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good.

ITSSS MONDDAYYY

how many known other kingdoms are there including silksong and hollow knight information?
Post aga emoji
Are we counting kingdoms that are in the maps of hallownest and Pharloom but didn't give in?
Like would deepest count
every big kingdom that is mentionned
ello chat
Hello, Pure Vessel
and no deepnets doesnt count im counting stuff like hallownest and pharloom
do hall of gods.
or you completed it.
cornifer why do you have that
or you’re still suffering
i have 8 bosses to do and not today
any mental issues?
markoth
or want to beat the crap out of someone?
Just the avg W cornifer
the true vessel is cornifer
NO I DIDNT MEAN THAT I DIDNT MEAN THAT
mustve been the wind
TF YOU MEAN?
i love how F and G are right next to eachother
I radianted you easy🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Just from that msg I know what you sent originally
TELL ME WHAT DID YOU MEAN
ok.
i misclicked sowwy
no you dont
Why aren't you mad I'm offended😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡
WDYM MISSCLICK, HOW DO YOU MISSCLICK A ENTIRE WORD
much more a sentence
F AND G ARE NEXT TO EACHOTHER IN THE KEYBOARD
Hallownest
Greenpath(technically)
Pharloom
Land of Storms
Verdania
Karak
Hunters march
Shellwood?
I can't think of any others that might count
Then what were you trying to say
SAY IT.
But again I'm not heavy on lore
valid, ive found all 4 of my mothwing cloak checks already lol
I thought they were more so regions in hallownest and pharloom instead of kingdoms [other than land of storms]
tf am i supposed to be mad at.
i mean like hallownest pharloom land of storms blackbarrens city of steel sandsea wastes, tahts all so 6
that looks like some AI ahh answer
me radianting you easy🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Well technically Greenpath verdania hunters march shellwood karak were kingdoms before hallownest and pharloom
rude😡
but greenpath is now part of hallownest, shellwood karak verdania and march are now part of pharloom
and they are minor villages and/or areas anyway
https://medal.tv/games/hollow-knight/clips/mdHoDP3MhZglc_Emq?invite=cr-MSxWRHgsNDY4NzUzNTI5&v=11 get ragebaited hollowknight community
Idk man I don't really gaf about the lore that much
ragebait successful
I always dream Nail Marissa I need my one essence
yeah its just a small thing that is written in the cradle mostly and in the steel guys and the memories of the godseekers
:(
how could you
lost kin my goat
There's lore in the cradle??
Always kill Marissa to delete the unkillable boss at the end of the game
I knew the land of storms
yeah, all the ways that the weavers that have been captures have been written down
im a drug addict my drug of choice is lowballing people in facebook marketplace
fuck do i need to start my 25h playthrough all over again
The dream bosses were all so disappointing
the ones mentioned there are the blackbarrems and the sandsea wastes
None of them are really fun to fight (except marmu she's adorable)
dont talk about lost kin like that.
the city of steel is trough steel seer zi and steel soul jinx
The infamous markoth 💀
No I mean not the rematches
I love the path of pain
Fuck Markiplier, even dash slash spam doesn't work sometimes
Don't you love it when a boss has NO damage windows?
the two best bees: bombus cockorelli and bombus longopennis
Real
(those are real bees by latin name)
I like how you called him that lol
Ralsei deltarune?
love this so much
Why lost kin🥀
I love cogfly
Wtf is the prototype doing here
What?
Because they're a cutie patootie
You got me there dang it.
Only if they're a good boy and don't use the secret move: no endlag
The fourth chorus talking to the first chorus:
But look at that sweet little face
Hope this won't be an embed fail
Any idea why all the hk steam achievements are 0.0% rn?
Forgot to mention it but I may have first tried p5 earlier
Lost kin uninfected and happy
Nice, congrats!
Bros like 3 years old 🥀
People are bad at the game
Abs is only hard if the fucking balls decide to get free will
orange juice go brrrrrr
_ _
I'm gonna do radhog now
is that 3?
Nah stepped on the linme so its a 2
😔✌️💔🥀
Y'all did lost kin od on radiance gummies
AND HEEE misses.
The balls are like the easiest attack bro
I used to struggle on them but they're really easy if you just don't try to damage her
whats the best charm in the game?
quick slash
void heart prob
strength is a very close second
idk i havent played
It's honestly either quick slash or steady body
MoP, couldn't play without it
if fury is allowed then maybe that
Quick slash
all good votes
Best combo is Mark of pride quick slash and steady body and maybe add unbreakable strength
Shaman stone is
should i replace quick focous with mark of pride
Depending
What's your current build?
I use MoP, long nail, quick slash, fragile strenght
quick focous quick slash unbreakable strength and grimmchild
Unless it's eternal ordeal, yes
grimmchild
That's good for introverts
dont dare talk bad about grimmothey
I would use long nail instead of Grimmchild and shaman stone instead quick focus
People underrate quick focus
