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Y'all I need help
First - game, Second - main character, Third - the final boss
Except the game is called "hollow knight" not "the hollow Knight" and there's only one character named "the hollow knight"
I'm tryna make a PV edit but can't find any clips can y'all gimme some
There is only ONE Hollow Knight
The game is not just a dream of thk
The hollow knight hollow knight hollow the hollow knight hollow the knight hollow
Im dead ASF if only the game had more names
The main character is just "the knight" or "little ghost" literally nobody has ever referred to them as "the hollow knight"
Bro its 3 AM of course I do horrible shit
Anybody got PV animations or any kind of clips for edits??
That one rap battle with shovel Knight 
I've been trying to find clips for this edit for the past hour and a half
That is not the only thing that doesn't make sense in their statement it's just the biggest thing
Shovel knight is an idiot
:c
Figure it out
IM DYING
Shut up sand undertale
What even is the argument anyway, What are you guys talking about THK
I DONT KNOW BRO
I GENUINELY CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ORIGINAL SENTENCE WAS SUPPOSED TO mean
What's the sentence
This
aw
It's an SS comment to begin with. That shit should not go in here 
It's pure gibberish
I told them that too
@undone wasp Delete your message
It doesnt belong in hk channels nor the sk channels and there certainly isn't a channel for both games? Where do I go then?
Reminds me of the time everyone chortled at Jokers boner
It belongs in the fucking SK channel
SK?????
Fym it doesn't, your discussing something that happens in Silksong
Silk knight????
What kind of logic is this 😭
And I also put in stuff that goes for the original game
Using SS apparently got the server in trouble, so the channels go by SK now
IT STILL GOES IN SK
Sk discussion applies to both fucking games 😭
Why did it get it in trouble?
I dunno'. iirc It was because Discord saw it as Nazi or somethin
Damn rest in peace to everyone who likes talking about boats lmao
Oh hey, Sonia is lurking
Zoteboat 
But is the zoteboat a screw steamer
How many times do I have to kill zote the mighty to actually not have him respawn with more cool names
I don't think it ever ends
You don't.
Also he gets more names?
What about bretta
After 10 Wins it just stops, but you can't get rid of them
Also do you mean grey prince zote?
They'll be there for the rest of eternity
Because zote the mighty is just the name of the guy
yeah
Hi @open shuttle
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The heart warming great mighty fabulous magnificent unholy beautiful grey prince
Do you want me to fart you out more gibberish sentences
Numeral kleptomaniac guys
Never kick goats?
why does no one ever talk in #modding-discussion 😭
What is bro revolutioning against
Revolutioning is not a word
Ok clanker
Wow
We're really letting people just say slurs now?
STOP SENDING IT
ITS NOT FUNNY
I.... I know
Wow
So we're both robophobic AND homophobic
Crazy
Look at this
Why is this chat so weird
I
Don't
Know
<@&283547423706447872>
They also called me the C slur

😨
Personally I don't think that's okay
Hello get a new name
What do you all know about gronk from muck
Should I get silksong on my Xbox? I haven't finished any of the hollow knight 1 endings yet.
Does anyone know if the pop lever wall can be broken from the other side?
Cough.
I really recommend silksong after getting 108% tbh, it allows you to build critical skills in exploration and combat plus have the knowledge in lore and just gameplay enough (aka full game minus pantheons)
why is he looking at me like that 🗿
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@woeful badger ok 👍
Insane
Grimm and NKG 
being pretty new to the game I can't tell if you're mocking me and this is considered easy lol
if it's not the case, I honestly think that markoth is 10x more difficult than Grimm and nkg
The pantheons shouldn't be too hard for you
rad no eyes my beloved (you'll breeze through the pantheons if you haven't already done them on another file)
first time actually, I just finished the master one
should I do one with bindings and then proceed, or do all normal first? you guys decide
He wants your geo
i just got crystal heart, sadly i am a beleiver in self defence so i had to kill myla
she hit me first i swear
i'd suggest you to just do them normally without bindings, but in the end it's your choice
^^^^^^^
I had glowing womb on 😭
radiance time
Babagundala
in terms of completion, should I do for ex. pantheon one 4 times, each with a different binding or once with all 4 together?
