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crystal pelican
pearl idol
fervent timber
selecting the velocity filter changes the version numbers to velocity versions, but the label still says Minecraft versions
unusable tbh
distant girder
It's not loading
lone rain
other websites load fine for me
thorn bronze
Is it just me or is https://hangar.papermc.io/ not loading?
it died
lone rain
lol
mellow lynx
It killed my whole browser 🙈
umbral fractal
Give it a minute or two.
frozen oar
hangar only for free plugins ?
soft sluice
it is down
lone rain
hangar >
elder timber
hangar >>> spigot resources
chrome halo
great launch everyone
hoary flax
Did the site just crash?
edgy fiber
hoary flax
Also, I received two verification emails.
stark ingot
Hangar servers ^
edgy fiber
young yew
Is it my laptop being odd or has Hangar has literally just gone offline-
soft sluice
it is down
hangar down rn
dreamy marten
hanger moment ^
stark ingot
spice folio
It's part of the open beta, see how it performs under extreme sudden stress
stark ingot
desert plaza
This thing is literally written in Java
I didn't except it to handle too much ppl but its still legit my favorite idea of Paper's dev's so far!
calm notch
stark ingot
Martin to Kenny - Well shit. This didn't go to plan. GET MOAR POWER!
grim quiver
the site crashing due to high traffic is probably one of the best possible things to have gone wrong on launch announcement
spice folio
Well it could've been worse
lone rain
💀
spice folio
Apparently mini forgot to scale up front end before
so hard fork pretty soon?
soft sluice
Well it could've been worse
could've been the cp2077 launch
soft sluice
so none at all 3 times in a row
soft sluice
**Can't keep up! Is the server lagging behind?**
their console rn
website hosted on papermc server
desert plaza
just get folia runnin on it xD
Genius bruh
willow gust
i can see hanger being very useful
willow gust
its very useful
pseudo lagoon
just get folia runnin on it xD
folia regions > CIDR threads
spice folio
I was able to set my profile picture!
desert plaza
folia regions > CIDR threads
You're god damn right
willow gust
ive just been scrolling through it and it has high potential
soft sluice
ive just been scrolling through it and it has high potential
your username confused me so much
desert plaza
willow gust
lol
crystal pelican
so *hard fork pretty soon?*
west flare
As soon as the site isn't dead anymore
stark ingot
Kenny's PFP is a true representation of this launch.
spice folio
that would help
lapis harness
Soooo, who wants to help with writing a PHP based frontend?
stark ingot
desert plaza
Dude got hugged so hard it dying out of suffocation
willow gust
Soooo, who wants to help with writing a PHP based frontend?
whats it currently written in?
dusk granite
Soooo, who wants to help with writing a PHP based frontend?
If its based on Mediawiki, sure 
crystal pelican
Java
knotty mica
Java, really?
lapis harness
backend is java, frontend is vue
crystal pelican
Jk
knotty mica
ohhh xD
tardy tundra
Soooo, who wants to help with writing a PHP based frontend?
Switch to PHP and watch it scale 
willow gust
~~Java~~<a:rierunrunrun:875212558720725022>
java for web development? interesting choice
spice folio
if you know it well and can make it work, you know why not
desert plaza
backend is java, frontend is vue
So the front end just commit suicide?
willow gust
backend is java, frontend is vue
ahhh
crystal pelican
So the front end just commit suicide?
Self imposed ddos 
willow gust
lapis harness
yes, frontend commit sudoku
crystal pelican
knotty mica
Self imposed ddos <:AYAYARie:788407255200038912>
Wouldn't that mean that we managed to crash Cloudflare's ddos? 😂
desert plaza
Dude if this was possible
willow gust
it wouldnt even need to reach cloudflare if it ddosed itself
spice folio
a good old game of minesweeper
desert plaza
Imagine just asking it to die and it does
soft sluice
Imagine just asking it to die and it does
me irl
crystal pelican
Sorry guys the Xeon from 2011 wasn’t cut for it
willow gust
it uses a xeon? fairs
lone rain
Wouldn't that mean that we managed to crash Cloudflare's ddos? 😂
cloudflare lets the traffic go ahead since ig it's not enough traffic for cloudflare to consider it an attack
crystal pelican
Let’s wait for mini to fix 
it’s a joke
spice folio
Sorry guys the Xeon from 2011 wasn’t cut for it
I run my website on an amd phenom from 2009.
willow gust
fairs
desert plaza
Imagine calling out Cloudflares mainhost just because they couldn't handle a server ROFL
willow gust
hanger back
crystal pelican
It’s back!
desert plaza
tyvm
crystal pelican
lapis pumice
crystal pelican
Love my embedded profile really strike it home
unreal swift
How static webapp can get overloaded 🤔
desert plaza
https://hangar.papermc.io/EterNity
when profile commenting is allowed let me know
soft sluice
It’s back!
front end just sudokud again when you wrote that
willow gust
now we wait for it to be overloaded again
stark ingot
desert plaza
front end just sudokud again when you wrote that
Front end said I am ROOT and died
stark ingot
Issue: We broke it.
crystal pelican
Can we report @west flare for getting a head start on viarewind download count????????
stark ingot
Quick Q - How do we get it to resend an email confirmation?
viral wren
spice folio
How do I get to send me a new verification code?
desert plaza
Quick Q - How do we get it to resend an email confirmation?
get the original confirmation code, login go to profile and put the code in
It should be on your email somewhat
west flare
In Settings > Account there should be a button
desert plaza
retry
surreal cairn
Is the mail server down? I did not get an email
pine crow
hm I'm not getting the verification email, is that part delayed due to traffic?
desert plaza
Could be due traffick
stark ingot
Ill wait until tomorrow lmfao.
desert plaza
Just wait til tomorrow yeah
stark ingot
hoary flax
I got two verification emails, must have stole one from someone else
desert plaza
should be done til den
stark ingot
I got two verification emails, must have stole one from someone else
EVIL!
desert plaza
I got two verification emails, must have stole one from someone else
imagine
elder timber
I got the email but when entering the code I get an "AxiosError"
willow gust
axios is an L
willow gust
I got two verification emails, must have stole one from someone else
maybe u stole mine lol, mine aint coming through
ocean totem
email didnt sent to me
viral wren
Are usernames unique on hangar?
hearty lichen
They weren't prior to the announcement. Maybe it has an incredibly low rate limit.
willow gust
probably
viral wren
If they are unique, I just got the username Admin
elder timber
gg
viral wren
I would assume so
pine crow
can you move a project to an organization later if you create it under your username now?
west flare
Moving projects to organizations is still todo
near glacier
yes!
rigid egret
feelsbad for the server handling the pfp uploads lol
near glacier
oh
viral wren
kenny or minedigger are usernames unique
crystal pelican
If they are unique, I just got the username Admin
dreamy marten
the verify email doesnt seem to be sending... ?
viral wren
Oh yeah that is why
hearty lichen
Yeah, emails aren't going out in a reasonable timeframe (if at all)
dusty nova
how do I see the terms and conditions?
viral wren
hearty lichen
how do I see the terms and conditions?