Just don't get hit
Real
why didnt i think of that
Not a good thing to base charm advice on
For radiant fights, it is
We were not talking about qf in relation to radiant fights
lost kin is the one on the radiance gummies
not me
Well it depends
If you're a pretty solid player then having sham stone is almost always better than quick focus
Also idk what fights you're doing but flukenest is very broken as well
if yo uare a solid player you won't need charm advice
and also if you do it will be for a specific thing
Definitely not true, people are changing charm build constantly at the highest level and each player is different
I think everyone needs to share what charms they like and why for us to have a properly balanced community
the point at which qf becomes not worth considering running is after all achievements
p5 in particular it is good for
True, it's probably the only reason i could beat the eternal ordeal
any by the time you are doing radiant fights mostly you know what charms are good for it, questions would be "what charms are good for radiant markoth" because specificity is valuable when seeking advice at that point
g
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the hollow knight
hey guys, weird question but is anyone experiencing lag after the recent update?
ive heard of that but havent experienced it from my very limited time on lp
I tried to go back to the prev version but it's still the same
Update?
yeah same, I get a random lag spike every couple of hours
ok there's no more lag now, but the audio delay is still here
Patch Notes Added support for 21:9 & 16:10 resolutions. Game now pauses while in inventory menus. Upgraded to Unity Input System for broader controller support (original input system is still available, if preferred, via Options>Controller>Advanced Settings) Added dithering effect, and dithering options, to reduce colour banding. Fixed a softloc...
ok, it's all good now
Oh Idk bout that
How did you fix it?
turns out all I had to do was disable audio enhancements in window sound settings
not sure on how to fix the lag, since all I did was verify game files, which I did last time but didn't work
H
dang it i need wings or claw
i'm pretty sure you can beat hollow knight in one boss
i've seen a video on it, but does anyone know if true ending in 2 bosses is possible?
sup
off the top of my head you gotta fight traitor lord and Kingdom's edge Hornet for part of the kingsoul and shade dash respectively
though I'm sure there;s some sort of way to bypass their bossfights through exploits
that one dreamgate + stag + map glitch that lets you clip through walls
you can bypass both fights like that
ah
and no dream fights because you can technically gamble with the 3% chance till you get 1800 essence (the whispering roots give like 460 in total so you can use those to speed it up)
it should be possible then since I don't think any items or stuff you need you get through beating a boss outright
yes
double jump is needed for that one part in edge but i think just pogoing on the friendly neighborhood aspid will suffice
its 0.33% (1/300), 0.5% (1/200) with dream wielder
Gmorn
Is Grimm a guy? Just a question since my friend says he’s a woman.
I saw this review of Hollow Knight. Skill issue.
https://youtu.be/q9pUBrChAg0
guys, i beat Path of pain for the first time!
gg
I lost my steel soul run to the kingsmoulds at the end of white palace
Damn.
no he is a guy
just some fanart makes him look female
Yeah Brumm uses male pronouns
nightmare king
King isn't actually always gendered
probably most obvious answer
I suppose this logic does apply here though
is it just me or does the character in the silksong cover look really similar to hornet
Yeah I thought so too
this opens up so many theories
I think this character is racist against Flies
Maybe
I dunno' she has a lot of mates so probably not
It may just be that she finds them incredibly gross
pteronarcophobia
Shouldn't Pterophobia be fear of Pterodactyls
Or pteronarcophobic
Is homophobia and homophobic the same thing?
Chat i beat pantheon of the artist first try
40 percent chance of winning
Y
I have a little thing I want to say
I struggled so hard in pantheon of the master
TROBBIO!
Pantheons are hard
So it’s not actually 40 percent chance u just gotta try harder?
Should i attempt P5?
Depends on ur skill
You have to beat all other 4 pantheons and if you did yes
My skill issue had me stuck on this guy for a week
Where is P4, i only unlocked 3
As far as i know at least
A whole week?
I'm pretty sure p4 is to the right of p3
the gated door to the right of 3
I don't remember
I got him in like 5 tries.
TROBBIO!
Over the gap?
Yeah my friends said he’s not that hard but I was really struggling for some reason. At least 70 tries
Trobbio and Gorb is the brain rot of hk/ss
Darn
wdym
Like in the room with the statues
practice
What is gorb doing here?
So they arent actual bosses just practice for pantheons?
School in 2h:(
hes basically a joke
Hmm right
ab gorb is peak hk
Ello everybody
hello
Hows it going
bad
We're good. Im just talking about gorb and trobbio
hopefully will get better
TROBBIO
Maybe
i lost my phone at school

