waterfall-help

[astral mortar]

no logs so i am getting brain washed

I put the right ip and port

[marble kelp]

well something is disconnecting you which isn't the proxy then

make sure your PC can actually reach that port on the server

(server = proxy machine)

and that the server has the port&address open of course

and that you don't have some antivirus/firewall blocking it

[astral mortar]

i can join without waterfall/any bungeecord

[marble kelp]

so you are not binding to the correct address/port with the proxy

[astral mortar]

i did do it correctly

the same ip/port i used to join to the server

[astral mortar]

i see it's proxy side issue

[marble kelp]

and you are connecting to the ip and port that you have set in the config.yml, right?

[astral mortar]

Well i tried to connect the other server hosted in another computer

it threw the same error

but now its throwing this

[marble kelp]

well then you connected to the proxy but the proxy wasn't able to connect you to the paper server

[astral mortar]

what if it was spigot?

[marble kelp]

I would assume it should work the same, but really no reason to run that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[astral mortar]

so what can i do?

i am using my vps btw

with docket

[marble kelp]

figure out what is blocking the connection

[astral mortar]

also it did connect

[marble kelp]

or where in your setup the port/address is wrong/not forwarded correctly

[astral mortar]

It worked

[reef fulcrum]

it tells you the issue

your priorities list refers to a server which doesn't exist in your config

[pale orbit]

you problem, not the proxie

config basic the bungeecord

[craggy trout]

you should config your english tho

runs

[pale orbit]

what?

[craggy trout]

Probably you handled wrongly your config (such as port binding) or the firewall etc..

[tidal musk]

how i fix

[snow moss]

Hey, some users which are using 1.19.3 client get kicked from server when they chance a world with this message.
on 1.19.2 clients this not happen.

we user latest waterfall and latest paper builds.

[reef fulcrum]

make sure that the proxy is updated, otherwise, see logs

[snow moss]

there are no errors on log and yes, proxy (waterfall) is latest build #510

[tough vale]

there'll be something on the backend's logs

[snow moss]

no error on subserver log, too

[tough vale]

Not possible. There will be an error on either the proxy or the backend

(or sometimes both)

[snow moss]

when this happens in subserver log is just [20:38:58] [Server thread/INFO]: zermarvt lost connection: Disconnected

on proxy: [20:39:27] [Netty Worker IO Thread #7/INFO]: [/XXX.XX.XXX.XX:XXXX|zermarvt] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [Lobby-1] has disconnected

[reef fulcrum]

if that's all the info, no idea; something somewhere closed the connection

[snow moss]

ah wait on proxy this error:[20:38:58] [Netty Worker IO Thread #3/WARN]: [/XXX.XX.XXX.XX:XXXX|zermarvt] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [CityBuild-1] - bad packet, are mods in use!? Couldn't read all bytes from a packet. For more information, launch Waterfall with -Dwaterfall.packet-decode-logging=true [20:38:58] [Netty Worker IO Thread #3/INFO]: [/XXX.XX.XXX.XX:XXXX|zermarvt] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [CityBuild-1] has disconnected

the player use a clean minecraft 1.19.3 without mods or ressourcepack

it happens to all players who are using 1.19.3 client

[reef fulcrum]

so, something mangled a packet supposibly

[snow moss]

found the issue the Plugin "BungeePackFix" caused this issue 😄

[timid solstice]

Does waterfall have a ambassador equivalent? like velocity

[reef fulcrum]

not afaik

[craggy trout]

Im working on it, but seems more limited than velocity's one

[timid solstice]

That's amazing! Is there anywhere where I could keep posted on its development?

[craggy trout]

I will PR the main ambassador repo when it's finished.

[timid solstice]

Ok so cool! Ill have to check back in a couple months

My server was just about to become perfect but i lost my pixelmon server haha absolute necessity lol

[marble kelp]

just use velocity

[tranquil sky]

I am trying to connect Minehut.com server with SypherHosting and i nead help can anyone help me please? for example what cofig do i need how do i install it? (If you could vc it would be best but chat would work 2)

[craggy trout]

#velocity-help

[craggy trout]

For now you can use https://github.com/ArclightPowered/lightfall

[timid solstice]

THATS AWESOME! Does it support forge 1.16.5? Ill have to try it out

[craggy trout]

From 1.16 to 1.19.3

[shut carbon]

Is there a place to change the /alert prefix in chat? Please ping with response

[craggy trout]

Yes, https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/blob/master/proxy/src/main/resources/messages.properties

[long jetty]

What can cause this message InitialHandler - overflow in packet detected! ?

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, ideally you get the issue fixed

otherwise, use a log filter of some form

be that custom log4j config or something like console spam fixer

[brazen kindle]

what is query_port and whether or not it should be enabled? Does that have something to do with some people getting disconnected with connection reset by peer? It happens to some players, sometimes multiple times per day but not all the players get disconnected at the same time with that error, just selected but quite handful amount

[reef fulcrum]

query port is for the query protocol

most people generally don't need to care about it, and should probably disable it

[brazen kindle]

okay, so why some handful people get disconnected with connection reset by peer? It happens sometimes 2 times per day, sometimes 6 times per day. It's like the network choses who it kicks out from time to time, but it has happend to many players, it just doesnt kick a chunk out. They have nothing wrong with their internet as they average 10-30 ping

[reef fulcrum]

We can't tell you

thats pretty much the defacto "something external to us killed the tcp stream"

[brazen kindle]

so it has nothing to do with the server or how it's setup? Or might this be a problem too

[reef fulcrum]

It's hard to say

[brazen kindle]

is there any tips how I can rule it out? Is it my problem, their problem? Anything I should check for that might cause the problem?

[marble kelp]

well something is null 👀

[marble kelp]

depends on why it increases/crashes

[versed juniper]

Hi all
i configure waterfall Prority Join Lobby then type cmd go to Surviv when I go to Surviv and Discannect game and Join game redirect me in Survival didnt get me frist in Hub how to resolve this?

[marble kelp]

set force_default_server: true

[versed juniper]

Thx

[tidal musk]

someone can help me?

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @chrome wren: https://pastes.dev/H6SB3bR3qV

[steel surge]

One of your plugins is a bukkit plugin, you can't load those on a proxy

your config also has broken yaml formatting

[tidal musk]

i think not 1 but all my plugin can't loaded but before i restart the waterfall its ok

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @chrome wren: https://pastes.dev/DW3quqaKAP

[steel surge]

those are all bukkit plugins

offline mode is also unsupported

[tidal musk]

i was delete the plugin in the list error

but it still can't run

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @chrome wren: https://pastes.dev/k22bdFhlyR

[craggy trout]

Read the error please

[tidal musk]

i was fix all of error in config.yml but still like this

[22:21:27 ERROR]:       at net.md_5.bungee.conf.YamlConfig.getListeners(YamlConfig.java:256)
[22:21:27 ERROR]:       at net.md_5.bungee.conf.Configuration.load(Configuration.java:96)
[22:21:27 ERROR]:       at io.github.waterfallmc.waterfall.conf.WaterfallConfiguration.load(WaterfallConfiguration.java:67)
[22:21:27 ERROR]:       at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCord.start(BungeeCord.java:288)
[22:21:27 ERROR]:       at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCordLauncher.main(BungeeCordLauncher.java:67)
[22:21:27 ERROR]:       at net.md_5.bungee.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:15```

[craggy trout]

Just reset your config.yml i guess

You breaked it, and i think for you is easier reset it than fix it

[versed juniper]

I add Redurect Plun in my Proxy waterfall and Configure it then give me this mssage dont work when i type /Lobby instante of /server lobby
error:unable to send you all servers in that category are unavailable

[craggy trout]

I guess that's your plugin fault

[versed juniper]

really dont know

[dapper stag]

hi! why i see this
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/289587909051416579/1070016096658272306/image.png

waterfall online-mode=true
paper online-mode=false
(+geysermc+floodgate)

I understand that this can be disabled by the plugin, but maybe I'm doing something wrong?

[marble kelp]

not supported with the proxies, that's why you are seing it

[dapper stag]

What is supposed to be done in that case?

[marble kelp]

wait, hide/ignore the message, or fix it yourself

[dapper stag]

i.e. plugin only

[long jetty]

Anything on this? InitialHandler - overflow in packet detected! Cannot receive byte array longer than 512 (got 13976 bytes)

[reef fulcrum]

Generally means that something mangled a packet somewhere

[long jetty]

Could it be a outdated plugin on the proxy?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

could be many things

length 512 points to the public key stuff packets

[long jetty]

How about the anticheat Vulcan?

[reef fulcrum]

idk

[long jetty]

Suggested from VIA* discord

Hm, will try to check plugin versions and see if it gets better

In the motd preview, the client says the server is not joinable because it's on wrong version even tho I use the latest build from VIA* .

Strange thing is that on another setup with the same via versions players can join, so it must be related to a plugin

[craggy trout]

Do you have via on proxy=

If you do, i would remove it. Seems that uses more CPU due entity meta data usage.

[long jetty]

No

[craggy trout]

I see

Probably a plugin issue?

[long jetty]

I will update waterfall as it's way out of date

[marble kelp]

well fix it and see if the error persists

also whatever BungeePackFix is needs an update

[twin solstice]

provide the output of ./version

actually

no i think this is intentional to some degree

there hasn't been a new waterfall version in quite a while

the warning triggers after like 14 days or something

you ignore it

[nimble ember]

why is it a problem that its there? lol

well that message is most likely not the cause of that problem

and you know that because?

