waterfall-help

[marble kelp]

you literally just set them to localhost

instead of the public address you specified before

[errant pivot]

address: 172.18.0.1:29555?

or like localhost:29555

gonna stick to bungeeguard for now until i learn this completly

[marble kelp]

I mean if you have specified localhost as the server-ip in the server.properties then you are pretty much safe

[errant pivot]

ah ok, gonna try there

server-ip=localhost
still able to connect through local host bungeecord

[marble kelp]

well if the server is running on the same machine

then yes

otherwise you didn't properly set that

[bronze sinew]

how do you have the bot tag tf

[marble kelp]

no

you need a plugin for that

[reef fulcrum]

For the one case where bungee actually supports that

It's very unreliable

[marble kelp]

if a server crashes the proxy tries to not disconnect the user and move them to the fallback server

[reef fulcrum]

You need a plugin if you want something to potentially handle it sanely

[marble kelp]

however in all cases where the backend server actually wants the player to disconnect it will just do that

[reef fulcrum]

Because it's not something sane

Did they disconnect because you banned them and want them off the network? Did the server stop?

Idk why existing plugins wouldn't work, not like any of that stuff had changed in years

[marble kelp]

plenty of plugins adding that functionality exist (and work on latest)

really no need to bloat the proxy

[reef fulcrum]

How do we know that a server shut down?

How do we know that you didn't kick the player expecting them to be booted from the network?

That was why bungee doesn't do that, and I'm inclined to agree

[surreal relic]

19c7017b227472616e736c617465223a

This is from me trying to connect to version 9.1.5 Pixelmon Reforged Server on 1.16.5

I can't seem to find a concise answer from anywhere, I don't know if it's a waterfall issue or a pixelmon issue.

[tough vale]

Mods and 1.13+ proxies don't mix unfortunately

[surreal relic]

Ah.

Do 1.13+ modded servers usually just forgo the proxies?

Or would something like velocity work better for this (?)

I've just joined a different server by the looks they use a proxy for the pixelmon server.

A lot of these servers are using Proxies by the looks.

[surreal relic]

Yeah, I reinstalled the modpack seems to be having the same issue.

ServerConnector [pixelmon] - encountered exception: net.md_5.bungee.util.QuietException: Unexpected packet received during server login process!

This is a waterfall issue by the looks as I tried without proxy and could connect just fine. Screenshot above is an example of a server that has both 1.12.2 and 1.6.15 and 1.20 working under a proxy. AFAIK Velocity doesn't do <1.13 and Waterfall doesn't do >1.13 how can this be?

Unless I got something wrong and I'm missing something.

[surreal relic]

Still awaiting input . How can I have 1.12.2 mod packs and 1.13+ on same proxy?

[reef fulcrum]

We don't support modern forge, it's pretty much impossible to do so without client mods

Pixelmon AFAIK has their own modded version of velocity which works for their environment essentially

[craggy trout]

You can try to use ligthfall, but needs a mod side client

[dusky nimbus]

you can use ultimateautorestart bungeecord addon which sets up fallback server

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/1-8-1-20-1-ultimateautorestart-bungeepassthrough.74359/

[uneven thorn]

how can i switch from bungeecord to waterfall, do i just replace the bungeecord.jar with waterfalls?

[craggy trout]

Probably it's better to do from new-setup to get exact values from Waterfall, how ever this won't change too much

[reef surge]

can fabric join on waterfall?

since forge can?

[marble kelp]

depends on the mods used

[reef surge]

well fabric cant join

[marble kelp]

with what error?

and most likely due to the mods being used as fabric alone (even with only client-side mods) works just fine for me

[valid walrus]

After using every command that interacts with waterfall it kicks the player on the server side for unsigned packet or other related errors.
It's been happening since just before the 1.20 update. It also happens on a server with 0 plugins.
Example:
Player uses /glist , after that player types a longer message they get kicked for unsigned packet.

[tidal musk]

Whenever I try connecting to my proxy which is running water fall it says "Can't connect to default or firewall" does anyone know how to fix this error?

[leaden stone]

https://mclo.gs/bEjJvdp

Getting this weird error

[reef fulcrum]

something sent a packet with a string that was apparnetly too long

for more info, read the message

[leaden stone]

so launch with -Dwaterfall.packet-decode-logging=true flag?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[warm solstice]

is there a way to connect different mc versions together

?

[reef fulcrum]

supported? no

you'd need a protocol translation plugin like viaversion, etc

[warm solstice]

so if i install viaversion to waterfall it will work?!

and subservers

or just subservers

im new to this stuff

[reef fulcrum]

ideally you install it on the subservers, not the proxy

[warm solstice]

thanks for the info

[tidal musk]

does anyone know how to fix this?

[reef fulcrum]

see logs

all we can tell you is that the connection failed; if ptero, see pins

if using a hosting provider, speak to them

[fossil frost]

is it possible to use the 1.20 version of waterfall for a 1.19.4 network

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[fossil frost]

ok

thanks

[leaden stone]

https://mclo.gs/wMa5qC7

Anyone know what might cause this?

[reef fulcrum]

DNS issues

you can disable the netty/async dns inside of the waterfall config to use your systems DNS stack

but, should probably wonder why google DNS is failing

[leaden stone]

I am transferring a domain to cloudflare currently but apparently it will take up to 5 days for the stage I'm at to conclude

[reef fulcrum]

nothing to do with that

like, it crapped the bed looking for mojangs services

not for your stuff

[leaden stone]

which config option is that? This one? use_netty_dns_resolver: true

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[leaden stone]

and set to false?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[leaden stone]

Would this potentially cause me other issues?

[reef fulcrum]

either disable the module inside of modules.yml or whatever it was and delete the jar, or revoke perms to run the command

I mean, it falls back to using the systems DNS stack if you disable netty DNS, idk what 100% of the implications are, but, like

you should probably work out why netty DNS is failing

firewall? network issues? 🤷‍♂️

lol

if offline mode, glhf, i don't support such setups

if online mode, use a compent auth plugin

idk how their stuff works

I mean, you could just use luckperms and revork perms to /server when on that context

[leaden stone]

https://mclo.gs/mFTMOVV

My server's acting up today fgs

[mystic oasis]

Is there any config I can change to optimise my waterfall server

[coarse elbow]

Running waterfall as proxy jar

[craggy trout]

Disable entity ID rewriting on waterfall.yml

And don't use bad plugins that usually have a bad-handling on the buffers

Some plugin? This isn't waterfall i think

[devout flume]

i'm running a paper 1.20.1 (build 61) server behind waterfall. it's been running for exactly a week. Today, on 2 separate occasions, players reported they suddenly could not connect to the server - they were getting kicked back to lobby. This is the first time it's been reported.

Logs on the paper server look normal - player connects, some things process on join, and then the player disconnects. No errors.

On waterfall I found only this:

Jul 06 17:30:53 silverstone01 newlands-proxy[3132627]: [17:30:53 WARN]: [/50.65.105.185:0|*TheChrisII] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [survival1201] - bad packet, are mods in use!? No more bytes reading varint

Any ideas?

Oh, and it fixes itself. No reboot necessary.

One player reported that: A) players who were on the server when the issue started could continue to reconnect and B) the server fixed itself once everyone disconnected so the server was at 0 players. This may just be coincidence, though - I haven't confirmed this.

[coarse elbow]

I really need help with this

[reef fulcrum]

Force default server

[cinder trellis]

ps: i tried to make this as simple as possible to understand

hiya, quick question. lets say for example, my waterfall instance had 4 servers in total;

1. Proxy Server
2. Lobby (1)
3. Game Server 2
4. Game Server 3

My proxy server would run on it's own VPS with it's own IP Address.

My 3 game servers would run on the same dedicated machine, with the same IP Address, but different ports in order to differentiate the 3.

Is it possible to use waterfall as a bungee between those 3 game servers as long as the port is different?

I will be using Pterodactyl panel. Thanks.

[reef fulcrum]

Yes

[cinder trellis]

okay, so I wont need 3 different IP's as long as the ports are different?

i can run it all on my one dedicated machine?

[reef fulcrum]

Yea

[cinder trellis]

great thanks

[versed shore]

Hi there!
I have this error message.
I deactivated the DNS of the waterfall file but it continues, any idea?

[craggy trout]

Can i check logs?

[versed shore]

There's my ip, can I send it to you privately?

[craggy trout]

You can use https://mclo.gs/ that actually filters the private information.

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @versed shore: https://pastes.dev/s3L0VdIr2u

[versed shore]

I guess there's nothing special about it?

[reef fulcrum]

theres 0 failures in there

[crystal fossil]

This is cause your servers on offline mode or cracked. Or your on cracked

Using tlauncher

Enable offline mode to see if you can connect then

[versed shore]

Nope

I used an old configuration thinking it would work perfectly. So I tested deleting the config file and it worked. I have no idea why exactly, I haven't compared the two files yet.

[fickle carbon]

Our OPs keep getting logged out because someone logged in as them from another location.

Then a false version of them logs in to whitelist herobrine or herobrine 2 and ban all players online.

Its hard to imagine all 3 of our mods have had their accounts comprimised.

I'll attach a log from one of these attacks.

Is there anything I can do to make our servers more secure?

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @fickle carbon: https://pastes.dev/lgbgXXLDuB

[reef fulcrum]

online mode allows for existing logins to boot existing users

that would genearlly scream that your backends aren't properly firewalled

i.e. they're allowing external connections to the backends IPs

at best, setup a firewall so only your proxy can connect; worse case, use bungeeguard

[fickle carbon]

any advice on setting up the firewall? should I just be googling this?

