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since im going back to soul sanctum i might as well try souk tyrant again
wassup nightmare kign grimm
humanity gonna go extinct before i get that 7th mask
guys is this a good spell build for soul tyrant
You must use the compass, trust
yall how do i open ts
nah its too op
do i need to do everythig on radiant
Just shaw
heagle?
omg i can actually hit something with longnail
Adino poshanka π
mark of pride π
GARAMA
frien
dont got it and id also have to overcharm for that
Git gud 
it's in mantis villagie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzalVgVd-qs
After defeating the Mantis Lords, you can pick up the Mark of Pride charm, my favourite charm by far.
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the hidden bench room?
ill get it later but still i dont have the notchπ
Its in the room with the mantis 
u have shade cloack? if yes u can obtain one in fungle waist
smart boi
that's just troupe master
oh i cant tell them apART
same thing to me
isn't him just grimm
Just shaw
Garama?
and madungdung
please dont kill me
But git gud poshanka garama shaw shaw?
shaw shaw π
hmm, heagle
Garama git gud shawkong 
what the fuck
ok soul tyrant is a lot easier with longnail
what is soul tyrant agin
ohhh soul master dream phase
Dream soul master
Dream version from the frog
dude the area of soul master when i was a starter was living hell
idrk
THEY TELPORT AND THEY DONT DIE
chat rate my humanized trobbio (someone thought i was black alastor)
Ans they shaw
In the godhome normal grimm just called grimm
ohπ₯
but that's not in godhome
where is radiant
Too lazy
Strong
I JUST STARTED HIM OON ACSENDED IN MISTAKE BUT I WEAS WITH GOOFY ASS BUILD
NOW I HAVE TO LET HIM KILL ME π
is there a mode to kill this mother fucker
ok i started fumbling so hard
PLEASE
The best build is compass πΏ
But she helps
But her laugh bro
hello guys
Ohhhhhh
onggggg
HPHPHOOHOHGO AIHIHI HEHEHEHAWE HOHNO IAHHAHAHAWEAWEBGQAHWEASE
1:1 her
I feel your pain...
Is traitor lord on radiant hard?
i have never exprinced such pain in my hands
for the normal fight
Try radiant pure vessel lol
radiant wi ll kill me
He will follow you into your dreams
Shaw
Bro why is hornet second fight so hard π
you've sent this in literally every channel π
guh
i forgor-
i thought this was art discussion
Just shaw
lol already sent it there
ikr
WHAT IS THAT PHASE 2 (soul tyrant)
ur in the end π
Its ezz
How do i dodge bro i cant dash that fast
This dash charm maybe
I forgot the name
dashmaster
Ye thanks
I hate the downdash it has though
Aura
ill prEWFER NOT TO
Then don't do it
oops caps
Do radiant Grimm and NKG
i rather kill myself
Only radiant Grimm?
Hello everybody
dude i died to radiant crawlid
Ello
Who was that again?
How are you all doing?
hell nah he pulls orbs out of nowhere
Good, you?
i just defeated abs rad
soul tyrant torture
anyways, good, you?
Not that hard
wait, did u even do white palace
White palace is ezz
path of pain 
if i did white palace i wouldnt be here doing a dream boss
oh right
But white palace is ezz
tbh white palace yeah but PATH OF PAIN IS NOT THAT EASY GNG
And fun
yall how do we call this homie
did u do white defendor
dream boss of dung defendur
also hard
soul tyrant is pain tbh
radiance is ez/
abs radiance is pain in my ass
whoever thought of thsi boss should fight a soul twister irl
Shaw
heagle
i got lost in soul sanctum and foundmyself in the geo grinder room
is that normal
Just use the shaw charm
dont think im weird he just sings very good
listining to this banger is so good
Weird people call him compass
best charm in the game imo
what is a good charm build for path of further and immense pain (the parkour to get the void charm in the pale court mod)
hiveblood
and mark of pride
and grubsong if u want
Compass 
syfm there's no map in there π
But compass 
BUT THERE'S NO FRIGGING MAP
aint it worse since like, the first parkour part i need to go through makes me jump really high
But compass 
that makes me hit the fuckin shadow spike
Okay so
use this like a good boy alr
i think im gonna have quick slash before voidcharm in my loadout
π
white palace?