linked at bottom of page
rigid egret
Yeah, emails aren't going out in a reasonable timeframe (if at all)
sadge
dusty nova
perhaps having that be a link on the "Terms and Conditions" text might be nice
viral wren
Yeah, emails aren't going out in a reasonable timeframe (if at all)
that is so sad
hearty lichen
Not as sad as creating an account with a username that might result in deletion. 😆
rigid egret
oh hallelujah you can change your username for free
viral wren
why would an username get deleted if it isnt nsfw?
rigid egret
why would an username get deleted if it isnt nsfw?
impersonation is generally frowned upon
viral wren
i am not impersonating anyone
rigid egret
an admin
viral wren
i don't have the Hangar Admin status do i
hearty lichen
viral wren
lol
spice folio
Could've just used your own name like normal people
rigid egret
i don't have the Hangar Admin status do i
u think kids are gonna look for that
hearty lichen
Why do that when you can be edgy
viral wren
username = edgy 👍
elder timber
Is there a way to confirm my email address? If I enter the code, I get a status response of 400 from an AxiosRequest
rigid egret
ur lucky u even got an email code lol
viral wren
lol yeah
lone rain
Is there a way to confirm my email address? If I enter the code, I get a status ...
idk where to enter the code but I just had to click the link and it worked
ocean totem
i think guys you need to increase ProjectName from 28 characters long to at least 48
elder timber
I got it before it first crashed
elder timber
idk where to enter the code but I just had to click the link and it worked
That doesn't work either :/
hearty lichen
i think guys you need to increase ProjectName from 28 characters long to at leas...
What name were you thinking of that's in the 30 to 50 char range?
lone rain
also this was the first time I used my phone as a security key
other websites didn't work but hangar works 😌
rigid egret
What name were you thinking of that's in the 30 to 50 char range?
especially ones that follow the project naming rules
knotty mica
28 chars is a lot lol
spice folio
I don't really think there anything you need that is bigger then 28 characters unless you want to add [Multithreaded] buzz word jargon
dusty nova
will there be anything in place to prevent the emoji and overly long plugin names like what happens on spigot?
hearty lichen
mbaxter's super cool plugin! is 28 chars, uh oh.
hearty lichen
will there be anything in place to prevent the emoji and overly long plugin name...
Us slapping that down aggressively 😄
dusty nova
very cool 👍
rigid egret
I don't really think there anything you need that is bigger then 28 characters u...
if that's even allowed lol
crystal pelican
Yeah we aim to create a better plugin place with modern supports for developers.
viral wren
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/deluxeasyncjoinleavemessage-fully-optimized-e...
goofy Name
hearty lichen
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/deluxeasyncjoinleavemessage-fully-optimized-e...
that's 27 chars.
viral wren
Deluxe
async
no one cares
lone rain
that's 27 chars.
oh shoot really
hearty lichen
Yep
crystal pelican
Lol
lone rain
2 characters off 😔
chrome halo
The first time you visit the website if it grabs dark mode from your browser(Firefox) it doesn't change the icon to dark mode but if I toggle it on and off it does.
lone rain
The first time you visit the website if it grabs dark mode from your browser(Fir...
i think that happened to me too
rigid egret
The first time you visit the website if it grabs dark mode from your browser(Fir...
spice folio
Oh that's pretty neat, custom release channels
near glacier
there is an issue with email, am investigating
rigid egret
so if a plugin uses a name that's not allowed, will the author get a warning about it first to change it
pine crow
I tried creating a version for my project and got an invalid request content error
knotty mica
Also, I don't think a plugin needs to be named
DeluxeAsyncJoinLeaveMessage | Fully OPTIMIZED | Everything Fully Asynchronous | Open Source
is it because spaces aren't allowed in the version string?
west flare
marble pelican
i love minecraft version 3.2
west flare
Fixed on staging
tribal saddle
https://hangar.papermc.io/md_5
Seems to be a stray "null" in the embed
lone rain
i wonder what md_5 is gonna upload to hangar 👀
rigid egret
async spigot
knotty mica
Is it even md_5? xD
near glacier
there is an issue with email, am investigating
mystic mantle
how do i accept a project transfer from user -> organization?
candid cloak
Moving projects to organizations is still todo
I think that's still todo
viral wren
Is it even md_5? xD
I doubt it
knotty mica
Same
viral wren
add integrations with discord and stuff
marble pelican
im not sure what is currently planned for hangar, but it would be really nice to make your own lists of plugins and be able to quickly download the latest version of every plugin from that list
lapis harness
Good news, our email service has put us on probation
viral wren
oh wait that exists maybe
rigid egret
I like this plugin importer, v nice
marble pelican
Good news, our email service has put us on probation
oops
lapis harness
We have a public API, so somebody could easily create a tool which lets you pull a list of plugins, etc
I think that somebody had already worked on something to that effect somewhere
slender root
im not sure what is currently planned for hangar, but it would be really nice to...
There's a roadmap: https://github.com/orgs/HangarMC/projects/1/views/14
near glacier
our email provider locked our account for 30 min because we did send too many emails apparently, so delivering will take some time, please bare with us...
rigid egret
We have a public API, so somebody could easily create a tool which lets you pull...
oo actually that would be nice for my discord bot so i dont have to update the list manually
viral wren
our email provider locked our account for 30 min because we did send too many em...
oml..
no way..
shouldnt folia be a platform as well?
ocean totem
Hyperlinks works (s)hitty cuz sometimes it works but with longer links it not
also <center> not always work
rigid egret
is there any limitation to not verifying the email atm?
lapis harness
Folia is basically paper with a tag
near glacier
After completing this form, we will get back to you by email in 1 business day, or call if we have additional questions.
candid cloak
our email provider locked our account for 30 min because we did send too many em...
gl with that, thank you all for all of your work on Hangar!
viral wren
shouldnt folia be a platform as well?
aren't there also some plugins that only work on bungeecord and not waterfall? not sure
viral wren
tbf fair lol
hearty lichen
aren't there also some plugins that only work on bungeecord and not waterfall? n...
Notice how there isn't a "spigot" platform choice either. Nor a "bukkit 1.7.10" platform...
rigid egret
that's what spigot is for, no?
lapis harness
plugins that work with bungee should work with waterfall unless they're doing something dumb
not that bungee doesn't require you to do dumb at times
west flare
Considering basically all plugins of our upstream projects work on Paper/Waterfall, you can upload them on Hanagr
lapis harness
all we generally hope for is that stuff uploaded on our platform works with stuff on our platform ^^
rigid egret
something i might suggest is to make the whole box for a plugin clickable instead of just the title, since it kinda looks like a giant button already
viral wren
i agree
umbral fractal
Open a feature request
rigid egret
on it
crystal pelican
Today we can make hangar better
ocean totem
Today we can make hangar better <:AYAYARie:788407255200038912>
ye
quasi oracle
Wait patiently
ocean totem
i think you need to improve text editor like Spigot, cuz i can center mine text and color it
crystal pelican
Cross-post from mini in general https://i.imgur.com/M95Sgfv.png
knotty mica
Cross-post from mini in general https://i.imgur.com/M95Sgfv.png
in what... 10mins? xD
quasi oracle
i think you need to improve text editor like Spigot, cuz i can center mine text ...
