#waterfall-help

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hexed pecan
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This is it Now

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when i make the /send command

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when i make /server name it works

unkempt girder
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Are you using Via plugins?

hexed pecan
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yes

unkempt girder
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Update to latest dev builds

hexed pecan
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i have

unkempt girder
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Well, try removing plugins then

south niche
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hello someone has the waterfall 1.16?

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help

hexed pecan
hexed pecan
hexed pecan
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pls ping me if someone have an idea

opal schooner
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Hello, so a chunk a corrupted at my spawn and playerdata files are part of the world. Is there anyway I can migrate my playerdata to a new world?

warm zenith
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Hey does waterfall support Microsofts new chat reporting?

tidal musk
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What is the best proxy to use? (With lowest ram usage)

craggy trout
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If you have 200mb for example you can't run any proxy i mean

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If you have 0 players yes

little terrace
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How can i enable chat verification or "fix" this?

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vital fjord
little terrace
craggy trout
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offline mode?

reef fulcrum
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I mean

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I'd imagine that either they have the option to enforce chat signing set

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or, are just not sending the server data packet or something

craggy trout
reef fulcrum
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probs irrelevant

round timber
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[20:26:04 INFO]: Using standard Java JCE cipher.
[20:26:04 INFO]: Using standard Java compressor.
[20:26:04 INFO]: Enabled Waterfall version git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:fc30291:498
[20:26:04 ERROR]: Exception in thread "main" unacceptable code point '' (0x0) special characters are not allowed
[20:26:04 ERROR]: in "'reader'", position 0
[20:26:04 ERROR]:       at org.yaml.snakeyaml.reader.StreamReader.update(StreamReader.java:211)
...
[20:26:04 ERROR]:       at org.yaml.snakeyaml.Yaml.load(Yaml.java:429)
[20:26:04 ERROR]:       at net.md_5.bungee.module.ModuleManager.load(ModuleManager.java:63)
[20:26:04 ERROR]:       at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCord.start(BungeeCord.java:272)
[20:26:04 ERROR]:       at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCordLauncher.main(BungeeCordLauncher.java:67)
[20:26:04 ERROR]:       at net.md_5.bungee.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:15)```

any idea what's up? this is a test server that was working just fine earlier this week...
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build 500 is also doing this

cunning gorge
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Hi, I have problem with Waterfall. If the player takes damage, he kicks him out of the server (only on version 1.19+)

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My version Waterfall:

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1:20min

cunning gorge
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@unique linden

round timber
cunning gorge
tidal musk
craggy trout
craggy trout
cunning gorge
lilac panther
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@craggy troutHello, i've heard you are advanced in the proxies
I am dealing with one proxy issue: (I have been looking for this problem whole day)
(saw same issues on spigotmc forums but without solution)
Can you help me somehow please?

Look:

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reef fulcrum
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that's how java works

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The entire point of the heap is that it's a block of managed memory

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afaik, the server JRE doesn't really free memory back to the OS all that much

lilac panther
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Before this problem started i was running bungee with -Xms128M -Xmx328M 24/7 without overload crash

reef fulcrum
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I mean, what you're showing there is no an issue

lilac panther
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When i set it to -Xmx328M now, it overload/crash very soon

reef fulcrum
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crashes how?

lilac panther
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out of memory

reef fulcrum
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if heap memory, take a memory dump

lilac panther
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My memory is going lower and lower without releasing
But when i restart the proxy - all that memory is going back

reef fulcrum
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Because that's how java works

lilac panther
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ok (so it's not issue then yea 😄 )

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i will need to restart proxy like every 12hours 😄
depends on the activity of the players

reef fulcrum
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it releasing memory back to the OS is literally not in the hands of the proxy, that's 100% on the JVM and the GC in play, which as said, the server JVM does not release memory back to the OS all that often

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if you're running out of heap memory, there is a JVM flag which can be used to tell the thing to create a heap dump when it OOMs

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-XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemoryError

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then you can load that up into eclipse MAT or whatever

lilac panther
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so there is solution for this yea?
i am not the pro

reef fulcrum
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The jvm is working as expected here

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if you're actually suffering an OOM, you need to work out why, that's a seperate thing entirely to how the JVM works

lilac panther
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But i saw exactly same issue on spigotmc forum:

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reef fulcrum
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if the JVM is running out of heap, either allocate more, or work out why it's running out

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which is literally irrelevant to the fact that the server JVM does not release memory back to the OS as much as the client JVM does

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every join adding 30MB+ to the allocated memory is entirely sus af and probs screams that something is being stupid somewhere

lilac panther
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ok, so it's normal, that the proxy can use +1GB after like 10hours of a few players

reef fulcrum
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but, most of the proxies memory usage if off heap, so it gets hard to say, especially as offheap memory usage is crazy

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No

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I literally never said that that was normal

lilac panther
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oh ok

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idk what to do then 😦

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Using FlameCord now

reef fulcrum
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depends on the type of OOM

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ask them for support

lilac panther
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last refresh

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😦 soon crash

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Thank you so much for help. but I don't know if I can solve it.

reef fulcrum
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I can't help you

craggy trout
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I think that even you have more problems of stability using it with some patches that it haves.

lilac panther
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yea you are right (with flamecord it's getting lower more quickly)

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when i swap to hexagon (for a test)
it was getting lower more slowly 👍

craggy trout
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no

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Waterfall is the most stable fork i think

lilac panther
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ok, ok

reef fulcrum
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ask geyser

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chances are you've got geyser connecting to the wrong thing

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i.e. it needs to go through the proxy, but, 🤷‍♂️

dusk plover
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hello, please tell me how to get player count from another server

reef fulcrum
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oh, yea, I forgot about that specific wording, mb; that option should fix it

lilac panther
# craggy trout Waterfall is the most stable fork i think

Memory is stable now with WaterFall (maybe)

  • is there some way how to support 1.7 clients too?, cuz i am doing PvP server.
    and last question, i am using XCord's iptables but when i try to stresstest antibot it accept so much CPS compare to other protected servers
    It looks like that IP tables are not doing their job or idk :/
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craggy trout
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First of all, we don't support forks and also offline mode is not supported tho

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MCstorm can be handled by a proper firewall, machine and online mode to absorb the impact

lilac panther
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Can it cause low CPU ?

craggy trout
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What exactly?

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With online mode, those "storm" ddos can't do anything

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So yes, cpu usage will be barely afected by that dead traffic

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Also as i said, if you have a proper firewall and good host will handle it cool

lilac panther
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Ok thank you for help 👍 (cuz i've downgraded machine and CPU is pretty garbage there, but for players it's comfortable (the biggest problem was RAM - which seems to be resolved using WaterFall ❤️ )

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i just thought that iptables aren't working 😄 (because I had to go through so much buggy stuff, so I wouldn't be surprised 😄 ..)

vital valve
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How do I let players with different server mod packs join the same hub?

vital valve
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one of the mods for one of the server packs is throwing a incomplete tags when joining the hub server

night vapor
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What do you think, why am I getting such an error when I enter the server with version 1.19.2? my lobby server is version 1.19 with plugins viaversion and viabackwards

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craggy trout
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on backend or proxy

severe geyser
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im having this error:
A task raised an exception. Task: net.md_5.bungee.connection.InitialHandler$6$1@1341462a
java.lang.ClassCastException: java.lang.String cannot be cast to java.util.Collection
at net.md_5.bungee.conf.YamlConfig.getPermissions(YamlConfig.java:321)
at net.md_5.bungee.UserConnection.addGroups(UserConnection.java:550)
at net.md_5.bungee.UserConnection.init(UserConnection.java:162)
at net.md_5.bungee.connection.InitialHandler$6$1.run(InitialHandler.java:597)
at io.netty.util.concurrent.AbstractEventExecutor.runTask(AbstractEventExecutor.java:174)
at io.netty.util.concurrent.AbstractEventExecutor.safeExecute(AbstractEventExecutor.java:167)
at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor.runAllTasks(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:470)
at io.netty.channel.epoll.EpollEventLoop.run(EpollEventLoop.java:391)
at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor$4.run(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:995)
at io.netty.util.internal.ThreadExecutorMap$2.run(ThreadExecutorMap.java:74)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748)

reef fulcrum
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bad config

severe geyser
reef fulcrum
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I literally never said anything to do with plugins

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I said your config was bad

severe geyser
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but

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it worked 1 day ago

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and i didnt changued anything

reef fulcrum
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but, your config is bad

severe geyser
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wait is the permission to block the command /alert

timber sail
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how can I find out which plugin is to blame for this message?