[steel surge]

waterfall removes the forced 10 second wait when using a build that's considered old

[pastel torrent]

For some reason I am not able to connect to the server and on startup there is this error even tho its the latest version;

*** Please check for a new build from https://papermc.io/downloads ***
*** Should this build be outdated, you will get NO support for it. ***

And the server is stuck on the starting phase for some reason?

[marble kelp]

what version

[pastel torrent]

I guess 1.19.3

Since I took the latest build

[marble kelp]

provide the full log

[pastel torrent]

alright

https://paste.revivenode.com/varibomefe

[marble kelp]

seems to have started without issues

[pastel torrent]

yep but its stuck on starting and I can't connect

[marble kelp]

are you connecting to the correct port? (25577)

[pastel torrent]

and for some reason

the error of me not connecting shows in the backend server?

[marble kelp]

sounds like you are using the incorrect port then

also your setup is insecure, setup a firewall/blocking plugin (https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/firewall-guide/) or run the Paper servers on localhost instead of a public port

[pastel torrent]

I have bungeeguard

and it is local host

and nope the port is all correcto

[marble kelp]

well if you are connecting to the backend server and not the proxy then the port is not correct

lol

[pastel torrent]

But I just checked

The port is 25577

 bind_local_address: true
  host: 0.0.0.0:25577

[marble kelp]

and that's what you type into your minecraft?

[pastel torrent]

no

[dapper stag]

hi! servers connected to the proxy still require mandatory offline mode?

[nimble ember]

backend servers must be in offline mode

authentication is handled by the proxy, so the only security you need is preventing connections to the backend server without going through the proxy

[dapper stag]

thx

[polar crown]

Is there a good way to communicate bukkit to bungee without plugin message?

I wanna send server's initializing data to bungee but it requires a player

[steel surge]

Messengers like redis are a good way if there's no player connected

[brittle sundial]

Hello. Can I get 1.18.2 waterfall ?

[marble kelp]

waterfall support 1.8-1.19

[brittle sundial]

THX

[hard atlas]

Hi, i have a problem, i want my players to reconnect to the last servee they were on.
I have force_default_server false but players still always connect to the default server. I have no plugin that redirect players

[reef fulcrum]

do you have a forced host?

[hard atlas]

My locations.yml file seems to be broken

[reef fulcrum]

that's the only other thing, outside of a missing server, that would send them to a different server; outside of plugins

[hard atlas]

I have the default one

Can it be because of my locations.yml file saving différent locations for same players?

[marble kelp]

what do you mean by "broken"? that looks correct to me

are you sure you don't have forced hosts with those subdomains?

[marble kelp]

yeah, that looks correct. and you restarted, right?

[hard atlas]

Yes

But locations.yml seems to save players with a différent port everytime

Maybe because i use a SRV redirection ?

[marble kelp]

oh right, didn't notice that

well are those the ports you use in your SRV record?

[reef fulcrum]

are you using RR dns or something?

the location file is basically name:hostname

[marble kelp]

because those look more like the client connection port to me tbh

[hard atlas]

I have infinity filter protection

What is RR dns?

[marble kelp]

probably the cause then

talk to their support

[hard atlas]

Okay thanks

[marble kelp]

if it's actually an issue in Waterfall then they need to report with more technical details (or ideally a fix)

because we don't really know how their setup works (well at least I don't xD)

[hard atlas]

Okay 👍

[marble kelp]

you could easily replace that functionality with a very simply plugin though if you need it fast/they can't figure it out

[hard atlas]

Yes i will do it if i don't find the solution

It should be fixed they said me to enable proxy protocol

[tidal musk]

guys

i have one issue

my waterfall was configured, but i receive error when i try switch server.
[ THIS SERVER REQUIRE FML/FORGE ]

[royal hawk]

Forge 1.13 and newer doesn't work with proxies. There are some workarounds for velocity and one mod/modified proxy based on waterfall, but it won't work out of the box

[tidal musk]

im using 1.12.2

[tidal musk]

.

[royal hawk]

In that case:

Use spongeforge

Pre 1.13 the only supported setups include forge with spongeforge configured in bungeecord mode

Mohist/magma/cauldron and whatever the names of the spigot/forge hybrid servers are called are not supported

[royal hawk]

If ^ this still doesn't help then you have a mod combination that just doesn't work with proxies. The scenario exists. If that happens to be the case you can remove mods till it starts working; you'll have the culprit then

[tidal musk]

the waterfall have any issue with spongeforge?

[royal hawk]

No, it's designed to be used with it

If you have an issue with forge 1.12.2 + spongeforge then you have an incompatible mod

You need to find and remove it

Otherwise switching servers will not ever work

[narrow flower]

just installed waterfall latest and am getting this:

*** Hey! This build is potentially outdated :( ***
*** Please check for a new build from https://papermc.io/downloads ***
*** Should this build be outdated, you will get NO support for it. ***

[royal hawk]

Can safely be ignored. We didn't expect there to be zero development around bungeecord or waterfall for this long at a time- but alas here we are

[nimble lantern]

Hi, Im getting old build warning on my waterfall build and i can't join to server

when i try to join, im getting this error Expectation Connecting:QuietException : Server is online mode

all config online modes are true and im using original minecraft account

[tulip surge]

config.yml by @nimble lantern: https://pastes.dev/XPt5mCrtEk

[tulip surge]

paper-global.yml by @nimble lantern: https://pastes.dev/pWcR0sUTpW

[tulip surge]

server.properties by @nimble lantern: https://pastes.dev/rO23CGHvVJ

[craggy trout]

Disable online-mode on your backends, the proxy handles Encryption (just enable it on bungee's configuration)

Isn't the proxy, seems a backend plugin problem.

[nimble lantern]

What's the name of 'proxy handles encryption' setting

There is two settings about that

[craggy trout]

online-mode=true

[nimble lantern]

thanks!

[stuck swallow]

I believe so too, but it started to happen after server moves from single paper server to bungeecord - lobby - survival server setup

so I thought something must be related somehow

[craggy trout]

I suggest you do a "vanilla" debug trying all by default (Waterfall and Backends without plugins)

[stuck swallow]

that is impossible because it happens after a while

like it could be 4 hours, or it could be 16 hours

[craggy trout]

But must be a plugin task^^

[stuck swallow]

will move to paper help channel then

[craggy trout]

[stuck swallow]

well can you confirm that this is not problematic at least?
I have Lib purpose plugin ( SigLib.jar ) that are installed in all backend server , and it registers channel of

        this.getServer().getMessenger().registerOutgoingPluginChannel(this, "BungeeCord");
        this.getServer().getMessenger().registerIncomingPluginChannel(this, "BungeeCord", new BungeeListener());

and just do something like this

    public static void sendPlayerToServer(Player player, String server) {
        try {
            ByteArrayOutputStream b = new ByteArrayOutputStream();
            DataOutputStream out = new DataOutputStream(b);
            out.writeUTF("Connect");
            out.writeUTF(server);
            player.sendPluginMessage(SimplePlugin.getInstance(), "BungeeCord", b.toByteArray());
            b.close();
            out.close();
        } catch (Exception e) {
            player.sendMessage(ChatColor.RED + "Error when trying to connect to " + server);
        }
    }

Not saying something's not working. is it fine to have these same plugin in all other backend server? or will it double register the "BungeeCord" channel and cause problem?

[craggy trout]

I don't think that makes crashing your server

It would throw the Exception

[tidal musk]

why i cant join to waterfall after i reinstall server?

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @chrome wren: https://pastes.dev/CovPupRT6v

[spark latch]

Does anyone know what is the direct link to download waterfall?

[wise kite]

https://papermc.io/downloads

[glacial helm]

when i put via version in my lobby it still says outdated version

when i put into waterfall plugins

it says plusing.yml blah blah i dont quite really understood

can someone help me out?

[spark latch]

I want direct download link

[glacial helm]

nvm

done did it

[spark latch]

I want latest build download link...

[surreal stream]

code a acript to do that

[twin solstice]

we provide a downloads API

but there is no latest download endpoint

[spark latch]

https://papermc.io/api/v1/waterfall/download/latest This one not?

[surreal stream]

i have a script that downloads the latest version

[twin solstice]

have you clicked on it

API v1 doesn't exist anymore

API v2 does not have a latest endpoint to combat people auto updating

[spark latch]

Ok

[twin solstice]

it doesn't take much work to create a script to download the latest version

[spark latch]

Can you give it to me?

[surreal stream]

yeah just add me in dm

[glacial helm]

what can i do?

between waterfall and lobby are connecting normally the only difference is lobby 1.12 and the one thats popping error is 1.19

oh nvm i think i firgured out the problem

XD

[marble kelp]

start by removing SlimeFun

also really not the right channel I just noticed lmao

[mystic oasis]

Yeah thats why I deleted

are you in irc?

[marble kelp]

yes

[tidal musk]

Hello, Whats the best way to prevent bot attacks that take down the entire network?

[tough vale]

Online mode

[tidal musk]

I know but lets say its not online mode. what are preventive measures to take. any plugins? configs?

[tough vale]

Offline mode is unsupported

[tidal musk]

thank you so much for help. I'll look for solutions elsewhere

[craggy trout]

I can recommend you some stuff, talk with me on private.

[tidal musk]

pls help me i cant join my server

https://pastes.dev/CovPupRT6v

[lost river]

looks like something in the title packet is null.

are you using the latest waterfall version?

also, check all the waterfall plugins you are using.

[tidal musk]

yea

[tidal musk]

ok

[fiery pagoda]

mostly just bungeecord instead of waterfall.

Can I add "paper" plugins to let's say a paper server? like only paper

or do I need a paper AND a waterfall/bungee plugin?