I fucking hate school on Mondays
I was playing the leaf green port to switch earlier 🥹
How?

How you doing here guys
Trobbio
Trobbio
TROBBIO! GORB! ASCEND!!!
i accidentally left it on a table when going to my next class and when i was leaving i realized i didnt have it (bc i also bought my ipad i got distracted) and i couldn’t spend too much time looking for it bc i had to catch my bus

Ascended?? Why no radiant
Damn
yeah thats what im hoping
Radianted gorb
it wasbt in a class tho i have to look in the office bc when i went to the table it was gone
Just gorb
idk if my phone has that
I see ur fav boss is gorbbio?
can a iphone track down a motorola

can i do it on the web or does it have to be an android
No. My fav is ov bc hes cool but also a mf to fight
Pv
I hate everything Japan
This guy got no image perms, laugh at this fucking embed fail
guy who doesn't have image perms ^^^
I’m not at least trying to post gifs
Agreed and nkg is good too
Just take a deep dive into their history and a lot of modern stuff on them
Yeah
I CAST, The Ink Realm.
SoB sucked man
Oof
Sisters of battle
Noo
Mt fault for abbreviation
Sob is hard
Yeah
Sister of battle*
You have seen my boss list on steel soul
But its fun too
Ueah
For me
No
Yeah, Japan is the worst country in east Asia by far
Just use pogo
Pv for cool shit, but hes Hella tough
I can think of another
Like my first try it was hard duh.
India
Let me guess? North Korea, they haven’t remotely done shit as bad as Japan
India?
Why is pogo so op🥀
Idk
not even in east asia but sure
Its in asia
It literally solos pure vessel and radiance
India ain’t even as bad as Japan though
oh well if were talking historiically that's a whole different thing
Japan even today is still a horrible country
i only know japan for cool anime stuff
Not for me
yea no I don't think india is a bad place
Which one?
certainly not as bad as north korea
||Look up UNIT 731||
Also by radiance I mean second and third phase
I mean I wouldn't live in japan still
Well in a hour i will have to go to school at 1C(before that it was -20C)
?
Sob
is this a war crime vro
You should learn what Japan was doing
Can you just say sisters cause sob confuses me
Sobsters
It got the nazis to say stop btw
That's better👍🏼
Sisters of b
That's okay 👍🏻
Japan was that horrible even the worst country at the time told Japan to stop
Stealing the meme doesn't make it funnier
Sisters of 🐝
Sometimes it does but rn nah
i am ||styx|| silksong and i dont like anything that doesnt taste like a tootsie roll
Which is worse? Living in the Metro 2033 Universe or Living in the Bendy and the ink machine cycle?
both
A lot of Japanese people support their countries actions and history teachers genuinely downplay disgusting events the imperial Japanese army did
BADDIE WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE
Oh
idk how both r so ima say bendy
thats more of a government and accountability problem
“Government” that’s the people of Japan btw
I don’t mean their government at all
anyway im gonna go sleep on my lace bodypillow gn
on youre what
huh
the government makes the school curriculum
is that the guy from fnaf
yes
I’ll break it down,
Metro: 20 years after a nuclear war, mutants, everyone lives in a metro (Moscow one) and you can’t go to the surface without guns, ammo, medicine, gas masks, and filters.
Bendy cycle: you will be killed if you cannot run, searchers and other entities are very aggressive and try to kill you, bendy wants to eat you
Living in the cycle imo
China still hates Japan for what they did and it is fully justifiable to hate Japan
B-but anime
Enjoy having a bunch of mutants run into your home station and eat you and everyone alive
Yes this happens in the metro universe
Better than living and dying in a cycle forever
Until you encounter the fucking Dark Ones
shocked face emoji
still would take metro
post apocalyptic russia or infinite cycle of death and rebirth
They destroy people’s mind, make them go insane and kill those around them, it’s horrifying
Yes but living and dying infinitely can drive you insane
This is experienced during one of artyoms nightmares in the start of last light
Worse, the pain won't lessen everytime you die
1 second near one and you go insane
atleast in 2033 I can take my own life if it really comes to it
So go insane or go insane but in a longer period of time
And you only have to experience hell once
Hell won't become paradise even in an infinite amount of time
Your more likely to survive in metro as an insane one unless you enter Hanza, redline, polis, reich, and spartan areas
True that
Polis is likely to just get you out of it
And not turn your skull into a bunch of fertilizer
Reich, even if not will immediately light you up with a DsHK
Hanza arrests you for not being a citizen and will prob deport you
Redline? Conscription
A smart hollow knight fan is crazy
wait till hanze finds out im an actual citizen so they cant deport me😎 😎 😎 😈 😈 😈
I fucking hate fighting the reich in metro 2033 because they are such rage baiters, like stop throwing 4 fucking heavies with shamblers at me
Hanza*
You need a Hanza passport
Which is insanely hard if you aren’t from Hanza stations
Does he know?
I’ve beaten all 3 games bro
All endings too
Fucking buy the first two
“Is grass green?”
I js thought itlooked cool when I bought it I had no idea it was a whole thing
It's lime
Also do not buy awakening if you have a VR, that’s swedeslop