[reef fulcrum]

depends on your hosting setup

[fickle carbon]

I feel like everything to do with the servers is at least configured properly. Unless I'm wrong of course.

I'm hosting on bloom

[reef fulcrum]

then you probably can't firewall

use bungeeguard

[fickle carbon]

ok thank you, one more quick question about configs, just so I can know I didnt make an error here

and also, thank you very much for taking the time

my config for waterfall enforce_secure_profile: false
server_connect_timeout: 5000
listeners:

• bind_local_address: true
  force_default_server: false
  forced_hosts:
  pvp.md-5.net: pvp
  host: 0.0.0.0:25565
  max_players: 1
  motd: '&1THUNDERBUNGEE'
  ping_passthrough: false
  priorities:
  • survival
  • resource
    proxy_protocol: false
    query_enabled: false
    query_port: 25577
    tab_list: GLOBAL_PING
    tab_size: 60
    remote_ping_cache: -1
    network_compression_threshold: 256
    permissions:
    admin:
  • bungeecord.command.alert
  • bungeecord.command.end
  • bungeecord.command.ip
  • bungeecord.command.reload
  • bungeecord.command.kick
    default:
  • bungeecord.command.server
  • bungeecord.command.list
    log_pings: true
    connection_throttle_limit: 3
    prevent_proxy_connections: false
    timeout: 30000
    player_limit: -1
    ip_forward: true
    groups:
    md_5:
  • admin
    remote_ping_timeout: 5000
    connection_throttle: 4000
    log_commands: false
    stats: 492f51bb-636a-4eda-9e25-f85799ebcb30
    online_mode: true
    forge_support: true
    disabled_commands:

and otherwise i think the only other edited things are that my spigo yml has bungee to true

[craggy trout]

Use a paste service please

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, idk what you'd expect me to look at that for

bungee is just inheriently unsecure; hence why stuff like bungeeguard exists

[reef surge]

fabric support?

[reef fulcrum]

update stuff, apparently

[reef surge]

what do i update all my plugins are updated

[reef fulcrum]

I was thinking waterfall, but now idk

[reef surge]

im joining via fabric

[reef fulcrum]

at least, a few dozen people have reported that issue, apparently updating their stuff fixed it, otherwise, no idea

[reef surge]

my mods are only litematica

[reef fulcrum]

something has corrupted your registry

I mean, so with litematica, the fact that you're using fabric is likely 100% irrelevant as litematica doesn't do anything that would change with a proxy afaik

[reef surge]

FIXED IT TNX

[craggy trout]

Why the forwarding pull request was not accepted?

[reef fulcrum]

I'm the only person on this project more or less

So, my health knocking me out for a good few years slightly marginally impacted the project a little

[craggy trout]

i see, you should check when you can the pull that i mencionated.

[reef fulcrum]

i can't test it or anything

[craggy trout]

I added on my fork, and works pretty.

It's basicaly ported from Velocity forwarding, so work is same

[reef fulcrum]

Yes, but I generally like to test stuff locally before merging it

and pretty sure it needs updating too

[craggy trout]

Yes, but sadly i don't know how to properly edit patches. Only build new ones.

The only change that needs its Property class changed.

Fixed by changing practicaly to this, Property property : properties

[reef fulcrum]

needs v2 forwarding support

and probably wanna cut down the logging as it just seems excessive

idk what to do about the bungeeguard warning, I don't like the notion of singling a plugin out like that as it just sets a bad precident

and I do not have the means to work on any of that

[craggy trout]

So basicaly to accept it you want ->

Remove dumb-logg at starting (or do it once)
Add 1.19/1.20 support

I think bungeeguard warn is good,

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[craggy trout]

I will open a new pull request basicaly removing the logs and adding support

[craggy trout]

Cutting this would be fine?

Until the last if

Because the latest one it's only when the string is empty usually when starts

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, the last one is fine; I'd also maybe see to keep the one on not having a forwrding mode set given how many issues that has caused in the past, otherwise, yea

heck

heck, maybe even just reduce it to logging the forwarding mode in use, be that none/one of those

[craggy trout]

I will start working on it

[craggy trout]

Probably on the isIpForward() i could make a logger that advises Waterfall will use legacy forwarding by default, and they should check the other two

I think that bungeeguard one is dumb, because it already warn the user when it's installed

[sonic vale]

This may be a stupid question, but is the latest version of waterfall compatible with the latest version of paper? And if so, are they always updated in tandem? Or if not, how can I tell which versions of waterfall are compatible with which versions of paper? Thank you, hopefully my questioning isn’t too silly.

[craggy trout]

Yes, Waterfall is totally compatible with any paper version up to 1.8

[sonic vale]

Sweet, I have been wanting to run the absolute newest versions of each on my local server, but I wanted to be sure they will always be compatible before I go to update anything.

[tidal musk]

hey im trying to setup an basic waterfall server but when i try to connect via the waterfall port i get this error : "invalid signature for profile public key" but when im conecting threw the "minecraft server"(no waterfall) i get no error and can play with no problem

[nimble ember]

if you can connect directly to the backend server, you havent set it up correcty

[craggy trout]

Try to enable ip_forwarding and bungeecord support on spigot.yml

[tidal musk]

oh ye i forgot about that, thats been an long time since i configured an mc server

[dry thunder]

Please send large files/logs to a pastebin

[ivory egret]

I get this error whenever i try /lobby

[marble kelp]

update the plugin

if there is no update, contact the plugin author or find a better plugin

(seeing as they are executing commands instead of properly using the api I strongly recommend finding a different plugin lol)

[ocean hound]

Whats up. I would like it to throw players out of the lobby when restarting the mode. I made such a configuration but unfortunately it does not work.

settings:
  fallback_server: lobby

It's my config.yml

[reef fulcrum]

errrrr

config.yml of what?

[craggy trout]

You can use a plugin like redirectplus or smth

[shell flint]

Hey guys! I’m just reporting it here, I appear to be having an issue and I believe I’ve traced it back to waterfall being the culprit. Basically each time the player types there will be a chance for the player to be kicked due to chat verification and I managed to replicate this by typing /glist in the chat and then sending a message afterwards, this will then kick that player from the server. This is the only replication I’ve seen, but the kicks happen even without typing that command

[reef fulcrum]

seemingly a known thing

freedom chat can be used to mitigate it, or use velocity

[lilac crow]

[11:53:48] [Netty Worker IO Thread #14/INFO]: [/120.231:1970] <-> InitialHandler has connected
[11:53:48] [Netty Worker IO Thread #14/INFO]: [Brain|/165:1970] <-> ServerConnector [lobby] has connected
[11:53:48] [Netty Worker IO Thread #14/WARN]: [/12:1970|Brain] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [lobby] - bad packet, are mods in use!? VarInt too big
[11:53:48] [Netty Worker IO Thread #14/INFO]: [Brain] disconnected with: The server you were previously on went down, you have been connected to a fallback server
[11:53:48] [Netty Worker IO Thread #14/INFO]: [/1205:1970|Brain] -> UpstreamBridge has disconnected
[11:53:48] [Netty Worker IO Thread #14/INFO]: [/125:1970|Brain] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [lobby] has disconnected
[11:53:50] [Netty Worker IO Thread #15/INFO]: [/2:26210] <-> InitialHandler has connected

i used the latest version of waterfall connect 1.20 purpur

Players can get in at first, but after a while they can't

This error will appear on waterfall's backend

[reef fulcrum]

all I can tell you is that something apparnetly sent a bad packet

generally caused by plugins mangling stuff

[lilac crow]

some plugins do not support 1.20 as a result?

[reef fulcrum]

[lilac crow]

I did not encounter this when using 1.19.4

It's been going on since we upgraded version 1.20

[reef fulcrum]

all I can tell you is that something is mangling packets

[lilac crow]

all right thankyou

[craggy trout]

Probably some plugin?

[tidal shard]

https://paste.md-5.net/mupizidohu.bash

it just kicked all players

[reef fulcrum]

something somehow is set to a bad value

[tidal shard]

yeah i already figured that out

but WHY

[reef fulcrum]

No idea

in part, that doesn't look like a proper build of waterfall

and I don't have the hardwarte to go look at the source to try to deduce the why

[tidal shard]

will you kill me if i say its flamecord?

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, no

[marble kelp]

no but point you towards their support

[reef fulcrum]

but you won't get support here

[tidal shard]

but its waterfall's error

look in it

[marble kelp]

you are not using waterfall

[tidal shard]

ok ill try to get help on flamecord

[reef fulcrum]

idk what flamecord have done to the software

[craggy trout]

Breaking all

Removing entity rewrite code, forcing netty to close the connection for some wrong cases

[fast nacelle]

Hi, my console is full of these warnings: "could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(7) + length(1) exceeds writerIndex(7): PooledSlicedByteBuf(ridx: 7, widx: 7, cap: 7/7, unwrapped: PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 30, widx: 30, cap: 2048))
" Can i do something about it?

