server, it puts you on the survival server even though the hub has a higher priority. And when you check hub console, it says to enable IP forwarding but you already have it enabled on Waterfall config

[placid elm]

ok did you do what I said?

[pine knoll]

and im checking tn

[placid elm]

enable ip-forwarding in spigot.yml

also bungee in spigot.yml

[pine knoll]

it is

thats the problem

it is enabled

a long time ago

[placid elm]

its enabled on the hub server?

try going to the survival server

and type /server hub

you are probably getting that error since you are trying to connect to the server directly

[pine knoll]

and its config correct

ly

and when hub is higher than survival it just takes me to survival

[placid elm]

ok thats not an ip forwarding issue

the hub just isn't connected to bungee

your config is wrong

[pine knoll]

The servers were on different ips all along

lol

[placid elm]

so it works now?

[pine knoll]

yes

[placid elm]

ok

[stuck delta]

How do i fix this, server o want to connect is mohist

[stuck delta]

Check your ip and your server port

[pine knoll]

already fixed it

[pine knoll]

and also that wasent the problem

[stuck delta]

Hmm okey

[vernal plover]

How to fix this?

[autumn parrot]

why cant a waterfall server connect to a nother waterfall server

[placid elm]

Because waterfall is a proxy not a server

[autumn parrot]

the thing is i can connect waterfall to bungeecord

[unkempt girder]

Are you using redisbungee?

[autumn parrot]

no

just normal bungeecord works

[placid elm]

You can’t connect proxy’s without something like redisbungee

[autumn parrot]

well i can connect waterfall to bungeecord

[placid elm]

I don’t see the point in even doing that?

[autumn parrot]

so why doesnt bungeecord to bungeecord or waterfall to waterfall work

[placid elm]

What are you trying to do exactly

[autumn parrot]

basicly i dont want to constantly switch ports oraund

so i have one server that will foward it to the otherone

[placid elm]

Why do you need two proxies for that?

[autumn parrot]

and i dont want everything to run on one proxie

[autumn parrot]

becaz the proxie its connecting to has way more power

but is not always on

[placid elm]

Maybe try making the proxy offline mode?

[autumn parrot]

alredy is

like

the backend proxie right?

[placid elm]

Yes

But you are using both proxies either way?

[autumn parrot]

wdym

[placid elm]

Players are connecting through proxy A to B to the backend servers

The traffic still has to go through proxy A

[autumn parrot]

yes

[placid elm]

So even if that did work you aren’t taking any load off the first proxy

[autumn parrot]

actualy yes it is

on my old setup the proxie would lag

i guess forwarding g´data isnt that demanding

[placid elm]

Its doing the same thing it would do in the first place

Its just going through a second proxy

[autumn parrot]

not realy

[placid elm]

How many players do you have?

[autumn parrot]

not alot

and this is also just my dev stuff

[placid elm]

The proxy really shouldn’t be lagging then

[autumn parrot]

basicly i stress tested it with 5 bots since i knew that 5 players would lag the proxie

but this time it didnt lag

[placid elm]

You sure the lag isn’t coming from the backend servers?

[autumn parrot]

nope

18 - 19 tps everywhere

[placid elm]

18-19 with 5 players?

Thats just really bad hardware then

[autumn parrot]

🤦

you got it wrong

basicly the test with 5 players was basicly with the full edge network with the proie running on that server

it was like over 20 diffrent servers connect to one

this time its only 1 server

and the back end proxie handles all the servers

the back end proxie is way stronger

[placid elm]

If you want to run multiple proxies you need to use something like redisbungee, i cant see a proxy through a proxy working or even helping your problem

[autumn parrot]

i run my main server on windows and dev servers on mac os

so basicly it need to run on windows

wich it apprently doesnt do

i guess im just going to connect stuff from waterfall to bungee

it works so

i guess i wont get the watefall benefits

tf do i even use redis

[craggy trout]

I wouldn't run definitly Waterfall on windows

Netty Epoll event improves the performance a lot, and only works on Linux

[unkempt girder]

