waterfall-help

[unreal stag]

Turns out, I had a mitigation tucked away in a corner. It works so I've released Velocity 1.0.6 with the fix

[torpid fable]

is there a ServerCommandEvent equivalent with waterfall?

[wheat aurora]

Hey guys, how much RAM would you recommend for Waterfall on a 20 slot server? Would 256MB be enough or rather do 512?

[lime breach]

512to be safe

[wheat aurora]

Alright, tyty

[leaden stone]

Hey guys is anyone able to get their serverlistings to show their playerlist while using WaterFall?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669916943058468884/698905612045516850/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669916943058468884/698905671525204119/unknown.png

[covert portal]

Enable the query and make sure 25565/udp is forwarded.

[leaden stone]

does it have to be on port 25565?

[covert portal]

Depends on how the server lists checks it, but no.

Set it to be the same as your port.

[leaden stone]

ah kk

wdym by udp is forwarded

[covert portal]

Port forwarded.

[leaden stone]

still dk what that means lol

what would i have to do in config.yml for that

[covert portal]

Nothing in the config, but on your server/host.

[leaden stone]

I'm using a Hetzner Dedicated Server on Ubuntu

Would udp port forwarding be already on with this or would I have to configure it myself

[covert portal]

By default everything is forwarded.

[leaden stone]

Hmng

that's annoying

[cursive leaf]

Hello everyone,

I need help with a JVM related question, regarding the Xms and Xmx flags. I am putting up a server with 16GB of RAM and 8 v-cores. What are the recommended values for these flags?

I'm not sure if I should leave a GB free for OS or if I should put it all on the JVM.

[cosmic sleet]

If you don't leave any memory left for the OS it will most likely crash

.flags

[marble kelp]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

[cosmic sleet]

Oh wait this is waterfall, yeh you don't need much probs just use 1 gig and I don't think any flags are needed

[cursive leaf]

Like this, then?

java -Xms17G -Xmx17G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:-OmitStackTraceInFastThrow -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch  -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=8 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=true -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar paperclip.jar nogui

[cosmic sleet]

That's for a paper server we're in #waterfall-help btw

[cursive leaf]

oh damn 😦

sorry

First time here

[cosmic sleet]

np, not that big of a deal

[cursive leaf]

Should I repost my question on the other channel?

[cosmic sleet]

Probably but to answer your question if you have 16 gigs max in a server Xmx/Xms 17G will not work, use 10-14 to leave some for the OS

[chrome edge]

quick (maybe stupid question)
but as i understand waterfall is a proxy / load balancer thing right?

[cosmic sleet]

Yes

[chrome edge]

cool thanks then i will use that

[kind karma]

waterfall is not a load balancer

[chrome edge]

hhhm

[half quiver]

Hello, I need someone to help me set up waterfall

I set up my bungee cord network first, then I was told to set up waterfall since I'm using paper

but now it's just not working

I'm getting a warning btw of "Forced host server pvp is not defined" and "Could not bind to host /0.0.0.0:25577"

not sure if this is bad or aynthing

[covert portal]

You can ignore it.

[reef fulcrum]

you can ignore the first one

Could not bind to host

is one you'll have to look into, something else is probably running on that port, e.g. bungeecord

But, waterfall is a fork of bungee, bungee itself works fine with paper, and waterfall is a drop-in replacement to bungee

[half quiver]

wait nvm

turns out filezilla doesn't exactly update after refreshing

XD

ok so I have it kind of working

now it says "Kicked whilst connecting to <server name in this case, 'test'>: You have to join through a proxy."

Except for the fact that I am connecting through the proxy :L

[reef fulcrum]

you didn't setup ip forwarding properly

[half quiver]

I have it set up though

I have ip forwarding set to true on the config.yml for waterfall

and for the other servers

[reef fulcrum]

apparently not, that message checks for a specific bit of info which is passed by the proxy

if you're seeing that message, that info either wasn't sent, i.e. ip_forward is disabled, you connected directly to the server, or some plugin managed to break something

[half quiver]

well I am using a plugin called ipwhitelist

and I already whitelisted the ip

of the proxy server

for each of the normal servers, such as "hub" and "test", I have in spigot.yml set bungee-cord to true

[reef fulcrum]

use BungeeGuard

[half quiver]

hm ok

[reef fulcrum]

that plugin is basically flawed as all heck

[half quiver]

oH

interesting ok

is it ok if I ping you once I install it and have more issues potentially?

[reef fulcrum]

no

just ask the channel, if I'm around, I'll answer, if not, there is generally other people around

[half quiver]

alrighty

[half quiver]

it works! thank you!

[agile sigil]

Hey,
For Paper, it exist a optimised java argument, and for Watterfall ?

(For paper: https://mcflags.emc.gs/ )

[marble kelp]

just make sure you use G1GC

[dreamy citrus]

what flags are good for watterfal ?

[reef fulcrum]

the ones linked should be fine

[dreamy citrus]

i use

java -Xms512M -Xmx3G -XX:+UseG1GC -jar Waterfall.jar

it's good you think ?

[cold notch]

.flags

[marble kelp]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

[cold notch]

oops didnt read channel n ame

[dreamy citrus]

xD yup

[latent yew]

Hello does any documents to config waterfall.yml? idk thanks!

@unique linden can u help me sir 😛

[reef fulcrum]

Please don't ping random people

[unique linden]

im also one of the least experienced with waterfall stuff

[latent yew]

sorry & thanks!

[unique linden]

dont use my mc flags on waterfall

[reef fulcrum]

Quite simply, there is no documentation on that stuff, was lost and never re-created, but, a lot of the options are self explanitory for the people they're relevant for and in general should be left alone

[latent yew]

thanks!

[hardy harbor]

ello good, I read some posts that said that you could connect two different servers using bungeecord. Is this possible?

Kind:

host 1 -> waterfall -> prelobby -> lobby ->
host 2 -> waterfall -> survival 1

Or the other thing I ask if it is possible is the following:

Host -> waterfall 1 -> prelobby -> lobby
Host -> waterfall 2 -> survival 1
(They are the same hosts but with different bungeecord. Is this possible?)

[boreal latch]

Hey, quick question. Would Bungeecord/Waterfall run better on a single core clocked at 4.7Ghz or multiple cores (maybe 4) clocked at 3Ghz?

[reef fulcrum]

it's a proxy, it connects to whatever you configure it to connect to

[frail brook]

@boreal latch Waterfall benefits from multiple cores

[boreal latch]

so how much does core speed affect things? would it run fine on 2Ghz if I used 12 cores?

[frail brook]

Yes, it probably would, it's very lightweight

There's no "main thread" to tick

[boreal latch]

I am also using like 8 bungee plugins sooooo

idk how much that will hurt the cpu

[frail brook]

It depends on the plugins, but plugins run on multiple threads

[boreal latch]

ok, im just trying to decide between 2 cores at 4.7Ghz, and 4-6 cores at 3Ghz

tough choices

[frail brook]

I'd say go for the cheapest choice and if you notice high cpu usage, upgrade later

because even a cheap machine can handle 100s of players with waterfall

[boreal latch]

well currently I have a 2vcores at 2Ghz maxing out with 30 players online

[frail brook]

o:

I wonder if your vcores are really slow or if your plugins are pretty heavy

Because it should handle more than that

In any case, you can just get more core, it's usually cheaper and waterfall will use them

[boreal latch]

ok

[lean zenith]

Does anyone know of a plugin to run commands from server through proxy to another server? Currently trying to use Dispatcher and MultiSockets, but sadly it only seemed to of worked on localhost servers and not on actually public servers.

