modding-discussion

[swift bison]

forgot who owns the first one tho

[weak plinth]

I do.

just DM the sheets to me when you're done

[swift bison]

ah, will remember that

[scarlet moss]

alrightie!

[weak plinth]

and let me know how you want to be credited in the name of it, etc

[untold field]

Hey guys how do I uninstall modding api from HK?

[swift bison]

modinstaller 1 or 2

[untold field]

well mine doe snot have 2 so say its 1

[swift bison]

k

look near the bottom

click revert to vanilla

[untold field]

I dont see a button like that

[swift bison]

screenshot

[untold field]

there is "Revert to unmodded" but its just disables all mods

[swift bison]

that's what I meant

also that's not what it does

[untold field]

but then why does it say modding api at the top left corner of my game?

[errant lance]

are you on steam

[swift bison]

does it say anything when you click it

[untold field]

yea

[errant lance]

verify integrity of game files, youll be back to vanilla after

[untold field]

im doing it

so 1 file failed to validate or soemthing

[swift bison]

supposed to happen

now it will return to normal

[untold field]

ok thanks

[half warren]

should i drop my indigo hk skin yet

(preview)

wow i forgot how massive the knight sprite is

[grizzled steppe]

can i get some criticism on these maps i posted please? #modding-discussion message
i wanna make them better

[rapid sky]

Uhm people can download this....

[hexed nimbus]

yeah, but for a complete custom knight skin you need a bit more then just one spritesheet

[swift bison]

looks pretty cool

[half warren]

It's only the knight sprite

I did every sprite and every charm the mod would allow me to do

[rapid sky]

damn

[half warren]

yeah

Anyway, time to drop it

Zipping it up

Done

There are 2 files btw

can you use @ here, are you allowed?

[rapid sky]

uhm yea i think so

[half warren]

Cool

[rapid sky]

but when i search for you it wont show up

[hexed nimbus]

i don't think so

[rapid sky]

wait ill try something

@hexed nimbus

yeaaa it works

[half warren]

Hmm

[hexed nimbus]

oh, that @, i thought actual @here

[half warren]

better safe than sorry

yeah that's what i meant

anyway

Here you go

[swift bison]

cool, I'll try it once I finish doing stuff in a mod because doing it the original way doesnt work for some weird reason

[half warren]

Hmm

[pale epoch]

so like i just got the multiplayer mod

and anyone up to play so i can see if it works

[abstract hornet]

@grizzled steppe Yeah, I'll give them a try today. Apologies for the delay.

[grizzled steppe]

thanks, but keep in mind these arent as good as the rest, i couldnt come up with anything fun and cool for them really

[austere tree]

I want to like HollowPoint but I just can't get used to playing it with a keyboard like I normally do, and in addition to my muscle memory messing with me the lag spikes when I fire the gun... just make it not feel good to play

I'm getting a controller soon so I just need to find a way to get rid of the lag spikes

And I'll be able to enjoy it

[brittle egret]

its shittily optimized, so sorry about that

imo you can try other (way way better made) mods like Lightbringer or Rando3

[pale epoch]

anyone actually wants to play?

[toxic sparrow]

My heal wont work, worked fine yesterday

just cant focus, no animation

tried config file, tried reinstalling mods

no clue what it could be

[swift bison]

@toxic sparrow what mods did you use

[toxic sparrow]

randomize 3, QoL, debug

custom knight, benchwarp, randomap, and any dependencies.

[swift bison]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[toxic sparrow]

lol

oh well

guess I just gotta find hiveblood

[weak plinth]

Cursed randomizer setting perhaps?

[toxic sparrow]

didnt enable but could be

Ill try a reset

[weak plinth]

Cursed mode randomizes focus too

[toxic sparrow]

Im trying a reset, well see

validating game files through steam, reinstalling mods, and resetting save fixed it

weird

might have been the randomizer being weird, file validation also said it found some stuff missing

could be either

[swift bison]

Well if it was missing, you couldn’t run hk. Pretty sure what it meant is it detected the ModdingApi and removed it

[toxic sparrow]

probably yea

whatever it did fixes it though so no complaints

[dry snow]

Something went wrong with this

[barren wharf]

Anybody have Custom Knight skin ideas that change the cloak?

[stiff wolf]

I had the thought of making it butterfly wings but I have no idea how to make that look nice

[wicked berry]

play my nosk, cowards

[wet fractal]

Whatever happened to the pale court mod?

[wicked berry]

Well they started developing it

and then they kept going

[wet fractal]

Is it still in development then?

[errant lance]

yup

[wet fractal]

Pog

[barren wharf]

So any ideas?

[wet fractal]

For what?

[barren wharf]

Custom Knight skins that only change the cloak

[wet fractal]

That you want to make? Or that already exist?

[barren wharf]

I want to make

[wet fractal]

You can make a green to blue fade

Or any solid color

Or any color fading to another

[barren wharf]

no I mean a redesign

[wet fractal]

Ah okay

My bad lol

What if u took the cloak off all together 😳

[barren wharf]

No

Just no

[wet fractal]

Hmmmm

[wicked berry]

make the cloak luscious hair

[wet fractal]

There’s a website do design your own vessel. It has a few cloak options

Maybe u can get inspiration there?

[barren wharf]

I want it to be original

[wet fractal]

Of course

I’m just suggesting a way to get inspired

[barren wharf]

ok

[tawdry shard]

I HAVE IT

I HAVE THE GREATEST CUSTOM KNIGHT EVER MADE

this is how IM fighting the pure vessel idk bout yall

[wicked berry]

you realise it's going to rotate a lot unpredictably

[viscid aspen]

OH NO

(send me the skin i wanna try it out)

[tawdry shard]

DM me about it tomorrow, I’m in bed on my phone RN I didn’t export it to anywhere online before going to sleep

[swift bison]

I think I can make a better one give me a couple months

[gusty mural]

y e s

[austere tree]

Idea for a mod: A 0-notch autoequipped charm that's description is "Makes the bearer look at gay people." Whenever the Knight is standing still they will look directly at the screen

[gloomy parcel]

[swift bison]

[rapid burrow]

[hexed nimbus]

sounds like homophobia but with extra steps

[errant lance]

@austere tree do not troll here it wont end nicely

[golden goblet]

[austere tree]

I am literally gay

But I apologize for the

[golden goblet]

Lol

[austere tree]

I'm not being insincere I'm just blanking on the word

It's not confusion

Anyway I'm sorry for goofing off and potentially sending the wrong message

[golden goblet]

Misunderstanding?

[austere tree]

That wasn't exactly it but it works ig

Anyway I asked this a few times before but does anyone know if there's a way to prevent the game from lagging when you use the gun in HollowPoint, or is it just a problem with my own computer?

[errant lance]

PC problem

[austere tree]

Fuck

Thank you anyway

[grizzled steppe]

ok, i finished fixing up the arenas i posted previously so here are the (hopefully) better versions of them
first is no eyes

here is broken vessel

a completely different collector arena

a flukemarm where you can spawn

[thick meadow]

wonder, why there's no quirrel skin yet

[errant lance]

because no one has made it, easy answer

[wicked berry]

you wanna make one?

[thick meadow]

w h o? me? or zaliant

[wicked berry]

I thought zaliant was working on 🏹

[errant lance]

dead

[wicked berry]

[thick meadow]

I could try making a quirrel skin sure since I happen to be decent at drawing and such
one problem is I've never made skins before

[wicked berry]

What would you need help with to get started?

