#Modern Horizons 3 Leaks
candid stone
||that sorin|| sounds like it's gonna be an accomplice to a lot of ruined evenings
tired plaza
Definitely want that GB one for Meren
It's nice to get obvious toys for a toolbox commander
proper onyx
Yay, creature Ral
old trench
Grist being referred to as "it" instead of "her" for the backside is really strange
Unless this is just wrong about the pronouns now
https://magic.wizards.com/en/story/grist-planeswalker
inner canopy
Grist being referred to as "it" instead of "her" for the backside is really stra...
the only "it" being referred to ||are the creature cards in the graveyard you are making insect copies of||
oh you mean the transform ability on the front side
old trench
Ah, yeah I meant the ability on the front side which refers to her backside
craggy seal
I wanna say it was a spacing thing but that seems really weird since Grist isn’t a long name and the others do refer to their pronouns
barren escarp
I was wondering if there will be double faced cards beyond the leaked cards and wondered if we'd get any others reprinted, only to then realise that all Double faced cards printed are already modern legal
barren escarp
I do constantly forget about the existence of the Transformers cards despite owning several of them
bleak delta
(Not sure how to spoil the preview but it doesn’t really matter since most of this is unreadable).
native siren
Add < and > to the ends of the link to suppress the preview
bleak delta
I know you can do that but not sure how to have it gain the spoiler box…unless
native siren
Yep that works too
bleak delta
Huh, I swear it didn’t used to do that but neat change
native siren
I really enjoy ||everything counter||
inner canopy
||Llurgoyf commander||
||"Tarmogoyf token" without reminder text||
||Is there stuff in the rules that allows for tokens like that yet?||
native siren
all the artifact tokens are predefined
inner canopy
ah true
i can't make out the jund one
gonna try and guess
||Cor___ the Undertaker 1BRG||
||Legendary Creature - Human Warrior||
||~ has +X/+0, where X is the greatest power among creature cards in all graveyards.||
||Whenever ~ attacks, each player mills a card.||
||During each of your turns, you may play a card or cast a spell from among cards in graveyards that were put there from libraries this turn.||
||0/5||
seems neat
also someone on the reddit points out
that might be ||White/Colorless Elemental Blast|| on the first page
And it seems to ||hate on multicolored||?
also these all appear to be commander cards
old trench
||**Cor___ the Undertaker** 1BRG||
||Legendary Creature - Human Warrior||
||~ ha...
Most likely ||play a land or cast a spell||
tired plaza
Oh right, they're giving me the coloured Eldrazi deck I've always wanted this sey
I forgot about that, that's fun
old trench
||Is there stuff in the rules that allows for tokens like that yet?||
||It's likely gonna use the same tech as Walker tokens, which are just another type of predefined token||
coarse hearth
||https://www.reddit.com/r/MTGRumors/comments/1cc2lip/new_leak_floating_around_m...
|| Jyoti, Moag Ancient 2UG
Legendary Elemental
When ~ etbs, create a 1/1 Forest Dryad for each time you’ve cast a commander from the command zone this game.
At the beginning of each combat, land creatures you control get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is ~’s power. 2/4||
||omo, queen of vesuva 2 U/G
Legendary shapeshifter
when ~ etbs or attacks, put an everything counter on up to one target land and up to one target creature.
each land with an everything counter on it is every land type in addition to its other types.
each nonland creature with an everything counter on it is every creature type in addition to its other creature types. 1/5||
old trench
||I think omu says "nonland creature", though unsure exactly why||
coarse hearth
|| [not sure about name, top nonlegendary eldrazi] 7
whenever you attack, choose odd or even. creatures with the chosen mana value can’t block this turn
each other colorless creature you control has bloodthirst 2 8/6||
|| inversion behemoth 2CC
eldrazi
At the beginning of combat on your turn, switch the power and toughness of each of any number of target creatures until end of turn. 1/?||
old trench
||[the jeskai creature at the top], Aether??? Genius 1WUR
Legendary creature - human artificer
Menace, haste
Whenever ~ attacks, create a tapped and attacking token that's a copy of up to one other target nontoken creature you control. You get 
. At the beginning of the next end step, sacrifice that token unless you pay an amount of equal to its mana value.
3/5||
coarse hearth
||that looks like “target nontoken creature”||
celest pier
old trench
||that looks like “target nontoken creature”||
||ah, good call - this way they can remove the original creature to cut you off of copying it each turn||
old trench
||is this from the same source? I kinda don't believe they'd ever print this||
||and it's suspiciously legible||
celest pier
||I'm not sure, was posted in another server I'm in and the main reason it seems believable is apparently merfolk is supposed to be getting support in MH3||
proper onyx
||and it's suspiciously legible||
The biggest sign of a fake, I can read it
old trench
Points in favor, though: ||1. folks can't seem to find the art on any of the artist's pages or via Google image search, and 2. the collector number lines up with where we'd expect, even when we're expecting a colorless portion at the front||
inner canopy
||Flood Moon||
barren escarp
that does seem like it would go well with ||Shawinigan Handshake||
patent tartan
That and Boil are the two cards that make me think it's not real. Maro has said they don't want to make versions of Urborg for WUR because of those kinds of effects.
coarse hearth
well this isn’t urborg, this is blood moon
bleak delta
That and Boil are the two cards that make me think it's not real. Maro has said ...
