#waterfall-help | PaperMC | Page 54

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:19 AM

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like how do I get skins

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:19 AM

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spigot.yml on all the servers

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:20 AM

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do I need to do anything for plugins

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:20 AM

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no

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:20 AM

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if I ban someone where would they be banned from

royal hawk Mar 26, 2021, 8:20 AM

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Only that server

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:20 AM

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no

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:20 AM

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would they be banned from that specific server or from bungee entirely

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:20 AM

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You'd need a plugin if you wanted global bans

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:20 AM

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kk

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I'm using litebans rn and Imma look into how to use it

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with bungee

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does waterfall need a high ram?

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like in the startup options

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:28 AM

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no

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most memory you care about is off-heap, most waterfall servers run sub 1G of ram

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:29 AM

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ahh I see

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so the rams would be taken from the server themselves

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so what do I add in the start script

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:30 AM

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pins

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:30 AM

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java -jar -Xmx1G ./waterfall.jar?

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found it

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how do you restart bungee?

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the command

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:32 AM

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end to stop the proxy

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restarting it is on you

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:32 AM

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so there's no one command to do that

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k

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:32 AM

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no

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:35 AM

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should waterfall be run on a different device or the same device as the servers

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wait what address already in use?

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but non of the servers have started yet

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how do you check like which port is being used by which process?

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wait a minute

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you can't bind to 0.0.0.0 right

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:42 AM

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yes you can

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lsof -i for checking what's listening on the network

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:42 AM

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[16:41:38 WARN]: Could not bind to host /0.0.0.0:25565
java.net.BindException: Address already in use: bind
so this means something is taking up 25565

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:42 AM

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yes

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probs your actual server

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:43 AM

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nothing is on

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no server has started

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:43 AM

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reef fulcrum `lsof -i` for checking what's listening on the network

plz gibe windows command XD

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:44 AM

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Please don't ping

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god knows

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netstat? 🤷‍♂️

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:44 AM

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developing on windows is easier ok I'm used to it dont judge

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oh no reply pings either?

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kk

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bruhhh

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why does everything has to take 25565

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it's the freaking wacom tablet

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now it's asus armoury

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when will it end

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is there why people have dedicated developing computers

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:50 AM

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in part, yea

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:51 AM

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CAN NOT OBTAIN OWNERSHIP INFORMATION

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how does that work

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just nothing is using it but it's being used?

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is there some other address I can bind it to and doesn't require the players to specify a port?

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:53 AM

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no

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:53 AM

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only 0.0.0.0:25565?

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:53 AM

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i mean, you can try assigning to the LAN ip, but, gotta be port 25565

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:53 AM

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cool imma see

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oh can I do 127.0.0.1:25565?

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the loopback address

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:54 AM

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no

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:55 AM

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still nope

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what if I set bind local address to false

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what does it do

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:57 AM

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it, erm, binds on a local host, afaik

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:57 AM

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ok nvm it doesn't affect the host option

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can I do public address:25565

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:57 AM

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thiink that there was some oddities with that option a while ago

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:57 AM

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or would that break things

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 8:58 AM

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your pc doesn't have the public IP address on it

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 8:58 AM

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right

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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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now wtf is THIS

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  TCP    0.0.0.0:25565          DESKTOP-RP14TS0:0      LISTENING

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it's just the windows OS?

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why is there a random javaw running that's taking up 25565 ahhhh

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holy sh*t finally after killing dozens of process

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wait what is ip forwarding

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i know port forwarding

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what is ip forwarding

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https://L.hypixel.gg/‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌

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Uploaded at 3/26/2021, 9:05:05 AM by shuaiouke

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 9:05 AM

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bungee needs to forward the ip/uuid of the user

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 9:05 AM

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then why would it be optional at all

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 9:05 AM

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vanilla

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 9:06 AM

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wot

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you mean like you dont need ip forward if youre proxying to a vanilla server?

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 9:06 AM

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more, you can't, the protocol doesn't support it so you can't join a vanilla server with ip forwarding

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 9:07 AM

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bruh

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so you can't have a bungeecord connect to both vanilla and spigot/paper server?

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 9:07 AM

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there's a magical tool to shim support into the vanilla server, as well as fabriccord iirc

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 9:07 AM

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or you do need something like nested bungee

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would that work actually I'm kinda curious

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like a bungee server proxying to multiple bungee servers

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 9:09 AM

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not supported, proxy in proxy is dumb and causes issues

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 9:09 AM

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but like would it work technically

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I can't think of a situation where that would be usful but I'm curious

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 9:09 AM

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technically it would work

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 9:11 AM

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can bungee be used to improve latency?

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 9:11 AM

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no

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 9:11 AM

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even when used as like a mid-way station?

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 9:11 AM

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soooome very niche cases where it can, but, 99% of installs, it's gonna add latency

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you've still gotta traverse over the network

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 9:12 AM

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like server in canada/US and bungee in EU and player in australia

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 9:12 AM

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Basically, it's all down to routing

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in some cases, hosting a proxy elsewhere can gain better latency due to better routing

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 9:13 AM

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cause like the isp?

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 9:13 AM

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but, that's shit that you've actually gotta consider, otherwise you generally just make it worse

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 9:13 AM

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damn

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 9:13 AM

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at the end of the day, that data has to go over the internet, chances are AUS > US would be better going between there vs into the EU, as they're gonna be sharing the same routes generally and you're either gonna be going across the entire EU, or, they're just gonna send it back that way

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 9:14 AM

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how do I make signs / buttons ect send players to a different server

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 9:14 AM

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you'd need a plugin for that

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 9:15 AM

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a plugin like?

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 9:15 AM

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🤷‍♂️

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 9:16 AM

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like what function do I need from a plugin

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 9:16 AM

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you need to to specifically support what you're asking

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it needs to actually have the capacity to interact with the proxy

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 9:17 AM

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I just simply want a lobby that sends players to different servers depending on what sign they click on

prisma whale Mar 26, 2021, 10:51 AM

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https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/bungeesigns.6563/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

BungeeSigns

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@oblique obsidian

oblique obsidian Mar 26, 2021, 10:52 AM

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I found this like 30m ago already but thx :P

smoky hornet Mar 26, 2021, 1:09 PM

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It seems I am being rate-limited by Mojang.
connection timed out: sessionserver.mojang.com/143.204.212.175:443
Cannot ping sessionserver.mojang.com (143.204.212.175) from main Waterfall machine, but from any of my other machines I have to issues with that particular IP/the DNS.

Anyone who has any idea what to do about this?

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Rate limit has been going on for atleast 30 minutes now where we haven't been able to authenticate users.
Also tried restarting the proxy + enabling/disabling Nette resolver.

royal hawk Mar 26, 2021, 1:23 PM

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Session servers will block you if you send too many requests. You can check the quota you’re allowed in the header of the connection response- but in this case- the session servers have been funky the past few days

smoky hornet Mar 26, 2021, 1:24 PM

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Ok, but what can I do to work around this issue?

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If anything then o.O

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Been completely blocked for more than an hour atm.

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Wanted to try and see if I could force the resolve of sessionserver.mojang.com to another of their IPs but I haven't been able to yet.

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@royal hawk

tidal musk Mar 26, 2021, 1:33 PM

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Hey what is it this

"Forced host server pvp is not defined" I don't really undestand what this means. Not nessesarily the defining part, but what the PVP Server actually is. I removed it from the waterfall config. Anyone got any ideas?

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 1:36 PM

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it's just an example

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generally, most people ignore it

royal hawk Mar 26, 2021, 1:42 PM

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smoky hornet Ok, but what can I do to work around this issue?

GET https://status.mojang.com/check

RESPONSE (json/url):
[
  {"minecraft.net":"green"},
  {"session.minecraft.net":"green"},
  {"account.mojang.com":"green"},
  {"authserver.mojang.com":"green"},
  {"sessionserver.mojang.com":"red"},
  {"api.mojang.com":"green"},
  {"textures.minecraft.net":"green"},
  {"mojang.com":"green"}
]

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Session servers are literally down at the moment

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Unless you're a big network there is no easy way around it.

smoky hornet Mar 26, 2021, 1:48 PM

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But I don't think they are?
https://pings.playlegend.net/

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I see no other outages etc @royal hawk

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I just think the IP that google/cloudflare dns nameservers lead to may be offline

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143.204.142.175

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 1:50 PM

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the IPs change often

smoky hornet Mar 26, 2021, 1:50 PM

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Yes I am aware

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 1:50 PM

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you can try disabling async dns in waterfall.yml, that will make it use your hosts DNS stack through java

smoky hornet Mar 26, 2021, 1:50 PM

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Why I wanted to try and force a resolve to a specific IP that I can connect to

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I did try both :/

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On a dedicated machine, using Google DNS

reef fulcrum Mar 26, 2021, 1:51 PM

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netty dns already uses google DNS, so

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if you disable netty's, could shove an entry in /etc/hosts, but, not generally a good idea

smoky hornet Mar 26, 2021, 1:51 PM

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I did try that and it just wouldn't work

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143.294.242.91 sessionserver.mojang.com

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Nvm actually made it work, just needed 1 space

olive skiff Mar 26, 2021, 4:58 PM

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why i got 127.0.0.1 ping

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[11:56:01 INFO]: [/127.0.0.1:25565] <-> InitialHandler has pinged
[11:56:05 INFO]: [/127.0.0.1:25565] <-> InitialHandler has pinged
[11:56:09 INFO]: [/127.0.0.1:25565] <-> InitialHandler has pinged
[11:56:38 INFO]: [/127.0.0.1:25565] <-> InitialHandler has pinged
[11:57:21 INFO]: [/127.0.0.1:25565] <-> InitialHandler has pinged
[11:58:02 INFO]: [/127.0.0.1:25565] <-> InitialHandler has pinged
[11:58:06 INFO]: [/127.0.0.1:25565] <-> InitialHandler has pinged
[11:58:09 INFO]: [/127.0.0.1:25565] <-> InitialHandler has pinged

ebon plover Mar 27, 2021, 1:36 AM

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Hello! So the thing is that I've set up a Waterfall Bungeecord and suddenly in game chat not working, cant type commands or anything.
Just from console
sudoing to chat works
and every command from console
why is that?
can somebody help me?

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 1:36 AM

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did you setup ip forwarding properly, etc?

ebon plover Mar 27, 2021, 1:37 AM

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I don't know.

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THis is my first time with bungeecord

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May I send you my config?

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I only have just one server connected to it for protection and future projects.

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 1:37 AM

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See the bungee installation guide, you need to ensure that you enable bungee mode in spigot.yml

ebon plover Mar 27, 2021, 1:37 AM

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bungeecord is set to true in spigot.yml.

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 1:38 AM

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can you replicate it without plugins on the backend server?

ebon plover Mar 27, 2021, 1:38 AM

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https://pastebin.com/2RPivpqb

Pastebin

listeners:- query_port: 8215 motd: '&1Another Bungee server' tab_...

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

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THis is my config.

ebon plover Mar 27, 2021, 1:39 AM

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reef fulcrum can you replicate it without plugins on the backend server?