[thick meadow]

I think I've mostly figured it out, I think I'll be okayy

[sly fulcrum]

Is it difficult to create a skin? I have an idea, but I don't know how to start it

[wicked berry]

As difficult as making a hundred ish short animations

[silk junco]

as difficult as redrawing all the knight's frames

[silver garden]

If you are familiar with animation: As easy as you expect it to be.

If you're not: Much harder than you expect it to be.

The hard part is mainly making the thing, getting the sprites into the game has been made relatively easy

If a little time consuming.

[silk junco]

I think is more tedious than anything

[silver garden]

Yeah, I haven't actually reached the getting it back into the game yet, but it looks like a lot of pressing the same buttons over and over again.

[minor tinsel]

very tedious basically

hey chrome are you still working on madeline knight?

[swift bison]

Madeline from celeste?

[wicked berry]

I'm thinking about finals right now

[minor tinsel]

makes sense

[wicked berry]

Also, I'd probably need to start over

Double so if custom knight + came out. I can do without, but if it's there I would like to use it

[minor tinsel]

oh ok

[wicked berry]

How's your skin going?

[minor tinsel]

taking a break from it for the time being

finals and all that, plus i got kinda tired of hk stuff for a bit

hoping to get back to it over winter break

[old valley]

What if here was a mod, that showed the charms you had on while you were walking around?

As in, you could see them on ghost

[scarlet moss]

that would take ages, probably having to make every single charm combination in eixstence.

[swift bison]

Watch me

Also that’s a great idea @old valley I’m stealing it

[old valley]

that's fine with me

[swift bison]

Shouldn’t be too hard to make, just don’t let the list of charms deactivate, and reposition them. Or I could clone the list. Or I could remake the list and clone the sprites.

There’s a lot of ways I see that I could take this

Should also work with custom charms

[hexed nimbus]

lmao custom charms, who even is using those lol

[swift bison]

lol

Underused modding tool

[grizzled steppe]

i want short nail mod
where get short nail mod

[errant lance]

?i

[fathom wigeon]

Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.

[weary sphinx]

if anyone can make a better rightside (that isn't dumb and bad) to this room. i will throw it right into the custom any% route (and i love you forever I don't have much to offer). PLEASE this room is impossible to make fun. (gruz drop room)

[haughty cosmos]

someone needs to make Radiance with contact damage

[hexed nimbus]

k

[swift bison]

Ez

[ruby rover]

how do i get the installer?

[swift bison]

@ruby rover windows, Mac, or Linux

@ me if you respond

[ruby rover]

@swift bison heyo, windows

i have the installler installed

[swift bison]

?i

[fathom wigeon]

Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.

[swift bison]

Oh

[ruby rover]

yeah

i need help with somethin else now

how do i add a save file?

i have a 112% file i wanna add

[swift bison]

Ok

Show me the file

Like a screenshot

[ruby rover]

i have the file, i just dont know where to put it

[swift bison]

So it’s called user#.dat ?

[ruby rover]

yea

[swift bison]

Ok

[ruby rover]

user1.dat

[swift bison]

Which slot do you want to replace

[ruby rover]

1 is fine

[swift bison]

Ok

?saves

[fathom wigeon]

Saves

---

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```

[swift bison]

Drop it into the save files path and you’re good

Just open the game

[ruby rover]

all set! thanks

[teal sand]

can someone make holloe knight a hard mode

[azure mirage]

does anyone know how to play together through the mod?

[swift bison]

@azure mirage yes

@teal sand ever heard of boss mods?

[twin ivy]

Guys how to remove infinite jump? I Just forgot to remove it and, unistalled all mod already

Maybe there is a method to remove it from "Hollow Knight Online Editor"?

[rapid burrow]

readd debug and turn it off? I dont see thatd be something sticking after rebooting tho

[twin ivy]

Nah

it doesn't work

[rapid burrow]

have you tried verifying your install?

[twin ivy]

If I use Debug mode it says that I have "Infinite jump" active

[rapid burrow]

yes, and then you turn it off

[twin ivy]

And I did it..

Then unistalling mod

and the changes doesn't get any effect

I Mean, If I delete the mods, the double jump remains

infinite*

[azure mirage]

how

[swift bison]

@faint crypt wdym you are stuck on 1.3.6? What mods are you talking about

@twin ivy infinite jumps is stored in your save file. Did you save after disabling it in debug?

[hexed nimbus]

@faint crypt wrong game or wrong server, this is for HK modding, not terraria

[granite sequoia]

how can i unbind the debugmod keybinds?

[rapid burrow]

in your saves folder there is a settings file with json key:value format for all the binds

this is ish how it looks on current patch version, and it should work to just delete the ones you dont want a bind for and just rebind them in-game if needed

if on an older debug version this format is used tho, so you have to remove the one in "keys" and the "value" in the the appropriate column. Like "Key" line 4 corresponds with value line 4, etc etc "binds": { "keys": [ "Toggle All UI", "Toggle Enemy Panel", "Toggle Vignette", "Zoom In", "Zoom Out", "Reset Camera Zoom", "Save DG Data", ....... ], "values": [ 282, 290, 277, 280, 281, 279, 49, ......... ] }

[rapid burrow]

?saves this should show where your save folder is, in case you dont know

[fathom wigeon]

Saves

---

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```

[twin ivy]

Oh I resolved it, thank you..

[halcyon thorn]

How does healing work in hollowpoint

[errant lance]

readme's in your game files

[barren wharf]

Hello guys

[hallow kraken]

Hey guys just with a quick question ? Does bonfire mod changes game balance ?

[swift bison]

@hallow kraken enemies’ size increases with how much you upgrade I think

[brave ravine]

is there a document or something analyzing the code/the files of the game? im interested in how it works

[dry snow]

can someone send me a link for pale king

im looking for it for a looong time

[swift bison]

@dry snow look in the history of this channel. You can only get the knight and sprint sprite sheets now

@brave ravine https://radiance.host/apidocs this is a guide for making mods for hk. To look at the code for the game(except Fsm stuff) use Dnspy or ilspy to open Assembly-cSharp.dll for Fsm stuff use fsm viewer

[brave ravine]

thank you!

[plucky notch]

hello)
can someone explain the story of the christmas mod from TWP?
i found 2 videos on YT about it and they have different spells
i tried to read history of channel and see that there was a challenge but then the mod went public
and.....
where is "full" version of it?

[swift bison]

Never heard of it

[plucky notch]

on right side is that we have in public
on left side that was in video on YT and in history here in spring

[swift bison]

@plucky notch oh you meant skin not mod. It’s probably on their skin drive, if not don’t expect it to be made public for a while if ever

[plucky notch]

@swift bison yeah - i mean skin (sorry)
and it's really available on their skin drive
but only right version
not left (which is ofc better)

[swift bison]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dry snow]

someone needs to make a mod where every hit makes the meme fart sound effect

[swift bison]

Should just be a simple edit to the files the boop mod uses

[dry snow]

ok

[swift bison]

Don’t even need to edit the code

Just swap out the files

[vagrant trellis]

is there a mod that increases Hornet's difficulty

[viscid aspen]

daughter of hallownest mod?

