waterfall-help

[reef fulcrum]

make sure that you're using the latest version, etc

Theres pretty much nothing there for us to go off

[lost juniper]

How can i stop this spam in console?

[reef fulcrum]

generally, blacklist the IP doing that

[severe cargo]

I am on the same network as the server. Neither is 127.0.0.1

[reef fulcrum]

how are you running the server?

[severe cargo]

Waterfall 1.19 with Paper 1.19

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, the server you're connecting to, the IP in waterfall is pointing to 127.0.0.1

No, I mean, like, what are you running it on

a hosting provider? a control panel? just on a VPS or local machine or whatever?

[severe cargo]

I am running it on my dedicated desktop pc

Here is my config for waterfall

[tulip surge]

waterfall.yml by @severe cargo: https://paste.gg/8c5f6aef774846adbeb0f9ca545c830c

[tulip surge]

config.yml by @severe cargo: https://paste.gg/0564ccacfc244805a2eac51c0db31028

[reef fulcrum]

Okay, so, make sure that your paper servers have the server-ip set to localhost/127... or blank

[severe cargo]

it's blank in the paper server config

[reef fulcrum]

so, server ip is blank, and port is 25566?

[severe cargo]

here is my lobby config

[tulip surge]

server.properties by @severe cargo: https://paste.gg/c3fabe463c28401caa80dcc9d9119de8

[reef fulcrum]

Well, the proxy was tryna connect you to the creative server

[severe cargo]

where did you see that?

[severe cargo]

oh yeah

ok, that wasn't on 1.19, trying again now

[reef fulcrum]

apparently it wasn't running unless you had some borked plugin

[severe cargo]

Now it's bouncing me between the two servers

[reef fulcrum]

the proxy just works down the list until it finds something it can connect to unless there is a plugin interfering with that

[severe cargo]

ok

thx

Here is what i am seeing right now.

[reef fulcrum]

Well, you clearly have something borked on the server causing the client to disconnect

idk how you've managed to get it to loop like that though

[severe cargo]

Yeah, going to try with lobby not running

[reef fulcrum]

nothing to do with what is and isn't running at this point

something on your network is mangling packets

[severe cargo]

When it happens, it also crashes minecraft

[severe cargo]

When running just waterfall and my creative server, i get this:

[reef fulcrum]

Because you have something mangling packets which is causing it to be unable to connect to the servers

reproduce without plugins, etc

[severe cargo]

I am about to break so many things

[severe cargo]

still hitting the same error

[reef fulcrum]

so, no plugins on the servers and the proxy?

[severe cargo]

oh, i had stuff on the proxy

Got a connection with no plugins on waterfall

doing some troubleshooting

It's a bug with a plugin on waterfall

figuring out which plugin is causing the issue

[severe cargo]

Thanks so much for all the help

[worldly pebble]

Hey, for me the bungee-side messages on 1.19 with paper servers on 1.8.8 appear on the actionbar. How can i fix that? Because it makes bungee-commands chat output impossible to see

[tidal musk]

okay, we try this

[tribal merlin]

Hi, is this stuff normal? in the latest version of waterfall?

[12:19:38 WARN]: Error occurred processing connection for Mealfer AnnotatedConnectException : finishConnect(..) failed: Connection refused: /127.0.0.1:25568
[12:19:43 WARN]: Error occurred processing connection for ManyPekka2008 AnnotatedConnectException : finishConnect(..) failed: Connection refused: /127.0.0.1:25568

[craggy trout]

Well most of those attacks are with proxies

Waterfall should add option to toggle handler Boss exceptions

[craggy trout]

Wait that plugins for 1.19 support

Also, dont use too much plugins on the proxy, better to use them on spigot

[severe cargo]

I wasn’t even using it anymore

I just removed it

[craggy trout]

Epic

[mellow umbra]

Hello, i have this error when i try to launch my server.
[17:10:17 ERROR]: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassCastException: class java.lang.String cannot be cast to class java.lang.Integer (java.lang.String and java.lang.Integer are in module java.base of loader 'bootstrap')
[17:10:17 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.conf.YamlConfig.getListeners(YamlConfig.java:275)
[17:10:17 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.conf.Configuration.load(Configuration.java:96)
[17:10:17 ERROR]: at io.github.waterfallmc.waterfall.conf.WaterfallConfiguration.load(WaterfallConfiguration.java:67)
[17:10:17 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCord.start(BungeeCord.java:279)
[17:10:17 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCordLauncher.main(BungeeCordLauncher.java:67)
[17:10:17 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:15)
Anyone have an idea by chance please?
Thank you

[reef fulcrum]

bad config file

[mellow umbra]

Do I have to restart it to generate a new file?

[reef fulcrum]

No

Fix your config file

2 second look at the code to see what blew up, the query port is supposed to be a number, not a string

[reef fulcrum]

or just use a log filter, or just fucking block the thing doing that as 99% of the time I see people bitching about it it's from like 1 singular IP

[mellow umbra]

Okay it comes from the fact that I kept the same config by changing host. Thank you for the reply and sorry for the inconvenience.

[reef fulcrum]

changing host shouldn't impact that unless you changed to a shitty host

[alpine plank]

Any way to add a new server to the proxy without restarting?

[reef fulcrum]

either use a plugin which adds a command for that, or, unsupported and potentially gonna cause issues, greload

[alpine plank]

Happen to remember a plugin name off the top of your head?

[reef fulcrum]

no

[alpine plank]

np thanks 🙂

[mellow umbra]

I tried to change the query_port but each time it gives me apostrophes around the port and I can't remove them. They come back on their own.

[reef fulcrum]

speak to your host

[mellow umbra]

I asked him but he doesn't see where the problem is.

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, something is modifying the config file

something is modifying the config file and trying to put a string where a number belongs

make sure that you stop the proxy before you edit it

maybe reproduce without plugins, etc

outside of that, waterfall literally does not touch the config in a manner that could cause that, and most issues like that are generally down to stuff messing with the config on the hosts side

[mellow umbra]

Ok, thank you, I'll go see him to change the settings.

[mellow umbra]

It's good my server is finally starting. However now I have this which spams the console:
[20:11:02 WARN]: Query - Incorrect magic!: /172.200.0.1:40750
[20:11:02 INFO]: [/172.200.0.1:58682] <-> InitialHandler has pinged
[20:11:07 WARN]: Query - Incorrect magic!: /172.200.0.1:40750
[20:11:07 INFO]: [/172.200.0.1:58706] <-> InitialHandler has pinged
[20:11:12 WARN]: Query - Incorrect magic!: /172.200.0.1:40750
[20:11:12 INFO]: [/172.200.0.1:58734] <-> InitialHandler has pinged
Do you know what this means please?
thank you

[reef fulcrum]

something is trying to connect to the proxy but is sending invalid data

[mellow umbra]

Is there a way to block this?

[compact timber]

does anyone know what this even means?

[reef fulcrum]

outdated plugin

[steep wharf]

[reef fulcrum]

I had a theory as to what caused that

[tidal musk]

everytime I connect my servers to the waterfall server

the chat becomes like this

when I disable bungee in my backend server and join it directly

there's no <> %s

is there any known solution to fix this?

Lobby server without any plugins except just via version,backwards and rewind

still the same.

[marble kelp]

are you using the latest version of waterfall and the servers?

[tidal musk]

waterfall 1.19 latest

survival smp (1.18.2)
survival smp test server (1.19)
lobby server (1.18.2)

Ohh wait now that u mentioned it

1.19 test server seems to be fine

[marble kelp]

I mean, 1.18.2 doesn't support 1.19 natively so it's whatever plugin you are using there probably

[tidal musk]

Just recently known that it's the plugin's fault (via)

but thx for the time and sorry for the wrong support server that I've messaged

[rare portal]

Does anyone know why my Bungeeguard doesn't work? Ever since I updated my proxy to 1.19 I get this error message in chat.

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @rare portal: https://paste.gg/586ba7396e274f0e9199a7993aa0ed0f

[reef fulcrum]

update it.