[burnt hill]

[05:39:09] [Server thread/INFO]: _ joined the game
[05:39:09] [Server thread/INFO]: _[/194.66.126.7:39052] logged in with entity id 1254 at ([world]4107.718515273618, 111.0, 9351.503399906378)
[05:39:09] [Craft Scheduler Thread - 4 - PlaceholderAPI/INFO]: [LocalTime] Couldn't get _'s timezone. Will use default timezone.
[05:39:10] [Craft Scheduler Thread - 17 - DiscordSRV/ERROR]: [DiscordSRV] Your AvatarUrl config option does not contain the {username} placeholder even though this server is using offline UUIDs.
[05:39:10] [Craft Scheduler Thread - 17 - DiscordSRV/ERROR]: [DiscordSRV] https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/{username}/{size}.png#{texture} will be used because the default value does not support offline mode servers
[05:39:10] [Craft Scheduler Thread - 17 - DiscordSRV/ERROR]: [DiscordSRV] You should set your AvatarUrl (in config.yml) to https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/{username}/{size}.png#{texture} (or another url that supports usernames) to get rid of this error
[05:39:12] [Server thread/INFO]: _ issued server command: /unban .
[05:39:12] [Server thread/INFO]: _ unbanned . for 'No reason specified.'``` Users are able to join on any username with invalid UUID's and just instantly gain operator permissions through some exploit

[reef fulcrum]

offline mode uuid

99% chance you didn't secure your backend servers

[burnt hill]

yea he said he had to use offline mode for it to work on minehut. i dont own the proxy for it

i told him it might have something to do with offline mode

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, if the backend server has no firewall or protection or anything, and is configured for etting a proxy connect to it, then it will literally let anybody who wants to fake that info to connect

[burnt hill]

it was on minehut, so i didnt even know it allowed offline users to join

[reef fulcrum]

on minehut, or an external server attached to minehut?

[burnt hill]

Minehut IP for advertising > proxy out to external host

[reef fulcrum]

so, yea

probably nothing to do with minehut

they just failed to secure their setup

[burnt hill]

alr ill see if i can get access to the mh pannel so i can fix it, if he cant figure it out

[reef fulcrum]

nothing to do with mh

[sterile plinth]

Hey, did someone know, whats this is?

[reef fulcrum]

a plugin cancelled the event to connect to a server

the player wasn't already connected to a server, and wasn't given a server to connect to, and thus they where disconnected

[tidal musk]

Guys, what do you recommend between Waterfall or Velocity?

[reef fulcrum]

depends

velocity is newer but generally better designed

waterfall is older, not as amazing but has a much older ecosystem behind it

[tidal musk]

Ok

[pliant parrot]

[01:10:16 ERROR]: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.RuntimeException: Could not load configuration!
[01:10:16 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.conf.YamlConfig.load(YamlConfig.java:96)
[01:10:16 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.conf.YamlConfig.load(YamlConfig.java:67)
[01:10:16 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.conf.Configuration.load(Configuration.java:82)
[01:10:16 ERROR]: at io.github.waterfallmc.waterfall.conf.WaterfallConfiguration.load(WaterfallConfiguration.java:67)
[01:10:16 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCord.start(BungeeCord.java:288)
[01:10:16 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCordLauncher.main(BungeeCordLauncher.java:67)
[01:10:16 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:15)
[01:10:16 ERROR]: Caused by: java.io.FileNotFoundException: config.yml (Permission denied)
[01:10:16 ERROR]: at java.base/java.io.FileInputStream.open0(Native Method)
[01:10:16 ERROR]: at java.base/java.io.FileInputStream.open(FileInputStream.java:216)
[01:10:16 ERROR]: at java.base/java.io.FileInputStream.<init>(FileInputStream.java:157)
[01:10:16 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.conf.YamlConfig.load(YamlConfig.java:76)
[01:10:16 ERROR]: ... 6 more

[reef fulcrum]

as said, your file perms are busted

[pliant parrot]

How to fix?

[reef fulcrum]

depends on how you're hosting the server

[pliant parrot]

I have acces to the root user of the server

[reef fulcrum]

you basically need to set the ownership of the config file to the user that the server runs under

[pliant parrot]

How?

[reef fulcrum]

find where the files are and chown them to the correct user

[tiny wind]

hello i need help

Bungee and the lobby server are connected.

Bungee console displays:
[11:57:50 INFO]: [1] disconnected with: Kicked whilst connecting to lobby: Unexpected custom data from client
[11:57:50 INFO]: [/ip|1] -> UpstreamBridge has disconnected
[11:57:50 INFO]: [1|/IP] <-> ServerConnector [lobby] has disconnected

The lobby server displays:
[11:56:01] [User Authenticator #2/INFO]: UUID of player 1 is 2f8054fe-d031-334d-9bd7-5429d1d1205a
[11:56:01] [Netty Server IO #6/ERROR]: Received empty payload on channel fml:handshake

The client log displays:
[12:07:00] [Netty Client IO #1/INFO]: Connected to a vanilla server. Catching up missing behavior.
[12:07:13] [Render thread/INFO]: Stopping!

The client experiences the same results even without any mods installed.

The client and server have the same mods installed, and the server is running the CatServer 1.16.5

[reef fulcrum]

modern forge is generally unsupported

stuff like lightfall, lightcord? I forget, have some stuff to try to work around that, requires a client mod though

[stuck nacelle]

Hello, today weird errors started happening when players joined server. Many random errors regarding DecoderException. Do you have any idea what it can be?

[reef fulcrum]

all we're told is that the datastream is corrupted

could be something corrupting the data, be that a plugin, weird environment issues

[stuck nacelle]

How can I debug that?

there are no errors in logs

and it happens randomly for some players

some can join no problem, some cant join at all, and some get this error every x logins

It started happening since this morning out of nowwhere

[reef fulcrum]

there is no real sane way to debug that

literally just boils down to trying to remove potential factors

like plugins

I mean, for all we know, you have some players connecting through some backbone provider who is having weird issues on their network

[stuck nacelle]

They are saying that other servers are working for them

Only my server is the issue

So what can be potential factors?

Out of your experience

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, i've never had that one before

it's either something software based on your side is mangling stuff

some hardware issue between you and them

or a software issue on their side

if it's happening to multiple people, outside of a janky driver update being pushed out, that generally excludes their side

[stuck nacelle]

Its probably my side

But how can I try to troubleshoot that then?

[reef fulcrum]

as i said, outside of tryna yank potential causes, there is no real way to diagnose it

[stuck nacelle]

So I should try to find issue in plugins list?

[tiny wind]

What mod can solve it?

[reef fulcrum]

read

[tiny wind]

My English is not very good, I can not understand what you said, this is my mod list

[reef fulcrum]

Once again

waterfall does not support modern forge

you would need a proxy like lightfall, however, they require you also have a client mod

[tiny wind]

Yes, lightfall can solve this problem?

[reef fulcrum]

potentially

[tiny wind]

thanks,i will try

[gentle marten]

Hello

I need help

One question, do I need to have ViaVersion on the server where I want to send the user or is it not necessary?

[craggy trout]

ViaVersion, ViaRewind and ViaBackwards are redundant using them on Waterfall

[marble kelp]

you only need viaversion if you want an incompatible client to join

you should ideally run them on all backend servers though, not on the proxy

(at least to get the best experience, that depends on the versions though)

[craggy trout]

Actually viaversion is not working properly on BungeeCord because changing order of some login vanilla packets

I wouldn't use it on the proxy, also leads to underperform because entity rewrite is beeing used.

[gentle marten]

so i can't do nothing?

[craggy trout]

What?

[gentle marten]

I have 3 servers

• Lobby: 1.19.4
• Game: 1.17.1
• Game: 1.17.1

[craggy trout]

Waterfall does not need any plugin to support all versions from 1.8 to the latest one, it is a "multi protocol" proxy.

[gentle marten]

Always conects to the second server

[craggy trout]

You need to put viaversion, viarewind and viabackwards to your backends, not to the proxy

[gentle marten]

And when i remove the 2 game servers to test i get the error incorrect address

[gentle marten]

oh okay

@craggy troutother thing (sorry for ping)

I can't make a server supports all versions, right?

like 1.8 to 1.20.1

[craggy trout]

You can use ViaVersion for that on your backends

[gentle marten]

i didn't understand

don't works...

<-> ServerConnector [boxpvp] has connected

i want to conect to lobby

i set the priority

idk what happends

[craggy trout]

Check your backend logs, this isn't a waterfall or viaversion proxy

Seems your configuration

[gentle marten]

backend logs?

what is bakend

xd

[steel surge]

the backend server's logs

[gentle marten]

waterfall?

i don't understand

[reef fulcrum]

waterfall is the proxy

it connects to servers, i.e. the "backend"

[gentle marten]

oh

ty

im stupid

[tulip surge]

latest.log by @gentle marten: https://pastes.dev/UN4zU93Hcl

[gentle marten]

here is

Don't shows any error.

[reef fulcrum]

i doubted it ever would

the client got a bad packet

as for why/how, no idea

[gentle marten]

me too

no idea

Anyway i get teleported to the second server

Never teleports to the first (main)

I try removing all servers

And leaving the server that doesn't work

There is

Error occurred processing connection for oswx ConnectTimeoutException : connection timed out: ip/

[spare apex]

the proxy cant connect to the backend for some reason, perhaps it is what it says or something else

[reef fulcrum]

generally network misconfig

[gentle marten]

Everything is set up correctly

Maybe (Not sure) the query port is the same

[reef fulcrum]

I mean

the connection timed out

something is not setup properly

[gentle marten]

maybe is the query port?

[reef fulcrum]

irrelevant

[gentle marten]

rcon.port=25575
query.port=25565

[gentle marten]

so?

i don't know then

[reef fulcrum]

once again, literally irrelevant

if using a hosting provider, speak to them for support

[gentle marten]

Is not that

If its a host problem why the other server works?