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craggy trout
brave crescent
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hmm is there a way to setup network chat to each other servers?

royal hawk
royal hawk
brave crescent
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hmm i see

mighty yacht
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How can I put the antixray in the nether in version 1.19.1?

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@everyone

craggy trout
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em

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This is not the rigth channel, please go to #paper-help and don't try to tag all.

severe geyser
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How do I make it so that if I turn off one of the servers on my network, the players connected to that mode are redirected to the lobby instead of disconnecting them?

reef fulcrum
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I'd suggest using the search, the answer is pretty much gonna be "use a plugin", and theres been varying suggestions over the past god knows how long

severe geyser
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wdym

errant pivot
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is this normal for 8 days server using this much bandwidth

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bcz players on my server do get ping spikes time to time... no ddos or anything
using ovh with 500mb up/down

craggy trout
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1TB is not that much

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Even 30 online "normaly" eats 1tb in one single month

errant pivot
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20-25 at peak time

craggy trout
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Hm, well in 8 days is not that normal but

errant pivot
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but thats 2tb for 7 days

craggy trout
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Probably you got some day ddosed

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Any ways

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OVH does not have traffic limit?

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As far i know, yes even they're antiddos

valid bear
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Cannot do /server server_name

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whats the permission i need to give

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i am OP

unkempt girder
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OP has no effect on proxy servers

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Iirc permission for it is Bungeecord.command.server

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(also you need Luckperms bungee)

errant pivot
craggy trout
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He can use bungeecord permission system tho (Adding imself as admin)

unkempt girder
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Well yes, but lets be honest, who doesn't use Luckperms nowadays

craggy trout
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I mean, yes and no, there are servers that do not use permission plugins in a proxy, if in backends it seems to me something essential

unkempt girder
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Also I meant it in a way that he needs to have perms via proxy, many people assume that normal LP on backend will work with proxy perms

craggy trout
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I see

chrome rune
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Hi ^^ I don't know if you can help me here ^^ But i have very lot of ping in my waterfall console in localhost with different port i don't know why.
https://hastebin.de/ipenohofum.md

I have activated ping in config to show who ping me

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Or it's probably a plugin to check for exemple player count or another ?

craggy trout
chrome rune
craggy trout
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Is not

chrome rune
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Yes i know

craggy trout
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what

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Is obvuisly you're getting ping-loop on localhost

chrome rune
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Yes it's spam all the time but i search what plugin spam for that every 3 secondes

craggy trout
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No plugin is causing that

upbeat salmon
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Do someone know what does it mean?

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ip forward enabled in waterfall config.yml

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bungeecord enabled in spigot.yml

tulip surgeBOT
upbeat salmon
tulip surgeBOT
craggy trout
upbeat salmon
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I dont have plugins on my servers

craggy trout
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Wait, is that forge?+

upbeat salmon
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Yes, magma

craggy trout
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bruh

vernal plover
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how to fix 1 slot problem in waterfall max player slots sets to 100 but it shows just 1 player slot

delicate phoenix
vernal plover
delicate phoenix
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What is the value of player_limit in your config?

vernal plover
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btw i am using waterfall fork (aegis) :kek:

vernal plover
delicate phoenix
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Then please ask in their support channel, if they have one.

vernal plover
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@delicate phoenix

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i changed to waterfall

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same thing

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player_limit: -1
prevent_proxy_connections: false
listeners:

  • bind_local_address: true
    force_default_server: true
    forced_hosts:
    pvp.md-5.net: pvp
    host: 0.0.0.0:41694
    max_players: 100
    motd: '&1Another Bungee server'
    ping_passthrough: false
    priorities:
    • auth
      proxy_protocol: false
      query_enabled: false
      query_port: 25577
      tab_list: GLOBAL_PING
      tab_size: 60
      enforce_secure_profile: false
      remote_ping_timeout: 5000
      forge_support: false
      remote_ping_cache: -1
      inject_commands: false
      server_connect_timeout: 5000
      log_commands: false
      log_pings: true
      network_compression_threshold: 256
      disabled_commands:
  • disabledcommandhere
    groups:
    md_5:
    • admin
      online_mode: false
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heres config