[rare portal]

I already did

[reef fulcrum]

Then again, that's an entirely different issue to the norm

so, if you grabbed it from their CI or whatever you probs grabbed the wrong jar

Oh, wait

jdk.internal.reflect.Reflection

That's literally a JRE class

your java install is bork

either that or something is seriously wrong elsewhere and idefk how you'd manage that

[rare portal]

Weird, Ill try a different version of java

[timber root]

I'm having the same issue. I just updated to waterfall 1.19 and all bungee messages are sending to the action bar

Anyone know what's up?

[reef fulcrum]

update via to the latest dev build.

[timber root]

Ok

Wait was that to me

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[timber root]

ok

That worked, thank you!

[lilac panther]

Hello, where can be the problem?
"Could not connect to a default or fallback server, please try again later"

priorities:

• lobby
  Tried to change localhost:25566 to numerical ip and 0.0.0.0
  Nothing changed

• forced_hosts:
  localhost:25566: lobby
  Tried on/off force_default_server

tried ufw allow 25565 & ufw allow 25565/tcp

i can connect to my other servers normally (without proxy), only problem with proxy-lobby

[reef fulcrum]

if using ptero, see pins

otherwise, need to actually see logs, etc

[lilac panther]

thanks for the answer

[lilac panther]

fixed!!!

❤️

[steep root]

why some of my players often gets kicked with ReadTimeoutException : null?

[reef fulcrum]

All that tells us is that we didn't get a packet from them in 30 seconds

[steep root]

Is this problem on the player side or the server side?

[reef fulcrum]

I can't say

[steep root]

But this problem can be solved in some way, are there any ways?

[reef fulcrum]

Work out why a packet wasn't recieved in 30 seconds

It's a none trivial issue

[wise kite]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/895#issuecomment-372175216

[reef fulcrum]

is generally the best I can offer, generally means that either network issues or bad plugins, etc, etc, etc

[steep root]

okay, ty

[jaunty dust]

hey i'm trying to use waterfall and i always get this:

i switched from bungeecord to waterfall and it isn't working right

ok update: i removed all my plugins on my server and it worked
i think it's bungeeguard honestly

also this is happening to me too

[strange widget]

where can I download latest build of waterfall 1.18.2?

[reef fulcrum]

use the latest version, supports 1.8-1.19

[dense spire]

Hi, i cant join through proxy with 1.19. I have problem with this error
[WARN]: [/|EPGMooky] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [login] - could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(2) + length(6) exceeds writerIndex(3): PooledSlicedByteBuf(ridx: 2, widx: 3, cap: 3/3, unwrapped: PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 14054, widx: 16966, cap: 524288))
[10:29:27 WARN]: [/90.182.243.150:40770|EPGMooky] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [login] - could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(2) + length(6) exceeds writerIndex(3): PooledSlicedByteBuf(ridx: 2, widx: 3, cap: 3/3, unwrapped: PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 14054, widx: 16966, cap: 524288))
[INFO]: [EPGMooky] disconnected with: The server you were previously on went down, you have been connected to a fallback server

Anyone know what this error means?

[reef fulcrum]

something mangled a packet

[vernal arch]

@last comet

[dense spire]

So i should remove plugin one by one?

[reef fulcrum]

either that or a binary search

(i.e. remove plugins in batches and add stuff back in smaller groups or 1 by 1)

[dense spire]

I should remove plugins on Proxy or that login server?

[reef fulcrum]

potentially both

[wise patio]

Are there any config for lang or i have to edit in jar?

[reef fulcrum]

you can extract the messages file and place it in the proxy folder

[wise patio]

just like this and it will work?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[wise patio]

okay, ty

[last comet]

i cant do /server even if i have op, how to fix it..

[reef fulcrum]

the proxy doesn't know or care if you have op

also, /server is granted by default, make sure that you're actually connecting to the proxy

[last comet]

i am connected through the proxy

[wild geyser]

soo our proxy has been acting up allot since we've just (minutes ago) updated to the latest dev build of waterfall. Plugins give errors like this and we are running java17 and you cannot connect. Any clue?

[reef fulcrum]

You tried to install a server plugin on the proxy

[wild geyser]

sorry I ment the plugins on our normal servers.

proxy gives out

[reef fulcrum]

either borked plugin or borked java install

[wild geyser]

Could having the update to 1.19 waterfall have caused a java bork though?

[reef fulcrum]

no

[wild geyser]

cause we have been on java 17 since minecraft required it and it's been without issues

[reef fulcrum]

try updating bungeeguard to the latest dev build or whatever

[wild geyser]

we did aswel. Even regenerated our token

we are now going to try build #495 instead of #496

am I correct in assuming there might be an issue in waterfall where it tries to run a java8 function?

[reef fulcrum]

Literally nothing to do with waterfall.

[wild geyser]

okay then I am sorry for using up your time

[brittle hinge]

hey i got an issue with my server i tried to add a new server to my bungeecord and it doesnt work it shows all my 3 servers but my 4 server doesnt show up i did everything like on the other servers but it wont work :/

[strange widget]

does anyone know any redisbungee setup guide?

I need help connecting a proxy server to another proxy server

[frail cedar]

dunno what to think

waterfall sends me directly to second server

ignoring the priorities

any idea?

[crimson zealot]

hello who can give me the link waterfall 1.18 latest version???

I can not find it

pls 😦

[crimson zealot]

I only see waterfall 1.19
i am looking for 1.18

but i'm only looking for 1.18, not 1.19

pls

I can not find it 😦

[reef fulcrum]

Use the downloads API

(or, really, just use the latest build)

[crimson zealot]

thanks bro

[hybrid steeple]

Can I use fabric with waterfall?

[twilit oxide]

Hi, is it possible for glist to display the per server user list again at all? Not sure if that is a setting somewhere or not, I have had a look.

[reef fulcrum]

that command literally hasn't changed in years?

[twilit oxide]

hmm well /glist for me brings it up in the title bar

hence my confusion as like X players online

[reef fulcrum]

in the title bar?

[twilit oxide]

That little area just above your inventory

[reef fulcrum]

let me guess

via?

[twilit oxide]

oh that would explain it

yes for 1.18 atm

ty for solving the mystery 😄

[reef fulcrum]

use their latest dev build, don't think the patch for that is in a release yet

[twilit oxide]

ty

[nimble gull]

I took the last build of waterfall, the last build of paper and the error is still here. What could be the problem?

11:07:55 [WARNING] [_Amitexingg_] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [hub] - could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(4) + length(132) exceeds writerIndex(5): PooledSlicedByteBuf(ridx: 4, widx: 5, cap: 5/5, unwrapped: PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 42512, widx: 98059, cap: 131072))

no plugins there and there

[reef fulcrum]

so, no plugins on the server, and no plugins on the proxy?

[nimble gull]

if I connect from 1.18.2 to the 1.18.2 hub, everything is fine. As soon as I try to go from 1.19 to 1.19 paper the error is here

[nimble gull]

yes

just clear server and proxy

[reef fulcrum]

server logs?

[nimble gull]

without any errors

[11:07:55 INFO]: _Amitexingg_ lost connection: Disconnected```

[reef fulcrum]

full log

[wise patio]

How do i enable fallback server?

[worn fulcrum]

does waterfall support 1.19?

[round ocean]

jup

[worn fulcrum]

fallback is not working

what do i do

[reef fulcrum]

"not working"

[crimson raft]

hi guys

i saw in guides

Optimized: Standalone(512) BungeeCord(-1)

do they mean i set my bungeecord network-compression-threshold to -1?

and backend on 512?

or backend on -1?

if im on bungeecord

using waterfall btw

[reef fulcrum]

-1 on the backend

no point compressing packets for the proxy to have to uncompress them

then you set 512 in the proxy

but, "optimised" is a massive misnomer as it varies depending on many dozen factors

(with modern MC, I've heard some people have better experience just disabling it, but 🤷‍♂️ )

[crimson raft]

aight thank

s

[crimson raft]

so 512 is optimized in proxy?

