#Phyrexian Leaks

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vague patio
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If it is just ||Nahiri doing stuff…lame.||

rigid stirrup
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It wasn't

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||It was there before nahiri||

amber moon
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It wasn't anything that lasted beyond the ZNR story

vague patio
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Nuts

amber moon
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I don't think we need to keep tagging Zendikar Rising

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What were you hoping it was?

vague patio
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I was hoping for some cool FFXIV style “sound from within the world, turning magic against its users”

amber moon
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I mean, it SORT OF was?

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Nahiri was the only person who could activate the Lithoform Engine

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so its not "her powers" inherently that did this

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i do not remember a lot about ZNR

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I'ma take this to #vorthos

amber moon
slim vapor
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Given the art is from official stories, and the names are mentioned in the stories, could they not be in #1052204990388781117 ?

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albeit, spoilered that they're the ||commanders||

amber moon
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the art could, yes

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but the fact that they are ||the commanders|| I think is still technically a spoiler

azure basin
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|| So with Lukka officially spoiled, would it be safe to bet that Nahiri is Boros? ||

dusk bison
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yeah

untold maple
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weird to have two R/X walkers

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but I guess they want to fill those 10 slots fast

dusk bison
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they dont have a monored one so it makes decent sense to me

azure basin
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|| While we know Wanda is safe, I feel proud that I called out the possibility of her compleation would lead to stabilisation of her spark ||

amber moon
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NEO had 3 Blue walkers

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I don't think color balancing walkers has ever been a thing

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in recent times

dusk bison
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it's based more on the standard environment than limited, but they know balancing it within a set is also something people like

dull tangle
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Honestly I think it depends more on which praetor(or lack thereof) the compleated walker leans towards

dusk bison
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well

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kinda?

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thats more or less just how the color pie works

dull tangle
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well yea but like they said on the stream ||Nissa isn't aligned with Vorinclex|| at all

dusk bison
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eh true

dull tangle
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Whereas we know from the Oxidized Exobody to the few things they've said ||Lukka serves Vorinclex||

untold maple
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|| I feel Lukka serves Vorinclex by default because of how he got compleated ||

ashen pendant
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oh nahiri plays really nicely with For Mirrodin!

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the token doesn't get haste but it's still 0: make a 2/2

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and dragonwing glider gives haste, there might be others that give haste

azure basin
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|| Now that the story is unfolding, I find it hilarious that Wanda is safe because of a technicality ||

vague patio
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||Half expect her to just show up out of nowhere to save the day because that’s just what she does.||

azure basin
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|| I am starting to believe your right @vague patio , at least in terms of preventing total calamity in the form of all of them being compleated ||

amber moon
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MaRo clues released

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||12 of them are leaks (Vraska doesn't count because she's official now)||

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||But 4 of them should be revealed day 1 because they are keyword/mechanic related||

velvet trench
dusk bison
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(cuz it sounds like youve looked through it all already and i dont wanna do it again)

amber moon
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revealed clues are:
||an ability word named corrupted ||
||a new Phyrexian Mite creature token with a keyword ability ||
||a new type of counter ||
||a reprint with Phyrexian in its name (other than Phyrexian Obliterator) ||
||a new keyword with an exclamation point in its name ||
||"Discard your hand, then draw four cards." ||
||"Players can’t cast noncreature spells from graveyard or exile." ||
||"it has all activated abilities of all land cards in all graveyards." ||
||"Search your library for a basic, Sphere, or Locus land card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle." ||
||Artifact Creature – Phyrexian Masticore ||
||Legendary Creature – Phyrexian Rat ||
||Legendary Creature – Phyrexian Elephant Wizard ||

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There are two others maybe that I didn't list here

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One is Vraska's ult which is officially revealed

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Another was from the original "foil" leaks before the rares dropped

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Its the one that ||deals 2 damage to a player every upkeep unless they control 2 or more basics||

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specific cards you'll have to ask me again or check Scryfall / MythicSpoiler

dusk bison
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thats what i meant, specific cards >.>

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i can dig through later if you dont have them on hand, no worries

amber moon
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I have all the scryfall links if you'd want those

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or ones for "examples"

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there's like 12 as well though

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I'll be doing my usual thing after the debut stream tomorrow

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I can copy the link here

dusk bison
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sure that sounds good

amber moon
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the mechanic clues will be cleared but there'll still be like 7 afterwards

summer oar
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there's a spanish Atraxa leak out - did we see that already?