[marble kelp]

wat

waterfall/bungeecord plugins go into waterfall's plugins folder, paper/spigot plugins go into paper's plugins folder

you can't put them into one the other one

[reef fulcrum]

outside of the IP forwarding stuff, the server doesn't even know that the proxy exists

you'd just install plugins as normal on the backend servers ,etc

if you expect stuff to link between them, then you need plugins which support that

[fiery pagoda]

nah

I want a paper plugin in a paper server

not the bungee/waterfall

but that's really cool

thank you

[marble kelp]

ok but what was your actual original question?

[fiery pagoda]

for example, I have a plugin that doesn't support bungeecord (spigot plugin)

but I only want to download it for one server, and I don't want to download it in the actual proxy

I wanted to know if that was supported

[marble kelp]

sure

[somber mango]

how do I add a CLI flag (need to tunnel to minehut server)

[reef fulcrum]

CLI flag?

I mean, for flags, you'd add them to whatever you're using to start the proxy

but, er, idk how waterfall and cli flags and minehut go together

[quasi path]

Is there a way to Proxy a connection to a bungeecord/waterfall (Currently using waterfall) server with cloudflare? I know it works with a standalone server.

[nimble ember]

just do the same thing?

[quasi path]

unless I have some kind of config wrong it doesn't work, If I have cloudflare set to DNS Only, it works fine, but as soon as I enable Proxied, it stops working

if anyone has any fix or additional software I need please let me know, I've tried Nginx, couldn't get it working

[nimble ember]

do you have the setting to block proxy connections enabled

[quasi path]

I might, lemme check

prevent_proxy_connections: false

https://pastebin.com/PLJ22KU1

[royal hawk]

Yes; but you won't be protected by it. It will only work if you point an SRV record at a proxied A record.
Again no protection: by resolving the SRV record you will get the actual server ip

If you want to be protected by cloudflare with Minecraft you'd have to pay for cloudflare spectrum. I highly advise against it. You need at least a cloudflare pro plan for your domain and it's usage based. You pay per gigabyte of traffic. It's really really expensive.
Unless you can negotiate a better deal with them as enterprise customer it's not worth it

Services like TCPShield are many times cheaper

To put this in perspective

For TCPShield 1TB of bandwidth is free

For Spectrum it's 5-10gb

To get a terabyte of traffic on spectrum would cost you around 990-995$ usd + price of the business/pro plan

*without an enterprise deal

[topaz lava]

Hay short question is the own channels of Waterfall thread safe ?
(Plugin Message Channel)

[coral fractal]

Every time someone tries to add players to a team then waterfall crashes in some way and kicks player from the server. It's not a paper (1.18.2) since without waterfall option enabled issue is nowhere to be found

example log:

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @coral fractal: https://pastes.dev/lUosRLMMnx

[marble kelp]

the message is pretty clear, the team already exists

don't add duplicate teams

[coral fractal]

well i'm not, the bedwars plugin and znpcs plugin does it in the lobby and in the bedwars server. I will say it one more time it works without bungee enabled

[marble kelp]

well those plugins need to not add duplicate teams then

pretty sure you can't have the same teams on multiple servers? at least that's what I think the message is saying

[coral fractal]

since they are different servers why can't you have the same teams on the different servers?

with the same name i mean

[marble kelp]

because for the client they are not different servers

and bungeecord-based proxies are kinda limited in that regard as they have some limited scoreboard api built-in which needs teams to be unique too

I think Velocity handles that better

[coral fractal]

does that look nearly the same?

[marble kelp]

look?

[coral fractal]

i mean its as easy to change the server?

[marble kelp]

velocity is a proxy the same way as bungeecord is a proxy

it's just a completely different software and plugin api

[coral fractal]

i mean like work mostly the same and i saw one proxy where you could even see logging in msg

[marble kelp]

but it has most of the core functionality of bungeecord (server switching and a plugin api)

[coral fractal]

while changing servers, i don't really like that

okay i will try that

[coral fractal]

thanks!

it is working

the only thing is that ERROR StatusLogger Reconfiguration failed: No configuration found for 'AsyncContext@6d06d69c' at 'null' in 'null' is popping into the console

but other than that everything is working!

[meager dagger]

hello, is there any way to change this default message?

Could not connect to a default or fallback server, please try again later: Server not reachable (timeout). Offline? Incorrectly configured address/port/firewall?

[marble kelp]

I think it's part of the messages properties file

[meager dagger]

what is this file?
"@messages properties file" ?

Oh I got it
just opened the "waterfall.jar" file 🙂

[marble kelp]

yes, extract that and place it in your proxy folder

then you can modify it however you want

[meager dagger]

Oh, that's how it works? Great
thanks!

[latent hollow]

Is it possible to connect a waterfall server to another waterfall server?

Like connect to a different waterfall server through a waterfall server

If that makes sense

Heres an example:
Waterfall:

• server 1
• server 2
• waterfall 2
  • server 3
  • server 4
  • server 5

[lost river]

@latent hollow It is possible, but as far as i heard neither supported nor easy, and one waterfall server should be able to handle a lot of clients and subservers.

[latent hollow]

I'm trying to collaborate with another network that has its own proxy

Have already attempted to just simply add the proxy's IP in config.yml just like any spigot server

That doesn't seem to work

What else can i try?

[lost river]

i would just give the players the ip of the other network and tell them to connect that way.
Otherwise you could make the setup so that both waterfall proxies connect to the same subservers.

Waterfall 1:

• server 1
• server 2
• server 3
  Waterfall 2:
• server 1
• server 4
• server 5

[latent hollow]

Can't do that either

Won't let us connect cause IP forwarding

[lost river]

if ip forwarding is enabled on both proxies and all subservers, that shouldn't be a problem

[latent hollow]

Okay I'll give it a shot again, thank you for your help!

[lost river]

you might get other problems, because often the subservers are not reachable via the internet.

[latent hollow]

I see

Wait a minute

Its a cracked server

[lost river]

what is a cracked server?

their network?

or yours?

[latent hollow]

Cracked like uh.. minecraft that isn't premium

Okay that wasn't the best explanation

[lost river]

what server is in cracked mode?

[latent hollow]

Ah like.. offline mode?

Both

[lost river]

i know what you mean by cracked mode

for your interest, cracked/offline mode is also not supported

idk if offline mode also makes problems

my suggestion is still to tell the users to manually connect to the other network

but if both are offline mode, it might work

if one was online and one offline mode, you might get more problems, but idk since i never tested multiple proxies in offline mode for one subserver

[latent hollow]

Alright thanks again

[tough vale]

for the record unless you were throwing some considerable money at CF, it wasn't actually hiding your home IP

[quasi path]

well CF would add ddos protection and if you Proxied your A record it would prevent it showing up when using the Ping command

[tough vale]

Yes but CF Free's plan can only proxy http traffic, so you'd need to add an unproxied record in order to actually connect to the server

[quasi path]

I was able to get a single server proxied before

[tough vale]

You might have thought you had, but you didn't. CF free won't proxy MC.
also if you had, there's no difference between a single server and a proxy as far as all the network stuff in between is concerned - it has to be otherwise the client couldn't connect in the first place

[stuck delta]

Could i ask some help about this

Hmm wait letme change something

Still same alright time to waiting for help

[stuck delta]

Nevermind one of my hosting manager friend solved it

[nocturne dew]

what the hell is a minecraft that isnt premium

minecraft is or isnt cracked

[latent hollow]

i was a little messed up in the head when i said that

dont mind it

[nocturne dew]

ig

[latent hollow]

😂

[nocturne dew]

cloudflare only proxies http req, if you want to hide your srv record use something like tcpshield

[craggy trout]

Also he can use some reverse proxy if he haves other machine for

[nimble ember]

using a proxy on a host that connects to your computers server would work, no?

[marble kelp]

if you set port forwarding up properly or a vpn, sure

[royal hawk]

You could reverse-proxy the home-server if it wasn't a dedicated host. I recommend you use a free dyndns service

[royal hawk]

Right. But that only scrambles the hostname but still exposes your ip; to protect your IP you'd have to use Cloudflare spectrum (which is crazy expensive for non-enterprise)

[marble kelp]

dyndns will most likely not work properly

I strongly recommend just setting up a simple vpn like Tailscale so that one doesn't have to bother with IP changes and port forwarding

[proper kayak]

Im unable to download from the paper mc website, it keeps getting stuck on the attached image where you cannot access the file but its still there.

[marble kelp]

check your antivirus/firewall settings

or try a different browser

or a different download utility

[proper kayak]

same on microsoft edge

my anti-virus is off

[marble kelp]

I mean edge and chrome are pretty much the same browser

try firefox

[proper kayak]

i downloaded it using the main-download link (the exact one)

[marble kelp]

the download works just fine, this is an issue on your system/network

[proper kayak]

i got it downloaded now.

[craggy trout]

Best on windows it's edge, natively built for it. Firefox on windows sucks. On linux it's pretty

[marble kelp]

wat

it's literally just chrome

so it comes with all the issues chrome has...

[craggy trout]

Yes but works better on windows, i recommend Firefox on linux

[marble kelp]

this isn't #general

and your opinion is wrong but w/e

[craggy trout]

Is not a opinion, it's a test-fact, you can read it https://www.browserstack.com/guide/edge-vs-chrome

[craggy trout]

Ok

[astral mortar]

Does via rewind support in waterfall?

[marble kelp]

if it says so then probably?

[astral mortar]

it is not working?

Moap

[marble kelp]

contact their support then?