And the compass 
trust papa
ok i will bro
Trust your daddy
if u h ave 2 charm notches to waist use longnail
bigger nail is a lifesaver
Where is the compass?
and hiveblood
i hate you
And i love you 
how open
You have to use the compass 
elegant key from sly i think, it's gives you a mini boss and shade soul
worth it tbh
i mainly came here shade soul anywyas
yuh
descending darks till the goat
yeah it's from sly

wait for abyss shriek π
i have both
I will never forget this picture
ALBERT GRIMM
ALBERT DONKI KONIG GRIMM
Crazy
wish me luck against raident pure vessel
That's wat i see π
why hiveblood π is ts ragebait
,,AlbtraumkΓΆnig Grimm" lol
just from the heavy blow, i know it's ragebait
Go and die (joke)
im not the guy who did some told me this build
no its not
WHY
Indeed
idk
Forget the charms, bro DIDNT FREE ALL THE GRUBS AND IS DOING RADIANT PURE VESSEL?
psychopathic
yes i hate those grubs
But you have radiant grimm, right?
public sacrfaice
wait let me see
what is with you
hes mentally ill
i dont accually hate them but i dont wanna free them all cuz u know
My friend made the deck
why bats
ask him 
anyways afk im going to eat
bruh ascended grim is so ez
Ye
2 new cards
genuine question,is this worth opening?
Im back 
How
where do i need to go after defeating the broekn vessel and obtaining the double jump
You can go to city of tears
For the dreamer
why?
do i need to or can i skip?
You need it for the story and for the hollow knight
But you can also go there later
alr
Hi back
i hate you
huh
are there any games like silksong? 2d and hard combat (not frustrating hard)
celeste is 2d ig
Ts guys deck on cr chopped
Tried it (i love it) and i said combat
oh yeah
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i know one just forgto the name
Yoo I've watched that anime bro
The one ur pfp is in
very weird because of the plot and fan service
isnt it "atleast just say"
why i put this in here
you cant get this from an egg
idrk
hello
I found a better game than hollow knight
Ello
this is amazing
hai
Thats the german word for shark lol
bruh
true
HAHAHHAHAhaA
in roblox?!?!?!?!?!? i dont think that should be allowed
YESSS
look whats allowed in roblox
pure vessel on ascended (4 damage btw)
on ios too???
W name

Is it... Pucci?
Crucifyyyyyyy
Pantheon 3 sly 
Hes easy
I did it in ascend mode
But fast
Love the game so much Ty.
anyone know when kazuha will rerun?
guys i just in green path
Don't fall in acid bro
idk he's lowkey retired π
ill try
why is he outdated for swril?
no he's good in anemo standards but he's been powercrept like all older characters
π
he's cool af id still pull
he's a super good support
what is this location called?
like who is better than kazuha
xilonen comes to mind
but she's geo and doesn't work with everyone like Kazuha
xilonen enables other natlan characters
is she good paired with raiden
nope, kazuha is better for raiden
raidens my only good dps rn, i just lost the 50;50 to furina
shakespearean tragedy π
if it makes u feel better I lost 9 50/50s in a row

why is she so chopped π
Morning everyone
dude the radiance is so ez
is this official
guys i just beated hornet
Abs radiance too
Yes
I died but gimmchild killed her
hypothetically could a pure vessel game be possible lore wise? i am rewatching mossbags lore videos and in the non flower godhome ending he survives
If there was a Hollow Knight game then it would be a Prequel
yo guys i need help, im well on my way to get platinum for the hk, i got 26/31 trophies and i am missing just 1 entery for the hunters mark (160/161) and everywhere i looked nkg is listed as one of the enteries but i banished him, am i locked out of the keen hunterβs achievement
I think
:(
i think i might just trow away my ps
The infected guy 
New save it is lmaoooo
Yes
I alone am the one infected by 10 different dms
or mental breakdown, whichever comes first
i hate Infected Crossroads
Relatable
Do it in steel soul cause why not pick up other achievements while your at it
Just dont die
this game is torturing mu soul and i dont know if i love it or hate it
Shaw it
this is how most players feel lol
you might end up liking it though
I Hate and Love this game at the same time
I love the game and hate primal aspids
Its easier to kill radiant pure vessel
The real endboss from hollow knight is the primal aspid
Primal Aspid with minigun ...