Umm, I don't know what that means.

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 1:39 AM

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test without plugins on the actual server

ebon plover Mar 27, 2021, 1:39 AM

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Okay

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 1:39 AM

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the server itself doesn't care if you're behind bungee as it doesn't know about it

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there are some plugins which can derp when you do such stuff, however

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was your server in online mode or offline mode before you migrated?

ebon plover Mar 27, 2021, 1:40 AM

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offline

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My main server is offline

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as well as bungee

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It works without plugins

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so its not a bungee fault

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but my server

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has problems

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I'm going to put the plugins in 1 by 1

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Found the problem!

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The problem was the BotSentry plugin.

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Thanks for your time.

white nova Mar 27, 2021, 2:55 AM

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im getting a lot of this posted in the console [22:54:53 WARN]: Query - Incorrect magic!: /<pingers ip>

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whenever an ip pings the server

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can i get some help?

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 2:55 AM

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disable the query protocol or use a firewall

nocturne fog Mar 27, 2021, 3:09 AM

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thats not remotely waterfall related. Go to #paper-help and provide some more info

tidal musk Mar 27, 2021, 4:20 AM

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Are there any disadvantages to using Tavertine over Waterfall?

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 4:49 AM

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I care about it less

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beyond that, and potential issues with plugins not expecting 1.7.10, it's generally fine

tidal musk Mar 27, 2021, 4:54 AM

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Ok thanks

loud tendon Mar 27, 2021, 8:00 AM

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Hello guys.
Im having some weirld issue
I've a create a spgiot server with no bungeconnect connection, the time to login is like 1/2 seconds.
I've create a waterfall, and it takes 8-10 seconds to log in in where it says "Encrpyting connection"
This happen only with bungecord, no matter if there is a server linked to the bunge.
Im not using any plugin at the bungecoord.
I tried running the server as root or in the user but wont change.
What can it be?

delicate phoenix Mar 27, 2021, 8:17 AM

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Hello!

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Encrypting will take time obviusly, but 8-10 sec isn't that much of a login time if you have a lot of players on, and your cpu is stressed.

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Try doing the same thing locally or with a not even used cpu and check if the issue still happens with velocity.

loud tendon Mar 27, 2021, 8:19 AM

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I already founf the issiue.

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zzzCat (Don't ping) — 27/07/2019
waterfall.yml disable the dns one

delicate phoenix Mar 27, 2021, 8:19 AM

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Ah 👍

loud tendon Mar 27, 2021, 8:19 AM

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god bless discord searcher

delicate phoenix Mar 27, 2021, 8:20 AM

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If some of your players clients support it, you can try tcp fastopen with velocity...Wicked fast login times go brrr

loud tendon Mar 27, 2021, 6:28 PM

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Hey

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zzzCat

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The Netty DNS Resolver

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To be enable to true and not causing the 6-10 delay to join the server, which is the enviorment my dedicate server needs?

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TO properly work

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 6:30 PM

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it uses googles DNS

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as for why it stalls, idk, it's a network lookup, for some reason some people have issues with it, but, if I can't reproduce it 🤷‍♂️

spiral crater Mar 27, 2021, 7:01 PM

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in my personal experience, whenever the auth servers go down the only way to get bungee working properly was to disable the netty dns

gentle harbor Mar 27, 2021, 7:04 PM

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How can I remove that ✅ thing

leaden igloo Mar 27, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Why do I still get this message when trying to join through a force host? https://i.imgur.com/auAxQzW.png

Imgur

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 7:09 PM

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I'm going to guess that you joined directly to the server itself and not the proxy

loud tendon Mar 27, 2021, 7:11 PM

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zzzCat, could be the java version?

leaden igloo Mar 27, 2021, 7:11 PM

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If I set the forced host section up like this (unless this is wrong) forced_hosts: cobalt.mctve.com: cobalt cypress.mctve.com: cypress and try to connect with cypress.mctve.com. Is that doing it wrong?

loud tendon Mar 27, 2021, 7:11 PM

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causing that delay 6-10 seconds?

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 7:11 PM

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reef fulcrum as for why it stalls, idk, it's a network lookup, for some reason some people ha...

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do the hostnames point to the proxy itself?

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have you just made any DNS changes? (i.e. are you sure that your entries have propagated)

leaden igloo Mar 27, 2021, 7:14 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/NzQDo9g.png play.mctve.com is how you connect to the network itself

Imgur

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It should've had enough time since I made dns changes

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 7:14 PM

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who do those have different IPs?

leaden igloo Mar 27, 2021, 7:15 PM

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reef fulcrum who do those have different IPs?

hm?

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 7:15 PM

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play points to the proxy?

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what is the other one pointing to

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as, if you want forced hosts to work, that needs to point to the proxy

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the fact that you can also see the ip forwarding message implies an insecure setup

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configure your firewall or look at bungeeguard

loud tendon Mar 27, 2021, 7:16 PM

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zzzCat, the netty DNS resolver of waterfall, what does exactly improve? The ping?

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the connection?

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 7:16 PM

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it's DNS

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nettys DNS is async

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the default one is not

loud tendon Mar 27, 2021, 7:17 PM

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So if i turn it off, what are the downsides im going to see?

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 7:17 PM

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well, your servers gonna block for DNS requests

leaden igloo Mar 27, 2021, 7:17 PM

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Could you give me a run down on what the/a proxy would be? 🥺

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 7:18 PM

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netty DNS when its working is gonna be much smoother vs not using it

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just, for some people it blows ass

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if it's blowing ass , disable it

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This is not rocket science

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The pros of some system is literally worthless if it's shitting itself in your environment

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dovah, what?

leaden igloo Mar 27, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Kinda a technical noob - what do you mean when you say proxy? I don't think I've ever setup a proxy for the server, before?

reef fulcrum Mar 27, 2021, 7:19 PM

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proxy, waterfall

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the proxy needs to intercept the connections

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so, you have all those domains go to the proxy

loud tendon Mar 27, 2021, 7:20 PM

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since when its this option in waterfall of netty DNS

leaden igloo Mar 27, 2021, 7:20 PM

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reef fulcrum so, you have all those domains go to the proxy

ooo, okok

royal hawk Mar 27, 2021, 8:22 PM

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gentle harbor How can I remove that ✅ thing

disable forge in the config- But that will break all forge servers on your network (if any)

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If you have forge servers- you can't disable that.

gentle harbor Mar 27, 2021, 10:20 PM

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I don't have

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It was not working last time I disabled it

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@royal hawk

tidal musk Mar 28, 2021, 2:37 AM

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anyway i can get waterfall for 1.12?

nocturne fog Mar 28, 2021, 2:40 AM

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https://papermc.io/downloads#Waterfall

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get the latest one

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it is 1.8-1.16.5

tidal musk Mar 28, 2021, 2:41 AM

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what do you mean by that

nocturne fog Mar 28, 2021, 2:41 AM

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waterfall is not versioned in the same way paper or other servers are

tidal musk Mar 28, 2021, 2:41 AM

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does it have viaversion built in

nocturne fog Mar 28, 2021, 2:41 AM

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no, your backend would need that

tidal musk Mar 28, 2021, 2:41 AM

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or what

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i see

nocturne fog Mar 28, 2021, 2:41 AM

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it is just able to proxy versions 1.8-1.16

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it will not however translate between them for clients to connect to a server on a different version

tidal musk Mar 28, 2021, 2:41 AM

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ok

strong yew Mar 28, 2021, 4:48 AM

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I have Waterfall pointing toward a factions server. I have the bungeecord option in spigot.yml disabled for testing right now because of the issue I'm having.

Every time I try to connect, I get an UpstreamBridge has disconnected error. But when I join via IP, I can connect.

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Latest version of Waterfall

earnest sundial Mar 28, 2021, 8:53 AM

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is there a waterfall config.yml optimization guide?

tidal musk Mar 28, 2021, 9:58 AM

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%player% moved wrongly! This message, the player's screen is dark and they are out of the game.

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how to fix

reef fulcrum Mar 28, 2021, 9:59 AM

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I'm going to guess, wrong channel

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No idea what you mean by the latter half

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 11:38 AM

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can I make it so that when player is sent to the lobby they dont spawn where they left?

reef fulcrum Mar 28, 2021, 11:38 AM

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use a plugin like spawn on join

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 11:39 AM

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is it a spigot plugin or bungee

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also it's this one right? pretty old
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/spawn-on-join.16637/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

Spawn On Join

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 11:40 AM

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oblique obsidian is it a spigot plugin or bungee

nvm it literally said spigot

reef fulcrum Mar 28, 2021, 11:40 AM

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the proxy can't control where people are in the world

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 11:40 AM

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oblique obsidian also it's this one right? pretty old https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/spawn-on...

is there one that like hooks into essentials?

somber geode Mar 28, 2021, 1:47 PM

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If you are already sending players to the lobby server you don’t need anything else proxy wise. Just use essentials’ spawn-on-join feature

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 2:28 PM

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the waterfall server isn't visible from outside network, any idea?

marble kelpBOT Mar 28, 2021, 2:28 PM

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is the port open, does it listen on a public address (if you home-host: do you have the port forwarded)?

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 2:29 PM

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I have Port forwarded every port XXD

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I have an idea rn lemme test it first

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nope didn't work

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I'm sure the port forward is fine because my apache server is running fine

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server_connect_timeout: 5000
listeners:
- query_port: 25577
  motd: '&1Now with NCP test server!'
  tab_list: GLOBAL_PING
  query_enabled: false
  proxy_protocol: false
  forced_hosts:
    pvp.md-5.net: pvp
  ping_passthrough: false
  priorities:
  - lobby
  - UHCAAC
  - UHCNCP
  bind_local_address: true
  host: 127.0.0.1:25565
  max_players: 100
  tab_size: 60
  force_default_server: false
remote_ping_cache: -1
network_compression_threshold: 256
permissions:
  default:
  - bungeecord.command.server
  - bungeecord.command.list
  admin:
  - bungeecord.command.alert
  - bungeecord.command.end
  - bungeecord.command.ip
  - bungeecord.command.reload
log_pings: true
connection_throttle_limit: 3
prevent_proxy_connections: false
timeout: 30000
player_limit: -1
ip_forward: true
groups:
  md_5:
  - admin
remote_ping_timeout: 5000
connection_throttle: 4000
log_commands: false
stats: 2dbbe1f3-b409-4da1-9d73-2741e27a8392
online_mode: true
forge_support: true
disabled_commands:
- disabledcommandhere
servers:
  UHCAAC:
    motd: UHC server with AAC anticheat
    address: localhost:25501
    restricted: false
  UHCNCP:
    motd: UHC server with NCP anticheat
    address: localhost:25502
    restricted: false
  lobby:
    motd: Lobby
    address: localhost:25500
    restricted: false

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my config.tml

marble kelpBOT Mar 28, 2021, 2:31 PM

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I mean, you bind the listener to localhost...