Markdown supports neither
ocean totem
Markdown supports neither
wdym
near glacier
<center>Hi</center>
ocean totem
<center>Hi</center>
i tried, not works
quasi oracle
wdym
Literally the language used to express how the text should look like doesn't have a function for any of that
spice folio
Cross-post from mini in general https://i.imgur.com/M95Sgfv.png
damn and all in what a minute?
ocean totem
either text won't to be in other lines, either text editor megaW
stray viper
is there a way to embed a youtube video in the plugin description?
near glacier
ocean totem
eng
near glacier
works fine for me
quasi oracle
https://i.imgur.com/9Iqv50R.png
wait what now
ocean totem
works fine for me
i need to center many lines text, and it puts it all in one
quasi oracle
@near glacier 
Crowdin could use some love
umbral fractal
It's on the roadmap
ocean totem
<@134340832093405184> <:this:463843257240125460> Crowdin could use some love
only for 1 min i'd translated for 28 langs
toxic crag
I would suggest the abort button for uploading a version be changed to a different color like red, or a confirmation added, my brain on autopilot automatically clicked it
umbral fractal
Open a feature request
toxic crag
on github?
near glacier
ye
west flare
I'll change it
lapis harness
a button like abort generally shouldn't be near "progress" buttons
lapis harness
smh
toxic crag
another issue, you cannot deselect parent page, i'll open a issue
near glacier
check pins
warm turtle
don't see a notification for transferring a resource to an organization you own
near glacier
yeah thats not implemented rn
warm turtle
rip
near glacier
we should have had disabled that
warm turtle
will it be planned soon
near glacier
its on the roadmap, ye
quasi oracle
Can we get Polish on Hangar's Crowdin and can I get proofreader there?
near glacier
actually looking at the code it should be disabled
strange
dont touch crowdin rn its not implemented and the texts are old
quasi oracle
Fine 😔
warm turtle
actually looking at the code it should be disabled
I tried re-sending it and it still does the same thing
near glacier
yeah am investigating
rigid egret
is this discord's font lol
chilly swift
Are we allowed to upload Spigot plugins or does it have to be using the Paper libraries?
quaint carbon
is hangar injecting information in jars yet @near glacier
know it was spoken about a long time ago
like resource info, version etc
near glacier
nah
quaint carbon
still planned?
near glacier
Are we allowed to upload Spigot plugins or does it have to be using the Paper li...
thats fine, should just work on paper
viral wren
is this discord's font lol
where is that?
ocean totem
Hyperlinks now works with <p> and <center>
so how to create them
rigid egret
where is that?
one of my resource's pages
spark shale
I'd really like the ability to update the capitalisation of a username/org
viral wren
can you send
rigid egret
i havent finished the resource stuff yet so it's private atm
viral wren
oh okay
although i am pretty sure it cannot be discord's font as their font is private
rigid egret
yeah just looks similar
viral wren
yep
viral wren
yeah discord doesn't like that i am pretty sure
viral wren
that looks so nice dam
spark shale
quasi oracle
you can literally open the source and see what font it is
pulsar sequoia
How can I embed Videos?
ocean totem
hyperlinks are broken
they won't work anymore
pulsar sequoia
do I just like put the video url there? I tried it with iframe (which worked on modrinth) but that doesnt show anything
rigid egret
idk that u can tbh
quasi oracle
Markdown is not HTML nor BBCode
near glacier
we had auto embed before but I think we havent added that back to the new markdown thingy
please raise an issue
pulsar sequoia
Markdown is not HTML nor BBCode
I know that - but some platforms allow some html tags in markdown. Like modrinth. Thats why I mentioned it
ocean totem
I know that - but some platforms allow some html tags in markdown. Like modrinth...
text editor is horrible fix it please
about 30 mins imma try to edit mine text(center it and do hyperlinks), in spigot i did it with 5 mins...
near glacier
hangar allows a limited set of html too
dusk granite
<blink> when
rigid egret
text editor is horrible fix it please
about 30 mins imma try to edit mine text(c...
tbf hangar is brand new wheras spigot has been around for many years
pulsar sequoia
tbf hangar is brand new wheras spigot has been around for many years
and hangar is custom - spigotmc just literally bought the xenforo resources plugin lmao
ocean totem
tbf hangar is brand new wheras spigot has been around for many years
thats why its Open Beta
viral wren
yay I am BadName1!!!
rigid egret
yes - Beta
ocean totem
and hangar is custom - spigotmc just literally bought the xenforo resources plug...
i think its need to be improved
umbral fractal
Then open a feature request
rigid egret
yay I am BadName1!!!
did someone change urs lol
rigid egret
sounds like something mbax would change it to lol
viral wren
I actually originally had Ender, changed it to Admin and now it got changed to BadName1 so I am stuck with this LMAO
hearty lichen
I can't even access my account 
rigid egret
F
west flare
L
hearty lichen
I was just trying to help fix the password change bug, so I was waiting on that going to production but apparently we're launching first and now emails won't send so I can't reset my password to get in 😦
near glacier
you can change it again now @viral wren
viral wren
thank you
near glacier
emails should go thru again mbax
rigid egret
I was just trying to help fix the password change bug, so I was waiting on that ...
big rip
viral wren
time to become Admim
hearty lichen
omg
hearty lichen
squee I'm in
viral wren
btw i think it would be cool if we could change the capitalisation of the name whenever we want instead of every 30 days, i know pull request but eh
rigid egret
i mean u can make an issue without a pr
viral wren
alright
rigid egret
can confirm the emails are working again btw
west flare
I'll fix that
hearty lichen
Oh that's fun, several clicks after logging in it finally decided I'm dark mode again.
near glacier
aaannnd we banned again
viral wren
bro what is this email provider thing lol
lapis harness
Mailgun
rigid egret
Oh that's fun, several clicks after logging in it finally decided I'm dark mode ...
if u let it do what ur browser says without toggling it manually it seems to be kinda random
near glacier
1470s this time
lapis harness
It's just typical spam bs prevention
viral wren
imagine like an actually big company launches some app with this and they go through this 
umbral fractal
Oh that's fun, several clicks after logging in it finally decided I'm dark mode ...
viral wren
so bad
umbral fractal
I need to open an actual issue for it
rigid egret
secret channels are fun
umbral fractal
It's not secret
viral wren
fr #Unknown
lapis harness
Big companies generally havee agreements and actual handshakes with providers
umbral fractal
You're not in Hangar Discord
rigid egret
ah i see
viral wren
THERES A DISCORD?
rigid egret
didnt realize there was a separate discord
lapis harness
We're not exactly large enough to go wine and dine mailgun staff, so, rip
ocean totem
finally i done with mine text yaaaay
40 mins
viral wren
millions of players are playing on your server software
well idk millions
bro why the hell are people shooting fireworks rn
rigid egret
bstats exists
hearty lichen
https://discord.com/channels/855123416889163777/859527399901626398/1099424432872...
