modding-discussion

[foggy ore]

Blackmoth was born of the same general idea

[dry snow]

What’s that

[foggy ore]

Yeah

My first mod

[dry snow]

Ah

[foggy ore]

That's my point

[vestal cradle]

I thought bonfire was your first mod

[foggy ore]

That was the monster I became ching

[vestal cradle]

i see

[foggy ore]

It truly is

But yeah

It's fine to have ideas

But precisely because you have ideas you should do something with them

Otherwise you just might be wasting a perfectly good idea

This

But in some ways bonfire was very useful

Lots of new mod tech came from it

[sonic moon]

Imma write down my ideas a bit. At least some

[vestal cradle]

I have been writing my ideas down in notepad for the last couple days or so

[foggy ore]

Now I gotta go

Have fun kids

[vestal cradle]

except they aren’t hk mod ideas but potato potato

wow that does not work in text form

[dry snow]

I'm gonna turn ching into a mod

[vestal cradle]

😳

[dry snow]

congratulations

[sonic moon]

Anyway, their deity is a lunar spirit. I'm using Shadownest as a placeholder right now.

That spirit blessed those beneath her with light crystals that illuminate the world and bring beautiful music.

Why?

Never heard of it.

I'm all over the lore and that's about it

Anyway... well something their lunar spirit gifted them with can corrupt under certain circumstances

[weak plinth]

make em void stones

[sonic moon]

Well, the corrupt mode is dark purple

[weak plinth]

radiance don't like void

[sonic moon]

The pure mode is white/soft glowy cyan

Well... I have a moon theme going on here

No

It's got a moon themed deity and they have soft light in their world

The light is gentle and rarely bad, but can be bad sometimes

[weak plinth]

the themes of HK.
light and dark (rad/void)
dreams and nightmares (rad/NKG)
and coming soon..... moon

sun and moon?

[sonic moon]

Well Shadownest is in perpetual night

[errant lance]

i have a modding idea but i am not a modder so i need your help to make it happen, all i need is your credit card number and the 3 digits on the back

[sonic moon]

...

[weak plinth]

1234567890

and 111

[errant lance]

thank you mick

[sonic moon]

Why do I feel like I'm being made fun of here.

[errant lance]

mine was unrelated

i need money to bribe Saleh somehow

[sonic moon]

Oh

[raw lichen]

smh let Fantasy discuss their modding ideas here in peace. The description of the channel says "Discuss mods and modding ideas pertaining to Hollow Knight."

[errant lance]

get to work on my Mask Man mod

[raw lichen]

draw it

[errant lance]

@ mebi

[weak plinth]

crescent cave

[sonic moon]

I need to name my nest properly...

It has a moonlit grove/grotto theme

[weak plinth]

yeah, like a cave or cavern

these are synonyms

[sonic moon]

More of a forest clearing actually with a spring

Overall theme

[weak plinth]

right, cuz caves can't be huge

[sonic moon]

Okay...
pond in the woods at night. The moon is full and shining down on it while the trees give the pool space.

I can try

Their deity is benevolent but its gifts aren't always

[weak plinth]

if it's open air in a forest clearing, what's stopping radiance from getting in?

[sonic moon]

It just... doesn't.

Idk why honestly

[weak plinth]

ah right. my favorite lore mechanic

[sonic moon]

Either it doesn't or the moon deity keeps it out

[weak plinth]

"it just doesn't"

"it works because The Force"

[sonic moon]

!!!

[weak plinth]

ozone layer of the moon........

[sonic moon]

The moon deity fights the Radiance off when it shows up with malice

That leaves the presents she gives unsupervised and therefore corruptible

I still need to name their moon deity something

I have something in mind but it's generic

[weak plinth]

Dave

[sonic moon]

It's a girl.

[weak plinth]

Davie

who says Dave can't be a girl

smh

[sonic moon]

The Lunar Spirit

I really have nothing better right now

[weak plinth]

Moon Mama

[sonic moon]

[weak plinth]

Dark Sun Gwyndolin

[sonic moon]

That's better, but doesn't work yet

Pluta. Ceres.

Still can't find anything that rings right!

[weak plinth]

Gruntilda

[sonic moon]

Aaaargh I want to give her a serene name

[weak plinth]

the iridescent one

[sonic moon]

Iridia.

Still not quite right, but getting there

Iridiana. Viridia. Vivian. Irdiana. Irdina.

[weak plinth]

u salty bro?

[sonic moon]

Me? No. Irritated? Yes.

[weak plinth]

course i did

[sonic moon]

Now I get it.

And I say Na I'm out.

[weak plinth]

[sonic moon]

To name a moon goddess...

Name generators, here I come.

[vast prairie]

@weak plinth there's difference in light, too, with Pale King and the Radiance

[weak plinth]

they're both light tho

the contrast there is more like...... assimilation vs free will

[vast prairie]

yeah you can put the difference like that, too

[sonic moon]

Still need help with naming her urgh

[vast prairie]

ey, Fantasy

art-discussion's probably got people more enthusiastic to help with developing the ideas

did you ask there?

[sonic moon]

Not yet

[weak plinth]

or #hk-lore

[vagrant cape]

there's some mod that is making my die instantly, which one of these is it???

[weak plinth]

elderbug god

also you have way too much installed

and enemyHPbar is broken

[foggy ore]

How dare you papers

I'm perfectly capable of giving nice suggestions

Try me

[weak plinth]

what should I change my name to IRL

[foggy ore]

Mickey

No one would notice

[weak plinth]

some people might

[vagrant cape]

The large amounts of mods were intended but thanks!

[foggy ore]

I doubt it

[weak plinth]

whoever wrote it

[foggy ore]

@sonic moon just my 2cents, but instead of coming up with something entirely new, maybe try thinking of how your idea fits within the existing universe of the game, and how your idea could expand upon it and maybe even add some layers of complexity to it

[sonic moon]

yeah, you're right

thanks

[cunning tinsel]

Does anyone know the creator of the Hollow Point mod (aka a vessel with a freaking AK47?)