[swift bison]

Daughter of hallownest mod(not to be confused with the skin)

[vagrant trellis]

ah thanks

she's so easy otherwise

[viscid aspen]

fair

[vagrant trellis]

disappointingly easy

[rapid burrow]

Quick question: does anyone know how fast the knight accelerates when falling?

[hexed nimbus]

unity gravity with a scale of 0.79 and a mass of 1

[rapid burrow]

Thanks :3

[hexed nimbus]

7.742 units/s²

[tough sky]

hello

[acoustic spindle]

I had a quick question. Does anyone know if you can use the Randomizer Mod with the multiplayer mod? I know the Multiworld mod is a bit out of date and this was probably the next best thing if it could work

[swift bison]

@acoustic spindle yes they work

[acoustic spindle]

Thank you

[chilly lotus]

what is the save file called

[hexed nimbus]

userX.dat, with X being the save slot number (1 to 4)

[swift bison]

Solved in modding help

[hexed nimbus]

idc

[swift bison]

lol

[hexed nimbus]

if you're using QoL, a decrypted version is called userX.json

[granite sequoia]

where can i find the file for the hard dirtmouth thing

that fireb0rn did a vid on

[swift bison]

@granite sequoia probably in the description of the video

[granite sequoia]

Nope

[swift bison]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rapid burrow]

@ zaliant

[orchid crown]

i think zaliant has updated it anyway @errant lance

[granite sequoia]

Thx

[ashen yew]

are there like , custom maps or something?

[swift bison]

@ashen yew yes. Decoration master mod. Fireborn made a tutorial on YouTube

[ashen yew]

i play on switch idek

nvm

[swift bison]

Can’t mod switch

[ashen yew]

idc

technically you can,
(well yes, but no.)

[swift bison]

No you can’t

There is no modding api for hk on switch

[sharp magnet]

is there anything new for the pale court mod?

[errant lance]

saw some progress a bit ago, it's getting there

[sharp magnet]

pogger

[smoky isle]

Is there a mod for hd rumble?

[swift bison]

No

[smoky isle]

Darn

[wispy zealot]

Gaaaaaaaaaaah lightbringer

I despise how it makes soul work

Whoever decided to make it so soul regenerates on an insanely slow timer should be slapped

[swift bison]

@wispy zealot you sure you want to slap 753?

[wispy zealot]

When fighting dung defender, yes

Gimme soul to get him out the ground dangit

[maiden badger]

hey I see on the mod summaries there is a mod for NG+ for the entire map, but the mod installer only shows NG+ for kings pass

this the same mod or no?

[arctic fiber]

in the mod description of the unofficial patch, what is the "absrad hazard spawn bug" ?

[swift bison]

@maiden badger same mod but it’s a beta since there have been no updates since king’s pass

@arctic fiber ignore that mod. Does basically nothing now

[arctic fiber]

Noted.

thanks

[fresh hull]

Is the gun mod safe to use, I'm reading the "read me" attached file and it says something about it messing with save files

[rapid burrow]

When was the unofficial patch relevant anyhoo?

I've seen it in the launcher, but never looked into what it "fixed" or anything

[fresh hull]

?

[rapid burrow]

Backup your saves before using it, ez fix

?saves

[granite agate]

Saves

---

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```

[icy fog]

anyone know if the multiplayer mod is adding co-op on one device? my little brother wants to play and I dont wanna get him a pc lol

[stiff wolf]

Check out dreamshield or grimmchild coop

[icy fog]

nice, thanks

[swift bison]

@stiff wolf same mod

[stiff wolf]

til

check out dreamshield AND grimmchild coop then

[celest wigeon]

fix some glitches(sisters of battle, Watcher Knights changed)

[abstract hornet]

Nice! I've been having a blast with that mod as is, but much thanks for any tweaks!

[storm smelt]

he guys i was wondering if there's any mods for or a way to make a mod for like

a "turbo mode" of sword

like the actual game speed is way faster or something similar

lol nvm i found the sanic mod

[barren wharf]

A sprite on what the Hive Vessel Skin will look like

[silver garden]

Ooh, bee themed Knight

[vivid saffron]

Any date on the new hollow knight? 💩

[barren wharf]

Silksong?

[vivid saffron]

Yus

[barren wharf]

No release date yet

[vivid saffron]

Sigh...

They certainly have a good marketing team

[tame fern]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the "Custom Knight" setting on the Hollow Knight Multiplayer Server mod does? It would be so cool if I could play with my friends and we all had different skins, but it seems like the button doesn't actually do anything; even with the Custom Knight mod installed.

[hexed nimbus]

was disabled due to performance issues

[tame fern]

I guess that makes sense

[lime bay]

absrad constantly has updated? I know what I must do.

[soft aurora]

How do you unbind debug keybinds? I don't know how to and having it set to a random key irks me.

[errant lance]

delete the debug.globalsettings.json file in your saves

?saves

[granite agate]

Saves

---

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```

[errant lance]

then just restart the game

[soft aurora]

Okay thanks.

[celest stone]

how do i change modinstaller install directory?

[errant lance]

reset the instller, how-to in #archived-modding-help pins

[celest stone]

thanks

i really needed that

[torpid mason]

Idk if this would be the right place to ask but it seems like it would pertain to modding but has anyone been able to get videos of the backgrounds used on the title screen without any text?

[silver garden]

There are some on YouTube. I grabbed a couple from there

[torpid mason]

Got any links?

[silver garden]

Afraid not it was a whole ago. I literally just typed stuff into the search bar.

[torpid mason]

I've searched a lot myself and haven't found anything but if anyone does come across them, please let me know

[celest stone]

when i use debug mode and try to click on no clip nothing happens, does anyone know why?

[weak plinth]

Not without more info

[celest stone]

what more info should i give

[swift bison]

@celest stone what other mods you have installed(if you have moresaves installed, yeet it) is a good bit of info. Screenshots are also good

[ornate drum]

Is there any mod that let us control the camera and do a boundary break kind of what shesez does? Would love to see above the white palace, black egg, and hallownest's crown

[stiff wolf]

use debug mod, activate noclip

[wicked berry]

use f8 to force camera follow

usually it's just empty void though

[cloud arch]

I have a question about save files but I don't know where to ask it, is this channel okay?

[weak plinth]

could just ask the question

[spark lintel]

hey so here's a question: is it just me or does Hollow Point's fury of the fallen do nothing?

[spark lintel]

nvm it just isnt dealing double damage to me

[celest stone]

why does it always say that grimmchild upgrades and hollowpoints read me is outdated

and modinstaller always crashes when i try to download poorly translated

and Uuwuu fails to load

and i can't install royal dreamer

and i can't use cheats in debug mod

[nocturne sky]

Do you have all the mods they depend on?

ModCommon or one of the others

You may be missing those

@celest stone

[celest stone]

i got modcommon

which button do you use to click on cheats?

is it the jump or attack button

or something else

[rapid burrow]

Just mouse

[celest stone]

well then it doesn't work

[swift bison]

Get the modcommon and SFCore mods

[celest stone]

thanks i had the modcommon but not the sfcore

[swift bison]

For debug cheats, pause, then if the menu isn’t up, press f1, then click on the options

[celest stone]

ok

thanks

[swift bison]

Poorly translated needs a manual install

[celest stone]

oh

[swift bison]

Hollow point and grimmchild upgrades are bugged so ignore the installer if you just updated one of those and it wants to do it again

[celest stone]

so should i click no then?

[swift bison]

Yeah

[celest stone]

still can't use cheats.....