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Atraxa, Grand Unifier - 3GWUB
Legendary Creature - Phyrexian Angel
Flying, vigilance, deathtouch, lifelink
When ~ enters the battlefield, reveal the top 10 cards of your library. For each card type, you may put one card of that type into your hand. Put the rest at the bottom of your library in any order. (the card types are Artifacts, Battle, Creature, Enchantment, Instant, Land, Planeswalker, Sorcery.)
Illus. Marta Nael 7/7

atraxagrandunifier.png
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"battle"

amber moon
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@dusk bison

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I was going to put the leaked Clues in my tracker but they have a new tag separating leak spoilers from official ones

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so here are my messy results of the still leaked ones:

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||"Players can’t cast noncreature spells from graveyard or exile." (Soulless Jailer, it also prevents permanents in graveyards from entering the battlefield)(https://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/b/f/bf9991fd-ea6a-4ed7-b5f1-46a95f8d0634.jpg?1673609874) ||
||"At the beginning of each player’s upkeep, CARDNAME deals 2 damage to that player unless they control two or more basic lands." (Furnace Punisher)(https://www.mythicspoiler.com/one/cards/furnacepunisher.jpg) ||
||"it has all activated abilities of all land cards in all graveyards." (Mirran Safehouse, an artifact that has these as long as it is on the battlefield)(https://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/d/7/d76fe2f2-ce2c-49e4-9f00-89c82f2fae8d.jpg?1673609966) ||
||"Search your library for a basic, Sphere, or Locus land card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle." (Monument to Perfection, can tutor for these with its first ability, then transform into a huge creature with its other ability once you have nine among them with different names)(https://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/a/b/ab892e7b-6797-4ede-ab5d-d9d0fa488c80.jpg?1673609971) ||
||Artifact Creature – Phyrexian Masticore (Argentum Masticore)(https://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/9/7/9746e3ab-c0a6-46c1-a418-275b419962e4.jpg?1673609964) ||
||Legendary Creature – Phyrexian Elephant Wizard (Malcator, Purity Overseer)(https://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/3/6/36bda977-e5d1-4813-a5f5-265023965142.jpg?1673610023) ||

dusk bison
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ty!

amber moon
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and then I just included them in the post anyway

summer oar
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Atraxa not being part of the "rare leaks" but still leaked will fill the comments

amber moon
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yep

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already addressed

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and removed from nonleak chat

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completely forgot that popped up

brisk heath
amber moon
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what does "tribal" translate to in spanish

brisk heath
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Tribal

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Just checked on scryfall

summer oar
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the second one - Tribal is no longer a "supported" card type, and those who play with that era will know

amber moon
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yeah did the same

summer oar
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but no need to include it for standard purposes

brisk heath
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Wouldve just thought if they put reminder text it would be all inclusive to avoid confusion(which is more tribals fault to be fair)

summer oar
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Also: The card types are artifact, conspiracy, creature, dungeon, enchantment, instant, land, phenomenon, plane, planeswalker, scheme, sorcery, tribal, and vanguard.

amber moon
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I wonder what it could mean

summer oar
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If we go for pedantry

amber moon
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||A variation on World Enchantment, perhaps?||

summer oar
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best guess is the Skirmish cards from WAR (linked the article)

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put out a battle, do Things to advance, if you win, get a Thing

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and we'll have Battle of Kamigawa, Battle of Ravnica, Battle of ....

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a bit similar to the Dungeons

brisk heath
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Seems like a headache to design a fully new card type for that. Feels like that could be done with an enchantment subtype.
I mean we havent had a new type since tribal came out in what 2007/8?
I‘m looking forward to it&am very curious

summer oar
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Planeswalker was after that no?