256 is default right

[reef fulcrum]

Please read what I said

[crimson raft]

aight thanks, I'll keep mine on 256(default) just to be safe

[low laurel]

Where can I find the latest 1.18.2 waterfall jar?

As I don't want to go to 1.19 jars yet

Not all my plugins support 1.19 yet

[reef fulcrum]

the API hasn't changed, only stuff screwing with internals has and most of that has updated

otherwise, we don't pin older versions, you'd need to use the API

[low laurel]

Okay i'll try updating all my papers to 1.19 to be able to use the 1.19 waterfall

[reef fulcrum]

literally don't need to update the servers to update the proxy

[low laurel]

oh

[reef fulcrum]

the proxy supports 1.8-1.19

[low laurel]

tried that and got a huge error on my bungee console when I tried logging in

BungeeGuard is the reason when I use waterfall 1.19

[reef fulcrum]

which has a 1.19 build

[low laurel]

I am on the latest

can I send the error log in a pastebin here?

the error when I try to join the network

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, sure

[low laurel]

https://pastebin.com/cUP2FyXD

[worn fulcrum]

Can i get link to waterfall 1.19 stable build

[reef fulcrum]

yea, outdated version of bungeeguard

[low laurel]

oh hmm, will re install now

thanks ❤️

worked! ❤️

[somber grove]

[io.netty.util.concurrent.AbstractEventExecutor]: A task raised an exception. Task: net.md_5.bungee.connection.InitialHandler$6$1@9fde057
java.lang.Error: Method became inaccessible: PostLoginEvent(player=Abbodale)
        at net.md_5.bungee.event.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:53) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:ab3ccb8:496]
        at net.md_5.bungee.api.plugin.PluginManager.callEvent(PluginManager.java:466) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:ab3ccb8:496]
        at net.md_5.bungee.connection.InitialHandler$6$1.run(InitialHandler.java:577) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:ab3ccb8:496]
        at io.netty.util.concurrent.AbstractEventExecutor.runTask(AbstractEventExecutor.java:174) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:ab3ccb8:496]
        at io.netty.util.concurrent.AbstractEventExecutor.safeExecute(AbstractEventExecutor.java:167) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:ab3ccb8:496]
        at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor.runAllTasks(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:470) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:ab3ccb8:496]
        at io.netty.channel.epoll.EpollEventLoop.run(EpollEventLoop.java:391) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:ab3ccb8:496]
        at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor$4.run(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:995) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:ab3ccb8:496]
        at io.netty.util.internal.ThreadExecutorMap$2.run(ThreadExecutorMap.java:74) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:ab3ccb8:496]
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:833) ~[?:?]
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalAccessException: class net.md_5.bungee.event.EventHandlerMethod cannot access a member of class dev.hypera.ultrastaffchatpro.lib.chameleon.platforms.bungeecord.events.BungeeCordListener with modifiers "private"
        at jdk.internal.reflect.Reflection.newIllegalAccessException(Reflection.java:392) ~[?:?]
        at java.lang.reflect.AccessibleObject.checkAccess(AccessibleObject.java:674) ~[?:?]
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:560) ~[?:?]
        at net.md_5.bungee.event.EventHandlerMethod.invoke(EventHandlerMethod.java:19) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:ab3ccb8:496]
        at net.md_5.bungee.event.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:50) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:ab3ccb8:496]
        ... 9 more

Keeps giving that error anytime someone tries to join

[royal hawk]

caused by this plugin: dev.hypera.ultrastaffchatpro.

[craggy trout]

Most of errors are because people does not update they plugins bruh

[hollow dock]

curious... is there a way to make portals (without mods) to other servers?

[crimson raft]

1 more question

I have this odd case where I have my bungeecord server on other host and my factions server on other hosting

like the fac server is hosted in texas and the bungee is hosted in NYC

but still both in NA

Do I still set the network-compression-threshold of the Factions server to -1?

cuz ive seen this Note: If your server is in a network with the proxy on localhost or the same datacenter (<2 ms ping), disabling this (-1) will be beneficial.

so they're probably not in the same datacenter

Do i still set my backend server compression-threshold to -1?

[sharp belfry]

If one is in Texas and the other NYC that's definitely not the same datacenter.

And thats probably a really bad configuration ping wise.

[fathom jetty]

Sure, with plugins

[worn fulcrum]

im using waterfall latest jar

why does it say it doesnt allow 1.19

Enabled Waterfall version git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.18-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:5661172:488

this is what i get in console for using #497 build

what am i doing wrong?

[reef fulcrum]

using #497

...:488

that's not the 497 build

[worn fulcrum]

ik but

thats 497

[reef fulcrum]

You have two jar files in there

You're probably running the wrong one

[worn fulcrum]

i deleted the other, its auto generating

[reef fulcrum]

delete that jar

[worn fulcrum]

ok

[reef fulcrum]

rename the 497 jar to to waterfall.jar

failing that, check your panel/speak to your host

[worn fulcrum]

thanks

that fixed

[crimson raft]

so

what do I set in server-compression-threshold

in b ackend

just default? or 512?

[sharp belfry]

You'd be better off asking someone else that I don't have much knowledge of Bungee cord specifically.

[reef fulcrum]

for backends, generally -1 to disable it

Like, no need to compress packets to then have to immediatly uncompress them over a fast network

[dense cloak]

Hello there, just updated waterfall from 1.18.2 to latest 1.19 build without changing anything in configs and we can't connect to servers now : Kicked whilst connecting to [name of the server]: Unable to authenticate.

[sharp belfry]

In their case their backend is halfway across the country

[reef fulcrum]

There is no magical number, it can vary on many factors but for high speed connections, compressing to decompress is generally pointless

it's only really slower connections where it makes sense, and the advent of decent connections often makes mojangs slow compression the biggest bottleneck, but, it varies

[tulip temple]

I keep getting this error when connecting to a certain area of a server. Only when my client is on 1.19 and it fully disconnects me from the server.

No errors on waterfall, none on the paper server... Do you know what this could be? https://screenshots.skizzles.me/wAnA3/boJorOji71.png

[wise patio]

Why i have disconnect logs only?
[13:52:52 INFO]: [/] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [login] has disconnected

how do i enable connect and ping logs

[reef fulcrum]

config.yml and waterfall.yml, iirc

forget who's got what as we had configs for both at one point iirc

[wise patio]

log_initial_handler_connections: true
its this?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[wise patio]

so i think something is wrong with this, i had it enabled but i dont see logs

also this is on log_pings: true

[reef fulcrum]

best guess would be to check plugins, etc

[wise patio]

hm okay ill do it

[slim coral]

How to disable tab completion on proxy? Please help because anyone can see admin commands which ofc are unusable for random player but I want everything to be perfect

[marble kelp]

don't give them permission to those commands

if the plugin does it correctly then players should not be able to see them

[slim coral]

there is already no permission to those commands these are just visible that is the problem

[tough vale]

yell at the plugin developers to register their commands properly then

[slim coral]

One more thing: how to automatically type /stop to all bungee servers on command because i hate to individually close all bungee servers when I need to

[marble kelp]

you would need a plugin for that

(or a script depending on how you host those)

[slim coral]

i host on my own windows pc

[marble kelp]

err, okay. then I have no idea lol

[blazing ocean]

Windows moment

[sweet jasper]

[uneven trout]

hi i whant to dowlouwd the 1.18.2 waterfall version but can not vind it do you no whear to vind it????

[tidal musk]

Latest build supports 1.8-1.19 backends

So 1.18 aswell

[uneven trout]

Thank you

[vernal arch]

If i use Geyser+floodgate in my proxy i dont need to setup geyser on my spigot servers right?

[uneven trout]

can i make bdw also make a waterfall server on a server that already is mate??🙃

[shut summit]

No client connected for pending server!

[tidal musk]

Hey! When I run it I don't get any proper server files.

Like server.properties

[junior sequoia]

with waterfall i need to use some plugin to remove log4j exploit?

or waterfall fix it for itself?

[marble kelp]

it has been fixed for a while now

[molten cedar]

It's happen only with 1.19 client

[junior sequoia]

but the ONLY THING I need is waterfall or any fork of bungee that fix log4j?