Literally impossible

[reef fulcrum]

Because it's networking related stuff

do the backend and the server you're tryna connect to share the same IP address?

proxy and the server*

[gentle marten]

no

[reef fulcrum]

No idea then

[gentle marten]

Not same port/ip

[reef fulcrum]

but, if you're using a host, they should be able to help you

[gentle marten]

but i want to know why

the other wroks

works*

and this no

[reef fulcrum]

i don't know your setup

i don't know your hosts setup

[gentle marten]

so i can't do nothing?

[reef fulcrum]

if you're not going to take the advice given, then yea

connection timed out is a network configuration type issue

Without knowing your network setup, we can't help you

[warm raven]

What is waterfall

[craggy trout]

It's an bungeecord fork that gives a reasonable performance and leads to better forge support

[gentle marten]

what is nano limbo?

[winged thistle]

Since updating to build 536, many players experience ReadTimeOut errors. Any clue?

disconnected with: ReadTimeoutException : null

[winged pilot]

highly unlikely to be waterfall

check with the host and make sure there aren't any plugins doing dumb stuff on the main thread

[waxen fern]

can you guys help me my waterfall its error

This One

[tulip surge]

AWaterfallMC.txt by @waxen fern: https://pastes.dev/9AzRP1Ovvy

[stark sequoia]

Read what the exception is saying

[waxen fern]

wdym?

[stark sequoia]

Invalid configuration encountered - this is a configuration error and NOT a bug!

[waxen fern]

what a bug. nothing wrong

[waxen fern]

@stark sequoia

[stark sequoia]

Obviously something is wrong if the server doesn't load

Use tools like https://www.yamllint.com/ to help yourself find where the problem is

[exotic crypt]

Could not connect to a default or fallback server. Incorrectly configured address/port/firewall?

in waterfall's config.yml: priorities are set
ip forward to true

servers ip:port
motd
restricted are set

bungeecord: true in the spigot.yml of the backend

and offline mode is set on the backends

ping me

ty

[exotic crypt]

😦

[reef fulcrum]

generaly, see the log

it means a network config issue

if ptero, see pins

if using a host, speak to them

if using a dedi, use some localhost adapter, etc

[exotic crypt]

shared host using pterodactyl

[reef fulcrum]

so, speak to your host

[exotic crypt]

yeah he doesnt know

ill use the pterodactyl stuff

[reef fulcrum]

i mean, it's generally a basic networking issue

[exotic crypt]

172.18.0.1 so this in the config.yml?

[exotic crypt]

imma tell him after i try it

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, that won't work unless the panel is configured for it

[exotic crypt]

oh k

time to test

anyways ty

[reef fulcrum]

literal easy option is to host the proxy on a seperate machine to the actual servers

[exotic crypt]

k

anyways yeah, its not setup for it

[leaden stone]

https://mclo.gs/5uEdGUL

Very weird thing happening

Waterfall server just breaking for some reason

[reef fulcrum]

proxies rely on understanding the protocol

if mods break the protocol, the proxy will break

[leaden stone]

So you're saying that a plugin might have broken the protocol?

[reef fulcrum]

I'm saying a mod probably did

[leaden stone]

Not using forge btw it's just saying that

I'm using Waterfall proxy with Pufferfish server

[reef fulcrum]

I misread the logs thingy

but, yea, something apparently managled a packet

[leaden stone]

I want to bang my head against a wall

[reef fulcrum]

and, that would suggest a bad client

[leaden stone]

Bad client? So like a client could have caused this and not the server itself?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

StatusRequest is sent to the server not the client

and that's so early in the connection process, wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't some crappy web scanning thing

[leaden stone]

So you're saying that anyone that sends a bad packet can just crash my server like that?

[reef fulcrum]

I see no signs that the proxy crashed

if you mean the errors, then yea, the proxy prints errors when stuff goes sideways

[leaden stone]

There is a 30 minute period where the proxy just did nothing at all

[reef fulcrum]

which doesn't indicate any issues

[leaden stone]

How is that not indicative of an issue

It's not like no one wasn't trynna join

[reef fulcrum]

and I'm supposed to know that how?

[leaden stone]

sorry if i come off as combative rn

[reef fulcrum]

idk how often people connect to your server

I'm not going to piss in the wind over a period of time in which nothing was logged

[leaden stone]

I'm just saying

The fact that there was nothing logged at all during a 30 minute period where there was people trying to connect to the server

Just trynna figure out what went wrong

[formal hull]

how to configure waterfall to work with forge is config waterfall

[tulip surge]

config.yml by @formal hull: https://pastes.dev/TWUtHb4Qzm

[formal hull]

I have a forge server at localhost:25585

1 is a proxy server and when I connect through it, I get information that I don't have all the mods to enter the server, but when I connect to 2, I enter the server without any problems

[tidal musk]

Hello, We want to bring couple of very big streamers on our server but the problem is we havev no known method to benchmark our server and see how many players it can hold. any recommendation?

[marble kelp]

there's tools which can join tons of offline-mode players

but that can't really fully simulate player behaviour

[tidal musk]

whats the name of this tool?

[tough stream]

Hello, im a little bit new with waterfall and i need help, i tried upgrading WaterFall from 1.8 to 1.20 but it doesnt let me connect to the server

[leaden stone]

Weirdest error message I have ever seen

https://mclo.gs/tcX4cjo

Asked what it is in Geyser and they said "ask waterfall"

[marble kelp]

seeing as there's a . in the playername this seems like a geyser error

also I strongly suggest disabling initial handler logging, that log is so spammed with unnecessary pings lol

[mighty pulsar]

is there any way to show players from a modded server on a seperate bungee made server?
But without being connected to the bungee, otherwise I can't connect to the modded server
Or a way to send you directly to the respective server if you have the mods installed

[reef fulcrum]

no

[mighty pulsar]

But is it possible to go with the mods through the vanilla lobby and be able to enter a mod server?

[reef fulcrum]

no

assuming forge, you need to trigger a forge handshake to get all that info

and, well, vanilla doesn't do that

velocity has the ambassador plugin which I think deals with stuff a bit better, no idea what the caveats, etc, are

[foggy star]

hi i put waterfall on my server and i setup all server but it tell me: Kicked whilst connecting to hub: Outdated client! Please use 1.19.4 . But im useing 1.19.4 and all server is on 1.19.4. and im useing via version on all server. Can someone tell me how to fix it pls?

[nimble ember]

the backend server is kicking you, so youd need to send its log

[foggy star]

ok

the log of the server waterfall and hub?

[foggy star]

hey?

[foggy star]

y?

[verbal sluice]

im having trouble running waterfall as my proxy server

i get these messages from plugins that are being loaded

https://i.imgur.com/B7ibvsy.png

[reef fulcrum]

Your aegis proxy

eeeeeer?

[verbal sluice]

trust me im not dumb i just

i didn't

man im dumb

[verbal sluice]

not because you have a cracked version you think everyone does

im not the one who bought it

my partner did, and he can't use his computer

[reef fulcrum]

I mean my notion was more that that is not waterfall

[prisma hedge]

waterfall / velocity doesn't work: the proxy itself works, i can ping it via minecraft, but the proxy can't connect to any of the servers. Any ideas on how to fix this issue? Also this is the error i get while i try to join the server Error occurred processing connection for jack0217 AnnotatedConnectException : finishConnect(..) failed: Connection refused: /172.17.0.1:25566"

[craggy trout]

Did you configure correctly your firewall and backends?

[last nexus]

can someone help mmeee

[wary snow]

Your attempting to connect to a server directly u got any logs or console images

[reef fulcrum]

they're connecting through the proxy, can tell because of the message

but, they have something misconfigured, and given that doesn't look like any of our messages, probably a plugin

[supple crypt]

btw its recommend to run via at backend servers and not bungee cord

[verbal sluice]

yeah that's what i did

ty for the recommendation

[supple crypt]

np

[leaden stone]

https://mclo.gs/pSfQ2Il

Had this weird semi-crash with bungee. Just kicked a whole lot of people

[reef fulcrum]

only thing of note i see in your log is network issues

[leaden stone]

Meaning I should probs speak with the owner of the machine?

[reef fulcrum]

idk

network stuff happens

I can't really say mch more than that on this laptop

[leaden stone]

right

and yeah service provider said it was a network blip

thanks

[tawdry bronze]

Hello, can I connect waterfall to Fabric server

[nimble ember]

you would need a fabric mod that supports bungeecords forwarding

there is one for velocity's modern forwarding, but i dont know if there is one for legacy forwarding

also legacy forwarding is bad, so ideally it would support bungeeguard too

[bronze tusk]

I have a waterfall server that I have followed different tutorials to see if I had messed up configurating it but, every time I try to join, I get this error in console and I am unable to connect to the server. The server that it's trying to send me to see is running as well.

[tough vale]

Connection timed out, make sure the backend server is up, no firewalls blocking the connection, the backend's IP is set correctly, etc

[reef fulcrum]

generally a network setup issue; firewall, tryna loop connections back, etc

[bronze tusk]

My hosting provider assured me that there was no firewall blocking the connection.

[bronze tusk]

It is localhost and ^

[reef fulcrum]

hosting provider

So

[bronze tusk]

Dedicated Server Provider*

[reef fulcrum]

generally that's because the proxy and the server are on the same ip address/node

[tough vale]

well that looks like pterodactyl so localhost will never work because of docker

[bronze tusk]

It is a server that I rent out each month, no other servers are on here.