[wet fractal]

does someone have a link to a hornet skin that i can use? i lost mine when i file got corrupted

[swift bison]

@wet fractal check the twp skin drive for daughter of hallownest

[wet fractal]

the what skin drive?

[swift bison]

The white palace

[wet fractal]

is it pinned?

[swift bison]

Yes

Along with the other skin drive

[wet fractal]

didnt find it but found something else with hornet skins pinned so thanks

[swift bison]

I do believe this is it

[wet fractal]

ah. thank you

[stone raft]

Does anyone have have a pale king skin mod?

[swift bison]

Skins aren’t mods. It was posted a while ago in this channel, but you can’t get the spell spritesheets snymore

[stone raft]

Ok

[wicked berry]

Actually I think Methyl said he was handing it out if you completed the challenge

[dry snow]

This is my first time trying mods

And I gotta say

I love enemy randomizer

[tacit flume]

does anybody know if Hollow Knight on switch loads slower on the new model of Nintendo Switches? My friends switch is the newer model and his always takes longer to load the game and areas in HK. While mine is a console release date switch it doesn't take as long to load.

[dry snow]

i cant wait to test custom knight mod

[severe anchor]

i like how Team Cherry endorses mods instead of trying to fuck them all over

[young shale]

Wait can u get mods on Mac? I usually play on PS4 but I’m going away and max is my only portable device

[silver garden]

You can mod on a Mac, yes.

Check the pins for mods installer 2 for Mac

[clear blade]

I have an interesting idea for a mod

basically i'm getting a bunch of people to voice act hollow knight

I can't code but if anyone is interested please tell me

[celest wigeon]

[balmy dragon]

Hello everybody! Just looking at the read me for the randomizer mod and i come accross this:

With these skips allowed, the player is advised to take care to not lock out of certain required pogos. Obtain:

• No more than 1 nail upgrade before claw or wings
• No more than 3 nail upgrades before claw

what do nail upgrades have to do with skips?

i dont get itttt

[clear blade]

nail pogo skips

they are heavily advised in the mod so you don't get locked out

and you want as many hits as possible on an enemy so that you can pogo into new areas

[grave oasis]

hi! i saw the poorly translated HK mod and i made a french version of it, can i share it?
I didn't modify the python script that comes with it though

and it works perfeclty

[proper shoal]

Yo is there a mod where u can get bosses to fight each other

[dry snow]

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

deos any1 consider themselves a pro modder

[raw lichen]

what do you want?

[dry snow]

go to modding help and... HELP

[raw lichen]

no can do

[dry snow]

why

?

#archived-modding-help

try pressing

on it

[balmy dragon]

ohhhh yah! they die quicker with stronger nail hits, so its less chances! thanks 🙂

[dry snow]

can *youuuu help?

[swift bison]

Stop asking for help, it makes people want to not help. Wait patiently.

[dry snow]

mk

[nocturne sky]

For voice acting?

[clear blade]

a voice acted mod and if you want to do a vo

likeboth the coding or voices themselves

[nocturne sky]

Mmm, how nice

Isn't there already some VA mod though?

[clear blade]

not that i know of

[swift bison]

I could code that but I’m doing too much other stuff atm

[weak plinth]

"oh I don't code, I'm the ideas guy"

[nocturne sky]

I smell a lie

[nocturne sky]

Odd, I'd have assumed someone already made one

[clear blade]

i don't believe there is one on the modinstaller but i could be wrong

[nocturne sky]

I can ask around, find some people interested in va if you want

twould be better to ask once there's a foundation for it, however

[clear blade]

cool

i have like 10 va already

i got some people on my server to start helping out

[nocturne sky]

@weak plinth is there currently a way to swap voicelines?

[swift bison]

Yes

Ez to do

Swap out a audio clip

[weak plinth]

interrupt the audio at runtime

and run your own audio

[nocturne sky]

@clear blade problem solved

[swift bison]

I have a idea for making a voice acting mod

There’s a method for bringing up the dialogue box that fsms use(can also call it in code)

Just make a hook for it and play audio corresponding to the key that will go into the GetLanguage stuff

Make it use a folder in the mods folder like CustomKnight, then have people put wav files in there that you can convert into audio clips with WavUtility then play a audio clip from the file with the name of the key in the hook

[clear blade]

I'll try

[swift bison]

this was meant towards @nocturne sky but if you want to code it, idc

[nocturne sky]

Mmm, wonderful

I still want to finish with something smaller, first

How simple is a reskin of a boss gonna be, @swift bison?

Oh damnit

offline

[swift bison]

Haven’t I already told you this?

[nocturne sky]

Uh, no, not really

Anyways

I'll be reading documentation and odd files

[swift bison]

Look at how lost lord does it

[nocturne sky]

Be back when I have questions

[nocturne sky]

Where can I find the source for it?

[swift bison]

Github

I just search up hollow knight lost lord on google and it’s one of the first results

[nocturne sky]

Oh, alright

[swift bison]

Brb in about 10 mins

[nocturne sky]

Now that I have the project, I can build it and use it as it is, right?

Ciao

Oh boy, this looks long

[swift bison]

Nvm I’m back

[swift bison]

I’d just study the code from github

[nocturne sky]

Oh, I just meant in general

Anyhow, as I was saying

This is complex

[swift bison]

So it loads the png files into a texture, then makes a sprite from that texture, then in the boss, it sets the MainTexture of the material of the current sprite definition of the tk2dsprite component of lost kin to the texture of the sprite.

[nocturne sky]

Hm

I'll need to read it with your explanation next to it

[swift bison]

Here’s where it replaces the texture

[nocturne sky]

#archived-modding-development

[thorn schooner]

Wait you actually made it lmao

[nocturne sky]

What is that?

[lime bay]

It seems to make a phantom, hazard "clone" NKG spam uppercut and bats at you while you fight other bosses

[nocturne sky]

Holy damn that's cool

[wicked berry]

It seems a bit glitched on absrad. He'll often do the bats attack from very far off screen (way outside the arena)

Should be fine but thought I'd mention

[wicked berry]

Except they do overlap with his actual attacks

[teal meteor]

So, In my conversations with someone it turns out that GPLv3 may not be entirely a valid license for mods, though opinions of this may vary. (The argument here is that they're linking with Hollow Knight, which is not itself GPLv3). The simple fix for this would be to relicense said mods to be LGPL instead -- but that means getting the okay from (or removing the contributions from) everyone who has made contributions in the past. I'd also be interested in a strong counter argument, which is likely less work.

(I'm personally of the mind that Hollow Knight in this case falls more under the 'system libraries' bit and it's a non-issue, but I'm trying to come up with a strong argument to back that)

[weak plinth]

the mod coding written by others is allowed free and open usage by anyone else that wishes to use it though. there is nothing proprietary in nature about it and all code is open source

[teal meteor]

Yeah, I see that the code is open source. The issue I'm talking to (privately with someone else) is that the particular flavor of GPLv3 does not appear to be friendly to distribution of binaries of Hollow Knight mods because of this bit:

The "Corresponding Source" for a work in object code form means all the source code needed to generate, install, and (for an executable work) run the object code and to modify the work, including scripts to control those activities. However, it does not include the work's System Libraries, or general-purpose tools [...] For example, Corresponding Source includes interface definition files associated with source files for the work, and the source code for shared libraries and dynamically linked subprograms that the work is specifically designed to require

In short, unless you can find a way to count Hollow Knight as "a System Library" per the GPL's definition... since Hollow Knight mods by definition are specifically designed to require Hollow Knight, the issue is in distributing GPLv3'd binaries since the source for Hollow Knight itself is unavailable. The weird part here is this has no affect on distributing just the source code and requiring people to compile it on their own (because the "The Corresponding Source for a work in source code form is that
same work.")