prisma lotus
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codeblock

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```yml

```

hoary bobcat
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That's your first problem

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I'm guessing you're trying to proxy a 1.16.5 modded server?

upbeat salmon
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No, 1.18.2, but i found Arclight and it works fine

hoary bobcat
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Yeah arclight works

upbeat salmon
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With Lightfall

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It is Waterfall fork

hoary bobcat
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The issue with lightfall though is that it requires client modification?

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meaning you have to install their lightfall client mod iirc

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been a while since i looked at that at all

delicate phoenix
hoary bobcat
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i'd just stay away from using magma / mohist if possible

upbeat salmon
hoary bobcat
# upbeat salmon Why?

their software is fairly unstable, and they do some shady checks on your plugins to replace them with their own modified versions, magma does some of the same but iirc during log4j they had a bit of a different mess to deal with. these are some of the reasons authors of plugins like essentialsx don't support these hybrids due to the changes they do

not sure if any of these things are ongoing still since i don't really use these kinds of software, but spongeforge is the way to go if you still want to run plugins. mohist and magma simply causes more harm than good

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i think essentialsx still has their PSA up too with more information on why you should avoid them

upbeat salmon
hoary bobcat
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arclight is a different story

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arclight afaik is okay

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it's just a waterfall fork that implements modern forge support, only downside with it that i know or have heard of is that it requires you to install their client mod to even connect to the arclight server

craggy trout
hoary bobcat
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just don't use em lmao

craggy trout
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It has poor performance, unsupported plugin developers, instability and bugs. Basically why not make everything separate, mods and plugins on separate servers

hoary bobcat
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it also seems to me like most people value the ability to use spigot plugins over security

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those kinds of software is something most people should stay away from, but i guess they fall into that category "but using plugins on a modern forge server is so cool"

plucky briar
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waterfall current version is for all version of 1.19 right

craggy trout
south tree
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Hi if proxy is far away from the backend server the ping when playing on the backend server will be affected?

buoyant cliff
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Hello, i need some help with running different minecraft server on the same machine, i need to edit the launch script to load the right version of jdk for that server version? And if that's the answer how can i do that?😅

foggy thicket
pseudo tree
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Can anyone help? Have 2 servers setup on waterfall and just added a third yet with the third server i receive this error trying to join 20:31:40 [SEVERE] [unknowndecay] -> UpstreamBridge - encountered exception io.netty.handler.codec.EncoderException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Cannot get ID for packet class net.md_5.bungee.protocol.packet.Chat in phase GAME with direction TO_CLIENT at io.netty.handler.codec.MessageToByteEncoder.write(MessageToByteEncoder.java:125) at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeWrite0(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:717) at

reef fulcrum
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assuming you're using waterfall, that's an outdated version

pseudo tree
reef fulcrum
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yes

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also, most issues like that seem to be down to some issue with plugins and potentially plugins + proto hacks; 🤷‍♂️

pseudo tree
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Defo latest one, from what I’ve seen online viaversion can be an issue

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It’s just odd that it’s affected a new installation

reef fulcrum
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output of /bungee ?

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(or, no / for console)

pseudo tree
reef fulcrum
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o.O

pseudo tree
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What

reef fulcrum
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I mean, pretty sure that the error message should be marginally different

pseudo tree
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So it’s outdated ?

reef fulcrum
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No, that is apparently the latest version, at least, recent enough

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but, that message appears to have been modified, so, no idea

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if 1.19+ client, bad plugin or proto hack issue

pseudo tree
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Hmm ok, im going to start with removing plugins

jade tapir
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this is something that I'm wondering because I don't know if this is a new BungeeCord behavior:

If I connect to BungeeCord, then move myself to another server, then leave the server, the Minecraft client shows the MOTD of the server that I was switched to cat_toes

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So, let's suppose that my server (not BungeeCord!) MOTD is "hello world!!!"

if I switch to that server via BungeeCord, and leave, the MOTD in the list will be "hello world!!!", however, Minecraft automatically refreshes the server list so it is hard to see it, however if you end up getting disconnected in a way that doesn't cause a server list refresh (example: network issues), the server MOTD will persist

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Which is weird, I didn't think that the client accepted server list packets after connecting to a server (in this case, Waterfall)

royal hawk
pseudo tree
tawny ember
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Hello
I have a problem

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i can't use waterfall with mods

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This server has mods that require Forge to be installed on the client. Contact your server admin for more details.

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I have the mod in my mc client

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and in the server

pseudo tree
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Is there anyway to ping a server from to see if it’s connectable

primal lantern
primal lantern
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nope velocity doesnt have support either

reef fulcrum
pseudo tree
reef fulcrum
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reinstalling the proxy isn't going to magically change the fact that something, somewhere, is sending bad packets

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I mean, is this a 1.19 client?

pseudo tree
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Yes

reef fulcrum
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so, you have something inducing a bad packet from somewhere

pseudo tree
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Why would it only affect one 1/3 servers tho

craggy trout
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Then could be your backend?

pseudo tree
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It’s just odd as the server I’ve just added is identical to the other 2 yet receive that error

craggy trout
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Well there is some conflict on that server, seeing what are you saying can't be identical must be some miss

pseudo tree
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Hmm

pseudo tree
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Ok just an update on how stupid i was being, i forgot to forward the port....

brave crescent
tulip surgeBOT
brave crescent
reef fulcrum
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bad config

craggy trout
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[05:23:44] [main/ERROR]: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassCastException: class java.util.LinkedHashMap cannot be cast to class java.lang.String (java.util.LinkedHashMap and java.lang.String are in module java.base of loader 'bootstrap')

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read it zd

fresh wren
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Hey. I want to protect my server against ddos attacks. I use rn tcpshield but the problem is i cant add bedrock support. And now i want to find a way to protect my server without tcpshield. (hide my ip adresse or something like that) does anyone maybe knows how to fix that? I use waterfall and purpur. rn

royal hawk
reef fulcrum
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I mean, it's basic networking, you need somewhere for people to connect to

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Like, TCPShield is the "easy" option, otherwise you get into "rent a cheapo VPS"

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But, your DDoS protection there is gonna be much less vs the protection that TCPShield offers

royal hawk
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UDP is much harder to protect

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Which is why I don’t think there’s a service that offers it at all

unkempt girder
umbral cedar
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Getting an extremely weird issue, where players randomly experiencing timeouts from our servers, and then when trying to re-connect, it's telling them they are already online.

Checking if they are online /find <username>claims they are online on the bungee level, but there not online spigot level.

Any solution for this?

umbral cedar
bitter lark
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#3382: Use the correct write method for ChatChain in ClientChat packet kekw

neon merlin
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Hey! whats the best value for network_compression_threshold? I have a beefy amd ryzen 5900X and 2x1gbit connection. i want the best performance.. i know at the backend / gameservers i should do it -1 but whats about waterfall? is lower better?

devout estuary
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Hello, I connected my servers but when I connect to WaterFall, I have this error, and no message in the console of my lobby : Could not connect to a default or fallback server, please try again later: io.netty.channel.ConnectTimeoutException

neon merlin
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send the config in

opal schooner
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Anyone know how to fix this?

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I cannot join my 1.18.2 backend server.

craggy trout
wanton charm
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Hi I want to make a plugin which make player with the specific permission could join server.
However,I listen PostLoginEvent to check permission and it makes log full of join and disconnect message.
Is there a better way to check a player's permission even if the player is not online?

flat nymph
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<-> InitialHandler - encountered exception: net.md_5.bungee.util.QuietException: Unexpected packet received during login process!

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I've disabled all plugins

reef fulcrum
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See the logs from the server; all that says is that we got an unexpected packet from the server

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generally, make sure that you setup ip forwarding properly, reproduce without plugins on the backend/using a vanilla client

flat nymph
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I've turned on IP Forwarding in config.yml if that's what you mean

valid bear
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how to alter these messages

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?

nimble veldt
flat nymph
flat nymph
broken oyster
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what

craggy trout
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Lastest waterfall?

broken oyster
royal hawk
broken oyster
royal hawk
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No

broken oyster
royal hawk
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Remove plugins till it stops, then you know the perpetrator

broken oyster
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Why could it not be ViaVersion?

royal hawk
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  1. It is a plugin doing something it shouldn’t be doing
  2. Via has their own implementation of these packets so will never access the platform implementation and is thus unable to generate this error
broken oyster
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I think it is maybe because I have LuckPerms Bukkit on my server?

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(no clue how it got there)

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I have LuckPerms bungee also...

royal hawk
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It is a plugin on the proxy causing it

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And it won’t be luckperms either

broken oyster
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Yeah, I have LuckPerms Bukkit on my proxy.

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my plugin list

royal hawk
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Well it ain’t the Via plugins and not LuckPerms
That just leaves a few. Remove them till it stops

broken oyster
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hence why I am saying ViaVersion since the server runs 1.17.1

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so yeah

royal hawk
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What I said isn’t changed by that fact

broken oyster
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Aight Okay.

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So the error is messaging?

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By messaging what do you mean?

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WaterFall --> Paper for example?

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if so then its CommandForward

royal hawk
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A plugin is trying to send a legacy chat message to the client
Those no longer exist in 1.19+
So the unsupported internal call leads to this error.
It is a plugin, I told you how to find it.

broken oyster
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Okay.

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I gotta wait till some people hop off the network.

broken oyster
royal hawk
high widget
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How can I make it if my server goes down instead of disconnecting from the network they get kicked to hub?

broken oyster
high widget
broken oyster
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This is the RAM usage of my proxy server.

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Recently, I deleted a plugin that caused the server to not allow 1.19+ clients to join(more info above)

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This plugin was the Bukkit version of LuckPerms that was misplaced onto the proxy server.

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Could that be the cause of the wave type RAM usage?

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The proxy server should be using 2GB of ram. Those spikes are 6GB of RAM.

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You can notice the spiking stop, I think that was the solution of the problem.

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I need clarification. Is this possible?

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you can notice the slow rise of RAM as well, for no reason.

sharp belfry
high widget
#

What plugin does this?

sharp belfry
#

search for them

broken oyster
royal hawk
#

If it’s 6gb then you can expect it to use 6gb

broken oyster
#

But those spikes are only 2 players online.

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  • I can't explain, but a 1GB of RAM getting used for ~15 minutes.
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every now and then

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those spikes do not resemble that though

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they just resemble it jumping all over the place

broken oyster
royal hawk
#

Yell at your GC. I recommend you to set the XMS to the same as the XMX so you don’t overprovision your system memory