swedeslop
The Swedes do not deserve the right to own the metro IP
I like that word
The metro IP only belongs to 4A Games
And those fucking Swedes taking advantage of something in 2022 to buy the Metro IP from 4A Malta
Do it
Also please if you play last light, do not try the tower out of curiosity in “New Missions”
is that lost lace or jst normal lace
thermonuclear bomb vs rotting corpse
normal
errrereeeeererererererrerererererer
then i GENUINELY dont know brosaline 💔😔✌️🥀
that one
brosaline💀
Whoever the strongest is
@quaint musk why do I only have image permission in one channel but not others?
I'd say lace
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you have 578 messages so unless you were muted you should have image perms
It only works in the #hk-art discussion channel
you don't have the perms.
were you ever muted?
No? Would I get a notification if I was?
hollow knight
do you guys know any good pvp games?
go out and fight people in real life
Mortal Kombat 9
meh
question. how much time do you have that you can waste
Real smart question
a lot
then TF2.
preferably not fps
it's a good game tho. there's gambling
but if not then. Minecraft many servers are pvp
"yo bro i dont like seafood"
"damn bruh you gotta try this sushi 😂 "
Street fighter is good tho
guys im talkn bout GOOD pvp games not extremely niche ones 😭
Ok street fighters isn't niche
there is 9 class to play as
-fast kid that will hit you with a bat
-soldier a American with lead poisoning
-pyro
-demoman black Scottish cyclop
-heavy a fat Russian that loves his gun
-engineer a guy with many PhD that is lazy and will most likely use turrets
-medic without license
-sniper with piss collection
-spy a French
anyway have to go. bye
bye?
ok well ig i guess right bendy sounds horrible
Guys im so proud of myself i did dung defender first try so eaz
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you have 9 messages rn
well thats because you have n*tro
oh ok
I used orbs
yeah you chill mb
I BEAT PATH OF PAINNNNN
fire
now beat P5 all bindings no hit
bro
you go ffrom one place to another without taking a hit of damage
yeah, anyways isnt there multiple locations to deposit the flower?
iidunno
like the one in queen garden is for solace achievement
but then i can also give it to godseeker???
what
wiki is confusing me
What's harder? That or RadHoG?
for like the embrace the void ending with the flower cutscene
WHAT is RadHoG 😭

All radiant hall of gods
radical wild hog
Yeah first time I saw that acronym, I was like: what the frick is this?
why is this an emoji in this server 😭
kermit u know how flowrr quest works?

idk its a bug ig
Yes
shii
It's pretty simple
yeah but theres multiple deposit locations right?
There's only one for completing the quest
okay
There are a few npcs that can accept the flower too
so am i supposed to walk around hitless and talk to random ones...
Like elder bug, godseeker, and I think 1 other
T-T
You have to go from point a to point b
I'm going to make a 3d model of