[pale terrace]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solid condor]

Hey, I moved to a new hosting. I have been using a MariaDB database to sync my data between servers. Now, the database times out after few minutes of working making my server totally unusable. Any experience with something similar?

[kind karma]

not a waterfall issue.

[tidal musk]

dont use my mc flags on waterfall
@unique linden why

[unique linden]

waterfall isnt minecraft

you dont put jet fuel in cars

[tidal musk]

So does not exist flags for waterfall?

:/

[unique linden]

just use -XX:+UseG1GC and -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M and your Xmx/Xms flags

thats all you need

[tidal musk]

Ok

zAikar is possible to use 2 proxy?

Like

[unique linden]

see RedisBungee

[tidal musk]

minely.net > Waterfall 1 > Lobby 1
minely.net > Waterfall 2 > Lobby 1

Is that possible?

yes

How

wdym how lol

just set up two proxies

Yes but how i connect to these 2 proxies with the same ip

[unique linden]

Recommended flags for waterfall is simply:
java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=4M -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -jar waterfall.jar

Just adjust Xms/Xmx to your needs.

[tidal musk]

get yourself two IP addresses

[unique linden]

ok forgot a few, there's updated list for WF

[tidal musk]

or use SRV reconds

[tidal musk]

aikar, Xmx1000M and Xms1000M

remove =

or use SRV reconds
@tidal musk I what to use the same dns address

[unique linden]

oops

[tidal musk]

also isn't 1000M bit excessive?

512M is more than enough

The waterfall will change when you refresh the minecraft servers list

[unique linden]

more memory = better G1

[tidal musk]

/shrug

SpokeyTV, how have you set it up right now?

[unique linden]

i said adjust to needs 😛

thats also why i wrote it in M

[tidal musk]

one proxy instance bound to :25565?

SpokeyTV, how have you set it up right now?
@tidal musk 25565

you can still add SRV records

just one points to 25565

with the same dns?

and other one to idk, 25566

whatever different port you desire

you can't make two proxies listen on same port

unless you introduce additional proxy in front of them

So when u refresh the minecraft servers list you will see the waterfall 1 or waterfall 2?

yes

you'll see either of them

gg

unless you introduce additional proxy in front of them

and dear god not another waterfall proxy, look into haproxy or nginx if you want to do that.

I need it bcs i have ip tables on waterfall 1 and i need to upgrade for 1 more proxy

zAikar how can i change waterfall config directory?

i'm not aikar but you can't

But i can change spigot config directory '-

you can't do that with bungee, simply run java command in different directory

I use the same files on all my pape.yml, spigot.yml, server.properties, bukkit.yml, commands.yml, permissions.yml

i got it. that does not change the fact that you can't do that with proxy

yes

But i cant --waterfall-settings /dir ?

@tidal musk i have 1 more question wtih proxies

Can i setup this:

proxy 1 > proxy 2 > proxy 3 > Lobby 1

run waterfall jar with --help

can you see --waterfall-settings?

No

did you try setting that flag?

what do you conclude?

Not yet

i've mentioned twice that you can't do that

you can chain proxies but why do you need to do that?

Can i setup this:

proxy 1 > proxy 2 > proxy 3 > Lobby 1

i saw your question, no need to post it multiple times

I need to do bcs of the massive connections

So i set iptables on proxy 3

"set iptables"

what does that even mean?

When u run will run an bot attack, the server keeps online

iptables has many uses

limit connections per second

Limit max connections per ip

you can set up unlimited proxies next to each other, nothing stops you from doing that

Gg thanks !!!

you can freely set up like 2000 of them and make them connect to a single lobby

Yes

But what i need is when u connect to proxy 1 o will connect to proxy 2 and then lobby

so you want proxy to connect to a proxy

why do you need to do that

or what?

When u run will run an bot attack, the server keeps online with the iptables on the second port

if proxy 1 connects to proxy 2 and proxy 2 connects to the lobby

ugh

can you idk

draw the topology somewhere?

So

Client > serverlist > Minely.net > Connecting > Proxy 1 > Proxy 2 > Lobby1

.g draw online

[marble kelp]

(DiscordBot) https://sketch.io/sketchpad/ -- Sketchpad 5.1 - Draw, Create, Share!: "Sketchpad: Free online drawing application for all ages. Create digital artwork to share online and export to popular image formats JPEG, PNG, SVG,..."

[tidal musk]

Is the same thing

you mean something like this?

No

or this?

This

that's gonna fail

Why

if people ddos your proxy 0

then nobody can reach proxy 1

making your setup completely pointless

Yes but the proxy 0 dont will send the player to proxy 1 and then lobby?

but if proxy 0 is down then proxy 1 cannot be reached at all lol

if you want to set up multiple proxies to resist against ddos attacks

then you need to build the network like i drawed on the first picture

heck, on large scale ddos your machine's bandwidth will be tortured anyway so you should rather look into actual ddos protection

Ok thanks

[empty bison]

How can i remove the spaming of the console?

And saving in the log

[kind karma]

java -jar ... > /dev/null

[tidal musk]

java -jar ... > /dev/null
@kind karma this is for what?

[tidal musk]

What type of spam?

[kind karma]

i dont actually understand why would you do that

[tidal musk]

if you hide the warnings/spam then there are no problems

if you think logically now

less you know the better

:)

[kind karma]

unacceptable

[balmy sorrel]

Hey guys, when setting max hp of a player in a server, for example, 30 max hp (15 hearts), and then the player moves servers, he still sees the extra hearts (black and have no funcionality), is there a known fix to this?

[reef fulcrum]

Erm

that's literally just how the client works

nor is this the right channel

[marble kelp]

I feel like this is something that the proxy should care about though imo

like send the packet to reset it to the original or something

[reef fulcrum]

I erm

totes misread the "player moves servers"

[balmy sorrel]

Sorry I typed that fast and perhaps I didn't explain myself well.

-> Player in Server 1 -> I set his maxHealth to 30 with AttributeInstance GENERIC_MAX_HEALTH - all is good
-> Player moves to Server 2 -> Technically, he just has 20 max health (default) but black hearts are shown - saturation doesn't fill them up, so they are "ghosts"```

[eternal cairn]

I know this is an unusual question and situation, but oh well. How would I make a waterfall instance forward to another waterfall instance?
We've got players whose countries ban the main server's IP range, so we have to have another bungeecord instance up for this. It works, I suppose, as it's configured to just hook straight into the survival server, but we can't punish them (ban, kick, etc.) from the main proxy, and they can't message across proxies (lesser issue, main is punishments).
The easiest fix would obviously just have the new server be a proxy into the main server, as if it's a VPN. How would I go about this, and we're fine with not necessarily using waterfall itself, so long as we don't have to use the proxy format as HAProxy seems a little over the top..

[covert portal]

What about Redis?

[marble kelp]

you don't, you run them in parallel and sync information

basically you want another proxy like haproxy in front which can forward ip and stuff when you really want to do the chaining

[zealous grail]

Is it possible to slow down the allowed connections to the server?

[marble kelp]

there's a connection-throthle in one of the config files iirc

*throttle

[zealous grail]

connection_throttle_limit and connection_throttle

right thanks

i'll check the wikis / documents for rest

[blazing kraken]

Earlier today, someone joined my server via my account. I believe the way they did this was because my paper servers are in offline mode, to allow for proxy connections.
I am trying to basically prevent someone from connecting to everything but my main ip on the 25565 port.

I was thinking of using a firewall on my ubuntu server which is what I have seen other people do, but I am not sure how to go about doing it so everything is secure and safe when I am done.