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also Maro has been answering multiple "new card type" questions lately, and he tends to select quite carefully from the questions

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Future Sight had the first Tribal cardtype card (Bound in Silence) and Tarmogoyf had Planeswalker type listed which arrived in Lorwyn

untold maple
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future proofing

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did they mention they were changing gameplay

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so I can only theoryze Battles are like world enchantments that affect combat only, or a new attempt at making a Field-type card

sleek shore
dusk bison
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its possible its seeding for MOM

rigid stirrup
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Maybe battle cards turns the game into yugioh?

dusk bison
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gf just posited that it was the tug-of-war mechanic they originally tried to put in WAR

brisk heath
flat tulip
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It could just be a supertype.

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Like tribal, I mean.

summer oar
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Tribal is not a supertype

flat tulip
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So, not a supertype. But a card type that’s paired with another card type.

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Sorry, I had a brain fart.

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||So, for example “Battle Enchantment”||

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Or it could very well be a typo.

summer oar
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which other cardtype would Battle connect to?

flat tulip
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Battle Sorcery

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Battle Instant

summer oar
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Battle Sorcery - Saga?

flat tulip
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idk. What would a “Battle” represent, in card type terms?

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Like, what would it do different versus, say, a Saga?

summer oar
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another permanent type, that can't be interacted with those spells that target Enchantments (or Artifacts or Creatures)

flat tulip
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idk

summer oar
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none of us do, but there's a long article about Skirmishes from the time of WAR, and that shows it was quite in development

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and "Battle" would work just as well

flat tulip
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I thought skirmish was more an ability that made a mini-battle, not a card type?

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It’s been a while since I read the article, hold on.

summer oar
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Skirmish would do the same thing, which was to generate a Skirmish token, meaning any card with the skirmish mechanic would have "create a Skirmish if one hasn't been created yet."

The Skirmish token had a tiny "game board" on it showing a field of combat. When you performed one of the stated conditions, you advanced on the field toward the opponent's side. If you advanced enough, you won the skirmish. You would do this because there was a payout for winning, a generated effect. Skirmish went through a lot of variations with a lot of different advancement conditions and a lot of different payouts.

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...

In the end, what killed skirmish wasn't that we didn't like it or that it wasn't fun, but it didn't capture the essence of what we were trying to do with the set. (Also, there were a host of play design issues that needed to get solved.)

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MOM being the Invasion among all the Planes sounds like a place that "Skirmish" could work

flat tulip
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So they would make it its own permanent type.

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Hmmm…

summer oar
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you could cast a Battle, that has the rules of how to advance on it "whenever you attack with a toxic creature advance this battle" and a finish "if you win this battle, draw 3 cards and put a creature with toxic from your hand to the battlefield"

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it's a riff on Dungeons this way, but different enough

slim vapor
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I was about to say, it's a lot like dungeons

summer oar
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and probably doesn't have its development/play design problems

slim vapor
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though you can't interact with an opponents dungeon progress

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whereas this is clearly designed to allow interaction

flat tulip
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A dungeon you can play in your deck

summer oar
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you play them in your deck, they can be removed with "target permanent"

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a bit like Dungeons, a bit like Attractions

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we won't know for a few months though unless a leak from MOM appears that's a Battle

flat tulip
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How would they do it with so little real estate on the card? It’d likely have no art.

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Or the text appears super smol

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I am curious

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Hopefully this Atraxa gets confirmed or debunked soon-ish.

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Because I really wanna know what the English name is.

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HMMMMMM

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untold maple
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isin't this just Venturing but pvp?

amber moon
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a Set Booster Commander card has leaked

rigid stirrup
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||Colorless commander with 5c active, yay. >.>||

amber moon
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||Urtet, Remnant of Memnarch 3||
||Legendary Artifact Creature - Myr||
||Whenever you cast a Myr spell, create a 1/1 colorless Myr artifact creature token.||
||At the beginning of combat on your turn, untap each Myr you control.||
||WUBRG, T: Put 3 +1/+1 counters on each Myr you control. Activate only during your turn.||
||2/2||

slim vapor
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hmm, that's only really one ability

amber moon
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||Sword of Forge and Frontier 3||
||Artifact - Equipment||
||Equipped creature gets +2/+2 and has protection from red and protection from green.||
||Whenever equipped creature deals combat damage to a player, exile the top two cards of your library. You may play those cards this turn. You may play an additional land this turn.||
||Equip 2||

slim vapor
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oh, I missed the last line in my internal translation

amber moon
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||Keeping the theme of the two abilities working together||

amber moon
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Clues update

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Posting here since we still have leaks on it