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 2:32 PM

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I tried to let it listen to my public ip address:25565 but it says it can't bind to it

marble kelpBOT Mar 28, 2021, 2:33 PM

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you have to make it listen to your machines lan address, either via directly specifying it or using 0.0.0.0

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 2:33 PM

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I see...

marble kelpBOT Mar 28, 2021, 2:33 PM

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(otherwise your router will not be able to reach it via lan ;))

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 2:34 PM

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how do I check my local ip address again\

nocturne fog Mar 28, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Depending on your system, ip a, ifconfig,ipconfig

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In order of pretty much more modern to less

marble kelpBOT Mar 28, 2021, 2:37 PM

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it's just the IP that you forwarded to in your router

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 2:38 PM

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I knew it

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I set a static local ip address but I wasn't sure

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nope still

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I binded it to 192.168.1.10:25565 but still cam't join from outside internet

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help plz uwu

marble kelpBOT Mar 28, 2021, 2:45 PM

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you need to figure out at which point the connection fails

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 2:47 PM

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it says time out

reef fulcrum Mar 28, 2021, 2:50 PM

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that really gives us little to go off

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timed out just means that nothing replied

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 2:50 PM

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yeah sad

reef fulcrum Mar 28, 2021, 2:51 PM

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CGNAT, wrong ip, firewall, port forward misconfig

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 2:51 PM

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portforward is fine

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cause the apache on port 80 is fine

marble kelpBOT Mar 28, 2021, 2:52 PM

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try forwarding the minecraft port to apache and see if you get your webserver

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 2:52 PM

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what

marble kelpBOT Mar 28, 2021, 2:52 PM

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if not then your ISP might be blockign non-standard ports

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 2:52 PM

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hmm

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but 25565 was fine when I ran spigot server

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it's only broken when I use waterfall

marble kelpBOT Mar 28, 2021, 2:52 PM

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well I guess then it's not that issue

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and your waterfall setup is wrong

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just use the same ip/port config you used in your server.properties in the proxy listener section

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 2:53 PM

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lemme see

marble kelpBOT Mar 28, 2021, 2:54 PM

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(and obviously make sure it actually binds to that in the proxy log)

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 2:56 PM

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yeah in server.properties I bind it to 127.0.0.1 so no one can join because online mode is on lol

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did I set up my waterfall wrong? i think that's the only thing that can cause problem her

📎 config.yml

tulip surgeBOT Mar 28, 2021, 2:57 PM

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oblique obsidian did I set up my waterfall wrong? i think that's the only thing that can cause pr...

config.yml

https://paste.gg/Pencil/e89c69287063443e8cdbb084abfb844b

marble kelpBOT Mar 28, 2021, 3:00 PM

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I meant the ip that you used on your Spigot server before which worked

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 3:01 PM

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I just set it to blank

marble kelpBOT Mar 28, 2021, 3:02 PM

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that would mean the same as 0.0.0.0 afaik

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 3:02 PM

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imma try that

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it could be firewall actually

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how do I check

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cause I just changed a spigot server to port 25565 and remove ip limitation and still unreachable from outside

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ok so I just binded apache2 to 25565 and I got this error

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An error occurred during a connection to localhost:25565. SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length.

Error code: SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG

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does that indicate anything

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holy shit it is the firewall

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faaack man

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I just allowed 25565 through firewall and boom

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thanks guys

oblique obsidian Mar 28, 2021, 3:36 PM

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what plugin can i use to teleport players between servers

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like bungeeessentials

ebon aurora Mar 28, 2021, 10:09 PM

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hi

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i do not have access to my computer at the moment so i have to ask this

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what do the query logs contain?

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is it the player uuid or player name and their ip?

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please ping me if you have an answer

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thanks in advance

tidal musk Mar 29, 2021, 3:27 AM

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Hey I keep getting this Bungee message as the MOTD instead of my actual motd

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(also sorry for the weird screen shot. This was on my trello board)

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any one got a clue whats causing it?

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Oh I should state that when you press on the server the servers can connect.

young rampart Mar 29, 2021, 3:35 AM

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Looks like some weird plugin causing that

tidal musk Mar 29, 2021, 3:38 AM

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hmm

tidal musk Mar 29, 2021, 3:38 AM

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young rampart Looks like some weird plugin causing that

one second. im gonna pass a list of the plugins

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I dont have many

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these are it

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I would ignore the double geysers

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TydiumHub I would ignore (literally just a custom created bungee hub plugin)

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I honestly would either blame Bun...

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bungeepluginmanager I dont even use one second im gonna delete it

young rampart Mar 29, 2021, 3:48 AM

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Well, try removing some and see if that helps

tidal musk Mar 29, 2021, 3:57 AM

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alrighty

slow ermine Mar 29, 2021, 10:33 AM

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How many ram should bungee be running?im on a shared host that give me 256mb on bungee,will that cause problem?

round ocean Mar 29, 2021, 10:49 AM

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BungeeCord doesn't take much. 256 or 512 should be enough.

inner nexus Mar 29, 2021, 9:15 PM

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Okay, I am very stressed! mad This has been killing me all day... I have a bungeecord server and a hub server, you CAN join the hub server directly form the hub server's ip, but you can't get in from bunggecord, like bungeecord thinks the server is offline. Even if their is an error it should display it when trying to connect, like "server is online mode" or something like that, right??? All it says is "Could not connect to a default or fallback server, please try again later: io.netty.channel.ConnectTimeoutException" The server IS online!!

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BTW it was working untill i switched hosts for the bungeecord sevrer ^^^

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i switched from Apex to Skynode, and it stopped working, so i tried switching back without changing any configuration, and it is not working anymore? i cant figure out yyyyy

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both Apex and Skynode won't work now, i also tried fresh installs of the bungeecord jar file

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i also tried a fresh install of the hub server

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like i literly wiped everything and re-configured it all

ebon aurora Mar 29, 2021, 9:36 PM

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have you set up the config file for the bungeecord server correctly? (putting in the correct ip and port for the hub server) . has the hub server been set to offline mode and set to bungeecord = true?

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ping me when answering please

dire plank Mar 29, 2021, 10:20 PM

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how do I add hexcolors to motd in serverlist?

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Whats the format - does the config support it

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or is it plugins doing it?

marble kelpBOT Mar 29, 2021, 10:43 PM

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you might be able to use a fallback format but using a plugin with a better format (e.g. my SLP fork) would be easier

inner nexus Mar 29, 2021, 11:28 PM

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@ebon aurora Yes, it is all set up correctly, I have done this many times before, and it was working before i tried to switch hosts, i even tried switching back.

ebon aurora Mar 29, 2021, 11:34 PM

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ohh

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sorry i cannot help then

inner nexus Mar 29, 2021, 11:35 PM

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I will send you my configs so you can see, gimmie a sec.

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Here: http://143.198.225.61/Bungee_Server.zip

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If you have extra time, maybe take a look at that and see if I did anything incorrectly.

ebon aurora Mar 29, 2021, 11:50 PM

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sure ill take a look in a few hours

reef fulcrum Mar 30, 2021, 5:18 AM

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yes, it is all set up correct

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erm

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if you can jjoin the hub server directly, no, it's not setup properly

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ConnectTimedOut basically means that the proxy couldn't connect to the backend server, generally network routing issues (hosting provider issue) or configuration issue, basically

zealous grail Mar 30, 2021, 1:41 PM

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any tips for improving the cpu usage on waterfall with 70+ players?

crude meteor Mar 30, 2021, 3:15 PM

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waterfall sometimes logged that [Netty Worker IO Thread #1/WARN]: [/xx.xx.xx.xx:63161] <-> InitialHandler etc..
it seems 63161 port instead of 25565.
So, why random ports (40000-70000) appers in log (only open 25565 port)?

reef fulcrum Mar 30, 2021, 3:18 PM

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it logs the clients port, not the servers port

crude meteor Mar 30, 2021, 3:19 PM

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I got!! thanks😊

frank geyser Mar 30, 2021, 10:57 PM

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how i can share inventory in two servers?

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MySQL Player Data Bridge dont work

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its soo bug

tough island Mar 30, 2021, 11:38 PM

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frank geyser MySQL Player Data Bridge dont work

That's the only way I'm familiar with.. The problem is how Minecraft handles inventory.. When you start looking into sharing it across servers it will be buggy as hell.

nocturne fog Mar 31, 2021, 12:05 AM

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Michael has apparently been doing fine with mysql player data bridge but i've heard nothing but issues

reef fulcrum Mar 31, 2021, 3:54 AM

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The entire way that server switching works is flawed as there is no real way for plugins to hook into the process properly

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Really, what you want is a bungee/bukkit plugin combo which can deal with negotiating certain aspects of the switch better

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e.g. send a AM GOING TO MOVE THE PLAYER FLUSH YE DATA before you actually do the transfer, as the new server sees the player connecting before the original server actually DCs, so, creates this moronic race condition

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ideally this would all be gated behind some negotation bs where supported, but, err...

normal sinew Mar 31, 2021, 4:09 AM

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I create ping spikes that lag the whole server whenever I do commands when I have OP or * permission. I've tested having one of each and both trigger it. When I don't have it either one of those, I can do the same commands without causing the lag.

reef fulcrum Mar 31, 2021, 4:17 AM

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well, waterfall has nothing to do with OP or * permission; that also screams that that is an isse with something installed on your server too, as * is not a thing that the server cares about

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use timings or a sampler or something

normal sinew Mar 31, 2021, 4:20 AM

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reef fulcrum well, waterfall has nothing to do with OP or * permission; that also screams tha...

I've tried checking timings but its hard to isolate? Would you recommend something like spark to sample?

reef fulcrum Mar 31, 2021, 4:28 AM

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Yes, but, wrong channel, and you also need to diagnose other potentials like network

white nova Mar 31, 2021, 2:52 PM

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what do i do in my plugin to send someone from one server to another

reef fulcrum Mar 31, 2021, 2:52 PM

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use the bungee messaging channel

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assuming you mean from a server plugin

white nova Mar 31, 2021, 2:53 PM

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yea I have my lobby plugin with this ```java
ByteArrayDataOutput out = ByteStreams.newDataOutput();
out.writeUTF("Connect");
out.writeUTF("pvp");

             Player ply = (Player) e.getWhoClicked();
             ply.sendPluginMessage(TWSurvivalMain.instance, "BungeeCord", out.toByteArray());``` but it says that the bungeecord channel doesnt exist

reef fulcrum Mar 31, 2021, 2:53 PM

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what says that?

white nova Mar 31, 2021, 2:53 PM

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console when the code runs

reef fulcrum Mar 31, 2021, 2:54 PM

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did you forget to register?

white nova Mar 31, 2021, 2:54 PM

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did not know that i had to register

royal hawk Mar 31, 2021, 3:10 PM

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white nova yea I have my lobby plugin with this ```java ByteArrayDataOutput out = ByteStrea...