Could you provide more information? Such as logs etc

[craggy trout]

You could do some debug using waterfall packet debug mode

with the flag

-Dwaterfall.packet-decode-logging=true

[autumn parrot]

well linux is not userfrendly at all

[craggy trout]

what

[autumn parrot]

???

its not userfrendly like windows

[unkempt girder]

Thats not really a problem for server tho

[autumn parrot]

and all my network i dependant on windows

[royal hawk]

To note here; Bungeecord working in a stacked configuration is highly doubtful
Reason: Bungeecord is designed to prevent client resets by a server
That makes it impossible to switch servers on a downstream instance outright. I don’t think we removed that limit on Waterfall

I’ll correct myself: waterfall doesn’t have the limit

I checked

there’s still a lot of stuff bungeecord does that screws you over if you stack it. Use velocity if you’re thinking about toying with stacked proxies. I can at least guarantee that velocity doesn’t put up a fight
It’s still unsupported ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[autumn parrot]

oh boi

velocity

im not going to mess with that again lol

wenn starting minigameslib i get this error

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @autumn parrot: https://paste.gg/c19c1b850c784cde8f9a7c0fa6bd08d1

[craggy trout]

Yeah.. well your config issue

[autumn parrot]

thats first time running btw

and i figured out that i just used to wrong version lol

[rain dome]

does waterfall require bungeecord="true" in spigot.yml? I am sure it does, just to confirm...

[royal hawk]

if you want UUIDs to be consistent and skins etc to work correctly then yes. You also need to enable ip forward in the bungee yml config

[rain dome]

okie

[median phoenix]

How can I make it so people only with a permission can directly connect to a server with an direct IP

Please ping me if you can help me!

[marble kelp]

@median phoenix that would be an extremely unsafe and potentially broken configuration, if you want them to join a specific server use the forced hosts config

[median phoenix]

????

[marble kelp]

note sure what's not to understand there

[floral olive]

Hi

If I want a server in 1.18.2, Waterfall 1.19 will work?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[placid elm]

is it possible to have groups of servers that are contained in one waterfall proxy?

so like {a,b} {c,d} and you can only do /server a or /server b from that group?

[reef fulcrum]

basically, no

waterfall doesn't have a single concept of grouping, etc

on the inverse, yes, stuff like that is easy to do in plugins

[reef fulcrum]

and?

I mean, theres nothing useful in there

if the things stalling it's generally gonna be elsewhere

depends on how you're hosting

[dense dagger]

Hello. I need help here

Using latest WaterFall , Spigot
connecting to localhost
no plugin installed
Vanilla Client

[14:53:04 WARN]: [/127.0.0.1:32361] <-> InitialHandler - A decoder exception has been thrown:
io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: net.md_5.bungee.protocol.OverflowPacketException: Cannot receive string longer than 1020 (got 1282 bytes)

[reef fulcrum]

iirc, that generally screams a hostname which is too long

[dense dagger]

uhhh
then
Is there any way to solve it?

[reef fulcrum]

use a shorter hostname

[dense dagger]

how?

[reef fulcrum]

the domain name that you use to connect

Like, in the client

[reef fulcrum]

No idea then

1020/4 = 255, theres only 1 thing in the proxy which has a limit of 255 characters and that's the hostname in the handshake packet

if you're hitting the size limit with just that, idk what's going on

[dense dagger]

welp... Velocity works

[royal hawk]

There’s a weird issue where the client will provide its full net adapter address and UUID
Exg 0.1.2….ip6.arpa{msb.lsb}1.2.2.4…

That is something Java can resolve

But it shouldn’t happen

Haven’t been able to reproduce it reliably either

The second option is that the packet is mangled but salvageable

The bungee compressor is broken in a way that breaks setups weirdly without compression enabled

We could fix that by modifying the frame decoder to work like on velocity but I digress

[manic verge]

Is upgrading from Bungeecord to Waterfall as simple as replacing the jar and restarting? Is there a risk of some plugins getting broken or files corrupted? Thanks.