Dammit I hate this bru
I searched up hollowknight true ending fanart an get the silksong true ending spoiled
Xd
they made me suffer in tof, glad that i will never have to deal with them ever again
I DIDNT EVEN SEARCH SILKSONG
this thing is Essence of Pure Suffering
Primal Devil
Just the thought of this brings me physical pain
Imagine that with a minigun
Pantheon 6
Nah Iβd rather not
that shoots in every Direction
How did hornet escape this primal
She have the power of shaw
I Hate Hornet as a Boss
I Did beat Hornet in Greenpath in like 30 + tries and in Kingdoms edge in 10
Why it's very easy
Is 10 tries bad?
Also i Could Have Beat hornet in less than 10 tries in GreenPath but i didn't heal
im watching a video called indi cross and this is now my fav frame
I Used All the Soul for Spells
I beat it second try without heal
I Was new
I was new too
To Hollow Knight and Also 2D Games
I'm playing on switch bro
Atleast u weren't new to 2D Games
Ye, but it had been a very long time since I last played one
IDK I Didn't lock in
Is keyboard harder or controller?
Controler IG
I recently downloaded hollow knight and want smth easier
Oh ok
The only reason i'm Playing on Controler is Bc i have a lot of Progress on XBOX
Lol
Keyboard, I think
Kk π€
Keyboard and Mouse is Easy
Hmm ok
U Can set attack to Left Click
Controller is ezz too
Depends if you are Playing more on Controler or Keyboard and mouse tbh
Hai gang
Hi guys
Hi
hi
What the FUCK am i missing bruh
My brother was raging at hollow knight and it was so fucking funny
LMAO uh what have u already done
everything gang
pantheons?
i got every charm all masks all soul shards or whatever they're called
HM
i did all of them but i didn't do the ones with the restrictions and shit
idk
Have u done hive knight or grimm troupe??
Have u ascended the seer? Done colosseum?
what's hiveknight
It's a boss in the hive
i beat all 5 pantheons
oh yeah i did it and i also beat the colosseum of fools
i legit dont know what i am missing
Did u get 2400 essence?
maybe the diary of the guy in greenpath?

Yes i maxed out my dream nail
I'm like 99% sure it's not included in percentage
bro that's the only thing im missing
it's not Included
like path of pain
which i ALSO completed
Can i see the other inventory
U already finished grimm troupe?
i beat all 5 pantheons without the restrictions
i beat nightmare king grimm and that's all i did
nothing more after that
am i missing something
Have you done warrior dreams?
wait do i need to beat Grimm to get Max GrimmChild?
Not all of them but are they even all needed?
Yes u need to beat nkg
Yes they're all needed
yes
Nightmare KING GRIM
all needed
Im missing white dung defender still
Not the normal one
And i don't know who else
u need all bosses for 112
U don't need to beat white defender
Aren't they all required to unlock all the pantheons?
No you don't actually need to beat all warrior dreams for the pantheon (i think)
Let me see if i defeated all of them
Yes you need to beat nkg for max lvl grimmchild
yes im like 99.9% sure i already defeated all of them
do i need to defeat every enemy radiant in the pantheon? Is that it?
HOW DO I TRAVERSE THAT HELL. PLSS DEEPNEST IS SCARY AND HARD
No that's not required
Get lantern from Sly, if you don't have enough. Just suffer.
No you don't need to do that because you beat nkg
Beating nkg and banishing is the same thing
Shaw
Jesus christ WHAT THE FUCK AM I MISSING
Greetings traveler have a rest on our bench. We are but few poor bugs living here in this desolate place.
I'm stumped
Maybe you should just recheck the warrior dreams just in case
Shaw
Ya never know..
How much are you at rn
rate the wallpaper π£οΈ
What area do i go next?
I Defeated Fog cannyon dreamer also i Have all Upgraded abilities
how many dreamers do you have?
9,5/10
is there optimization for skin mod?