I believe that was Aaron forsythe who said that
patent tartan
Pretty sure Mark's also said it on Tumblr
celest pier
[[#acid rain]]
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celest pier
Oh ok, not modern legal so Yavimaya is safe
old trench
That and Boil are the two cards that make me think it's not real. Maro has said ...
||The thing about an urborg/yavimaya is that they're 0 mana and pretty low-risk to play. A 1UU 2/2 isn't exactly either, especially when it's only against nonbasics||
bleak delta
native siren
okay, those are smart
coarse hearth
||we saw ulalek earlier, im so mad they put a colored cost on nulldrifter instead of colorless, i want to cascade cascade 7 for 3 mana so badly||
bleak delta
Yeah I just figured this was more readable
inner canopy
||a tad convenient that most of the identifiers are cut off for this card||
tired plaza
I am 100% buying this Eldrazi deck
inner canopy
||also Nulldrifter appears to be main set||
bleak delta
My stance is to believe in their authenticity (provided there are no glaring errors) only as far as they entertain me but not to speculate with.
bleak delta
tired plaza
Oh neat, more uses for Storm Crow
patent tartan
Totally reasonable magic card that is in no way a problem
remote ledge
didn't we get some of those spoiled already?
I find myself remembering that wording
patent tartan
Yeah, they showed off I think the green one already
proper onyx
Oh good, just what everyone wanted
inner canopy
||Will of Force||
barren escarp
I made a joke about ||choke|| for one of the cards leaked yesterday, but now realise much greater potential with ||Carpet of Flowers||. The full range of fun tricks are probably quite diverse and will require looking into every old card that cares about those kinds of things
bleak delta
barren escarp
I remember that would be the new term for the mechanic/card type but use the more clunky term they tried for the creature type matters meaning for deck building purposes
it just took until now to reprint or make any new cards with the type
old trench
Watch as they still don't update gatherer with it
barren escarp
even WOTC staff don't use Gatherer anymore. They're all pretty open that they use Scryfall
bleak delta
patent tartan
Holy moly. Those are some reprints
proper onyx
Also "fixed" necro
remote ledge
holy moly Kappa coming to Arena? I might be in love
proper onyx
"We're not worried about show and tell because we know we are bringing worse to timeless" ~WotC
inner canopy
watch those other two just be their last printings to fake people out
very convenient that you can only see the name
remote ledge
I wonder if Necrodominance is a cycle :V
proper onyx
What would be the rest of the cycle?
remote ledge
powerful mono color enchantments given a spit shine?
patent tartan
What's a famously busted enchantment that'd probably be fine if put into Modern with a little fix?
inner canopy
[[Mystic Remora]]?
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Enchantment
Cumulative upkeep 
(At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost for each age counter on it.)
Whenever an opponent casts a noncreature spell, you may draw a card unless that player pays 
.
patent tartan
I could maybe see it. Land Tax for Plains is something else I could see
patent tartan
Sneak Attack I could see.
inner canopy
that just leaves Green
patent tartan
Aluren
bleak delta
Mix in a once per turn restriction and it’s maybe not broken
remote ledge
that just leaves Green
Sylvan Library?
patent tartan
This new Necro is better than the old one, so the new enchantments have to be better than the old ones. Sylvan Library is Too Good already.
remote ledge
it could be similar but different enough to not be too good
barren escarp
there's a lot of old weird enchantments in green that don't really make too much sense in the modern colour pie, so there's a few I can imagine they change to keep the spirit of the older cards but with a modern sensability
remote ledge
wait, whats the green one that you sac a creature to draw cards equal to power?
inner canopy
Food Chain?
patent tartan
Greater Good
remote ledge
I think both do that but I was thinking of GG cuz of the cheeta art
patent tartan
Food Chain is mana. I could see that.
barren escarp
inner canopy
greater good is already modern legal
patent tartan
Food Chain makes mana
patent tartan
[[Food Chain]]
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patent tartan
I could easily see a Food Chain that makes multiple colours of mana
remote ledge
we DO have Squee >_> might as well go for broke in Timeless
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patent tartan
[[Eternal Scourge]]
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patent tartan
[[Torrent Elemental]]
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Creature — Elemental
Flying
Whenever Torrent Elemental attacks, tap all creatures defending player controls.
: Put Torrent Elemental from exile onto the battlefield tapped. Activate only as a sorcery.
3/5
coarse hearth
proper onyx
Oh, it's the demon that helped Edgar do the ritual
inner canopy
i was going to say, what kind of demon turns Angels into Vampires
bleak delta
remote ledge
So..huh...I guess MH3 has never cared about time lines, but Mirrodin defnietly doesn't exist anymore right?
bleak delta
Sorta yeah but MH3 is unstuck in time (like how we have flipwalkers).
proper onyx
Mirrodin mostly doesn't exist, yes
bleak delta
We have Zhalfir in the space that was new phyrexia that was mirrodin
inner canopy
what are the scribbles for
proper onyx
Looks like it's hiding a water mark?
