#Difficulties with the Emerald Retail Shiny Eggs Webtool

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late furnace
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I have tried for about 8+ hours to attempt and troubleshoot why I haven’t been able to get the correct shiny frame. I don’t doubt that human error could be a factor, but I keep on hatching eggs that don’t match up with any calibration matches either. There have been a few occasions where I have received calls from the correct caller also, only for the resulting pokemon to not match in calibration either.

I have tried with multiple different target pokemon, and have changed the mother to a gardevoir from a different cartridge to change the relationship comment, but have resulted in the same challenges regardless.

I have attached screenshots of trainers ticked on the webtool screen, and will follow up with photos of my match call list on my gba.

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I forgot to mention I have tried both with and without an everstone equipped to the female too

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It’s 11pm here in Australia, so forgive me if I fall asleep sometime soon and stop responding

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Oh and I have checked my SID by extracting my save to an r4 and checking it in PKhex, so I know I have the correct SID too

late furnace
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one more thing, i have also reattempted the hunt using my android phone, ipad brave browser, and my desktop in firefox in case i had previously somehow messed up an offset in one of the other browsers

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if it helps, i am also happy to send you a copy of my save file. I have just taken a fresh backup of it.

blissful sleet
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Oh yeah a copy of the save file would make this much faster

late furnace
blissful sleet
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Perfect, I downloaded it

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I'm not available to help at the moment in case someone else steps in, but I should be able to take a look later

late furnace
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no stress - i should be going to sleep soon since it's nearly 12am, so feel free to take your time.

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i appreciate any help, whenever it comes

blissful sleet
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I was able to RNG a shiny egg with your save

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But I forgot to ask you for a screenshot of your settings before you want to sleep 😅

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When you wake up, could you send a screenshot of the settings you're using to find a target, as well as they current target you're trying to hit?

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Your save is set up correctly and doesn't have anything funky going on (e.g. calibration is 19). Since I was able to RNG with it, that suggests either your inputs are incorrect or the process isn't being done quite right.

late furnace
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oh that's amazing - thanks for that!

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those were my primary 3 settings and targets

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and an example on the timer side if it helps (if at least to prove im not needlessly messing with the sync optimisation stuff 😅 )

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in the meantime, im just going to methodically follow your video guide again.

it's sounding like there's simply a good chance ive just messed something up somewhere.

late furnace
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I haven’t redone my in-game setup yet, but thought I should also post a specific example where it went wrong too from the baseline of where the save was at.

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So from this egg, there was no calibration matches detected

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And the matching settings in case anything was whack from my earlier screenshots

blissful sleet
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Your settings match what I was using

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Are you making sure to open and close the pokedex the number of times mentioned in the target list?

late furnace
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yeah, i am
after resetting my daycare, 4 attempts in ive right now got a call from the expected jeffrey - so hopefully this is the correct shiny

blissful sleet
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Hopefully so!

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I'm off to bed, but if you leave details I might be able to see where things aren't lining up tomorrow morning

late furnace
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amazing, thanks so much for your help - ill keep you updated

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previous offset was isabel with a modest female. apparently +1 away.

now i got jeffrey, but with a rash male that shows no calibration matches

late furnace
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so strange - i got back to it.

had a few close calibration targets detected, but didnt adjust.

then 2x in a row had undetected modest females with a call from maria.

Then on the next attempt i got the shiny!

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still dont understand why i keep getting so many undetected targets though.

i have been sooo careful checking the pokedex appropriately.

blissful sleet
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Great job! I'm glad you got it

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For what it's worth, I frequently mess up this particular RNG for some reason

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When I first tried with your save, I entered the wrong settings twice

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Then I accidentally didn't open the Pokedex enough times

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Doing the right number of Pokedex openings trips me up often

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Maybe it's just one of those RNGs

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Regardless, great job! You should share in #rng-bragging 😄

late furnace
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thanks!
and certainly! i'm EV training it now, and will make a post once i evolve it.

Maybe next time ill aim for specific IVs too (i forgot to save before getting the egg cos i was in the habit of immediately checking the eggs from all the bad calls though)

spring frost
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hey. i've basically got the same problem right now, so i don't wanna open a redundant threat. could you please tell me how exactly you fixed it? i also get the correct call, but the wrong nature, and there doesn't seem to be close matches at all. also, no matter how many times i retry, i either get no egg at all or get the very same lax nature mon instead of adamant

late furnace
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unfortunately I didnt do anything in particular to fix it.

i ended up refocusing on a target that required less poxedex opening and had a short wait time so that i could reduce the chance of user error.

in my succesful attempt, i also didnt adjust the calibration at all (i still kept an eye on the results to see if i was close though), and simply ignored it when there were no matches - it ended up a lot faster than the previous attempts

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now that ive proven it on an easier target, ill be more confident to try on tougher targets.

spring frost
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I see. Glad it worked out for you!^^

I did attempt 3 different call targets by now, each time it's the correct call, but the same wrong nature, making me slowly believe i have to adjust one tiny little thing to get it, though i couldn't tell what >.>

blissful sleet
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I won't be able to help much today unfortunately, but if you have access to your save file and are willing to share it, that'd make it prety fast to figure out what's happening.