[reef fulcrum]

if everything is on one server, you shouldn't be exposing the servers to the public network

bind the servers to localhost, or if on ptero/docker, use the network interface that those provide for binding the servers

[blazing kraken]

all servers have localhost set as the IP i belive

in the server.properties or whatever

[reef fulcrum]

unless the servers are exposed to the public, they can't join them like that

[hallow echo]

I got a question, if I make my server under bungee, will I gain perfs ?

As antibot, login system etc will be on the bungee and not the server

( I see the ".try" come to me ahah)

[lime breach]

Yeah connections will be handled better

[balmy sorrel]

@blazing kraken Consider setting up firewall rules, my servers were with 127.0.0.1 too but from outside I could still join

[fossil nacelle]

If one of my servers is on floating-ip

how do I setup the waterfall to make the server still connectable if the server changes ip?

Now I need to manually restart the waterfall... 😦

[reef fulcrum]

use 0.0.0.0 as the host IP instead of setting it to a specific IP

Oh, you mean.. greload should work but is apparently having issues

might need to remove the server, greload, and then re-add it, servers changing Ip is a pretty bleh situation

[fossil nacelle]

😦 ok thanks

[blazing kraken]

@balmy sorrel I think I got it setup. I set my spigot side server IPs all to localhost and they don't even show up as pingable or connectable in the server list. The only way to get to them is through the proxy.

[tawdry flax]

A question about Travetine, is the main version of it 1.7.10 and it allows newer protocols, or is the main version of it 1.8 and it allows newer protocols + the 1.7.10 protocol?

[reef fulcrum]

there is no "main" version

[tawdry flax]

So plugins with no 1.7 support works on it?

[reef fulcrum]

Well, the API has changed in the however many years since 1.7 was a thing

So, plugins that specifically care about 1.7 might have issues, but that's basically rare

[tawdry flax]

Okay, thank you

[digital garden]

So I have a paper minecraft server,
I wanna make the switch to waterfall but I cannot find anything on the topic of switching..
Can someone help me out here........

[cosmic sleet]

waterfall is a proxy that connects multiple paper servers, meaning that you can switch between them for example: a lobby, games server and creative

[digital garden]

But for example I have one server,
Will waterfall work?

[cosmic sleet]

If you have 1 paper server there is no need for a waterfall server unless you are planning to add more servers in the future

[digital garden]

Ah because I want to have multiple version support

[cosmic sleet]

I don't think you need waterfall for that I think you can use viaversion for that

[digital garden]

Ah okay

[cosmic sleet]

Oh also viaversion allows future clients to connect whereas viabackwards/rewind allow previous client versions to connect

[digital garden]

Then ill just wait until viabackwards/rewind comes out with 1.15.2

[cosmic sleet]

There is also protocolsupport but I'm not too familiar with it

[green palm]

several...

[lean zenith]

Is there any prevention for DNS attacks out there. Seemed to be some sorts of DoS attacks on my Proxy last night, CPU was hitting high and players pings would go quite high until we are timed out and couldnt re-connect.

Im guessing better firewall set-up would be a thing?

[reef fulcrum]

at the end of the day, if something is exposed to the internet, people can connect to it

DNS attacks wouldn't hit waterfall however lol

not unless you had the query protocol enabled

[lean zenith]

If that was in the config, i've noticed those are false

[tidal musk]

My server says outdated in the server list when it's not help

it's nothing major it's just something that bugs me

[tidal musk]

Caused by: io.netty.resolver.dns.DnsNameResolverTimeoutException: [/8.8.8.8:53] query via UDP timed out after 5000 milliseconds (no stack trace available)

[unreal stag]

you could disable async dns resolution in waterfall.yml

[tidal musk]

no

[acoustic anvil]

what is waterfall

[serene tide]

A proxy

[acoustic anvil]

ok

[hasty tinsel]

Quick q, could I host a 1.16 snapshot world on my waterfall network?

[marble kelp]

no

[lime breach]

no

[stuck nacelle]

Hey, recently I had enormous growth in playerbase, and I saw that waterfall started using a lot of cpu. With 1000 players it was using ~200-300% of i7-7700k@5.0GHz. Is that normal?
I never had so many players online, so it's kinda new to me. Also, what is the limit for single bungee?

[tidal musk]

at that count you should start scaling waterfall instances

[stuck nacelle]

Are there any public sollutions, or should I find dev for that?

[unreal stag]

redisbungee

[marble kelp]

and balance via haproxy or just dns round robin directly

[tidal musk]

nginx > haproxy

[marble kelp]

*any light reverse proxy ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unique linden]

@tidal musk does nginx actually support the proxy protocol for ip pass through?

[tidal musk]

yes

.g nginx tcp stream proxy protocol

[marble kelp]

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[unique linden]

interesting

[marble kelp]

yeah, nginx can do a lot of shit

e.g. it can work as an rtmp streaming server too xD

[latent yew]

hello

Im set "network-compression-threshold=-1" in lobby server does affected for latency?

waterfall + lobby in 1 dedicated server

or all my server? thanks!

[hard mason]

are bungee restarts needed?

[violet shard]

What number is best network compression threshold in waterfall?

[lean zenith]

I left mine at 64, and backend servers -1. Experimented between 64 & 128 and found 64 pretty good.

And then theres some forums saying the proxy should be -1 while the backend servers to be atleast 256. For me -1 on the proxy kept timing people out, so just left it at 64 and -1 on back-ends.

[violet shard]

@lean zenith affect to tps?

[lean zenith]

Dont even think it affects that, its more players connection

And how much bandwidth the servers can handle same to CPU

[latent yew]

so just set 64 in waterfall? thanks!

[plush swift]

zaikar

WARNING: For the time being, it is recommended to stick with Java 8 until plugins are updated.

openjdk version "14" 2020-03-17
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 14+36-1461)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 14+36-1461, mixed mode, sharing)

[dim falcon]

I don't know if this is a malicious server attack or a simple bug.
The waterfall went down after a user accessed the server.

I am not good at English so I use a translator, so please understand even if it is hard to understand.

Error log: https://pastebin.com/trv0J3v5

[modest seal]

so please understand even if it is hard to understand.

lol

[grave quiver]

Hi to all !
I'm new to running/admin a Minecraft server, with Paper & Waterfall 🙂
Last time I had to play it was ten years ago ^^
Anyway, I've got a lot of questions, but I'm only gonna ask three.
1- Can we generate another worlds/servers in game (Waterfall) and with parameters (seed, type..) ?
2- Our main world is vanilla with some plugins, can I make the second server modded with Sponge Forge for example?
3- Can I replace WorldEdit and VoxelSniper with FAWE ? Is it stable enough? And WorldGuard compatible?
Thx !

[strange brook]

1 and 3 have nothing to do with waterfall

2 is basically depends on the mods.

[grave quiver]

Right, I'm gonna ask them in appropriate place
But it's mandatory to create manually a new serveur with a .jar in a directory then add link them to the Waterfall config file ? No way to do this in command in-game ?
For n°2, something like the Valhelsia 2 modpack going to be complicated in a multiplayer way ?

[strange brook]

waterfall is literally just a network proxy

it cannot interact with servers, only with network traffic

you need to manage your backend minecraft servers separately

[grave quiver]

ok thanks !
and the plugin folder inside waterfall folder, whats for ?