old trench
I think it may be hiding a call to bring back Terese Nielsen
I think some of the leaks have been filtered through r/freemagic
inner canopy
gross
proper onyx
I went to the sewer, that is what happened
inner canopy
i was wondering why this latest batch wasn't on the main subreddit
inner canopy
||Tarmogoyf But With Trample And Myriad 2G||
||Creature - Lhurgoyf||
||Trample, myriad||
||Tarmogoyf But With Trample And Myriad’s power is equal to the number of card types among cards in all graveyards and its toughness is equal to that number plus 1.||
||star/star+1||
old trench
||the fact the prefix got cut off in both instances is so funny I wanna think it's intentional||
inner canopy
oh its very much intentional
just like the reprints where literally all that we see is the name
patent tartan
There was another leak like the Kappa Cannoneer one that makes me think that this entire thing is a load of bull
inner canopy
its possible that one's in the Jeskai commander deck
Brainstorm was another "top centimeter of the card" leak as well
but until then i'll put on my skepticles
old trench
I could maybe see it being in a precon, but it feels like a bit of a trap to include if the deck isn't built to shuffle/mill the top cards
patent tartan
Yeah, it was Brainstorm. There's almost no chance that's getting put into Modern
barren escarp
It did seem like a lot of these leaks were from commander decks rather than the main set
prime mountain
It's either putting commander cards behind main set cards to drive hype, or it's grabbing random ass cards from existing sets to pretend they're in MH3
inner canopy
maybe it is legit but i have no reason to expect it is
old trench
Which they did explicitly do with cannoneer, lol
barren escarp
It also raises questions as why a set made specifically for one format, would then have an extra product full of stuff not playable in that format the main set is named after
inner canopy
i've seen that argument elsewhere
patent tartan
Thing is, I could believe some of the reprints. Like Sylvan Safekeeper and Kappa both seem like they'd be fine for Modern.
barren escarp
Kappa is still a pretty big deal in legacy, but with Seat of the Synod and Mox Opal banned and Ancient Tomb not being in the format then the Blue Artifact deck can't be replicated exactly. Basically every other card beyond those and Kappa are currently modern legal though
no wait, forgot Lotus Petal. They probably don't want to make that modern legal anytime soon either. Give Modern all the big powerful stuff, just don't give it any of the fast mana
old trench
Basically they just kinda hadn't thought it through in that lens
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/743209166574960640/are-the-cards-in-the-modern-horizons-commander
inner canopy
old trench
lol
prime mountain
How come Lhurgoyfs get all the love. Where's my Homaried Kindred love, Mark!
old trench
[[baba lysaga]] eating good
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Legendary Creature — Human Warlock
, Sacrifice up to three permanents: If there were three or more card types among the sacrificed permanents, each opponent loses 3 life, you gain 3 life, and you draw three cards.
Better the cold night than her warm hospitality.
3/3
barren escarp
I like how it gives +2/+2 to the tokens in the grave itself
inner canopy
i wonder if all 7 jund goyfs will be reprinted in that deck
probably not [[Detritivore]]
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Creature — Lhurgoyf
Detritivore's power and toughness are each equal to the number of nonbasic land cards in your opponents' graveyards.
Suspend X—
. X can't be 0. (Rather than cast this card from your hand, you may pay and exile it with X time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, you may cast it without paying its mana cost. It has haste.)
Whenever a time counter is removed from Detritivore while it's exiled, destroy target nonbasic land.
*/*
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Creature — Lhurgoyf
Haste (This creature can attack and as soon as it comes under your control.)
Magnivore's power and toughness are each equal to the number of sorcery cards in all graveyards.
*/*
patent tartan
No, they should put Detrivore in the deck
old trench
I could see [[necrogoyf]]
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Creature — Lhurgoyf
Necrogoyf's power is equal to the number of creature cards in all graveyards.
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player discards a card.
Madness 
(If you discard this card, discard it into exile. When you do, cast it for its madness cost or put it into your graveyard.)
*/4
inner canopy
yeah the green and black ones are probably safe
old trench
The rest I feel like are just too weak? But idk, we did also get [[exalted angel]] in the disguise precon
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Creature — Angel
Flying
Whenever Exalted Angel deals damage, you gain that much life.
Morph 
(You may cast this card face down as a 2/2 creature for . Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.)
4/5
inner canopy
also its should be noted we have a token with a mana cost now
i know its technically not the first but its not a copy
patent tartan
Huh. Not even the cards that make Llanowar Elves tokens or similar do that, do they?
prime mountain
nope
inner canopy
Garth One-Eye comes dangerously close
you are casting a copy of one of the cards, and copies of permanent spells become tokens
prime mountain
Best I could offer you before now was that Kobolds of Kher Keep tokens had the same mana value as their original card
but no mana cost
inner canopy
well that's just a coincidence
prime mountain
Good point on Garth, I always forget Garth
the Shivan Dragon and Black Lotus copies definitely have the costs
inner canopy
Garth strictly is not "creating" the token they just resolve as tokens
native siren
copies of creature spells become tokens too that inherit all of their details
old trench
Finally, a part of this that walker tokens didn't get to first
inner canopy
i'm pretty sure renamed tokens existed before the walkers
old trench
Not predefined named tokens
All the other predefined tokens refer to creating them by the subtypes (Which is how academy manufactor "works")
Getting deja vu to a different set of leaks, Osgood is the only printed token with a mana cost so far
(we did get some printed squad tokens in the 40k decks, which should have costs, but none of them were printed with one)
I'm curious if they'll use the same tech as her, or if they'll just straight up give us something that looks like a tarmogoyf if you don't check the typeline
inner canopy
you know what's funny
oh wait nm
the myriad lhurgoyf has trample so my joke doesn't work
old trench
Oh yeah there's also a leaked token from bloomburrow that uses the osgood tech
remote ledge
ah yeah, that tokens is what made me put "Squad variant" in my bingo sheet for Bloomburrow
inner canopy
remote ledge
oh wow, thats pretty nasty
stuck rivet
it's only your GY so it'll be smaller than tarmo
inner canopy
well yeah its 1 mana
barren escarp
Oh good, black doesn't have enough overpowered 1 mana creatures that can come back from the graveyard
old trench
Turn 1 fetch thoughtsieze bauble, turn 2 play two 3/4s
... Then the opponent topdecks [[pest control]]
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Sorcery
Destroy all nonland permanents with mana value 1 or less.