Is that on 1.13 or newer? In that case the channel is bungeecord:main

white nova Mar 31, 2021, 3:11 PM

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yes but i got it working by registering the BungeeCord channel before trying to send people, is there any benefit to switch to that?

reef fulcrum Mar 31, 2021, 3:12 PM

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it's the more proper name

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bungee does some horrors with that channel name, and will always be posted to the server as "BungeeCord", iirc

rigid nebula Mar 31, 2021, 3:28 PM

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Waterfall allows me to use both forge mods and bukkit/spigot plugins or is it only focused on mods and multi-server networks?

reef fulcrum Mar 31, 2021, 3:29 PM

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it's a proxy, not a server

rigid nebula Mar 31, 2021, 3:29 PM

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Wait so i can run it ontop of paper..?

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Or like what's the focus of the waterfall, does it support mods and plugins on the same server

reef fulcrum Mar 31, 2021, 3:30 PM

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it lets you jump between individual servers seemlessly

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it's a fork of bungeecord

rigid nebula Mar 31, 2021, 3:31 PM

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ohh alright

reef fulcrum Mar 31, 2021, 3:31 PM

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it doesn't do server stuff like server plugins or server mods, it's entirely detached from those bar the protocol

rigid nebula Mar 31, 2021, 3:31 PM

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ah alright

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i was simply confused by Our fork of the BungeeCord software, with improved Forge support and more features.

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thought it is supposed to allow forge mods to run next to plugins but alright

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never had any luck when it comes to spongeForge either..

twilit river Mar 31, 2021, 4:57 PM

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How can I protect my server there are people entering the server with the ip 127.0.0.1 with the account of people or the owners and admin

rigid nebula Mar 31, 2021, 5:22 PM

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127.0.0.1 is localhost tho?

royal hawk Mar 31, 2021, 5:26 PM

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twilit river How can I protect my server there are people entering the server with the ip 127...

Re-check your firewall and NAT/routing/network setup. Firewalling the ports to the outside is the best approach, but you can still add something like bungeeguard ontop of it if you want

brisk halo Apr 1, 2021, 7:59 AM

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and stop all pluigins

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plugins*

marble rover Apr 1, 2021, 8:31 AM

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you got some malware. reinstall all your plugins

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show a list of all your plugins

earnest sundial Apr 1, 2021, 9:19 AM

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help
what is this error?
waterfall 403

reef fulcrum Apr 1, 2021, 4:28 PM

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can you reproduce without plugins on the proxy?

tidal musk Apr 1, 2021, 4:32 PM

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i need somone to help me install skinsrestorer

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it give me an error

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📎 message.txt

tulip surgeBOT Apr 1, 2021, 4:37 PM

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tidal musk

message.txt

https://paste.gg/Pencil/5221956b5ada41b2a0828a98ebf52306

tidal musk Apr 1, 2021, 4:37 PM

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it gives me this

reef fulcrum Apr 1, 2021, 4:37 PM

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wrong channel

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we don't support piracy

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busted jar

tidal musk Apr 1, 2021, 4:40 PM

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ups

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sry

prisma quail Apr 2, 2021, 7:58 AM

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When I use /server on my opped account it works fine but not when I'm deopped. I havent changed any permissions in the config file either

royal hawk Apr 2, 2021, 9:55 AM

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Operator status has absolutely nothing to do with waterfall

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Waterfall works with the permissions in the config.yml unless you have a plugin like LuckPerms installed on the proxy

earnest sundial Apr 2, 2021, 12:17 PM

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how much ram should i give to waterfall if i have assume there are around 80-100 connecting?

supple fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 1:00 PM

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Is there a timings command for waterfall? Waterfall is taking up LOADS of CPU all of the sudden and I would like to know what is causing it. (Running latest version)

reef fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 1:01 PM

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no

supple fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 1:02 PM

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Any other way to find out why waterfall is using 20/40 threads 100%?

reef fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 1:02 PM

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use a profiler

supple fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 1:02 PM

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alrighty this is going to be fun

hearty hinge Apr 2, 2021, 2:49 PM

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Hey, I cannot find a bungeecord messaging option in the waterfall config settings?

reef fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 2:49 PM

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there is no option for it

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it's not a configurable thing, it just exists

tired oracle Apr 2, 2021, 2:50 PM

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I try to connect from waterfall to papermc 1.8.8 with viaversion but papermc crash when someone join (without viaversion crash too)

hearty hinge Apr 2, 2021, 2:50 PM

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Im not having much luck getting venturechat working

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ill keep looking for a fix i suppose

livid plume Apr 2, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Hi I'd like to know how I can set a fallback color for rgb motd since it's currently showing up as gray

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left is 1.16.5 right is 1.12.2, the local server is my server, and the server below is a demo of another server using rgb motd

royal hawk Apr 2, 2021, 3:42 PM

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livid plume Hi I'd like to know how I can set a fallback color for rgb motd since it's curre...

You’ll need a plugin for that as it’s outside the scope of default functionality

livid plume Apr 2, 2021, 3:43 PM

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oh......

livid plume Apr 2, 2021, 3:43 PM

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royal hawk You’ll need a plugin for that as it’s outside the scope of default functionality

do you have a suggestion for such a plugin?

royal hawk Apr 2, 2021, 3:43 PM

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No; but google is your friend

livid plume Apr 2, 2021, 3:43 PM

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also I'm curious if non-official support is allowed here 🤔

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anyway alr

reef fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 3:44 PM

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"non-official"

livid plume Apr 2, 2021, 3:45 PM

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idk, since some servers doesn't allow non staff solutions, just confirming, no offense 🤔

reef fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 3:45 PM

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was more wondering what you meant, it's an open discussion channel, whoever wants to help can help

livid plume Apr 2, 2021, 3:45 PM

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ah cool then xD

reef fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 3:45 PM

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as for your issue, five is correct, there is no such thing as a fallback for that stuff

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You'd need a plugin capable of distinguishing on the protocol version

livid plume Apr 2, 2021, 3:46 PM

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since one time I tried to help someone at spartan anticheat's discord and they told me not to 🤣

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alright thank you

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<3

white nova Apr 2, 2021, 8:47 PM

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does anyone know how to get viaversion working on waterfall?

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i have the proxy server, lobby server, and towny server, lobby should allow 1.8 - 1.16 and towny should only be 1.16

reef fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 8:48 PM

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we don't provide support for it, but, you can just slap it in the plugins folder

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recommended to throw it on the servers anyways

white nova Apr 2, 2021, 8:48 PM

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in the waterfall one or the server specific one?

reef fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 8:48 PM

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and if you do it in the proxy, it's gonna allow all clients, it just translates, there's no per-server config

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waterfall is a proxy, not a server

white nova Apr 2, 2021, 8:49 PM

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isnt a proxy a server

reef fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 8:49 PM

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no

white nova Apr 2, 2021, 8:57 PM

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alright well is there a setting to just allow all mc versions to connect to the servers themselves

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my only issue is that its getting caught at the proxy, not letting it check to see if it could connect to the server

cinder nymph Apr 2, 2021, 9:19 PM

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Ok so im using Waterfall and ViaBackwards and ViaVersion, and I'm trying to connect to my pixelmon server and the pixelmon server doesnt even acknowledge that anything is trying to connect

reef fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 9:20 PM

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i mean, stuff like via and mods is generally not gonna work

cinder nymph Apr 2, 2021, 9:20 PM

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So is there anything I can do?

reef fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 9:21 PM

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for mods? no

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mods themselves are generally version dependent

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you'd need to make via support forge, and then deal with translating all the mod stuff, which, "good luck", basically

cinder nymph Apr 2, 2021, 9:22 PM

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So theres no way to be able to connect my pixelmon server to waterfall

reef fulcrum Apr 2, 2021, 9:22 PM

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you can connect it just fine

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Just, mods won't work with via

cinder nymph Apr 2, 2021, 9:23 PM

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ah

tidal musk Apr 3, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Is there a way to force move players to a backup server should the other server shutdown?

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Without kicking everyone?

marble kelpBOT Apr 3, 2021, 2:14 AM

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with a plugin, sure

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I use my own super simple one for that: https://github.com/Minebench/KickInfo/

GitHub

Minebench/KickInfo

Simple Bungee plugin to send player to a fallback server on kick and display the kick message in chat or as title. Downloads: - Minebench/KickInfo

tidal musk Apr 3, 2021, 2:14 AM

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this is cool

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Do you have one like this but for when they are banned from one server they can go to another?

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(For deathban)

marble kelpBOT Apr 3, 2021, 2:20 AM

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the plugin only connects to the servers from the priorities list when they get kicked from a different server, it doesn't do any fancy redirection based on other stuff

tidal musk Apr 3, 2021, 2:21 AM

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I'm trying to figure out a clever way when a player dies they leave the hardcore server via deathban plugin, and end up in a spirit world

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where they can play in a more harsh environment

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for 1 day

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if they disconnect and reconnect they stay in the spirit world because it detects they are still banned

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once unbanned they can go back

marble kelpBOT Apr 3, 2021, 2:24 AM

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you are most likely going to need a custom solution for that

tidal musk Apr 3, 2021, 2:24 AM

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actually

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forced host: true to the hardcore server

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when it bans you're kicked and it goes to the spirit world

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due to your plugin

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YES

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it works

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I can live with this!

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Thanks for the plugin!

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plugin keeps me here

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I noticed sometimes the plugin doesn't work when banned, it'll kick faster than the plugin can handle, is there an adjust ment?

white nova Apr 3, 2021, 2:07 PM

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because I plan on adding more servers and 1.16.4 isn't great for servers that don't need it

marble kelpBOT Apr 3, 2021, 2:10 PM

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there is zero reason to use a Mojang-based server then

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if you need vanilla mechanics you are best suited using latest (especially as you get support), if you don't need those mechanics then a standalone implementation will be the best suited from both the performance as well as support viewpoints

earnest sundial Apr 3, 2021, 2:45 PM

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hi, can anyone tell me how to deal with this problem or what should i do to fix this disconnect problem?
An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host @ sun.nio.ch.SocketDispatcher:-2

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 3:32 PM

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Welcome to the nature of exposing stuff on the internet

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either use a DDoS mitigation service which can restrict stuff like that or go configure your firewall and setup fail2ban or something

supple fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:00 PM

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Hi can anyone help me solve this problem.
At some point my proxy uses 100% CPU.
I have some screenshots of spark.

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#

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How can I find out where the java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentLinkedQueue is coming from. There are 83 million which makes zero sense.

marble kelpBOT Apr 3, 2021, 4:29 PM

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screenshots 😅

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also I strongly recommend that you read the percentages after the entries, they are litterally 0

supple fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:31 PM

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this is the only one taking up this many ms though

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:31 PM

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but, it's not

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The thread is always running, that's how it works

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but, it's sleeping like 99.9% of the time

supple fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:31 PM

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everything takes about 500k but this one uses 4.4 million

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alright its sleeping most of the time

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I assume this is probably caused by a plugin then. How do I find which plugin is causing the 83 million ConcurrentLinkedQueues

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:33 PM

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Node

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That's the entries in the CLQ

supple fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:33 PM

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I see

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:33 PM

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you'd wanna use an allocation recorder

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But, memory usage != CPU usage unless you're stalling GC to all shit

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which is generally why I recommend 'proper' tools over spark

supple fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:34 PM

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I am using Aikar's flags from the pin in this channel

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:34 PM

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They're not magical.

supple fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:34 PM

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I am aware of that, but I assume my GC is okay?