[strange brook]

proxy plugins

.paste

[marble kelp]

Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg

[undone steppe]

sry

We updated our waterfall and started as normal. however, it goes down again immediately after the start. without a mistake, here is our log ...
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/7af0314272c742688cc70b23a440a792

better? 😄

[strange brook]

have you tried not pirating plugins

[reef fulcrum]

mfw

[undone steppe]

have you tried not pirating plugins
@strange brook we dont use pirating plugins

[strange brook]

don't ping me

and your plugin seems to disagree with you

but that's between you and your plugins really, not us

[undone steppe]

every plugin we use is bought or was available for free from spigot

-.-

[reef fulcrum]

Well

Your proxy shits the bed when a specific plugin enables

I would go speak to the dev of that plugin

[zinc sapphire]

[20:45:29] [main/INFO]: [AACBungeeConnect] MySQL successfully connected to the database
    
[20:45:29] [main/INFO]: [AACBungeeConnect] Detected Plugin Piracy! Stopping Plugin...
    
[20:45:29] [main/INFO]: -----------===== [AACBungeeConnect] =====-----------
    
[20:45:29] [main/INFO]: The plugin has been successfully activated
    
[20:45:29] [main/INFO]: Plugin by: Nojo | Noah
    
[20:45:29] [main/INFO]: Plugin Version: 1.4.1
    
[20:45:29] [Shutdown Thread/INFO]: Closing pending connections
    
[20:45:29] [main/INFO]: -----------===== [AACBungeeConnect] =====-----------
    
[20:45:29] [main/INFO]: Enabled plugin AACBungeeConnect version 1.4.1 by Nojo | Noah
    
[20:45:29] [Shutdown Thread/INFO]: Disconnecting 0 connections

so it complains about piracy

activates anyway

[undone steppe]

oh i see it

[zinc sapphire]

and then forces it down

[undone steppe]

hmm

[zinc sapphire]

by the looks

[undone steppe]

i update the plugin with a new original download

but actually I just did that

and I had paid the 6.06 € via paypal and then downloaded the plugin

i go test it 😄

[zinc sapphire]

speak to the author about it, maybe their system is just buggy

not much we can do about it though

[undone steppe]

it was a paypal mistake -.- we are online now, thx for helping me 😄

[grave quiver]

proxy plugins
@strange brook So do I need to put Advanced Portals plugin in Waterfall plugin folder or in all of my servers (and EssentialX, WG, WE...). I think it's the second option but not sure

[strange brook]

don't ping me

[tidal musk]

don't ping wiz

[grave quiver]

oups

sorry

[tidal musk]

ok ninja'd

[reef fulcrum]

java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cancelled ServerConnectEvent with no server or disconnect.
    at net.md_5.bungee.UserConnection.connect(UserConnection.java:309) ~[Waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.15-SNAPSHOT:56dda7d:unknown]
    

replicate without plugins

[tidal musk]

that's 100% plugin caused

because i wrote one buggy plugin myself which caused same exception

[lethal igloo]

how can I stop my server from kicking players with the following message "closed by remote host"

[reef fulcrum]

you need to work out what caused the connection to close

[lethal igloo]

it is only happening for this one player

[lethal igloo]

what should I do?

[lethal shale]

Anyone has an issue where the host's port keeps getting reset to 27017?

Every time I start up the waterfall server it gets set to 27017

[reef fulcrum]

nothing in waterfall would do that unless you had some plugin doing it, probs your hosting providers startup stuff or something if you're using one/a control panel

[lethal shale]

I'm using Pterodactyl panel on a dedicated server

So, it ain't the host

I have to see if it's the panel, which wouldn't make too much sense...

[reef fulcrum]

so, probs your panel startup scripts or something

[lethal shale]

This makes no god damn sense...

Actually, nevermind... I was assigning the wrong port to the server... Ffs

[rigid crescent]

waterfall question

i need help whit setting up my waterfall network i am very new to server networks think i can continue working if someone just sends me a link to some kind of wiki
(PS: who do i ping best for this kind of questions)

@vagrant sequoia sorry for the ping but can u help me

[unreal stag]

@rigid crescent pinging random people will not help you get a resolution sooner

[rigid crescent]

its not random i pinged a mod

[unreal stag]

Just follow https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bungeecord-installation/ and instead of putting in a BungeeCord JAR, use the Waterfall JAR instead (the two can be interchanged)

[rigid crescent]

ok thanks

wait a second this is for bungee

@unreal stag

[unreal stag]

Waterfall is a drop-in replacement for Bungee

You use Waterfall instead of Bungee and it works with all the Bungee stuff.

[rigid crescent]

ok

and cofiguration

[unreal stag]

just follow a configuration guide for BungeeCord

Waterfall adds features and fixes bugs in BungeeCord, it's not a 100% separate thing.

[rigid crescent]

@unreal stag

i have spignot.yml paper.yml and bukkit.yml

did i do somthing wrong

[unreal stag]

I don't understand your problem?

[rigid crescent]

i'l just do trial and error

[mighty cloud]

Hi

i have installed a new bungeecord instance for europe players. i installed redis + redisbungee but when i connect to the new bungeecord says that the server is off. Any idea?

[unreal stag]

@mighty cloud Congratulations for breaking the cardinal rule I gave people when they install RedisBungee: don't try to use it to link two proxies in geographically distant locales unless you like pain and misery

Instead, determine if you need to move your server closer to them

[lime breach]

What's redisBungee

[mighty cloud]

oups

[unreal stag]

RedisBungee is intended for high-availability, not high ping "quick fixes" that achieve nothing of the sort, unless you've figured out how to bend space and time

[mighty cloud]

but my servers are in europa is for this reason that i installed a new proxy on eu

[unreal stag]

Okay, that's better, but you weren't clear and I assumed the worst.

[mighty cloud]

but not all the servers are in europe

i have installed a new proxy in europe for the servers that players play from europe

[unreal stag]

...um, yeah, I'm going to refer you to my comment about not trying to do this setup, it only results in no change at best or extra latency at the worst

[mighty cloud]

i try to explain my enviroment

i have 3 servers (two in canada and one in france)

• Prelobby, lobby, mingames, and survival games are in canada (skyblock, etc)
• Sponge servers are in france (pixelmon , modded servers)

today i installed a new proxy in france to support players that play sponge servers which are in france too. But when i try to join with the new ip(france) says that the server is off. Its possible that i need to open another prelobby for eu?¿?

im confused right now XD

[unreal stag]

I don't know why you put servers in two completely different locations (sounds like some sort of stupid OVH out of stock thing though)

Anyway, this Discord is not really a place to get help with RedisBungee. I'd suggest you do basic troubleshooting first.

[mighty cloud]

there are not server abaliables in canada and players that play the servers that i setup in france are from eu

[unreal stag]

The setup still seems extremely illogical to me, but whatever

This is not a RedisBungeee Discord

[mighty cloud]

sad 😢

you can pm for help me ?

its my first time

doing this

[unreal stag]

No. I haven't maintained RedisBungee for more than 3 years now, coming on 4. I am not going to do this.

[lime breach]

I still don't understand

Why can't he just use waterfall?

[unreal stag]

RedisBungee is a plugin for BungeeCord

[lime breach]

Oooooooooooh

[unreal stag]

It works just fine with Waterfall

[lime breach]

I thought it was a BungeeCord fork lmaoo

[mighty cloud]

😦 some one that have two bungeecord instances can help for setup correctly ?

[unreal stag]

@mighty cloud look at https://github.com/minecrafter/RedisBungee/wiki/FAQ#one-of-my-bungees-doesnt-display-the-proper-server-count-or-the-player-list-is-wrong and see if that fixes the problem.

[mighty cloud]

okey

[unreal stag]

but this is not a RedisBungee Discord'

[reef fulcrum]

You can disable the netty dns setting in waterfall.yml if you're having dns issues, some setups just have issues with googles DNS for some reason, could be some networking issues somewhere too 🤷‍♂️

one uses nettys dns stack

the other uses javas

[spiral crater]

mojang been having problems with session servers

at least for me too, i have a plugin that checks their status

this also helps in case it is DNS

-Dnetworkaddress.cache.ttl=15

[kind karma]

because it is not Waterfall's or Paper's issue.