The only difference between doing one at a time or all at once is that in doing the latter the bindings above the door will glow. Besides that, no real difference. None of them count for completion either so it's mostly for skill tests and also getting additional aid in the bench sections.
If you don't care for any of that you can just not do them too.
Radiant radiance when?
yall know a place for me to get hollow knights skins without getting my accounts distributed to the the dark web (yes ive checked mod help)
@shut dome clanker
Check #modding-discussion pins. It has all the guides and websites needed.
thx
wsg
Hello chat how are y'all
good and u
Guys my dad found a literal wii in the trash zone (dont ask) and there was no sensor cable and my dad took his lighter and i used the wii controller and it worked somehow and now he's literally gonna jailbreak the console so wish me luck and hope the nintendo ninjas dont come
not sure exactly where i should post this so im just posting it here
i put together a hollow knight themed desktop today, got the wallpaper off wallpaper engine so its not by me but i did custom make the clock and date and im honestly very happy with it all, just wanted to share it
Big news for the unemployed
hello people
Use steam software
Mobile bro
Ohh
No have money
No mobile
Você fala português?
No have money=no have silksong
No
Nah jk
Aw man
No chill im kidding-
Wii was found in the trash zone
No sensor but used a lighter so it works
Its used
Might get it fixed sooner or later
It reads discs just doesnt have the thingy sensor
It had mario kart wii and super mario bros wii
And everything else on it will be jailbreaked
Idk
And vírus?
Damn my phone turned off
It was a joke tho but virus no?
I'm back so uh how are y'all
Knight, are you hollow.
Shepard herr yes
So you are THE hollow knight??
Took me one hour but I FINALLY defeated Markoth on Radiant
Big news for the unemployed
OH MY GOD
hollow knight mobile players are insane
yoo guys
act 3 spoilers
#hollowknight #silksong #hollowknightsilksong #bossfight #walkthrough #gameplay
how much do you hate yourself ✌️
But you are hollow and you are a knight
a ton to the point i beat pop on mobile
Honestly that fight is a prime example of why Hall of Gods is probably the worst addition to the game as the game was clearly not designed with radiant difficulty in mind. Some bosses are straight up unfair when you can't take any damage
So aren't you the hollow knight then🤔🤔
Dawg it's hk chat not skong
hollow knight: silksong
Oh Wait he's got a point
Guys I did a backwards super dash and now I wanna do it again
Then do it again
that’s the problem
You just have to GIT GUD.
I was messing with mods that let me clip through transitions with super dash
Just like hornet said
As a wise man said, there is no problems. Only solutions
Well um find the solution to my inquire
I swear I have beef with radiance
Try absolute radiance
Like,for sum reason I find nkg easy,but radiance,ohh hell nahh
Nope
Yup
if anyone here cares, just spreading the news
Nuh uh
Maybe I just hate projectile enemy
Big news for the unemployed
AHHHHHH
yep the company that started hytale before it was sold to riot games
brain fart
Yeh I know that
I was so hyped for hytale tho, unfortunately it was cancelled
True wisdom is not on finding all answers, but in realizing the essence of the questions.
Anyway,does anyone has trouble with lost kin
Kk
if you havent been following, simon one of the founders was very serious on buying the ip back and what was made so far, the rabbit hole goes deep with it, and now after a long time of silence since his last posts we see this new studio pop up back again
HELL YEAHHHHHHHH
that registry effectively means its pretty much back
unless the official canadian corpo registry is just ragebaiting people, which i doubt it lol
no promises but simon did say IF he got the ip back he will try to get it out before gta 6
anyways ima head out and keep spreading the news more
We got hytale before gta6 is crazy
YOOO IT TOOK ME 2 TRIES BUT I DID EVERY PANTHEON WITH ALL BINDINGS
yooo im a 9 year vet to hypixel
chat do we agree that trobbio would be black with virtiligo or naw (im making a humanized version and i have no idea what to make the skin color)
How to beat pantheon 5 goddamn
Asking out my crush is easier than beating pantheon of hallownest
HOW
I have only seen them from images posted but... that doesnt actually look incorrect tbh, like, i wouldnt know a color if you asked me, but doesnt ferl like a wrong choice either, just give that bright colorful hair n stuff 
chat i am fighting the hollow knight for the first time
wish me luck
okay i got him phase 3 first try
ill take that
oh ok i like glowing things, thanks
also is there a radiant equivalent of pantheons?