There's two proper fixes: switch to LGPL or another FOSS license, or add an exception to the license for each mod to explicitly allow for linking. Either option requires permissions from all contributors to a particular GPL-licensed mod to change the license, of course.

[weak plinth]

i'm not sure what the issue is here. that is in the definition section.

it's just a definition of what a corresponding source is

[teal meteor]

6. Conveying Non-Source Forms.
   You may convey a covered work in object code form under the terms of sections 4 and 5, provided that you also convey the machine-readable Corresponding Source under the terms of this License, in one of these ways:[...]

That's where the issue is.

[weak plinth]

as allowed by copyright law, yes. but we cannot distribute the other code b/c it's covered by TC copyright

which is why we don't make the game freely available

[teal meteor]

Basically, the issue is the license is not possible to uphold -- the license requires us to distribute TC's source code, but we are not able to. Thus, technically distributing binaries of any Hollow Knight mods (unless you are the sole author or have permission from all authors, because you can do whatever you want as the copyright holder) is in violation of their license. If they're relicensed GPL or MIT or any number of other still-Free licenses this becomes a nonissue.

Of course then the question then is:

The "System Libraries" of an executable work include anything, other than the work as a whole, that (a) is included in the normal form of packaging a Major Component, but which is not part of that Major Component, and (b) serves only to enable use of the work with that Major Component, or to implement a Standard Interface for which an implementation is available to the public in source code form. A "Major Component", in this context, means a major essential component (kernel, window system, and so on) of the specific operating system (if any) on which the executable work runs, or a compiler used to produce the work, or an object code interpreter used to run it.

Can we argue that Hollow Knight is an operating system as far as mods for it are concerned? (Note: "operating system" is never formally defined in the license file). I think it's a bit of a stretch, but if we can the whole point is moot.

[weak plinth]

who cares.

call it whatever you want

the copyright holder of the original work has already given us the okay to do what we do. and all of our work since then is completely open source.

[teal meteor]

The original work here, in this case, is every single person who has contributed any code to a GPL3'd mod.

[weak plinth]

so even if the exact license wording isn't particularly accurate to this usage, who'd going to stop it

[teal meteor]

There are 5 of those for the current randomizer.

[weak plinth]

right. and they've agreed that all that code is available to anyone who wants to modify it

[teal meteor]

What's to say none of them will become disgruntled at someone something does later and say "Hey, you can't do that."

[weak plinth]

again, it's free and open for anyone to use

always has been

which is why we provide the source code for all mods

and why others have learned from other mods

and taken code from other mods to use in their own

[teal meteor]

And a simple relicense means it's never even remotely an issue.

[weak plinth]

it isn't one now

[teal meteor]

It COULD be.

[weak plinth]

lol

okay

[teal meteor]

I know, it's stupid legal CYA stuff. I don't personally care (though it makes me wary of contributing anything to an existing mod or using code from one myself), but it's such an easy fix

[weak plinth]

c) You must license the entire work, as a whole, under this License to anyone who comes into possession of a copy. This License will therefore apply, along with any applicable Section 7 additional terms, to the whole of the work, and all its parts, regardless of how they are packaged. This License gives no permission to license the work in any other way, but it does not invalidate such permission if you have separately received it. ... A compilation of a covered work with other separate and independent works, which are not by their nature extensions of the covered work, and which are not combined with it such as to form a larger program, in or on a volume of a storage or distribution medium, is called an "aggregate" if the compilation and its resulting copyright are not used to limit the access or legal rights of the compilation's users beyond what the individual works permit. Inclusion of a covered work in an aggregate does not cause this License to apply to the other parts of the aggregate.

i would call HK an aggregate

we received permission from the copyright holder. and all subsequent modding work falls under GPLv3, which is open to any who would want to use it

if you're worried about using code that others have written in making your own code, don't be. it's been done over and over and over again in this community

and is why some mods are where they are

[swift bison]

mickely wins

[steady elbow]

I really don't think anyone cares or pays attention to licenses in this community. The original randomizer license was added by @sullen siren, and I would be fine with relicensing if she is.

[sullen siren]

yeah I don't care

does your fork even have any of my code in it still?

[steady elbow]

I think most of the item-changing stuff around RandomizerAction is yours or modified from yours

The randomization part was completely gutted

[rapid burrow]

I mean technically speaking if tc wanted to sue us for anything regarding modding their game they probably could in the legal sense. Most laws, rules, thingies and stuffs like that seem made to protect the IP holders and owners, no matter what. And those are TC (or whatever we derive mods from), and we unfortunately don't have a single foot to stand on at all if that's the case

Unless we're millionaires, that is

So basically no point in caring

[swift bison]

lol

[rapid burrow]

Also luckily TC don't seem like they'll persecute modders in any near future either, so that's another plus

[hexed nimbus]

unless one of us manages to create silksong before they do

[swift bison]

Why would they even do that? If anything, we’re giving them more sales by making the pc version look better

[swift bison]

Challenge accepted

[weak plinth]

and they've already said they're fine with mods

so long as we don't put them on the steam workshop or distribute the game

[swift bison]

Yeah

[weak plinth]

and graig has played them a shit ton

and he's their QA dude

they know about mods, they don't care

I mean shit, this is their discord

[swift bison]

Yeah

[weak plinth]

we are on here

[swift bison]

Why would we be here if tc weren’t ok with it

[weak plinth]

for the memes

[raw lichen]

idk it would be pretty cool if we were here and tc didn't want us to be

[swift bison]

Yeah

[weak plinth]

yeah, like my ex gf

[hexed nimbus]

"but you see, it was funny"

[wicked berry]

mickely lore?

[swift bison]

would be better than silksong lore

[rapid burrow]

Silksong turns out to not be about hornet at all, it was all a ruse as hornet dies ten minutes in and mick is the protagonist for the rest of the series

[celest wigeon]

lmao

[fringe relic]

Can i get a modcommon link?

[swift bison]

Got mod installer?

[fringe relic]

yeah

[swift bison]

It’s on the list

[fringe relic]

is it modconsole?

[swift bison]

No

When did you get the installer?

[fringe relic]

35.6 seconds ago

[swift bison]

Screenshot or I don’t believe you

[fringe relic]

the list is alphabetical right/

[swift bison]

Modcommon is right next to modconsole

Yeah

Unless it’s mod installer 2 where mods that need to be updated appear at the top

[swift bison]

Scroll down

[fringe relic]

....

im ill

[swift bison]

?

You didn’t scroll at all

[fringe relic]

i picked the same image sorry

[swift bison]

K

[fringe relic]

what is wrong with me

one scord

ok

[swift bison]

.....

[fringe relic]

discord is bugged

finally

omg

[swift bison]

I think you scrolled too far

[fringe relic]

more saves is right after mod console

[swift bison]

Hmmm

Did you get the installer from the radiance.host link?

[fringe relic]

nexus

[swift bison]

Nexus bad

?i

[fringe relic]

nexus bad

[granite agate]

Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.