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
"How dare these varmints befoul the shining streets of Prosperity?" —Baron Bertram Graywater
remote ledge
or just RiP and you now have 2 0/1's
patent tartan
Gods I hate Pest Control
remote ledge
I unrionically love it, but I had my face beaten in by a lot of convoke decks so I might be biased
plus it could be worse, it could exile
patent tartan
Whereas I love Convoke
bleak delta
I love this land
Also ||spawn gang commander reminds me of seige gang||
Flinging Eldrazi sounds fun
Comments say the crop rotation has a DMR code so it’s another fake amongst the real cards
barren escarp
that land seems fun though I do start to worry by what point my artifact decks will be mostly utility lands
I'm trying to think what the most expensive thing in the deck is which doesn't already have it's own cost reduction built in, which is probably Chaos Defiler, but even getting that down to 2 mana with a load of tokens and baubles seems good
bleak delta
New art and better visual of the mana cost
bleak delta
patent tartan
That would be a main set card, not a deck card
old trench
Usually exiling cards from your library specifies that you exile that many cards from the top, too.
bleak delta
what does "concept Eldrazi" even mean
This has been officially previewed
Much like the praetor got
inner canopy
gotcha
bleak delta
old trench
This leaker is being swallowed by the eldrazi as we speak
bleak delta
I think these are different people now
old trench
(referring to the weird image fuckery on those first four)
bleak delta
At least it’s destroy not exile
coarse hearth
its still functionally exile!
bleak delta
You get the death triggers
patent tartan
Yeah, I think because Modal spells resolve in order, this is functionally Exile Everything like Farewell. Not getting Death Triggers wasn't the problem with Farewell. It's the cost and fexibility and freedom that are the problems with it, and this spell mimics that
coarse hearth
at least its in black where youd rather run damnation or deluge for cheaper cost and its not nearly as flexible and widespread as farewell
but still. awful.
stop making em pls
old trench
Not getting around indestructible & not hitting more relevant permanent types is the more relevant part
bleak delta
Huh, when I hear people talk about disliking farewell I usually hear the problem being that it’s so broad with little cost to getting rid of everything because you can’t get value from the death triggers and there not protection from it.
coarse hearth
no i despise the damn thing because it removes everything permanently with no chance of recovery
it removes a resource on top of whats on board for no cost
patent tartan
Death Triggers don't come up often enough for them to matter.
Farewell is just too good at being a catch all answer to anything while still potentially keeping you ahead for a cost that is absolutely not high enough
coarse hearth
i care about them in just the one deck of mine (aristocrats)
bleak delta
Love this art
inner canopy
so is every Goyf just Tarmogoyf now?
patent tartan
Seems like it. So the Jund deck is Goyfs and not Lands?
patent tartan
Huh. Totally thought it was a Lands deck
So it's Eldrazi, Self-Mill, Energy and Clones?
inner canopy
but yeah, looks like the lead commander is the Goyf commander
patent tartan
That's kinda neat
old trench
so is every Goyf just Tarmogoyf now?
For the purposes of easily tracking stuff in this deck, I imagine so
Which I guess puts a potential damper on them reprinting [[necrogoyf]] in the commander decks, since that tracks something else unique
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Creature — Lhurgoyf
Necrogoyf's power is equal to the number of creature cards in all graveyards.
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player discards a card.
Madness (If you discard this card, discard it into exile. When you do, cast it for its madness cost or put it into your graveyard.)
*/4
remote ledge
they standarized the goyfs to be able to amke cylces and throw in other abilities
tired plaza
Probably more "Cease and Desist or we will sue you"
old trench
Definitely feels like they're paraphrasing some messages they received
inner canopy
public announcement as well as officially revealing some of them
and some new ones
stuck rivet
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/the-modern-horizons-3-leaks-null...
Article seems to have been deleted
barren narwhal
Well we're in for a bumpy ride
Seemingly the ones from the article are on scryfall
proper onyx
I think it got taken down for technical issues
tired plaza
Yeah, I couldn't get half the cards to load
Wight of the Reliquary is one I hadn't seen but want to play for at least Meren
bleak delta
I think it got taken down for technical issues
If my technical knowledge is to be trusted (don’t), the way card images are done now is with multiple requests to their server rather than being baked into the article itself and if an article contains a dozen or more images and a thousand more people open it in a show amount of time then that’s a lot of system requests (maybe enough to break something).