[marble kelp]

yes, you just need to replace the jar (of course always have backups but there is little to no data that could be corrupt on the proxy anyways)

[reef surge]

is viaversion be used in waterfall?

[craggy trout]

Waterfall already supports all protocol list, is useless bad-performant and will not work on 1.19 anymore viaversion on proxy

I just thing that is really useless thing on proxy.

[winged bridge]

I'm unable to connect to my servers to my knowledge I setup everything right. I can provide other info if needed. I just need to be able to get this working

[reef fulcrum]

check logs

[winged bridge]

I fixed it, I had to change the IP in the config to my machines IP

[left basin]

When stoping a subserver how do i force my players to connect to the lobby?

[obtuse shadow]

I am getting this error on startup, then console is frozen

[reef fulcrum]

urgh, windows...

outside of "check for other errors", no idea, your system basically failed to load the native thing which hooks the proper terminal

[royal hawk]

Smells like windows terminal

Just uh

Use cmd

[lusty needle]

Hello 👋 My server has been lagging really badly and has been losing connection to the proxy and wanted to ask if this is due to the previous release of Minecraft and the waterfall plug in?

[placid elm]

Plug-in

[valid kraken]

Hello! Update waterfall and paper to 1.19. Now in my lobby server when trying to enter using /server NAME to a CLOSED server it expels me with this error. Previously it just gave me an alert message that the server was offline. What can be?

[queen mountain]

Hi, why is this happening?

[royal hawk]

You wrote true/false somewhere where a number is supposed to go

[craggy trout]

He asked literaly same on other community

[craggy trout]

I could, when exactly happens?

[blazing kelp]

Hi there, what those this error entail?

 [lobby] - could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(3) + length(35) exceeds writerIndex(4): PooledSlicedByteBuf(ridx: 3, widx: 4, cap: 4/4, unwrapped: PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 5, widx: 5, cap: 512))
[23:42:32 INFO]: [PapaWulf] disconnected with: The server you were previously on went down, you have been connected to a fallback server```

[craggy trout]

Not much we can say, it could not decode the packet usually outdated plugins and that stuff

[random oriole]

How can I set a MOTD in the bungeecord API, is it using ProxyPingEvent?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[empty pawn]

how to fix this?

16.07 10:32:21 [Server] WARN Tried to over-fill a container

[mortal lintel]

May sound stupid but waterfall also have support for lower versions does that mean I still need via version/backwards on the other servers?

[reef fulcrum]

waterfall is a proxy

it proxies

if you need translations for diff protocol versions, you need something which does that

(ideally on the servers, not on the proxy)

[mortal lintel]

Yeah I thought about that, Reason why I said it sounds stupid xD.

[ancient aurora]

1.19-61 /w waterfall-1.19-496
plz help me

[reef fulcrum]

reproduce without plugins

[tulip surge]

latest.log by @ancient aurora: https://paste.gg/4c6d5940a0b04593b8afa4a3f4f2c277

[ancient aurora]

without plugins /w logs

[reef fulcrum]

on the proxy too?

[ancient aurora]

yes,i using waterfall

[reef fulcrum]

literally not what I meant

literally, have you tested without plugins on the proxy too

otherwise, make sure that you're using a vanilla client

[ancient aurora]

i using vanilla client

if you need waterfall `s config.yml?

[reef fulcrum]

No

Do you have plugins on waterfall?

[ancient aurora]

here

[reef fulcrum]

and, for the 3rd time

have you tried without them?

[ancient aurora]

without plugin(s)?

[reef fulcrum]

yes.

[ancient aurora]

connected

thanks

[stuck nacelle]

Hey, how to make command replies on waterfall 1.19 appear in chat, not in action bar? It started happening since I updated

This is reply to /bungee

[craggy trout]

Hey, that's not really fault of Waterfall to solve that you need to use "ViaVersion-dev" build in stead spigot one.