zote 🤑
okay ig those are kinfa close
peakkkkk
There is one specific point for the quest
Wait wrong chat🙏
lel
That's silksong
None of the previously mentioned npcs are where you finish it
You go to the grave in that one room in queens gardens
alr
Without getting hit
but i can still get infinite flowers from the mourner after completing the quest?
It's best to pre-plan a route and make sure everything is open
No
ah
After completing it she dissappeares
Sure
goodluck getting to goodseeker vro 😭 he is across the fucking map lmao
I'm bit annoyed. bc my school is hour away from my home and bus connection is.so shitty that if I wanna not be late for school 7:45 am I need to wake up at 5:45 am bc public transport to the shit hole I live in is not the best
its really not that far... compared to the traitors child
rough
Hmmm
my brother in christ you have to go ACROSS the ENTIRE FUCKING MAP without getting hit 😭 the flower and godseeker are on opposite sides of the map vro
Doesn't all people in hollow knight have the same kind of health as the knight
so if I not wanna be late my dad gives me a ride to the city sometimes.
long story short he has ai generated songs in his Spotify playlist
what about the bugs without masks 💔
like the radience
or that one guy who jars stuff
or maggots
if i remembered my map correct, its just down the resting ground elevator and through the city of tears, no? I can just use the shortcut in the blacksmith area
that's the part that annoys me
lmao
Uhhh
you have to navigate through royal waterways hitless still 💔
They have shadow masks
disgrigard everything ive previously said im fucking stupid i had queens garden and CoT's locations mixxed up mb
the masker found void
i only forgot the layout of hallownest because of how much time ive spent in the god land smh
good luck
youll need it 🙏
I'm from Poland and If Polish isn't your native language most likely you won't notice. but when it is you can notice things like
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in Poland most words cause pitch of the voice to be higher than at the start of it (excluding people from the mountain region. it's exception) and ai doesn't understand this and
a) completely ignores it
b) instead at the end of the word it raises pitch at the end of the sentence -
words in music follow pattern of most of the time changing way you say it by making some vowels longer and some shorter. and ai can't do it resulting in
a) not changing it
b) changing it in wrong places
there is more stuff too but that's not important
yup, while i dont speak polish, I know that ai definetly is not amazing at all languages
it hurts to listen to these songs
especially tonal ones
romance languages are pretty much purely phonetic so its easier
*anything so far
we still dont have any of the dlc's for silksong, which i wouldnt doubt will have its own pantheons
Imagine sk p5
and those will be far harder than hk's pantheons as much as i hate to say it
id rather not 😭
I just hate ai
Bruh what the hell
And I struggle with p5 in hk
eh sk has alot of strats with tools
the pantheons in sk have been out for a while with mods
imagine fighting GS at her prime vro 😭😭
Few people have done the sk equivalent of hitless p5
Someone once said, we need Ai to do our chores so we can do our hobbies, not Ai to do our hobbies (like art, music, etc.) so we can do our chores
So like, sk pantheons are much harder but hornet is also much stronger?
my lingering fluke beat all those tools fr
i lowkirkenfadeperhchenuinely prefer hk overall compared to silksong
Starfish attack
what does that mean
anyway I have PE now. bye
cya
Dang the attack make them leave
evil fucked up starfish that causes the poish to go to physical education class
BAHAHAA LMAO PERFECT
Sandwich
Also how do I check how many messages I sent
Top right corner should have magnifying glass
Click or tap depending on what your using
And then type "from:" and then your username
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I need a copy tat down
Yeah
Ello
Whys the big H out for me bro
Guys I've seen hell and primal spit squits are real and they thirst for blood and nightmares
Im predicting Sea of sorrows to be released in mid summer
Summer would be perfect cause everyone is on break
yea it would make sense to release when everyone has free time
But hk first dlc was releases 6 months after the game released and silksong was released in September, so if ss does the same, it'd be in March, this month.
also I'm also assuming silksong's average dlcs would be bigger than hk's dlc
I'm just hoping godhome is in the first dlc and not the last one or something
like the base game is already more than twice the size
But they probably will do it as the last one cause otherwise they gotta update gohome after each dlc to have the new bosses
It's more likely they gonna add new area or smth
Bro I did it in only 1
How are you taking 2 hours 🥀
I'm at lost lace
I have a question
IM GONNA KIL- (I was then dragged away to sinners road)
trevor treefort reference?
Okay...?
what's y'all opinion about use of ai for art (music, drawing and even writing books)
It sucks ass
Absolutely not
I wish ai to die
Use Ai for literally anything else
That's jobs/hobbies for people, not things for Ai to do
Keep it away from any creative field
^
it's called a road it's called a sinner's road
It's where you go to shoot load......
here is mine
using ai for art is skill issue
People use it as an excuse for disabilities and defects but theres literally super well known artists who have those same problems
Ai should be used to power robots to do chores and stuff, not hobbies or creative things
it's called a road it's called a sinner's road
You can't really bathe in the sun~
but you can take multiple guys at once
disabilities ain't excuse for ai. and excuses like autism or ADHD especially aren't ones. I have both and that's just an insult
Everyone here does their part, just ask my boys glarf and flarf~
Bro same I have both of them
i heard someone say that they can't focus because of ADHD. THAT'S BULLSHIT
Insulting how people still think all autistic people are low functioning
Like you can have artists block but thats no reason to use ai
Everyone deals with that
yeah I hate that people think that autism and down syndrome are the same thing. they aren't
Even people with down syndrome can still somewhat function decently
But I haven't studied enough on that yet :/
peak
Are you calling the question peak or the subject 0_o
Whats peak
if you have ADHD and you want something you will spend the next 2 weeks of your life doing it
why would the former be the case
they asked for an opinion on something and the response was a positive expression - it has to be about whats being asked
i already did by saying peak
not necessarily, as should is prescribing behaviour/what ought to be done
I speak from experience. I spent over 2 weeks drawing old church then I didn't touch drawing for next month
im just expressing approval for it
I hate ai because using it for Hobby's is like making instant noodles and saying you cooked a meal
🗿
yes both are food but one is effortless process without giving any life experience other will cause learning how to cook