[serene tide]

Yes, you don't need any additional programs to get rid of the log4j exploit.

[junior sequoia]

ok, thank you

[craggy trout]

Pretty sure is some of your plugin

On the proxy

[craggy trout]

Log4j got solved by papermc long ago, then log4j team fixed by updating.

[junior sequoia]

my server is on 1.8.8

so there is no update

but luckly jhdev made a fix for it

[craggy trout]

?

[reef fulcrum]

That was literally patched in .8

[craggy trout]

Waterfall is using log4j tho so ns

And yes, all 1.8+ got patched

[junior sequoia]

yeah, waterfall they already told me that

[junior sequoia]

really? it took a while then, cause in the days the exploit was exposed it hasn't

and i didn't see a announce, but my doubt was about waterfall

and they already tell me that it fix

[craggy trout]

md_5 fixed it long ago

wym

[junior sequoia]

the fix for log4j by jhdev release in the day of exploit or on a day later

[reef fulcrum]

Well, bungee doesn't use l4j

[junior sequoia]

the paper should have updated a week later i think

[reef fulcrum]

and many of the community fixes where naive and bypassable by a moron

[junior sequoia]

jhdev is a big developer

[craggy trout]

and

The thing here is that is fixed on bungee-waterfall/spiugot

[junior sequoia]

yeah i know that

[reef fulcrum]

being a big dev doesn't mean much

people rushed into patches for hyper specific things which where easily bypassed if you knew what you where doing

[junior sequoia]

well it made a fix and paper have said that wont made a fix for 1.8

but they chance their mind

[reef fulcrum]

thankfully, the exploit really wasn't used by many people whom knew about it

Well, yea, cos we wanted to kinda stand on our "these builds are unsupported and you are on your own" pledge

[junior sequoia]

better a 'bad' fix than nothing

but the log4j was fixed on jhdev release

anyway

[craggy trout]

Then just use jh_dev things, don't ask support here

[hazy sun]

Hi, Aikar flags are useful too for start waterfall ?

or is not needed?

[reef fulcrum]

No, see pins

[vernal arch]

waterfall or velocity?

[serene tide]

Velocity is generally the preferred choice.

[craggy trout]

If you dont have a large Network, and you like more bungeecord stay with waterfall

[marble kelp]

I wouldn't say that but ok lol

you never know how big you will grow

[vernal arch]

alr but for some reasons geyser don't work on waterfall

Everything is setuped properly tho

As i know how to setup geyser i have done setuping it many servers

But in the latest version of waterfall it dont work

Plugin works but people cant connect.

Checked firewall

[craggy trout]

any ways, waterfall can be splitted into multiple instances to balance the load so is cool if even the server of the guy grows.

[vernal arch]

Everything is fine.

[craggy trout]

Are you sure that you are using lastest geyser/floodgate version?

[vernal arch]

Yup

Using latest build

[craggy trout]

any log

[marble kelp]

@craggy trout thatdoesn't work around all the other potential issues it might have lol

[craggy trout]

what other "issues" can have using waterfall instead velocity?

[marble kelp]

certain crashes can't easily/reliably be fixed

[craggy trout]

what

"crashes", You mean exploits?

Velocity haves tho a lot of connection smashers than can easily drop it tho.

Not that easy, but basicly is an time thing

[marble kelp]

I mean... a ddos is a ddos, there's not 100% reliable way to prevent that but I'm talking about certain packets that aren't easily handled by bungee which velocity will handle better

[craggy trout]

Well handles better != crashes

Thats not really an bungeecord problem, mostly using a proper firewall and a good ddos mitigation level solution.

[marble kelp]

well yes, velocity wont crash when waterfall/bungee will. that's what I mean when I say "handle better" lmao

[craggy trout]

Then is not an "potential issue", it can be handled.

[marble kelp]

yes, it is handled by writing a fresh network stack, exactly what Velocity did

[craggy trout]

Velocity can be crashed with lot of bungeecord smashers, just harder.

[marble kelp]

you are free to integrate velocity's full network/packet handling into bungee or put the bungee api on top of velocity (which is what Snap does)

[craggy trout]

And when it happens and some guy opens an issue on github, the answer is "not a velocity issue, use a firewall" literaly.

So basicly same with waterfall.

[marble kelp]

again: a ddos and general overloading will always be possible

I'm talking about actual exploits in the code/with how it is designed, not a normal ddos lol

[craggy trout]

That's true, velocity does not have some exploits by the way is coded but are a lot more so is not really a deal.

[stuck delta]

How do i fix this?

[craggy trout]

Probably asking your hosting service, not related with waterfall.

[marble kelp]

use paper?

[twilit oxide]

Hi, would anyone know what would cause this at all?
[09:36:13] [Netty Worker IO Thread #5/INFO]: [bestieben|/IP] <-> ServerConnector [hub] has connected [09:36:13] [Netty Worker IO Thread #5/INFO]: [bestieben] disconnected with: multiplayer.disconnect.invalid_player_data

Happens to a lot of players sometimes then seems to fix itself.

[reef fulcrum]

not a waterfall issue

the server threw an exception, if paper, enable debug in server.properties if you keep seeing it

[twilit oxide]

ah ok, will do, just it only appears in the console for waterfall. Thanks electroniccat

[reef fulcrum]

hm, seems that they actually log that underlying error now without the debugging patch

at least in 1.19, no idea about older versions

"Couldn't place player in world"

[twilit oxide]

Ah so the debug won't do much then?

[ancient aurora]

whats error? my waterfall don`t startup

[reef fulcrum]

bad config

[stuck delta]

Another server can connect but bedwars can't, can someone tell me why

Online-mode already false bungeecord true

What makes it disconnected?

[stuck delta]

Nope nvm i find the problem

[zealous grail]

Why am I getting this error on the 1.19 waterfall?
https://nekobin.com/vafakoqada
the plugin is a simple bungee sudo command

I am looking at the code, there is nothing outdated or deprecated

at least nothing intellij reports on

[marble kelp]

you cannot use the .chat method with 1.19

as the server can't sign the chat with the player's key as that is unknown

[zealous grail]

oohhh I see it!

any alternatives?

[marble kelp]

(imo there should be a way added to force the sending of an usigned message but there isn't yet afaik)

really depends on what your goal is

if your goal is to send a message to the minecraft server like the player would then there is no way (besides not using 1.19 I guess)

you would have to do that from a plugin on the Minecraft-side

[zealous grail]

oh wow

okey then

I'll think of something else

[marble kelp]

that issue is actually one of the reasons I'm still on 1.18 waterfall with viaversion because I have plugins relying on that which I couldn't update yet -.-

[royal hawk]

Yea velocity just sends it as unsigned even if the server will eat it

Md just breaks api

[zealous grail]

wait valocity supports this functionality then?

[royal hawk]

Yes and no; it will send the message to the server, but the server will still swallow the message and display a warning

[zealous grail]

ah damn... no proxy sudo business for 1.19 people then

[royal hawk]

Not for chat anymore

Certain commands will still work

I mean all commands that don’t contain chat contents

Like /me or /tell or /tellraw

Any command that’s not subject to being signed because it’s chatlike

That will still work

[zealous grail]

all around me are familiar faces

[royal hawk]

I didn’t invent it, we just have to live with it

[zealous grail]

truth

[royal hawk]

I already found a ton of not so hilarious ways to break the client if you don’t follow what mojang intended

Currently the client can still display unsigned player chat messages

But I’m not sure for how long that will still work

[misty stirrup]

What was it?

[molten cedar]

BungeeAuth (version 1.4) dosen't work with Minecraft 1.19 client ?

[stuck delta]

secret

[trim frigate]

we've been having issue with an error since we updated waterfall
disconnected with: Kicked whilst connecting to hub: Your data is still loaded, please rejoin in a moment.
i saw a patch on papermc https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/8039
But i got some server in 1.18 and didnt want to update them, is this patch really what could fix this bug?
If so ill force update and delete the plugin that arent compatible in 1.19

Or is this a different issue related to waterfall? Would very much like to get help we've been stuck for more than a week this error seems to come randomly on random player and stop randomly too..