[astral mortar]

getting eroor

[astral mortar]

their support not good

[marble kelp]

that has nothing to do with us

[astral mortar]

they said it's up to the proxy

[marble kelp]

it's not up to the proxy to fix bugs in their plugin because I highly doubt that you are running beta 1.9 lol

actually that's alpha

[astral mortar]

i am running 1.8 server

[marble kelp]

test without any plugins. if it works then it's a plugin issue

also you don't really need viabackwards if your server it 1.8 already?

[astral mortar]

i am using rewind for 1.7

[terse wolf]

hello I have a problem when I want to connect to my server which and under waterfall I have this error message

I have mods on my mining server and on the client side are the same mods when I join with the mods I have the error message when I have 0 mods on the servers I can connect

and do you have a version of waterfall for 1.16.5?

[marble kelp]

latest works from 1.8 to 1.19.3

[terse wolf]

I tried a lot of stuff I can't do it at all I made a support request on mohist they didn't even answer

[warped barn]

Hello there.
I have loss tps of the Entities tick (from 20 to 18) and after 5 sec it is again 20tps.
I have all flags set up, but i dont know what cause a problem

[marble kelp]

#paper-help, this is for the proxy

again, #paper-help

this is the wrong channel

[warped barn]

Sorry

[vast bay]

guys how can i get commands like /send or /find on my waterfall server?

[royal hawk]

No forge support for minecraft 1.13 and newer. If you need this either use Velocity with ambassador or search for the one waterfall fork that uses a client mod to make it work with networks

[terse wolf]

Velocity and compatible with forge?

I can use it

[vast bay]

guys how can i get comamnds like /send or /find on my waterfall server, i mostly need /send

please

[marble kelp]

it's included by default

if you don't have access to it then you would need to grand the permissions with your permissions plugin

something like bungeecord.command.send/find iirc

[royal hawk]

If you're using a fork then you need to manually download these as modules. Check the papermc download api guide and download the modules you need manually

[vast bay]

Okay thanks

[vast bay]

3

3?

[craggy trout]

Use ligthfall waterfall fork

[vast bay]

yeah im gonna keeptrying on waterfall for a little bit longer then i might try ligthfall

[craggy trout]

Waterfall doesn't support modern FML, even Velocity doesn't without an plugin

[simple moat]

got a strange one... i have a server (purpur-1.19.3-1912.jar) that worked perfectly, but now that i've put it behind a proxy (waterfall-1.19-511.jar), i'm unable to send any chat messages. i've confirmed my chat is set to display and that i'm not muted. i am able to use commands normally, it's just chat messages affected. no error messages show and the attempted chat message doesn't show in the console of the proxy or the backend server. i'm using luckperms/LPC to manage chat and the same chat settings work on a non-proxied server. this one backend server is the only server behind the proxy.

• proxy plugins: bungeeguard, floodgate, geyser, litebans, premiumvanish, slingshot, vulcanbungee
• backend server plugins: BotSentry, BungeeGuard, Chunky, CMI, CMILib, CoreProtect, DrMap, FarmControl, floodgate, Geyser-Spigot, GSit, InventoryRollbackPlus, InvisibleItemFrame, LifeSteal-Smp-Plugin, LiteBans, LPC, LuckPerms, MoreMobHeads, PlaceholderAPI, PlayerParticles, PremiumVanish, ProtocolLib, RealScoreboard, RHLeafDecay, Shrug*, spark, TAB, Vault, VeinMiner, ViaBackwards, ViaVersion, Vulcan, WorldEdit, WorldGuard

any help or advice would be much appreciated!

also, enforce-secure-profile is set to false for both the proxy and the backend

if anyone responds, please ping me. i'm going to bed for now but i'll look here tomorrow. thanks in advance!!

[craggy trout]

Try to disable enforce_secure_profile stuff

Also plugins on proxy can trigger chat stuff

[simple moat]

It’s already disabled on the proxy and the backend server

[marble kelp]

try to remove any chat plugin and see if it works

also I hope you are testing with the same client and server version, mismatches can potentially cause issues

[simple moat]

I am. I will try without chat plugins after I get home from work

[spiral lava]

hello I have a problem when I want to connect to my server which and under waterfall I have this error message

I have mods on my mining server and on the client side are the same mods when I join with the mods I have the error message when I have 0 mods on the servers I can connect
and do you have a version of waterfall for 1.16.5?

don't even enter the lobby that doesn't need any mod

[royal hawk]

Forge 1.13 and newer is not supported.
You have two options:

1. Use Lightfall instead of waterfall with the lightfall client mod
2. Use Velocity with the ambassador plugin

[stuck swallow]

is it normal for waterfall to consume 400% CPU for only 220~230 players for i9 13900K or is something wrong?

[marble kelp]

do you notice issues ingame?

and you can always check with spark what is going on I guess

[stuck swallow]

no particular issue , and didn't know spark works in bungee too

oh, well it does . ok will check with spark later

just worried as it's already hitting 50-60% CPU with 220 player, which means there will be problem with higher player counts

[marble kelp]

I mean, that's just the percentage from one (virtual) cpu core

[twin solstice]

that's pretty good for waterfall tbf

bungeecord/waterfall isn't very efficient

[stuck swallow]

🤔

well.... it's quite.. bad. then does all 1000+ server technically all not use bungee but velocity?

[marble kelp]

I mean you can just use multiple proxies or a better CPI

*CPU

also it really depends on what is actually causing you the performance impact. E.g. if you have any plugins make sure those work properly...

[twin solstice]

i've had velocity eat 400% CPU for 600 - 700 players on an E2288G so

velocity is the way to go if you value efficiency there

but other than that, multiple proxies

[craggy trout]

No it isnt.

[craggy trout]

The percentages depend a lot on the processor, and plugins that the proxy actually has (rather how they are made).

[twin solstice]

which is why you should have as little plugins as possible / avoid proxy plugins whenever you can

[craggy trout]

Well, if the plugin doesn't strangle the buffers and it's good, it should work good.

[royal hawk]

I really wanna bring that down as much as I can with the intent system. What ain't loaded ain't consuming resources. Soon. Hopefully at least

[craggy trout]

I think that can be reduced by putting the compression level on harder (like 4-5)

It will sick your traffic, but i think it's worth

[royal hawk]

I'm sorry to say this but you don't seem to know what you're talking about.
I do have to admit however that my comment was in the wrong location for the topic

[craggy trout]

Wym? Im talking about up (that with velocity you can reduce a bit the cpu usage with compression levels)

[stuck swallow]

I don't have that many proxy plugins. I have three

litebans, luckperms, and minimotd

and.. a custom plugin which doesn't do that crazy things. just register custom channel and send some data back and forth

[hasty geode]

Hello

Can someone help me about this error?

[surreal stream]

something in the config cannot be casted to a boolean (true, false)

could be a typo

[terse wolf]

hello I have a problem with waterfall it does not want to start I do not really understand the cause

[hasty geode]

nope i didn't make any config error

i create a new server and this error started to happening

[royal hawk]

@reef fulcrum could it be we created a conflict when you pulled the upstream update?

[reef fulcrum]

Really doubt it , we don't really touch spigots config class

[terse wolf]

me ?

[reef fulcrum]

Something that's supposed to be a boolean is not

[marble kelp]

if you type "true" instaed of true then this will show

[real barn]

I have a waterfall server, I have many servers on it, but the problem I have is that when I ping the ports of other servers, I only want it to ping with the port where the waterfall server.
How do I fix this problem?

[marble kelp]

you would have to forward the ports somehow e.g. in your firewall

not really necessary in most cases though as you can just use the default port no?

[real barn]

The only method is the firewall, can't it be fixed from the settings and configuration of the servers themselves?

[marble kelp]

no, a server can only (easily) bind to one port

[sacred grove]

Hello,

I'm having issues with waterfall. Basically, whenever a player joins my server, or switches servers, cpu usage goes up to 30 - 40%. It's not due to a plugin, neither to a network issue. Can someone help me please?

[royal hawk]

There's a lot to be analyzed here:

1. I'm 90% sure that the "cpu usage" you're talking about is not the actual cpu usage but usage of a single thread. That's usually not even close to indicative of actual cpu usage
2. If you're hosting the server on the same machine you're likely seeing offset fallout from the server now processing a client
3. Compression also is a huge part on the cpu usage front. The higher the threshold the lower the usage but also the higher the threshold the more network bandwidth you need

You can also try velocity if you're so adamant it's not plugins. If you see the same there then you can actually be sure that this is normal

Side note: This is most definitely normal if you're hosting your stuff on a VPS. Most of those even the more expensive ones use shared cpu resources on the host; so they're really not suited for this application

[exotic lintel]

Hey, how can i fix this ?
https://hastebin.com/share/ehojebagiw.ruby

[exotic lintel]

Okay, have fixed it.
But when im clicking on the Restart Button. (Im Using "AMP" as Console)

I get this Message "Command not found" and nothing Happend

[twin solstice]

ask amp

[amber prairie]

I am getting a huge error when i try to join https://pastebin.com/YNeMJXmV

that also

[23:06:19 INFO]: RehanM[/] logged in with entity id 257 at ([Lobby]0.49118831231323945, 65.0, 0.4803456914501121)
[23:06:19 INFO]: RehanM lost connection: Internal Exception: java.io.IOException: Error while write(...): Broken pipe in my lobby thats the error

[reef fulcrum]

update tab

[hollow pasture]

Is waterfall compatible with fabric or forge?