I haven't told it to change theme today at all. It just... did it. 😛
viral wren
what the fuck bro its 12 AM and not anything special???
umbral fractal
I haven't told it to change theme today at all. It just... did it. 😛
I think it's based on system preference I'd have to double check
But there's a bug where it's not sensing it right away
rigid egret
I think it's based on system preference I'd have to double check
that sounds right
umbral fractal
I noticed it in a couple of Nuxt projects after a recent version update
viral wren
124k servers on paper?
umbral fractal
I even brought it up with the Nuxt team and didn't get too far with it.
near glacier
those stats are undercutting it extremly
ocean totem
how can i change size of text? <size=...>?
viral wren
patiency is key
dusk granite
I've noticed that bStats player counter seems broken for a lot of plugins recently
stark holly
Markdown is not HTML nor BBCode
Actually CommonMark has inline HTML and quite a few other dialects support it as well (GitHub Flavoured Markdown etc.)
https://spec.commonmark.org/0.30/#html-block
viral wren
lol only 73k users
near glacier
you can do headlines in markdown with # or ## or ###
ocean totem
you can do headlines in markdown with # or ## or ###
thats all?
viral wren
why do you need more
not this one apparently
near glacier
we support h1 - h6
ocean totem
you can do headlines in markdown with # or ## or ###
but if i need to change size of whole text?
near glacier
rigid egret
coolio
cant wait for discord children to type in the biggest text possible to get help with crap
ocean totem
cant wait for discord children to type in the biggest text possible to get help ...
already lmao
rigid egret
its cool in like threads and stuff but man they need to keep that out of normal chats
west flare
Well have fun burning down Hangar, sleep time
stark holly
its cool in like threads and stuff but man they need to keep that out of normal ...
You can already talk like this if you want to
knotty mica
lol.. good night
stark holly
Good night
rigid egret
**You can already talk like this if you want to**
still better than big text
mystic mantle
how do i accept a project transfer from user -> organization?
?
rigid egret
so in regards to the email issue, if there's a resource that has a ton of watchers and it posts an update, won't that cause the same issue as we're having now with everyone signing up?
west flare
Emails are only sent on account related things
ocean totem
Bad Request: Keyword is too long
when imma trying add Links(sidebar) in mine plugin's page yeah
upd: name only 5 characters
umbral fractal
Certified SpigotMC moment when EssentialsX updates.
lapis harness
once we gain more reputation we'll be able to send more emails
it's just typical small guy issues
rigid egret
oh how will we know when plugins update normally then?
umbral fractal
once we gain more reputation we'll be able to send more emails
Vouch
lapis harness
Does the platform do in-app notifications?
Adding more emails down the line is something we can look into, ofc; just, MVP and all
near glacier
I filed a support request with them, they will remove the limit within one business day it seems
if they agree with me
so its just an issue for now
we should have had sorted this out earlier but since the mailgun account isnt new, I didnt expect this
rigid egret
yeah i may have to wait till thats a feature till i start downloading plugins from hangar - i rely on these emails to know what plugins i actually need to update still and whatnot lol
ocean totem
```Bad Request: Keyword is too long```
when imma trying add Links(sidebar) in mi...
is that a bug?
lapis harness
I mean, UI bug maybe, otherwise, you put something in too large
near glacier
keywords are on another page in the UI/settings page
ocean totem
I mean, UI bug maybe, otherwise, you put something in too large
its only 5 characters
near glacier
go to the general page
ocean totem
upd: when im trying to save something in /settings - Bad Request: Keyword is too long is shown as result for me
near glacier
yes, because the keywords on the general page are too long
ocean totem
yes, because the keywords on the general page are too long
which exactly?
rigid egret
so ur telling me we cant put the whole alphabet in there /j
ocean totem
https://i.imgur.com/0cfe6II.png
oh yeah, thanks!
orchid imp
I am not able to download the HealthHider plugin!
oops didnt mean to actually tag u
my bad
I just wanted to see if you were in the discord... hit enter as a habit
knotty mica
@rigid egret Is there a reason why you need to have so many characters in the plugin name? 😂 28 chars is a lot
rigid egret
<@277291758503723010> Is there a reason why you need to have so many characters ...
it was a joke, hence the /j
knotty mica
Never seen anyone type /j to warn it was a joke but ok xD
orchid imp
https://i.imgur.com/0cfe6II.png
would you be able to help w my file issue?
rigid egret
you clearly haven't used the internet much then
orchid imp
/j means?
knotty mica
that its a joke
orchid imp
/s is serious, no?
knotty mica
apparently
orchid imp
oh
knotty mica
idk
orchid imp
j for joke, makes sense
rigid egret
/s is serious, no?
sarcastic
knotty mica
I'd rather type the full word instead of some weird acronym that almost nobody ever uses 🙂
rigid egret
a significant amount of people use it actually
orchid imp
rigid egret
knotty mica
Interesting...
Never seen anybody use that and I've been in and managed multiple big communities on Discord
crystal pelican
It’s very community dependent but #hangar-help 
let’s keep on topic a bit.
mystic mantle
how do i accept a project transfer from user -> organization?
anyone know how? 🫤
knotty mica
It’s very community dependent but <#1098348646757568541> <:Paperyis:102299155797...
yea sorry
also, think i found a bug https://img.tehzombijesus.ca/bR6hjM4PTu
i cant unselect any of them
umbral fractal
Open a bug report
knotty mica
Oki
near glacier
yeah for some reason JS wasnt executed
should be fine now, hard refresh using control + f5 if it persists
knotty mica
should be fine now, hard refresh using control + f5 if it persists
works, thanks
oh mb, forgot to disable ping
mystic mantle
anyone know how? 🫤
is it done with an email (meaning i cant do it rn)?
near glacier
you cant transfer to an org rn, thats not implemented yet
it was supposed to be disabled but the disable code had a bug, lol
near glacier
there is an open issue for the importer to allow selecting where to import the project to, yes
rigid egret
is the manual review for each new plugin gonna use a lot of human resources
near glacier
we plan to have most reviews automated
rigid egret
ah nice
also i'm guessing it's for every plugin update too right
blissful zenith
all uploaded 🙂 nice work, relatively painless. hopefully the mc-publish GH action can get updated or forked soonish so I can setup CI with the alpha release channel!
mystic mantle
all uploaded 🙂 nice work, relatively painless. hopefully the mc-publish GH acti...
they have a gradle plugin im pretty sure (https://github.com/HangarMC/hangar-publish-plugin)
blissful zenith
yeah but nah
mystic mantle
yeah but nah
true lmao, easier to have it all in one place
blissful zenith
thats very cool but I personally prefer publish and release control being done on the repo side
mystic mantle
oh right gradle isnt the same as github lmaoooo
blissful zenith
yeah lol. modrinth has one of those too, and it's their official thing, and again extremely cool and neat, but not my cup of tea
near glacier
the gradle plugin also serves as a kind of POC
so you have an example of how the api works
but theoretically you can upload via curl
crystal pelican
Epic!!
blissful zenith
not sure how many are familiar with https://github.com/Kir-Antipov/mc-publish -- and I haven't delved into its internals, but it's just such a nice thing to have. maintainer's a little inactive, but it works pretty much perfectly for MR / CurseForge, albeit it was originally designed for mods rather than plugins
there's an active issue open tracking adding support for plugins & other market platforms, upon which I am opening pinning my hopes and dreams to reduce the half hour I spend publishing releases across all these different platforms, lol
mystic mantle
there's an active issue open tracking adding support for plugins & other market ...
same, been waiting for plugins to be officially supported and mainstreamed for a while
near glacier
got thru to our email provider
After reviewing the account in detail, we have removed the sending limitation, and now the account is fully enabled. This means that your emails will no longer be restricted to 100 per hour
blissful zenith
are there any account limitations placed if your email isn't verified?