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:34 PM

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They're not gonna stop GC stalling to all shit if you're running low on heap space

supple fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:34 PM

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Okay I see

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:34 PM

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I mean, if you wanna make baseless assumptions go ahead

supple fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:34 PM

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No I really don't

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I want to fix this

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Network has been down for 24 hours and my boss is pissed

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:35 PM

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if you wanna see properly, attach a proper tool like visualvm, yourkit, jprofiler, and see what the system is doing

supple fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Which one is your favorite?

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:35 PM

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yourkit, but, it's paid

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huggles his OSS license

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they do have a free trial however

supple fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 4:36 PM

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alright I'll try the trial

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awesome it has remote profiling

bright flame Apr 3, 2021, 6:04 PM

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When using Travertine i get kicked with se.llbit.nbt.NamedTag cannot be cast to java.lang.Integer when trying to join my 1.7.10 server on 1.16.5 client, this doesnt happen with other bungeecords like hexacord or even the normal bungeecord

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:05 PM

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We don't support protocol hacks

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You can disable entity metadata rewriting which will disable the mechanism which causes that, but, unless you can show that trav is mishandling metadata, I got 0 interest

bright flame Apr 3, 2021, 6:06 PM

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it is disabled

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:07 PM

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I doubt it if you got that

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logs?

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But, I mean, you're using a protocol hack, so 🤷‍♂️

bright flame Apr 3, 2021, 6:07 PM

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oh nvm i though you meant that it was set to true

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then i will go again unnoticed thanks (:

tidal musk Apr 3, 2021, 6:10 PM

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I started using bungeecord yesterday, and switched to Waterfall today. Trying to create a bungeecord type network with 2 Spigot servers, and one hybrid server running forge.

The problem I am having is a normal vanilla client can connect fine to my test lobby. But when using a forge modded client, I get kicked off my server. Is there any plugins I need to install to get it to connect? The error I get from the proxy is “incomplete set of tags received from server. please contact server operator”.

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Servers and client are both running 1.16.5

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:10 PM

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modern forge doesn't support proxies

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velocity is currently trying to make some stuff on it but it's still an earlish WIP last I knew

tidal musk Apr 3, 2021, 6:12 PM

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so no solution in my case.

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:12 PM

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pretty much

tidal musk Apr 3, 2021, 6:13 PM

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cause Waterfall states it has Forge support. Which is why I switched to it from BungeeCord

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:14 PM

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We support forge as much as viably possible and put effort to it outside of bungee who pulled support for it (you gotta flip a flag now for bungee)

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forge basically broke support in a way which wasn't possible to work around, velocity is working on it as I really don't got the health to right now, so, fun, but, support for it will end up in waterfall when viable

tidal musk Apr 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/fabricproxy-lite

What about a mod like that? Is there a working mod that can add proxy support?

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:16 PM

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No

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that's what they're working on and even hoping to get their work inside of forge itself

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Basically, it's a chicken and egg situation

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velocity is currently trying to work on both at the same time

tidal musk Apr 3, 2021, 6:17 PM

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even if velocity does solve that problem, i have plugins that depend on bungeecord/waterfall. So that is a no go. Guess the Hybrid server will have to be seperate from the bungeecord server setup.

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:18 PM

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as I said, it's still a WIP and will be ported over to waterfall down the line

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right now, there is no solution

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#BlameForge

last juniper Apr 3, 2021, 6:18 PM

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Erm

tidal musk Apr 3, 2021, 6:18 PM

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ok, thanks for the assistance, and I dont blame either one. If its not supported, then its not supported. I'll take what I can get.

last juniper Apr 3, 2021, 6:19 PM

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How do I block the UUID injection

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Someone hacked my server with a UUID exploit🙄 is there a way to block that from happening ?????

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:19 PM

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UUID injection hasn't been a thing for years

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Unless you mean you didn't configure your backend servers properly

last juniper Apr 3, 2021, 6:20 PM

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I did what YouTube videos said lol

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So maybe they outdated

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:20 PM

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They're not outdated, they're just created by people who don't know what they're doing

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"if you can't do, teach"™

last juniper Apr 3, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Lol

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:20 PM

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You need to configure the firewall for the backend servers to only allow connections from your proxy, or, failing that, use bungeeguard

last juniper Apr 3, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Ohhhhh thanks mate

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I’ll look into it

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Ok cheers

tidal musk Apr 3, 2021, 6:21 PM

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i'm still learning the ins and outs of the bungeecord myself. and havent even started on the security yet on mine. Still running it on a laptop while i learn it before uploading to the dedicated server and doing the full switch to combine 2 existing servers.

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Any suggestions for bungeecord/waterfall plugins regarding security and permission plugins?

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:22 PM

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luckperms for permissions across the entire network

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No security plugins are really needed for sane setups, all you gotta do is prevent your actual paper servers or whatever being exposed to the internet and restrict them so just your proxy can connect to them

tidal musk Apr 3, 2021, 6:23 PM

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yea, not going to try luckperms again. too much hassle to set up properly. and the last time i tried, it was complete open season with all permissions open to ranks not supposed to have them.

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:23 PM

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There is bungeeguard for paper/waterfall failing the ability to setup a firewall

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LP is pretty much the best perm plugin

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Like, perms in general are not a "done in 5 minutes" type thing

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LP has a web editor which can help with some stuff

tidal musk Apr 3, 2021, 6:25 PM

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guess i am biased toward pex myself. got such a dislike toward lp, that i wont try again

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:26 PM

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pex is dead

royal hawk Apr 3, 2021, 6:47 PM

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^

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There have been so many cries for it that I’m actually considering making modern forwarding a thing in waterfall

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:48 PM

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I've been tempted on it

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Just, I was thinking to make it per-server given the whole nature of it

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But then I gotta go modify the ServerInfo class, and, just...

royal hawk Apr 3, 2021, 6:51 PM

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I can make it non-api-breaking

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If you’re willing to accept it

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The config for it would be in the waterfall.yml

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:52 PM

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My thing was the horrors of having server configs in waterfall.yml

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I was somewhat debating on if I just rip the entire config stuff apart

royal hawk Apr 3, 2021, 6:52 PM

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I don’t want to break compatibility with bungeecord so it has to be in the waterfall.yml

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:52 PM

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I got no idea, really, having it per-server would be nice but modern forwarding is something that's been on my todo list, so, if you wanna do it go for it

royal hawk Apr 3, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Or just get another file named forwarding.yml

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Yea, I just wanted to avoid that, but, I mean, urgh

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~~hardfork waterfall~~

royal hawk Apr 3, 2021, 6:53 PM

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I’ve been tinkering with adventure and I’ve run into way more issues than I can count

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I’d be all for hard-forking waterfall

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notlike

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As long as we still pull the -api module I’m game

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Pull api and hard-fork proxy internals

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So keep patches for API and have our own internals

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 6:54 PM

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headache is that so much depends on proxy internals the entire situation is just a fucking nightmare

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flashback to that one time I broke a big plugin because I thought returning raw json strings in the API was fucking moronic

royal hawk Apr 3, 2021, 6:55 PM

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No touch api

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notlike

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Oh one more thing

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Should I also integrate bungeeguard

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Because modern forwarding will undoubtedly break that

supple fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Is someone willing to help me diagnose my CPU utilization / lag issue using a YourKit snapshot? I am not really sure what I'm looking for. What I have noticed is:

we are not short of Heap Memory
there are very many Nodes in java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentLinkedQueue (62 million in Object explorer and it is also the biggest object), it also looks like they almost always contain the same data (noticed that in duplicate string inspection)
In threads HttpClient Workers seem to be hot and blocking often with high cpu times

bleak rivet Apr 3, 2021, 10:42 PM

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Anyone have a link to a resource where I can set up waterfall?

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 10:42 PM

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see the bungee install guide

bleak rivet Apr 3, 2021, 10:42 PM

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Alright

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Hmm that's strange

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I don't have a server.properties file

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Servers go into config.yml?

reef fulcrum Apr 3, 2021, 10:48 PM

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Yes, servers don't have a server.properties file, those are your backends

neon merlin Apr 4, 2021, 5:42 AM

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Hey Hey.. im kinda confused with "network-compression-threshold".. i read so many threads about it but every thread is telling something different... The best Solution is Bungeecord on 128 / 256 and all spigot server (localhost) should be -1 right?

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Running a Ryzen 5900X, 1000 mbit download/upload, Java 11 (if that matter). Bungeecord and the servers are running on the same dedicated server

reef fulcrum Apr 4, 2021, 5:44 AM

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-1 if same server/network, no need to waste CPU cycles for instant throughput

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as for the proxy, generally the default, some people 1/2 it, there is no magical value here, boils down to varying factors

neon merlin Apr 4, 2021, 5:46 AM

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alright.. sometimes i feel like the login, teleport and sometimes chunk loading isnt on point (feels like 300 ping).. could that be because my bungeecord is currently on 512?

sinful laurel Apr 4, 2021, 8:26 AM

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can bungeecord/waterfall be responsible for editing iptables? thonk

royal hawk Apr 4, 2021, 8:31 AM

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sinful laurel can bungeecord/waterfall be responsible for editing iptables? <:thonk:4638429680...

No; but some (premium) plugins or forks do that

steep shore Apr 4, 2021, 1:29 PM

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hi, i use this rules to limit udp query packets, but is it affecting connecting players by any way?

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iptables -A INPUT -p udp -j udp-flood
iptables -A udp-flood -p udp -m limit --limit 5/s -j RETURN
iptables -A udp-flood -j DROP

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it seems to me that connecting takes longer than without these rules

toxic quiver Apr 4, 2021, 1:57 PM

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hi all, so I've been using maxbans since forever and its always been very touch and go when it comes to bans actually working across network. It seems now that it just doesn't work period. so I'm looking for an alternative. what is the "best" one to use with waterfall that can ensure bans remain consistent across the network?

earnest sundial Apr 4, 2021, 2:41 PM

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hi, can anyone tell me what does this mean?