[bronze tusk]

Well bylocalhost I mean the same IP

[reef fulcrum]

ptero? see pins

100% a network config thing as I said

[bronze tusk]

Gotchu, appreciate it

[tulip surge]

23.txt by @lilac crow: https://pastes.dev/AlHkFAXJ29

[lilac crow]

I used the latest version of waterfall, the 1.20.1 purpur core of the group, and after 10 minutes of opening there was nothing abnormal

This problem has existed for a long time, and there has been no solution

[reef fulcrum]

You server apparently tried to send a tablist packet with too much data inside of it

[lilac crow]

So what am I supposed to do about him

[marble kelp]

test without any plugin messing with the tablist

[olive cedar]

hi can someone help me ? After a restart, sometime when we are reconnecting, we got an error:

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Team a02 already exists in this scoreboard
        at com.google.common.base.Preconditions.checkArgument(Preconditions.java:220) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:3df3a27:526]
        at net.md_5.bungee.api.score.Scoreboard.addTeam(Scoreboard.java:73) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:3df3a27:526]
        at net.md_5.bungee.connection.DownstreamBridge.handle(DownstreamBridge.java:265) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:3df3a27:526]
        at net.md_5.bungee.protocol.packet.Team.handle(Team.java:124) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:3df3a27:526]
        at net.md_5.bungee.netty.HandlerBoss.channelRead(HandlerBoss.java:114) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:3df3a27:526]
        at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:444) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:3df3a27:526]
        at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:420) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:3df3a27:526]
        at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.fireChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:412) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:3df3a27:526]
        at io.netty.handler.timeout.IdleStateHandler.channelRead(IdleStateHandler.java:286) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:3df3a27:526]
        at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeChannelRead(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:442) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:3df3a27:526]

And of course this error kick us from the server

[craggy trout]

Does the proxy connect to the upstream bridge?

[craggy trout]

Yeah java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Team a02 already exists in this scoreboard some plugin is using same scoreboard team

Known bungeecord problem

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, broken how?

[tidal musk]

How to hide this message on server menu?

[frail brook]

I'm not sure if there's a way without a plugin, using the ProxyPingEvent event

[surreal lake]

Hello,

My players get kicked from my server when connecting to a different one, I think I am using Waterfall 1.19-R0.1

[tulip surge]

Error.txt by @surreal lake: https://pastes.dev/kqpa6srPHB

[viscid silo]

Why did you report that message? Lol

[olive cedar]

so it's cause by my scoreboard plugin i guess ?

[surreal lake]

It was an accident - I right clicked it and wondered what it did

[exotic spear]

uh

[surreal fable]

,, stop it lol

[exotic spear]

i wonder what it does lol

[young lance]

Hey brain trust!
We're having issues setting up Waterfall & have been getting this error:
Any help would be appreciated, we're running out of ideas 😅

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @young lance: https://pastes.dev/DsWmXdo1oI

[craggy trout]

C:\Users\rabsw\OneDrive\Desktop\minecraft VGA multi server\waterfall>4GB Server:

you're executing '4GB' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

[lilac rapids]

Hi, just wanted to ask if it was possible to use waterfall to link a vanilla server and a forge modpack server. I can understand that having a lobby to connect to these servers would not be ideal as if the lobby was created with vanilla, it may break the modpack clients, and vice versa.
If there is a way of doing this then that would be great but i can understand if this wouldn't be easily possible.

[reef fulcrum]

Basically, no , not with waterfall

Best option would be to look at ambassador and velocity

But, mod stuff is always funky

[lilac rapids]

I can agree with that, thank you

[potent seal]

whenever i try join it keeps coming up with this please help

[olive cedar]

Somoene know how can i identify the plugin that cause this issue ?

[young lance]

Will give that a go, thank you!

[reef fulcrum]

on the panel

if self hosting ptero, see pins

if using a host, speak to your host

I mean, areyou selfhosting?

cos,like, if you are

the backend IP addresses should be safe to share

So, like, if the backends have public IP addresses, how to say, you did it wrong

so, yea, if that's a backend IP, that's wrong

How are you hosting the server?

Okay, so, read the link in the pins

the backend servers should be using a private IP address

Because networking is fun

Nobody sane sets up their network to allow loopback routing

Why would you connect over the public interface to connect to something on the same machine?

No

it's the network of your VPSes network provider

which generally, once again, won't let you use the public IP for looping back

depends on the network setup

well, no idea then

can't really say without knowing the underlying error

Like

if it failed to connect to a server

there is generally an error

without knowing that error and your setup, I can't really say

Yea, that's the pretty print message

the actual error would be in the console

I have no idea then

Idk, i have nothing to go off here

My eyes hurt, I don' feel inclined to try to coax every single thread of info I can out of you in hopes that something finally shows up

[reef fulcrum]

Please stop pinging me

I cant help you

[leaden stone]

What features does Waterfall add on top of BungeeCord?

[hot quiver]

Should I switch to Waterfall?

I have a small 3 server network

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, mostly security and performance stuff

Ofc, outside of the ecosystem still being new, ideally you'd more look towards velocity Vs bungee

[ancient orchid]

My server crashes every few hours

[20:31:03] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: The server has not responded for 10 seconds! Creating thread dump
[20:31:03] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: ------------------------------
[20:31:03] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: Server thread dump (Look for plugins here before reporting to Paper!):
[20:31:03] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: Ticking entity: minecraft:player, entity class: net.minecraft.server.level.EntityPlayer
[20:31:03] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: Entity status: removed: false, valid: true, alive: true, is passenger: false
[20:31:03] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: Entity UUID: 0ae23662-0367-352e-91da-05227f7688cd
[20:31:03] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: Position: world: 'world' at location (-54.158322310522294, 71.0, 41.13749998807907)
[20:31:03] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: Velocity: (0.0, -0.0784000015258789, 0.0) (in blocks per tick)
[20:31:03] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: Entity AABB: AABB[-54.45832232244322, 71.0, 40.83749997615814] -> [-53.858322298601365, 72.79999995231628, 41.4375]
[20:31:03] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: Total packets processed on the main thread for all players: 5328887```
Can anyone help?

[fringe spindle]

is it possible to connect two servers that are on two different devices through waterfall?

@frank coral

pls help

[frank coral]

Don't randomly ping staff

[fringe spindle]

sorry your pfp looks like you know stuff

[craggy trout]

Means a connection passed InitialHandler

Basically Login process

[reef fulcrum]

Work out why it's timing out

Make sure you're using a vanilla client, test without plugins, etc

All that tells us is that the connection was closed in an unexpected manner

All I could guess is that your network is borked or something

[fringe spindle]

is it possible to host via waterfall and connect two different servers that are on two different devices

[craggy trout]

Yes, you must put the IP and port of the server that you want to logg-in

[fringe spindle]

any tutorial u can hook me up with? (I am a cave man)

[nimble ember]

the setup doesnt change if they are on different devices

[royal plover]

Hi there, i'm trying to get a full playe count on the MOTD of the server when the client pings the server. My brain is fried from coding so my thinking process is shot to try and search the key words for it (looking in the discord for answer)

I got it to show the list of players in the lobby, but not in another world. So somewhere it doesn't show the entire list.

[olive cedar]

Hello i have a waterfall server link to 2 paper server.
We have a hub, and the main server, we can't connect to the main server dirrectly, players must connect to the hub before to switch to the server. SO my question is do u know if i need authme on both server or juste on my HUB paper server.

[nimble ember]

offline mode isnt supported

if your proxy is in online mode, you dont need auth me on your backends

[pine timber]

can i add servers on proxy runtime?

[nimble ember]

with a plugin, sure

[pine timber]

something like?

[nimble ember]

i know you can reload the server list config on velocity without plugins, but idk if you can do that on waterfall/bungee

[shut skiff]

Hey I currently have a problem with my waterfall instance.

On updating there comes now an unknown error for me along the lines of:

"Invalid signature for profile public key. Try restarting your game"

On googling a bit there were some things like "set enforce-secure-profile to false", check if system time is correct.

BUUUT none of these help. You guys have any idea?

Edit: Yes i already restarted my game, and I switched from Optifine to Vanilla

[sturdy pivot]

i have the same problem

[dense bison]

Hey I updated the server to 1.20 and now I always get an error when waterfall is executing the proxyplayer.chat() function: java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException: Cannot spoof chat on this client version!

So far only one has mentioned this issue a year ago but so far I can't see a fix or workaround for that.
https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/issues/3327

Do you guys have more info on that topic?

[reef fulcrum]

I ean, you quite simply cannot do that anymore

[dense bison]

but why is the p.chat() method not deprecated then telling devs to stop using it anymore?

[reef fulcrum]

idk, ask spigot

[dense bison]

bruh ok thx

[meager wolf]

curious.... what exactly is the InitialHandler has Pinged? is that someone actually starting up their minecraft client and looking at the different servers?

[spare apex]

that is your server being pinged in the multiplayer server list

and of course some bots and voting sites and such

[meager wolf]

odd, I haven't advertised my server enough that I would expect voting sites to even know about it...

bots.... bots I can understand...

[last nexus]

who needs help seting up Waterfall ?

[random shore]

Hello,

I trust this message finds you in good health. I am reaching out to seek your expertise in resolving an issue pertaining to Minecraft server connectivity. Currently, I am employing the Fabric server core and attempting to establish a connection to an authentic Minecraft server using the Waterfall proxy.