[lethal igloo]

my players keep getting timed out

it's really annoying

anyway I can fix this?

I need help badley

all my players are disconnecting

I need help asap

@tidal musk I have the same issue

[chilly plover]

Does forge 1.15.2 work with Travertine 135?

[lethal igloo]

I host it myself

on a debian server

I'm not sure what to do

literally half my players just left

went from 10 to 5

I'm desperately google searching right now, I'll tell you if I find anything

[brave marlin]

Hello. Just starting out with Waterfall/bungee. I've heard that you will almost always need https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/preventportbypass-the-onlyproxyjoin-alternative.54934/
is this still the case?

[tidal musk]

bungeeguard yeah

[brave marlin]

Alright. So this is for denying cracked client to access my subservers?

Okey because I tested right now to connect to one of my subservers(the hub server) with my vanilla minecraft client and all I got was
"If you wish to use IP forwarding, please enable it in your Bungecoord server as well."

Alright. I thought the message is a bit weird because I've enabled ip forwardning in my bungecoord server... anyway I will install bungeguard.

[foggy turtle]

Hi is this the place to ask if someone wants to help me with my server?:D

[brave marlin]

@tidal musk yay :D

[plush swift]

hi

e3-1275 v5 vs ryzen5 3600?

which is better for minecraft server?

[lethal igloo]

@tidal musk do you think the bug might have something to do with an antivirus?

my players are getting this issue an existing connection was forcibly closed by remote host

[spiral crater]

means its the network connection

bad internet

[lethal igloo]

the server has been running for an entire year without this issue @spiral crater

and this is only happening to a few players

[spiral crater]

internet problems happen ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lethal igloo]

It's really annoying

and it's only happening to select players

I checked every ethernet port, ran an nmap scan

removed the anti virus

Updated protcollib

I don't know what to do now

I really need help

@tidal musk I found a solution to my problem

I had a ping limiter enabled

It's a plugin that kicks people if their ping is too high

[marble kelp]

lol

[lethal igloo]

BungeePinger

Now I have a different problem

theres some readtimeout null error

[crude scarab]

Anyone know this error?

I need help

[reef fulcrum]

NativeIOException

God knows, something caused the connection to close outside of the proxies/JVMs control

[crude scarab]

How can I fix it?

This error is anywhere now

[reef fulcrum]

You'd need to work out what's causing it

[slender slate]

Who can help me

[reef fulcrum]

Please don't ping me

I've already told you all that I can

[crude scarab]

ok

thx for u help

[slender slate]

Is it a problem of setting the waterfall parameter

[reef fulcrum]

outside of the proxies/JVMs control

[slender slate]

This is not a waterfall problem?

[crude scarab]

maybe not

[lavish pebble]

Hey guys my Waterfall presented this problem a few times...

And also after I upgraded to git 327 it has kicked some of my players

[reef fulcrum]

.paste

[marble kelp]

Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg

[lavish pebble]

Sorry

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/6f6f748a5ca44b98b4ebef1568d7a66a

[reef fulcrum]

do you have mods on the server or something?

[lavish pebble]

Some plugins

I'll send a print of them

During the loading of the waterfall, they all load perfectly

[spiral crater]

.mcstatus

[marble kelp]

(DiscordBot) Online: account.mj, api.mj, authserver.mj, session.mc, textures.mc Issues: sessionserver.mj Offline: minecraft.net, mojang.com

[brave marlin]

Hello all. Is there like a standard way to transfer all my players to another bungee server when the server they are in is restarting?

[reef fulcrum]

plugins like MoveMeNow

[brave marlin]

Ok so that requires me to kick them before I restart?

[reef fulcrum]

well, it tries to do then when it disables, but, basically, yea

[brave marlin]

alright.

[marble kelp]

sounds like a plugin

of the magic kind ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[rough warren]

fix your stuff?

[prime zodiac]

hello, is it worth to install waterfall for a little server ?

[brave marlin]

Not really a waterfall question but I want to know how my bungee admin permissions are given to players. Right now I have these listed

permissions:
  default:
  - slashserver.towny
  - slashserver.hub
  - bungeecord.command.server
  - bungeecord.command.list
  admin:
  - bungeecord.command.alert
  - bungeecord.command.end
  - bungeecord.command.ip
  - bungeecord.command.reload

And I'm unable to type /alert or /end in my backend servers because I guess I don't have the admin group. How can I give it to myself?

[marble kelp]

thre's a separate section where you can specify the player to group mapping

ideally you'll want to use a permissions plugin like Luckperms though

[brave marlin]

I'm using Luckperms on my both backend servers and they are synced.

[marble kelp]

then you configure your perms through luckperms, the config.yml stuff wont be used

[brave marlin]

Ok I will try.

[marble kelp]

don't think there is any, the patches that added the setting probably have the most info on them

it's not that many anyways

[foggy turtle]

Hi can I ask server related questions in here?

[tidal musk]

no, only proxy

[normal mantle]

I've had this bug for so long.. A Bunch of my players keep getting kicked from my server when there is nothing wrong with my server?

[23:35:30] [Netty Worker IO Thread #1/INFO]: [/82.43.124.214:52875|SamaelStar] -> UpstreamBridge has disconnected
[23:35:30] [Netty Worker IO Thread #1/INFO]: [/82.43.124.214:52875|SamaelStar] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [towny] has disconnected```

https://pastebin.com/raw/YeDygK8q (error)

[austere solstice]

Just use a bungeetab plugin

If you use a tab plugin for every server and a team already exists,players cant join sometimes bc of that bug

@reef fulcrum sry about tagging you, but is it not possible to add a config option for waterfall to not share the scoreboards?

Or to let the playerjoin not break up with that error

[reef fulcrum]

1. Please don't ping

2. Not the issue

it's not that it's sharing scoreboards

[timber stag]

Okay, I have a forced host setup, e.g. server1.my.site, and server2.my.site. server.my.site is the main IP. All are set to the same A record
Going to server.my.site goes to the the first server in priority, ok good. server1.my.site goes to the right server, however server2.my.site just goes to server1, not server2.
I set up ServerListPlus to give a custom MOTD by forced host, and it shows the correct server2 MOTD, but joining leads me to server1 as detailed. I'm running latest Travertine.
force_default_server is set to false

[spark girder]

is there any startup parameters for the waterfall?

[serene tide]

See pinned message

[spark girder]

okay thanks

sorry

[crude scarab]

Who can help me!

I got this error on bungeecord

When I send player to the another server

[crude scarab]

No body knows?

[lime breach]

are you sure you're not sending him to the same server he's already in?

[reef fulcrum]

NativeIOException

God, I wish people would actually search

But, that's a native IO exception, as it says, pretty much outside of waterfalls control

as for the other one, it says, the address is already in use

[sand steppe]

t f w anime background for ide

[lime breach]

I have them too smh

[crude scarab]

What

are you sure you're not sending him to the same server he's already in?
@lime breach sure

God, I wish people would actually search
But, that's a native IO exception, as it says, pretty much outside of waterfalls control
@reef fulcrum but This error occurs only on Linux

And if the target server is not enable, This error may also occur

This is where I get confused

[lime breach]

you can't connect someone to a server that is not online or not accessible

[crude scarab]

i know

[crude scarab]

Can someone give me some directions for my search

I need help

for NativeIoException

[lime breach]

.g NativeIOException

[marble kelp]

(DiscordBot) https://netty.io/4.0/api/io/netty/channel/unix/Errors.NativeIoException.html -- Errors.NativeIoException (Netty API Reference...: "Class Errors.NativeIoException. java.lang.Object. java.lang.Throwable. java.lang.Exception. java.io.IOException...."