[royal hawk]

its a bug with a plugin on your server

[trim frigate]

we tried binary search but even with no plugin this error persist, here the github i openned

https://github.com/PaperMC/Waterfall/issues/761

i say in depth what we dit etc

[reef fulcrum]

Literally nothing to do with us

Only guess would be that you have a plugin which doesn't tolerate being behind a proxy

[pallid garnet]

I cant join my 1.19 waterfall server I am getting this error message

[tulip surge]

New_Text_Document.txt by @pallid garnet: https://paste.gg/ac9ea8bfb95640efbfe4dde6d23d4f45

[reef fulcrum]

tab needs updating

[misty stirrup]

I get this if i join a server, leave then quickly try to join a server again, is it to do with connection throttle in bukkit/spigot.yml on the server i'm trying to join?

[lunar plover]

Hey guys, has anyone had a problem updating from waterfall 1.18 to 1.19? I cant connect to any of my servers

(I was able to connect to my servers with 1.18 waterfall)

[craggy trout]

Probably is a plugin, update all before running lastest waterfall

[pallid garnet]

Damn I’m blind, thank you

[tidal musk]

https://paste.helpch.at/wuporemume.md pls help

[reef fulcrum]

speak to protocolise

[trim frigate]

we found the issue, it was the plugin PinPrompt on our proxy AND backend server, sorry for all this you were right

[tidal harness]

Hi, its good use aikars flags for waterfall server?

[reef fulcrum]

see pins

[tidal harness]

och okay

[slate moat]

Hey why is glist and luckperms outputting to my actionbar?

[odd hatch]

update via and or waterfall

i fixed it in velocity with a via update but i think waterfall has the solution natively

[slate moat]

Yeah still gettin the issue

[slate moat]

NVM

[obtuse shadow]

Make sure, you are using latest waterfall. Install latest ViaVersion dev build on your backend servers and problem should be solved

[teal wharf]

Where can i download Waterfall for 1.18.2 ?

because the latest version dont work only in 1.19

[reef fulcrum]

latest version works for 1.8-1.19

if you want specifically that version, you'd need to use the downloads API

[teal wharf]

but that returns me an error

[reef fulcrum]

what error?

[teal wharf]

I open a ticket ? or dm you ?

[reef fulcrum]

No

in here

[wise kite]

Please send large files/logs to a pastebin

[teal wharf]

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/65e236537be94349aea591b3cd378f34

[reef fulcrum]

update your plugins

[teal wharf]

[17:29:22 INFO]: [Anonym] disconnected with: Kicked whilst connecting to build: Unable to authenticate.

[reef fulcrum]

did you fix the error?

[teal wharf]

yes

but now we cant connect x)

[reef fulcrum]

then you'd need to work out what is up with bungeeguard

i.e. check the server logs

[teal wharf]

i update Bungeeguard

ah no its good

thanks

[craggy trout]

Viaversion, use lastest dev versión

[slate moat]

yeh my bad I was using the release instead of dev

[slate moat]

ohh ur the guy who makes nullexploif

[craggy trout]

Xd

[plain badge]

How to do anyone know how only redirect the server to lobby server ?

Only

[loud hemlock]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/990099820905627709/990211000353579048/unknown.png

any ideas what a fix for this is

[marble kelp]

sounds like something sent wrong data

make sure you have no plugin installed that messes with the packets (on the minecraft server)

[loud hemlock]

plugin in waterfall?

or survival?

[tough vale]

survival

[loud hemlock]

plugins isnt the issue

just checked

does waterfall support 1.19 connections yet?

[junior sequoia]

i can customize the messages of waterfall? like when you use /send on someone

[marble kelp]

@loud hemlock it does

@junior sequoia you can extract the messages.properties from the jar file and modify those values

[loud hemlock]

then im not sure whats causing that exception

[marble kelp]

@spare talon ask in #paper-help

[loud hemlock]

because its not a plugin

any other suggestions?

[marble kelp]

that is a latest 1.19 paper server and latest waterfall?

[loud hemlock]

updating waterfall now to test

fixed it ty

[shut summit]

Can i change the language file

for example the default message when the proxy stops

[royal hawk]

that one no, the rest of the messages are in the folder lang

you can set the end message with /end <message>

wait this is waterfall

🤦

[shut summit]

yes?

[reef fulcrum]

sir, ur drunk, go home

[shut summit]

imma try clone bungeecord and edit it

[reef fulcrum]

Yes, you can edit the messages file, you'd need to extract it from the jar and place it in the folder

[royal hawk]

ill go to bed now

[reef fulcrum]

some other stuff is exposed in the config

some is hardcoded

[shut summit]

so just messages.properties in my servers home dir

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[shut summit]

https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/edit/master/proxy/src/main/resources/messages.properties

Nice it works

Thanks

[winged epoch]

kicked whilst connecting to lobby: You are already connected to this proxy!

[winged epoch]

Hey can you help

[reef fulcrum]

no

Hint: The "lobby" kicked you, because you're already connected to the "proxy"

Don't connect the proxy to itself. Beyond that, rule 6.

[winged epoch]

So should I create another server in the node then?

Also the the other server which will be lobby do I have to install it to bungee as well or paper

[reef fulcrum]

Do not mention

You're trying to connect the proxy to itself

don't do that

[winged epoch]

this is the new error

oh yeah i forgot reply also mentions sry for that

[reef fulcrum]

as it says, a network issue occured, even gave you a list of stuff to check.

See the logs for more info about the network error.

[winged epoch]

hey i made 3 servers like 1 is proxy and other is lobby and other is survival

on which should i join

[unkempt girder]

Proxy

[winged epoch]

i am joining it but it shows this

[winged epoch]

are all the servers meant to be made with bungeecord?

[unkempt girder]

Not sure what you are exactly asking about, but not every server uses Bungeecord.

[winged epoch]

no like i made proxy with bungeecord and lobby and survival are paper

[reef fulcrum]

if using a hosting provider, speak to them

if self hosting on a dedi/vps, see the pins

[winged epoch]

on a vps

[reef fulcrum]

Please stop mentioning, and please read.

[winged epoch]

i dont see anything regarding this in pins

[tidal musk]

first item in the pins

the ptero docs

[winged epoch]

nvm ill just use multiverse

[solar sable]

I think then that it is the link with my website that makes these errors

So, do you know a way to hide this? Bcs it spams a lot x)

[reef fulcrum]

fix the issue or use a log folder, if you do the latter, don't ask us for support with connection issues, etc

[solar sable]

Oh, it's not a link with my website

bcs i have only link my website on paper servers, hmm

[lunar dragon]

[16:04:18 INFO]: [/---.--.---.---:-----|Propants05] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [lobby2] has disconnected
[16:04:18 WARN]: [/---.--.---.---:-----|Propants05] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [lobby] - could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(3) + length(18) exceeds writerIndex(4): PooledSlicedByteBuf(ridx: 3, widx: 4, cap: 4/4, unwrapped: PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 48, widx: 103, cap: 32768))

you can help me?

[reef fulcrum]

generally implies that something mangled a packet somewhere

[lunar dragon]

okay

[rapid crag]

Hi, when attempting to connect to my network, I cannot connect and get the following console message :

https://pastebin.com/aRMNXUfQ

I read that this may be an issue with ViaVersion and have removed all Via plugins on all servers and still receive the message and cannot join, any ideas?

[craggy trout]

I mean, viaversion shouldnt be wrong on backends

[shell wing]

-Dwaterfall.packet-decode-logging=true

what does this do?

[craggy trout]

For debug

[shell wing]

oh

[rapid crag]

yeah debug

[craggy trout]

More extent info, usefull to fix things

[shell wing]

oh I see thanks

[craggy trout]

Some empty packet?

Oh, none cant Connect

[reef fulcrum]

something caused an oversized handshake to be sent

[craggy trout]

Empty handshake 🥵 🥵

[reef fulcrum]

...