[tidal musk]

my frend get error

[15:32:58 ERROR]: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "java.util.Map.get(Object)" because "submap" is null
[15:32:58 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.conf.YamlConfig.get(YamlConfig.java:131)
[15:32:58 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.conf.YamlConfig.getServers(YamlConfig.java:229)
[15:32:58 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.conf.Configuration.load(Configuration.java:118)
[15:32:58 ERROR]: at io.github.waterfallmc.waterfall.conf.WaterfallConfiguration.load(WaterfallConfiguration.java:67)
[15:32:58 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCord.start(BungeeCord.java:279)
[15:32:58 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCordLauncher.main(BungeeCordLauncher.java:67)
[15:32:58 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:15)

give solution or he sad

[cosmic trail]

yes me sad

me need solution

[craggy trout]

Waterfall is not compatible with modern Forge connections, try Ligthfall (waterfall fork with mod on client side)

[craggy trout]

Your configuration is wrong, fix it or reset it.

[arctic spindle]

hi

ı need 1.16.5 waterfall

[reef fulcrum]

use latest version, supports 1.8+, no reason to use outdated versions

[arctic spindle]

how can I find

[reef fulcrum]

find what? latest version?

[wise kite]

https://papermc.io/downloads

[arctic spindle]

i need 1.16.5

my server is on version 1.16.5

[reef fulcrum]

The latest version of waterfall supports 1.8-1.19.3

there is no reason to specifically use the 1.16.5 version of waterfall

[arctic spindle]

okey thank you

[arctic spindle]

ı need help

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @arctic spindle: https://pastes.dev/Du2PbDpKSG

[arctic spindle]

Can you help me ?

[craggy trout]

Some plugin is trying to invoke some methods but "legacy" is null

[worldly frigate]

Anyone know how to fix this?

I can join the hub server but not the survival

Note: i've updated everything to the latest & still get this error

[royal hawk]

You still have an incompatible plugin on the proxy

[worldly frigate]

on the proxy?

i've even tried disabling each plugin

[worldly frigate]

^

[craggy trout]

Try to remove ViaVersion and viabackwards

[worldly frigate]

Found the issue

removed via plugins out of proxy server and only put them in backend servers

working now

[craggy trout]

Yeah ,was obvuisly

[tulip temple]

[16:22:13 WARN]: Error whilst handling query packet from /***:42308
io.github.waterfallmc.waterfall.utils.FastException: No Session!

This keeps getting sent in my console, never seen it before

what normally causes this

[craggy trout]

That's a cached exception of Waterfall on the Query Handler

Some packet seems failing

[frozen cedar]

Hello I still have this problem. The Waterfall instances definitely listening to the address 0.0.0.0:25565 for example and the error always occurs when a player joins at random times (connection from Waterfall -> Paper)

I can't reboot the system atm and I'm not really sure this would fix the issue

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, hard to say because lack of actual stack trace

Would need to modify waterfall to get the actual full stack trace from, or connect a debugger of some form and listen for that exception

That would probably suggest an environmental issue, maybe disable bind localhost in config.yml I think it was

[gusty sleet]

Hello everyone,
I have a VPS that I use to run a normal paper server on. However I now want to start a modded server for me and a few friends that doesn't need to run 24/7. However I can't really afford to upgrade the VPS to handle both a modded and a vanilla server at the same time. I would like to run the server on my laptop and use Waterfall as a proxy for that since I can't do port forwarding, so my friends can connect to the server over the Waterfall instance.
Would that be possible with Waterfall? All guides I found so far (mostly for Bungeecord) only work if Waterfall and the mc server are running on the same machine, or if the MC server is port forwarded.

[royal hawk]

The easiest way would be to connect the external server to the VPS via VPN
Since you need to have some kind of reverse tunnel

Besides normal vpn;
Tailscale is an easier option but also very slow so I'd only use it as a last resort

[gusty sleet]

Ok, thanks 😄
Time to research how to make my own vpn 😄

[royal hawk]

You'll probably want to use wireguard since it's very low on resource usage

[summer stirrup]

Error occurred processing connection for Kinerz AnnotatedConnectException : finishConnect(..) failed: Connection refused: novamc.xyz/172.96.161.20:25570

Anyone know why it happens?

It comes out to some users but not all

[ancient aurora]

i can`t startup my waterfall plz help

[tulip surge]

config.yml by @ancient aurora: https://pastes.dev/wTbuD6ba7c

[tulip surge]

latest.log by @ancient aurora: https://pastes.dev/9DRGNGrk7B

[royal hawk]

Your indents are wrong.
Look at your servers again. The first few have correct indents.
The indents matter.
Fix them and it'll fix your config

[peak spindle]

Hello! Could someone tell me what are the dependencies and repository of waterfall 1.19.3 in maven?

I can't find it at all

[craggy trout]

The repository is;

<repository>
    <id>papermc</id>
    <url>https://repo.papermc.io/repository/maven-public/</url>
</repository>

And the dependency;

<dependency>
    <groupId>io.github.waterfallmc</groupId>
    <artifactId>waterfall-api</artifactId>
    <version>1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
    <scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>

[peak spindle]

Right, wouldn't there still be a dependency for 1.19.3?

[craggy trout]

There is no sub-versions, 1.19 represents all that

[peak spindle]

Wonderful Ismael! Thank you so much for you help :)

[craggy trout]

[nimble veldt]

Maybe more than one bungee

[royal hawk]

^ this, but in combination with haproxy for ingest and ideally dns load balancing onto multiple dedis

TCPShield doesn't even load balance as far as I know

Besides that it wouldn't actually distribute anything on your backend

Alright. Well then just use that and run it in that mode

Would seemingly have the same effect

[full ocean]

Hi is there a way to have all plugin permissions put on waterfall?

[nimble ember]

the proxy cannot handle backend server permission checks

[full ocean]

there are some plugins where you can only put on the proxy somehow i have to be able to use them without it telling me "you don't have permission"

[nimble ember]

then install a permission plugin on your proxy

[full ocean]

ok and now?

[nimble ember]

set it up

[full ocean]

How do I set the permissions to be able to run the command to access the permissions plugin?

[nimble ember]

also that is not the latest version of luckperms

[full ocean]

ok i update wait

[reef fulcrum]

See the luckperms wiki, you'd need to use the lpb command on the proxy, but, they have an entire host of documentation over how to set it up

[nimble ember]

where is clippy when you need him

[verbal cobalt]

Someone is having this error when connecting to the server over waterfall:
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Team ZZTCTeam50dd21fa already exists in this scoreboard

Does waterfall reset teams when players disconnect from one server and join another?

[royal hawk]

in theory it should, in practice the system is broken in a way that makes it impossible to be fixed correctly
A correct fix would break just about every scoreboard plugin there is

[verbal cobalt]

oh I thought, waterfall being a proxy, it could track the teams that were sent and send a removal for all of them

[craggy trout]

You could supress the exception thingy from the source and avoid it.

[verbal cobalt]

uh, how? The error is in the waterfall server, the packets are sent from an entirely different server

but the only thing Ive figured might cause it, is that I dont send a team leave on player quit

but I dont really see how thatll even work/help as the player probably is disconnected already

but, not 100% certain Im not just sending two team create packets for the same team on the server, so Im banking on it being the bug rather than the waterfall proxy

just wanted to check up just in case

[royal hawk]

Yea it's a bug. We don't deny that. The entire system behind it is fundamentally flawed and we are at a point where it should've been redesigned a long time ago.
But then again we can't really do that without massive backlash

[reef fulcrum]

team leave on player quit would be useless, as the old connection is closed after the new connection is established and all that; as five said, the things a bug, one that has existed for years, it's just fixing it without breaking scoreboard plugins is generally a no go; easiest fix I have is basically to just queue scoreboard related packets or something, but it's too much effort for something that will probably have to be reverted because plugins, woo

[verbal cobalt]

how exactly does sending an explicit leave for all teams when players leave a waterfall-proxied server going to cause scoreboard plugins to bug out?

dont they already assume that when a player leaves the server, teams reset?

[reef fulcrum]

unexpected state

This stuff is generally fragile as all shit in terms of what plugins expect

We DO send an explicit leave

but, it's pretty far down in the server switch process that it creates issues as the backend servers sends its scoreboard stuff often before we've gotten to cleaning out the last servers scoreboard

[verbal cobalt]

aha, that makes more sense

so if all servers use unique teams this should be less of an issue

[reef fulcrum]

yup

using unique team names is pretty much the only way around this unless spigot fixes this

[verbal cobalt]

Im just using packets so "im in control", but right now all servers use the same set of team names. So perhaps switching servers means the same team name is used on two servers

but idk, they error out well after joining the other server

if waterfall does in fact reset teams from the old server when switching, more likely the bug is on my end somewhere

[frozen cedar]

I actually think there is not a stacktrace for NativeIoExceptions, I may be wrong

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, even if there is not supposed to be one, it gets hard to say because there isn't one, so I can't see what the bind call it

the bind call looks to be from the bind localhost option thing though

[frozen cedar]

I'll try disabling it and will get back to you, thanks!

I don't understand yet what the call exactly does / why you would need it to be "true"?

bind_local_address - The value can be set to false or true. If you set it to true, the system will always try to redirect the player to servers that listen to the same IP as the BungeeCord server. If you negate it, the sub-servers can have different IP addresses. This value is only relevant for networks that run servers on different systems.

Sounds like I should set it to false as soon as I have multiple servers, shouldn't I?

