Mystery Gift Timeline Confusion

[subtle falcon]

I've been getting back into Gen 7 RNG and have been trying to make a Timeline, but when I check the Timeline results, my target frame does not show up despite being a safe frame when I checked it. What am I doing wrong with this timeline?

[craggy breach]

Are you behind the deliver man?

[final jackal]

Something doesnt match with mine

[craggy breach]

Npcs 6 doesn't make sense iirc

It is or 4 or 8

[subtle falcon]

In front

[craggy breach]

Better doing it behind

[final jackal]

6 npcs?

[subtle falcon]

The website image shows in front

Bruh

[subtle falcon]

That's what Pokereader gives me

[subtle falcon]

Who do I have to yell at to get this changed on the website?

[final jackal]

Go behind, 4 npcs

[subtle falcon]

Welp, guess I'll have to go back to the seed mines. Can't get out of the "You received Zygarde!" text box while keeping this seed now without receiving the Zygarde.

[craggy breach]

Yeah

[trim glacier]

Nobody to yell at

[subtle falcon]

idk if you know who would be able to update that website, but that definitely needs to be changed

[trim glacier]

You just don't have 4 NPC in front

[craggy breach]

It works both sides

[craggy breach]

So nobody

In front you need to be more precise

So better doing a random try first

[trim glacier]

Not at all

You just have to secure the NPC count almost sure here it'd be 5

[craggy breach]

To see if you get a random rng

[trim glacier]

So just reload pokereader

wait 30 seconds, ajust and done

[craggy breach]

I mean the position

[trim glacier]

Not even needed here

Especially if the RNG is already triggered

[craggy breach]

Behind no, in front yes

[trim glacier]

Nope

[final jackal]

Indeed

[trim glacier]

it's like the daycare

Yeah you'd have a """""""""""""""better""""""""""""""" time behind

[craggy breach]

I remember having problems when I was not correctly positioned

[trim glacier]

(and i say that if you time finder) outside that ehhhhhhhhhhhhh

not that much

[subtle falcon]

How do I reload Pokereader? I'm not seeing the button command on the install page.

[final jackal]

Close and open

[trim glacier]

No clue, I didn't touch a 3DS for the past 6 years for RNGing

Just saying that the NPC Count might have loaded a 6th NPC before so you're in a 5 NPC spot showing a 6 NPC because not reloaded

If you want to "save" your actual RNG (i mean you're not using any time finder so yeah not really a huge game changer)

[subtle falcon]

It's still 6 even after a reload

[trim glacier]

30 seconds in 6 NPC in the school center ?

[subtle falcon]

Yeah

[trim glacier]

Snap is my memory leaking me ?

Last input, you can timeline from here

[craggy breach]

I'm pretty sure about what I said

The position in front is everything unfortunately

[trim glacier]

Not at all

[craggy breach]

That's why it is easier behind

[trim glacier]

There's no correction, nothing implied in a center

it's the same as the daycare, there's no difficulty nothing special no matter the NPC count

NPC count is known and definable in a specific way (hi Partner Pikachu)

But obviously I can't go against saying that the 4 NPC spot IS better

[final jackal]

If you move fast enough on different spots on a pokemon center, you can lock on different npcs # ofc, behind while you wait some seconds is going to change your npcs count to 4

[subtle falcon]

I think this attempt is botched. Same issue of my target frame not showing up on the timeline.

I can confirm the timeline is accurate with frame advances, but the target frame doesn't show up on it

[trim glacier]

Uh ? Then wrong timeline ? I don't see an issue here ?

but in this situation, yeah you're screwed for your target

[final jackal]

you timeline here and then

[trim glacier]

This is a timeleap ban

[final jackal]

We can try from the start where you get 4 npcs

[subtle falcon]

Moving behind does give 4 NPCs as expected

[final jackal]

Yes, you want to lock that #, so you are good to talk with the npc

[subtle falcon]

I would be, if I had a good target on the seed. Back to the mines I go.

and yes, I did save behind the person

[final jackal]

You can always go inside the castle or the mart to advance faster with more npcs

[subtle falcon]

Is there a recommended max frame to set the tool to?

[final jackal]

Just what you want to wait

I set 500k as max, but you are going for a 3 perfect ivs mon event, so getting a flawless is ez

[subtle falcon]

Alright, I'm not sure what happened here but when advancing frames I went from 28535 right to 28539, skipping frame 2 altogether despite making the timeline. Any idea where I messed up?

[final jackal]

Did you create the timeline on your current safe frame?

[subtle falcon]

No, because that's not mentioned in the directions on the website.

[final jackal]

You have to test your timeline by doing some advances and predicting them. Then update your current safe frame (the one you are currently on game) and then proceed

[subtle falcon]

At what point am I supposed to do that? I don't understand why timeline leap wouldn't just take that into account.

[final jackal]

Because you always create a timeline on your current safe frame

Thats the thing I see on your timeleap, it has and offset of 2, and that should not happen

[subtle falcon]

I was under the impression that confirming your frame was safe just involved making sure it had a - in the Mark column, since it wouldn't get filtered out by "Safe F only"

[final jackal]

Is on timeline page

[final jackal]

You only need to land into safe frame, then create a timeline, confirm everything is good at this point by advancing some frames, land into safe frame again and update current frame range (minimun on left should be the same you are currently on game) from here create againg a timeline and then timeleap

[subtle falcon]

The problem is you can't leap after making a timeline for Mystery Gifts since you have to be at the final A press to make a timeline but for timeline leap you have to be at the Yes/No screen which is before the final A press.

idk how I'm supposed to go backwards in text dialogue to get back to the Yes/No screen after making a timeline

[final jackal]

No. You create a timeline and then a timeleap. To timeleap you have to be 100% sure your timeline is correct since anything wrong from here is going to end into an error.

If you are confused on testing youe timeline I have a guide on spanish https://youtu.be/V65DlkJjNRY?si=5-6DoldlQwIFyLWk for events

Around 9:47 I wait on a safe frame, timeline and test my timeline

Since is correct and proceed with timeleap

11:25°

[subtle falcon]

Your video directly conflicts with what's instructed on the website. The guide says to get to the Pokémon's final screen, which you aren't on when testing your timeline at 11:25.

Unfortunately I don't speak Spanish, otherwise I'd just use your video as a guide instead. No wonder I used to just skip timelines when I used to do Gen 7 RNG if the guides were this confusing and inconsistent with what you need to do.

In the Mystery Gift guide, "final screen" refers to this text box, at which point you can't go back to leap.

[final jackal]

Nothing a good rewrite can not fix. That's why dialogue is fundamental. Yes, a lot of users skip timeline generation and just use "lol just land" method which is a roulette.

[final jackal]

I personally don't like that it ignores using festiplaza or hau oli.

[subtle falcon]

Well, I decided to make a small write-up in a Github Issue for the site while linking back to this thread so they can look through it and hopefully see why the current write-ups are confusing and difficult to understand (plus I also mentioned the MGift guide shouldn't go to the final screen first for FPlaza/HOli advances).