Visually speaking? Only in the last one. It gives a different type of glow, but for some reason it gets overriden by the all bindings glow if you do it in the same pantheon.
noo that's sad
last question, is there a website like the one for trackmania world records? where you can see every category and the players' times
If you mean speed you can check the speedrun website. If you want to see hitless completions like p5 hitless we have a google spreadsheet.
fun fact, I played that many years ago and disliked it so much that I didn't want to play hk, knowing they were kinda similar
then when silksong got out, a friend asked me to try hk and I fell in love with it
my friend hated hk till o convinced him to play it
I died with 100 of those blue orbs once and stopped playing on my xbox. I recently bought it again on pc but I'm busy with other games right now.
now hes in love and idk why you disliked deadcells its one of my favorite indied
sekiro and like 4 other games juggling so many games
sorryy it's probably a great game, it's just me
imean its all good up to you
alright thanks for the information!
Sekiro is really nice, unfortunately souls games are pretty expensive so I'm not rebuying them on pc.
lol yeah sekiro is fire
I know what I'll be busy doing for the next months 👀
thats valid tho i could rebuy them rn but im waiting for a sail
Yeah if there's a major sale I can maybe buy it or one of the dark souls games. The only one I'm not buying it is Elden Ring since I have it on my xbox and I haven't played or seen anything about the dlc somehow, so there's no point in buying the game and the dlc when I can just buy it when there's a sale on xbox.
i have sekiro and elden ring i wanna get bloodborne and the sould
souls
but im hella addicted to hk right now
Yeah no point in buying them rn otherwise they will be just collecting dust haha (looking at the other 6 games I bought waiting for me to get over Balatro and Terraria).
and sorry ahead of time for this sentence but i think hk is better then silksong nost people say im stuck up on nostalgia
but idk its just my take
I'm still in act 2 and it could be that I'm really busy irl with my term paper and exams, but so far silksong hasn't grabbed my attention as much as hk did. I just opened it after 2 weeks so yeah understandable. I will probably enjoy it more when I finish it for the first time and finally get some free time to play it with no pauses.
i got true ending like a month ago
and havent touched ti since iv been 100 percenting everything on hk pls hella mods
I see. Well good luck with that! Also we both got RZ pfps. Nice taste. See ya.
since he is the last one to have the king's brand, which marks him as the king of hallownest, that makes him the king
oh only the best brother
hes dead icl
the ghost?
yes well no
Not sure he was ever alive to begin with
he cant be the king hes the king of void
why are they exclusive
wich?
The Knight is technically the King of Hallownest
being king of the void and being king of hallownest
They are the Higher Being of The Void. I don't think there's much to "Rule" in The Abyss
but hes not once he becomes the king of voide he loses all his thing
he no longer has the mark so technically hes not the king
not much of a kingdom anymore though
Could rebuild
we only know that being the last one to have it makes you the king, as the pale king was still king despite not having it
yes but by the logic the pale king should still be king too then since even tho he died he still has the mark since he made the mark the mark is just a piece of his shell so by that logic he shall never lose his mark
The Knight isn't dead, the King is
I don't see where your going with that logic
Because It's shell is gone?