Even first look articles up to this point haven’t had so many card images.
barren escarp
Why does Urza have a cave? It’s a good cave, I’ll give him that, it just doesn’t really feel like his style
bleak delta
It’s deep in his mine
bleak delta
Some of the Eldrazi ones we’ve seen but these are more legible. Didn’t post the Eldrazi reprints.
tired plaza
Drafting this set is going to be really entertaining
coarse hearth
i dont know whether i want to buy the eldrazi precon and dismantle it or buy the just parts
depends on cost ig
i think they were cringe for making the eldrazi lean 5c in this set and giving the main set ones colored costs in the textbox but. thats fine ig
remote ledge
isin't...isin't that the point of Devoid?
coarse hearth
yeah. not super a fan i think they should have kept them colorless mostly
i understand why they didnt but it irks me
bleak delta
Just wanted to say that it’s safe to assume this leak is fake considering it’s using the same art of a Planechase plane
Pretty sure the set symbol is wrong too but it’s really hard to see
(Other leaks in this style have been real though so I thought it worth bringing up)
barren narwhal
What scares me about all this eldrazi support makes it feel like tron just gets to be more busted
remote ledge
pretty sure they said they wouldn't make the other versions :V
coarse hearth
yeah lmao no shot that one means anything
bleak delta
I’ve never seen that said for this cycle just the urborg lands. I don’t imagine it would though since the space isn’t exactly healthy or robust.
remote ledge
its mostly that
Gaea's, Sanctum, Tolarian
are all really really really strong, silly strong even
no need to try and increase that
coarse hearth
aside from torpor
torpor vessel might be fake
proper onyx
That looks very not magic art
bleak delta
That one wasn’t included in the bigger drops. It looked real enough that I thought I should have just posted it but I probably should have done it separately.
patent tartan
It looks like Magic art, just not art that'd be on an artifact.
royal valley
Did it get a...tron more busted?
remote ledge
its a tron land fixing, but its on the commander set
so it doesn't sneak into modern tron, only into vintage/legacy tron
royal valley
(I was making a terrible joke on tron/ton, and failed 😛 )
wanton sentinel
Wight of the Reliquary is one I hadn't seen but want to play for at least Meren
I was looking at that one for Abzan Depths decks.
inner canopy
||Thunder Peak(?)||
||Land - Mountain Forest||
||As ~ enters, you may pay {E}{E}. If you don't, it enters tapped.||
||They say that lightning is the ... Serra ... , and thunder ... of angels."||
||-Lyra Dawnbringer||
proper onyx
I can both see this being a real card but also the amount of blurring suggest it's fake
inner canopy
I can't make out the number super clearly but this would fit between 229 and 233
this could realistically be 230 or 232
tired plaza
How is it possible for people to get pictures that are so bad
It's 2024, the cell phone that I'm writing this message on gets better quality pictures than half the dslrs that I use in photography class
patent tartan
You'd be surprised. I've never been able to take a decent looking photo with anything. I seem to turn every camera into a potato
proper onyx
I mean, there's not being able to take a good photo, and them there's taking a photo during an earthquake with a prototype of the first camera phone
bleak delta
proper onyx
That one is fake
bleak delta
Ah, apparently the art is real just not for magic
Honestly they did a pretty good jobs for this one
old trench
The text is also wrong, sadly - it'd be "the amount of E paid this way".
inner canopy
energy land confirmed fake anyway
remote ledge
thats good right?
old trench
Yeah cuz the card seemed kinda bad
remote ledge
So Reddit is wondering if the [[Nesting Grounds]] leak is real and I wanna figure out what the best thing to do with this lol
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Land
: Add 
.
, : Move a counter from target permanent you control onto another target permanent. Activate only as a sorcery.
Dappled coats become armored hides. Soft jaws become razor tusks. Nestling play becomes the fight for survival.
royal valley
that seems unlikely to me
patent tartan
I don't think there's anything you can do with it in Modern that's Good enough
remote ledge
somebody mentioned using it to turn Urza's Saga into a Karnstruc factory
patent tartan
Yeah, that's a thing you could do
edgy fjord
That takes 5 mana every turn though
native siren
there's a new deluge of leaks on Reddit
inner canopy
|| https://www.reddit.com/r/MTGRumors/comments/1cpyjx1/modern_horizon_3_leaks_from_other_reddit_groups/ ||
here's a bunch of them collected
royal valley
that knight seems fucking bonkers
patent tartan
It's pretty dang good.
barren escarp
It’s good but it does continue one of the complaints I’ve had ||that every call back to a popular white human card seems to involve killing them. First we had champion of the parish into champion of the perished, then knight into the reliquary into Wight of the Reliquary and now this evolution of Knight of the White Orchid. This one doesn’t even have a clever pun with the name of it||
remote ledge
It’s good but it does continue one of the complaints I’ve had ||that every call ...
yeah 1 is inspired,2 is funny, third is just "This worked before I dont wanna think too hard"
stuck rivet
That ||goblin that sacs creatures for treasure|| is Not Okay
coarse hearth
its yawgmoth but nonlegendary and for mana
proper onyx
That ||goblin that sacs creatures for treasure|| is Not Okay
Don't worry, it only goes infinite with gravecralwer and a blood artist effect
coarse hearth
more leaks
proper onyx
||divination with set brainstorm mechanics||
bleak delta
Aluren
Also these but the kitty is mine
That’s probably the scariest type line in all of magic
old trench
Mycospawn yet another massive banger for highlander
[[reap and sow]] but it can't be countered
fast geyserBOT
Sorcery
Choose one —
• Destroy target land.
• Search your library for a land card, put that card onto the battlefield, then shuffle.