[errant lance]

ttaco

[foggy ore]

@brittle egret

Someone wants to shake your hand my dude

[brittle egret]

🤝

[foggy ore]

It's me

Shake my hand

[brittle egret]

ill shake your hand anytime buddy 😤

[foggy ore]

Wow such a good friend

[vestal cradle]

taco shake me

[brittle egret]

sure

[foggy ore]

Dude

They made fanart of your mod

That's amazing

[brittle egret]

yee they showed it to me earlier, loved it

[alpine ether]

ttacco getting popular

always remember that i made you

[foggy ore]

Always remember that I made you both

[vast prairie]

also

I dropped a different version of EnemyHPbars

@random wraith any updates on it

[foggy ore]

Wait what

You mean the bar art?

Or did you fix the mod?

[random wraith]

no

[foggy ore]

56 why

[brittle egret]

technically only sid made me

[foggy ore]

I made you a happy man

[alpine ether]

don’t worry ttacco, gradow has suboptimal iq

i am your true owner

the one with the higher intelligence

[foggy ore]

That is verifiably untrue

One just needs to look at our waifu ratings to see how my iq is clearly superior

[alpine ether]

looking at waifu scores would prove my point even further

[brittle egret]

i understand, gradow always gives 9 to the worst possible waifus

[foggy ore]

u

but @vast prairie what were you talking about hpbars?

[vast prairie]

I have a version that I'm using and the game isn't unplayable

[foggy ore]

wtf

does it lag after poking enemies?

I find it weird because I cannot reproduce this issue

it never lags for me

[vast prairie]

no leg

lag

yes leg tho

leg is good

[candid harbor]

Leg is love, leg is life
Lag is hate, lag is death

[foggy ore]

I've been playing for 30min

no lag still

[candid harbor]

So I came here from reddit (I do not use it often but I had to for this) after seeing a video of the ak-47 mod and I am wondering where I can find that

[foggy ore]

just cleared CoT and Soul Master

no lag whatsoever

I'm gonna disregard everyone who claims enemyhpbar is broken

because I can't reproduce the issue

[brittle egret]

@candid harbor buddy, friend, pal, uhhh, its unfinished but you can check #archived-modding-development pins for it

[foggy ore]

double taco

[brittle egret]

double fan of knives

[foggy ore]

double miss

[foggy ore]

seriously tho

can anyone confirm any issues with enemyhpbar?

because they're just not happening with me

[alpine ether]

imagine being active in modding

[foggy ore]

no replies in 10+ minutes

gonna take that as a no

[errant lance]

my performance looks around the same with and without it but i am getting some freezes with enemyhpbar and dips to like 180fps

without - https://puu.sh/F2yLY/af8e6f7e69.png
with - https://puu.sh/F2yI4/fb52b78b40.png

ram seems to spike more too

but both seemed to spike about as high

[foggy ore]

how much is it normally

your fps

[errant lance]

240

[foggy ore]

hm

[errant lance]

my fps seems to be capped even though framerate cap is off 🤷

[foggy ore]

lemme test this

[foggy ore]

ok, streaming for testing

[weak plinth]

look out, mick is online

[foggy ore]

ok

so I didn't get any frame drops

I got some freezes

but they were not constant

and seemed to happen when the enemy spawned

hard to tell at the collosseum

[errant lance]

i got some freezes as well, also tested in colo (idk if i mentioned that)

also realized i had g-sync on that capped my fps to my refresh rate so i disabled it and instead of 240 i usually sit around 380

[coarse bluff]

Hi

Where can i find gun mode

I dont see it in the installer

[errant lance]

#archived-modding-development pins

[naive minnow]

Not been implemented into installer yet, might be because it's stated to not be finished yet

[bright wing]

New World Mod:

The world of Silksong is modified so that the Knight can explore it.

And vice versa.

What would you think?

[errant lance]

its probably gonna be the first mod lol

or vice versa

[naive minnow]

Isn't there a mod out already to let you look like hornet?

Or just Zote?

[bright wing]

You misunderstand

What I'm thinking is a tram in Kingdom's Edge that leads to Pharloom.

[vast prairie]

oh

[dry snow]

hmmmmmm

[vast prairie]

jesus no that will be a pain to code

also probably ridiculously massive if a mod

[bright wing]

NPC dialogue will have to be changed, purchasing options would have ot be removed.

Anything else?

[vast prairie]

it will require importing just about all the rooms from Silksong into Hollow Knight

just a moment

Hollow Knight has ~7.3GB worth of rooms

and assets

(basically the entirety of your hollow_knight_data folder)

we can probably assume Silksong will have jsut as much if not more

what you request is a 10GB mod

also editing all the dialogue's ridiculous

[weak plinth]

or a simpler way would be to implement a new character with all movement, etc into silksong

and just have both games running simultaneously

[vast prairie]

yeah it'd just be easier to implement the knight into silksong

and just

play silksong, but as the knight

[weak plinth]

which is still a huge change

btw

[foggy ore]

yes

but feasible

and will happen at some point

just like SS's hornet in HK

[weak plinth]

thankfully most of the work is contained in HK

just need to "move" it

[foggy ore]

yeah

just need to import Hornet and her moveset basically

[raw lichen]

can't wait for the tc reveal that silksong is actually being made in pygame

[foggy ore]

can't wait for the tc reveal that silksong is actually being made in ren'py

[left canyon]

no god please no

[bright wing]

whats pygame and renpy

[left canyon]

pygame is a python game engine

and ren'py is another python game engine made for visual novels

ren'py powers DDLC

pygame powers...

what does pygame power?

[abstract hornet]

Can't wait for the reveal that Silksong is our answer to a Hollow Knight dating sim.