I assume you have all masks and everything
Shaw poshanka git gud
shaw
guarama
I think
Yeah
Can someone send a map of deepnest I wanna get a grimmkin and donβt wanna go to the hive
Im like 100% sure i already defeated all dream warriors since i got them all in my diary
https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight/maps/hallownest this should be the whole map of Hollow Knight including deepnest
Thanks
do i need to defeat Watcher knights?
what ending are you going for?
if its anything other than ||embrace the void|| then yes
10/10
YK I Will just defeat them for fun
it will be easy
good lucj
I Have all Spells Upgraded
dont forget to drop the chandeleir to make it easier
I had a dream recently where I went to a restaurant called BALTHAZAR and the only thing they served was hardboiled eggs.
Shaw
Just started playing for the first time what should i do first?
Ello
Ello
Uhm
Do massive Skips
Like?
Like Hornet Skip Dream Nail skip
How do i get the dash?
Defeat Hornet
Whats that?
Where
Green Path
Where's that?
just Explore the map
Okπ«‘
U Will find a lot of things
also don't attack Gruzz Mother
if u find her its a giant fly
Get Dash first
I killed it
false knight
With horns or without?
false knight
Not sure but i couldn't leave the room
you mean this guy right?
so this one?
most likely
Did it shoot Projectiles from the sky?
Yes red eith black boulders
then its this guy
thats most likely false knight
ur already alot further than me with 20 minutes when i started
it took me an hour to know where the boss is
I just found it while exploring
took me two days to figure out you coukd pogo
It was the first move i did i like to do earial attacks
watch out for that thing
You cant kill that right?
GRUZ MOother
Uhm
I think i saw a tiktok of that thing
you saw nothing trust
alr screenshoted
anyone know waht the best charms are for white palace?
hiveblood
pop or for the ||kingsoul||?
for kingsoul
yeah use hiveblood
yeah hiveblood is peak
the rest doesnt matter much but id recommend dash and sprintmaster
alr
might take some time but when i did it whenever i took a hit i just waited for the regen so i never died
just go for like a wandering build
like sprint and dash boi
get compass and then like mobility
Help here
herah isnt that hard to get jsut be aware of ||nosk||
where the hell
im not even gonna fight that guy
isn he like useless
The jump up is too big
pogo ig
maybe c dash
Itβs going up
why people telling me white palace hard when i just be speedrunning it?
the last part
No gap to pogo
wahts with the last part?
pain.
you mean path of pain?
Gap too big
send a larger image
Ok
no the last part of the white palace is basically Aliexpress path of pain
oh ok
Itβs hard cuz when I pause k die
you could maybe wall jump it idk
like
Here
Iβm dead when I unpause
if you wall jump and monarch wings you can make it high enough to pogo off
So Iβll need to pogo of it in a split second
yeah basically
Iβm cooked
you might be able to make it with two wall jumps and a double jump
Canβt
Iβll just have to keep doing it till it happens
And if I do it and fall back into the spiked imma rage quit harder than Iβve ever before
i told you so
After this atleast is just spamming c dash
path of pain but 37 primal aspids chase you
yo guys i finally beat the watcher knights
w
ASCENDED PURE VESSEL AFTER A TON OF SUFFERING ON MOBILE
how did u get hk on mobile?
fr tho
e sign and ipas
I did it!!?
guys i unlocked pleasure house, royal waterways and jiji. does that mean i need to beat ToTF if i want godhome?
bro wth is dis shit
White palace done
ye
where
i can send you a link
not virus right?
...
Guys imagine a Primal Aspid DLC For silksong
nope
and dm me for the link
its safe
i need to finish white palace platforming but im crashing out in it so then path of pain is a long shot
thats a great mod idea
sent
i actually dont know anything about silksong
With a Primal aspid boss who shoots crystals using Two Miniguns that can Rotate
and dont spoil it
erm
nah make every boss a primal aspid that can take 200 hits
it didnt send
Attack the body
check message requests
that has Two miniguns that rotate and shoot crystals?
it did
King soul w
and then slap a second phase on it that can take 400 hits
tysm bro
Oh itβs buns
yw
give it every ability you can unlock
Give it Radiance Powers too
peak
heres a warning, its gonna be really hard so if you rage try not to throw your phone across your room @exotic smelt
u need to go into the abyss with kings soul or smth
Ok ty
void heart hmmm i forgot what it is 0_0
first u get half of kingsoul from the white lady in queens gardens, then you do platforming in the white palace to get the other half, then you take it to the abyss and turn it into voidheard
i have played hk
but not on phone
on console
white palace truly be on some crack
Is this pop .