What that chart shows 90% sure isn’t the actual usage on the JVM but the JVM system memory usage

broken oyster
#

What does the XMX value do?

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ah nevermind they are the same

#

oh god this is embarrassing

#

i only just noticed...

#

my server is not running waterfall, but actually bungeecord Sweating

#

oops... yeah I need to migrate to waterfall, I actually convinced myself it was running waterfall oops.

#

hence the performance issues probably

#

right. gonna migrate now.

craggy trout
broken oyster
#

WaterFall is far more efficient.

#

It is the JVM using the RAM actually, pretty sure.

#

Not the actual usage.

#

like my proxy is using 4gb of ram just for 2 players

craggy trout
craggy trout
broken oyster
broken oyster
craggy trout
#

Well, that's exactly what i said

#

If you don't want to use 4gb, use 1 then or just run it without flags lol

broken oyster
#

Would one be enough to run 20 players max?

craggy trout
#

The recommended is 0.5mb per player if you don't have huge plugins, so yes.

broken oyster
#

ok cool

#

I have Plan, LuckPerms and that is it.

#

I do have a plugin though

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It creates custom player servers.

#

Since I was so tired, it took me 1 hour just to notice.

#

That plugin uses Linux's Screen system, meaning that it isn't running in JVM, so I can set WaterFall to one gig, and that plugin can use 4-6GB server.

#

Ok cool, I get it now.

shadow jewel
#

I am trying to connect to my waterfall server and I just get this

unknown.png
#

I set up this server like 15 mins ago and am new to waterfall (but not minecraft server hosting) so i would appreciate some help

reef fulcrum
#

generally means firewall or wrong IP, etc

shadow jewel
#

what about the firewall since i know the IP is correct

#

would that a be a server side firewall or local on my pc

reef fulcrum
#

depends on your setup, etc

#

all I can tell you is that whatever address you tried to connect to, something there along the way rejected the connection

shadow jewel
#

ok, it shouldn't be anything to do with the config tho, correct?

reef fulcrum
#

No, you've not even got the connection to waterfall established

shadow jewel
#

got it

#

thats especially strange since its a local connection

reef fulcrum
#

depends on what "local" is

#

make sure that you're not using a public IP address to connect to the same machine as you're hosting from, or another machine on the network, not all routers like that

shadow jewel
#

ok, well i am using private ip address to connect to a server on the same network as my pc

#

well, thank you for trying to help, i understand there isn't really much you can do for me here

#

this is interesting, if i open another minecraft server instance on the same server i am able to connect but then when i try to connect to it through waterfall, it just doesn't work

reef fulcrum
#

er

#

do note that waterfall uses a different port by default

#

25575 or something

#

oh, 25577

#

You probably wanna make sure that you either use that port, or, ideally, set waterfall to listen on 25565

shadow jewel
#

oh

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that is probably what i was missing

#

i appreciate it, thank you for the help even though it was such a stupid thing like a port number

night vapor
#

When I try to log in with versions 1.19.1 and 1.19.2, I get such an error, all my players have such a "Waterfall#502" version installed, what am I doing wrong?

unknown.png
reef fulcrum
#

See logs, etc

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Make sure that plugins are uodated

#

All we can see is that you where basicslly kicked because of some issue between the proxy and the backend

night vapor
#

It gives such an error in the console, I just realized, do you know if it will be fixed when I add this, do you know that I will turn my server off and on again.

unknown.png
reef fulcrum
#

Placing bets on outdated plugins

hoary bobcat
#

also skinrestorer 💀

night vapor
#

Do you have any suggestions CryingCat

hoary bobcat
#

i mean probably kill of skinrestorer?

#

it likes to break things

reef fulcrum
#

Update your plugins.

hoary bobcat
#

i also question the need for a two factor auth system on a server? but that's just me

reef fulcrum
#

I'm placing bets on the pack thing as the name sounds familiar

#

Otherwise, like, glhf

hoary bobcat
#

i mean, yeah the BungeePackFix's purpose is so that you don't have to redownload resource packs iirc?

#

now addresslimit is quite useless

night vapor
#

I updated the bungeepackfix plugin and it's fixed, thanks for your help, I'll take your suggestions into account

#

❤️

craggy trout
#

don't use plugins on proxy pepeBye

kind holly
reef fulcrum
#

There's a veeeery short list of things which is best to do on the proxy vs individual servers

#

Stuff on the proxy messing with specific things alsk generally tends to be stupendously more fragile

sly sun
#

hello sir, i am attempting to link my pixelmon 1.12.2 server moistmc to my waterfall bungee but seem to fall into a error 25 bytes extra whilst etc.

marble kelpBOT
#

on switch to that server or when you join it as the first server?

sly sun
#

switch

marble kelpBOT
#

some mods have issues with that, try joining the server as the first one or running the mod pack on your lobby too

sly sun
#

would that not stop my spigot players from joining the lobby?

marble kelpBOT
#

well yes, you would need to have them join a different one or make the mods optional (no idea if forge can easily do that, technically it's possible)

sly sun
#

its tough, iv seen/been on a good few networks that have the combo just not sure how

marble kelpBOT
#

could also have two lobbies, one for modded and one for normal players

#

also afaik it depends on the mods in the mod pack if switching works or not

#

and there are some tricks about resending stuff to the server/client

sly sun
#

only 7 mods haha

royal hawk
#

It’s a long shot

sly sun
#

Il give it a shot. Its just the base 1.12.2 pixelmon network modpack. 7 mods which BOP is one

tidal musk
#

Hey

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What can i do to prevent UUID Spoofing?

#

Im afraid of my server getting griefed 😦

reef fulcrum
#

outside of insecure backends, in which case, properly configured firewall or at least bungeeguard, literally hasn't been a thing for years

#

(outside of people who intentionally configure their servers in insecure manners)

tidal musk
royal hawk
sharp belfry
#

uuid spoofing isnt real

royal hawk
hoary bobcat
hoary bobcat
#

in regards to hosting a modded / vanilla combined hub for your players @sly sun what you can do is either run SpongeVanilla, or run Paper but add this to your startup arguments -Dpaper.disableChannelLimit=true this is because forge usually have a lot of custom channels which will eventually become a problem for you when it comes to joining vanilla servers.

primal lantern
#

try loading waterfall with the flag and give the error then

tidal musk
#

ah will do.

tidal musk
primal lantern
#

:(

tidal musk
#

Fixed it.

primal lantern
late nebula
#

disconnected with: Could not connect to a default or fallback server, please try again later:

#

help pls

reef fulcrum
#

Not enough info, see the full error

faint elk
#

Why doesn't the documentation list permissions?

#

What's the permission for /send current?

reef fulcrum
#

Because we just refer people to the bungeecord documentation

faint elk
reef fulcrum
#

yes

faint elk
#

Seems like /send current is new? Or I just never knew about it before

#

Ugh, there are no subpermissions for /send, how stupid

reef fulcrum
#

the built in commands are pretty basic

#

part of what I think the hope is that people use plugins to replace the servers commands with competent replacements

faint elk
#

I'm not familiar with any plugins that do /send but I haven't really looked either. Just not a fan of adding more plugins to accomplish things that should be built in

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Obviously that's not Paper team's fault

reef fulcrum
#

Thing is that everything in bungee is basic

tough vale
reef fulcrum
#

Like, theres no sane permission system, you either have a string or you don't

#

I mean, the API literally just returns json strings everywhere

late nebula
reef fulcrum
#

I mean that's not enough info for anybody to help with

hoary bobcat
vapid raven
#

Hello everyone, how to hide this flood in console?

unknown.png
severe moon
#

hello, i hope that someone could help me :

# 
io.netty.handler.codec.EncoderException: java.lang.NullPointerException
        at io.netty.handler.codec.MessageToByteEncoder.write(MessageToByteEncoder.java:125) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeWrite0(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:717) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeWriteAndFlush(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:764) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext$WriteTask.run(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:1071) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at io.netty.util.concurrent.AbstractEventExecutor.runTask(AbstractEventExecutor.java:174) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at io.netty.util.concurrent.AbstractEventExecutor.safeExecute(AbstractEventExecutor.java:167) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor.runAllTasks(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:470) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at io.netty.channel.epoll.EpollEventLoop.run(EpollEventLoop.java:391) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor$4.run(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:995) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at io.netty.util.internal.ThreadExecutorMap$2.run(ThreadExecutorMap.java:74) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748) ~[?:1.8.0_312]
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
        at net.md_5.bungee.protocol.DefinedPacket.writeString(DefinedPacket.java:32) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at net.md_5.bungee.protocol.DefinedPacket.writeString(DefinedPacket.java:27) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at net.md_5.bungee.protocol.packet.Title.write(Title.java:70) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at net.md_5.bungee.protocol.MinecraftEncoder.encode(MinecraftEncoder.java:24) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at net.md_5.bungee.protocol.MinecraftEncoder.encode(MinecraftEncoder.java:9) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        at io.netty.handler.codec.MessageToByteEncoder.write(MessageToByteEncoder.java:107) ~[bungeecord.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:9c9bc55:502]
        ... 10 more
[05:12:40 INFO]: [Hemef] disconnected with: EncoderException : java.lang.NullPointerException @ io.netty.handler.codec.MessageToByteEncoder:125```
#

i cant connect on my server sometimes and this occur

reef fulcrum
#

reproduce without plugins

#

something apparently tried to send a bad title packet

vernal plover
#

how to fix this?

vernal plover
#

Hellow anyone? cat_what

reef fulcrum
#

You have malware on your server

#

delete ALL jars and reinstall them

fair dagger
# 
250000018c0000ff06136d696e656372```
#

Removing all plugins and initializing user data results in this error

reef fulcrum
#

make sure that you reproduced without plugins on both the proxy and the server

#

see the server logs, all we can see is that waterfall got a packet it wasn't expecting

fair dagger
reef fulcrum
#

I don't support offline mode

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and, that doesn't give anything useful, outside of the fact that that ain't without plugins

fair dagger
reef fulcrum
#

Then shows logs without plugins

fair dagger
reef fulcrum
#

would need full logs

fair dagger
tulip surgeBOT
reef fulcrum
#

/127.0.0.1:56283 lost connection: If you wish to use IP forwarding, please enable it in your BungeeCord config as well!

fair dagger
#

Well, it's fixed because I touched it many times.
Sorry

severe moon
reef fulcrum
#

yes

severe moon
#

I noticed that it occur for 1.18 1.19 but not for lower versions

reef fulcrum
#

Because the code in which that is being thrown only runs for 1.17+

#

something is causing a bad Title packet to be sent

#

That thing can literally only be something running on the proxy

severe moon
#

okok ty I'll check and let u know

kindred umbra
#

Would 1.5.2 player be actually able to join the proxy? I would like to have some modpack servers running alongside

serene tide
#

No, Waterfall doesn't support 1.5.2.

umbral owl
#

Hello, I have this error every time a player that is on 1.19 joins the server
18:55:00 [WARNING] [/ip:port] <-> InitialHandler - could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(7) + length(1) exceeds writerIndex(7): PooledSlicedByteBuf(ridx: 7, widx: 7, cap: 7/7, unwrapped: PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 239, widx: 239, cap: 2048))

Ive searched this error in the past on waterfall help to see if someone had the same problem, unfortunately that was true and the solution was to check the plugins, in this case I disabled every single plugin on my server and the issue still persists. I even enabled the debug flag -Dwaterfall.packet-decode-logging=true and still I couldnt get anything to know about the issue, can someone help me? It would be appreciated. Thanks

reef fulcrum
#

All we can see is that something sent a packet which the proxy wasn't happy with

#

reproduce without plugins on the proxy and the server

#

make sure that the proxy is updated

umbral owl
subtle sundial
#

What placeholder can I use to get players count on each server? I want it to use in server motd

umbral owl
#

%bungee_your-specific-server% for a specific server %bungee_total% for globally

subtle sundial
umbral owl
#

i think that depends more on the plugin

umbral owl
north urchin
# umbral owl please can someone help me with this? is necessary

We have similar errors for past 2 days but we are getting hit by bots in waves. That what ovh says but they do nothing in this matter...
For some time now we getting this

[20:31:33 WARN] [io.netty.channel.DefaultChannelPipeline]: An exceptionCaught() event was fired, and it reached at the tail of the pipeline. It usually means the last handler in the pipeline did not handle the exception.
io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: accept(..) failed: Too many open files

Generally its weird cuz we didn't change anything past week, vps or bungee side and those timeouts are really bad for our network :/

humble thistle
#

Hi how can i solve this?

lost river
raven forge
#

hey so I wanted to know how can I make it so when a player joins it gets put in the lobby / authentication server even tho they where in another server?

hearty sage
#

hello

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i don’t have permission for /server

#

but i am an op

calm ether
#

server op has nothing to do with proxy permissions

hearty sage
#

so what do i do?

calm ether
#

You have to use a permission plugin on proxy

hearty sage
#

i have luckperms

calm ether
#

Are you using something like LuckPerms on your server ?

hearty sage
#

yes

calm ether
#

ok so install and configure it on your proxy as well

hearty sage
#

yes i have it there

calm ether
#

Ok so nothing more to do

#

Just be aware that the op thing is not a proxy thing

#

It only applies to server things

quick marsh
#

Hi, is the latest version of Waterfall compatible with Minecraft 1.18.2?

#

I get the error message Kicked whilst connecting to Survival: This server has mods that require Forge to be installed on the client. Contact your server admin for more details and I have Forge on both the server and the client and the option of Forge_support option set to true. Can you help me? Thanks

craggy trout
craggy trout
quick marsh
craggy trout
#

use a fork of waterfall wich depends on a mod to work

quick marsh
craggy trout
#

ligthfall

quick marsh
wise patio
#

Where i can set to connect players to specific server when players server go down?

craggy trout
rigid jackal
#

What is Waterfall?

sharp belfry
rigid jackal
#

Ok thanks

royal plover
#

Hi there, i recently updated my Waterfull too waterfall-1.19-500.jar and i have the config setup correctly. I can provide info with retracted details if required. Connection is from Waterfall (docker java 8, 17 was tested) -> backend(ptero connection) -> 1.8.8 (docker java 11) server (i know it's not supported for support) and i believe it is possible that Waterfall is the fault. I don't have proof but it's a possibility.

java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to access address of buffer
    at io.netty.channel.epoll.Native.read(Native Method) ~[patched.jar:git-PaperSpigot-"4c7641d"]
    at io.netty.channel.epoll.EpollSocketChannel$EpollSocketUnsafe.doReadBytes(EpollSocketChannel.java:678) [patched.jar:git-PaperSpigot-"4c7641d"]
    at io.netty.channel.epoll.EpollSocketChannel$EpollSocketUnsafe.epollInReady(EpollSocketChannel.java:714) [patched.jar:git-PaperSpigot-"4c7641d"]
    at io.netty.channel.epoll.EpollSocketChannel$EpollSocketUnsafe$3.run(EpollSocketChannel.java:755) [patched.jar:git-PaperSpigot-"4c7641d"]
    at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor.runAllTasks(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:380) [patched.jar:git-PaperSpigot-"4c7641d"]
    at io.netty.channel.epoll.EpollEventLoop.run(EpollEventLoop.java:268) [patched.jar:git-PaperSpigot-"4c7641d"]
    at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor$2.run(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:116) [patched.jar:git-PaperSpigot-"4c7641d"]
    at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:829) [?:?]
``` and this is the error that spams on my 1.8.8 server.