How do you come from "string too large" to "empty"

hostname is apparently too large

[craggy trout]

[reef fulcrum]

make sure that you don't have the proxy connecting to itself

[rapid crag]

I think this may be it, I had the proxy connecting to its own port as I had changed the ports and forgot to alter them in the config.

All fixed!

thank you guys 🙂

[solar sable]

@craggy trout we will continue the discussion here
Even without plugins I still get this error, even though nothing is related to the ip of my proxy

https://mclo.gs/IHiYxEc

[shell wing]

InitialHandler - corrupted frame: A packet could not be decoded because it was too large. For more information, launch Waterfall with -Dwaterfall.packet-decode-logging=true

how to fix this

I can join but my friend can't

[craggy trout]

Well, add that launch arg and say him try join, then send us the debug

[shell wing]

I am on a hosting, and I can't control the startup command

[craggy trout]

Then your host is. A shit

Most of hosts like that, can control startup.

I cant really help you without seeing the issue.

[shell wing]

ok I'll try to add it

[broken vortex]

i keep getting this error on the new update

[reef fulcrum]

nothing to do witht he update, bad config

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, as I said, something is creating bad connections to the proxy and not even closing them properly, thus leading to a timeout

work out what it is and fix it, or firewall it, or use a log filter to silence it (just, if using a log filter, don't ask for support for networking related stuff without disabling it)

[blazing kelp]

[18:54:11 INFO]: [PapaWulf] disconnected with: IllegalStateException : Too many registered channels. This limit can be configured in the waterfall.yml
which config option would it be?

[reef fulcrum]

it's the channel limit one

not the length one

[blazing kelp]

tyty, i was being dumb and inside the config.yml

[indigo tundra]

https://pastebin.com/UDrKLkGT having this error when joining my 1.19 server through the proxy, however the 1.18 servers in the proxy are working completely fine

using latest waterfall and latest purpur on the 1.19 server

[reef fulcrum]

probs outdated plugin

[indigo tundra]

kk

[royal hawk]

Your Resourcepack plugin is broken

[indigo tundra]

okay ill give that a try thanks

[indigo tundra]

Thanks it worked

[graceful pasture]

How do I get waterfall version 1.16? It doesn't appear on the page but I need it

could you pass it to me please?

@royal hawk do you know where to get it?

[royal hawk]

Don’t ping staff directly. The latest version of waterfall supports 1.8-1.19 which includes 1.16 so there’s no reason to run an ancient revision

[royal hawk]

Waterfall is like bungeecord on a rolling release system. Once a new revision releases there isn’t any more support for older revisions.
If you’re absolutely set on running an old revision from the 1.16 days you need to be aware that this version doesn’t have fixes for critical issues like the log4j bug so we highly advise against it

[graceful pasture]

but my question is, if I have a server with 1.19 it will work the same as 1.16 because I am following a tutorial and in the tutorial they put 1.16

[royal hawk]

Waterfall doesn’t change anything about your game version
1.19 client will work with a 1.19 server
1.16 client will work with a 1.16 server
I’m a bit confused about what you’re asking

[thorny surge]

I keep getting this error after updating my 1.18 to 1.19 (through waterfall server)

Jun 27 01:57:53 Homeserver2 java[141075]: [01:57:53 WARN]: [/IPHIDDEN|Sulack] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [ScrubCraft] - could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(4) + length(2306) exceeds writerInde
x(5): PooledSlicedByteBuf(ridx: 4, widx: 5, cap: 5/5, unwrapped: PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 47534, widx: 59899, cap: 65536))
Jun 27 01:57:53 Homeserver2 java[141075]: [01:57:53 INFO]: [Sulack] disconnected with: The server you were previously on went down, you have been connected to a fallback server

Any one have any ideas?

[graceful pasture]

I am following a tutorial in which they use 1.16 to create Network and I don't know if I have to use the same one or if it works with this

[royal hawk]

It works with this.

[royal hawk]

Caused by a broken plugin messing with internals

[thorny surge]

Is this 100% sure? It works without the waterfall proxy. As soon as I enable it, it has this issue.

[royal hawk]

Do you have any plugins on the proxy?

[thorny surge]

Yes a few, Ill disable them

[thorny surge]

Fixed thanks!

[lethal wharf]

how to fix https://pastebin.com/6cZPkr0i

i have bungeeguard on my server

[lethal wharf]

everytime i join this error appears and i get timed out or disconnected

[royal hawk]

update bungeeguard

[lethal wharf]

wait

ty it works now

[lofty wadi]

i'm getting this error? just switched from bungeecord to waterfall and made an clean install. 🤔
https://mcpaste.io/5c1803799ece22f2

[reef fulcrum]

bad config

[lofty wadi]

config:
https://mcpaste.io/442ccdc1741adea3

[reef fulcrum]

falsee

[lofty wadi]

woah.. 😅 i'm feeling dumb now ngl

[fading hound]

Players are intermittently unable to connect on 1.19 client. The message they get is just "Disconnected"

I'm getting this error in the console when they attempt to join. [/IP Redacted] <-> InitialHandler - could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(10) + length(1) exceeds writerIndex(10): PooledSlicedByteBuf(ridx: 10, widx: 10, cap: 10/10, unwrapped: PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 220, widx: 1039, cap: 2048))

Edit: fixed error being cut off

[craggy trout]

Update your plugins

[astral spade]

Error occurred processing connection for <playername> ConnectTimeoutException : connection timed out: /<serveripwithport>

It shows up in the proxy console when I try to connect to my game mode servers.

Which stops me from connecting.

[reef fulcrum]

all we can tell you is what it says

check your network setup, etc

[astral spade]

Ok

[fading hound]

All updated. No change

[royal hawk]

Remove plugins till it stops happening

It is definitely a plugin issue

[south crown]

How to download older version of waterfall? i want 1.17 but i cant find it on papermc site

[unkempt girder]

Why would you want older version? Latest one should support most minecraft versions (assume smt like 1.8+)

[south crown]

Oh, so if it says 1.19 in the file name, i still can host the lobby for players with 1.17?

because my main mode is on 1.17.1

[unkempt girder]

You should be able to

[south crown]

Another problem, when i created my lobby etc. i connected to one of my servers when i was on the lobby, now everytime i connect through waterfall i automatically join previously mentioned server

i can't even see the lobby because i get auto connected to my survival

[unkempt girder]

Assume you have bungeecord reconnect module

[south crown]

Can you explain, please?

i touch such an option

yeah

there is something like that

• jenkins://reconnect_yaml

should i delete this line?

[unkempt girder]

There should be folder that contains various modules, in it there should be reconnect one, you can remove it, and then there was a config, remove it from it also

[south crown]

Alright, i will try

[paper cloak]

im having issues i think its with waterfall that its not showing any players online when there is players on??

[ornate viper]

Anyone know what this means?

[ornate viper]

figured it out... tab plugin issue

[long jetty]

can someone tell me what this means ?
https://pastebin.com/DVatjF1D

[royal hawk]

Multichat plugin is broken

[long jetty]

Shiet

[south crown]

Hey it seems Waterfall doesn't want to teamwork

i uploaded plugins like pistonmotd, skinrestorer to all my servers

they all loaded but nothing happens, after restarts too

after typing /skin nothing happens

[reef fulcrum]

skinrestorer relies on the tablist rewriting mess which you can enable in waterfall.yml

[reef fulcrum]

enable ping passthrough if you want the server to respond to pings

[reef fulcrum]

I mea, if the plugin is installed on the backend server, am not sure if that matters

[south crown]

Well

both plugins dont work

even if installed on all servers

Pistonmotd doesn't change anything but loads

[reef fulcrum]

make sure that ping passthrough is enabled

[south crown]

skinrestorer, same situation

[reef fulcrum]

and idk about skin restorer if it's installed on just the servers

[south crown]

Can you tell me where is it?