nobody told me that i will be forced to pogo off a moving saw
and then do some perfectly timed jumps
lol
my simple minded friend said gut gid π
Do queen garden one with the traitor lord boss fight nd stuff
And castle
Thn go to the abbys
oh alr
yk what i hate the infection ballons more then primal aspid i cant heal in lost kin at all because of them
my bro and i call them infection farts (we're weird, im aware)
.
im gonna crash out sooner or later
why
nah its fine i call the defender's crest fart cloud
yeah i used it for the broken vessel fight but since i did broken vessel, lost kin was a lot easier for me
where the hell am i supposed to go?
literally just bodyslam him until he dies
finaly
that's ez
rip
now i just have to go to queens garden
can someone help me navigate trough queens gardens?
hey im making a hk game any tips
dont add primal aspid
yeah i wont
imm make a new one
thats more annoying
i hate you

:)
it will shoot more
and ill add a boss version
any REAL tips
i hated primal aspids bro
make zote stronger than radience
π₯
even tough i havent got to radience yet
i beat absolute rad a couple times
like 7 times
im stuck in white palace π
dont worry we all were
is this normal
YOUR COOKED
bro gonna fight the sun
thank you. at least i can flex to my older brothers friends that im ahead of him
ADD MULTIPLAYER MOD SO I CAN TP
lol
ILL HELP YOU FIGHT
a boss bouta spawn from the air
:O
i will join you in your boss fight
you fighting abs rad or reg rad?
im guessing the queen in there?
YOU CALLED ME?!
yes. she is a tree.
it is quite obvious
i dont know
my information is very useless
YOU CALLED ME
hi
rad stands no chance
called?
yea
alr
the fuck do i do now
pogo
π
get hornet on ur side
dream nail him and defeat radiance
trust me radiance easier
and youll hear the GIT GUD
π―%
yeh
ngl the hollow knight fight itself is easier than other ive done
?
guys not long ago i just got sealed siblings ending
godhome
this enough charms?
alr
i think
erm no
yes in godhome and i think path of pain but im not sure
i dont have more
path of pain??????????? there too????????
ye i think
welp
i dont think path of pain
but idk
I defeated hollow knight again cuz I was bored
if path of pain, im cooked
Dude
But Iβm doing parkour now for some reason
Nah its normal radiance its free
i died to the 2 kingsmold gaurdians at the end of path of pain
after someone defeats the hk does the game start over or it starts from before u did the boss?
before the final boss
so u can redo it anytime?
yes
thats really good
ikr
i will practice on him when i get to the end
The radiance does 2x damage :(
yeah
yeah, u diddnt know?
guys
dont nerf noli
No
hes op and i love him
I got wrecked
Nah
i wish i could unequip void heart
i beat the ACTUAL final boss on my 3rd try
wait wym
it doesnt even take charm notches
you cant unequip after u equipped?
yeah
whos noli?
w english hk
duh
it doesnt?
ye
a killer from forsaken
oh alr
voidheart makes shade one tap and in abyss the siblings wont kill you
yeah?
thats just good imo
and it doesnt take any notches so :)
what if you beat the game with kingsoul
idk
Bro I thought Iβd hit hk and get some extra soul before radiance and ended up getting another ending
Rip hornet
radiances son, the moon will be the true boss π₯Άπ₯Ά
but wait, is the kingsoul required?
wait, if the King Soul is supposed to represent a union between higher beings, and in HN you find it fractured, does that mean that the Pale King and the White Lady are divorced?
For what
to beat the game
Yes
kingsoul turns into voidheart after a memory
ik
No
oh
guys
welp
But you need it for most endings
π³οΈ Ending 1 β βThe Hollow Knightβ
Requirements: Donβt have the Void Heart.
Method: Just defeat the Hollow Knight normally.
Outcome: You seal the infection and become the new Hollow Knight.
π To get this, youβd need to fight him before picking up the Void Heart.
If you already have it, skip to the next ending.
π€ Ending 2 β βSealed Siblingsβ
Requirements: Have the Void Heart, but no help from Hornet.
Method: Defeat the Hollow Knight again.
Outcome: You and Hornet seal the infection together.