[unreal stag]

I think your problem is CentOS 😉

[lime breach]

[tidal musk]

a n i m e b a c k g r o u n d

bruh

[jaunty crag]

What's the methodology for adding another "connection point" to a waterfall proxy? Aka I have a VM in EU which I aim to use to better peer the traffic from EU to our US server, and I want basically an eu.server.com address that just redirects effectively to the main host?

[jaunty crag]

Side-question, why am I getting this?

[reef fulcrum]

DNS issues, apparently

disabling netty DNS in waterfall.yml miiiight help

But, that more looks like you got network issues 🤷‍♂️

[jaunty crag]

oh cool that worked

[digital harbor]

hi people, may i ask a question ?

I have a strange situation on my little waterfall/paper network, i have problems with tab completion on my paper server behind a waterfall, it sometimes stop suggesting me some commands, is there any fix for this ?

it has not any problem when not using waterfall but only paper

now sometimes my tab completion stops working for this or that command....and sometimes it re functions

[reef fulcrum]

version?

[digital harbor]

lates one 1.15.2

for example now i cannot use essentialsx's /tp command with tabcompleting users, it shows me the command in red as it is not recognised but if i completely manually write it, it functions, but not tab completion

sometimes it restart showing it in tab completion

[haughty nimbus]

Can someone explain why you can't run waterfall/bungee with online-mode servers. I know that there's technically no reason to do it but I'm just curious why that is exactly anyways

[reef fulcrum]

because the auth system doesn't let you

[timber stag]

ok so my priorities are

priorities:
- Server1
- Server2

however if server1 is down, I can't connect at all, even if server2 is up

[reef fulcrum]

it would be a pretty shitty system if you could MITM a secure connection

[tidal musk]

you could technically set up tls between proxy and backend server if you really wanted

well, easier with socat/stunnel/pick your favourite utility + shell scripting

harder with native java ways

[languid epoch]

isnt the big problem then that server owners dont configure their firewalls so you can basicly join a subserver as anyone (by spoofing that you came from bungee)

[tidal musk]

there's BungeeGuard

[reef fulcrum]

literally irrelevant

[haughty nimbus]

i'm just curious about such details. Basically I know that you can setup local protocol hack for yourself to connect with older clients but it's only possible with offline mode servers. that's my use case 🙂 (don't eat me alive tho)

[reef fulcrum]

You can't login to a server and then go log into another server on the same join afaik

[tidal musk]

duck install via on client

smh

that's what i literally do

connected to 1.8.x server using 1.15.2

[haughty nimbus]

nah I'm only doing that to make a bot connect to a server. sadly mineflayer is still on 1.12.2. not sure if there's anything better out there

[languid epoch]

mineflayer got recently updated to 1.13.2

[tidal musk]

.g prismarinejs

[marble kelp]

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/PrismarineJS -- PrismarineJS · GitHub: "Minecraft-compatible server, bot, and API. All written in JavaScript. - PrismarineJS."

[languid epoch]

you can always use node minecraft protocol

[tidal musk]

mineflayer is high level yeah

but protocol library itself isn't that low

it even supports snapshot version lol

20w13b that is

[languid epoch]

well if ur looking for 1.14+ it isnt going to be mineflayer

[tidal musk]

depends what you need to do of course

[languid epoch]

if its just. asimple chat bot u dont need mineflayer

[haughty nimbus]

not actually looking just for a chat bot. wanted to work on some automation stuff for fun. mineflayer has some nice plugins/addons

https://github.com/games647/UniversalProxy/blob/master/Waterfall-Patches/0001-Add-UniversalProxy-changes.patch
I guess this could work right?
I doubt I will mess around with this anyways since too much effort = bad

[tidal musk]

lmao

i wrote similar thing years ago

[haughty nimbus]

did you actually 👀

[tidal musk]

yes

[restive orbit]

Hello everyone, I have a quick question about Travertine! How I'm supposed to make my server accessible to versions 1.15.2 to 1.8

[marble kelp]

ideally you don't

otherwise: plugins like ProtocolSupport or ViaVersion

[restive orbit]

okay thanks bud

[paper hinge]

Hey. Is it still the best way to run a minecraft server on Java 8?

[reef fulcrum]

given that java 8 is basically dead...

stick to the LTSes

[lime breach]

(11)

[jaunty crag]

So I turned on a HAProxy and now I'm getting a lot of this in waterfall console. What'd I miss?

[reef fulcrum]

Connection reset by peer

The connection was closed by something else on the network

[jaunty crag]

Well I have Machine 1 in EU, HAProxy 25565 traffic to destination (Loka actual host with waterfall instance) which has the other HAProxy which is directing 25565 traffic to localhost:25564 (waterfall)

Hmm, what's this? connecting to the eu node?

This is literally the EU box's entire haproxy cfg

which worked when I was running a local waterfall on windows for testing

[tidal musk]

does waterfall have proxy protocol enabled?

[jaunty crag]

it does yeah

Oh, ok fixed the first thing. Removed check, it's a sort of heartbeat thing

Hence the 1s pings from localhost

[tidal musk]

yeah that doesn't quite play well

i didn't even see the check when i read it at first place lol

fuckin tired

[jaunty crag]

I wonder if I need send-proxy. If I disable that on the local host

would connections direct to the server still work? Would that convert the proxy traffic from EU?

[tidal musk]

send-proxy sends PROXY protocol header

which is needed for correct IP address information

[jaunty crag]

oh ok

Now it's just this unexpected packet thing

Huh,

This is the decoded hex of the packet

Which is the first 5 digits of my ip

it's an incomplete ip packet...?!

[reef fulcrum]

pretty sure that you lose some info because of the protocol stuff

[jaunty crag]

hmmm, worked on a local waterfall test

didn't on actual linux host

Ok interesting, got it to work by not forwarding traffic from EUProxy -> USProxy -> Bungee

but skipping the middleman

publicly listening on 25564 and going from EU:25565 -> Loka:25564

now the "Authenticated problem" but that's only from the proxy

which, iirc was that dns netty setting

Does one gain/lose anything with use_netty_dns_resolver: false

[tidal musk]

not much i think

[reef fulcrum]

i kinda keep debating on removing that patch

The fact that it uses googles DNS servers by default is pretty iffy, imho

[pale haven]

Odd that's it's not even a configuration property

Ohh it kinda is

[forest mica]

is there a description what disable-entity-metadata-rewrite option does ? can't find it anywhere

[reef fulcrum]

It does what it says

It disabled the entity metadata rewriting that bungee does in favor of more through client reset

[plucky imp]

I am having an issue with Bungeecord/waterfall setup I would love some support. I have the bungee config.yml ip_forward: true, and in my server/s spigot.yml I have bungeecord set to true.

Still get the lost connection: If you wish to use IP forwarding, please enable it in your BungeeCord config as well! issue. Even after restarting everything.

Using most recent paper and waterfall builds

[reef fulcrum]

you need to connect to the proxy, not the individual servers

[plucky imp]

Yep that was my mistake, thanks. However now I have this issue when trying to use /server <server>

[reef fulcrum]

logs might have more info, but that just means that it faile to connect for some reason

[plucky imp]

Nothing shows in the waterfall console/log unfortunately

Disgregard, I am a big dummy

Those servers weren't online

[midnight topaz]

how i can get the player ip in a plugin?

[native crag]

How do I set Waterfall up? I can't find any videos on this. I setup BungeeCord but I keep getting this message when my friends and I join it. Exception Connecting:QuietException : Server is online mode! My BungeeCord is set to online mode but my other servers aren't.