Entwine 
(Choose both if you pay the entwine cost.)
stuck rivet
Also these but the kitty is mine
I am going to do Not Okay things with the first two in this post
I shall become ungovernable
bleak delta
bleak delta
bleak delta
||Seems the rest of the cycle isn’t cost reduction||
remote ledge
|| another 4/4 for 0 :V ||
bleak delta
Ok, this is what makes energy doable for me
bleak delta
Honestly this seems absurd
remote ledge
Honestly this seems absurd
|| this is just fixed Field right? ||
bleak delta
||Field plus dakmor salvage||
remote ledge
|| unironically this feels like an arena plant ||
royal valley
why does this have that last line of text
bleak delta
Wouldn’t really be a legendary creature with just the first ability (endearing)
quick hamlet
topaz remnant
This one somewhat worries me. there is enough good energy generation(especially with that new ||soul sister||) that this does the same as ||alluren|| and kills the turn it comes into play
bleak delta
It would certainly have more pieces needed to combo and one of the key pieces from old combos isn’t modern legal (yet).
Not sure if there’s a substitute and if there was it would probably be worse
knotty edge
This one somewhat worries me. there is enough good energy generation(especially ...
Inexorable Tide go brrr
bleak delta
The last two are nuts (for me)
knotty edge
Holy bus, how much of this set has been leaked?!?!
knotty edge
Also, a note on that 2nd card: ||Umbra armor|| is the errata of Totem armor, just like Kindred is the errata of Tribal.
knotty edge
Honestly this seems absurd
Well, I know what my next EDH deck is gonna be
supple peak
I guess I’m gonna be able to make an alt swap for my Lord Windgrace deck
Also Ashling is gonna go in my Urabrask deck
quick hamlet
why red background
royal valley
The last two are nuts (for me)
The art for that umbra is....a little difficult to believe it made it through the process
supple peak
This goes so hard
I'm excited for that rakdos artifacts dude as well
finally, someone that isn't just Mishra again
bleak delta
The art for that umbra is....a little difficult to believe it made it through th...
There’s always the caveat that any number of these could be fake. I wouldn’t necessarily say that one looks fake but I’m not really vetting these beyond a cursory look.
royal valley
oh, understood, but their are sections of the internet that may over-enjoy that, I suspect
quick hamlet
coming off the set with ajani i guess
tired plaza
Holy hell, Evo Wit there needs to get in to my Mothman deck yesterday
bleak delta
It’s going into Lonis too. Sure it’s only permanent but I can work with that.
knotty edge
So, are we also gonna get ||Wrenn||?
tired plaza
The weirdest partner pair ever
barren narwhal
A flipwalker wrenn would be neat
Why does it feel like they didn't learn anything from the mh2 debacle?
royal valley
debacle?
quiet burrow
what debacle?
patent tartan
Well dang. I do so love a called shot
bleak delta
Well that’s the last one
patent tartan
Oh gods
quick hamlet
Why do they still try with pitch cards
bleak delta
It’s (some of) the player base’s guilty pleasure
celest pier
Because they're good for high power formats by giving interaction when otherwise not possible
They did a bad job with Grief and Fury specifically being too good, but every other MH pitch card has either been good but fair to outright awful (force of rage I'm looking at you)
bleak delta
There’s something to be said for reactive pitch spells (the old argument that force of will makes formats fairer - please don’t ping me to argue, I’m not interested in doing that again).
quick hamlet
to be fair i definitely take the cynical communist pov and see all the mh pitch cards as just staple money bags
barren escarp
Yeah, even the worst of the MH2 elemental incarnations is still a very good card
celest pier
These pitch cards all seem really bad tbh (for competitive formats anyways)
[[$force of vigor]]
fast geyserBOT
patent tartan
I don't think they should be underestimated at all. If anything, I feel like Flare of Denial is the final nail in the coffin for Twin ever getting unbanned.
quiet burrow
Death, taxes, and twin being banned
prime mountain
this new cycle do have real costs, you have to trade a full card for the price, and it's a card you've spent resource on already since it's on the field
but also free spells basically always good
celest pier
Flare of Denial has very specific decks it benefits
Flare of Cultivation is a Nic Fit care in legacy, will likely see no play outside of commander otherwise
The white one is a commander card purely, had it included "can't lose the game this turn" it's a potent anti-combo card but eh
Malice might be okay in a Gravecrawler deck
Flare of Duplication? Idk I can see it being fine in specific circumstances
prime mountain
I am deffo excited to see if Cultivation makes Nic Fit reliable neough
celest pier
Denial in Merfolk will be interesting to see
Hate the deck with every fiber of my being, but modern desperately needs at least one Vial deck that's good
proper onyx
Well that’s the last one
Just what edh needed. 
knotty edge
||Seems the rest of the cycle isn’t cost reduction||
Official spoilers from the story article today confirmed Devourer of Destiny.
crimson lagoon
This is very nuts
Absolutely. My Kethis deck is very happy.
crimson lagoon
Well that’s the last one
Welcome to every white deck in edh...
crimson lagoon
this new cycle do have _real_ costs, you have to trade a full card for the price...
Honestly this pitch cycle looks good. Like not busted OP good. But like nice interaction option good.