"all opinions must be respected" the opinion:
In a lot of areas art is a product though, not a process
nah. art is the process and drawing is the result
If I buy a painting I'm not engaging in the process
same with music books
So as a commodity generated art is functionally similar
ignoring the ai topic, thats just wrong 😭
like i get the philosophy behind it but words have definitions that dont really make it poetic
I'm not ignoring the topic I started it and already said opinion
i said im ignoring it 💀
you're not buying art you're buying an art piece. art is definitively an activity, art pieces are the outcome.
So?
but randomly bringing up ai as a topic is boring anyways
thats all this channel talks about
thats a pretty bad and problematic quote
You just said something that has no meaning and hoped it was insightful
so whatever point you were making is wrong
From a use case generating vs buying art is the same
let me explain it simply. the art is an Expression of someone. a part of them but ai lack it. art worth is dependent in the story of it. not the quality itself
you don't buy art, you buy an art piece. art is the process that the artist who made said piece went through. generating art using ai is not art, does not make you (or the ai) an artist and the outcome is not an art piece

@high escarp the process is the art. let me explain it even simpler. if you buy food made in factory by machine and same food made in restaurant by a chef. both are food same ingredients and same nutritions but which one would you rather to eat. which one is worth more
id rather eat which one tastes better for the price
which is probably the machine one lol
because food tastes better than art
what are these analogies 💀
the analogy is horrible
like i get the argument for ai art but that one is silly
in tthe hypothetical both are exactly the same
yeah, no
no not really
time for monkey terms I guess
this is very poor argumentation, as it just assumes whats being argued as already true
i promise you the complexity wasnt the issue 😭
its fine and reasonable to dislike ai art, disliking machine food is not a proper analogy
and this conversation is so pointless anyways lmao
You get the one that fits your need
its hourly in this channel
with how poor the argumentation is yes
ai steals artstyles. factories don't copy chefs. factories are MEANT to be fast and cheap. food in restaurant is not as cheap. the problem with ai "art" is that it is often priced the same as real art and, again, it is theft
and when you think about it, it's not efficient either (factories are!) ai companies are losing budget and wasting energy
like everything mentioned here is in some way wrong or problematic
you could explain how you think i'm wrong instead of making empty claims
i mean yes the arguments suck but its so pointless either way
I do not have enough time to find monkey terms. time.for nature
Ellu
complex? time for argument I have in my pdf with arguments I think when I can't sleep
what am i even reading
What are you guys talking about
are you okay
yes. I just have ruined sleep schedule
PRIMAL SPIT SQUIT?!
wth is that
lol
anyways
?av ebullio.
i wonder what would the armored baldur look like when grown up
art is a phenomenon where someone spends time to do something. learns it and express themselves. art is a reflection of person that made it.
ai lacks that part it follows the instruction it doesn't reflect anything. it doesn't care about the meaning. it doesn't care about the story. only that the result matches the description.
both are drawing and pictures. but one tells a story other doesn't have anything that would make it worth anything
yes you have said this already
Elder baldur?
give me a sec time for Photoshop
okae
And yet to say that is to dismiss the other purpose which is art as a commodity
You think company logos are created out of the love for boring branding?
I wanted to Google elder Baldur and I found someone already made armored elder baldur
in the past? yes. now it is just the shell of what it once were
the whole argument sucks anyways
question? what is better instant noodles or noodles made in actual restaurant
its morality, but if you were gonna argue it then thats not the way to do so
Damn
now ask which is better for the price and time, can we stop giving bad analogies
you're making people who dislike ai look bad
to be consistent this would apply to your message as well, however none of that was included. regardless, the idea that "ai steals artstyles" in this context is not applied correctly (and is not established by any means as previously mentioned) - this is because a style lacks ownership.
moreover, the idea that factories dont behave in such a way is demonstrably not the case (and "copy" is left undefined here, making the position vague). industrialization of foods in factories has been a norm for a very long time. additionally, calling human art "real art" just presupposes the very thing under contention as well - effectively being meaingless. essentially there just isnt much substance here 
explain how. I didn't wanted to get into the concept and meaning of art in the past
because the analogies suck
restaurant noodles probably taste better, but its also alot more expensive and certainly alot more time consuming
its also subjective which tastes better anyways