[Netty Worker IO Thread #0/ERROR]: Error authenticating Ron_Theobald with minecraft.net
java.net.UnknownHostException: failed to resolve 'sessionserver.mojang.com' after 2 queries 

Caused by: io.netty.resolver.dns.DnsNameResolverTimeoutException: [/1.1.1.1:53] query via UDP timed out after 5000 milliseconds (no stack trace available)

dusky sedge Apr 4, 2021, 2:48 PM

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That 1.1.1.1 didnt reply in time to resolve sessionserver.mojang.com

earnest sundial Apr 4, 2021, 2:53 PM

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if i remember correctly, 1.1.1.1 is cloudflare dns?

young rampart Apr 4, 2021, 2:54 PM

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yea

earnest sundial Apr 4, 2021, 2:55 PM

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anything can i do to prevent this happen?
this kick half of my server players : (

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or, does it happen rare?

young rampart Apr 4, 2021, 2:57 PM

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idk, check your connection to that DNS, change to a different DNS

reef fulcrum Apr 4, 2021, 5:40 PM

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try disabling netty dns inside of waterfall.yml, that thing generally performs better but for some reason some people manage to host in environments that breaks it

frank geyser Apr 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Hi!, how i can balance two Survival servers without lobby?

reef fulcrum Apr 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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find a plugin which deals with load balancing

frank geyser Apr 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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ohh ok, i need a plugin

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i go to search

prisma quail Apr 4, 2021, 8:24 PM

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When I use /server on my permission * account it works fine but not when I'm deopped. I havent changed any permissions in the config file either

reef fulcrum Apr 4, 2021, 8:27 PM

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waterfall doesn't support * perms

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op has nothing to do with waterfall, the proxy can't see it

prisma quail Apr 4, 2021, 8:27 PM

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so why cant people use /server?

reef fulcrum Apr 4, 2021, 8:28 PM

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Did you install a perm plugin like LP on the proxy?

prisma quail Apr 4, 2021, 8:35 PM

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yes

prisma quail Apr 4, 2021, 9:03 PM

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@reef fulcrum

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sorry for ping but its been half an hour blob_sad

reef fulcrum Apr 4, 2021, 9:08 PM

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perm plugin overrides config.yml, need to configure perms in your perm plugin

prisma quail Apr 4, 2021, 9:08 PM

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ah ok

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is there a specific permission to get access to a server

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or just bungeecord.command.server

reef fulcrum Apr 4, 2021, 9:11 PM

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assuming not restricted, just that

prisma quail Apr 4, 2021, 9:20 PM

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ok thanks

plucky gate Apr 4, 2021, 10:50 PM

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Hi, I updated both my paper and waterfall build to the laterst version (WATERFALL #403, PAPER 1.16.5 #580) today, and I received this error:
Could not connect to a default or fallback server, please try again later: io.netty.channel.AbstractChannel$AnnotatedConnectException
I'm sure I initiated the correct jar, and I didn't change any config settings.

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Are those two builds compatible? If not, which two should I use?

calm ether Apr 4, 2021, 10:57 PM

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not a build compat issue

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make sure the server is running and the network is good between your proxy and your paper server

plucky gate Apr 4, 2021, 11:07 PM

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Yeah, all servers are running and the network connection is good. Also, everything worked fine before I switched the jar.

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Problem resolved. Turns out that it's a ViaVersion issue. Thanks for the help!

restive wraith Apr 5, 2021, 3:45 AM

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Porque sale esom

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?

tidal musk Apr 5, 2021, 7:20 AM

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Hi

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I am having an issue

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It is only effecting one of my servers

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I will tip anyone with $20 that can solve the problem promptly

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delicate phoenix Apr 5, 2021, 8:06 AM

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tidal musk

May can I ask, what is your server OS?

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Connection reset by peer means something closed the connection between the parties

atomic trout Apr 5, 2021, 10:50 AM

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restive wraith Porque sale esom

english

tough island Apr 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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restive wraith

Someone is either TCP pinging your minecraft port or refreshing the servers list frequently

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Also fun fact... There's an NGINX server running behind that IP.

frank geyser Apr 5, 2021, 2:37 PM

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How can I set a delay for changing between servers?

pure burrow Apr 5, 2021, 3:17 PM

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[19:46:09 WARN]: [/185.51.328.239:18311] <-> InitialHandler - bad packet ID, ar
mods in use!? Couldn't read all bytes from a packet. For more information, lau
ch Waterfall with -Dwaterfall.packet-decode-logging=true

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why is it spamming?

tough island Apr 5, 2021, 3:17 PM

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frank geyser How can I set a delay for changing between servers?

Look at the connection throttle option in the config

tough island Apr 5, 2021, 3:18 PM

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pure burrow [19:46:09 WARN]: [/185.51.328.239:18311] <-> InitialHandler - bad packet ID, ar ...

You likely have a plugin sending bad data back to the proxy

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Also for future reference omit public IPs

pure burrow Apr 5, 2021, 3:19 PM

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tough island You likely have a plugin sending bad data back to the proxy

how can i know wich one of them?

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i try nullping crasher

tough island Apr 5, 2021, 3:19 PM

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Disable them one by one until you resolve your issue

pure burrow Apr 5, 2021, 3:19 PM

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and when i do it

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its spamming this

tough island Apr 5, 2021, 3:28 PM

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So you only get that error when you try to crash the server...

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With an exploit

trim beacon Apr 5, 2021, 5:00 PM

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i get this when someone trys to join a server

📎 message.txt

tulip surgeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 5:00 PM

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trim beacon i get this when someone trys to join a server

message.txt

https://paste.gg/Pencil/08d8213ea5fa42219cec885295e2a01e

reef fulcrum Apr 5, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Replicate without plugins

odd hatch Apr 5, 2021, 5:09 PM

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This plugins doing something it wouldn't. me.neznamy.tab.platforms.bungeecord.BungeePipelineInjector

trim beacon Apr 5, 2021, 5:15 PM

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it is tab killing it self

toxic quiver Apr 5, 2021, 6:50 PM

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If I wanted to slow the players ability to join the server so it allowed 1 connection per X seconds, is there a way to do this in waterfall itself?

jade coyote Apr 5, 2021, 8:16 PM

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wtf is going on

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from my language it is translate "/server will block"

reef fulcrum Apr 5, 2021, 8:18 PM

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I mean

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that's not on us

jade coyote Apr 5, 2021, 8:19 PM

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i know

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it is hosting

toxic quiver Apr 5, 2021, 9:33 PM

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is it not possible with waterfall to restrict the rate at which connections can be made to the network? like 1 connection per 10seconds for example?

reef fulcrum Apr 5, 2021, 9:35 PM

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using a plugin, sure, but, really, use your firewall

toxic quiver Apr 5, 2021, 9:36 PM

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ahh okay, iptables time

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I vaguely remember spigot having a connection throttle thingy

reef fulcrum Apr 5, 2021, 9:36 PM

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bungee/waterfall does too

toxic quiver Apr 5, 2021, 9:36 PM

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hoped something like this was in waterfall I remember having to disable spigot's one when setting up bungee

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oh ?

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but its better to use firewall?

reef fulcrum Apr 5, 2021, 9:37 PM

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well, bungees is per ip

toxic quiver Apr 5, 2021, 9:37 PM

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ahh I see

reef fulcrum Apr 5, 2021, 9:37 PM

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at the endof the day, it works, but, it really depends on the goal

toxic quiver Apr 5, 2021, 9:37 PM

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yeah the goal would be all ips 1 connection per X seconds

reef fulcrum Apr 5, 2021, 9:37 PM

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the bungee/server one are designed to be pretty and tell the client to reconnect with a pretty manner

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iptables won't but will kill the connection earlier thus less load on the server

toxic quiver Apr 5, 2021, 9:38 PM

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don't suppose you know the iptables rule for such a thing? 😄

reef fulcrum Apr 5, 2021, 9:38 PM

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iptables will however see pinging the server as a connection, so, will break things like connecting to the server if they have it in the server list and your limit is too small

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No

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I don't provide support for iptables for various reasons

toxic quiver Apr 5, 2021, 9:39 PM

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understandable

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ahh I see @ what you mean

empty echo Apr 6, 2021, 2:16 PM

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heyho, so i'm new to waterful and did setup everything succesfull till now

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now i'm struggeling with this: lets say i have server a and b. And c the bungee server.

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a and b are connected and can be acessed over c and /server

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is it possible that people can adress server b still over their client by typing in the ip:port ?

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kinda going directly to server b insead going over the bungeecord adress

tough island Apr 6, 2021, 2:53 PM

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So you do that with a thing called Forced Hosts @empty echo It works in a similar way to Server Name Indicators or a Webserver's Virtual Host.

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    survival.minecraft.server.com: survival
    minigames.minecraft.server.com: minigames
    creative.minecraft.server.com: creative```

glass bobcat Apr 6, 2021, 3:20 PM

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empty echo kinda going directly to server b insead going over the bungeecord adress

what he said ^ don't try and configure it so that your users can bypass your bungeecord, your servers will be in offline mode and they would be able to bypass authentication

young rampart Apr 6, 2021, 5:00 PM

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https://waste.cutiepie.at/hdrql1sorh9t9ga5
what the actual fuck why does this kick a player

royal hawk Apr 6, 2021, 11:42 PM

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young rampart https://waste.cutiepie.at/hdrql1sorh9t9ga5 what the actual fuck why does this ki...

because the exception is not caught inside the thrown context (pipeline). That’s a design flaw in bungeecord that is next to impossible to fix. I know a way to mitigate it but I’m not so sure it’s a good idea

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Plugins on bungeecord have a chance to register things before the server does- and when the server does register the same thing after- not the plugin but the connection errors

royal hawk Apr 6, 2021, 11:43 PM

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royal hawk because the exception is not caught inside the thrown context (pipeline). That’s...

If you have a way of reproducing this issue I’d gladly take a zip of that setup

royal hawk Apr 7, 2021, 12:21 AM

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@ zzzCat I have a viable fix for the issue; it just works around it. From my testing it doesn’t cause additional problems

blissful dirge Apr 7, 2021, 12:38 AM

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is there a .optimize for waterfall?

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.optimize

marble kelpBOT Apr 7, 2021, 12:38 AM

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https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

[GUIDE] Server Optimization⚡

In memory of frash23

Iɴᴛʀᴏ
Spigot and Paper offer settings that greatly improve performance. This guide breaks down suggested values that get the most...

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additional tips for improving server performance - https://www.spigotmc.org/posts/3684550

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

[GUIDE] Server Optimization⚡

Mines are even lower, animals 5 and monsters 20.
I will try, thank you so much for your answer.

calm ether Apr 7, 2021, 12:41 AM

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#waterfall-help message

white nova Apr 7, 2021, 1:11 AM

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how do i force the player to initially join the lobby server, rn it joins whichever server they were in last

reef fulcrum Apr 7, 2021, 1:18 AM

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Force default

white nova Apr 7, 2021, 1:52 AM

#

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ive got it setup correctly afaik

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still connecting me to alternate servers if i leave in them

reef fulcrum Apr 7, 2021, 2:00 AM

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force default moves you into the priorities list

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I know that works 100%, make sure you didn't reload I guess

young rampart Apr 7, 2021, 7:36 AM

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royal hawk If you have a way of reproducing this issue I’d gladly take a zip of that setup

I can reproduce it on our game server, but i can't share that, let me test if i can reproduce the setup

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I'm just curious why that scoreboard objective is mentioned since it has nothing to do with the game that kicks players

reef fulcrum Apr 7, 2021, 7:39 AM

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something is trying to redefine that objective

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or, cause it to be double sent

humble thistle Apr 7, 2021, 10:39 AM

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How can i disable tab-complete in watefall?

restive wraith Apr 7, 2021, 4:20 PM

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tough island Someone is either TCP pinging your minecraft port or refreshing the servers list...