This white pitch spell is great in edh, where you might lose more than one thing (like taking 10+ damage, or a wrath)
crimson lagoon
New spoiled thing: ||Mdfc Lands||
||A two color one that etb tapped. Two monocolor ones that have the mythic ones Bolt-untap clause||
proper onyx
I wish ||they didn't have thr bolt clause||
supple peak
I wish more lands just came in tapped
crimson lagoon
Same.
||Two color mdfc lands are nice. I am sad the one we see is a tutor. Sad edh noises||
celest pier
||the bolt lands are ridiculous this time around||
patent tartan
||Well they were all unplayable garbage last time, so I guess they decided they needed to be better||
crimson lagoon
||A goblin that etb Bojuka Bogs, I bet legacy goblins might splash black||
crimson lagoon
||Well they were all unplayable garbage last time, so I guess they decided they ...
Ya. So many of them were limited trash chaff.
Always my biggest gripe with something new, when 8/10 or 9/10 of the cards with the new mechanic are just for limited
patent tartan
I'm pretty down on those cards in general, but that cycle specifically has always just been so, so bad.There's 1 that I would even remotely consider playing, and that's in Commander. They're all just the worst versions of already existing cards that have a lot of redundancy. The flexibility with them just isn't worth it
celest pier
||they basically only existed to give lands to oops all spells||
supple peak
Basically my opinion these days is that EDH players had better start playing more basics or I’m going to Blood Moon them for their life’s savings and they’re gonna deserve it
Punisher cards are good, actually
patent tartan
I agree. But I've also always been pretty high on playing a lot of basics. I put Field of the Dead in every list I brew, and I still play 20ish basics in everything below 4 colours. My 5 colour deck still plays 10 of them
crimson lagoon
||they basically only existed to give lands to oops all spells||
Ya. Thats overall not a healthy deck for them to bolster honestly
patent tartan
Could we unban Buried Alive for like, a month in Modern? #
celest pier
Ya. Thats overall not a healthy deck for them to bolster honestly
||Exactly and now they give them a bounce spell??????? do not like||
crimson lagoon
Basically my opinion these days is that EDH players had better start playing mor...
Ive been rocking so few basics. I have two decks with no basics.
The frequency with which the punishing happens is not worth running more. The frequency of color screw or running out of action is way higher
proper onyx
||Well they were all unplayable garbage last time, so I guess they decided they ...
I think each color had at least one playable non mythic mdfc. I think at least half are playable
patent tartan
I was specifically talking about the Mythics there, but frankly even the non-mthics are a waste of paper IMO. They're all just deeply mediocre.
proper onyx
Well, going to have to disagree there
patent tartan
I honestly look forward to the day I don't have to play Pathways in Pioneer
proper onyx
(I'm also talking from an edh perspective)
patent tartan
In Commander there's exactly 1 even remotely playable Zendikar MDFC: Agadeem Awakening. I wouldn't waste a card slot in my decks for any of the others.
patent tartan
The red one is the one I hate most. I play a lot of red. It's been in lists I've played. It's done nothing but lose me games
crimson lagoon
In Commander there's exactly 1 even remotely playable Zendikar MDFC: Agadeem Awa...
Malakir Rebirth and Bala Ged Recovery are excellent!
Glasspool is good in creature heavy decks. Fling is solid for effect density on lands
I enjoy them with future sight effects and Bolas Citadel density
Oh and Tangled Florahedron is underrated. I love it for hitting 4 drops on T3. Its either a land or your T2 accelerator
Most of the white mdfc lands are mediocre
patent tartan
Tangled Florahedron is either a bad tap land, or an overcosted mana dork. And given that I cannot remember the last time I sleeved up a mana dork in Commander, it's safe to say I have no interest in play bad ones. Commander as a format has access to the very best of these effects. I'm not going to waste a spell slot in my deck on cards that are worse just because they have rarely useful flexibility. And wasting my land slots of these is an even worse idea.
crimson lagoon
Cards that serve multiple roles are good.
My Ingasika and Yasharn decks both want to hit a 4 drop on 3 and it helps deliver both.
Its not good in every deck. Im okay with that. I think its really reductive to say that only 1 mdfc land is playable.
Other folks clearly value the utility more than you do, that doesn't make them bad.
supple peak
I think 9 times out of 10 an untapped land or a decently costed spell is better than a single card that can do both but is immeasurably worse
Also I am of the opinion that MDFCs are coward cards. Commit to your picks.
supple peak
Ive been rocking so few basics. I have two decks with no basics.
The frequency ...
Your playgroups don’t play enough price of progress tbh
remote ledge
bugsbunny.gif No
supple peak
Also. The more that lands get better the less bad I feel about Armageddon as a card
Yes, I have destroyed your hundred dollar land base you ramped into on turn 4.
Cry about it?