[worn sable]

does anybody know what key is for switching to your gun in the hollow point mod?

[abstract hornet]

It's the quick cast button. Should be F I think.

[worn sable]

thanks

[untold ledge]

Hey, what's the best setup for a randomizer run?

There's multiple randomizer mods and Idk which ones are best/compatible

There's, let's see... enemy randomizer, randomizer 2, randomizer 3, and chaos mod

Don't use enemy randomizer?

What does rando 2 do?

I activated rando 3 and all the rooms were in the same config

I had enemy rando, rando 2 and rando 3 active

none of the readmes work

don't know what anything does

They all do enemy randomization then?

I'm more confused than when I started

Ideally I'd like random enemies, random items/charms, and random rooms, if that's possible

Okay

Wtf is the use of rando 2 then?

They really should have given better titles

[left canyon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7ZCuWwc5xs

where can i get this

nvm it isn't finished

there is a discord server tho

[raw lichen]

#archived-modding-development pins

[left canyon]

@orchid crown amazing job m8

[foggy ore]

It was made by @brittle egret tho

[brittle egret]

wrong

it was made by all of us

😩

[vast prairie]

okay but who made TTacco

[brittle egret]

@alpine ether

[sharp raft]

Any new updates with the mod btw?

[brittle egret]

i havent touched it that much because of classes starting last week, im thinking of just doing a couple of bug fixes calling it a release if i get the time

[left canyon]

let's say i wanted to stop time for everything except the knight

how could i go accomplishing that

[foggy ore]

you want to make a mod that does that?

idk

maybe they want superpowers

like

JoJo style

STAND

[raw lichen]

you could make something not be affected by Time.scaleTime by having it move with Time.unscaledDeltaTime rather than Time.deltaTime

so the most obvious (but probably most annoying way) I can think of doing that would be to redo the knight's movement with TIme.unscaledDeltaTime

[foggy ore]

call it the ZA WARUDO mod

[dapper root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/498327533209649152/webmjojo.webm

[finite flare]

It’s not finished when you add the time stop. It’s finished when you add the sound effect.

[alpine ether]

i can indeed confirm that i am the creator of ttaccoo

[foggy ore]

ttaaccoo

[weak plinth]

bbbbbbuuurrrrriiiittttooooooooooo

[dry snow]

Mods are cool

[elder mauve]

On a scale from 1 to 10 how easy is it for you guys to figure out what has been set in Unity Inspector Variables?

[foggy ore]

-pi

[elder mauve]

Really?

That would imply it is giga hard

[left canyon]

thats exactly what i wanted to make

i wanted to add za warudo to hollow knight

[abstract vortex]

is there a co op mod yet?

[foggy ore]

only dreamshield

and multiworld

so no

and there will prolly never be one

[abstract vortex]

what is dream shield and multiworld

🐞

[errant lance]

Dreamshield Co-Op: Adds a controllable Dreamshield alongside the player character (ded)
multiworld : rando 2 but you find stuff for other people and they find stuf for you

[sharp raft]

I don’t think dreamshield mod works anymore

[abstract vortex]

does multiworld?

[weak plinth]

Yes

Used it 2 days ago

[weak plinth]

Yeah, but it doesn't work anymore

[vestal cradle]

i used multiworld last night and it went fine

[abstract vortex]

Wait where i download

[errant lance]

#randomizer

[vestal cradle]

rando doubles race when

[steady elbow]

any rando race when

[nimble sky]

i havent figured out how to use benchwarp

[hasty python]

I played the room randomization mode for the randomizer and had to give up after half an hour. I didn't find a single item aside from crystal heart. Was pretty cool, though I'll stick with regular item randomizer, me thinks.

[foggy ore]

do you know any speedrun tech

skips and stuff

[hasty python]

Nope! I'm a filthy casual~

So I basically just dove into the deep end without any floatation devices and I can't swim.

[foggy ore]

basically yeah

specially with cursed

[hasty python]

What does cursed do?

[foggy ore]

curses you

you're now 0.0001cm shorter

[hasty python]

Does it make my hitbox smaller?

[foggy ore]

no

you irl

iirc it replaces all non-essential items with 1 geo

[naive minnow]

So I tried out the Bonfire mod. It made Dung Defender take at least 2x longer, probably more

Is that normal for the bosses?

[tough basin]

hey im thinking of getting back into a bit of rando

do people use rando 2 or 3? and what is randomapmod?

[weak plinth]

3

randomapmod does nothing for 3

it puts pins on your map for what you can currently reach

but only works with rando 2

[tough basin]

ok thanks man

what are spicy skips?

the rest i understand

[weak plinth]

harder skips

like.... pogos and shit

[tough basin]

ehh fuck it im just turning it all on... is super junk pit mode too retarded?

ill just try it out

[ripe anchor]

oh hello Graig

[charred radish]

has anyone decompiled the game so I can browse through the sprites and stuff?

[vast prairie]

@charred radish #art-discussion pins

2nd pin

(from the bottom up)

(so, 2nd pin ever, chronologically)

[charred radish]

cheers

[sharp raft]

if graig has time to play HK rando, then that means he doesn't really need to playtest SS more
aka that means silksong done

[vast prairie]

pff

sound logic

[foggy ore]

Makes sense

[brittle egret]

or it means graig has been having severe silksong play testing drought that hes pretty much depending on rando runs to satiate himself

[foggy ore]

Bruh

Why are you TTacco

[errant lance]

if graig starts religiously playing hollow point does this mean hornet will dual wield 2 mp7's in SS 🤔

[foggy ore]

Silksong morelike akimbo

[worldly raptor]

got em'

[brittle egret]

🤔

[elfin rivet]

Accidentally changed the timescale with the debug mod, default timescale is 1 right

[vast prairie]

yeah

[lean current]

What does the hollow point mod do?