still you also can cook yourself. but most people don't want to learn
and how does that even link back
Please help, I thought this was for hollow knight, not full blown debating
its hk and offtopic
Note how instant noodles still have a market
that the price is less of a problem

time
instant noodles are more appealing when im wasted at 1am
You discredit your own argument by saying there is a strong niche for cheap below average images that ai can fill
Sup nerds
Is it good, no but that doesn't really matter
the conclusion is ai is peak and we need more
yeah and? I have 5 hours for myself (excluding time for studying) when it isn't weekend. and I still cook shit. same with drawing but you don't need to made art in one sitting
good for you? its 5 hours compared to 10m, objectively worse
i could spend those 5 hours doing other things
people think that full good or full bad stance on ai is reasonable
it has uses, both good and bad
Depends on the ai
Generative ai I would disagree with
wait a sec I have to do something. (finishing PE)
so you're saying gen ai has zero good reasonable uses?
thats the best kind
well thats just ignorance 😭
okay idk about this 😭
its more that gen ai gets misued on such a global scale
less that its inherently bad
so much potential for memes...
guh
hey @junior ocean check out @rigid furnace's banner

like what?

quite literally anything
You misunderstand then
cooking is fun.
And miss the whole point
i think that honestly while generetive ai seems cool, traditional ai for algorithms and such is just kinda all that the world really needs. plus generative ai is just way too harmful for the planet to justify its existence
0 relevancy
Some people don't like making art
go to sleep
no
Art is the commodity no more no less