[reef fulcrum]

I have no idea what the implication of that is

[full ocean]

Hi, sorry if I bother you, I was looking for a plugin (Famous) that serves to identify the client used by a person, if he uses multiple accounts on the same ip and similar stuff. So a plugin that helps in the staff

[whole hull]

Hi, how does priorities works ? because i want to do that when the lobby is down all players that are trying to join the bungeecord will join the lobby2

[reef fulcrum]

it literally just tries to connect you to the servers down the list

[whole hull]

enforce_secure_profile: false
listeners:
- bind_local_address: true
  force_default_server: true
  forced_hosts:
    0.0.0.0: lobby
  host: 0.0.0.0:25565
  max_players: 99
  motd: a
  ping_passthrough: false
  priorities:
  - lobby
  - lobby2
  proxy_protocol: false
  query_enabled: true
  query_port: 25565
  tab_list: GLOBAL_PING
  tab_size: 60
remote_ping_cache: -1
network_compression_threshold: 256
permissions:
  default:
  - lobby.use
log_pings: true
connection_throttle_limit: 3
timeout: 30000
player_limit: -1
prevent_proxy_connections: false
ip_forward: true
groups:
  md_5:
  - admin
remote_ping_timeout: 5000
connection_throttle: 4000
log_commands: false
stats: 77a0d7fd-a0ac-4061-93dc-69979254fbda
online_mode: false
forge_support: false
disabled_commands:
- disabledcommandhere
servers:
  lobby:
    motd: ''
    address: 1.1.1.1:25599
    restricted: false
  lobby2:
    motd: ''
    address: 1.1.1.1:25600
    restricted: false```

it doesnt works for me

lobby is down but lobby2 is online

i replaced the ip of my servers by 1.1.1.1

[reef fulcrum]

Can't work with an obfuscated config

[whole hull]

you need the real ip ?

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, idk what all you modifed to obfuscate it

  forced_hosts:
    0.0.0.0: lobby

is that actually 0.0.0.0, or did you replace your hostname to 0.0.0.0?

[whole hull]

i will copy paste you my entire config in dm

[reef fulcrum]

you shouldn't be using a forced host if you want prioritises to work

[whole hull]

without obfuscating it

[reef fulcrum]

I don't accept DMs

[whole hull]

ah

I can't show the ip of my servers in public

enforce_secure_profile: false
listeners:
- bind_local_address: true
  force_default_server: true
  forced_hosts:
    0.0.0.0: lobby
  host: 0.0.0.0:25565
  max_players: 99
  motd: a
  ping_passthrough: false
  priorities:
  - lobby
  - lobby2
  proxy_protocol: false
  query_enabled: true
  query_port: 25565
  tab_list: GLOBAL_PING
  tab_size: 60
remote_ping_cache: -1
network_compression_threshold: 256
permissions:
  default:
  - lobby.use
log_pings: true
connection_throttle_limit: 3
timeout: 30000
player_limit: -1
prevent_proxy_connections: false
ip_forward: true
groups:
  md_5:
  - admin
remote_ping_timeout: 5000
connection_throttle: 4000
log_commands: false
stats: 77a0d7fd-a0ac-4061-93dc-69979254fbda
online_mode: false
forge_support: false
disabled_commands:
- disabledcommandhere
servers:
  lobby:
    motd: ''
    address: [redacted]:25599
    restricted: false
  lobby2:
    motd: ''
    address: [redacted]:25600
    restricted: false
  missilewars:
    motd: ''
    address: [redacted]:25600
    restricted: false
  creative:
    motd: ''
    address: [redacted]:25500
    restricted: false
  oneblock:
    motd: ''
    address: [redacted]:25504
    restricted: false
  free-1:
    motd: ''
    address: [redacted]:25600
    restricted: false
  spleef:
    motd: ''
    address: [redacted]:25600
    restricted: false
  prophunt:
    motd: ''
    address: [redacted]:25596
    restricted: false
  free-2:
    motd: ''
    address: [redacted]:25599
    restricted: false
  free-3:
    motd: ''
    address: [redacted]:25600
    restricted: false
server_connect_timeout: 2000

apart from the [redacted] nothing else has been replaced

[reef fulcrum]

No idea, would need to see what the logs say

[whole hull]

of the bungeecord ?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[whole hull]

The entire logs or just the moment I logged in?

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, ideally full

but, like, moment logged on would contain the relevant stuff afaik

[whole hull]

That's a lot of ip to hide :/

[reef fulcrum]

use mclo.gs or whatever it was

[whole hull]

ok wait

[reef fulcrum]

best guess is going to be to reproduce without plugins, especially as some of those are known to cause wierd issues

[whole hull]

ok

i will try

It works without plugins

It will take a while to test which plugin it comes from

I tested it and it comes from JPremium

[royal hawk]

We don’t support setups that allow piracy so you’re on your own

[tidal musk]

Where can I find waterfall egg for pterodactyl

[grand geode]

What configuration do I need for a paper server when I want to use them with a waterfall proxy?

I don't find anything about that in the waterfall or paper documentation

[reef fulcrum]

basically, turn the backend server into offline mode and enable bungeecord mode in spigot.yml

[grand geode]

thats everything?

[reef fulcrum]

basically, yes

you'll probably wanna install bungeeguard unless you're running over a secure network internally

[grand geode]

okay thank you, for waterfall I should enable ip-forwarding, right?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[grand geode]

okay thank you, I think last question: How can in enforece joining using the proxy?

[reef fulcrum]

firewall or bungeeguard, basically

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @tranquil halo: https://pastes.dev/woJigGGE1r

[tranquil halo]

I'm getting this error when I connect from my main lobby server with mods, does anyone know what it could be?

[craggy trout]

I think that's not a waterfall problem

[dreamy breach]

Hi there, my server uses a waterfall proxy and allows me to join with no issues. But when another player attempts to join i get the following messages:
Waterfall Console:
[16:16:19 WARN]: [/78.145.100.56:59502] <-> InitialHandler - corrupted frame: A packet could not be decoded because it was too large. For more information, launch Waterfall with -Dwaterfall.packet-decode-logging=true
This has only started recently, performed server restarts and same result.

Many thanks.

[reef fulcrum]

because it was too large

if it's just kicking that player, it's probably something wrong with their player data, or something in the area they logged into or something

i.e. oversized inventory item

[dreamy breach]

My issue is, I am unable to find player data for the person that is joining the server. There is no player data on the server for them.

[reef fulcrum]

are they a brand new player?

[dreamy breach]

no, however i cant find player data. Is there any files that can be removed to fix this perhaps? I would like a fix ASAP ideally as it is a public server and not limited to just friends.

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, the player data would be in the world folder

[nimble ember]

does waterfall even store any player data

[reef fulcrum]

no

[nimble ember]

obviously plugins can, but i mean on its own

[reef fulcrum]

like, there is the "last server" thing, but, otherwise, no

[dreamy breach]

An update, the player can join on (1.16.5) but not higher. I am thinking this may be a viaversion issue. Ill take a look

[dreamy breach]

It does give outdated server on the server listing so I do also think it is because of waterfall being 1.16. In that case, is it possible to run 1.19 waterfall with spigot servers being 1.16.5?

[reef fulcrum]

waterfall supports 1.8-1.19.3

[marble kelp]

waterfall supports 1.8 to latest

[feral zealot]

Hi, this is a request of what is waterfall, and understanding the background portfolio behind its reason for use. Thank you, and these are a few topics questions that could be answered = V. Choosing the Right API
A. Comparison Paper vs waterfall or velocity.
B. Factors to consider when choosing an API
C. Use cases for each API

[craggy trout]

I think you're mixing too much

Waterfall is a BungeeCord fork (proxy) that improves stability and performance

Velocity is a high peformance proxy with a newer API and other features

Paper is a backend i think out of scope here.

I guess that if you are just fine with Spigot/Bukkit API, Waterfall/BungeeCord API is fine for you

If you like Paper API id' suggest you Velocity

[feral zealot]

Thanks very much for the follow up advice.

[fickle carbon]

is there a list of commands somewhere? /send does not work. I am OP, just to be sure I gave myself perms for bungeecord.command.send

google search for waterfall commands brings up minecraft middle earth

ahh, I see I can do that command from the proxy console. any way to do it in game?

[royal hawk]

Install a permissions plugin on the proxy
We typically recommend LuckPerms
The command for LuckPerms on the proxy is /lpb
You can set the permissions using that

Fair warning; the proxy doesn't have the concept of "operators"

[fluid lava]

I'm presuming 344gb inbound and 288gb outbound on a waterfall server with 4d uptime and 6 players online isn't great, is there a way I can figure out the issue of whats causing that much network data?

[marble kelp]

pretty sure there's command line tools that can show traffic by process

e.g. nethogs

[fluid lava]

Okay thank you, I'll check it out

[marble kelp]

just so you know: if your minecraft data (like the world) is actually that big then it kinda makes sense?

[woeful snow]

What is the difference between waterfall and bungee

[craggy trout]

Waterfall is a fork that aims for better performance and stability, aswell it supports better forge (with ip_forwarding enabled)

[warm spindle]

Hey guys, I was going on my server fine and now I suddenly can't connect and it's giving me this error:

could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(16) + length(1) exceeds writerIndex(16): PooledSlicedByteBuf(ridx: 16, widx: 16, cap: 16/16, unwrapped: PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 13490, widx: 46475, cap: 65536))

any ideas?

[craggy trout]

Not too much information, some packet couldn't be decoded

Try without plugins, on a vanilla client etc..

[royal hawk]

^ we need the actual error log

[clever hill]

Hi i wanna join my minecraft server but this happen
Log : https://pastes.dev/v8WE5P6VC5

[lost river]

NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "String.length()" because "s" is null
at net.md_5.bungee.protocol.DefinedPacket.writeString
...
packet.Title.write
Looks like a plugin might be doing weird stuff with titles.

[marble kelp]

probably sending the wrong packet or a wrongly formatted one

[limber gale]

hi is tnt duper possible in minehut paper server?

[nimble ember]

wrong channel

[plush crown]

I need help with a thing

my mythicmobs plugin require -Dpaper.useLegacyPluginLoading=true

where do i add it?