[weak plinth]

Give gun

[lean current]

Yeah but how's the damage output of it?

[errant lance]

there's videos of it you can see the damage

[lean current]

I meant in like numerical terms

It feels way too hihg

[vast prairie]

it is, indeed, way too hihg

[sharp raft]

Would it be possible to create mod profiles?

[vast prairie]

as in?

[sharp raft]

In the mod loader

To just add a feature where you can select profiles

[vast prairie]

ah

[sharp raft]

With custom mods for each one

thought it might be useful

[vast prairie]

shrug

probably

[brittle egret]

@lean current its unbalanced (and still is probably) by then but it was like, 3 base damage + 3 * nailUpgrades

what makes it really op is the firerate and the lack of soul cost

[alpine ether]

no it's balanced

don't touch it

[foggy ore]

ara

how fare thou coding experiences

[brittle egret]

no im nerfing most of it and its mostly gradows fault

[foggy ore]

no

f u ttacco

why are you like this

why

you're always like this

that's why we're going to couples therapy

[alpine ether]

cursed

i can't imagine gradow x ttacco

[brittle egret]

😳

[foggy ore]

you don't touch me like you used to

[abstract hornet]

I think it's more a combo of charms that make it really OP. Fury and ones like Soul Eater are really strong.

[alpine ether]

gradow do you wanna get back to modding hk?

[foggy ore]

kinda sid

also, cranky

quickslash breaks the game

100%

[abstract hornet]

That too.

[alpine ether]

finish my mod for me

[foggy ore]

anything else you add on top of that is just icing

delicious creamy icing

[errant lance]

finish deadly nightmares

[foggy ore]

shush sid

[brittle egret]

i didnt nerf fury because the downside is good enough but Soul Eater and QS are getting beaned

[errant lance]

royal dreamer when

[alpine ether]

u shush buddy

[foggy ore]

I do my own thing

[brittle egret]

shush more like

😳

[foggy ore]

no ttacco

please don't

please

I promise never to mock your misses ever again

[alpine ether]

ttacco leave him if he doesn't finish the mod

[brittle egret]

play divinity and i wont

[foggy ore]

because if you do nerf it

that's just another MISSED oportunity

[brittle egret]

i will yeet you buddy

[alpine ether]

just so you know, ttacco's accuracy is over 1000% now

[brittle egret]

it doesnt matter as long as fan of knives hit

[limpid tiger]

Pfffffff

I try out redwing.

And immediately break it twice within 30 minutes.

[quasi oar]

I have a question

I installed the hollow point mod

How do I make the gun shoot infinitely

[foggy ore]

What

[limpid tiger]

Well, you shoot the enemies.

And then you use the soul from shooting them to shoot them more.

[quasi oar]

cool

[sharp raft]

Wasn’t there a mod in progress where the Knight does THK focus attack?

Or, PV

[raw lichen]

five knights mod

[foggy ore]

5 Knights at Graddy's

[sharp raft]

That’s something different though, no?

I thought the PV focus was its own mod

[raw lichen]

not if we're thinking of the same pv focus

[sharp raft]

It does that AOE attack focus

[raw lichen]

like this?

[sharp raft]

Hold on video ain’t loading

Can you just take a screenshot of the Knight doing it?

[raw lichen]

it's the knight abyss shrieking but pv orbs coming out instead

[sharp raft]

I’ll have to get back on that later, video ain’t loading

[naive minnow]

How does one get more range on the gun with Hollow Point?

Without it losing accuracy preferably

[foggy ore]

Use sniper modification

[dry snow]

the PV focus attack is part of five knights

[sharp raft]

Would that be like, a reward for beating the five knights?

[dry snow]

yes

[sharp raft]

Cool

[high wyvern]

HK is crashing every time i die, the only mod i have is Enemy HP Bar, and I'm fighting Broken Vessel on mac.
Any suggestions?

[idle flint]

dont die

[foggy ore]

^

[agile garnet]

idk if this is possible but maybe it would make randomizing relics a bit more interesting if you could choose which relic types to randomize when using randomizer

[foggy ore]

What does that even mean

[errant lance]

he wants to be able to randomize only journals or only seals, out of the relics

[weak plinth]

Wouldn't it be cool if the menu was a mile long and you could choose what charms to randomize individually?

[errant lance]

and lets you choose where they go

[foggy ore]

Why tf would you want to randomize only specific types of relics

[frozen nova]

maybe if you want to not be able to get arcane eggs really early on for a good amount of geo or something

[foggy ore]

but you have no guarantee you're going to get arcane eggs if they're randomized

and if they're not, I'm not sure how early you can get one

[steady elbow]

There's only 4 of them anyways

out of 50+ relics

[foggy ore]

tbf arcane eggs early on is useless anyway

you need to find a way into cot

until then, any relic is just useless

but it pays off later, when you can buy items with it

and it isn't even that many items tbf

so yeah, I still don't see the point

[young wren]

Is there a mod that adds health bars to enemies?

Hmm, how?

do the older versions not have that issue?

[errant lance]

debug would work better with it's #'s

and doesnt have problems

if youre looking primarily for dps tests

[vast prairie]

anybody know what causes the memory leak

or know how to fix it

[brittle egret]

gradow is fixing it atm

[vast prairie]

ah

nice

[young wren]

Time to try install my first mod

[knotty relic]

HK is crashing every time i die, the only mod i have is Enemy HP Bar, and I'm fighting Broken Vessel on mac.
Any suggestions?
@high wyvern i know this is old but the HP bar mod is really buggy and crashes the game if there is more than a few enemies, it sucks

[sharp raft]

I've heard seanpr says at some point that he wants to update the debug mod

yea?