ok so its like this
touching the brand doesn't automatically make you king, but it marks you as king
no because when he became king of the void he lost all physical belonging and the mark is a piece of the pale kings shell so its physical
for the purpose of explanation the kings brand is a red beret
he doesnt touch it he takes it with him
It did not become King of the Void
It became It's higher being. It's not the same
the pale king wore the red beret, after wearing it he no longer needed to wear it, because everybody knew he did wear it, and wearing it marks him as king
holy have you got any ending and he is in silksong too
it is tho get the godhome ending
Don't spoiler Silksong stuff
greetings everyone would you be so kind as to give me all your money
you wanted it your arguing lore without knowing anything
What about the GOdhome ending? It just creates Void Given Focus and effectively becomes the God. Not the King
being the king of hallownest is a normal political position, people who can recognize the mark will recognize you as the king
What are you even saying
yeah the higher void being is the king of the void
Higher being does not equal Royalty
people see the ghost walking around with the red beret, they acknowledge him as king
And this is coming from where?
Where did you get that title form, or are you making it up
literlly any lore video along with lore tablets in the game brother
if the hollow knight stops wearing it, they would still know he did wear it, and treat him as king until somebody else wears it
becuase he carries it with him
the pale king was the king of hallownest but cannot continue to be and the game acknowledges that you are the new king
yes he WAS the king but on anymore
theres no king he has no physical form a king is a ruler to a kingdom he is no ruler
Show the lore tablets then
and the knight will continue to be the king until hallownest changes its political system or somebody else shows up with the kings mark
dude thing i just have screenshots of them
they're all on the wiki
Hallowscribble, tell me the locations, I'll search them
but hes no ruler il look up the definition of king for you
But please, tell me where the fuck your getting "King of the void" from
idk i watched a lore video on it
🥀
Ofc I'm dcussing with one of these
I'm not gonna bother, I'ma go eat. Bye Forge, good luck
holy one of THESE dudes
wehre did you get your info then?>
From the actual game.
wanna be like that
havent even played the silksong
I've 100%d
you dont even got the full lore iv 100 percented both games
Again silksong has nothing to do with this discussion.
i have too brother
it has lore for hk idk what you mean
Adn your only argument for "King of the void" title is : "I watched a lore video"

Brother in christ, tell me what the sources for the title come from, THAT ARE INSIDE THE GAME
ok and if its true its true?
Show me what proves it's true, that isn't another's words
This page lists all Lore Tablets found in Hollow Knight. Click on the images to zoom.
Table of Contents
Ancient Basin • City of Tears ( Soul Sanctum • Watcher's Spire ) • Dirtmouth ( King's Pass ) • Fog Canoyon • Forgotten Crossroads • Fungal Wastes ( Fungal Core • Mantis Village ) • Greenpath • Howling Cliffs • Kingdom's Ed...
Show me the Lore tablets you spoke of, show me the dialogue
Tell me the exact location of the tablets, I'll read them myself
🥀
none of these even mention the brand or the king outside of like the general sense
he literally commands the void
First of all, Yes. That does not make it a ruler, it makes it a god
if you actually 100 percent silksong and hk liek you said youd know
Second of all, Vessels are genderless
ok so?
The Knight isn't a He 
its just a placeholder
Correct, The Knight is the one that commands the void. It is not the King of the Void, because that title has never existed
It is it's god and what controls it.
I've literally haven't even disagreed with you, I'm just disagreeing with the notion of calling them "King of the void"
Because they are the God of the void 
btw by king of shades im referring to lord of shades wich are void
Lord of shades, It's called Lord
It'd be the "Lord of the void". that'd be accurate
Not King, Lord.
ok so argument over hes lord of shades not king of hollownest
Yes
he can be and is both though
he was king of hollownest but he lost all physical form and belonging so there for he doesnt have a mark and by forges logic of having the mark making you king hes not king
being seen with the mark makes you king
hes not tho ever seen a king be the king of 2 places
like you just said WITH the mark he no longer has the mark
thats called a Dual monarchy.