People who get greedy deserve to be punished. I’m the greediest Magic player alive and even I know that.
patent tartan
Armageddon doesn't punish greedy players IMO. It punishes green decks doing what they do best, but that's not really punishing greedy players.
supple peak
I would partially agree
But with how pushed green has been it ends up basically being the same thing
patent tartan
Greed is not playing a single basic in your deck because you want to get full value out of Hermit Druid.
supple peak
Armageddon was just me using the archetypal example, to be clear. Ruination is the actual pick
And I have started playing it in more decks specifically to dumpster 4 and 5 color players
remote ledge
problem is, if somebody lays down a bunch of rocks or treasure, your armageddon suddenly becomes your losing condition
patent tartan
The lesson of what? Wanting to be able to cast your spells in a 5 colour deck?
supple peak
In the case of most 5 color decks I’ve sat down across from, legitimately yes
Jodah the Unifier gets no rights
The lesson is that sometimes when you get greedy you get punished. And that that is a fair thing to do
patent tartan
That's a problem with Jodah being a busted, miserable card, not 5 colour decks in general. If a 5c deck chooses not to play any basics at all, then that could be considered greedy, especially given how good at fixing Rampant Growth et al are, but it's not greedy to want to be able to cast your spells.
crimson lagoon
Your playgroups don’t play enough price of progress tbh
I was the one who ran ruination and pop and blood moon.
supple peak
Then your playgroup didn’t need the lesson
crimson lagoon
Also I am of the opinion that MDFCs are coward cards. Commit to your picks.
Naw, this is like running a slightly more expensive broader card over deciding between two narrow ones.
Generous Gift sees loads of play and is a Path vs Disenchant decision. You run a worse rate card that does both.
Applying it to lands is no different.
supple peak
I think it’s very different. I think manipulation of land and spell ratios is the hallmark of good deck building and that trivialising that by making some cards both unconditionally is a cop-out
People should have to commit
crimson lagoon
Disliking that it provides utility is different from the cards being bad.
I think 3 life is a low cost for edh.
But the etb tapped, and +1 manacost on spellside is a pretty meaningful cost.
Like I think they made some of them just good enough to be a tricky decision of if they're worth running.
bleak delta
supple peak
this is gas
proper onyx
I wish it didn't say may
bleak delta
We live in a world of bowmasters, sheoldreds, and hullbreachers
Also the old adage of turn 1 wheel being a way to win the game
coarse hearth
like wheeling is almost always advantageous for basically everyone but i hate it if im on 5 cards or even 4 good ones! let me plan my turns out!
supple peak
no 😌
crimson lagoon
Wheels are too easy to break the symmetry.
old trench
Also it says "may" because you can pay 0 energy
coarse hearth
well the may we’re talking about is the second one, each player “may” exile their hand
supple peak
if it wasn't a may then they would have formatted it to be "you may pay one or more {E}"
They would have balanced it
coarse hearth
And what would happen if you paid 0 energy, and it wasn't a "may" to exile
ah yes youre right i misread the card
bleak delta
barren narwhal
||that seems almost sensible? Elvish piper + a future sight. Pushed but seems not too broken? Nostalgic character too which is neat. ||
bleak delta
I said it reminds me of ||Belbe’s portal (as is in the background) and cryptic gateway.||
crimson lagoon
Wow this is NUTS.
||3 mana 3/3 that's a Vizier of Men, but also has a cheat in ability! This will easily fit into my Ingasika and Kethis decks. Kethis likes seeing new playable elves as I constantly think about cutting Marwyn.||
bleak delta
proper onyx
The ||medallions|| have alt art?
bleak delta
Seems so
tired plaza
Cool!
bleak delta
I don’t see sapphire but emerald looks the coolest of the bunch ironically
bleak delta
Yeah, his cards pretty cool
supple peak
Oh shit, Uncle Istvan?
barren narwhal
Some deep cuts there
native siren
fun trivia: "Istvan" is hungarian for "Steven"
barren narwhal
Why is this set getting leaked so bad?
proper onyx
🤷♂️
native siren
for the 2 minutes of fame the leaker gets / to get the early "big money" cards that turn up eventually
supple peak
anyways good to see Laelia getting so many reprints because I love her
we love aggressively costed women with haste
quick hamlet
we love women
bleak delta
Oh shit, Uncle Istvan?
I feel like I’m missing something here
bleak delta
Why is this set getting leaked so bad?
I think it’s the nature of the distributor of the premature product
supple peak
I feel like I’m missing something here
Uncle Istvan is a black legendary creature who carries a shovel from a very old set who, after the formatting change, was no longer legendary and never got a reprint or a retrain
I have always been wanting a new one. He's blorbo blingus
bleak delta
Huh, now that I think about it, they put a label on that one but I do not remember what card that’s supposed to correspond to that we’ve seen
supple peak
so you're saying there's a chance
bleak delta
More so I’m wondering if the leaker knows something I don’t or made a mistake (or a “mistake”).
quiet burrow
I’m just happy ||Kaalia|| is back with new art. The Masters art she got wasn’t really my thing.
crimson lagoon
Looks like we're getting either a new ||Laelia, or current Laelia is entering modern||
bleak delta
We already know they’re reprinting the c21 one
bleak delta
supple peak
Silverquill Lecturer looks so fun
barren narwhal
patent tartan
Bauble is one messed up card
crystal monolith
The second line of text reduces the cost of inclusion close to zero, that's so lazy and ridiculous
barren narwhal
I mean that's one way to kneecap cascade and scam
crystal monolith
Force mirrors are going to be interesting though
barren narwhal
I live for the day burn is actually playable in modern again
tired plaza
I'd argue it never left, it's just not full Tier 1 like it used to be
bleak delta
patent tartan
Oh damn, I have to sell my Marvel QUICK
crimson lagoon
That turtle is sweet.
||3 drops that make 2 mana being frequent is nice. Inga+Esika might run over Troyan||
tired plaza
I am frantically watching for pre-orders of these to go up at the LGS I like. I want that Eldrazi deck