FIXED: go into server.properties and turn ``use-native-transport=true`` to false
tidal musk
#

Disable native epoll on the 1.8 server, should be in server.properties iirc

royal hawk
#

^

#

There’s also a launch flag afaik to do that

royal plover
#

use-native-transport=true -> false?

#

skipptYay you guys are legends! i would never had suspected this!

craggy trout
#

Performance goes really down

craggy trout
tidal musk
#

turning off native epoll is just a lot simpler to do :P

#

(and most people probably won't notice the performance difference because they're not at a large scale)

craggy trout
#

Some people cares about they're server performance

royal plover
reef fulcrum
#

It's not a real fix, it's just a mitigation which comes with a performance hit

craggy trout
hot hinge
#

Hello everyone, does anyone know if there are any plugins or configuration that improve Waterfall performance? Sometimes I get stuck on the loading screen, other times it seems like my connection is corrupted and the map doesn't load and it's only resolved when I reconnect to the server

tidal musk
#

Can anyone help?
When I try to connect to my proxy, It just says the world is loading, And then I eventually get kicked, Meaning I cannot connect to my server D:

royal plover
tidal musk
#

ReadTimeoutException: Null
I keep getting this/

craggy trout
royal plover
#

Think is though, Featherboard doesn't work with Java 8 anymore. it's Java 11 or higher now.