not crazy to say
and thats what it stems down to, its a blurred morality
then if they don't like making it then maybe they don't use ai to do it.
im just ignoring this guy tbh i dont think hes knows what ai is
well i think its ur banner to begin with because its a meme
a style does not lack ownership. it belongs to humans. it is born by intelligence, that which is not artificial. the argumentation about factories was an idea of why the analogy is stupid and makes no sense. factories do not prepare food for you in the same way that restaurants do, it is not and was never why factories exist. generative ai does copy the work of real people.
yes if it wasnt a meme, it wouldnt be possible to have
ai art generation is an algorithm that tries to make most similar images to the ones in the database that match the description of the prompt. it looks at several ones and smashed them and remakes them
real
gng WHAT is that emoji
you know it's hard to translate something when native language has different writing rules and words with no connection to English
i promise you that isnt the issue
then explain what is ai then
even the other guy saying genai is bad, also said your arguments sucked
your arguments suck, the definition has no value 💀
it has
two people have come in here saying ai is bad and with reasonable claims
2/3
you're the 1 with the bad argument
I'm going to crash out
no one is on bros side
ai is good vs ai is bad vs this guy
because people do not understand what art is and when I try to find a analogy PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT TF ANALOGY IS
correction bro's side is undefined
spit guyh
the analogies are fundamentally different mate
they do not need to be about same thing it needs same idea.
analogy isn't a comparison
wow correct, next time lets make them the same idea
its still caused a ton of problems though. im not gonna go into specifics but all ill say is just im referring to a certain twitter related image gen issue that is REALLY fucking bad
i really need to use the block feature more
And why not exactly?
What is the reasoning
genuinely not a soul agreeing with this guy and hes still yapping on about the same thing but reworded
because if you don't like making it then why do it.
Because you want the image
commisions, money
Why do you think people commission sometimes
using ai for commission is new level of low
what
I rather have a drawing on a fridge made by my younger cousin
and id rather have a good drawing
this i do agree with
What are we even talking about at this point
You are still thinking of the process not the commodity here
your ai slop bores me
I rather have drawing that has a meaning
1 guy yapping with nobody agreeing 😭
"why not cheat on exams if you don't wanna study"
Again not the same thing
What is the point of an exam
Istg people add "slop" to everything like their argument depends on it
because the whole point of exams is to test that i have the skills i will need?
to assess your knowledge
To test knowledge and rank students
why when will people realise that this isnt something ytou can use analogies for 😭
because I do not want to use philosophy we have in school. we read books from the XVII centaury for Polish class
The point of an image is to look at
tests arent the product, theyre a test
does anyone casually have a heart attack when fighting the radiance
people do not understand what art really is
gm chat
oh yeah ai can generate simple images for someone who needs it no issue with that
im not chat and its not morning but hi
lol
but gm to you specifically i guess
shit guess who broke that record
art tells a story or has a meaning or reflects the artist, shows emotions.
Ai "art" has none of that
slop slop
u some weird mfs
How tf did u read my mind
we all are weird in our own ways
you said that ai can be used for commission. your opinion doesn't matter
That is all I'm saying
good argument buddy
i agree but i think we’ll reach a point where we cant tell that ai doesn’t have emotions so easily
why does mine have to be a plethra of mental illnesses
i dunno
It was in place of
As in fills that role
Hi gr
hiii
however this was about art, not images. if someone doesn't want to do art, yet wants to have art so they generate "art" using ai then present said "art" as art thats a direct analogy to cheating for benefit
the idea that "a style does not lack ownership" is still not expanded on. here, it simply acts as an assertion without reason. moreover, "belongs" is undefined, and stating "it belongs to humans. it is born by intelligence" is again, just a metaphysical assertion that doesnt prove anything and doesnt move towards establishing exclusivity. lastly, stating "factories dont prepare food in the same way humans do" concedes the position, as a difference in process doesnt entail a difference in category
if youj want emotion in your art then yeah fair, but people forget they arent the only conscious being
some people dont care about the emotion. both are fine
not an unpopular opinion but i think if ai is to keep existing especially for image gen then there needs to be laws that require it to always be labeled as ai art
i wanna beat a radiant boss with charms that are related to damage / healing
there are a good amount of 'laws' already on social media
guys lets get back on topic
what are you fucking saying dude if you want definitions of words open a dictionary
but yes i agree
It was the use for ai in art
Which includes set as a commodity
which character from the entire hollow knight games are the most breedable
flukemarm
white lady
flukemarm x2
you wanna know the actual reason I hate ai? There isn't a way to block it. when I want info image or even music for something I can't find it because most of results are by ai. It trashes the internet with shit and most of it is disturbing
intresting
that's the first message Ive read in this server today 😭
theres alot of non ai music thats shit too
ill put those results to the test
Trying to make a hk wyrm house in Minecraft lmao
but there is also alot of filters so thats just not true 😭 q
tell me is there one on YouTube, TikTok, google, any other social media?
ive not really seen any good ai music tbh
tiktok quite literally has one ??
for youtube just dont go on shorts
people don't always tag it
Listen to we are Charlie Kirk
then it gets reported, that issue transcends to a dozen other tags\
"doctor my head hurts when i move" "just dont move"
in theory yes. in practice no
shorts is NOT worth going to anyways
lets be real
read the second half of the sentence
and also just how much its forced into everything. like on most apps where there are stupid ai chatbots built in theres absolutely no way to disable the buttons or features all together. the perfect solution ofc is just "dont click the ai button!" but that isnt the issue. its just that whenever i open the app theres 14 different ai features constantly on the screen
pretending ai slop is not a problem is a crazy crazy take
GUYS I HAVE AN ANSWER TO THE AGE OLD QUESTION
what
old man argues with clouds
flukemarm is the most breedable
fair point to be honest
WHAT
bro what are you on
regardleess ai slop is annoying but saying there arent filters is just lying lol
IM SORRY WHAT
i hate this so much
tiktok ai chatbot is like bottom 5 things oat
cuz over 90% of the time there aren't.
google ai overview is top result
there are still filters, its new
omg guys i gotta go use the instagram ai bot and then go to youtube and summarize my shorts (also ai) with it! and ofc i gotta ask my gmail ai how to file a divorce with my wife
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