[royal hawk]

It actually is Waterfalls (Bungees) fault. But md doesn’t care and no paper member has bothered to write a fix

[craggy trout]

I know, md_5 is a bit

{

}

Any ways, why this is really casued? I can see and pr

[royal hawk]

Chat registry. The same thing we didn’t completely implement on velocity yet, but feel free to copy and port that once it’s done

[random oriole]

in regards to this, I've got https://sourceb.in/IjimLUy3ZJ
But the event isn't setting the text.

[reef surge]

So does viaversion works with waterfall?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

use the dev builds

ideally install on the actual backend servers

[tidal musk]

[09:23:50 WARN]: Event ProxyPingEvent(connection=[/5.71.168.91:49733] <-> InitialHandler, response=ServerPing(version=ServerPing.Protocol(name=Waterfall 1.8.x, 1.9.x, 1.10.x, 1.11.x, 1.12.x, 1.13.x, 1.14.x, 1.15.x, 1.16.x, 1.17.x, 1.18.x, 1.19.x, protocol=759), players=ServerPing.Players(max=50, online=0, sample=null), description=HexoCraft - Lobby, modinfo=ServerPing.ModInfo(type=FML, modList=[]))) took 324ms to process!

What could this mean?

[reef fulcrum]

whatever is listenin to that event is slow

or the proxy is overloaded

[craggy trout]

I thing is your motd or something like that

[reef surge]

What do u mean?

[autumn oxide]

Can someone explain me please why the same IP always appears in this messages?

Its the same IP, but different ports

What does it means?

[reef fulcrum]

That it's coming from the same IP?

[autumn oxide]

Yep

[reef fulcrum]

The port will always change between different connections

idk what else you're expecting to be told here

Generally, if you're expecting those to be different IPs, check your network setup

that generally imples that something between you and them is proxying traffic or something

[autumn oxide]

The thing is that this appears everyday, as if someone its trying to connect to the server, but this IP does not match with any user

Its an attack or something similar to that? Or nothing to worry about?

[reef fulcrum]

We can't really tell you

an attack is generally more predicated around how fast the connections are made

an IP address just tryna connect to your network literally means nothing other than something tryna connect to your network

whois the IP address and see what type of source its coming from

otherwise blacklist it in firewall and move on

[autumn oxide]

Probably I will just do that, thanks

[amber prairie]

https://pastebin.com/2Fti1UEVi get this error when i try join

[reef fulcrum]

update tab.

[amber prairie]

Oh okay

[rotund abyss]

Do you guys think these waterfalls looks good?

[craggy trout]

bruh

I mean #memes

@reef fulcrum paper should add for waterfall some info for that weirdo issue of viaversion and bungee

[reef fulcrum]

wut

[craggy trout]

Related to this, i think that is better than open and close multiple times of same issue

[reef fulcrum]

I mean

what you said literally makes 0 sense

[craggy trout]

lmao why

I literally said that it would be a good thing to give some information about the viaversion and bungeecord problem on github so that people stop opening reports for the same issue all the time.

[reef fulcrum]

where?

Best I could do is a pinned issue but I really don't have the patience to try to write such a thing right now

[craggy trout]

Uh, well that's just my opinion to avoid doing the same task thanks tho.

[marble kelp]

could just pin one of those issues 👀

[reef fulcrum]

I'd have to find a properly reported one or something, idk

[shadow spear]

Hi! I get this error from a few players off my network.
Unexpected packet received during server login process! 3604018078fad2a60839778bbb3370a5
What can I do with it?

[reef fulcrum]

as said, check server logs

reproduce without plugins, etc

all we can see is that something sent a packet that wasn't expected

[shadow spear]

I'm using these plugins. In the server logs there are nothing expect this error when a player tries to join.

[reef fulcrum]

server

not proxy

[shadow spear]

Oh.

Okay.

Lobby's plugins's:_

[marble kelp]

PlugMan 😅

[shadow spear]

hm?

It's bad or what?

