#Star Trek SNW s2e10

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red shuttle
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Hegemony

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Heeey Scotty !

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We didn't see him too much but the actor was pretty good with it

acoustic cave
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Hell of a cliffhanger. Can't wait for next wee- Looks at episode number THEY CAN'T DO THIS TO US

red shuttle
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They just did 😭

ocean harness
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How rude

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Scotty was great though

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much closer to Doohan than Pegg, thankfully

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Ahh, he's actually Scottish. That helps

gleaming owl
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Much prefer this Scotty to Pegg (who imo completely didn't fit)

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But damn a cliffhanger

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At least season 3 is greenlit right...

red shuttle
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quite a few shot referencing Alien/s in that episode

ember shoal
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Well... hope no-one else woke up on that saucer section...

gleaming owl
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It's fine the character with canon armour made it out

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I don't reckon much for Marie's chances though....

gray surge
jagged cradle
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the second I heard the accent I knew

red shuttle
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same

jagged cradle
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damn, Pike, hesitating? pull a Riker 'Open Fire'

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that is quite a cliffhanger but I do appreciate them finishing the initial episode plot, as in shutting down the jammer, getting spock and chapel and the captains back on board. it wasn't all setup and spinning of wheels

ember shoal
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As Jessie points out, Pike is more a diplomat than a military leader (unlike Kirk)

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Question: don't each race tend to have their own transporter effects? Was the transporter that got those on the ground the same as Enterprises or different?

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If the same, then either the Gorn have the same transporters... or some other Federation ship got them?

jagged cradle
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they specifically said it wasn't a federation signature for the transporter

gray surge
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I just don't want Mrs. MacMurray to die, she's been really interesting this season rather than just a social accessory to Pike

coarse ivy
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But yeah, Pike's "character flaw" is that he's too much of a boy scout and hesitates when more... aggressive negotiations are called for, compared to the likes of Kirk or Riker.

acoustic cave
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Which was also on display in last season's finale

coarse ivy
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Yeah, and I guess they're going to play into it again. Which I... have mixed feelings about.

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I love a good character exploration; but we also know his fate and we know how Kirk is necessary to save the galaxy twelve dozen times. Do we really need to rub it into Pike's face?

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Can't he have a little win in his own season finale, as a treat?

subtle tusk
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I like how they are slowly introducing the TOS characters instead of just throwing them all there the second the Enterprise showed up in DIscovery, just minus Spock

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we've had a chance to get used to Uhura, Kirk, etc

subtle tusk
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also, the adult Gorn in the space suit might be up there for one of the scariest 'first impression' Star Trek villains to date. Realizing that it's fucking around with the access panel and trying to unlock the computer and it's not just an animal? that was great

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obviously the Borg are way up there with their casual 'slice a chunk out of the 1701-D' but they were hampered slightly by a mildly goofy well lit interior. Species 8472 had the 'smart but alien looking' vibe but the CGI wasn't quite there.

spiral shell
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Like, imagine TOS, but the untold missions, with just a couple of retellings

subtle tusk
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I wouldn't mind that, I think

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all the new cast that have enough screen time seem up for it

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but tbh i'd rather see them go somewhere else to tell new stories. there are lots of ships and lots of untouched eras in their history

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the NX-2000 Excelsior, the original Stargazer, or the Enterprise-C would be great if we're retreading semi-known ground

spiral shell
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Sure, but three seasons out of a “five year journey”

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I feel like more TOS stories with this cast would be great

subtle tusk
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I also hope the Discovery team is taking notes from the SNW team and tones the universe-ending apocalypses down a bit

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do some weird hard sci-fi stuff. discover mysterious obelisks. leave the galaxy. look at strange plants. you know, the works!

gusty torrent
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IDK, Doohan had a distinctively bad accent, whereas this Scotty, on account of having a Scottish actor, actually sounds Scottish 🤣

He's a good physical likeness for early Doohan though, and it'll be interesting to see how they develop his character

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(granted he still doesn't sound like he's from Aberdeen, but I could imagine the network execs thinking that would be unintelligible for large parts of the audience, and we can imagine that accents have homogenised a little bit)

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gusty torrent
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It's certainly not in the top 10 things which aged poorly from TOS

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stares pointedly at everything about McCoy's character

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||Who would have known that a xenophobic 'good old boy' from 60s Georgia would be a problem||

red shuttle
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if we ever have a time travel thing and they need an older Scotty they can just ask Bruce Campbell

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acoustic cave
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But how sketchy is his Scottish accent?

autumn pond
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Watching the Ready Room for this episode. I'm so impressed the adult gorn was a stuntman in an incredibly heavy costume AND on wires. Both of those are a challenge alone, but at the same time? Wow.

jagged cradle
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Jesus Christ I thought that was Doohan for a moment

gray surge
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Holy crap, I recognize those cases. Those are either Dipsy Doodles or Cheez Waffies.

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Depending on how old that picture is also narrows it down.