[mental thunder]

To your startup flags on backend server (has nothing to do with waterfall)

[novel moon]

hi anyone knows why my waterfall proxy takes few seconds to ping or connect to compared to a paper server even tho both are running on the same machine

[reef fulcrum]

Generally, looooong standing issue which nobody knows the cause of

generally it kinda seems like a weird client issue, but, god knows

[wicked saffron]

hello, i'll help a friend soon with his minecraft server, he already did a single paper plugin with tons of things, i'll need to add stuffs to that plugin, but i'm wondering if it can cause performances issues to have a single plugin doing everything ? i'll add something to manage team of players

[marble kelp]

no, it depends on what the plugin does

and how it does it

[wicked saffron]

sorry i'm in the wrong channel, moving

[buoyant spindle]

This is an attack?

[craggy trout]

You ran out of memory, it could be a attack but the problem was the RAM.

[buoyant spindle]

I had never ran out of memory, even when I had 200 players. Now there is only 50. So it must be an attack. How to investigate it?

[reef fulcrum]

you'd need a heap dump

[buoyant spindle]

and why I have full GC when the memory usage is only 500MB? I allocated 1GB to waterfall

then the memory goes down to 350MB and slowly increase to 500MB and again full GC. And every full GC the memory goes down to bigger number, first to 350MB, next to 360, 370 and after some time full GC must be execute every 1 second

I did not add any new plugin

to waterfall

[buoyant spindle]

1GB is not enought for waterfall with 100 players?

[craggy trout]

Is it

But plugins that are bad could strangle the buffer or either bad memory usage

How ever, buy some AntiDDoS to prevent attacks?

[buoyant spindle]

AntiDDoS? I am using reverse proxy with nice layer7 protection

[craggy trout]

Then is not filtering properly the attack

[buoyant spindle]

I think it is not an attack becouse now I see that I had FULL GCs many times in last few months but the server never stuck like today

[craggy trout]

Actually the last thing to fill up in a typical minecraft attack is ram. It tends to increase the bandwidth consumption in a big peak and the virtual consumption of a core.

Disabling the logs could help a bit.

[craggy trout]

Then it must be a plugin surely, Waterfall by itself without plugins should hold more than 100 simultaneous players with 1gb.

[buoyant spindle]

I noticed that memory usage slowly increases and when 500MB then the FULL GC starts

[craggy trout]

Also, if the consumption worries you too much or you don't have enough hardware you could switch to Velocity, you will notice a slight improvement against the consumption I guess.

[buoyant spindle]

how to make heapdump on waterfall?

[craggy trout]

https://www.baeldung.com/java-heap-dump-capture

[mild bobcat]

Hey! Does anyone know about a plugin, or solution to allow waterfall dynamically resolve backend domains, and thus allow me to use a dynamic dns address as my backend server?

the netty dns resolver doesn't resolve the domain again, if the address changes

[reef fulcrum]

disable the netty dns resolver

[silk thunder]

How can I decide what I should use as my proxy server. Waterfall or Velocity?
Are there big differences?

[tough vale]

Waterfall is a fork of Bungeecord that tries to improve performance somewhat and improves the API a bit. Velocity is a new proxy written from the ground up learning from Bungee's various mistakes.
If you're starting a new server, and you can find plugins to do everything you want for velocity, then go with velocity, otherwise waterfall/bungee

[silk thunder]

Thank you! Yes I want to start a new server.
Do you mean plugins for the proxy directly or plugins for the sub or gameserver which communicate with the proxy?

[tough vale]

Plugins for the proxy. Velocity's much newer than bungee which means unfortunately less plugin selection, though all the major ones have either an official port or an unofficial clone by now

[silk thunder]

Yes okay. e.g. Luckperms already has velocity support I have seen.

Thanks again for the info!

[lime dove]

Help what's this error?

[proper kayak]

[02:40:50 INFO]: [MrDiploBen] disconnected with: Could not connect to a default or fallback server. Incorrectly configured address/port/firewall? ```

[reef fulcrum]

if ptero, see pins

[craggy trout]

Your configuration is wrong, either fix it or reset it

[proper kayak]

Already added them rules?

Nvm I need to test it now

[proper kayak]

Question about waterfall

How would you make it so it only connects to the default lobby? It just keeps sending me back to that server when i rejoin, not the lobby.

[marble kelp]

In config setup lobby as main?

[proper kayak]

yes

server_connect_timeout: 5000
listeners:
- bind_local_address: true
  force_default_server: false
  forced_hosts:
    172.18.0.1:25566: lobby
  host: 0.0.0.0:25565
  max_players: 1
  motd: '&1Another Bungee server'
  ping_passthrough: false
  priorities:
  - lobby
  proxy_protocol: false
  query_enabled: false
  query_port: 25577
  tab_list: GLOBAL_PING
  tab_size: 60
remote_ping_cache: -1
network_compression_threshold: 256
permissions:
  admin:
  - bungeecord.command.alert
  - bungeecord.command.end
  - bungeecord.command.ip
  - bungeecord.command.reload
  - bungeecord.command.kick
  default:
  - bungeecord.command.server
  - bungeecord.command.list
log_pings: true
connection_throttle_limit: 3
prevent_proxy_connections: false
timeout: 300000
player_limit: -1
ip_forward: true
groups:
  md_5:
  - admin
remote_ping_timeout: 5000
connection_throttle: 4000
log_commands: false
stats: b0a84eb4-daf6-49f6-bf47-afd0a4bdec45
online_mode: true
forge_support: false
disabled_commands:
- disabledcommandhere
servers:
  EarthSMP:
    address: 172.18.0.1:25567
    motd: '&1Just another Waterfall - Forced Host'
    restricted: false
  lobby:
    address: 172.18.0.1:25566
    motd: '&1Just another Waterfall - Forced Host'
    restricted: false

[undone tundra]

Getting booted when trying to join, and cannot pinpoint the issue, its a bit odd that the kick message is that the server went down (it indeed did not), is this issue originating from waterfall or paper?
Paper server:

[23:53:06 INFO]: AdrianIsEpic24[/*************
] logged in with entity id 1609 at ([Towns]324.6738520660491, 117.36653084773141, -180.25868174420398)
[23:53:07 WARN]: [Jobs] For input string: "*"
[23:53:39 INFO]: AdrianIsEpic24 lost connection: Disconnected

Bungee server:

AdrianIsEpic24] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [towns] - read timed out
[23:53:39 INFO]: [AdrianIsEpic24] disconnected with: The server you were previously on went down, you have been connected to a fallback server

[proud olive]

Can someone help me?

When I use any plugin /lobby/hub in Waterfall I end up being disconnected when using it.

If I just use /server lobby I get infinite load.

Waterfall: last build
Lobby: 1.8.8
Survival: 1.19.3

[indigo dune]

Geyser installed?

deactivate it

[craggy trout]

Probably the plugin is doing random stuff

[tidal shard]

hey

%bungee_faction% placeholder returns 0 when its not 0

help

using waterfall #513

[royal hawk]

You sure there's a server named faction and it's not factions?

[tidal shard]

im sure

[royal hawk]

Uppercase letter ;)

[tidal shard]

already tried ;)

[royal hawk]

No what I'm saying is

The placeholders don't support that

Rename your server

[tidal shard]

ah

thanks

why

[royal hawk]

That's a question for the papi support
But that's been the case for a long time now

I remember back in the 1.8 days this was already an issue

[tidal shard]

can i reload waterfall config without restarting it?

[royal hawk]

I think there was a command for that but it won't correctly update the server name until a proper restart

[tidal shard]

e

[brittle echo]

Sorry maybe its a stupid question but where can I download the Waterfall 1.16.5 version?

[steel surge]

on the downloads page

[brittle echo]

but the title of the waterfall version is 1.19

[steel surge]

it supports 1.8 through 1.19.3

[brittle echo]

ah ok nice

thanks

[winged pilot]

does waterfall need to update to support .4 or will it work with only viaversion

[marble kelp]

upstream update wen?

runs

[bitter lark]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Waterfall/pull/792

[craggy trout]

Don't use ViaVersion on proxy please

[winged pilot]

I've never had a problem with it

[marble kelp]

it already supports it

[winged pilot]

I understand it's not recommended by some, but I've never had an issue so I don't see a need to put it on the backends instead

it just creates more work when updating instead of just updating the one jar

[marble kelp]

that's just an issue with your setup

viaversion on the proxy will not work as well as on the minecraft server

[winged pilot]

in what way though?

[marble kelp]

some world information is not (easily) available on the proxy for packet translations

it really depends on the versions that you want to translate between though

[winged pilot]

just 1.19+

i dont support anything below it

[craggy trout]

Also ViaVersion uses Entity rewriting, that slows down the performance of BungeeCord even more

[craggy trout]

It's known to cause problems with some setups, not all

How ever, is redundant. Waterfall already supports all the protocols above 1.8

[winged pilot]

I see, I'll change it when I have to reboot my waterfall again

[velvet hedge]

I'm having an issue with the latest version of Waterfall, OP'd players can't join (get a connection reset message), and giving someone OP instantly kicks them. This is what's showing up in the log when it happens:

[01:11:25] [Netty Worker IO Thread #2/WARN]: [Dakotaa] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [factions] - could not decode packet! java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: No provider for argument ver
�targetminecraft:resource_locationminecraft:ask_server
�    targetPosminecraft:block_pos
�targetminec
[01:11:25] [Netty Worker IO Thread #2/INFO]: [Dakotaa] disconnected with: The server you were previously on went down, you have been connected to a fallback server

This is on a server with no plugins installed, as well as no plugins installed on the proxy. The server is running 1.18.2

[bitter lark]

https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/commits/master yea...