[marble kelp]

well as long as you don'st disable or reload plugins at runtime it's fine I guess (but als not really necessary to use anymore in that case)

[craggy trout]

In my opinion reload plugins are garbage

[fathom jetty]

Offline mode

[craggy trout]

[craggy trout]

Who uses anti op on 2022

Instead disabling command on spigot.yml

accountguard is useless i thing

ConsoleSpamFix is the worst plugin, instead fixing directly the issue you hide it

You can use just a core-hub designed for networks ig

[ancient fjord]

Hey.
When I try to join one of my servers on waterfall I get this error.
The server is 1.12.2, and the other servers are 1.18.2 (they work fine).

The server worked just an hour ago, and now I can't seem to connect.
EDIT: I use the latest version of waterfall

[marble kelp]

do you have any plugns installed?

if so test without

[ancient fjord]

Yeah. So I figured out that I needed viaversion to be installed on the server too for it to use /server <server>
So that problem is now solved.
But I can join the server using /server <server>, but /send <player> <server> does not work.

I already tried removing all plugins, but that didn't work.
Maybe the problem is with ViaVersion, but I'm not sure.

[marble kelp]

the both commands basically work the same

[ancient fjord]

Oh well. But I can say for sure that I can connect to the 1.12.2 server using /server but not /send.
/send works on the 1.18.2 server tho.

[jaunty shuttle]

can i still get help for bungee here?

[marble kelp]

this is the waterfall help channel, if you use plain bungee then I suggest asking in its help (or just use waterfall)

[jaunty shuttle]

where can I find that?

[craggy trout]

Waterfall is the fork of bungeecord

https://papermc.io/downloads#Waterfall

I suggest you Waterfall, it haves some performance & security improvements

[jaunty shuttle]

Would I have to delete all my config and redo it if I wanted to switch?

[craggy trout]

Waterfall is a scalable & stable fork, so i don't think that you neeed to change nothing

Just config waterfall.yml if you have some trouble with dns addon

[jaunty shuttle]

would i just replace the bungee file with waterfall?

[craggy trout]

Basicly yes

[radiant yarrow]

Hey, when I restarted my Waterfall instance, for some reason, the messages when a player pings the server and when he joins the server vanished.
The only remaining message is the "disconnected" one
How can I fix this?

[random oriole]

I'm trying to set an MOTD on my waterfall proxy, I've got https://sourceb.in/IjimLUy3ZJ
But the event isn't setting the text.

[reef fulcrum]

are you sure that the listener is registered?

[random oriole]

It's registered in the main as getProxy().getPluginManager().registerListener(this, new UserOnProxyPing());

[reef fulcrum]

well, generally depends on where the motd is coming from

make sure that you press the refresh button as 1.19 changed some stuff

[random oriole]

Ahh, it's because an event that requires another plugin isn't present, how can I run a check that if it isn't present, it doesn't load?

[reef fulcrum]

place the event listener in another class and check getPlugin

[compact portal]

[10:10:42 INFO]: [S] ItsFantom joined Unknown
[10:10:42 INFO]: java.lang.NullPointerException
[10:10:44 WARN]: Error occurred processing connection for ItsFantom ConnectTimeoutException : connection timed out: /***.**.*.*:25566
[10:10:44 INFO]: [ItsFantom] disconnected with: Fallback server is down. Please wait few moments and rejoin!
[10:10:44 INFO]: [S] ItsFantom left
[10:10:44 INFO]: java.lang.NullPointerException

Why does this happen

[reef fulcrum]

all I can tell you is what it says, the connection timed out

[compact portal]

should i send whole log?

[reef fulcrum]

for the NullPointerException, check the logs for the first instances of that error, should have the full trace, otherwise, there was a jvm flag to ensure that it always shows a trace

[compact portal]

this is jvm flags

java -Xms128M -XX:MaxRAMPercentage=95.0 -jar proxy.jar

and this is log: https://mclo.gs/Uwxeqzg

also im using Java11

[reef fulcrum]

irrelevant

you had a connection error

as for the null errors, you'd need to work that out

given that you're looking to be running in an unsupported mode, or at least using plugins known to cause issues which I refuse to provide support, i'm out

[compact portal]

So what are you saying is I maybe using plugins that can be causing plugins or using unsupported proxy version?