Here is a succinct description of the problem I am currently facing:

I am making use of the Fabric server core with online mode enabled for player authentication.
Upon trying to connect to a legitimate server through the Waterfall proxy, I am confronted with the "Exception Connecting: QuietException: Server is online mode!" error message.
I have meticulously reviewed the proxy configuration, ensuring that the Waterfall version is up to date; however, regrettably, the issue persists.
It is noteworthy that I have conducted tests involving direct connections to servers, excluding the use of the proxy, and I am pleased to report that everything operates seamlessly without any errors.
I am led to suspect that the issue may stem from a specific interaction between the Fabric server core and the Waterfall proxy. I am eager to ascertain if there exist any known solutions to this predicament, or if there are specific configurations or steps that could potentially alleviate the problem.

Should you require further information, kindly be assured that I am more than willing to provide supplementary details. I extend my gratitude for dedicating your time to review my inquiry, and I am earnestly looking forward to receiving your valuable insights and recommendations.

[reef fulcrum]

you can't MITM auth

backend servers need to be in offline mode

[random shore]

But disabling the online mode can lead to player data issues.

[reef fulcrum]

that's what "ip forwarding" is for

it's pretty much unavoidable

you'd need a mod for fabric which adds forwarding support

idk if any exist which support waterfall, however; most of them use modern forwarding

[random shore]

However, I remember that servers with online mode enabled use IP forwarding. How do they utilize this feature?

[reef fulcrum]

as I said, they use a mod

and velocity

[random shore]

so use velocity can resolve？

[reef fulcrum]

velocity + a fabric mod, yes

[random shore]

ok

thank you very much for your assistance

[languid gorge]

hello how can I stop waterfall from console?

I am using stop but it didnt stop this

[reef fulcrum]

end

[languid gorge]

okey and can I use normal plugin in waterfall ?

I am using this for setting motd @EventHandler public void serverlis(ServerListPingEvent event) { event.motd(MiniMessage.miniMessage().deserialize(" <yellow>★ <gradient:dark_aqua:aqua:blue>Remiel Network <yellow>★ <dark_gray>[<gradient:gray:white>1.18.2 Optifine<dark_gray>] \n <gradient:gold:yellow><bold>⚔ MMORPG Aktif! <white><bold:false>- <gradient:dark_green:green><bold>⛏ Skyblock Yakında!")); }

[reef fulcrum]

I mean

waterfall is a proxy

it takes proxy plugins

it won't run bukkit plugins

[languid gorge]

I see how can I convert my bukkit plugin to proxy plugin? or can I set gradient colors on waterfall config?

[reef fulcrum]

you'd write a proxy plugin

and waterfall doesn't bundle minimessage or adventure, you'd need to deal with that mess yourself

[acoustic ruin]

Hello there. Is there a way to link forge servers with waterfall?

I see on google/ai it shows theres a plugin called Waterfall-ForgeBridge plugin. Is this a real thing?

[reef fulcrum]

Unsupported

Use velocity + ambassador

Ofc, still some caveats, but, more care there for it

[acoustic ruin]

wdym by that?

[reef fulcrum]

By what?

[acoustic ruin]

ur msg. Sorry new to this stuff

Would velocity be the same as waterfall setup wise? and does that allow for forge?

[reef fulcrum]

Forge and proxies is generally unsupported

Velocity has a plug-in available which tries to hack some level of support for it

It may or may not work depending on the mods you have

[acoustic ruin]

so there really isnt a way to do a proxy like waterfall/bungee with forge servers?

[reef fulcrum]

As said, it’s unsupported

[acoustic ruin]

dang thats unfortunate

[reef fulcrum]

Depending on the mods you have it may or may not work

[acoustic ruin]

one of the packs is a big pack but Ill try it out

another question, if I wanted to have luckperms on all my servers (vanilla) for ranks, do I need to update the files for lp everytime I update on each server or can I do it all at once to the proxy of servers

[reef fulcrum]

If you set it up for a network you only need to do stuff on one server

[acoustic ruin]

and how would I do that?

[reef fulcrum]

See their wiki

[acoustic ruin]

got it

[marble kelp]

Does original bungeecord or waterfall still support Minecraft 1.8.x?

and what about velocity?

[tidal musk]

*** Please check for a new build from https://papermc.io/downloads ***
*** Should this build be outdated, you will get NO support for it. ***``` Using latest 536 on pterodactyl

[nimble ember]

velocity suports 1.7(.10?)+

[marble kelp]

Awesome

I find it weird how devs treat like 1.8 is all legacy and shouldn't be used, despite it still remaining the go to version for PvP

I'm never going to upgrade to any newer version

[nimble ember]

because it is legacy

https://howoldisminecraft188.today/

missed the 8 year anniversery by 10 days

[marble kelp]

But I just don't know how to get PvP to feel right on new versions?

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, use whatever version you want, generally

It's just the general annoyance that people expect that we should support and care about something so old

[reef fulcrum]

Basically, I don't have a computer (or eyes) able to maintain waterfall ATM

[dapper wedge]

waterfall commands?

[marble kelp]

Why is the #paper channel so useless?

I don't have voice permissions

And I don't want to use discrap

[reef fulcrum]

Because there was some spam bots a while back, which given very few use the IRC is not really a thing of even reasonable traffic these days...

[marble kelp]

That's unfortunate

But I get it. People who want to go through the hoops to migrate to a Microsoft account in order to still play the slowly-dying game of Minecraft are also happy to use Discord

At least LimboAuth relieves the pain a little

Most people who won't use Discord are also not very fond of playing Minecraft, especially now that Micro$oft has completely ruined it

Unfortunately I don't find Minetest that fun, and I still have a Minecraft server network on my hard drive collecting dust

and memories

[errant dew]

this is sounding like someone who says we don't want computers because millions will lose their job

[marble kelp]

idk what you mean he_ad_hunt_er

[tidal musk]

Is there a way to prevent/restrict user from re-joining server using /server <server>? For example one player joins Fallback server and gets insta teleported to Lobby.. and then uses command /server Fallback to get teleported back to Fallback

[jaunty condor]

Im hella confused, i moved my proxy and servers from one machine to another and now i get this message 'Could not connect to a default or fallback server. Incorrectly configured address/port/firewall?' Its exacly the same info in config, just changed the IP to new computers IP. Same in the router. And if i try to open a single server on 25565, i can connect without any problems. So the problem is in the Proxy, but i cant figure out what the problem is since it worked perfectly fine on the other computer

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/e3e2a8241072403eaed34bcd90e2bdb9

thats the waterfall config

[hoary bobcat]

I mean it’s a self explained issue, you’ve configured your stuff incorrectly.

[restive escarp]

Yeah i am getting the same issue

[restive escarp]

Nope , I checked twice and its all correct

Does anyone know how to solve this

Both proxy and and survival server have same ip , so should i use 127.0.0.1?

Also when i download proxy files and run on different host its working properly

But when i use the same hosting from which I hosted my survival server , it gives me error about incorrect configured port firewall

[nimble ember]

are they on the same physical machine without using docker?

[tough vale]

(if you're using the pterodactyl panel, that uses docker under the hood)

[restive escarp]

Yes probably

[restive escarp]

Both are created from same vps

[hoary bobcat]

Yea it is.
Now if you’re using pterodactyl you should use 172.18.0.1 when registering the server to your proxy, and 127.0.0.1 as the allocation for the backend server.

(On the same machine)

[restive escarp]

So i need to use 172.18.0.1 in the bungeecord config

?

Oh okay let me try

How can i allocate 127.0.0.1 to the backend servers?

From here?

[hoary bobcat]

ye

[restive escarp]

Okay let me try thanks

[restive escarp]

Same err

Can i dm you?

I used 172.18.0.1:port in the config but same err

[jaunty condor]

On pterodactyl on the old machine it works fine, on the new machine with ptero it dose not work at all

[hoary bobcat]

Sure but I’m outside at the moment so I might be slow on the answers

[jaunty condor]

The only diffrence between the panels is that, the old panel is not behind any domain, its local, new one is behind a domain with ssl

Normal servers work fine, but not proxy

[restive escarp]