as in, on hangar
viral crane
i found that you cant enable 2fa
mystic mantle
are there any account limitations placed if your email isn't verified?
no 2fa/security devices ^
blissful zenith
oh right lol
mystic mantle
email worked! i verified :))
near glacier
mmmh, should I resend all emails?
viral crane
fuck it ?
mystic mantle
ppl might have spammed thinking it wasnt working
near glacier
245 emails
viral crane
it lets people know the service is back
near glacier
yeah
knotty mica
i was expecting way worse
viral crane
people who may not've otherwise cared to try
rigid egret
might confuse those who already set up their account tho
viral crane
i say ship it funny email spam
viral crane
might confuse those who already set up their account tho
worst they do is click the link again
rigid egret
site crashes
mystic mantle
might confuse those who already set up their account tho
only a few ppl have done it since it was just fixed
rigid egret
that was fast lol
near glacier
sorry 😄
rigid egret
i got 2 of the same one
mystic mantle
i got 2 of the same one
same lol
knotty mica
MINI! XD
rigid egret
if that doesn't shout "EMAILS ARE BACK" then idk what does
knotty mica
near glacier
lol how
knotty mica
idk
rigid egret
did u request a code multiple times
knotty mica
no
rigid egret
lol
mystic mantle
https://img.tehzombijesus.ca/Logyi3lZQZ
r they all the same?
mystic mantle
lmaooo
unreal swift
10!
crystal pelican
Man sharing is caring!
rigid egret
i wonder if it kept retrying and just gave up eventually?
mystic mantle
rigid egret
nice tld
mystic mantle
thanks lol
near glacier
not implemented yet
knotty mica
all the 8 emails was the same codel ol
near glacier
wtf
rigid egret
so less [redacted] and more [unavailable] lol
mystic mantle
so less [redacted] and more [unavailable] lol
or just not there at all 
rigid egret
[coming soon]
mystic mantle
so is hangar now "fully released"? "fully" as in like: https://github.com/Kir-Antipov/mc-publish/issues/23#issuecomment-1456349596
lapis harness
It's in open beta
as for what they consider to be "fully released", we can't comment on that
mystic mantle
yeah i realized that after i sent sorry lmao
crystal pelican
It’s more visible to public now so hopefully it will get some PR interests 😉
near glacier
yeah we did send out all emails but the code most likely isnt valid anymore
but you can resend it
tight carbon
yea that worked
knotty mica
also, this works for windows hello https://img.tehzombijesus.ca/aMKApl2Q6K
just setup face recognition with it xD
crystal pelican
That’s pretty hot.
mystic mantle
also, this works for windows hello https://img.tehzombijesus.ca/aMKApl2Q6K
ikr love it, a ton of other services have security keys, some work with windows hello, others dont 😠
knotty mica
They could try to use this https://passage.id/product/passkeys
near glacier
we support WebAuthN
lapis harness
paying for that stuff gets to be ass
near glacier
everything that uses WebAuthN should work
knotty mica
thats cool
lapis harness
a lot of it really is that it's just a mixture of this being kinda new stuff and stuff in the wider ecosystem is generally just bleh
near glacier
I use the fingerprint on my phone
knotty mica
might want to rename the button or put a message somewhere saying that it supports more then just security keys 🙂
stable pagoda
I just use my actual security keys. kinda weird tho coz windows defaults to just using its own hello and doesn't give you an option otherwise. Weird windows
crystal pelican
Certified windows moment™️
royal kernel
Time to enroll my yubikeys
stable pagoda
I'm always scared of losing both of mine 😆
and it's always a pita to both keep them in safe and different locations but set them all up on services
quasi oracle
literally the only way to lose both yubikeys at once is idk, fire turning both my wallet and the other one into dust
stable pagoda
See I don't carry a wallet. I do have one on my keys tho. I sometimes put my backup in a safe but I'm too lax about it
stable pagoda
I can fit it behind my phone (in my phone case) without it noticeable bulging
stable pagoda
And I haven't needed to ever carry cash or my card ever since I got one (im only 19, had a card for a couple years)
Used google pay ever since I got a card
knotty mica
you use contactless im assuming (NFC)?
stable pagoda
yep. I do get scared my card won't work when I eventually need it to
knotty mica
It might happen
royal kernel
I have three 2FA keys for the very important stuff; one of which I've shipped overseas to a friend for safekeeping and I pray to god I'll never have to ask for it
knotty mica
I work in retail and I see customers needing to physically input their card into the machine sometimes.
So best to carry a card in case.
stable pagoda
What country u in?
knotty mica
Canada
stable pagoda
At least here in the UK we've been extremely forward towards contactless/google pay for many years
knotty mica
Oh it's used everywhere here too
99% of stores support it
but it seems bank might of put some sort of security measure of some kind
to request users input their card every once in awhile to confirm you still have it
stable pagoda
Don't think I've ever had my card declined or well... idk how that even works with google pay tbh
knotty mica
Google Pay as in the payment app on your phone?
stable pagoda
Yh but used for NFC payments
I've never seen one get declined and tbh, idk what they'd do if it does
stable pagoda
I find samsung pay annoying 😢
knotty mica
annoying how
stable pagoda
can't remember. I'll try it again this week
knotty mica
I prefer to not use anything Google related xD
I only have a google account for youtube lol
stable pagoda
Does samsung pay have some extra step or can u just unlock + hold up to card reader?
IIRC that was a complaint I had with it
knotty mica
pin or fingerprint
stable pagoda
sry 💜
sleek vapor
Hi, is it currently possible to embed YouTube videos in Hangar plugin descriptions (or "docs")?
umbral fractal
I think that's an open feature request.
knotty mica
Doesn't it support markdown?
near glacier
it does
sleek vapor
It does support <br>
near glacier
yes
sleek vapor
I think that's an open feature request.
Found it, indeed there already is.
https://github.com/HangarMC/Hangar/issues/1158
edgy flint
Does hangar plan to give devs a portion of the ad revenue the way that modrinth does?
quaint carbon
hangar doesn't have ads in first place
near glacier
Time for sleep
near glacier
Can't do anything about that, on the server side I don't know your timezone, so I update in the client
robust fern
why is hangar ssr lmao
near glacier
Because I want google to not hate me
robust fern
it's possible to set up ssr only for crawlers and stuff, i think frontends like astro help handle that
near glacier
Google really doesn't like being lied to
And it's only the first request, everything after that is client side rendered unless you refresh
main berry
I have a open source plugin and I'm planning to sell it's branding removed version (plugin prefix in chat and menus) on platforms like BBB/PolyM, am I allowed to link em to my project in Hangar which will be 100% FOSS
silver kindle
what did you guys think of UnoCSS? So many frameworks out there that I've never heard of it, but good to know that it's backed on Tailwind, just sometimes faster and more extensible?
absolutely lovely site. really happy that you guys got it to Open Beta!