How do I avoid that?

reef fulcrum Apr 7, 2021, 4:20 PM

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block their IP with a firewall?

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I mean, it's not really anything bad per sei

restive wraith Apr 7, 2021, 4:24 PM

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I am using the geyser plugin, it seems to me that without it that spam does not appear

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I think

tidal musk Apr 7, 2021, 11:45 PM

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try disable ping pass through on geyser and it won't need to ping your server every few minutes

lethal sedge Apr 8, 2021, 9:49 AM

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Hello, can I forward the real IP address of the user without enabling bungeecord on the server?

calm ether Apr 8, 2021, 10:47 AM

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no

tough island Apr 8, 2021, 11:10 AM

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The server needs to know bungeecord is enabled otherwise it'll never know to get the client's IP address.

astral solstice Apr 8, 2021, 6:08 PM

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these load adverages seem abnormally high to me for everything idling, are they?

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when i throw a single other server in it rests at about 3.55

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iotop shows 0% disk usage for the services

reef fulcrum Apr 8, 2021, 6:14 PM

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load average is not a really friendly metric around measuring how well stuff is performing

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Using it as a "this is bad!" measure is just meh

astral solstice Apr 8, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Servers been sluggish and so has ssh sessions, load adverage is the only abnormal metric i can find

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with my 4 servers + waterfall running load adverage is 9-13 with near 0 cpu usage

reef fulcrum Apr 8, 2021, 6:16 PM

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your load average would need to hit 12 for the CPU to be overloaded

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But, it's a flawed metric which in general is eer...

astral solstice Apr 8, 2021, 6:16 PM

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isnt load average cores, not threads?

reef fulcrum Apr 8, 2021, 6:17 PM

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it's a number pulled out from some algo somewhere which tries to factor in stuff which ends up falling into a weird area given that it's generally how "loaded" the CPU is

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Which, if your load average is high but CPU usage is low, falls into a complex area of bottlenecking somewhere or the algos for measuring all this stuff being kinda trash

astral solstice Apr 8, 2021, 6:20 PM

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do you normally see the ladder of former

undone fulcrum Apr 8, 2021, 8:59 PM

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does anyone know how to fix this, im using a bungee(waterfall) server and im trying to join a paper spigot lobby, with a forge modded client so i can link my modded servers.

2021-04-09_06_57_57-Minecraft_1.16.5_-_ATM6_Sky.png

royal hawk Apr 8, 2021, 10:23 PM

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undone fulcrum does anyone know how to fix this, im using a bungee(waterfall) server and im try...

If this is on forge 1.13 or newer- no proxy supports that

woeful reef Apr 9, 2021, 6:48 AM

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undone fulcrum does anyone know how to fix this, im using a bungee(waterfall) server and im try...

Usually happens because of client side mods

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Try remove mods that let you break half slabs or merge xp orbs etc

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Happened to me, I did that and it worked for me

vale pumice Apr 9, 2021, 7:23 AM

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`
public void groupchecker() {
getProxy().getScheduler().schedule(this, new Runnable() {
@Override
public void run() {
for (ProxiedPlayer player : ProxyServer.getInstance().getPlayers()) {
PlayerGroup group = GroupManager.getInstance().getGroup(groupplayer);
if (group == null) {
return;
} else if (group != null) {

                    List<OnlineGroupPlayer> vgroup = GroupManager.getInstance().getGroup(groupplayer).getAllPlayers();
                    String vgroupleader = GroupManager.getInstance().getGroup(groupplayer).getLeader().getName();
                    String vinteractplayer = GroupPlayerManager.getInstance().getPlayer(player).getName();
                    String vAllin = "{Interact:" + vinteractplayer + "}" + ", " + "{Leader:" + vgroupleader + "}" + ", " + "{Group:" + String.valueOf(vgroup) + "}";
                    
                    e.sendCustomData((ProxiedPlayer) player, vAllin, 3);
                }
            }
        }
    }, 1, 1, TimeUnit.SECONDS);
}

`

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does this gonna make lag ?

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gonna use it for send data to server/(bukkit, spigot, paper)

odd minnow Apr 9, 2021, 7:58 AM

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Hey I have an probleme I want to link 1server paperspigot and 1 mohist with waterfall.

I add the mod Ironchest on the mohist server that work.
I add my mod, that work when the mohist server is not link with waterfall.
I link with whaterfall that say that but I have the mod on my client

Can i have some help please.

vale pumice Apr 9, 2021, 8:12 AM

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without modded client you cant join to Modded server

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its says that basically

reef fulcrum Apr 9, 2021, 8:13 AM

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first server you join has to be capable of doing the forge handshake

vale pumice Apr 9, 2021, 8:14 AM

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vale pumice gonna use it for send data to server/(bukkit, spigot, paper)

zzz do you have any idea ?

odd minnow Apr 9, 2021, 8:14 AM

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vale pumice without modded client you cant join to Modded server

my client is modded

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that work when the server is not with waterfall

reef fulcrum Apr 9, 2021, 8:14 AM

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I can't benchmark your code

vale pumice Apr 9, 2021, 8:15 AM

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yeay bcus of librarys...

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can i make benchmark here ?

reef fulcrum Apr 9, 2021, 8:15 AM

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use timings or something

vale pumice Apr 9, 2021, 8:16 AM

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kk will try

vale pumice Apr 9, 2021, 8:16 AM

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odd minnow my client is modded

can u join to that server with same client (without waterfall) ?

odd minnow Apr 9, 2021, 8:16 AM

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vale pumice can u join to that server with same client (without waterfall) ?

yes

reef fulcrum Apr 9, 2021, 8:16 AM

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pooping a bytestream into the network queue is nothing

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the cost is gonna be in actually generating the data you're sending

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I'd heavily suggest being sane and using something like json so that you can easily parse it or something

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much easier to use standard things vs cobbling your own together

vale pumice Apr 9, 2021, 8:17 AM

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data will be complete strings

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gonna use strings like jsons on paper side

reef fulcrum Apr 9, 2021, 8:17 AM

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"like"

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aka, you're making something which is gonna be stupid to parse vs using a sane mechanism people have been using for aaages and is well proven/suited for this

vale pumice Apr 9, 2021, 8:19 AM

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Yea maybe cus im returning to this things after aaages 😄

odd minnow Apr 9, 2021, 8:19 AM

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reef fulcrum aka, you're making something which is gonna be stupid to parse vs using a sane m...

are you talking to me or to @vale pumice ?

vale pumice Apr 9, 2021, 8:19 AM

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right now to me

reef fulcrum Apr 9, 2021, 8:20 AM

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was talking to the guy tryna poop raw strings down places

odd minnow Apr 9, 2021, 8:20 AM

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ok

vale pumice Apr 9, 2021, 8:20 AM

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you mean send things as json from water fall

reef fulcrum Apr 9, 2021, 8:20 AM

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basically, yea, just, in general

vale pumice Apr 9, 2021, 8:21 AM

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if it is, gonna search and make it

reef fulcrum Apr 9, 2021, 8:21 AM

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using a sane format designed for sending k,v things when you're tryna shove around something which looks like gross k,v things is generally the best option

vale pumice Apr 9, 2021, 8:21 AM

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cus im trying to make a waterfall-paper bridge

reef fulcrum Apr 9, 2021, 8:21 AM

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Don't reinvent the wheel

odd minnow Apr 9, 2021, 8:22 AM

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odd minnow Hey I have an probleme I want to link 1server paperspigot and 1 mohist with wate...

Have you got an idea please ?

reef fulcrum Apr 9, 2021, 8:22 AM

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I've gone over that specific issue 200 times and even given you the general hint

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feel free to use the search feature

odd minnow Apr 9, 2021, 8:23 AM

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the search feature ?

reef fulcrum Apr 9, 2021, 8:23 AM

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reef fulcrum first server you join has to be capable of doing the forge handshake

.

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in discord

vale pumice Apr 9, 2021, 8:23 AM

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ctrl + f

odd minnow Apr 9, 2021, 8:23 AM

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reef fulcrum first server you join has to be capable of doing the forge handshake

ok sorry i have a bad anglish i d'ont understand that you are talking to me

reef fulcrum Apr 9, 2021, 8:24 AM

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It was quite practically after your message

odd minnow Apr 9, 2021, 8:25 AM

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yes thanks you i am gooing to try

odd minnow Apr 9, 2021, 8:44 AM

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reef fulcrum first server you join has to be capable of doing the forge handshake

nop that do not work

odd minnow Apr 9, 2021, 9:12 AM

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reef fulcrum Apr 9, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Broken terminal

tidal musk Apr 10, 2021, 5:06 AM

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Does anyone know what this error is?

https://pastebin.com/6XictKmC

Pastebin

## A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:...

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

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It only works with the GamerHost Query plugin. A new thread and sleep is used there. Do you think that could be the case?

tough island Apr 10, 2021, 6:28 AM

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Well the error stack points to a plugin being the problem I'd start with that

reef fulcrum Apr 10, 2021, 7:29 AM

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segmentation fault

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generally OS issues or bad hardware

tidal musk Apr 10, 2021, 7:38 AM

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This only happens when there is a plugin that uses thread sleep.

severe rover Apr 10, 2021, 7:57 AM

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hi, do we have some documentation how to setup waterfall? I know some might say its pretty much like bungee but I've never set one up and I wanted to start with waterfall.

tidal musk Apr 10, 2021, 8:00 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxtlG2b-V4s

YouTube

Apex Hosting

How to install Waterfall on a Minecraft Server

USEFUL LINKS
https://apexminecrafthosting.com/waterfall/

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Start
1:03 Installation
1:49 Features
3:46 Conclusion

▶ Play video

severe rover Apr 10, 2021, 8:01 AM

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no docs? I guess this would do. thanks

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does waterfall have any commands in its console?

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like reloading settings of sort?

tidal musk Apr 10, 2021, 8:10 AM

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greload

severe rover Apr 10, 2021, 8:11 AM

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any list like where I can find them?

tidal musk Apr 10, 2021, 8:13 AM

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https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bbcode.26/archive

BungeeCord Commands | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

Applied By
hcherndon:
Jun 9, 2013 at 6:01 PM

severe rover Apr 10, 2021, 8:16 AM

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awesome, thanks!

naive sky Apr 10, 2021, 11:45 AM

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How do I make it so when someone hovers over the player count, it shows something?

round ocean Apr 10, 2021, 11:47 AM

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dev exp or you searching for a ready to use plugin?

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@naive sky like that? https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/bungeeplayerlist.74636/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

BungeePlayerList

tidal musk Apr 10, 2021, 11:49 AM

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where can i get flamecord?

naive sky Apr 10, 2021, 11:49 AM

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round ocean <@!274615157496348674> like that? https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/bungeeplaye...

Maybe a bit more specific? so it shows something like this?

round ocean Apr 10, 2021, 11:50 AM

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Not here. At their discord/ website.

round ocean Apr 10, 2021, 11:52 AM

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naive sky Maybe a bit more specific? so it shows something like this?