[foggy ore]

@knotty relic the thing is, me and a lot of other people cannot reproduce these issues

I'm working on the mod, but without being able to see it happening, it's hard to diagnose and treat it well

[knotty relic]

the tall room took something like 6 seconds to load with randomizer mod and HP bar mod while normally it is less than a second and with only randomizer it took around 1 second

but

i'm not saying "kajdkjkafmns dont work on it because its bad anywayyyyy"

just saying how it was for me

[foggy ore]

Which tall room

[knotty relic]

the one with gruzzers

and tiktiks

in crossroads

i was sure i said crossroads aa

[errant lance]

the inventory drop room

[knotty relic]

???

[errant lance]

yes

[knotty relic]

yep

[foggy ore]

ok, lemme load it up real quick see if I get the issue

loaded just fine for me

[steady elbow]

Given the known memory issues, could crashing and lag be hardware dependent?

Probably won't be possible to fix other issues before the main one

[foggy ore]

I'm kinda rehashing it so hopefully that'll fix the issues

If it doesn't, then I'm not sure how to tackle this

[sick path]

does anyone have like a list of what each mod from the mod manager does

[steady elbow]

?mods

[fathom wigeon]

Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

[sick path]

❤️

[sharp pawn]

i have the custom knight mod how do i use it

[vestal cradle]

I literally

just fucking said

The pins in this channel

[sharp pawn]

ok

[sharp pawn]

look im not a smart person i dont claim to be a smart person i figured it out i shall leave now

[past turtle]

wheeze

[sharp pawn]

nvm

[past turtle]

WHEEZE

[foggy ore]

ffs

[sharp pawn]

look i'm not a smart person i don't claim to be a smart person i figured it out

[alpine ether]

i believe you have made this clear 4 messages ago

[sharp pawn]

i know

i'm young and do not know how this stuff works

[feral niche]

I also do not know how this stuff works. It is going to be a long knight.

[sharp pawn]

yup

[foggy ore]

Buddy

Was that a pun

[sharp pawn]

i know

i was torn on if it was a pun or mispelling

also i cant find the folder i need to put the custom knight i downloaded in

[stray hedge]

You need to go to the Hollow Knight game folder I think

[sharp pawn]

how do i find that

[stray hedge]

I think the Custom Knight has a guide in the Read me or something

[sharp pawn]

i know im looking at it and it says "navigate your games location and place all the sprites you just downloaded there"

[errant lance]

are you following the guide in the pinned messages at speedrun.com

[sharp pawn]

yes

[errant lance]

it doesn't say "there" lol

[sharp pawn]

im tired could someone just help

[errant lance]

we did

[dry river]

could someone help me?

[sharp pawn]

you know what imma deal with this later

[dry river]

what are the best mods

that dont give advantage

or disadvantage

[arctic pollen]

look at pinned comments i think the first link is a summary of what they do

nvm its been deleted

[vestal cradle]

it's the first pin

[arctic pollen]

wait no its still there

[foggy ore]

[worn sierra]

What's is fury of the fallen with the glass soul mode ?

[errant lance]

i don't believe fotf works with glass soul because it doesnt set your hp to 1, it just makes it so you're "radiant" basically, but 753 made it so you get more damage the more masks you get

[worn sierra]

yeah but is there another mod to replace it like with lightbringer ?

[errant lance]

i dont know if lightbringer replaces fotf, i think there is a glass soul charm in lightbringer though

[worn sierra]

no I wonder if glass soul replaces the fotf charm like lightbringer replaces some charms

[errant lance]

it wont

[hasty python]

Playing the Lightbringer mod, and suddenly my character is glowing on and off in pulses of colors. What does that do?

Hmm, it stopped after I talked to Leg Eater.

[foggy ore]

753 geo does that

[scarlet knoll]

Someone please make a mod that makes Elderbug have a birthday

[vast prairie]

I'm making a mod that gives elderbug a bigger role for the game

[dry snow]

elderbug bossfight

[vast prairie]

no elderbug bossfight smh

give him a hug

[foggy ore]

Papers is turning hk into a point n click adventure game

[dry snow]

seems like a good idea

[abstract hornet]

As long as it's not a Sierra point and click game where everything kills you.

[foggy ore]

Oh no, it's a Lucas Arts point n click

So you literally cannot lose

[abstract hornet]

Lies. Just stay underwater for 10 minutes in the first Monkey Island game. Life finds a way to lose.

[austere loom]

Hey guys, I need some help here

I was playing with the loot randomizer mod and I can't progress the game due to not having Vengeful Spirit

It gave me Isma's Tear instead

[weak plinth]

you can progress with that

bottom left of crossroads, there's an acid shortcut into fog canyon

[austere loom]

thank you

[sturdy crest]

Is it possible to add rooms into the game using Unity? I always thought a Crystal Peak Stag Station was needed for both convenience and lore. It really feels like Crystal Peak could do with more lore.

Really? I would pay you to make it lol

Ah ok

Maybe in future then

Let me know if there's anyone who you think could do it :)

[ripe anchor]

it isn't needed for lore or convenience, since the top of Crystal Peak literally allows you to jump off and fall all the way down to Dirtmouth

[knotty relic]

anyone have custom knight skins they recommend

[finite flare]

Just pick one you like?

[knotty relic]

i'll just get all of them then

[vast prairie]

[sturdy crest]

@ripe anchor
I disagree, sometimes it takes me ages to get through Crystal Peak, the only bench is the one guarded by the crystal guardian. It's a massive area and definitely needs a station... And yes Crystal Peak could definitely do with more lore... But each to their own. Besides, wouldn't a Crystal station be pretty cool? I'd have it just for the sake of how it would look.

[weak plinth]

there's a bench at the bottom of crystal peak on the right too

and lots of shortcuts

not disputing what you're saying about a stag, there's just more than only the one bench

[sturdy crest]

My mistake. I meant there was only one bench closer to the top of crystal Peak. I guess my main argument is that of aesthetics and lore. To me, it just feels like those miner bugs need a better reason for being there, and more backstory to why the Crystal Peak is so connected to the Radiance .