[marble kelp]

the same way as bungeecord

[tidal musk]

are you connecting bungee to itself? lol

[native crag]

What are you talking about?

[reef fulcrum]

that exception is thrown whenever the proxy recieves a login packet from the server

Or, well, from whatever you told it to connect to

[native crag]

So how do I fix that?

[pearl sierra]

Guys, someone know any plugin to random teleport in another world from spawn that doesn't make the server lag?

[marble kelp]

.g phoenix616 randomteleport

(phoenix616) https://github.com/Phoenix616/RandomTeleport -- Phoenix616/RandomTeleport: Bukkit plugin which lets you ......: "Bukkit plugin which lets you teleport players to random locations. [v2: 1.12 - 1.15.2] - Phoenix616/RandomTeleport."

runs

also wrong channel 👀

[hard mason]

do irestart my bungee daily?

[rain loom]

can i connect spigot servers with waterfall

or only paper

[hard mason]

Error authenticating player with minecraft.net

9 player from the 12 got kicked due that error

[bitter lark]

yea mojang is having issues

[hard mason]

Ah ok good

Thanks

Glad its not me

[bitter lark]

https://mcsrvstat.us/

it's picking up now... kinda

was dead awhile ago

session service

[hard mason]

Ty

[tidal musk]

how can i find waterfall 1.12.2

[lean zenith]

Why not just use the latest that has 1.8 - 1.15 support?

[tidal musk]

wait

is it comes with all versions?

[lean zenith]

Yes

[tidal musk]

oh thank u

[tidal musk]

it says command not found when i type stop

how can i stop server?

[zinc sapphire]

It’s end in bungee/waterfall

[tidal musk]

oh okey

it says 1.15 snapshot

will it cause problems?

i think i downloaded beta vers

[zinc sapphire]

Won’t cause any issues, all the versions have -snapshot behind them

[tidal musk]

okey thanks for answering. have a good day.

[zinc sapphire]

You as well o/

[tidal musk]

i got confuse

i got fake lobby

and waterfall

which one i should put 25565 (i am talking bout ports)

which one should use 25565 port

[zinc sapphire]

Waterfall sits on 25565

[tidal musk]

okey

[zinc sapphire]

Backends get bound to local host on other ports

If there’s multiple machines just make sure they’re fire walled properly

[tidal musk]

no i am using a machine.

[zinc sapphire]

You do not want players to be able to connect directly to the backend servers

All connections should go through the proxy

[tidal musk]

thankss

https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JDm2MT8xTp/

why it isnt working?

i think something wrong in conf

fixed. waterfall server must set on 0.0.0.0

getting this error all the time.

oh i think i solved

azure needs openin port.

nope aint worked.

solved. it's about my sh*tty server

[tidal musk]

how to prevent that people join from other ports? i found a plugin called preventportbypass, but it says change bungee's ip to real ip from 0.0.0.0 when i did this, waterfall can't connect to network.

[tidal musk]

BungeeGuard

[delicate root]

Hello, Waterfall is compatible with the 1.16 ? please (thank you for mentioning me to answer me)

[tidal musk]

1.16 isn't even out yet?

.g minecraft 1.16 release date

[marble kelp]

(DiscordBot) https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Java_Edition_1.16 -- Java Edition 1.16 – Official Minecraft Wiki: "1.16 is an upcoming major update to Java Edition that overhauls the Nether, set to release in the first half of 2020. This update was announced at..."

[delicate root]

@tidal musk I want to say the snapshots from 1.16.

[balmy sorrel]

What are the thoughts on FlameCord guys?

[reef fulcrum]

Nothing to do with us

[lean zenith]

Yeah wrong place

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, my stance is is that if you actually have improvements to a chain of tooling which is open source, you should actually look intro contributing your changes back instead of locking them up

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #328: FAILURE in 1 min 59 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/328/

[reef fulcrum]

mfw

[kind karma]

@reef fulcrum I can open my fork with 'exploit' fixes included

since md_5 is dead

[reef fulcrum]

Oh god

I see why that broke

Well, I don't

But, that's annoying

erm...

I forgot about the whole javadocs being crappy thing in newer versions of java...

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #329: STILL FAILING in 1 min 40 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/329/

[zinc sapphire]

isnt that just the most demoralizing failure message there ever was :^)

[reef fulcrum]

THX ORACLE

i think that miight be down to the java build

well, at least now..

[zinc sapphire]

did you flip it to 11

[reef fulcrum]

Yes

[zinc sapphire]

yes thatll do that now

there's a flag you can set in the pom somewhere to tell it to shut up

[reef fulcrum]

I'm building against 11 locally just fine... :L

[zinc sapphire]

are you building the docs though?

[reef fulcrum]

yup

[zinc sapphire]

Ill give it a try and see if mine does the same

[reef fulcrum]

Tbqh, it looks like the version of the JDK on the server is outdated

Well, I mean, it is

[zinc sapphire]

they havent changed anything there afaik

[reef fulcrum]

https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8212233

hm, actually, that suggests that the javadoc plugin too needs the source leve l set

[zinc sapphire]

our version is newer than the one marked resolved in that ticket

[reef fulcrum]

Okay

[zinc sapphire]

I can bump it again if you think it'd fix it

but uh

[reef fulcrum]

setting the source level causes it locally

Without it works fine

[zinc sapphire]

we're on jdk-11.0.5+10 for that specific version

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #330: STILL FAILING in 1 min 36 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/330/

[reef fulcrum]

if you can bump it sometime, that would be nice, that's the only real difference between jenkins and locally that I know about, and somehow, it works locally... failing that, imma have to throw up a VM locally or something to see if I can figure out tf is going on there

[zinc sapphire]

works fine here under wsl2

Ill see about bumping that

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #331: STILL FAILING in 1 min 41 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/331/

[zinc sapphire]

now at jdk-11.0.7+10

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #332: STILL FAILING in 1 min 46 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/332/

[zinc sapphire]

reeeeee

[marble kelp]

rip

[zinc sapphire]

why the hell doesnt that repro locally

oh great it works everywhere but in jenkins

jenkins wut r u doin

[zinc sapphire]

for some reason it works fine as my user but not as jenkins user even outside of jenkins

gonna have to start digging through the environment

slow going because working too

[reef fulcrum]

fwiw, I did remove the cd into Waterfall-Proxy as it was causing some issues, pretty sure that's because the cause of a few oddball moments, which just o.O

[zinc sapphire]

that's fine I dont think it hurt anything

I dont remember why that was added anyway

@reef fulcrum we only care about Waterfall-Proxy right?

eli5 bungee structure

[reef fulcrum]

basically, yes

wut you thinking?

[zinc sapphire]

looks like the CI is running that root pom

not waterfall-proxy's

and Im not yet clear why, but it only bitches on the root pom

well, the javadocs task appears to be

actual build looks to be using waterfall-proxy right

[reef fulcrum]

See, I've had issues locally from building in Waterfall-Proxy, hence why I pulled the cd out of last task

If it is still running inside Waterfall-Proxy, that could maybe be it? o.O

[zinc sapphire]

Im just running it interactively as the jenkins user atm

[reef fulcrum]

But, there is nothing in -Super which would explain why I've had any difference between the two

[zinc sapphire]

did you bump -proxy's java version without super's?