Initial front-end notes:
text-align: center? should be left-aligned, or experiment inline-block on the "Permissions" sub-header in parenthesis (i.e. "Permissions (at least one permission needs to be set)")will say, for a team that is probably completely backend-experienced, did a very nice job on the frontend
heckin love the hamburger menu though, will need to steal that one day
crystal pelican
Hey thank you for the feedback, if you think there are items that's actionable, will you take sometime to open an issue/feature request on https://github.com/HangarMC/Hangar/issues ? This channel can get spammy and many stuff may get missed. That way there will be an official record for stuffs to do!
silver kindle
I know the proper way would be to issue track all of those separately, but I'm incredibly lazy. Can I just make one issue?
pretty small changes anyways
silver kindle
yay 🥳
silver kindle
I don't understand the question so they might not either. Are you asking if you can advertise the free plugin from Hangar on BBB? And this is your work right?
crystal pelican
(I am not officially a hangar policy enforcer so I cant really answer you but hopefully others can)
silver kindle
The only problem is if you want to advertise the other way around. According to Hangar's Resource Guidelines:
"Related resources, such as projects you took inspiration from, dependencies, and free versions of the same resource on other websites."
So, you can't put the BBB link (assuming it's a paid resource) on the Hangar plugin description.
I can't imagine why there'd be a problem the other way around, unless BBB has rules against it
the question, lest my ramblings stop someone actually on the Hangar team from seeing it:
"I have a open source plugin and I'm planning to sell it's branding removed version (plugin prefix in chat and menus) on platforms like BBB/PolyM, am I allowed to link em to my project in Hangar which will be 100% FOSS" - Aniket
main berry
I don't understand the question so they might not either. Are you asking if you ...
Nope, I'm asking if I can advertise(put a notice in project readme) that a stripped branding version is available to buy on BBB/PolyM
silver kindle
No you can not
main berry
Project itself is foss, but I plan to monetise it with non branded version
main berry
No you can not
Aight, thought I'd ask since I was confused, I did read the resource TOS
Thank you anyways!
potent gale
Yeah free versions of the same resource are permitted but paid versions are not - just in case you have free versions elsewhere, you can link to those
main berry
Ok, here it gets more confusing, brace yourselves
silver kindle
wondering if Hangar will ever support paid resources? 🤔
potent gale
It supports a sort of paid resource, where you charge to provide support
silver kindle
ah I see
main berry
So BBB has a addon and pay what you want system, and I'm gonna make use of it to sell branding stripped version, but technically the resource will be free to download or compile from the source, will I be able to link it to that?
potent gale
Perhaps it'll support paid-but-still-FOSS precompiled jar sorta market one day
potent gale
So BBB has a addon and pay what you want system, and I'm gonna make use of it to...
Is the source branding-free? If I compiled it, would there be branding?
main berry
It's not, but it can be if needed
silver kindle
The new BBB pro thing has pay what you want? How interesting
main berry
Only paid version has branding removed, if people want, they can spend like 5 minutes to get rid of branding from the code
main berry
The new BBB pro thing has pay what you want? How interesting
Yeah, it's cool
potent gale
If the source is branding free, and the resource you link to on BBB is also free and the same exact code, then it aligns with the letter but not the spirit of the rules, and it'll probably be removed. Especially if the source is branded and all you're doing is a basic redirect to a paid version.
What we're trying to avoid with that first bullet point is precisely that - paid, slightly different versions to get people from Hangar to somewhere else where they must pay for an upgrade
hearty lichen
I'd like to chime in with a slippery slope argument because opening with an argumentative fallacy is the sort of thing that really makes Larry happy. If we allowed your idea, what's stopping someone from making the branding really obnoxious with a paid removal?
main berry
Let me put it this way :3
Github source: has branding
Hangar: has branding
BBB: has branding
BBB pay what you want: doesn't have branding
Is that allowed? can I put BBB link in hangar project's description?
potent gale
If the source is branding free, and the resource you link to on BBB is also free...
I understand the situation, and as I said ^
main berry
I agree, I think I'll just remove branding altogether and put in some donation links
hearty lichen
At this moment, I would say don't do what you're describing.
silver kindle
Larry says it’s like a loophole since technically BBB is free, but you will see the ability to pay for a removed branding version in the redirect
potent gale
I agree, I think I'll just remove branding altogether and put in some donation ...
This is a good idea imo, though of course what you do is totally up to you
main berry
I'd rather you guys not allow this for people to post resources with too much branding and sorta force user to buy the paid version
silver kindle
setup a buy me a coffee page or something and give early access to free releases or something
potent gale
^ that's allowed too!
main berry
Nah, simple donations are fine, not looking to monetize this too much, and I don't think people would even pay for a open source project
potent gale
You'd be suprised
hearty lichen
Finding a way to get plugin devs able to financially justify their programming (when working with limited time - I love doing free open source stuff but sometimes you need that extra push) is hard. It was one of the toughest discussions when modifying the guidelines from their starting point.
main berry
Holy
hearty lichen
I definitely do not make millions.
potent gale
hey I basically said that already
silver kindle
^ half the server owners don’t know how to compile a plug-in. furthermore, some are too big development-wise that compiling it gives too many errors because you don’t have certain dependencies installed locally, etc. it was a nightmare to compile PlotSquared, never got it working
potent gale
haha difficulty of compilation is a get-people-to-pay strategy I haven't heard of
hearty lichen
And the worst part is nobody knows how much of the paid-but-source-is-open-to-all payments are from people choosing to do it and how much is reading comprehension or confused kids. It's a really awful grey area for me morally.
prime scarab
wow you guys are really making spigot irrelevant huh lol
silver kindle
as for mbaxter the million-aire, he’s just being humble
main berry
haha difficulty of compilation is a get-people-to-pay strategy I haven't heard o...
*Looks at Oraxen 👀 *
main berry
wow you guys are really making spigot irrelevant huh lol
It already is, at least to me
potent gale
And the worst part is *nobody knows how much of the paid-but-source-is-open-to-a...
think of it as a double moral bonus: you're getting donations from people who want to, and you're giving kids with poor reading skills a chance to learn something important!
hearty lichen
Whenever someone comes in asking questions before buying, if they appear to have trouble reading I ask if they're going to sell stuff for their server and if not I just hand them the 'license' for free because I'm afraid one of these days I'm finding out that little Timmy's purchase of a factions plugin on a debit card prevented Timmy's mom from buying enough pasta that week.
main berry
I'd love if you guys implement something like Modrinth, the ads, they're very minimal but pays well for FOSS stuff
potent gale
I'd love if you guys implement something like Modrinth, the ads, they're very mi...
feels like it'd be plagiarism to do it in just the same way lmao
prime scarab
I'd rather pay 10 dollars and support a project than spend 5 minutes downloading and compiling it myself every update
silver kindle
Whenever someone comes in asking questions before buying, if they appear to have...
so wait, what plug-in and where do you sell it?
I’m no longer much in the scene, sorry if that’s a silly question lmaow
potent gale
also, holy shit running storage and a site costs money and a half, maybe we run ads just to keep it going!
hearty lichen
It's a factions plugin in the top 40 on spigot.
silver kindle
ah okay
hearty lichen
(please don't buy it, this is not an ad)
main berry
feels like it'd be plagiarism to do it in just the same way lmao
Well, another hot take, I wish you guys just adopted to Modrinth as it was already released, would be nice
potent gale
eh, their guidelines and monetization can make things complicated. it's a really great project and maybe we shoulda, but we like hangar too and the freedom from parasitic monetization we can enforce
hearty lichen
Well, another hot take, I wish you guys just adopted to Modrinth as it was alrea...