Could be that SpigotMC has a more up to date version of it.
https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/serverlistplus
https://github.com/Minecrell/ServerListPlus/wiki/Status-Configuration#player-hover-messages

GitHub

Minecrell/ServerListPlus

A flexible Minecraft plugin to customize the appearance of your server in the server list - Minecrell/ServerListPlus

naive sky Apr 10, 2021, 11:53 AM

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Thanks

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But it's not for Bungee, right?

round ocean Apr 10, 2021, 12:01 PM

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It should be as multiple Server are shown.

tidal musk Apr 10, 2021, 3:28 PM

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hi, I'm using BungeeGuard in Waterfall proxy and in Spigot server, but I get a weird error in that spigot server... What can I do?

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I already put the token inside the config.yml in the spigot server

nocturne fog Apr 10, 2021, 3:42 PM

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What is the error you are getting?

reef fulcrum Apr 10, 2021, 5:26 PM

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Bungee guard needs paper last I knew

slow ermine Apr 10, 2021, 6:14 PM

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-XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem
missing out this part in flag will cause latency lag??

reef fulcrum Apr 10, 2021, 6:55 PM

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it impacts JVM performance

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i.e. the performance of the JVM which is passing those packets through it

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lacking it is defo not gonna help, but, generally ain't gonna be a massive critical fix

glacial jacinth Apr 10, 2021, 9:25 PM

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does waterfall support fabric

glacial jacinth Apr 10, 2021, 10:01 PM

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are there any mods I have to install for It to work on Waterfall

reef fulcrum Apr 10, 2021, 10:02 PM

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fabricproxy adds support for forwarding

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beyond that, it's not something we've gone out of our way to support but I think that they're generally better around proxies in general but 🤷‍♂️

glacial jacinth Apr 10, 2021, 10:03 PM

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thank you

lean zenith Apr 11, 2021, 5:13 AM

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What is the recommended Java Version to run with WaterFall/Travertine?

lean zenith Apr 11, 2021, 6:54 AM

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tidal musk where can i get flamecord?

Just use Travertine, FlameCord isnt that great as it claims it to be.

odd hatch Apr 11, 2021, 7:24 AM

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@lean zenith I don't think it matters, but you shuld try to be putting your servers on at least Java 11

tidal musk Apr 11, 2021, 10:57 AM

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lean zenith Just use Travertine, FlameCord isnt that great as it claims it to be.

travertine better then flamecord?

severe badger Apr 11, 2021, 10:58 AM

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Anything is better than Flamecord

delicate phoenix Apr 11, 2021, 11:00 AM

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Flamecord is horrible

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The community on their discord is full of 1.8 skript kiddies sharing token grabbers and such, propably the dumbest fork community you can find irlul

royal hawk Apr 11, 2021, 1:40 PM

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velocityblue

woven stone Apr 11, 2021, 2:39 PM

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When I use HaProxy with proxy_protocol: true I get this error:

[16:39:21 ERROR]: [/172.18.0.1:46060] <-> InitialHandler - encountered exception
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: hostname can't be null
        at java.net.InetSocketAddress.checkHost(InetSocketAddress.java:149) ~[?:?]
        at java.net.InetSocketAddress.<init>(InetSocketAddress.java:216) ~[?:?]
        at net.md_5.bungee.netty.HandlerBoss.channelRead(HandlerBoss.java:84) ~[waterfall-1.16-403.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.16-R0.5-SNAPSHOT:7395ab3:403]

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frontend bungee_frontend
    bind *:25565
    mode tcp
    option tcplog
    timeout client 1m
    default_backend bungee_backend

backend bungee_backend
    mode tcp
    timeout connect 10s
    timeout server 1m
    server bungee1 <external_ip>:25566 check-send-proxy check send-proxy-v2

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Did I configure something wrong?

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once I stop the haproxy server the errors stop as well

glacial jacinth Apr 11, 2021, 8:06 PM

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does waterfall support cuberite

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or does waterfall only work with java servers

reef fulcrum Apr 11, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Waterfall speaks the Minecraft protocol

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We don't officially support cuberite, but, assuming they have some stuff to support the IP/uuid forwarding should work

tough island Apr 11, 2021, 11:11 PM

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woven stone When I use HaProxy with `proxy_protocol: true` I get this error: ``` [16:39:21 ...

Would suggest your issue is with the waterfall config not haproxy

tough island Apr 11, 2021, 11:38 PM

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Also for the server in your haproxy config. You should be using the internal IP of the server not the external ip of the server...

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Unless it's outside your local network

odd hatch Apr 12, 2021, 12:02 AM

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How do I better reflect disconnect reasons to the client? Right now they're getting stuck in a "ALREADY_CONNECTING" loop b/c they're banned from the target server.

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In this specific case I cannot add the ban plugin to the proxy, the target server isn't 'supposed' to have the same bans as the proxy and it's downstreams

odd hatch Apr 12, 2021, 6:50 AM

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pepehands

woven stone Apr 12, 2021, 7:13 AM

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tough island Would suggest your issue is with the waterfall config not haproxy

No, I used a docker container for the haproxy instance but I forgot to add a port to the run command. For some reason, that caused this error.

reef fulcrum Apr 12, 2021, 8:54 PM

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You can't

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Best you can do is rate limit connections, welcome to the internet.

warm violet Apr 12, 2021, 8:59 PM

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😉

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Good old internet...

frank geyser Apr 12, 2021, 10:53 PM

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hi!

fallow flume Apr 13, 2021, 6:37 AM

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Hi , does anyone have a waterfall fork that supports the latest snapshot?

reef fulcrum Apr 13, 2021, 6:38 AM

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there is a PR on the github, pretty sure it links to a build

fallow flume Apr 13, 2021, 6:39 AM

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thanks

fallow flume Apr 13, 2021, 6:58 AM

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i can see a pull request for 21w14a, would there be a direct link to download a build?

reef fulcrum Apr 13, 2021, 7:01 AM

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pretty sure they use jenkins

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right click -> copy link

fallow flume Apr 13, 2021, 7:04 AM

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yes, thanks

pale chasm Apr 13, 2021, 2:10 PM

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What DNS Records do I have to use using waterfall?

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Just stepped over from bungeecord to waterfall using tcpshield also.

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But I can't connect to my server using bedrock

marble kelpBOT Apr 13, 2021, 2:17 PM

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waterfall does not support bedrock?

tough island Apr 13, 2021, 2:17 PM

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pale chasm What DNS Records do I have to use using waterfall?

Same as if you would be connecting to any other server A/AAAA or CNAME

tough island Apr 13, 2021, 2:18 PM

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pale chasm But I can't connect to my server using bedrock

Waterfall can't do this. You would need to look at setting up something like GeyserMC.

pale chasm Apr 13, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Ah, so I need to use something in my servers to let it connect to

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I got that

tough island Apr 13, 2021, 2:25 PM

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You can however use Geyser to connect to waterfall..

pale chasm Apr 13, 2021, 3:01 PM

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tough island You can however use Geyser to connect to waterfall..

It is possible to use TCPShield with this?

tough island Apr 13, 2021, 3:01 PM

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Highly doubt it.

pale chasm Apr 13, 2021, 3:01 PM

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Trying atm but isn't working for me to ping it haha

subtle plaza Apr 14, 2021, 12:26 PM

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Whats the least ram I can run waterfall on decently

reef fulcrum Apr 14, 2021, 12:29 PM

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🤷‍♂️

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depends on your needs

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minimum recommended is 256MB

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can use less, but, that's on you

subtle plaza Apr 14, 2021, 12:33 PM

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Well at the moment I've got 512mb I can give it

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How many people could I hold with that?

frank geyser Apr 14, 2021, 1:34 PM

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how i can prevent UUID Spoof?

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in offline mdoe

reef fulcrum Apr 14, 2021, 1:35 PM

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UUID spoofing is not a thing and hasn't been a thing for years

frank geyser Apr 14, 2021, 1:37 PM

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Yesterday a team "Hacked" my network

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i think he use uuid spoof

reef fulcrum Apr 14, 2021, 1:38 PM

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UUID spoofing hasn't been a thing for years

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not configuring your security properly is however a common issue with people who fail to read

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configure your backend servers to only allow connections from your proxy with a firewall or bungeeguard

frank geyser Apr 14, 2021, 1:39 PM

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Yeah! i know that i configure bad the network

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but on all of my servers you need to do /login

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its bypasseable?

reef fulcrum Apr 14, 2021, 1:40 PM

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🤷‍♂️

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depends on your security setup

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We don't support offline mode setups, configure your stuff properly.

frank geyser Apr 14, 2021, 1:40 PM

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okok, Thanks!

tidal musk Apr 14, 2021, 4:21 PM

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hello I have a problem with the / server it doesn't work it's normal or not

tidal musk Apr 14, 2021, 4:39 PM

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?

woven stone Apr 14, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Sometimes when I move players using /send they get kicked with msg "Disconnected". What could that be? I am using haproxy as well.

azure moat Apr 14, 2021, 9:14 PM

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how do i move my current server onto another one

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basically the world

woeful reef Apr 14, 2021, 9:28 PM

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copy paste the world folder into the new server directory

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make a backup tho

modern hull Apr 14, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Is there an event where I can detect if a backend server goes offline/starts?

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Is the only way to detect that to constantly loop over the map of existing connected servers and see if it has changed?

tough island Apr 14, 2021, 11:30 PM

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tidal musk hello I have a problem with the / server it doesn't work it's normal or not

Permissions?

tidal musk Apr 14, 2021, 11:31 PM

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No problème a command not found

tough island Apr 14, 2021, 11:31 PM

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woven stone Sometimes when I move players using /send they get kicked with msg "Disconnected...

Any errors in waterfall or haproxy.. There'll be something in the logs to help.

tough island Apr 14, 2021, 11:33 PM

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tidal musk No problème a command not found

If you're not getting the /server command then I doubt you're actually connecting to the waterfall... What about something like /glist

tidal musk Apr 14, 2021, 11:34 PM

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I can't see I'm French and me he and 1:34 in the morning

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and the / glist doesn't work either but the / end works

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@tough island

tough island Apr 14, 2021, 11:38 PM

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Yep so you're connecting to the server directly not the proxy

tidal musk Apr 14, 2021, 11:40 PM

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no I go through the proxy

tough island Apr 15, 2021, 12:02 AM

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Do you see your connections in the proxy logs?

tidal musk Apr 15, 2021, 10:16 AM

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📎 latest.log

tulip surgeBOT Apr 15, 2021, 10:16 AM

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tidal musk

latest.log

https://paste.gg/Pencil/2df55d49b04445fe815ed23bd95c834c

reef fulcrum Apr 15, 2021, 10:16 AM

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Update.

tidal musk Apr 15, 2021, 10:18 AM

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?

reef fulcrum Apr 15, 2021, 10:19 AM

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that version of waterfall is literally YEARS outdated

tidal musk Apr 15, 2021, 10:20 AM

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well yes but the last will not work with 1.12.2