[weak plinth]

I don't think it is.

just b/c there's a statue at the top doesn't mean the whole power source is connected to radiance.

this is more for #hk-lore but my understanding is that soul, radiance, and crystals were all different power sources with the power from crystals being the most stable and usable and why they built the big powered golems

[ripe anchor]

the Radiance can focus her light through the crystals

[sturdy crest]

Yeah, that's true, maybe I've been watching to much mossbag but the lines "light absorbed..." "...light refracted..." Or whatever it is seem really significant. I actually fully agree with you, but It's not just the statue at the top that connects the crystals to the Radiance. I do believe there is a reason why the crystals were worshipped for so long. And even if I'm wrong, there could be more to the golems.

What @ripe anchor said

[limpid tiger]

gets bored and tries out hollow point

notices that the bullets seem to fail to shoot if youre stabilized aim and on the ground

Fun.

[brittle egret]

charm 🅱️roke

[weary tartan]

Okay so I'm stuck because there are no more items I can collect (at least according to the helper log) and grubfather can only give me Weaversong. As progression item I have howling wraith and crystal dash. I have explored greenpath (not collected thorn) and killed hornet.

The items from different sellers are only charms

(I've randomized abilities, charms, key and watchers)

[errant lance]

You might be able to get thorns. But idk if that counts as a mild skip. But you should have access to fungal and city with cdash

Make sure you check your vendors too. Lantern let’s you get to peaks then resting grounds. Leg eater might have something

[weary tartan]

Okay I will give it a try thank you. So is the helper log working only as a "no skip" thing ?

[errant lance]

That part I’m not sure. Someone more experienced might buzz in on that. My guess is it only shows current explored areas maybe

[weary tartan]

Yes you may be right on that. Thanks a lot !

[errant lance]

Np. Have fun

[weak plinth]

Helper log shows you what item locations are currently reachable

[past thorn]

Idea: 100 Bug Army
Just a hundred Watcher Knights

[vast prairie]

bad idea

I love it

absolutely terrible and wretched monstrocity

add normal enemies to it

[alpine ether]

elder

c

[vast prairie]

the normal guards of CoT

[last spoke]

Does hell mod affect Thorns of Agony

[vapid ermine]

Please help, doing a randomizer run and I cannot get the mantis claws. They are supposedly at the Grimmchild location and I cannot get into Howling Cliffs to unlock Grimmchild and I am very, very confused as to what I am supposed do

[weak plinth]

grimmchild is in the tent

[vapid ermine]

There's no tent

[weak plinth]

then you need to find grimmchild

the charm

and then go in the tent

[foggy ore]

Where are you, what items do you have

[weak plinth]

finding grimmchild spawns the tent

pretty sure

[vapid ermine]

Grimmchild item is in Howling Cliffs, right?

[weak plinth]

no

the flame is in cliffs

grimmchild is randomized

[foggy ore]

Wait mick where did your colours go

[vapid ermine]

I don't have much, monarch wings, isma's tear, awoken dream nail and vengeful spirit

[foggy ore]

Buddy

Not much

[weak plinth]

that's a lot

you can get almost anywhere with that

[foggy ore]

This person

[weak plinth]

and I purged servers when I was hammered the other night

and hit this one by accident

so yeah....

[foggy ore]

Sad

[vapid ermine]

This is my first randomizer and I'm trying to do it mostly blind, I looked at the spoiler log and it said the last mask is nailmaster's glory, which means to me I need to defeat all the nailmasters

Which means I need the claws

[foggy ore]

get all stags

[naive minnow]

Defeat masters?

||That's godhome only||

[foggy ore]

I think they meant they gotta find the nailmasters

which they can do

[naive minnow]

Oh

[foggy ore]

aside from the one in cliffs

which requires claw

or

all stags

[steady elbow]

I mean, nailmaster's glory requires all nail arts

visiting the nailmasters means nothing in randomizer

[foggy ore]

oh yeah

never played rando3

[civic hamlet]

hi im doing a randomizer run, and all locations in the helper log are checked off

but i can't find anything else to get

any clue what i can do

do we just have a dud seed

[foggy ore]

What do you have? Where can you go?

[wild sigil]

Im playing lightbringer mod and a few others i know lightbringer changes cloak but is there anyway i can use custom knight to change it to a different thing i tried it but lightbringer overights it

[vestal cradle]

fairly certain lightbringer overrides customknight

[wild sigil]

I know but is there anyway to stop it overriding

[wild sigil]

Is there any way in lightbringer to get to salubra without killing the op grub mother

[abstract hornet]

Just go in from Blue Lake.

[wild sigil]

So i need to go all the way to the dream area just to get to sly and salubra

[abstract hornet]

No, get the tram pass early.

Or enter east side CoT after beating Dung Defender.

[weak plinth]

customknight is overridden by lightbringer, so unless you change lightbringer's code, no

and salubra/sly are intentionally locked behind gruz for balance reasons. the charms they have are very good

[left canyon]

where is the code for the knight's movement script

[foggy ore]

If it's not in HeroController, then it's fsm

[weak plinth]

should all be in HeroController though right

for movement anyway

i shouldn't say that

this code is fucked

[foggy ore]

This

[wraith merlin]

I have arachnophobia and had my friend go through deepnest for me. It wouldn't be bad if there weren't actual spider silhouettes in the foreground. Would it be possible for me to remove foreground elements in the game? I have much programming experience with C and python, but have never modded a game before.

[weak plinth]

It's been done before

You could probably find the mod if you use the discord search function. I don't think it's been pinned or anything

Yeah, just search "remove; spiders"

[wraith merlin]

Thanks!