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(Cheez Waffies were discontinued some time in the last ten years)

red shuttle
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jagged cradle
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oh I forgot the joke I wanted to make

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'this colony was based off the small town model because it was easy for us to find a location to film in'

patent plinth
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This might be a minor complaint

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But I feel like Scotty was kinda shoehorned into this episode

ocean harness
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IMO it's the best way to make Scotty show up. If he's just, suddenly, assigned to the Enterprise, and then suddenly starts doing things that make people around him go "huh, neat, you've really got a mind for this" then it's kinda bleh?

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Whereas this way, he turned up, using his skills to save his hide, and immediately started trying to use them to help everyone around him

gusty torrent
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I mean, either works for me

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This way, though, nothing needs to happen to Pelia

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Like, either you have him rise through the ranks having been thrown into things be circumstances (what they seem to be going for), or you have him assigned with a complete backstory and a distinguished service record

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I get the impression they'll do the latter for McCoy

patent plinth
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I do wish though that Scotty was at least part of Batel's ship

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Cause I'm having a hard time going from "I was researching solar flares" to "oh no the Gorn attacked us"

gusty torrent
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I'm guessing everyone realised that his was the shuttle we saw at the start

patent plinth
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Okay...

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That kinda makes sense

gusty torrent
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(i.e the one that crashed and someone asked "is that one of ours")

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The solar flares study just seems like as good a reason as any why he was in the neighborhood

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Not that it couldn't have been done as him being from Batel's ship, escaped with a load of crew, but then there's a question of why her ship had the mcguffin but the Enterprise didn't

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Yeah I haven't weighed in on the musical episode as I don't want to yuck people's yum

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subtle tusk
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I was thinking the same thing

jagged cradle
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I live near a small town that gets filmed in now and then, I've seen how that goes.

subtle tusk
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"oh, sure is convenient to have an entire prop city available for filmingi". I don't blame them though, it ultimately wasn't super important and meant they could save money on putting up fake space building facades that would just be hidden in the dark for most of the episode anyway

jagged cradle
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actually wait, I moved, is 30-40 minute drive still 'living near'?

subtle tusk
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🤷‍♂️

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I'd give you a pass if it's the closest larger thing you don't live in any more

jagged cradle
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now there's a larger town in between us now. I basically leapfrogged over the town I work in

subtle tusk
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well, you probably live closer to there than the rest of us so don't worry about it 😆

cloud needle
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so like, good episode (cliffhanger aside) but how does anyone hope to maintain a demarcation line that cuts through a solar system? Though I'm sure this isn't the first time it happened in Star Trek. (Also I get we had to have fight, but there is no way the best placement for the rocket was on the bridge)

gusty torrent
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I assumed that the diagram was inaccurate and they're actually off-axis, or a few lightyears further away just outside the planet's orbit

red shuttle
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they can travel faster than light, I'm sure they can find a way to have an accurate line even in this situation :p

coarse ivy
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I think the placement of the line was to taunt the Federation somewhat - they knew Starfleet would be sending rescue ships, so they drew the line in the sand where they could watch.

autumn pond
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I still kinda hope that they retcon the original TOS Gorn as an especially elderly late-stage in their life cycle.

spiral shell
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That would be kinda funny “oh yeah, Kirk killed one of ours 1 v 1 but that guy was ancient”

ember shoal
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"He was a monk, had taken a vow of silence"

jagged cradle
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"no you misunderstand, that wasn't a Gorn, that was Gorn. That's his name, he's just a guy who wears a lizard costume"

spiral shell
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It was Morn’s uncle, just really into cosplay

ember shoal
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"You're on Menton Camera!"

autumn pond
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A Q, a Metron, an Iconian, and a T'kon walk into a bar...

gusty torrent
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Which is a metaphor for...

ocean harness
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Discovered this today as my dad sent a photo of a plaque in linlithgow claiming his birthplace

gusty torrent
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To be fair, his accent didn't know where it was from either?

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That said, I'm not familiar with the accent in that area, and I'm assuming it's naïve to think it would be similar to the Edinburgh accent

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I have family from Glasgow, friends from Aberdeen, and you can hear Edinburgh a fair amount on TV and radio, but other than that I'm probably as familiar with other parts of Scotland as your average Outlander viewer

ocean harness
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Listen, I'm never gonna say Doohan's accent was good, but it's not awful by TV standards, particularly for the era

autumn pond
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Might it be fairly described as "once Scottish until surrounded by American accents for 20 years"?

gusty torrent
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I'd say that would describe Simon Pegg's attempt

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Although he seemed to think he'd done a good job, which...

hazy mulch
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Now THAT'S how you end a season

static rivet
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SNW is just a fantastic show period

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We're now two season down

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And it continues be banger after banger

static rivet
hazy mulch
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The long-term logistics of a demarcation line that cuts through a star system is unimportant in the context of this episode, because the conflict takes place over a few hours, and honestly was probably unimportant more broadly to the Gorn, who were hunting down and likely planning to abduct or kill the remaining humans on the planet, such that when the natural orbit of the planet carried it into Federation space, it would be empty anyway and thus of no more interest to the Gorn.

subtle tusk
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that seems perfectly reasonable as headcanon without having to invent any more complicated reasons

void hound
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Just got caught up, and wow.