[unkempt girder]

Unsupported mode = offline mode, based of your skinsrestorer and botsentry

[craggy trout]

BotSentry is really bad even antibot software, i suggest you an properly firewall

[compact portal]

i got good firewall but still +1L of prot :D

[craggy trout]

Yeah well... bs is not that good.

[compact portal]

gotchu i had to remove those 2 plugins since no need em

i had server on offline mode but lotta shit people joined with alts and stuff so i had to make it online

[craggy trout]

Here cracked is not supported, but if you want some anti-bot i can tell you few

[compact portal]

i dont have it cracked no more

i learned my lesson long ago

:D

[craggy trout]

Well, you only will need an good firewall now ig

Encryption

[humble heath]

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[craggy trout]

infinite iq

[tulip surge]

latest.log by @wide venture: https://paste.gg/734dc909726f40b6a819154492447e83

[tidal musk]

why is it giving error like this

started giving error out of nowhere

[reef fulcrum]

at com.rivanetwork.rivareportbungee.ChannelListener.onPluginMessage(ChannelListener.java:28) ~[?:?]

that plugin tried to decode something that was invalid

[tidal musk]

someone is giving this error when logging into the server

[reef fulcrum]

that's a plugin issue

[tidal musk]

okay

[humble heath]

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[craggy trout]

What he means with "idk how to set it up for waterfall" if config.yml is exactly same

I guess that is firewall or smth like that

[humble thistle]

Hi appear this error in my waterfall server and kick all people to the fallback server

Team EJMLL_Z130 already exists in this scoreboard

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @humble thistle: https://paste.gg/e0ef6b122c9c414c98e5b088684f634b

[craggy trout]

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Team EJMLL_Z130 already exists in this scoreboard

Uh this empty scoreboard issue

[humble thistle]

how can i solve this¿?

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[reef fulcrum]

send

[craggy trout]

send

o

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[craggy trout]

Bruh, your plugin should have an option to execute commands

like "npc command send" ig

[autumn parrot]

apprently i can make waterfall connect to a nother server as defoult

like i removed it from the prioritties and even made the other server go first

[autumn parrot]

ok idk what i did

but now it works

[errant dew]

how do i send player from lobby-1 to bedwars lobby-1 dose adding of bw lobby1's ip in proxy-1 hlp?

using water fall

or bungecord

[lunar dragon]

[22:40:27 INFO]: [/myip|Propants05] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [lobby] has disconnected
[22:40:27 WARN]: [/myip|Propants05] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [lobby2] - could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(3) + length(30) exceeds writerIndex(4): PooledSlicedByteBuf(ridx: 3, widx: 4, cap: 4/4, unwrapped: PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 3682, widx: 4078, cap: 8192))

you can help me whit thir error

on join in my network?

[craggy trout]

Not much we can say more than that, "could not decode a packet", mostly be a plugin

[forest trellis]

I'm hétero

[valid moat]

waterfall correctly supports Forge over 1.13 or modifications of it? either Mohist or Magma

[slate moat]

1.13+ forge cannot be achieved without a clientside mod and a different proxy, Try lightfall if you need 1.13 forge support
||https://github.com/ArclightPowered/lightfall||

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[reef fulcrum]

use a plugin on that server

[humble heath]

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[reef fulcrum]

theres a few

I recall one called spawnonjoin or something

[humble heath]

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[reef fulcrum]

what

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[reef fulcrum]

that's a global spawn

not per player

literally only admins use that command

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[cerulean phoenix]

Hello! How can I disable teleportation to the last server where I played when I logged in?

[reef fulcrum]

force default in the config file

[cerulean phoenix]

thx

[tidal musk]

Hello, so if I use a proxy like waterfall, does it being used for minecraft related traffic?
for example if a plugin download something will it expose the real ip?

[craggy trout]

What

Waterfall is a proxy, does not mind for what it handles traffic from server <-> client, obvuisly works with real sockets.