[wraith merlin]

replaced the file in that directory with the provided one from 753. Foreground spiders are still there

[weak plinth]

is your game on your D drive?

cuz if you put it in D and your game is on C, it obviously won't work

and you have to close/open your game

this was also 753's explanation of what it does

[autumn cliff]

so hey i heard that there were mods for this game

tried looking for some only got redirected to this discord

is there any particular installer or anything for mods?

[weak plinth]

?i

[fathom wigeon]

Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.

[autumn cliff]

oh cool thanku

how do i uninstall

it broke because antivirus too stronk

[weak plinth]

it's just a program

you delete it

[autumn cliff]

oh okay

thanks

so once im done adding mods i just start hollow knight up from steam?

[weak plinth]

yup

[autumn cliff]

cool

oh what if it says this

[weak plinth]

you're trying to uninstall all mods?

[autumn cliff]

no but like was just testing

[weak plinth]

just do what the second sentence says

verify game file integrity

[autumn cliff]

okay

[weak plinth]

then start the installer again

[autumn cliff]

what about this

[weak plinth]

what were you trying to do

[autumn cliff]

hit the readme for a mod

[weak plinth]

which one

that mod might not have a readme

or you don't have notepad

[autumn cliff]

unofficial hollow knight patch

i do some worked some didnt

was curious as to what some of the mods did since some of them didnt show up in the doc that was pinned in this channel

[weak plinth]

the unofficial patch doesn't do anything anymore

[autumn cliff]

oh rip

[weak plinth]

the bugs it fixed were fixed by the devs

[autumn cliff]

coolio

what does the charm notch mod do

[weak plinth]

gives notches for free automatically when you reach the charm threshold where salubra would sell them

[autumn cliff]

ah okay

[weak plinth]

used mostly as a QoL addition to randomizer

and is included in randomizer already

[crimson sun]

Where is the link for the mod installer?

[weak plinth]

?i

[fathom wigeon]

Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.

[weak plinth]

so basically you don't need the charm notch mod

lol

[autumn cliff]

xd

oh and i saw on some yt video that some guy had an ak-47 or something

would i just download that mod and hit the manually install

or

[weak plinth]

that's not in the installer

yes

[autumn cliff]

cool cool

thanks

[weak plinth]

you do exactly that

[autumn cliff]

what does the crystalbobbles mod do

[weak plinth]

makes oblobbles shoot crystals

[autumn cliff]

cool

[vestal cradle]

can't you just

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew/edit?usp=sharing

[autumn cliff]

but see

it's not in there

so like

[vestal cradle]

i see

[autumn cliff]

oh wait it is

i cant scroll

my bad my bad

i'll shut now

[autumn cliff]

shhhhhh

[weak plinth]

I think zaliant keeps that pretty well up to date

the only one that might not be is enemyHPbar

which has been fixed

like yesterday

[vestal cradle]

i can't believe hollowpoint isn't on this 😔

[weak plinth]

yell at ttaco to release it

[vestal cradle]

@brittle egret release hollowpoint

[weak plinth]

[crimson sun]

Hey so, what does randomizer 3 do exactly?

[weak plinth]

randomizes things

items

rooms

areas

whatever you want

except enemies

[crimson sun]

Okay 👌

What does the cursed setting on randomizer do

[weak plinth]

all non-essential items are 1 geo

so no fun charms or upgraded spells etc exist anymore

[past thorn]

Infinitely Spawning Watcher Knights

[sharp raft]

You can just replay watcher knights over and over

[brittle egret]

h im fixing it

[alpine ether]

taco give me your steam id

[brittle egret]

why

[foggy ore]

ttacco

make americagatling great again

[weak plinth]

america is already great

what you on about

all because of the big orange

[finite path]

What is a good charm set for hollow point?

Nvm

I just killed god with an AK-47

[white island]

https://youtu.be/L7ZCuWwc5xs

[sharp raft]

what was that mod that added new charms? one of them was maggotprime that kills you as soon as you put it on?

[mortal dawn]

does the mod program work with the GOG game download or only the Steam version

[halcyon rover]

Hey what if we made all the sprites in the game have anime eyes

[mortal dawn]

ok thank you

yeah makes sense

[hasty python]

Enemy HP Bar updated. Anyone know if the memory leak was fixed?

[foggy ore]

Should be

It also has customizable skins now

[hasty python]

Nice

[vast prairie]

@sharp raft will be part of the 5 knights mod

[worn sierra]

idk why but modinstaller is "unable to locate the game files."

But the game is installed

[past turtle]

yes

[sharp raft]

i wish enemies didn't had invincibility frames for this

[vast prairie]

what is this

I need it

[sharp raft]

I just set the nail speed to 0

[vast prairie]

but how do you alternate between slashes so quickly

[sharp raft]

macro

[vast prairie]

hm?

[vast prairie]

ooohh

[sharp raft]

though doesn't really mean much because of enemy iframes

[vast prairie]

there was a way to disable them though, wasn't there?

[sharp raft]

There is apparently, but idk how

I think that involves using seanprcore

[sharp raft]

another one

[foggy ore]

is that your mod ara

[sharp raft]

i just removed cooldown and used maros

[somber fox]

Do you know sone mods which only show hp of mobs

[foggy ore]

why is it red and leaving a trail tho

fury+grubber?

[sharp raft]

yea

[foggy ore]

@somber fox enemyhpbar

[somber fox]

Really)?

[foggy ore]

yes

[somber fox]

And how can i use it(download))))

[foggy ore]

?i

[fathom wigeon]

Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.

[somber fox]

Thanks

[dry snow]

are mods possible on a switch

[vestal cradle]

no

[dry snow]

ok

[naive minnow]

How do I change nail cooldown like that? Looks like fun for creating weird effects

[vast prairie]

apparently DnSpy

though I did put together a mod that removed cooldown if you have Quickslash equipped

@naive minnow

https://discordapp.com/channels/283467363729408000/327461802311155714/670917481170468865

[naive minnow]

Thx

[jovial fog]

do I need nexus mod manager to install hollow knight mods?