[reef fulcrum]

super doesn't have the java version set

[zinc sapphire]

then its running under Java 5

but there's no actual source

so idk why that'd matter

and on another user on the same system it doesnt

builds from either just fine

grrr

[spiral crater]

.mcstatus

[marble kelp]

(DiscordBot) Online: account.mj, api.mj, authserver.mj, session.mc, textures.mc Offline: minecraft.net, mojang.com, sessionserver.mj

[spiral crater]

yet i can still log on

why report something down when it isnt

[zinc sapphire]

could be that its hitting a different endpoint

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #333: STILL FAILING in 1 min 36 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/333/

[zinc sapphire]

or just that the endpoint its using is outdated, cloudbot is old

ERROR] Failed to execute goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-deploy-plugin:2.7:deploy (default-deploy) on project waterfall-super: Deployment failed: repository element was not specified in the POM inside distributionManagement element or in -DaltDeploymentRepository=id::layout::url parameter -> [Help 1]

so thats why that cd was there

[spiral crater]

it says its down on https://status.mojang.com/check as well lol

[reef fulcrum]

Well, that would explain that one

[zinc sapphire]

I think i fixed the javadoc issue

guess we'll see

re-rolls

stormycloud dot jpeg all over waterfall's build history

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #334: STILL FAILING in 1 min 38 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/334/

[zinc sapphire]

/delombok/net/md_5/bungee/api/plugin/Plugin.java:38: error: package org.slf4j does not exist

wat

[reef fulcrum]

Yea, that's what I get locally when I build in -Proxy

[zinc sapphire]

uh well I guess its good we've synchronized the errors

why does it build fine in proxy outside of jenkins

tf

ugh

all the deploy stuff in pom is in the waterfall-proxy pom though

[reef fulcrum]

ah, it's building fine in -Proxy now o.O

[zinc sapphire]

this is why I dont do anything with this proxy stuff

somehow paper's build system seems sane now

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #335: STILL FAILING in 1 min 41 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/335/

Project Waterfall build #336: STILL FAILING in 1 min 37 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/336/

[zinc sapphire]

uh well it builds fine under parent but there's no deploy info on parent

I have no idea why it matters

I tried to manually specify the repo id and url but apparently it ignored me :c

[reef fulcrum]

hmmm

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #337: STILL FAILING in 1 min 40 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/337/

[zinc sapphire]

.lombok

[marble kelp]

[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, I figured out how to pass the repo info in

But then, just... yea...

[stable lintel]

.mcstatus

[marble kelp]

(DiscordBot) Online: account.mj, api.mj, authserver.mj, session.mc, textures.mc Offline: minecraft.net, mojang.com, sessionserver.mj

[zinc sapphire]

can we just stick the repo on the parent pom and be done?

I have no idea what delombok does that it matters it cant run from the module

but apparently just some of the time

[reef fulcrum]

if that works, yea; Am honestly out of ideas and brain juice, so next step for me is to just throw it back lol

[zinc sapphire]

I cant repro the original issue anymore

I did find a discrepancy with javac that I'd expect jenkins to override, but since I sorted that out its not come back up

[rain loom]

why does my waterfall server keep saying its in online mode when its not

nvm

all fixed i just set online mode to false

in the default server

not just the proxy

[frail brook]

https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/

what... what happened here

[reef fulcrum]

scrolls up

rees

[faint yarrow]

I'm having an issue. My spigot server is setup in offline mode, bucket mode enabled. But when my players connect through the hub server their UUID's are registered as offline mode instead of online. So all of their player data is effectively reset. But when I change my server back to online mode it's all there. I traced the issue back to the waterfall jar that I'm using on the proxy and have no idea how to solve this issue. I assume its a setup fault and was wondering if there is a guide or if you can walk me through the steps in order to make this work. I noticed a new .yml file titled "paper" in my server files now and it has other nodes in there to include bungee-online-mode: and velocity-support: enabled: false online-mode: false.
Do I need to have the paper extension running on my spigot server? Or do I need to be using a different jar other than spigot in order for the waterfall jar to recognize it? Anything will be helpful thank you!

[marble kelp]

tf is "bucket mode"?

you want to enable ip-forwarding in bungee's config.yml and bungeecord in the spigot.yml

[tardy shadow]

Whats up wit hthis?

[strange brook]

failing builds prob

[marble kelp]

recent builds failed so that's probably why

[strange brook]

just hit more and grab the last successful from CI

[marble kelp]

Yippee, build fixed!

Project Waterfall build #338: FIXED in 2 min 56 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/338/

[reef fulcrum]

bumped it back to 8 for now, maybe I'll go on another adventure next time I hate myself

[inner imp]

is there a guide somewhere for getting started on modded waterfall servers?

with forge

[inner imp]

well I got it working almost but it says

when trying to join even tho I have them all on my client

[faint yarrow]

tf is "bucket mode"?
@phoenix616#0000 That's what I meant I wrote that on my lunch break didn't have much time, Ip-forwarding is enabled everything is setup like the wiki pages it still is using the wrong UUID's

Has anyone else had issues with the UUID's? I can't figure it out at all

[old oyster]

Does anyone have a problem where 1.8 servers become unconnectable randomly through Waterfall?

Other server versions are fine

It gets stuck connecting then eventually it times out

This began happening as we switched from Bungee to Waterfall

[reef fulcrum]

You have to have a modded lobby so that it will do all the handshake stuff

Or, at least, some plugin that will caux the client and proxy into handshaking with one another

[burnt vale]

I'm using legit mc account

[reef fulcrum]

the backend servers need to be in offline mode

[burnt vale]

why?

[reef fulcrum]

read the bungee installation instructions properly

[burnt vale]

k

[lime breach]

the proxy does the auth

[reef fulcrum]

Because it would be pretty shitty if mojang made it easy to MITM a connection to the server

[burnt vale]

Also sorry, there is no installation info in Waterfall README

[lime breach]

read the BungeeCord documentation

[elfin crypt]

Hi. Please help me, how can I change this writing?

[reef fulcrum]

you can change the version numbers shown there in waterfall.yml

game_version lets you shove whatever you want in place of the versions

[elfin crypt]

Thank you

[inner imp]

what if you use forge what would you put in there?

and like I cant put connection throttling in anywhere in my spongeforge servers

there is no option

[reef fulcrum]

what?

[inner imp]

so I have 2 spongeforge servers set up, the hub and main server, the waterfall server has an option for connection throttling which is 4000

but the other 2 spongeforge servers don't so they set their default to 4000 so it wouldn't connect

like it said in the bungeecord docs

[reef fulcrum]

that's the connection throttle to connect to the proxy, it has nothing to o with the backend servers

the backend servers themselves will need connection throttling disabled behind bungee, given everything comes from one IP, you'd need to ask them/their documentation about that one if that's an issue

[inner imp]

https://i.imgur.com/m9H0ySp.jpg

yeaaah

cant find it in spongeforge

[reef fulcrum]

That connection throttle is something added by CB, no idea if sponge has their own or not

[marble kelp]

Project Waterfall build #339: SUCCESS in 2 min 58 sec: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Waterfall/339/

[half quiver]

ok so I'm getting some major terrible issues?

i have no idea

https://hastebin.com/katazowame.cs also this but this was earlier before I did a restart

[reef fulcrum]

sounds like you replaced the jar or something while it was running

[half quiver]

I didn't know

tho*

lol

[reef fulcrum]

either that or something screwed up the classloaders

[half quiver]

yeahh

idek xD

so now it works

it stopped the server again

and then it downloaded new bungee modules

weird

[reef fulcrum]

then it downloaded new bungee modules

So, the jar was updated

[half quiver]

ah so basically needed an update

[reef fulcrum]

Are you using a shared host?

[half quiver]

uh maybe i think so

i mean its on a dedicated ip

but like shared as in vps?

[reef fulcrum]

means that it's basically managed by somebody else

[half quiver]

ah yes