[bitter lark]

just gonna merge upstream from bungacord

[heady wave]

Anyone are experiencing random disconnects with latest waterfall?

[heady wave]

Ahn yeah

Same issue here

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @coral vale: https://pastes.dev/i04pDAoHkT

[coral vale]

how to fix

[twin solstice]

that's not waterfall

[coral vale]

its bungee

[twin solstice]

and i've also already answered you

yes

and this is waterfall support

we don't maintain bungeecord

[coral vale]

why

[twin solstice]

because we're not the developers of bungeecord

[coral vale]

can you send me link of bungee support

[twin solstice]

google

[coral vale]

k

[twin solstice]

or do what i said and switch to waterfall which is literally a fork of bungeecord

and actually read what i've said before

[coral vale]

k

[clever hill]

[14:10:23 INFO]: [] disconnected with: The server you were previously on went down, you have been connected to a fallback server```

[upbeat pike]

fixed in BungeeCord, Waterfall must be merged upstream

[bitter lark]

it was

[timid solstice]

Hey I changed my server from online to offline. I didn't realize in this process the UUIDs would all change. What's the best way to go about fixing everything?

!Should've tried that! Preciate you though. Would you know if there is any way in maintain the servers UUIDS when changing to offline mode? I have two different friends who lost their acc and refuse to rebuy.

[reef fulcrum]

Outside of a hybrid offline + online mode, no

but, such setups are prone to stupid issues and 100% unsupported

[tired inlet]

how to fix ?

[tulip surge]

message_28.txt by @tired inlet: https://pastes.dev/X04b7zXIvs

[reef fulcrum]

was you shutting the proxy down or something?

Hard to say as there just isn't enough info, but, er; that would generally suggest that something was shutting down

[tired inlet]

no

let me assign my public log

[fringe dust]

Hello,
Waterfall proxy will connect to one server but not the other
I have a machine running proxmox running three different vms. One for the proxy, one for server 1 and one for server 2. For some reason i can connect to server one but when i try server 2 it says it dont exist. They r boith configured the same except different ports and the config for waterfall has these ports configured. is having one system running 3 vms out of 1 lan port a problem? No plugins installed. Multiple restarts wont fix it either.
Thanks I’m advance to anyone who can help

[reef fulcrum]

show logs and config

[tired inlet]

pls help

[tulip surge]

message.txt by @tired inlet: https://pastes.dev/ew0r9ggll7

[tired inlet]

how to fix ?

[reef fulcrum]

Probably incompatible versions of the via plugins

[frail bay]

https://haste.mohistmc.com/ifekakuxap

someone knows why am I getting such errors?

[reef fulcrum]

Probably a network issue or something

before you get to the unsupported offline mode + the fact that given you're posting in here means that you've probably not configured the backend server properly for the fact that its in offline mode behind a proxy

[frail bay]

but the server is in online mode?

[reef fulcrum]

Your player has a v3 uuid

[frail bay]

oh wait

my bad

someone did change the config

[reef fulcrum]

your proxy is in offline mode, either that or you didn't configure the servers for a proxy

[mild bobcat]

Hey! Is there a custom startup option for custom session servers?

or how can I use a custom session server with waterfall?

[fringe dust]

Here is the logs and configs for the response to my earlier message

[tulip surge]

configs_and_log.txt by @fringe dust: https://pastes.dev/EHphJtbzXV

[fringe dust]

did i mess something up?

[bitter lark]

you can "rewrite" and force UUID on bungee

but you're gonna have to have own uuid to username map / db for it

    public void setUniqueIdUnsafe(UUID uuid) {
        this.uniqueId = uuid;
    }

in public class InitialHandler extends PacketHandler implements PendingConnection via LoginEvent

you can even do it afterwards and for online mode players but it's gonna require use of reflection

none of this is probably gonna be part of premade solution tho

[whole vigil]

HELP

https://pastebin.com/ZVHYLi32

I am making a bungee cord server and I cant stop my server unless i kill it

[tough vale]

you broke your config

[whole vigil]

i just realized that

thx

[whole vigil]

Now I dont know what wrong

https://pastebin.com/9e9vbchG

[tough vale]

you've got lobby indented incorrectly

[whole vigil]

oh

Ok thanks

it work

mb

[whole vigil]

Now my server is not restarting and I have to kill it

[tough vale]

Don't ping.

Why not?

[whole vigil]

Sorry

[tough vale]

which host

and is this intentionally a proxy plan or not?

[whole vigil]

puffer fish and I have no idea

[tough vale]

Look in your panel settings, do you see an option to change the stop command?

[whole vigil]

wdym

[tough vale]

Look in setttings, is there anything relating to the stop command?

[whole vigil]

No

[tough vale]

all right then reach out to puffer support and get them to change your egg to a waterfall egg or at least change your stop command to the correct one

[whole vigil]

Ok

Thank you

[whole vigil]

What is the permission / command to join the other server

[jolly ibex]

by default everyone has permission and command is /server https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bungeecord-commands/

[late valley]

Do you know what this issue is we’re using waterfall latest version and this keeps happening

When ever we type a cmd

[misty sundial]

Hello. I have a question. Is there currently a good way to have a Waterfall Network with Paper servers and a server which support mods like a Forge server?

[craggy trout]

Literaly a packet missiong signature

[late valley]

Yeh and what does that mean lol

I ain’t a dev so idk what is going on here

[reef fulcrum]

generally a borked client

[umbral spoke]

Hello, hope we can fix that, i dont know which steps i can make. First for example id like to have more details so where i have to add the code in the message below? And any ideas from where this issue can come? Thanks in advance 🙂

DownstreamBridge <-> [Purpurtest] - bad packet, are mods in use!? Couldn't read all bytes from a packet. For more information, launch Waterfall with -Dwaterfall.packet-decode-logging=true

[reef fulcrum]

before -jar in the start command

literally all that tells is is that we read a mangled packet

general thing is going to be to check plugins

[umbral spoke]

only checking by disable one by one?

[reef fulcrum]

depends on your knowledge

you can generally exclude plugins which dont mess with packets

[umbral spoke]

This is in the startconf i think its a little bit much but i didnt change anything even the last codesnippet before the -jar

${java} -Xmx${memory}M -Dterminal.jline=false -Dterminal.ansi=true -Djline.terminal=jline.UnsupportedTerminal -Dlog4j2.formatMsgNoLookups=true -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -Dwaterfall.packet-decode-logging=true -jar purpur.jar nogui

[reef fulcrum]

those flags are designed for mc servers, the proxy generally doesn't need that stuff as it has a different memory usage pattern

[umbral spoke]

dammed now im lost so i didnt change hard things and now my proxy is broken in console so how is it possible that i restart the proxy and im on server? Normally i should be kicked out so what is going wrong now? xD

[little terrace]

Does waterfall support ipv6 players?

[craggy trout]

Actually it implements Inet6Address so yes.

[misty sundial]

I wan't to have arround 4 lobbies. What is the best way to load balancing these lobbies? That when you connect to the server you get on a random lobbie

[craggy trout]

I'd suggest you to search some plugin that handles that

[misty sundial]

Yes okay, what I found yesterday is the plugin called MultiLobby

But there is no built in function in Waterfall right?

[umbral spoke]

Hello im backl and now i have a new info about my problem 🙂

I deactivated all Plugins on my testserver and tried to join with fabric withoud any mod and thats the result. Any Ideas?

|RealRay] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [Purpurtest] - could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(5) + length(1) exceeds writerIndex(5): PooledSlicedByteBuf(ridx: 5, widx: 5, cap: 5/5, unwrapped: PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 6, widx: 1879, cap: 8192))

[craggy trout]

What version of Fabric?

[umbral spoke]

This info i got with fabric 1.19.3

[craggy trout]

Waterfall doesn't support modern forge

[bitter lark]

uh huh?

[umbral spoke]

So theres no version where i can join with...i get the same error on original 1.19.3/1.19.2 and on this Server no Plugin is loaded 🤔
could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(5) + length(1) exceeds writerIndex(5): PooledSlicedByteBuf(ridx: 5, widx: 5, cap: 5/5, unwrapped: PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 6, widx: 260, cap: 8192))

My current Version of Purpur is

Previous: git-Purpur-1777 (MC: 1.19.2)
* You are running the latest version```

[craggy trout]

The patch validates that chat messages are non-blank

[timid solstice]

Just updated my server and Im getting "Proxy lost connection to the server" any ideas how I can fix this? Thank you

[fickle carbon]

is waterfall ready to go if I update paper to 19.4? This is my first update since linking with a proxy server and Im also wondering for the devs, how does the task of updating the proxy compare to updating paper?

[wary osprey]

what is the difference between waterfall and Velocity?

[bitter lark]

it was days ago, you generally just roll over new jar and you're done

1.19.4 support was added 4 days ago https://github.com/PaperMC/Waterfall/commits/master it's a bungee fork so it's good idea too keep an eye on updates (bungee and waterfall)

initial builds with 1.19.4 support had some issues for example, etc

[surreal stream]

https://docs.papermc.io/velocity/comparisons-to-other-proxies#waterfall

can't recommend it

[fast mesa]

I am using on the proxy the latest version of waterfall and on the fallback server the lobby the latest version of purpur. Further i use also the latest version of purpur on the survival server.

The next problem occurs. After a amount of time players cant join the survival server anymore and get sent immediately back to the fallback server. There are no errors or warnings on the proxy server, lobby server and the survival server. What could be the problem?

I would like to know this could mabey be a waterfall issue. Otherwise i will ask into the purpur discord if it could be something with purpur.