This is personal opinion, not representative of the team:
I am very leery (not larry, leery) of a site that's VC funded trying to make a profit while just running the least profitable ads possible.
potent gale
wary? not Warry
main berry
I understand 🍻
hearty lichen
Like, what fun surprises could happen when the VC firm starts asking for a better return on that investment? We wouldn't control it, and suddenly we'd be dealing with community fallout from whatever "bad thing ™️ " happened.
last hearthBOT
hearty lichen
One of today's lucky 10,000 🙂
crystal pelican
can yall stop using English word I never seem in my life? 
hearty lichen
seen* ❤️
potent gale
I've* ❤️
main berry
Can* ❤️
potent gale
an English word* ❤️
potent gale
haha
crystal pelican
Also yeah, I will second mbaxter's point, at some point the VC people is gonna come knocking your door asking you where their "return" is. Bad thing happeend to forge and hopefully not to Modrinth!
potent gale
either way, our site can remain a bastion from the perils of corporate greed
like for example if someone tried to sell modrinth to... idk... curse?
silver kindle
the what people? VC?
crystal pelican
You can help keeping it that way here https://opencollective.com/papermc
potent gale
we wouldn't be affected
ngl no idea what they mean by VC either. I'm out of so many loops
crystal pelican
the what people? VC?
Venture Capital but yeah they do not just thrown money at you with no expectation of some degree of return.
||do not give me FTX example, that's a bad example||
hearty lichen
the what people? VC?
Venture Capital. Investors. People putting money into a company as an investment, hoping it will then make them money in the long (or short) term.
crystal pelican
yeah that's the "nicer" term VC
silver kindle
oh if you would’ve said venture capital I would’ve understood, never seen VC be used before.
hearty lichen
I will say that modrinth claims the following:
Investors have a minority stake in the company, and have no control or say in our decisions.
potent gale
until they get MAD that there's not enough MONEY
silver kindle
kenny is such a developer “join our separate guild”
hearty lichen
I don't want to imply modrinth is just waiting for the right moment to ruin everything. But since we don't control it, that's a reason not to touch it. The end.
west flare
Yeah it’s always a bit weird when it comes to FOSS projects depending on paid or company products. Generally, modrinth is and will always be the better choice for mods, but we’re catering specifically to plugins (like multi release jars)
west flare
kenny is such a developer “join our separate guild”
It was a joint project between Sponge and Paper at first, so this channel would have been there as well - but we also didn’t want to clutter the PaperMC Discord with even more channels 😛
plucky briar
I will say that modrinth claims the following:
> Investors have a minority stake...
o/ I work for Modrinth & have been a contributor basically since its inception
Just wanted to clarify that the investors don't have any sort of control nor are they promised a return or anything, we wouldn't have done it otherwise. According to them, they believe Modrinth being successful will have a greater positive impact on the gaming space and they'll get returns thru that impact (they are investors in/own other companies in the space). Apparently they also liked our story, take that for what you will lol.
Anyway, main point is just that they don't have any control and also all creator monetization and site infrastructure is paid for completely thru sustainable generated revenue, which right now is the (very minimal) ads. The investment money is being used for our employees' salaries so we can keep building and growing with a bit of a head start.
lament hull
I'm not here for help, I'm here to say thank you. Thank you to the developers of this project, we finally have a place for Paper plugins! 
It's a very nice looking and functional website.
near glacier
what did you guys think of UnoCSS? So many frameworks out there that I've never ...
Unocss is the successor of windi, which was tailwind but faster because tailwind got inspired by windi, but windi still has some features tailwind doesn't have
But windi was moved into maintiance only a few days ago
dusty nova
Can I delete old versions of a project, or can I delete an entire project?
near glacier
"yes"
they will be soft deleted but not publicly visible
soft delete means only staff can see it
dusty nova
Can it be restored later?
near glacier
"no"
dusty nova
Or is there an archival feature?
near glacier
planned
dusty nova
Ok cool
near glacier
last summit
Question about the formatting in Hangar. It looks like for an unsorted list they add an additional line break between.
Is this by purpose? And if so, how can I remove it that it's nicely formatted without the extra line break?
Solved. Because of the additional linebreak I want to have it displayed everything with an additional linebreak.
By switching between * and - for each paragraph I fixed it
last summit
👍 Done
lapis harness
reviews are something we've kinda decided against for various reasons
spam, abuse, moderation, etc
potentially, but somewhat unlikely unless there is actually demand for it
most authors we've spoken to generally disliked the review section on other platforms because it just got abused for stupid stuff
deft coral
most authors we've spoken to generally disliked the review section on other plat...
Wait really?
Most authors dont want reviews?
lapis harness
See spigots resource section where a good % of reviews are better served by support ticks or submitting a bug report, etc
deft coral
Well I know that
But reviews are still a great way to figure out if the plugin is good or not
If you ignore the stupid bug reports
patent gate
most authors we've spoken to generally disliked the review section on other plat...
While that makes perfect sense I think an independent review platform is very useful for end-users, especially customers.
To hook into what I said before about premium plugins; perhaps make it so that free to use software can disable it?
flint siren
The problem is that people use reviews only for bug reports. If the review was an overall review of the plugin and you note that the plugin has a lot of bugs and isn't very stable, that's a perfectly fine review. However a lot of people just paste a stacktrace in the review and then click a random amount of stars.
lapis harness
We're not exactly independent, however
We have relationships with many people within the community
deft coral
The problem is that people use reviews only for bug reports. If the review was a...
Well pretty easy fix for that is "bug report" button
near glacier
I noticed that too, can you please open an issue so that the validation is done more user friendly?
dusty nova
The problem is that people use reviews only for bug reports. If the review was a...
perhaps instead of stars, use something like steam's "recommended / not recommended"
flint siren
Well pretty easy fix for that is "bug report" button
Considering Spigot has a discussion tab, but reviews are still filled with bug reports, I'm not sure that would help.
near glacier
There is an open issue about reviews, it's not something that will happen anytime soon
lapis harness
which creates many dozens of issues around moderating such a contentious section, you either get spigots "we refuse to moderate this", which just creates constant issues, or when they actually do do moderation and just get constant streams of tears
near glacier
If we do it, we not gonna do it like spigot
dusty nova
or don't give a recommendation status either, so a stupid user can't harm review score
near glacier
Cause that is a clusterfuck
deft coral
Considering Spigot has a discussion tab, but reviews are still filled with bug r...
Yeah but that is not that visible
Make public bug reports
Like one of the buttons you see when you open the page
People are going to use it
flint siren
Spigot also has a button to take you to the discussion thread. Ultimately I think reviews would just result in a lot of plugin authors complaining how x review is completely unfair and should be removed and just results in either a lot of work for staff or a lot of annoyed authors.
near glacier
It wouldn't be a simple star system it would be more involved
Maybe recommended/not recommended, plus people can upvote and down vote reviews
flint siren
What is going to prevent authors from deleting all negative reviews?
lapis harness
allowing authors to remove reviews would literally defeat the entire purpose of reviews
warm canyon
I think that was already reported
weary venture
Does hangar support paid plugins? I can't seem to find an option, and if it doesnt, will it ever?
deft coral
Does hangar support paid plugins? I can't seem to find an option, and if it does...