#

at least that's what the console said

#

[FeatherBoard] You are using Java 16.0.2 on a Spigot version below 1.16.5. Either update to Spigot 1.16.5 or use Java 15.

craggy trout
#

You can use my plugin if you want

#

Is free, open source, helly better and optimizied than fb

odd knot
#

why can't I join with 1.19.2 even when I downloaded the newest version?

tidal musk
#

what error does it give you

odd knot
#

ok never mind i was stupid and forgot to add viaversion to the server

thick marsh
#

is there a way to only allow going to one server with the /server command, ex. the lobby.

reef fulcrum
#

"yes"

#

if the server is set to restricted in the config, then you need the perm for jumping to it with /server

thick marsh
#

nvm i understand but then you could go to any server from that one you have perms on?

reef fulcrum
#

If you set every other server to restricted, the only server you'd be able to jump to with the server command, is the one you didn't restrict, unless you gave them perms for those servers

#

Plugins will be able to still let people jump between servers

#

If you want anything more convoluted, you'd need plugins

thick marsh
#

oh i see

ocean ermine
#

Hi, What is the difference between waterfall and velocity? And which one would you recommend I use?

surreal stream
#

read that to understand what's better for you

tidal musk
#

Placeholder for Alive players??

hybrid bay
#

hey am having trouble java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 'java.lang.String[][] net.md_5.bungee.protocol.packet.PlayerListItem$Item.getProperties()' at me.neznamy.tab.platforms.bungeecord.BungeePacketBuilder.readPlayerInfo(BungeePacketBuilder.java:120) ~[?:?] at me.neznamy.tab.shared.FeatureManagerImpl.onPacketPlayOutPlayerInfo(FeatureManagerImpl.java:93) ~[?:?] at me.neznamy.tab.platforms.bungeecord.BungeePipelineInjector$BungeeChannelDuplexHandler.write(BungeePipelineInjector.java:69) ~[?:?] at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeWrite0(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:717) ~[server.jar:git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:5c1e956:504]

📎 message.txt
tulip surgeBOT
meager dagger
#

[upd: solved ✅ ]

Hello guys!

I'm running a simple waterfall-proxy on the DigitalOcean droplet, and it suddenly just stop working. The problem is that I do not know why and can't find any logs.

I'm running waterfall.jar through the nohup, and also have written a script in /etc/init/ to launch my start_script on system load (after reboot).

Could someone guide me or give any advice on how to study the problem and find any solution or answers why the hell the app is just "stopping".

I have a full access to ubuntu machine, so can try to search for any logs you may suggest.

The only thing that is known, the "monitoring charts" that provides DO: https://ibb.co/RDC4fhb
So we see there a spikes at 9:30: memory goes down - I guess it's where the waterfall app is crashed, and the cpu load goes up - I guess it is also somehow related to that crash 🙂

meager dagger
meager dagger
meager dagger
#

[upd: __un__solved ❌ ]

Ok, I guess I've fixed that.
But there is one thing:

**What is recommended memory allocation for the waterfall? **

Like, in the docs there are -Xms512M -Xmx512M setup in the example. But is there any suggestions on how can I calculate the right amount for me?

I have a "main" waterfall server hosted on my own serve machine, with 512Mb or 1Gb ram allocated. Not sure. And there are no problems with it.

But also, I have a "proxy" waterfall, to allow to connect players from different geo-region (just take that fact): so I've hosted my "proxy"-waterfall on the DigitalOcean droplet with only 512mb memory. Where I set up the -Xms256M -Xmx256M. Is that enough?

|| the case described above, when I have process killed because out of memory, there was -Xms256M -Xmx320M and in the console of my droplet there are only 466mb RAM available, so I guess that's why the app was killed ||

craggy trout
craggy trout
#

I think you just need to update it because the method has been updated @hybrid bay

#

Same as skins plugins and that stuff, generaly i don't even recommend the usage of those type of plugins on the proxy.

delicate phoenix
#

It works if let's say you're trying to bypass some short of firewall, but otherwise not worth the hassle in my opinion.

final imp
#

Hi, im not the dev on my team but my dev isnt here to help me with this issue, so i am trying to fix it for him

#

Does anyone know how to attach my restart script to bungee?

#

i start the server using ./start.sh but it crashes when i leave the screen on our sever (using tmux)

#

@ me when you respond please!

#

that is the error

sharp belfry
delicate phoenix
#

The general idea is that you should start the process in the screen, and then attach/deattach to/from it when needed.

final imp
craggy trout
final imp
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invalid characters was causing it to crash

craggy trout
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wow

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nice stacktrace tho

final imp
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haha

stone thicket
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Hey guys, I don't know if it is possible, I've seen some issues with the package handling on waterfall servers with Forge on 1.16.5. Just as a last resort....
Does anyone know if there is a way????

royal hawk
stone thicket
vale raptor
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Hello everyone

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Is there a way to bypass "You are already connected to this Server"?

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I'm trying to force "/server lobby" even though the player is already connected to it

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I'm doing that to fake player leave/join events without having to kick the player off the server

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I know this is possible by just temporarily sending the player to a different server, but It won't be ideal

reef fulcrum
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without editing the software, no

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that's before you get into the potential issues that that would induce due to the order that connections occur

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i.e. you connect to the new server before you dc the old one

vale raptor
# reef fulcrum without editing the software, no

actually my initial idea was writing a plugin or a middleware to ensure that the player won't actually disconnect, but I realized that this already exist (bungeecord, waterfall). unfortunately I've faced that issue and I'm exploring solutions

reef fulcrum
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I mean

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what exactly are you trying to do

vale raptor
reef fulcrum
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Please stop mentioning

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But, why do you want those events to fire?

vale raptor
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sorry

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I'm plying with UUID switching, what I'm trying to achieve is the ability of having multiple player profiles per account within a server. Switching a player UUID can only be done on player join event.

reef fulcrum
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Well, if you wanna change UUID you'll either need to make the server do that, or reconnect

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You can switch UUIDs in play using the paper API iirc

vale raptor
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You can't just fake the UUID of a player in-game, you'll need to "re-render" that player and this impossible without bugs

vale raptor
reef fulcrum
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paper lets you set a players game profile in play

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it will cause the player to respawn

vale raptor
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that's interesting, I'll try that

reef fulcrum
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afaik it should support switching the UUID, you will however need to deal with plugins

vale raptor
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my concern is mainly about how plugins would handle that

reef fulcrum
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or, wait, maybe not, I don't think it deals with the UUID internally

vale raptor
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there is a UUID switcher that works with reflection

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as I said before, it only happens when the player joins the server

vale raptor
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I think I'll make a packet manipulator plugin that intercept "player kick" packets with the reason "reconnect" and prevent the player from receiving these packets and simulating (or replying) "player join" packets while showing him a loading screen

stone thicket
# royal hawk Either use lightfall and their client mod or try velocity with ambassador

Ok, I literally spent the day configuring a forge server with Lightfall, pretty interesting stuff, learned a lot. I'm not kidding I spent over 8 hours just tinkering and playing with the configs. I only got it to work without any mods installed but the Lightfall client. It might be one of the mods, gotta review them individually, but it's a PIA since it's mostly Better Minecraft (>150 mods + their dependencies ect.)
I can't find Ambassador anywhere, since it's such a common word, no relevant results have popped in my searches, any recommendations.

BTW the issue Lightfall it's giving me is that it kicks me out of the server saying that it shut down and it can't connect with the fallback server...

It's been over 8 hours......

reef fulcrum
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for ambassador, search in the velocity channels, there should be a link in there somewhere, maybe more so the dev one

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outside of that, generally a huge level of "glhf", mods and proxies, especially bungee based proxies, are generally asking for some issues due to how they work, there are sometimes ways to marginally improve the situation but I cant comment too much on forks

royal hawk
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I’m assuming this bug exists in lightfall because brigadier isn’t capsulated

proper walrus
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actually i setuped a bungeecord network
i have one proxy one hub and survival
so when i am joining the server its showing
this

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showing this

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and the ip is everything correct

craggy trout
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For me seems a missconfig

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Like ip or port/firewall or just your backend is unaccesible

proper walrus
craggy trout
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Dealing with it?

proper walrus
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ye i need the fix

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@craggy trout so wht is the fix ??

craggy trout
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I said you the possible stacktraces, deal with them.

proper walrus
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thats why i came in in help section

craggy trout
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I mean, i told you the stacktraces

proper walrus
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stacktraces?

reef fulcrum
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Look at your log file

proper walrus
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K

proper walrus
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It shows the samething bro

reef fulcrum
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it generally shows that and the actual error

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if theres nothing more there I can't help you

stone thicket
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@royal hawk @reef fulcrum
Thanks for all the help, still playing with the configs. As of now, I'm able to set it up without any mods. At least it connects to 1 server using the Lightfall port. It seems that it's not "seeing" the second server. It should be a matter of "config playing" and log file digging...
I'll keep you posted. It's been a fun project so far!!!

royal hawk
stone thicket
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Is there a different command to move from server to server usually in bungee its just /server but its not giving me anything. Maybe Ive got it set up and im not using the right command...
that would be so funny :/

stone thicket
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BTW ITS WORKING!!!!!!!
Now starts the gruesome task of testing Mod by mod until it works...