Hm

Mannnn

[leaden stone]

https://mclo.gs/GPnZcM0

net.md_5.bungee.protocol.FastDecoderException: Error decoding packet class PlayerListItemUpdate with contents:
         +-------------------------------------------------+
         |  0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  a  b  c  d  e  f |
+--------+-------------------------------------------------+----------------+
|00000000| 3a 3f 50 ed a4 e3 79 9b 3f 4f 0b a1 81 d7 d0 4b |:?P...y.?O.....K|
|00000010| 0e f5 8b 0e 53 71 75 61 74 74 69 6e 67 5f 53 6c |....Squatting_Sl|
|00000020| 61 76 01 08 74 65 78 74 75 72 65 73 e0 04 65 77 |av..textures..ew|
|00000030| 6f 67 49 43 4a 30 61 57 31 6c 63 33 52 68 62 58 |ogICJ0aW1lc3RhbX|
|00000040| 41 69 49 44 6f 67 4d 54 59 35 4d 54 59 31 4d 54 |AiIDogMTY5MTY1MT|
|00000050| 63 33 4e 54 4d 79 4e 69 77 4b 49 43 41 69 63 48 |c3NTMyNiwKICAicH|
|00000060| 4a 76 5a 6d 6c 73 5a 55 6c 6b 49 69 41 36 49 43 |JvZmlsZUlkIiA6IC|
|00000070| 4a 6c 5a 47 45 30 5a 54 4d 33 4f 54 6c 69 4d 32 |JlZGE0ZTM3OTliM2|
|00000080| 59 30 5a 6a 42 69 59 54 45 34 4d 57 51 33 5a 44 |Y0ZjBiYTE4MWQ3ZD|
|00000090| 41 30 59 6a 42 6c 5a 6a 55 34 59 69 49 73 43 69 |A0YjBlZjU4YiIsCi|
|000000a0| 41 67 49 6e 42 79 62 32 5a 70 62 47 56 4f 59 57 |AgInByb2ZpbGVOYW|
|000000b0| 31 6c 49 69 41 36 49 43 4a 54 63 58 56 68 64 48 |1lIiA6ICJTcXVhdH|
|000000c0| 52 70 62 6d 64 66 55 32 78 68 64 69 49 73 43 69 |RpbmdfU2xhdiIsCi|
|000000d0| 41 67 49 6e 4e 70 5a 32 35 68 64 48 56 79 5a 56 |AgInNpZ25hdHVyZV|
|000000e0| 4a 6c 63 58 56 70 63 6d 56 6b 49 69 41 36 49 48 |JlcXVpcmVkIiA6IH|
|000000f0| 52 79 64 57 55 73 43 69 41 67 49 6e 52 6c 65 48 |RydWUsCiAgInRleH|
|00000100| 52 31 63 6d 56 7a 49 69 41 36 49 48 73 4b 49 43 |R1cmVzIiA6IHsKIC|
|00000110| 41 67 49 43 4a 54 53 30 6c 4f 49 69 41 36 49 48 |AgICJTS0lOIiA6IH|
|00000120| 73 4b 49 43 41 67 49 43 41 67 49 6e 56 79 62 43 |sKICAgICAgInVybC|
|00000130| 49 67 4f 69 41 69 61 48 52 30 63 44 6f 76 4c 33 |IgOiAiaHR0cDovL3|```Does anyone have any advice for how I could track down the source of this error? Basically there's something on my survival server that is sending bad packets to the Waterfall server. Either that or the Waterfall server is not able to decode a packet from the survival server. This error happens only like every 3 days or so and debilitates my server while it happens. I really dont know how to pinpoint why this is happening.

This is the most confusing error I've faced so far. Like I have no idea how to approach this at all. Especially because I have to wait multiple days between each time it occurs meaning it's really hard to test what affects it.

[tepid shoal]

Hi, the méthode server.getinfo.sendata() send a plugin message to all players in the server ?

[reef fulcrum]

No, it sends it to the server by hijacking a players connection

[neon summit]

Hey there, I'm getting this warning:

*** Please check for a new build from https://papermc.io/downloads ***
*** Should this build be outdated, you will get NO support for it. ***```

I double checked I grabbed the latest release from the Paper website. It's not having an effect on anything that I've noticed, but I assume if I'm seeing this something is awry somewhere and better addressed than left alone.

[tough vale]

iirc that nag just checks if the build date for the jar is older than X days, I don't think it actually fires off a check to see if there's a new build

[neon summit]

Gotcha. Thanks for the insight.

[tepid shoal]

Ah so he use pluginmessage and chose a random player ?

[tepid shoal]

what is the difference with a normal player.sendata?

[reef fulcrum]

Because the method on the player sends it to the client, unless you get the actual server connection

[tepid shoal]

bungee side: PluginMessageEvent; event.getSender returns the sending server or the player? and event.getReceiver() ? the receiving server or the player?

[tidal musk]

Can i set network compression threshhold to -1 on waterfall config?

My server has gigabit internet and ping is less than 2ms will this setting reduce cpu load?

[reef fulcrum]

Well, yes

[tidal musk]

currently its set to 256 and cpu load is about 50-70% with about 60 players which is quite high for i9-9900k cpu

will there be any impact on players ping if its set to -1?

[reef fulcrum]

It's a trade off between bandwidth and cpu time

It can have an impact

[tidal musk]

we have unlimited bandwidth

I mean unlimited data rate limit.

speed is gigabit

[reef fulcrum]

Yes, and that's on your side

I can't comment about your players side

For all I know somebody is around the world on the shittiest DSL connection known to man

[tidal musk]

you're right

so whats the best config for this ? 512? or can be little higher?

1024?

[reef fulcrum]

There is no best value

I've heard people have amazing success with it just disabled

I know people who have connections so bad that is just a dream

Mojang still using gzip leaves a lot to be desired

[tidal musk]

you're right. its just a trial and error. I'll test and find the sweetspot

thank you very much for your kind and quick response

[tidal musk]

Seem to be continually getting this error, all the need servers are up and running but this just happens once i connect.

[faint osprey]

has anyone got a guide on how to setup waterfall for the server that your proxy is being directed too?

or can anyone help me out?

[broken coyote]

why i cant join my server

say joining the world and bungee disconnected

and Hub server says If you wish to use IP forwarding, please enable it in your BungeeCord config as well!

but i am doing that alreadt

[craggy trout]

Did you enable forwarding on your waterfall instance and bungeecord support on your backend?

[noble adder]

Is there anything that can be done to improve the connection of players that live far away? My server is hosted in germany and I have players from asia/australia with 350ms.

They keep telling me to add tcpshield to "improve the routing" but I doubt that's gonna do shit.

[nimble ember]

that can only make things worse

[noble adder]

yeah thats what I thought

I mean I'm still open to giving it a try if there's no other alternatives.

but there gotta be smth right?

[nimble ember]

you cannot add anything between your server and the player to improve ping

[noble adder]

then what can I do?

[nimble ember]

hypothetically, if you did use tcpshield, the ping between your server and tcpshield could be 200ms, and the ping between tcpshield and your players is also 200ms. that would mean a player connecting to your server through tcpshield would have a latency of 400ms, which is worse than connecting directly and getting 350ms

[noble adder]

but what about routing? Players keep saying that my server has "bad routing" and that they get better ping on other eu servers

[nimble ember]

you cant control that

at least not easily afaik

[noble adder]

you are saying exactly what I've been thinking from the beginning but so many people who live on foreign islands that get bad ping everywhere disagree with that

and if I cant control routing then what can I control to improve ping? Would lowering network-compression-threshold do smth?

[nimble ember]

it may or may not

compressing packets is a tradeoff

compressed packets are smaller, but it takes time to compress/decompress them

uncompressed packets are bigger, but it doesnt take any time to compress/decompress because they are uncompressed

[noble adder]

I know

[noble adder]

also apparently there are settings in tcpshield to control it

[reef fulcrum]

routing is down to the network backbone

a provider lke TCPShield may have pops around the world which can offer more reliable routing

but, for the most part, it's basic physics

[craggy trout]

Probably you can use TFO

No big deal, but it can speed up the opening of connections from a server to any client

[craggy trout]

Probably Velocity or some fork is better on this situation. Thanks to libdeflate

[noble adder]

doesnt waterfall also have that?

[noble adder]

what is TFO?

[craggy trout]

Waterfall didn't change bungeecord compression, how ever isn't a big change aswell

[craggy trout]

Tcp fast open

[noble adder]

where do I enable that?

[noble adder]

I mean I will switch to velocity anyways when I get unlazy

[craggy trout]

Is not on waterfall, but i can make a PR

[noble adder]

speeding up opening connections sounds good

[craggy trout]

As i said, is not too big change

[noble adder]

even some eu players said that they have to join the server like 3 or 4 times before it works

idk how its physically possible to have such terrible internet

[fringe spindle]

I have a waterfall server network, when a player is banned from one server for example lifesteal(upon losing all hearts) they are banned from all the servers. How do i prevent this pls help i am dead inside

[feral trellis]

Hello i recently testing bot joining the server through waterfall proxy 1.20 (Build 536) and the bot met the Connection reset error.

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, are you connecting using haproxy?

[noble adder]

use a ban plugin only on that server?

[fringe spindle]

Which and how

[noble adder]

you put a ban plugin only on the server where you want the bans to work.

[fringe spindle]

Uh...

[noble adder]

in that case you have to ask yourself the question if you even need a ban plugin

and if the vanilla /ban isnt enough

[fringe spindle]

See bro

The problem is

If i /ban in lifesteal server

It bans in other servers too

[noble adder]

which ban plugin are you using?

[fringe spindle]

None

[noble adder]

is the lifesteal server your only fallback server?

[fringe spindle]

There are 3 servers

1 is proxy

2 is survival

[noble adder]

you have to make all of them fallback servers if you dont have a lobby

[fringe spindle]

3 is lifesteal

[fringe spindle]

Wdym

[noble adder]

so that when players cant connect to lifesteal they are instead sent to survival

[fringe spindle]

YES

I WANT THAT

HOW ME DO THAT

[noble adder]

in config.yml under priorities

[fringe spindle]

There is my survival server in this

It also has a lobby via multiverse core plugin

So i just have to add lifesteal on second?

[noble adder]

wait

is lifesteal on a seperate server or on a seperate world?

[fringe spindle]

Separate server

[noble adder]

yeah then do that ig

[fringe spindle]

Oki darling

[feral trellis]

nah

[reef fulcrum]

Then don't have the proxy protocol enabled

[feral trellis]

which side?

server or proxy?