[errant lance]

?i

[fathom wigeon]

Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.

[errant lance]

use that

[grim gate]

is there a way to reset the in game achievements ?

[split wharf]

Does anyone know if randomizer 3 takes into account this skip that me and a friend just spent an hour trying to get, you can do it with ismas, dash, scream, and double jump?

[foggy ore]

do you actually need isma's tho

[split wharf]

yeah

if you didn't you couldnt get enough height to pogo

[foggy ore]

@steady elbow

[steady elbow]

Isma isn't necessary, and that is not in logic, nor will it be added

[foggy ore]

does rando3 randomize notches?

[split wharf]

it can if you choose to

[foggy ore]

what homothety

never played it

you know I've been dead for the past 1k years

[split wharf]

also I did just confirm you can do without ismas

and im glad it wont be added

[tough basin]

Can you not just shade skip up there?

[foggy ore]

Shhh

[split wharf]

But my steel soul rando runs

[ocean path]

i am not sure if its right place to ask but which if those files i need to copy if i wanna make backup of 2nd save?

[vestal cradle]

user2

all of them with the name user2

[ocean path]

thank you

[scenic pendant]

What does "There should be hollow knight_data folder next to the executable" mean

[weak plinth]

It means what it says.

An executable is a file type

.exe

The one with the knight face/logo

[rose mango]

hey everyone i saw the mod summaries, is there a way to download a pack with all those mods or how can i download each one individually? first time on discord

[errant lance]

Individually via installer.

[rose mango]

ok thats in the pinned messages right?

yep found it thanks

[naive minnow]

@vast prairie So just as a note to myself so I don't break anything, does the mod still allow damage to be dealt or does it mess with that?

[vast prairie]

I think I posted the actual code here since it's like 5 lines

runs a check whenever you equip/unequip a charm to see if you have quickslash on

if yes it sets the quickslash value to be really close to 0

and speeds up the actual nail slashes noticably

(because as tested even with a 0 cool down time if the slashes are usual speed it doesn't feel much different)

[naive minnow]

To basically be as fast as you can hit the attack button more or less right?

[vast prairie]

worst case scenario you remain with a ridiculously fast quickslash on that save

more or less

though not if you program it to spam the slash when holding a button

(since that's doable)

[naive minnow]

Like in those gifs

[vast prairie]

the ones Ara sent

yeah

you can't humanly press that fast but it's still needlessly fast

[naive minnow]

It's fast enough to be a bit noticeable when playing, much more noticeable when using a macro

Is what it comes out to basically

[odd mantle]

does anyone know what the elderbug god mod does?

[errant lance]

makes him into a cool dude

[odd mantle]

im just gonna download it

[faint solar]

does anyone know how the fragile/unbreakable strength charm works with Bonfire mod?

[foggy ore]

they don't

[wise glen]

Quick question

My first time launching the game with mods 'n all

and in every menu I see this "enemy randomizer" button

do I click it or wait with it, what does it do

i kinda clicked it and got scared cause main menu was flashing to different images and slowly went up some %s

[faint solar]

how does nailsmithing and bonfire work?

[odd mantle]

you can mod gog right (trying to convince my friend to buy the game)

[foggy ore]

Yes gluten

Tophor just don't play bonfire

[past thorn]

would it be possible to make a Galacta Knight boss, idk the idea sounds stupid but we also have Pale Champion as a boss

[vestal cradle]

yeah sure it's possible

just gotta make the art assets

music

code

simple really

[past thorn]

cool

would be also cool if someone drew Galacta Knights sprite sheet

[errant lance]

You’d have to be that someone

[past thorn]

well shit

[buoyant steppe]

I wish someone makes a coop mod after silksong is done

there are two seats in the trams, two seats on the stag

[dry snow]

?mods

[fathom wigeon]

Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

[foggy ore]

@buoyant steppe you can be that someone you know

[raven scarab]

wouldn't a multiplayer mod be signifigently harder to achive then any other existing mod?

well unless we're talking local coop with keyboard and controller, or 2 controllers, then it sounds kinda doable

[buoyant steppe]

that's what I was thinking

I just don't know a thing about modding in hk and don't know how to map character movement to buttons and etc.

I was thinking to have hornet and ghost coop mode after silksong releases

but now that I think about it again, hornet is gonna have an extraneous amount of mobility compared to the ghost

unless she's just gonna be a

then it's just make her moveset cloned to the ghost

[sharp raft]

imagine

[sturdy crest]

I honestly don't think hornet is going to be as crazy fast-paced compared to ghost as everyone says... the first game could be wickedly fast and still acrobatic

[weak plinth]

Anything is possible, but putting a second hero in the scene presents a ton of issues

It'd be a huge mod

[sturdy crest]

Of course Ghost at the start of HK was slow as hell

[cosmic torrent]

I’d be down to do a sprite sheet makeover for a mod :0

[errant lance]

modding-help pins

[buoyant steppe]

that's why I'm thinking that to make the second player just a reskin of ghost would bring far less issues than otherwise

the only thing to balance from then is to x1.75 the bosses' health abd we're good to go

[weak plinth]

So how do you handle the camera, loading, hitboxes, ai triggers and targeting. Etc etc etc

You can't simply just put another object in the scene out of nowhere

Plus controls, syncing. Etc.

The skin on the second player is the easiest part

[cosmic torrent]

I'm looking for sprite sheets. I'm doing some concept stuff and need to see some particle sprites if they're around :O

[weak plinth]

#art-discussion

Pins

[glossy shard]

Hypothetically, is it possible to mod in new rooms and room connections, entirely new projectiles, enemies that aren't just a modified version of a pre-existing enemy, or bosses that don't replace pre-existing bosses?

[raw lichen]

yes

there are examples of this

many of them