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I've got 2 Forge 1.16.5 (running Lightfall) connected to an Arclight Server and I'm able to switch between servers with /server. This has been quite the journey

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Thanks everyone!

fickle flare
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only included a small section of the log but there were probably a couple million of those

stone thicket
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And I claimed victory waay too soon...

silk matrix
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Where can I download Waterfall 1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT?

silk matrix
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which one supports 1.19.1?

tough vale
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use .2

shadow lotus
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Is their a way I can get ride of this? Its in the plugin folder but get an error when trying to use it

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I use Advancedban but that doesnt seem to be taking over

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Gives me this error no matter what I do!

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reef fulcrum
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See the full logs

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Something is probably failing to load properly or something

solar sable
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Hellow,
Is it possible to hide the number of players of a specific server in the multiplayer menu?
I would like this because I have a dev server connected to my bungee network and the players see that there is a player that they do not see :/

unknown.png
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In fact it's weird, my admin account is hidden but when I connect a double account with player permission it is visible, but I don't know what is the action to do to hide it too (I suppose a permission?)

reef fulcrum
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don't use ping passthrough if that's what you're using

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otherwise, as with anything, "use a plugin"

solar sable
reef fulcrum
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ping passthrough

solar sable
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it is in false

reef fulcrum
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if you want more control over what shows up in there you'd need a plugin

solar sable
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But it doesn't really explain why my Admin account is properly hidden from him when I don't seem to have anything special with it x)

reef fulcrum
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There is no hiding of that stuff outside of the clients setting

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waterfall either passes the ping request to a server, if ping passthrough is enabled, or answers the ping response itself using info from the proxy

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if you wanna adjust that stuff, you'd need a plugin

solar sable
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Mhh okay

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A plugin type "Bungeemotd"?

reef fulcrum
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You need a plugin that would control the ping request, the motd thing is part of that

humble heath
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One message removed from a suspended account.

tidal musk
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yes

humble heath
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One message removed from a suspended account.

barren wind
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which java ver should i use for my proxy server

reef fulcrum
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I mean, waterfall supports 8+, I recommend using the latest lts however

humble heath
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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

unkempt girder
humble heath
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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

unkempt girder
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And also remove reconnect module or how is it called

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Otherwise it will be sending players to their last server

humble heath
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One message removed from a suspended account.

humble heath
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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

brisk cedar
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Good evening.
I have a small problem with anti-cheat in the kernel.
I would like to ask professionals how to cut it out or turn it off completely, since I don’t really understand Java
(Version 1.12.2 or 1.17.1)

Добрый вечер.
У меня возникла небольшая проблема, связанная с античитом в ядре.
Я хотел бы узнать у профессионалов как его можно вырезать или полностью отключить, так как не особо разбираюсь в Java
(Версия 1.12.2 или 1.17.1)

reef fulcrum
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  1. 1.12 and 1.17 are no longer supported by us, assuming you mean the actual server software
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  1. if you're talking about the server, wrong channel (not that you'll get support anyways)
unkempt girder
obtuse shadow
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Is there any option in bungeecord or waterfall config to kick players to lobby if spigot instance get down instead of full kick from proxy?

grim falcon
humble heath
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One message removed from a suspended account.

warped sorrel
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Hey,
I'm running a proxy on minehut which redirects players on a server hosted somewhere else. I've set the online-mode for the proxy to true while for the spigot server to false. I've also added BungeeGuard. However, I noticed cracked accounts are able to join which I don't like. I can see that they were joining via the proxy directly which shouldn't be possible as I enabled online-mode. They always got a dot infront of their name (so it's like ".NAME123"). I tried to reproduce it with TLauncher but it doesn't work for me so I'm wondering how they're doing it.

reef fulcrum
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That's geyser

warped sorrel
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What do you mean?

tidal musk
warped sorrel
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Oh, is it enabled by default? Cause I haven't set it up or installed anything.

tidal musk
warped sorrel
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I see, guess it's the best to contact them directly and ask if it's possible to disable this feature. Thanks for your help! 🙂

placid elm
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really they force geyser?

cold rune
#

Dumb question, can waterfall forward to a mc server on our domain or does it need a static IP?

placid elm
cold rune
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Do I need to configure it a special way or can I just put billis.tk as the IP for one of the Minecraft servers? Also are there any issues running the proxy on a separate box from client/server?

sharp belfry
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you can put a domain as long as it resolves to the correct IP iirc

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and yes you can run a proxy separately

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just make sure you secure the backends and configure your firewalls properly

tidal musk
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I want to join the server from one Launcher but it does not join the server and it gives warning in console: [15:02:42 WARN]: [/] <-> InitialHandler - overflow in packet detected! A string was longer than allowed. For more information, launch Waterfall with -Dwaterfall.packet-decode-logging=true

What should I do?

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Login is provided from TLauncher, but when I enter from another Launcher, it gives a warning on the console

sharp belfry
gleaming hemlock
#

One question, can I connect a FORGE server to waterfall?

lost river
craggy trout
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xd moment, mojang want's to keep offline mode

snow sky
craggy trout
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yes

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Definitly yes, they can remove it when they want.

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If they don't remove it is because it is profitable, many people start in offline mode and end up buying the game. Pure and hard marketing that is not supported by people who create external software is totally different

snow sky
# craggy trout yes

thats like saying Apple doesnt release the same iPhones every year. Yes they do.

craggy trout
sharp belfry
placid elm
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will waterfall work with forge or should I move to velocity?

gleaming hemlock
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help pls

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reef fulcrum
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delete the modules folder and try again, otherwise generally work out what's borkin them

gleaming hemlock
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the same

craggy trout
craggy trout
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Cool

reef fulcrum
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Oh, I see

reef fulcrum
gleaming hemlock
gleaming hemlock
reef fulcrum
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You're literally using a 2 year old build of waterfall

paper cloak
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this is a new waterfall setup/network, not sure if this is waterfall issue or paper/server issue, but i can connect to the default/lobby server fine but when i try to connect to the other 2 servers iv setup, i get this error message

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reef fulcrum
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99.999% of issues like that is often down to plugins, many times on the proxy, mangling packets

craggy trout
tulip surgeBOT
tidal musk
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let's not

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online-mode tends to work as a pretty decent antibot though

night vapor
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I live in Turkey, minecraft in my country 500 currency in my country, no one can buy original due to economic problems

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Bots are all germany location how can i close the logins from germany?

tidal musk
craggy trout
reef fulcrum
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ofc

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But, like

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You can't open the gates yourself and magically expect people will care

fast wing
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because you didnt go through minecraft authenithecation servers?

craggy trout
fast wing
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i remember notch allowed you to "pirate" the game since it usually lead to people purchasing the game

reef fulcrum
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Piracy is considered bad

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You as an individual can do whatever you want

rare terrace
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Is it possible to setup a waterfall network as a server within velocity, im trying to do sharding things.

reef fulcrum
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"yes"

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  1. such a setup is generally dumb
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  1. Waterfall, and bungee, don't support player info forwarding on incoming connections, so you'll need to deal with IP/UUID stuff yourself
craggy trout
rare terrace
craggy trout
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Yes, you can use RedisBungee for example to split your proxy into multiple instances

rare terrace
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Can waterfall run as a waterfall server

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Its for sharding

craggy trout
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Bruh

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I think is a dumb idea

rare terrace
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I'm hacking together a sketchy sharding solution

rare terrace
obtuse shadow
night vapor
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I'm getting an error like this, what do you suggest I do?