Tip: Place a Dream Gate outside the Black Egg Temple before fighting.
π―οΈ Ending 3 β βDream No Moreβ (True Ending)
Requirements: Have the Void Heart + Awoken Dream Nail.
Method: During the Hollow Knight fight, when Hornet pins him,
use the Dream Nail on the Hollow Knight to enter the dream and fight the Radiance.
Outcome: You defeat the Radiance and free Hallownest from the infection.
π Ending 4 β βEmbrace the Voidβ (Godmaster DLC)
Requirements: Beat Pantheon of Hallownest (Godhome).
Outcome: You embrace the void and become one with it.
Accessed in: Godhome, not the main world, so you can still keep your save file.
π Ending 5 β βDelicate Flowerβ variant
Requirements: Deliver the Delicate Flower to the Black Egg Temple
and then defeat the Radiance (same as βDream No Moreβ ending).
Outcome: The same ending cutscene, but Hornet lays the flower on your grave β a special alternate version.
all endings in one playthrough
alr
how can i get the ending where hornet is not sealed with me
oh
BRUH..... new playthrough i guess
doing with mods since im too lazy
dream no more
to do allat
i ment the normal ending
damn. im all in on romance but DMANNN. das sad.
oh
zamn
good news: i beat it
bad news: the sun no longer exists and the earth will go completely dark in approximately 8 minutes
the siblings will come after us π¨π¨π¨
whos steve jobs
they should make it so when u beat the game once
guys would you rather touch grass or beat abs radiance on radiant?
Im hanging onto a other side i wont give up TILL A END OF MEEE
Go
Yeah
WELCOME TO A MIND OF THE DIFFERENT KIND WHERE WEVE BEEN GROWING SLOWLY THINK IM ON ELEVEN BUT IM ON A NINE GUESS U DONT REALLY KNOW ME
i would absolutely beat abs radiance on radiant
me too
they should make it so once u beat the game once u can skip the credits
i dont get it. am i a simple minded creature or an innocent creature
did anyone here cheese lost kin and failed champion
yh. i beat it once at school and the credits were so long that my math teacher sat next to me and we waited a while for it to end together
i cant even beat the lost kin
i am simple minded, wdym by cheese?
wait what
yeah
u beat it IN CLASS??
broken vessel was a pain for me
join vc 2 to watch a noob on a blind first playthrough
dude lost kin is ez
yes. once in design and once in the school library
it means find a cheat code to it
do y'all think we're gonna get another installment in hk series or its just gonna end after ss
real
i did him with my normal charms and dung defenders charm
wait a sec
oh. nah i beat lost kin easy but i havent fiugth failed champion yet
For lost Kin just use weaversong, sprint master, and defender's crest while holding the crystal dash in the top-left corner.
for failed champion do the same but fight him when hes staggered
ngl lost kin is only faster
im sorry i cant talk
thats it
Guys how do I beat pure vessel :)....
my throat hurts
just beat him
just beat it left and right π
i remember a mod called corrupted kin thats absolute peak,makes lost kin alot harder,but also alot more fun
it doesnt work
the vc chat
sharp shadow I think
guys will i cook?
i just brute force him
im currently trying to beat him too
guys should i have left zote to die or saved him because i made him die from vengefly king
good
k
gooooooooood
you shouldve saved him he is goated
you grt the bad ending
made the right call,hes a absolute pain in P5 if you bother fighting him in brettas dreams
join hollow knight vc 2 to watch a noob on his first playthru!
but zote would of took bretta from me
i beat moss charger in like 3 secs
isnt the beefed up zote boss just
RANDOM BULLCRAP GO
i saved him. he is currently trapped in colloseum of fools because i saved him from deepnest after doing the first trial and now i also left colloseum before doing trial of the fool
waht if i dont dreamnail?
youll get sealed siblings
then u get sealed siblings ending
hornet gets sealed in with you
alr
yeah
but it's awesome tho
hornet going down with me
yay
GIT GUD hornet
i still dont get why ido so much damage tho
unbreakable strength?
like it? its a live wallpaper so the raindrops are falling
i got him in like 10 hits
and then hornet came
what do yall play hk on
xbox 1
How to get on mobile?
I need it
i do nintendo
join vc 2 to help a noob pls