[foggy thicket]

i updated to the latest waterfall version and all chat messages for bungee show up on like the actionbar

^ had to use a dev version of viaversion to fix

[raven brook]

Been getting session timeouts constantly all day and mass disconnects with read timed out https://pastebin.com/LpeUDw2A Server is hosted in EU

[reef fulcrum]

something tried to send a 1.19 packet to a 1.18 client

I mean, wait, 1.17.1 client

[jolly whale]

Hey is it possible to do this configuration and if yes then how?

I've tried it and unfortunately doesnt work without special configuration

[reef fulcrum]

unsupported

the proxy will blatently prevent that

[craggy trout]

You can split your proxies to load balance ig, but you can't "sub-split"

[royal hawk]

You’ll have too modify the level two proxies in a way that allows them to accept forwarded data
And the first level proxy needs to have a few limitations removed by patching the project- If you use velocity as first level you won’t have that issue, but the other issue still persists

[vital peak]

im making a server using waterfall i have a problem that makes users connect to the last server that they logged off at

i want to connect them to the lobby server everytime they connect to the server

[errant dew]

forcedefaultserver =true

waterfall config

[craggy trout]

bungeecords*

[jolly whale]

How would i go about modifying the second level proxy? Is patching it to enable IP forward data enough? Or is there anything else that's necessary to be taken into account

[royal hawk]

Probably some length limit and some plugin channel logic

I never tried this so I wouldn’t know

I can just guess

[tidal horizon]

well, it depends on what you want to do on the second level proxy

I'm building a new proxy which should put on the second level

and the goal was do some filter/modify in mc package level, eg: drop all player input package expect chat, per player bandwidth limit

[royal hawk]

That’s really bad to do as second level

You’re just shooting yourself in the foot with that

[tidal horizon]

and in theory can make a anti-xray without touching the backend mc server, I'm trying to implement it.

yes, that is a hard work

but it can done something that plugin could not be able to do

[reef fulcrum]

Well, yea

ofc in theory you can do that

[royal hawk]

If your server is that heavily bottlenecked then fair enough

[reef fulcrum]

but, like, why tf would you

[royal hawk]

[tidal horizon]

the first point for me to make this, was the per player bandwidth limit, but it was solve by a modified mmproxy.

then I saw some player use the cheat mod, which break the knowledge I know before. He can do telport without permission and never trigger any warning.

and I have no idea how to detect/prevent them. so I deside to make a L7 proxy to log what happened at package level and try to figure out how it works.

[bleak bramble]

Having an issue with 1.16.5 forge support using the latest waterfall build.

[reef fulcrum]

modern forge is not supported by pretty much all proxies

there is lightfall but it requires a client mod

[bleak bramble]

Damn really?

Is there any other alternatives to get waterfall to work lol?

[reef fulcrum]

no

[bleak bramble]

Because it seems like it wants to but

[02:29:39 ERROR]: Channels [pixelmon:main] rejected vanilla connections
[02:29:39 INFO]: Disconnecting VANILLA connection attempt: This server has mods that require Forge to be installed on the client. Contact your server admin for more details.

getting this on the forge server

[reef fulcrum]

yes, because it's not supported

[bleak bramble]

Velocity doesn't support it either?

[reef fulcrum]

no

issue is that forge doesn't work in a manner which proxies can support anymore

even before it was shaky at best, now it's pretty much unviable without forge adding support for it

hence why lightfall works but requires a client mod

[bleak bramble]

damn well that's annoying lol

[autumn parrot]

wenn i join my server the lobby doesnt load

[fathom jetty]

What even is this client? 🙀

[royal hawk]

There’s a velocity plugin and mod combination by @steady meteor that might make it work. Haven’t been keeping up with any of that

[steady meteor]

https://github.com/adde0109/Ambassador

At 0.2.2 now

[autumn parrot]

labymod

[zenith lark]

Hi all, i have a strange issue. After upgrading waterfall to the 1.19 version i am having some problems with the fallback functions.
I have 3 fallback servers configured, but when i restart the server i am currently logged into, i experience a timeout when trying to log in. It seems waterfall is not sending me to a configured fallback server. Any ideas ?