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worthy crater
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hi, i have a problem with my proxy. sometimes waterfall start using 2000% of cpu with no reason
https://spark.lucko.me/reXnT70k87

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spark

spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies.

craggy trout
craggy trout
craggy trout
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I feel that a ddos related to he's minecraft layer can reach that without protection or offline mode

worthy crater
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i think was a plugin

craggy trout
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holy moly XD

worthy crater
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yes

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i got a 25k lines crash dump

halcyon gate
#

How can I optimize my waterfall server to handle more than 50 players in 2 cores

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Cuz it's lagging

reef fulcrum
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there isn't any real "optimisation" options available

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You can disable things like entity metadata rewriting, but, for the most part, it's just copying data around

gritty sigil
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when I create a server and want to connect to the server, the following error comes up and I get timed out. only happens when I start the server for the first time. Does anyone know what could be the reason? or is it due to waterfall at all? https://pastebin.com/raw/XcBGUVci

reef fulcrum
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error s like that are generally down to things screwing with the protocol, etc

gritty sigil
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with which protocol?

reef fulcrum
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the minecraft protocol

gritty sigil
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so it's not because of waterfall?

reef fulcrum
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Basically, you entered an illegal state to the proxy

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as many times as I've seen that, I've never been able to reproduce it in waterfall, or work out how somebody could trigger it

gritty sigil
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do you have any ideas how to fix it?

reef fulcrum
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generally it's induced by plugins messing with internals

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outside of "reproduce without plugins", no

gritty sigil
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okay i'll take a look at this. thanks

thick marsh
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one of my servers gets spammed with this error

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how can i stop it

reef fulcrum
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nothing to do with waterfall

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and it tells you what plugin is borked

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(make sure that WG is installed, otherwise, remove it and find something that's maintained or whatever)

primal hearth
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my waterfall uses more than 1G ram for 5 players 😶

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is it normal ?😶

reef fulcrum
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Its java, it uses as much ram as you tell it to use, and then its own memory for java itself, etc

primal hearth
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aha ok thank you

frail vessel
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How do i set the default server?

craggy trout
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By default already one is seted i think, just replace it?

oblique yew
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Hello! When setting up the waterfall, it is only used for the bungee server folder while the other servers use regular paper jars right?

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If this isn't the case then I may have messed something up with EssentialsX UUID because of that or some other waterfall issue

reef fulcrum
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Make sure that you read the bungee install guide, primarily, making sure that you setup ip forwarding

oblique yew
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Will check rn

oblique yew
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Not sure if there is something else I'm somehow missing

reef fulcrum
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make sure that the proxy is in online mode?

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otherwise, depends what's wrong

oblique yew
reef fulcrum
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in config.yml

oblique yew
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As far as I see, it's all setup

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The config is only in the bungee folder which is the one that has the waterfall.jar

the other folders have paper.jar's

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reef fulcrum
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You'd need to define what's wrong

barren slate
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How fix this is? I want to go to the server with mods from the vanilla lobby. I installed forge and the desired mod on my client. But it still doesn't connect me...

unknown.png
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I can go with mods on a vanilla server. So why can't I switch from vanilla to mods? What kind of nonsense? On the client, I need to eat everything.

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Let's take a plugin as an example ViaVersion. If I put it on my lobby, then this server can be accessed from any version, even 1.8. But, for example, I will make a survival mode, where there will be an entrance only from version 1.19.2, then those who logged in from 1.8 will not be able to enter it. That is, for this they will need to install version 1.19.2 and only then will they be able to log in.

And with mods, I assumed a similar principle. That is, those who installed Forge and mods on the client will be able to enter, and those who do not, respectively, will not be able to.

reef fulcrum
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1.13 forge made changes which are not trivial to support for proxies, especially if you wanna be able to switch servers

barren slate
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Is this problem on all proxy cores? Or maybe somehow fixed for example on an velocity?

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Do I understand correctly, if I use a server with mods on version 1.13 and below on an waterfall, will the connection between servers work?

marble kelpBOT
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you want modded servers below 1.13, not on 1.13

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also tbh just don't try to make them switch between servers (or at least not between servers that don't have the mod pack and have it) and you should be fine-ish

reef fulcrum
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Yes, it's a problem on all proxies, forge made changes which brokes with how proxies work

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theres a few forks of the mainline proxies which have client mods which try to hack back in support

craggy trout
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It depends on a mod to work, but that's all if you want to use modern forge

heavy needle
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Hello, i have some problems connecting to a spongeforge server

reef fulcrum
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that's generally network config issues

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update waterfall and see the logs

heavy needle
reef fulcrum
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That's not latest

tribal totem
tulip surgeBOT
tribal totem
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thanks... already did that tho

reef fulcrum
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Something induced an oversizded handshake packet

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most cases are basically doing things like connecting the proxy to itself, or hostnames which are too long for mc

tribal totem
#

ook

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how would i work out which is the issue?

reef fulcrum
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check your config, etc

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also, as for 1, that's probs config too; The proxy remembers the last server you where on, you can disable that thing by setting to force the default server in the config file

tribal totem
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I had a spelling mistake

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i hate my life

craggy sparrow
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Is this normal for waterfall server? The bandwidth usage is very high

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tough vale
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how many online?

craggy sparrow
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Like 20-ish most of the time

tough vale
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yeah ok not normal

craggy sparrow
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How can I fix it?

craggy trout
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20 users would hardly spend 1tb in a month, a typical layer7 attack on your server could easily reach that in a matter of minutes or seconds depending on the power on repetitive times

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I feel like that, only probable cause

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I guess your solution would be to use some quick mitigation system if your host doesn't give it to you, improve your firewall or use some reverse proxy that filters the traffic before it reaches your machine

craggy sparrow
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only few that use velocity show normal usage

placid elm
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<-> InitialHandler - overflow in packet detected! A string was longer than allowed. For more information, launch Waterfall with -Dwaterfall.packet-decode-logging=true
wondering if anyone has seen this before with geyser -> TCPShield -> waterfall

craggy trout
craggy trout
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I had a "big" network running more than 600 players on the same proxy and the bandwich usage was much less than yours

craggy sparrow
craggy trout
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Yes what i said you before^^

craggy sparrow
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What is tipic flood?

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And how can I fix this?

craggy trout
craggy sparrow
#

Should I buy anti ddos services?

craggy trout
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Probably?

craggy sparrow
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Wait

craggy trout
#

Is your server premium rigth?

craggy trout
craggy sparrow
craggy sparrow
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I'm the hosting owner

craggy trout
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Bruh

craggy sparrow
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I can't enforce my client to use tcp shield

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:"

craggy trout
#

Probably that all bandwich is the totally of all your hosters?

craggy sparrow
#

There's more with blazing 40gb+ bandwith usage under 24hour

craggy trout
#

How much customers do you have

craggy sparrow
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31

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And only few proxy

craggy trout
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Spigot counts as traffic tho

craggy sparrow
craggy trout
#

BungeeCord + spigot = double traffic

craggy sparrow
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I know that

craggy trout
#

I guess that you can switch to ovh then

craggy sparrow
#

I only got this massive amount of bandwidth just lately

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Just a few days ago

craggy sparrow
craggy sparrow
craggy trout
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Look at your logs, and check if they are not full of random proxies, if so you know what caused the bandwidth to be so high

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I guess? At a low scale should work

craggy sparrow
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Okay

craggy sparrow
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My wings log?

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Or the servers log?

craggy trout
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Server logs

craggy sparrow
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Alr

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So to ovh it is then

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Well dat's fine

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Thanks for your help tho

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Oh one more. Will it work of I just use anti ddos services. But they mostly offer l4 protection

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L7 is quite rare and expensive

craggy trout
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eh, well expensive because is harder to detect i think

craggy sparrow
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the problem with ovh is, Indonesian biggest ISP seems to hated it

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with player having +100ms pings

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whilst the ones using other isp getting 20ms

marble kelpBOT
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with which datacentre?

craggy sparrow
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wth it's a bot

marble kelpBOT
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well do a traceroute and see at which point the ping loss occurs

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ok well I mean your biggest issue is probably that you don't have good connections between indonesia and singapore lol

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ok that data is from 2014 so might be better now thonk

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could just be a routing issue (like it going via the us or something)

craggy sparrow
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it's just sometimes ovh dedi just have huge ping

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sometimes they're good

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and I've seen ppl hating ovh to the bones because of this

marble kelpBOT
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again: check your traceroute