[reef fulcrum]

in config.yml

[south crown]

I enabled it

i will check now

Looks like nothing changed

i used waterfall before and i believe it worked pretty well

[reef fulcrum]

make sure that you reloaded/restarted the proxy

otherwise, maaaybe needs force_default to work properly, I don't remember 100%

advice has generally always been to let the proxy deal with the MOTD as then it can show the global player count, etc

[south crown]

I restarted all my servers.

im using VPS, not my own computer

Yeah, i will just switch to Flamecord

i've had pretty much enough

[royal hawk]

…. which is based on waterfall

[craggy trout]

I suggest you changeskin instead, and use the native motd or cleanmotd

[craggy trout]

Why?

I mean flamecord Will not Fix your issue, the upstream is Waterfall.

[reef fulcrum]

They left

[craggy trout]

I see, i hate this people

[steep wharf]

using haproxy, while setting backward server address to localhost:port

It can be used normally after setting localhost to a ip

[craggy trout]

Enabled proxy protocol?

[steep wharf]

yep

latest version

[ancient aurora]

i using 1.19-40

I stopping here

[royal hawk]

Your proxy is simply not reachable. Check it with a tool like mcstatus or if it’s a public server ping it with https://mcsrvstat.us
If pinging the server is possible then I suspect your connection has too many hops

[surreal basalt]

Can anyone explain to me why I can't join my waterfall server through 1.8.9 using my domain, where as it works perfectly fine on 1.18.2 and 1.19??? on 1.8.9 I just get Java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: no further information and when connecting directly through the ip:25577, it works perfectly fine. I'm using port 25577 on this server

mcsrvstat.us result

[royal hawk]

Sounds to me like you have an invalid SRV record

SRV records can only have A-records as target on the same domain to be valid

[surreal basalt]

it's wierd, as it works 100% on different minecraft versions

[royal hawk]

Click on debug info there

[royal hawk]

That doesn’t make it right, just because it happens to work there doesn’t guarantee anything

[royal hawk]

Is the SRV record name the same as the target

[craggy trout]

Lmao secret, a simple ICMP ping would reveal the address if is not backed on a reverse thingy xf

[royal hawk]

Like an SRV for play.example.com
should be pointed to an A record named play.example.com

[royal hawk]

And that 1.8 client isn’t modified?

[surreal basalt]

nope

it doesn't make sense at all

[woven bison]

I have a question, for what version is it best to do bungeecord?

[surreal stream]

every version

except the versions under 1.8

[woven bison]

where can I download the version with 1.18.2?

[reef fulcrum]

you'd need to use the downloads API

[woven bison]

Because some plugins don't work on the latest one

[reef fulcrum]

or, just use the latest, it supports 1.8+

I mean, if your plugins haven't updated already...

[woven bison]

how to use it?

[reef fulcrum]

what?

[woven bison]

I meant

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, you're generally kinda on your own there

https://api.papermc.io

[woven bison]

;/

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, if using unsupported software, generally you're expected to be able to like, do stuff

lazy advice: build numbers don't reset, you can keep clicking more until you find the first 1.19 build, the 1.18 waterfall build should be a number or two before that

[woven bison]

Too bad you don't make older versions available :/

[reef fulcrum]

They're literally on the API

I literally just explained the lazy way to do it

[craggy trout]

Then use updated plugins , dont be ass

[woven bison]

I cannot use the updated plug-ins because they have not been updated. Use your brain

Otherwise, I would have done it long ago

[reef fulcrum]

I mean

1. I've explained how to get the older version ez

literally even tested it, copy the first build for 1.19's url, and drop 1.19 to 1.18, and drop the build # by 1, ez worked

2. if your plugins haven't updated yet for the "trivial" internal change, outside of, make sure that you're looking for dev builds, they're probably dead, you'd be stupid to start a foundation on dead plugins

[woven bison]

thx

[craggy trout]

Please, use yours and at if you use outdated things at least take carne About using updated software

I see really stupid use an outdated proxy, only for some plugin that by sure you can get some other.

[woven bison]

Just that it is my business what I use, I just asked how to download an older engine and that's it

Needlessly interjecting yourself into the conversation

[craggy trout]

Well they said you, plus is a recommendation also if you read on papermc web you wont get support for legacy builds

And this is a public chat, so i can give my opinion ig, gl

[shell sparrow]

why is this not opening?

[steel surge]

Try adding pause to the bottom

your waterfall.jar might be named waterfall.jar.jar since all other extensions are hidden if I had to guess

[shell sparrow]

yea that worked, and do you maybe know which ip do i need to use to join it from localhost?

[steel surge]

either enter localhost or 127.0.0.1 as the ip

[shell sparrow]

It says this, and I have enabled it already

[steel surge]

set ip_forward to true in your bungee config.yml

[shell sparrow]

i have it already

[reef fulcrum]

You need to connect to waterfall, not the individual server

[shell sparrow]

yea, i got it now, i used another port

[ionic tinsel]

CommandSender.sendMessage() does this now send things to the action bar instead of normal chat?

in 1.19

[brave gate]

^ this is a bungee-side chat system btw

i've noticed all uses of commandsender.sendMessage() show up in the actionbar but only for 1.19

[wise needle]

where can I find waterfall plugins ?

[reef fulcrum]

Waterfall just mostly uses bungee plugins

Cryptic, best guess, update via.

[craggy trout]

Also remember to use dev branch of viaversion if you are using it

[brave gate]

the backend servers dont have this problem, only the proxy. we havent put viaversion on the proxy either

[shell flint]

Does anyone know if it's possible to make it so when a server goes down it redirects all online players to the 'lobby' for example?

[marble kelp]

would require a plugin to do that

e.g. HubKick (a very old but still functioning plugin) or my own KickInfo (which has a bit more advanced, automatic logic)

[craggy trout]

I mean on backends not on proxy, vía wont work either on bungee

[shell flint]

Would you mind sending me a link to the KickInfo one? I can't find it

[brave gate]

would updating viaversion on the backends change something on the proxy?

[reef fulcrum]

Bungee (and current velocity builds) don't handle the chat registry at all, and rely on the vanilla servers registry IDs for over the pipe for stuff

the release build of via broke that expectation and thus causes issues

via, in the dev builds, uses a more "correct" registry now, which fixes that issue

[brave gate]

interesting, thanks for your help. ill update via to the latest dev build when i can

[uneven trout]

is it possible to make a waterfall server from a server you already made??🙃

[reef fulcrum]

Yes, you just follow the install instructions for bungee as per usual

[meager dagger]

Hello there guys!

could someone tip me, to which direction should I google:

I'm using MySQL Player Data Bridge to transfer player's data from one server to another.

**How can I make maps works correctly? **
Like on one server, users can create a map arts, and then go to second server and use them! Is it possible to achieve?

upd: current flow: map, created on first server, just "blank" when entering another server.

[craggy trout]

I thing that this is better cross-server with Mongo

[meager dagger]

as a bit a programmer I also know that mongo DB is a quite better then mysql, but mentioned MySQL Player Data Bridge is a plugin that works and could be set up in a few clicks so.. 👌🏻 😅

[reef fulcrum]

You'd need to speak to the plugin dev to deal with maps

the way maps work basically suck ass, however

[slate slate]

everything in my bungee is setup correctly

but i cant switch servers

it says could not connect to default or fallback server : Incorrectly configured address/port/firewall

bungeecord is true in spigot.yml and the server address is true, the servers are online still why does this happen

[reef fulcrum]

Bungee cord mode is irrelevant

The proxy can't open a connection to the actual backend server, such things are often setup issues, if ptero, see pins, of same machine (and not using containers), use localhost, if using a host, speak to them

[slate slate]

okay im speaking to my hosting provider, thanks

and uh

when i try to switch server

bungeecord console doesnt show it like Server connector [survival] has disconnected

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, it didn't get that far

[slate slate]

yeah

[spark brook]

Hey guys, waterfall 1.19 is stable?

[royal hawk]

As stable as it’s gonna get

[uneven trout]

Thank you 🙂

[autumn oxide]

Did anyone had or has any problem with RAM in Pterodactyl with the Proxy Server?

It always reset due to reaching the max memory, which this never happened to me with Multicraft

Ideas? 🥲

[cedar delta]

install more ram ?

increase the swap size ?