If you don't have save access or don't want to share it, could you post screenshots of your:

  • Tool inputs from steps 1 and 2 of the web app
  • The target you're aiming for from step 3 of the web app
  • Pictures of your match calls in the game

And answer these questions:

  • Is the lightning rod Pokemon in slot 1 of your party?
  • Does the daycare man say "The two seem to get along"?
  • Are both parents the same language?
  • Have you caught Latios/Latios yet? (just to be extra safe, checking the Pokedex should show if you don't recall)
  • Are you taking 9 steps before the timer goes off and any time you do get a call it's on the 10th step?
  • How many trainers does the game say are registered in the dex nav?
  • How many trainers are above Aroma Lady Rose in the DexNav?
  • Did you take out both parent Pokemon from the daycare before attempting this RNG? (Leaving the parents in the daycare too long will mess with things)
spring frost
# blissful sleet I won't be able to help much today unfortunately, but if you have access to your...

ah. i would really love to share my save! sadly though, i am playing on a gba with no means to digitalize my save data, so i will have to resort to more... traditional methods ;;

to answer the questions:

  • yes, i always look after my party and it's the default setup, since i don't need slugma to be at first to breed an egg faster... right?
  • no, he says "they don't seem to get along" (both parents have the same og trainer), which i also put into the web app
  • yes, both parents are german
  • no, i don't have latias/latios
  • yes. i count 9 steps and do the 10th when the timer runs out. sometimes i seem to mistime and get no call, but if i do, it's the correct caller
  • the dex nav says i have 63 trainers registered
  • 19 trainers are listed above rose
  • yes, i specifically followed the guide to take out the parents whenever it felt appropriate to start from square 1 (which was 4 times by now)
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fritjof was one frame off. irmgard was the right caller, but wrong hatched nature, and one time without an egg, where only the latter yielded calibration results

blissful sleet
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yes, i always look after my party and it's the default setup
When do you look at your party?

no, i don't have latias/latios
Have you beat the elite 4?

spring frost
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i just did another try without looking at my pokemon at all. it got the still undesired quiet nature

blissful sleet
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Maybe the problem is I need a wider calibration search range

blissful sleet
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I might have tracked down a bug that can impact some calibration results

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This could be something you both ran into

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I'm still digging, so no promises, but wanted to share that I might have found something

blissful sleet
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Nope, it turned out not to be a bug after all

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I double checked with other tools to make sure I didn't mess something up at some point, and the site results line up with all other tools – I can't seem to break it.

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Which tells me the calibration search range probably is too small after all. I'll expand that tomorrow morning.

spring frost
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thanks a ton for your contribution!thankyou

blissful sleet
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Sure!

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Before I expand the search range, I'd like to try one more thing.

Could you tell me:

  • Which egg you were targeting
  • The call, nature, and gender of the eggs you got when calibrating
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One more question. Did you ever step outside of the two squares to the right of the Pokecenter?

For example, in front of the PokeCenter or beneath the two squares?

spring frost
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  • i didn't calibrate too much, really, since half the time i didn't get any results. and the ones that do had multiple choices. but since the first time around (when admittedly failing to tick the "roaming target" on active, which i have tested after but still failed) was pretty consistent, i figured i was never more than 4 frames off

  • the gender was always correct - female. the calls from my latest testing were irmgard and fritjof, as i've mentioned. i would have to do testing at a later date again, but the latest testing were: irmgard none, irmgard quiet. i can't remember fritjof >.<

spring frost
blissful sleet
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Ah! That would do it. That messes up the "calibration" value in step 3 and gives completely different eggs and calls.

spring frost
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really? i thought the last step would calibrate no matter which tile i went to. i didn't know it was this specific. sorry for the hussle, i will test it later >.<

blissful sleet
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No worries!

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Yep, it's important to stay on those two squares.

spring frost
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the trainer feels so slow stepping there, though, since they have to turn first, advancing me back a tad, no?

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-# not following a guide to the T really did it again for me ;;

blissful sleet
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Even if the character is slower, it won't affect the end result

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RNG advances aren't tied to the characters movement

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What matters is how much time has passed since starting the game

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I actually wonder how many other people have run into this same situation

spring frost
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it would be comforting if i wasn't the only clueless one :p

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that is the thing, though, no? the "step" didn't happen yet while turning, thus time advances just a few advances forward

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so in theory, i could just tap the pad and turn in preparation for the final step, couldn't i?

blissful sleet
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You can, but any calibration you need to do on step 4 will mitigate any time drift

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If you need to calibrate at least once, it won't matter either way

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But you need to be consistent, whichever way you choose

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I don't turn in preparation just in case I take the step too early

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and it's one less thing to remember to do

spring frost
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same goes for stepping a little late, and turning and walking is not just a tap, but a longer hold of the button, so... yeah, it can go both ways :x

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but you're right, consistency is key! i thank you kindly^^

spring frost
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still wrooooong! >:C

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and no matches

blissful sleet
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Which target are you aiming for?

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And how many times have you calibrated?

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Since stepping in front of the pokecenter invalidates the results, I'm wondering if you calibrated a few times with those results and are now too far from your target.

spring frost
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hm. i am aiming for an adamant scyther. and yes, i did calibrate. the first was only one result with just -8 frames off. so i figured the next results were the closest to 0

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i really gotta start documenting my stuff when expecting help, sorry <.<

spring frost
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and the last calibration was righ tcaller with egg, but no result

spring frost
blissful sleet
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Which pid is the target you're aiming for?

spring frost
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though i did turn beforehand

spring frost
blissful sleet
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If you try another time or two, send the trainer name and egg here. I have an idea about what might be happening, but more data would be helpful.

spring frost
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i see >.<

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i would love to, but i am soon being picked up for a 4-day vacation. i could try to do it there when i have the time, but otherwise, i will have to delay that testing until monday

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although

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i will try and get as much data as i can before i go

blissful sleet
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No worries

spring frost
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does it matter who parent 1 and 2 are?

blissful sleet
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Only for ivs, not for pid/shininess/nature

spring frost
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right

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first testing and i got the right egg immediately

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wtf

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welp

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it was me all along

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first caller: irmgard
hatched egg: scyther, adamant, female

blissful sleet
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Did you do anything different this time?

spring frost
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I did the setup from scratch again, but it has been the same every time

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I did not calibrate the timer