[reef fulcrum]

on your proxy

[feral trellis]

k

also i didn't even know what is haproxy

hey i'm back, even turning off proxy protocol i can't even join the game

[reef fulcrum]

you'd need to work out why the connection was closed

[swift narwhal]

Hi, i recently having this issue while restarting my proxy. Any ways of fixing this?
thx

Vers - Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:e7490f3:535

[craggy trout]

Can you update Waterfall to 1.20?

Probably some client is sending a login request with more bytes, and that's why it's giving that problem

[low sky]

Heyo, I'm getting bad packets when people ping the server: https://paste.techscode.com/oxakeyocagabemo

Also getting this here and then: https://paste.techscode.com/osomaturobuqabe

Would anyone know how to fix this?

Me and some others are using labymod, if that causes the issue, which it shouldn't.

Using the latest waterfall version :)

[fringe spindle]

didn

didn't work

I want there to be server specific bans, if a player is banned from lifesteal server he should be able to access other servers

[fringe spindle]

it is solved now

I just needed to delete essential plugin which links bans of different servers

thank you @noble adder anyway

❤️

[noble adder]

Not sure if that's even a good idea but it's your server so ye

[fringe spindle]

I don't need essential in lifesteal server

it is still there in other server

[swift narwhal]

i did.. still had the same error. I changed proxy and works 100x better now

[craggy trout]

What?

Waterfall works good, probably you added something that caused that problem.

[royal osprey]

how to check if someone joins the proxy but not run the code if it's just going trough the servers and same for disconnect, full server disconnect not just the backends

[craggy trout]

I think you mean a fallback server? You can use forced hosts, or some plugin Like RedirectPlus

[royal osprey]

in api code

[craggy trout]

Oh, sorry but you didn't clarify too much

[low sky]

[reef fulcrum]

cuute probably refers to a bot going around

but, theres nothing useful there, all we see is mangled data

IF people you know are getting issues, generally gonna start boiling down to reproducing without plugins, etc

if you don't, probably a case of using the firewall

[kind wave]

it says <-> InitialHandler has connected and nothing else

\

the whitelist is off on all backends

[tidal musk]

you probably have a whitelist plugin on your proxy

[kind wave]

have looked

these are all the plugins

[tidal musk]

alr well i have no idea

try whitelisted yourself

[floral onyx]

hello everyone,
It seems that we have an issue with our lobby server. We are using waterfall (#536) on a dedicated server. We have another server, running Paper 1.20.1 (#126), this server is our lobby. We then use ServerSelectorX 3.7.2 to redirect to three other servers (survival, minigame, creative).

We migrated from 1.19.2 to 1.20.1 a few days ago, since then players do have issues to connect to the lobby with the following error :  "Connection Lost ReadTimeoutException: null"
As a temporary fix, we reboot the lobby everytime this happens and it is fine for a few hours. But we need a proper solution.

Please find attached a log from this afternoon from the lobby server, hopping it might help.

Thanks for your help !

[tulip surge]

2023-08-15-3.log by @floral onyx: https://pastes.dev/V2TFDpAY0x

[reef fulcrum]

Your perm plug-in caused a deadlock

Suggest using a perm plug-in which is actually maintained

[floral onyx]

ah ! thanks !

may I ask where you catched that ? to learn

line 237 I guess

[pliant saffron]

no, that's a different error. further down at line 287 @floral onyx

LuckPerms is what a lot of servers use these days

[floral onyx]

Thanks, that's what we will do and go with luckperm. What is strange is that all other servers that we have are running smoothly

[reef fulcrum]

Because the thing basically caused a deadlock

Theres some headaches around perm stuff inside of bukkit, it's generally expected that you can check perms off the main thread

but, the promise for that is partially broken and somewhat of a pain to fix

but, most plugins end up replacing that entire system anyways, so it's kinda like 🤷‍♂️

[shadow helm]

Hello, i'm having issues tryna connect my fabric server to waterfall. my fabric server has cardboard so i used the regular method on tryna connect the server: online-mode set to false, connection-throttle set to -1, bungeecord set to true and put the ip in the proxy config.yml. am i missing a step or doing something wrong?

[shadow helm]

yo can you help me?

[reef fulcrum]

No

don't ping random people

[shadow helm]

you arent random your apart of the core team

[reef fulcrum]

you've also not said what your issue is and i feel too much like crap to drag it out of you

I have 0 involvement with you

[shadow helm]

yet you talk here? do you any experience with waterfall?

[shadow helm]

also just cause your having a bad day doesnt mean you can be a dick

[reef fulcrum]

Please stop pinging me

[unreal osprey]

Help?

I'm using waterfall

[spark swan]

hello i really have an ANNYOING problem
when someone ping proxy, it uses one of the ports available
after a while when all ports used players who want join get error:
max port usage
how can i fix that? before i actually do open task manager and kill one of the Java SE Binary and hope that was for ports
how can i automate this? like after max port usage reached, proxy automatically reset the port usage. ty

[spark swan]

seems y hav same problem here

[unreal osprey]

hm

[craggy trout]

It means the proxy didn't connect you to a server by port/address/firewall

[craggy trout]

What? The port should be always usable

[unreal osprey]

what is something I can do to fix it?

[craggy trout]

Check if your port, firewall and address are fine.

[spark swan]

like it uses all ports after a while

Error: cannot bind the host (maybe port is already in use)

[craggy trout]

Your server priority does not exist, set one.

[trim venture]

java.lang.Error: Method became inaccessible: me.cockram.thefeastdata.bungee.NetworkMessageEventBungee@11b8911c
        at net.md_5.bungee.event.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:53) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.20-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:ec41547:536]
        at net.md_5.bungee.api.plugin.PluginManager.callEvent(PluginManager.java:467) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.20-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:ec41547:536]
        at me.cockram.thefeastdata.bungee.TheFeastDataBungee.onNetworkMessage(TheFeastDataBungee.java:81) ~[?:?]
        at me.cockram.thefeastdata.SkyDataCore.lambda$new$0(SkyDataCore.java:65) ~[?:?]
        at net.md_5.bungee.scheduler.BungeeTask.run(BungeeTask.java:66) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.20-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:ec41547:536]
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1136) ~[?:?]
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:635) ~[?:?]
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:833) [?:?]
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalAccessException: class net.md_5.bungee.event.EventHandlerMethod cannot access a member of class me.cockram.thefeastbungee.TheFeastBungee$1 with modifiers "public"
        at jdk.internal.reflect.Reflection.newIllegalAccessException(Reflection.java:392) ~[?:?]
        at java.lang.reflect.AccessibleObject.checkAccess(AccessibleObject.java:674) ~[?:?]
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:560) ~[?:?]
        at net.md_5.bungee.event.EventHandlerMethod.invoke(EventHandlerMethod.java:19) ~[waterfall.jar:git:Waterfall
        ... 7 more

    @Override
    public void onNetworkMessage(NetworkMessage message) {
        System.out.println("NETWORK MESSAGE " + message.toString());
        getProxy().getPluginManager().callEvent(new NetworkMessageEventBungee(message));
    }

I dont understand what is the cause of this stacktrace

import net.md_5.bungee.api.plugin.Event;

public class NetworkMessageEventBungee extends Event {

    private final NetworkMessage message;

    public NetworkMessageEventBungee(NetworkMessage message) {
        this.message = message;
    }

    public NetworkMessage getMessage() {
        return message;
    }
}

Oh that is interesting...
I can completely break event firing by having an anonymous event listener...

        getProxy().getPluginManager().registerListener(this, new Listener() {
            @EventHandler
            public void onNetworkMessage(NetworkMessageEventBungee event) {
                System.out.println("Network message: " + event.getMessage().toString());
                if (event.getMessage().getMessage().startsWith("timings:")) {
                    System.out.println("Received timings: " + event.getMessage().getMessage().substring(8));
                }
            }
        });

[craggy trout]

Look this; Caused by: java.lang.IllegalAccessException: class net.md_5.bungee.event.EventHandlerMethod cannot access a member of class me.cockram.thefeastbungee.TheFeastBungee$1 with modifiers "public"

[sick grove]

hello, ive been running a survival server without any plugins but a player has managed to dupe loads of stuff, is there any known dupe glitches?

[serene tide]

This seems like a question for #paper-help

[wispy relic]

Apparently I am getting an multiplayer.disconnect.chat_validation_failed kick error

Is this coming from the proxy or paper server?

[unreal osprey]

Go to server.properties of your minecraft server, and turn off enforce-secure-profile: false.

[lime river]

Hey, I'm having an issue where a couple of my players are getting "Not Authenticated with Minecraft.net"

The vast majority can log in, but for a few the problem persists between restarts and logins / out

[winged pilot]

that usually happens when you try and join with a cracked account

if online mode = true

[lime river]

They aren't on a cracked account

can log into any other online server fine

[solid wadi]

Hey im using SimpleCloud Version 2.5.0 with Waterfall Build 536 and im getting this error while trying to connect to the server

[reef fulcrum]

all I see is something is tryna connect to a web server which has SSL certs its not happy with

generally either an issue with the thing t's tryna connect to or a borked JVM install

[tepid shoal]

Hi, i have a qustion. Luck perms for bungee add permissions management for the proxy? or theys paper's instances? and the prpxy can have permissions system?

[reef fulcrum]

yes, if you install it on the proxy it manages the perms on the proxy

[tepid shoal]

and for instance permissions I install it on the 2 servers and connect it to a db?

[reef fulcrum]

generally yes

[tiny robin]

its possible ?