[fringe relic]

thanks

[swift bison]

Np

[fringe relic]

how do you configure the randomizer because it worked for the first room and then quit

[swift bison]

?

Wdym quit

[fringe relic]

like stopped randomizing

[swift bison]

And which randomizer?

[fringe relic]

enemy

[swift bison]

Did you wait for it to finish loading on the main menu

[fringe relic]

yeah

it randomized for the first room i went in and then as soon as i left the other hommies were not randomized

[swift bison]

Hmm

Do you mean they are consistently randomized or they aren’t randomized at all?

[fringe relic]

not at all

[swift bison]

Do you have seanprcore and modcommon installed

[fringe relic]

seanprcore?

that wasnt in the read me

[swift bison]

I thought it might require it

Just get modcommon, seanprcore, Vasi, and SFCore in case a mod uses them

What other mods do you have on

[fringe relic]

"This mod requires both the modding API and ModCommon"

where is this modding api

[swift bison]

Well you are already using mods so it’s already installed

Without it, mods are not loaded

[fringe relic]

confused i am

[swift bison]

The installer usually automatically installs it

[fringe relic]

randomizing not working mine

[swift bison]

What other mods do you have on

[fringe relic]

loading progress restart i do 😦

just random and the commonmod

works for now it does after restart game i do

come back with problem 10 minutes i will 😦

[teal meteor]

@sullen siren @steady elbow Delayed response but thanks for at least somewhat considering the issue. In this particular, I know someone who is interested in working on something related to Randomizer but is considering writing something from scratch because of the hypothetical license issue -- if it was cleared up (and LGPLing satisfies that) they'd feel a lot better about it. I can't talk about specifics though. I'm 99.9% sure nobody who actually has standing cares but there's a difference between having an unwritten agreement to just ignore a problem versus making a relatively simple change to just fix it.

I do know according to the Github contributors page there's three other people who'd need to sign off on such a change or have their contributions removed for it to be legitimate. I'm assuming that's a non-issue (assuming those three people are still reachable, and I know at least one of them is), but it is a concern.

@rapid burrow I don't think TC has any desire to sue regarding modding, nor do they have any standing to do so. The GPL issue I raised is that by my interpretation every binary distribution of a GPL'd mod is in violation with the mod's license. Only the mod author(s) have any standing here if they chose to do something about it, but it's still an (easily fixed) issue.

@weak plinth The aggregate case is for things like distributing a Linux install -- including something that's GPL as part of that distribution does not require the rest of the (unrelated) contents to be also be GPL. We aren't distributing Hollow Knight itself thus this doesn't apply. It might apply if, say, someone put together a modpack of unrelated mods that don't depend on each other and wanted to distribute it.

[swift bison]

Well that’s your friend’s problem then

[sullen siren]

nah it's a valid concern

[teal meteor]

It could too easily be used as a "I don't like what you're doing so I'm going to selectively sue you for being in violation of the license" thing if someone was disgruntled about something. I'm certain this was not the intended outcome by the folks who came up with the GPL but it just happens to be a weird side effect. I'm not insinuating someone here WOULD do that, but somebody wanting to make sure they're covered in all cases might. Just think of it as a bug report -- laws and licenses and whatnot are basically programs for how society works anyways.

[sullen siren]

we've had issues with one person at least but it was a long time ago and they're not around anymore

looks like captain dapper isn't here anymore but their discord is CaptainDapper#5940 if you want to try contacting directly

[teal meteor]

CaptainDapper's on the racing discord, I can ask them there. I also saw a couple commits from @random wraith and @toxic remnant ?

[toxic remnant]

What's this about?

[teal meteor]

TL;DR: Randomizer (and other Hollow Knight mods) are currently GPL. If you're willing to read through a long discussion, TL;DR: it technically looks like distributing binaries of mods with the license is technically in violation of the license because it depends on HK itself which we obviously can't distribute source code for. Changing the license to LGPL will fix it, but that needs the okay of everyone who has contributed code. You have a commit in the project in question.

[random wraith]

i wanted to swap to mpl anyways

idc

[teal meteor]

(MIT should fix it too, MPL might but I don't know the specifics of that license that well)

[random wraith]

lgpl but a bit less restrictive

[toxic remnant]

I don't really care enough about this to have an opinion on it.

[random wraith]

is gpl not the other way around though

you can't link against gpl without being gpl

[teal meteor]

Yeah I only mentioned LGPL because it seemed like the smallest change that fixes the root problem. Personally, all my modding content (for Factorio, mainly) is MIT.

[random wraith]

i hadn't heard the opposite

[teal meteor]

@random wraith The issue is distributed binaries need to include all the "Corresponding Source", which includes all shared libraries and such that the work is designed to require. Hollow Knight itself falls under that

The original intent there is to prevent you from distributing your fork of a GPL project that's been modified to require your proprietary non-FOSS thing, I think. But it has unintended side effects for... mods to games

At least compiled mods for games. Factorio mods are distributed as source anyways so it's a nonissue over there.

[celest wigeon]

HK mods require UnityEngine library, not HK library. so it is UnityEngine's Game System library.

if you dont agree, you mean I can't use GPL for a unity project?

[swift bison]

But we have to reference the assembly-csharp

[celest wigeon]

okey, so should I switch my projects to MIT? but who cares what license i use

[swift bison]

not me

[celest wigeon]

lmao

[teal meteor]

@celest wigeon It's a good question. https://github.com/unitystation/unitystation/issues/2057 also has a discussion on it that may or may not be applicable. And, the silly weird clause is: If you are the sole contributor/only person who holds the copyright for your entire mod, it's a moot point FOR YOU since you can distribute using any terms/license you want, but may be problematic for anyone down the chain distributing your work.

You also are allowed to, as the copyright holder, add an exemption to your license to specifically allow linking to Unity and other required tools or somesuch while still being otherwise GPL. Note that GPL allows derivative works to remove those exemptions but not add new ones.

See also https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs

My guess is: LGPL is the simplest fix that allows you to stay close to the spirit of GPL. MIT is extremely permissive -- there is nothing in MIT that prevents someone from making their own derivative work and selling it without source code as "The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software."

I should clarify: I am not a lawyer. And even if I was a lawyer, this is not legal advice.

[young shale]

Anyone know if u can mod hollow knight on switch?

[hexed nimbus]

yes: no

[young shale]

Oof ok

[rapid burrow]

copy/pasted from speedrunning:
btw is there any way to have hitbox mod on 1221 installed but have it be disabled by default (so i can start it the few times i need it rather than opposite)?

[nocturne sky]

Oh my

What happened here

Something about legal stuff?

[cloud arch]

hi is there a mod to do path of pain multiple times in the same save?

[raw lichen]

QoL

[cloud arch]

thank you

[crisp fable]

hey is there any mod that makes dream gate cost no esensens

[swift bison]

no

[crisp fable]

ok

[grave bolt]

it costs one essence

[random wraith]

@teal meteor does the issue you link not literally disagree

I don't see how mods aren't considered plugins by any sane definition

Considering valve and unity seem to agree there's precedent anyways

While I don't particularly care about relicensing of my contribution I think this is a non-issue

[grave bolt]

Any custom knight skins people can recommend?