[autumn oxide]

I have this in the Startup Command

Right now it has 1GB of RAM

[royal hawk]

Don’t assign more than you have

You always need to calculate the Xmx as memory you have + 10%

[autumn oxide]

So for example, if I have 512 MB of RAM in the server, Xmx should be 564M for example? What about Xms?

[calm ether]

no the opposite

[autumn oxide]

Oh, so with this in Xmx it should never reach out more than 512 MB right?

[calm ether]

yes

[autumn oxide]

But it could lead to a crash as well?

[calm ether]

keep in mind that java will always use a little more than Xmx

[autumn oxide]

I see, but what about Xms, what is this used exactly for?

[calm ether]

that's the amount of ram that will be allocated at start

[autumn oxide]

To start the server right?

[calm ether]

with this small amount you can match Xms and Xmx

[autumn oxide]

I see, thank you very much!

[lost juniper]

hello. Im having a very weird issue that when u login to my network. I can login to hubs fine but any other server connected to my bungeecord. It shows im connecting then getting sent back to the hub in bungee console but nothing about my trying to connect in my other server and its just keeping my in the hub

any idea why this is happening?

but /send works fine

just cannot join by using /server or my queue plugin

and for some reason all bungee related messages are showing in an action bar only

[fast lark]

Is there a "latest" download link for Waterfall? Wanting to automate updates a bit

[surreal stream]

No but if you're using bash or something like that, then you can use jq to get the builds. I can send you a script where this was thing made by another user

[sharp glade]

Got this error when trying to join the backend server
Internal Exception: io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: java.io.IOException: Packet 0/0 (ClientboundAddEntityPacket) was larger than I expected, found 5 bytes extra whilst reading packet 0The backend server was on 1.19 and waterfall on the latest update available on website, just to make clear i removed all plugins on backend and waterfall (to avoid this issue may come from the plugin) except ViaVersion and ViaBackward (On the latest stable version), No error logs either on waterfall or the backend server itself

[craggy trout]

Try viaversion, but dev build

https://ci.viaversion.com/view/ViaVersion/job/ViaVersion-DEV/
https://ci.viaversion.com/view/ViaBackwards/job/ViaBackwards-DEV/

[sharp glade]

dayum, thank you...

its work, tysm....

[craggy trout]

[dawn sun]

Does anyone know how I can fix this error that gives me when entering from the IP of the waterfall?

[reef fulcrum]

see the logs

the proxy can't connect to your backend server

[dawn sun]

That I did and it gives me that error, I am sure that I place the IPs of the other servers well and that the config is well cast, and I do not know what my error is

[reef fulcrum]

if ptero, see pins

if using a host, speak to them

otherwise, something is wrong with the network setup, if same machine, use loopback, but, that's a network issue generally

[sharp glade]

i still encountered some problem about this thing on my 1.19 backend server, some of the user cant join the server because of this, even when they using the same version (1.19) with the people that can join but some of them cant join the backend server, any way to fix this? this maybe caused by discordsrv because i enabled the whitelist system, but if people not whitelistin their account they have a chance to get this error when joining the servers...

[craggy trout]

Update all your plugins, if they don't have support for 1.19, just delete them and use viaversion/viarw dev build

[elder arrow]

Somehow since 1.19 if I log in, I'm not connected to the server where I logged out

[marble kelp]

did you change the force_default_server config option?

[elder arrow]

Still the same:
force_default_server: false

The thing is

I will ALWAYS be connected to the server I logged out of before the update.

Also tied to the IP. So this is actually just no longer updated.

[reef fulcrum]

'electronicboy;localhost:25577': main

eer...

[elder arrow]

Ehm nope

Not like this haha

[reef fulcrum]

No, I mean, that's how it stores the data

username;hostname

I'm not aware of any changes to that mess, however

[elder arrow]

Which means?

[reef fulcrum]

I know spigot adopted some change we did time ago, but, I'm not aware of any real changes there

The thing stores the last server you logged out of against the username and the hostname that the person used to connect

[elder arrow]

'Ceddix;***.de:25565': event

But I do not end up on that server 🤔

[reef fulcrum]

check the file for other entries

plugins can also ez break that

outside of config options like force default, etc

[elder arrow]

I'm confused. Event the forced_hosts don't work anymore

[reef fulcrum]

check plugins

[elder arrow]

What exactly should I look for?

[reef fulcrum]

idk

I'm not aware of how the logic would break unless it was creating extra entries in the locations file

[elder arrow]

No wait. Now I've confused myself. So, with the IP I use to join, I end up on the server that is in the file. But if I disconnect to another server and then join again, I still end up on the server from before. This means that the file is simply not rewritten.

[reef fulcrum]

check your logs, etc

that file is only saved on shutdown

oh, saved every 5 minutes too

[elder arrow]

[16:43:40] [Shutdown Thread/INFO]: Saving reconnect locations

But no error

I tried deleting the file and it still doesn't work

[reef fulcrum]

is the file recreated?

[elder arrow]

Yeah

But it still has no content since then.

So somehow the file doesn't change currently

[reef fulcrum]

at this point I have no idea, like, the info is set when the player disconnects

and is saved every 5 minutes or on shutdown

We've been using that thing for years with 0 issues, and every issue we've traced down with it has generally been down to plugins interferring with the process, so, idk

[elder arrow]

It has actually always worked for us up to now

It's just kind of broken since the update

[reef fulcrum]

nothing really changed in the update is the thing

[elder arrow]

except that I have a new chat plugin and a new join/leave message plugin, I don't really have anything changed either

The only plugin that could cause problems is our teleport plugin, I'll have a look

Does it work for you?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[elder arrow]

strange

That even the forced hosts don't work

[final trail]

I hope someone can confirm this
https://github.com/PaperMC/Waterfall/issues/763

[reef fulcrum]

in 1.13+, the way tab completion works completely changed

now the proxy sends the full command structure to the client

it's 100% on plugins, etc, to deal with perms properly

[thorny ridge]

How do I get access to older Waterfall builds than the site shows? I want Build 488

[reef fulcrum]

use the downloads API

[tidal musk]

can someone help me out, i have a server using waterfall and theres two others spigot/paper servers running on that and when i connect to the lobby its all fine but when i connect to the second gamemode it's like im in the sky and cant move at all but my bossbar from the lobby somehow transferred over to the second gamemode and i tested everything and it turned out to be because of waterfall

just seen above that TAB is broken

thats probably why...

[patent hazel]

where do i find velocity plugins?

[steel surge]

https://forums.papermc.io/forums/velocity-plugin-releases/, or also on hangar when it releases

also #velocity-help

[reef fulcrum]

that's what ip forwarding is for

it forwards the IP and the UUID of the player

[modern sinew]

How do I solve lag cause by waterfall?

[royal hawk]

Waterfall doesn’t/can’t inherently cause lag.
Why don’t you rephrase your issue to more accurately reflect the problem you’re dealing with?

[modern sinew]

Connecting to the server directly has normal ping but when connecting with waterfall all of my players and I get up to 2000 ping

[tough vale]

Is the waterfall instance located on the same machine as the backends, same general location, or different location?

[modern sinew]

They are on the same machine

[royal hawk]

Does it actually convey?

Aka does it actually feel like 2 seconds of delay

[modern sinew]

Yes

Its more like 10 to 20 seconds

[reef fulcrum]

does reconnecting magically fix it?

[modern sinew]

No

The server im connecting to is fine on ram too

[reef fulcrum]

No idea, theres been a somewhat loooooong standing issue going back years where in some cases bungee just completely kills the network performance for some people

[royal hawk]

You sure you aren’t overburdening your server cpu?

[modern sinew]

CPU is fine

[royal hawk]

And your setup on the same machine is a proxy and only one server?

Waterfall takes a rather small amount of resources itself

Just so we are on the same page and your testing isn’t one vs many servers + proxy

[modern sinew]

I have many servers connected to this proxy. It only affects about 3 of the servers though

[royal hawk]

if youd directly connect to those servers with every other server and the proxy running

Does it happen then?

If yes then you have a hardware bottleneck

[modern sinew]

No. This doesnt happen when proxy is online and directly connecting