I think they said it is going to
lapis harness
it's been discussed, no concrete plans
crystal pelican
Does hangar support paid plugins? I can't seem to find an option, and if it does...
You can find the current guideline here https://hangar.papermc.io/guidelines#monetization-advertising also what cat said
deft coral
You can find the current guideline here <https://hangar.papermc.io/guidelines#mo...
I should be fine right? From what I understood from it my plugin is on the edge but allowed. https://hangar.papermc.io/ChromMob/MineStore
If I needed I will add some functionality to it when the user does not own the CMS
I just need to know if it is ok
hushed smelt
Hey there 👋
Small question about hanger, is there a way/will be a way to sell contents there?
hushed smelt
Got it, thanks for the quick answer!
pastel blaze
Congratulations on the beta! 🥳
blissful zenith
posting this here for if anyone else wanted it: PR'd mc-publish to add preliminary support for hangar https://github.com/Kir-Antipov/mc-publish/pull/63
west flare
Nice
blissful zenith
by the way, uhh, your API docs are kinda funky
lapis harness
please submit issues
blissful zenith
they're a bit incomplete in parts (i.e. there's a bunch of 4xx requests version uploading can return that aren't documented, like posting a wrong content type), the UI is a bit chaotic (maybe this is a swagger thing) and (again also perhaps a swagger thing?) "additionalProp" here is a bit garden-pathy as it's actually just expecting a platform name
yeah okay
not sure if perhaps that's me being a bit pedantic or something, heh. The docs are pretty alright to be fair, but would be nice to have them tidied up a little. I'll submit an issue or two with some of this stuff in a little while
toxic crag
this tiny gap under the download icon is making the button look weird and it's bothering me more than it should
near glacier
add the screenshot to the design issue pls
silver kindle
think a modal should pop-up for external downloads instead of the redirect icon
near glacier
Then you can't copy the url as nicely
warm canyon
You can have an <a> and still cancel navigation on the click event iirc
near glacier
I guess, ye
but modal is also more annoying
but that second icon is smaller intentionally it seems
idk if this is better
weary cosmos
Hey, Whats the Max Icon Size for Projects?
umbral fractal
I'd need to double check if the project icon size follows the typical file size but if it does, 10MB.
umbral fractal
Wrong channel. #paper-help
oblique sail
why can't I remove sponsors? 0-0
knotty mica
Is there a post somewhere that tells what an Editor and Maintainer can do?
knotty mica
😂
knotty mica
Sounds like we need that tho ^^
Feel free to tag me once you figured it out please 🙂
knotty mica
https://github.com/HangarMC/Hangar/blob/de6b54b69a327efd26c4c3eda8b345e3fe4a9341...
So if I understood well..
Editor can only edit the info inside the plugin page.
Maintainer can basically create or delete updates and edit the tags, right?
near glacier
Yes
dapper thunder
Heyyy, i have question, hangar backend is host on cloud or dedicated server ?
quaint carbon
Heyyy, i have question, hangar backend is host on cloud or dedicated server ?
used to be cloud
now dedicated servers
quaint carbon
kubernetes
the frontend consumes the most resources when under heavy load
but for normal usecases it's very efficient on resources
dapper thunder
kubernetes
Why kubernetes when you have a monolithic application and not microservices?
quaint carbon
because kubernetes is more than just scaling
see it as a very extensible API server and a way to administrate baremetal servers
dapper thunder
see it as a very extensible API server and a way to administrate baremetal serve...
kubernetes helps you better manage the api service / monitoring service...?
quaint carbon
kubernetes does a lot
entire infrastructure is defined in a git repository & automated
making it easier for people to maintain the infrastructure
dapper thunder
entire infrastructure is defined in a git repository & automated
it is public ?
quaint carbon
not yet
dapper thunder
shitt
quaint carbon
probably
soft sluice
SignUp Page with only 1 password field?
soft sluice
really? thought to make sure that you typed it correctly
near glacier
This is what web.dev says about this:
Some sites force users to enter emails or passwords twice. That might reduce errors for a few users, but causes extra work for all users, and increases abandonment rates. Asking twice also makes no sense where browsers autofill email addresses or suggest strong passwords. It's better to enable users to confirm their email address (you'll need to do that anyway) and make it easy for them to reset their password if necessary.
That's after what I modeled the auth pages
soft sluice
never thought about that, but makes sense, thanks for sharing that advice!
low wyvern
What format are these timestamps supposed to be in?
near glacier
where exactly?
echo galleon
ohhhh
near glacier
echo galleon
i should click this little text
near glacier
yeah I am not 100% happy with that too, had to rely on JS for the "click the whole box" thing
west flare
But that's also generally a normal thing
No other place even has the entire card act as a link
near glacier
browser spec doesnt allow me to have a link outside and then proper divs or h tags inside the link, links may not contain block elements
deft coral
https://i.imgur.com/bxhTGW3.png
Oh hello fellow ms edge enjoyer
I used to use Firefox but tbh Edge is much better for me
near glacier
It's just the best browser rn
sudden leaf
It's just the best browser rn
I agree with that
elfin sparrow
It's just the best browser rn
wait
im not the only one that uses edge?!?!
this is amazing
deft coral
im not the only one that uses edge?!?!
Nope like a big chunk of people switched recently
Including me
elfin sparrow
the ghost ping... 👀 im always watching
covert ruin
any reason all my pictures I upload for a profile picture look somewhere along the lines of this lol
could it be something with my browser? I've noticed all other recent joins profile pictures look fine
tribal saddle
Any canvas protection extension/any anti-fingerprinting that spoofs canvas stuff, like the built-in ones in Firefox?
covert ruin
Ah I'm using Libre wolf probably that
near glacier
We use canvas to allow scaling and cropping the image you upload
quartz bone
Trying to upload profile picture but I get this
Okay, problem fixed. I didn't have verified the account
covert ruin
We use canvas to allow scaling and cropping the image you upload
So in guessing anti fingerprinting stuff is a no go
Ill have to use a new browser to set my pfp
sudo dnf install chromium
5 seconds later
sudo dnf uninstall chromium
warm canyon
Any sane browser should let you toggle anti-fingerprinting features off, I know Firefox does
covert ruin
I was just being lazy but I will 😢
I'm not that paranoid lmao
I just like having internet privacy where I can
ocean totem
ye #welcome message
i think guys u need here provide link to Hangar
in links category
visual condor
Are you not supposed to create projects with an organization account?
west flare
After deployment is done, the actual error will be displayed there
silver kindle
What format are these timestamps supposed to be in?
seems to me like it should be unix ms sinec epoch 😭 what in the world is that api
severe grove
Trying to import my spigot plugin to hangar, where do I upload the jar?
Changed the name (maybe the name was already taken) and now this part is repeating
I found the error, it was this empty links section
near glacier
Mmh, error handling for that should prolly be improved
I see you opened an issue, wonderful, thank you
alpine drift
is hangar down or am I being stupid
I'm being stupid gotcha
my connection dying right now
proven scarab
yup
near glacier
Should be fixed
visual condor
How does one reject a version in review? Only buttons I see are positive ones.
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