[half warren]

I made this in like 5 minutes I'd like to see someone beat PV with it

This is a joke btw i am tired it is 7:51

[half warren]

No but more seriously here are two that took me ages

just reply to the post instead of saying 'to answer superx7's question,' like it is much easier to just reply

[mellow vale]

thx, i did not know that

[half warren]

np

[mellow vale]

You will always have to spend essence on dream gates. However, you can use the debug mod to give yourself more essence

[abstract hornet]

What curious mod is this?

[swift bison]

Coming soon now: Custom Pantheon

[wicked berry]

Rearranging pantheons?

oh shit

How do you access the editor mode, if that's what this is?

[grave bolt]

Thanks!

[wicked berry]

@swift bison what would this mod be?

[grave bolt]

im loading it to see what it is

[wicked berry]

I've noticed the added pantheon, but there's only PV in it.

Also, the shell binding reduces to 5 masks instead of 4

pretty cool adding a whole new pantheon though

[swift bison]

You edit the global settings to have the list of rooms for the pantheon

[wicked berry]

Gotcha

[grizzled steppe]

Pantheon with only markoth, gpz, nkg, pv and absrad

[woeful pebble]

If I add mods does it mess with my current saves at all?

[hexed nimbus]

the potential is there, especially with mods like the debug mod

[jade zodiac]

would it be possible to change all/some the sprites in game into 3d models?

[jovial cove]

If somebody wants to be very cool, they should make a mode where you start the game with 100 lifeblood masks and that's it, no refreshing/healing at all

[swift bison]

Challenge

not accepted bc I’m tired of modding on my slow pc

[swift bison]

I had a similar idea at one point but didn’t put enough effort into it.

[jovial cove]

I should also add that I meant for this to be steel soul, not just 100 masks on respawn lol

[jade zodiac]

what kind of work would i need to do to make it happen

like even for just the knight

[swift bison]

My idea was 3D collision, giving the knight the ability to move on the z axis, and camera moving

[jade zodiac]

like could i model and animate it and someone who actually knows what their doing could mod it into the game?

im not even talking about messing with how the game works

[swift bison]

It would take a lot of work for the animations tho since every instance of the animation on the knight would need to be changed to the 3D stuff

[jade zodiac]

just overlay a 3d model over the sprite

[jade zodiac]

i would be willing to animate it

[swift bison]

I’m too busy with other stuff tho

Sorry

[jade zodiac]

its ok i understand

[jovial cove]

I imagine if you make the model, could you not just replace the sprites and have it look like super smash Bros 3d?

[jade zodiac]

yh thats what i was thinking

is there a guide to gettingn into modding this game?

ive looked through the pins

[swift bison]

@jovial cove again, you’d have to replace every instance of animations changing and other stuff to animate the 3D models instead

I’ll get it

[jade zodiac]

tysm

[swift bison]

https://radiance.host/apidocs/

[jade zodiac]

i would love to start a project with the goal of doing this for every character in the game

[jovial cove]

What do you mean animations changing? There's a set amount of states the knight's sprite can be in, no? So, if you make a 3d model, position it to each state, and replace the 2d sprite position with a 3d sprite position would it not essentially make it 3d?

[swift bison]

Wdym 2d sprite position?

I guess you have a point.

Make a child of the knight, give it the 3D model. Check every frame if the animation is different than the knight’s then make it play the animation the knight is playing

[jovial cove]

Well, all the animations in 2d games are comprised of multiple still images right?

So somewhere in the game files, there's a whole bunch of pictures of the knight in different positions

Replace them with pictures of a 3d knight

[jade zodiac]

that could work

but what i want to do is put an actual 3d model into the game

one that interacts with the light and everything

[jovial cove]

Ahhh

Well that's a fuck ton of work

To re-code all the lighting?

[swift bison]

See what I’m saying?

Difficult stuff

Also you can already replace the knight sprites

[jade zodiac]

i guess i can try this and see how it looks

[swift bison]

Putting a child of the knight with a 3D model should be easy

[jade zodiac]

ive already got the model made

[swift bison]

Lighting is impossible(to me at least)

[jovial cove]

Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying, I would just personally replace the sprites with a 3d sprite, lighting seems near unachievable

You'd have to re-code the entire map and lighting

[swift bison]

I’m not talking about putting it over the sprites

I’m talking about making it closer to the camera than the 2d knight

So you see the 3D instead of 2d

You could also probably make the knight invisible

[jade zodiac]

well wouldnt the 3d model wrap around the 2d one

[swift bison]

?

[jade zodiac]

even on the same layer

[swift bison]

I guess

[jade zodiac]

like this

[swift bison]

Well you see the 2d square is still poking out

[jade zodiac]

from the front the cube occludes the plane

well in this example

[swift bison]

So make the knight invisible probably by disabling all the tk2d components to avoid any problems

[jade zodiac]

you would want the 3d model of the knight to be the same size as the 2d

[swift bison]

Well if you think about it, the 2d sprite is constantly changing

So it’s likely that it’s position would be desynced for a couple frames

[jade zodiac]

what if i had posed versions of the 3d model

in all the same positions as the 2d sprite

so whenever the game calls for a certain position

[swift bison]

Good point but how would you do that

[jade zodiac]

it also calls for the same 3d one

[swift bison]

You’d need a exact clone of the knight

[jade zodiac]

well if the 2d one is invisible like you said then not exactly the same

[swift bison]

Wdym

?

[jade zodiac]

so in the game

[swift bison]

How would it be different

[jade zodiac]

there is the 2d sprite

[swift bison]

It would have the exact same collision

[jade zodiac]

and the 3d sprite in the same position and same pose

the 3d model doesnt interact with the game in anyway

[swift bison]

So?

[jade zodiac]

its just a cosmetic difference

[swift bison]

The collision from 2d in my way doesn’t change

You are just placing a 3D model on top of a invisible knight

[jade zodiac]

yh

[swift bison]

I’m confused if we are arguing or agreeing

[jade zodiac]

well neither i dont know enough to argue or agree

[swift bison]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jade zodiac]

is there a guide to making custom skins

[swift bison]

Pins. Spritepacker tutorial

[jade zodiac]

great thanks so much

youve been a big help

:)

[swift bison]

I suggest not making it a skin tho. Really low quality plus doing like 1000 frames

[jade zodiac]

i dont know how to mod though

[swift bison]

Good point

[jade zodiac]

posing a bunch of models and rendering doesnt seem too hard

just time consuming

[teal meteor]

Other than the Christmas Knight skin, are there any sort of holiday-themed mods for Hollow Knight?

[errant lance]

blood knight is pretty good

[dry snow]

theres halloween but its a twp challenge skin

dont know if its still available

[swift bison]

wasn't it publicly released a while ago?

after it was taken off the list?

[dry snow]

not sure

i got caught up with other things and stopped playing hollow knight for a few months

[minor tinsel]

yeah it's public you can find it in twp drive or in pins

[flat tapir]

New skin. Laurel Knight by Raistly https://youtu.be/eub4wVLcLu8

Yeah the Halloween skin is public now

[viscid aspen]

tbh ive always wondered on how to submit skins to the TWP

cuz im interested

[flat tapir]

And the Christmas skin is also public https://youtu.be/gSlGuj7zJNA

[flat tapir]

When members of our group have made new skin, they come to me for help putting it on YouTube and discord

They will send the document to me directly

[viscid aspen]

i wonder if its just group only or if there's volunteers?

[flat tapir]

I don't quite understand

[viscid aspen]

like are there volunteers who can submit skins to the TWP drive or is it strictly group only?