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a few came off but one went back on

ashen pendant
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okay, watching people repeatedly try and post the leak card to r/magictcg only to get deleted is kind of hilarious

amber moon
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i'm surprised there WAS a rule for leaks

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probably why so many people keep trying

ashen pendant
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it's in the full rules but not on the sidebar so I guess most people missed it

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anyways its finally sticking now because I stopped laughing and tacked a "source" onto one of the comments so mods could plausibly leave it up

amber moon
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a lot more leaks came out

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including ||3 more Domini||

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And... this

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||All Will Be One 3RR||
||Enchantment||
||Whenever you put one or more counters on a permanent or player, All Will Be One deals that much damage to target opponent or to target creature or planeswalker an opponent controls.||
||The Invasion Tree traversed the Blind Eternities and flooded the Multiverse with Phyrexian perfection.||

still canopy
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i love how these mythic red enchantments are universally bad

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this one seems almost good

dusk bison
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this one's playable in EDH for sure

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and like, actually playable, that's not a handwavy "eh its for edh"

untold maple
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oh man

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the red demoni is bad :V

vague patio
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I still insist that it should be Perfeaction

vague patio
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You know, I’m struggling to work out how they resolve this plot line without a big reset button. Phyrexians are like a virus; “so long as one drop of oil remains, the glorious work shall continue”. And now they’re cropping up all over the place. According to Tez, multiple planes have already fallen (showing again that fantasy writers don’t understand how time works). So there’s going to be a lot of oil laying around. Either they completely cut off planar travel or they do something to just undo what’s happened

summer oar
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we have Halo as the Mysterious Substance That Works

open plank
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I figure the solution is going to be some kind of time shenanigans with Teferi at the root

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Also, hot diggity am I excited for that Myr commander that got leaked

amber moon
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So, after the massive leak yesterday, we only have 1 clue that isn't leaked yet, ||the artifact that grants loyalty abilities||

dusk bison
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likely a mythic - maybe ||the compleat reality chip mentioned in the Tezz story?||

untold maple
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Coudl that be the || legendary - phyrexian jellyfish || ?

open plank
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That seems likely

untold maple
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or maybe its just an equipment with "Equip Planeswalker" cost

amber moon
untold maple
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aww

amber moon
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So I think the last mythics are ||that and the Blue Dominus||

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I haven't done any counting

dusk bison
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there's three left by my count

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including the two you mention

untold maple
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|| Mythic spoiler has 12 Mythics (2 W, 1 U, 3 B, 3 R ,3 G, 3M and 2 artifacts), so I guess yeah its 3 more to go the U Dominis, and probably another W and U card after. ||

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|| Oh I didn't realize the other 5 spheres got leaked too ||

still canopy
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have we gotten any rebellion aligned mythics yet?

untold maple
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only 1

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[[Sword of Forge and Frontier]]

graceful jettyBOT
untold maple
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thats Tyvar's hand

dusk bison
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not tyvar's, just a vulshok

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or auriok perhaps by coloration

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remember the people here natural have metal in their skin :V

untold maple
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yeah, but aurioks dont have hexagons on their body, at least thats the argument I heard

amber moon
untold maple
dusk bison
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its looking more and more like ||ria ivor is the only card in the set with Battle cry||

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and that's odd and fascinating from a set design perspective

untold maple
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its becuase its || a call back to the old card, I would love for more Battle Cry cards tho, but WotC is very scared of it :V

flat tulip
dusk bison
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it fits the rest and was leaked with a larger confirmed batch so thats doubtful

summer oar
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Flashback became decidious too

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(on Viral Spawning, and Maro confirmed it as such)

dusk bison
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||battle cry|| being deciduous is doubtful

untold maple
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|| Its probably not, more like just a call back. Even in sets with battle cry as an actual mechanic it was a very small amount of em ||

dusk bison
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yeah

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its very hard to make as a limited mechanic because a density of that effect isnt healthy

untold maple
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oh yeah, it gets silly

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same reason Its stuck in Boros (now Mardu) land, you don't want this stuff to trigger many times or get clones going on