[flat tapir]

Most of the time just group, and sometimes we ask people if we can help advertise their skin if we have a good relationship. And that's rare, because some skin makers would mind being identified as members of our group, and I don't want to bother them)

[viscid aspen]

aight thanks!

[crisp fable]

just want to thank everone who helped the modding comminty thank ya all for all your help

[nocturne sky]

Um
I personally didn't do much yet
But
You're welcome

[mystic shale]

where do u find the benchwarp mod? its not in any mod sites or in the mod installer mod

[errant lance]

its in the modinstaller

[mystic shale]

wats it called

[minor tinsel]

benchwarp

[swift bison]

[mystic shale]

i dont see it tho im in mod manager is that the wrong one?

no it looks right ill recheck the mods avaliable

[swift bison]

Where did you get it

[mystic shale]

https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fradiance.host%2Fmods%2FModInstaller.exe&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbk1xR1MxZWNXaExUSERTM3VkVjRSSVVvTENmUXxBQ3Jtc0trYnRaS3BZWUVZVmhGY0R4bGpaUmtTTDlIakdkcXE4VDBZSVdYNnYzVUtlT0ZyRGxvVEkzUHRNLTU1OW1SZF9BcWc2cFdEWHRzZUExclV3dnpmQ2hJVG5Qb3ZzdTQzNW5kV1pWbXpqT292Y29acFFTNA%3D%3D&v=tQu5cdlytGE&event=video_description

that giant link

[swift bison]

Why that giant link

[mystic shale]

lmao idk just is it right or where do i need to go to find it if not?

[swift bison]

I can see bits and pieces of the correct link

https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe

[mystic shale]

ye thats it

[swift bison]

Screenshot the b section if it’s not there

[mystic shale]

wdym by "b section"

[swift bison]

The installer’s list is alphabetical

[mystic shale]

ah shit ur right it is there

[swift bison]

Mods that start with b

[mystic shale]

ok dumb

[bright quiver]

So, I want to start a new run after losing my 112% Steel Soul to the fight in PoP, any recommendations between Child of Light, Blackmoth, Lightbringer, or any similar mods?

[sullen dock]

zaliant dirtmouth clip. idk this is a beta or finished version

https://b23.tv/2hAbFH

[serene totem]

can't wait for the silksong gun mod

[mystic shale]

which bench is closest to the nailsmith?

[barren wharf]

Hello guys

I am making a Custom Knight

Valentine's Knight

[red eagle]

Out of curiosity, how are mods created? Can we modify legacy code? What language do we work in?

I have never created a mod before, but I'd like to make a new or modify the existing multiplayer hk mod depending on how easy / hard it is

Sooooo... do you know anything about making mods?

[hybrid carbon]

hello? may i ask for help with something-

if anyone is familiar with bugs/glitches

[errant lance]

might just wanna skip to what you actually need help with

[hybrid carbon]

Um, so, when I click start game it shows the exit window, i tried reinstalling the game but that didn't help

Even though yesterday it was working fine, but it wouldn't show the exit window when I clicked exit

So I closed it from task manager

[balmy wraith]

trying to disable all the mods. It maybe helped.

[hybrid carbon]

How to do that?

[silver garden]

Open mod installer and clock revert to vanilla

Or revert to unmodded

I forget what it's actually called

Then go to steam, right click on hollow knight, and click properties and find "Verify integrity of game files"

You can try adding mods back one at a time to see what the problem was.

[hybrid carbon]

How to open that-

Sorry if I'm asking a lot-

[silver garden]

Did you not download your mods using mod installer?

[hybrid carbon]

I used steam

[silver garden]

Oh then I've no idea. I didn't even know you could get mods through steam, sorry.

[hybrid carbon]

I don't think my game is modded

[silver garden]

Oh

Just right click your game and click verify integrity of game files.

If that doesn't work I would uninstall and reinstall it.

[hybrid carbon]

Alright, tysm

Both ways didn't work..

[stiff wolf]

I don't know what you mean by "closing window", I don't get anything of that description when I close the game from steam... I guess there's a problem with how your computer is treating the game?? Did you do anything unusual when you closed the game from task manager????

[hybrid carbon]

@stiff wolf closing window is what shows when you click "exit game" and before I closed the game from task manager the game never let me exit normally when I pressed exit

[stiff wolf]

The "quit game, yes or no" dialogue within hk? If so I am just slightly confused by your wording. Anyway I don't know why your problem is happening, sorry

[hybrid carbon]

Yes that's what I meant

And it's ok, ty for responding to my question

[silver garden]

Is there any way you could screenshot or video what your issue is? This seems very odd.

[hybrid carbon]

I will

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755856271504310433/791661021101293578/2020-12-24_16-34-46.mp4

@silver garden ^

Oh wait its lagging

[silver garden]

Yeah, I caught the start but nothing else, but it does show about enough, I think.

I really can't be any help here, sorry. It's kind of baffling. Somebody might know of a specific file or folder that you could delete to sort it, though.

Might be worth uninstalling and then manually deleting everything.

Move your save files to a different folder to keep them and just start completely from scratch. Uninstalling might not be getting rid of everything.

But I'm literally guessing here.

[hybrid carbon]

I'll wait then.. again tysm

[faint knoll]

Peace, I have same problem that you

[sleek gale]

does anyone know which mod is the infinite soul mod?

[raw lichen]

Debug Mod

[sleek gale]

thanks

[swift bison]

How did you install mods? “Steam” doesn’t answer the question. Did you use mod installer, or mod installer 2, or neither

[hybrid carbon]

@swift bison I'm honestly not sure what a mod installer is.. When I bought the game it literally tells you to install it on steam launcher then I opened it

[swift bison]

It’s a app called either “Mod installer” or “Mod installer 2”

Usually people get both from this discord

So are you using a app by the name of that?

You don’t install mods through steam. You can install hollow knight through steam and mod it with a mod installer, but there is no modding directly through steam

[hybrid carbon]

I don't think I used any, literally all I did was open the game

[swift bison]

Well what did you do to install mods?

Unless you didn’t install mods at all, in which case we can’t do much

[hybrid carbon]

Oh well..

[swift bison]

Do all the options on the main menu do that?

[hybrid carbon]

Yes

Even if u clicked an empty space

It does that

[swift bison]

Are you by chance using a controller

[hybrid carbon]

No, just a keyboard

[swift bison]

Hmmm

Are you pressing esc at the same time as clicking?

[hybrid carbon]

I don't think so

[swift bison]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hybrid carbon]

Sigh..

Ty for responding, I appreciate it

[silver garden]

Can you navigate using only keyboard and then press space bar instead of clicking?

[neon wasp]

Where can I get skins for the Hollow Knight mods?

I can't find them

nvm I got it

[stray nimbus]

made a very simple custom knight mod

:)

its visual sandpaper, just how i like it

[night halo]

good job

looks cool

[indigo nymph]

found out about a cyberknight mod

[swift bison]

Tmk there’s nothing released or coded

[indigo nymph]

Huh

[barren wharf]

I have a design for a Custom Knight 😄

You guys wanna see it?

[scarlet moss]

yeah

[daring echo]

does anyone know where i can find atomic radiance?

[mint anvil]

So I had a few silly ideas for mods and was wondering where a good place to start would be?

[misty onyx]

Guys do you know why hollow point isn't working properly on my game?

[brittle egret]

did you make a new save