To be fair it isn't said you need the mark to keep the title
It just says that whoever is marked becomes King.
having been seen with it is what makes you king, not having it
he was seen with it
people remember him having the mark, and until somebody else takes the mark, he is the king, because those people made him king based on him having the mark
whoever is marked he wsa but isnt anymore
To be fair it's not like after EtV The Knight Loses it's body
We know Godseeker mode happens after the events of P5. and The Knight has It's body still
no they never made him king they just obeyed the mark
there sno crowing of the king
obeying the mark means recognizing him as the king
So by all means after EtV The Knight is still king of Hallownest
when he has the mark
if that meanshaving the mark your reconized
the therefore hes not when he doesnt have the mark
having the mark makes people recognize him as a king, he will continue to be recognized as the king regardless of having the mark
holy your saying it in your own sentence's
Scalp the mark off will he still be king
he IS the mark
and is no longer the king because the knight is now recognized as the king
he made it you fool
the mark is his he has one himself the mark is literally a part of the pale king
Lore battle incoming
why would he make the mark, the mark designed to identify somebody as the king of hallownest, if not to identify himself as the king of hallownest and create a system for subsequent kings of hallownest to be recognized
Lore battle postponed allowed Google time 10 mins
It was something left behind after he was reborn
exactly
i mean it could be a stick off a tree, he made the political system of hallownest, he intentionally made it so whoever has this is recognized as the king
Why would he do that 
but theres no support in that claim you see
obviously to allow for subsequent rulers to follow after him
the pale king was also known for being a very logical guy
Why would he think that'd be needed
we know he did it because that is what happens
he wouldnt do that
He didn't even know there'd be a threat to his kingdom.
He was fully expecting it to remain eternal, with him in charge, there would be no need for another ruler
exactly he even thought his kingdom was the only one in the world
You do remember the Pale King's (And Wyrms in general) Whole deal is to have Eternal Kingdoms, right?
according to the first lore tablet
but then why does the political system he create have an item that recognizes a new ruler
Probably was written thinking It'd BE The Last Kingdom
he never made it
Because he didn't fucking make it on purpose
it was aways there the reason they see whoever holds it as the king is because its APART of the king
like iv been truna say
He even added a seal of protection to the "Egg" inside the Wyrm body to prevent anyone from touching it
The reason hornet has to protect it is because said Seal weakened overtime
Hornet assigned herself the role of "Hallownest Protector"
In the battle of KE she's called "Hornet Sentinel" Because she's the sentinel of the King's brand
So the in game lore flavor text of the kings brand saying "hallow nest shall recognize a new ruler" does not indicate that this item is responsible for designating a new ruler?
I dunno' I forgor
It'd say it is
shall recognize one because the pale king was a being that basically brainwashed bugs if you take the pale kings brand yeah they will recognize you as the pale king not you
The characters recognize he is not the pale king
He did not brainwash anyone
yes and no
He gave higher sapience to bugs and said bugs began adoring him
Oh... hmm... Could it be? You've returned at last? No. No...
Oh pardon me! For just a moment, I mistook a certain quality about you. You seemed almost... regal.
Silly, I know. It's clear you're not of high birth, wandering about all dirty and tattered like that.
yo how did we get here we eneded this eons ago saying that the knight is no longer the king
it was end of story centuries ago
I'd say It is
The only thing we know is that the hollow knight has the only claim to the throne out of any character in hallownest, because the king's brand is the only claim to that throne in hallownest, and he is the only other person in the story known to have claimed it
did this but it wasn’t pantheon 
yeah and i have agreed with you befire that he WAS the king but he isnt anymore
the pale king is dead, he is not the king of hallownest, the only character recognized as the king of hallownest since the pale king has died as far as know is the ghost
but hollownest is a fallen kindom too even if the was a king thered be no point
why would he stop being the king, the possession of the mark is not what makes him the king, the position of king is not magical
people seeing him with the mark and then recognizing him as the new king is what makes him the king, not magic
well like all you said the brand makes them ther king so they shouldnt be the king if they dont have it
i have said 10 times why not having the brand would not make you stop being king
and theres no king because theres no kingdome left to be king to
you have been recognized as the king because you have the mark, you did not stop being recognized as the king when you lost the mark
hollownest is long in fallen and ruin
that it is
ok ok how are you to be king if you do not govern a kingdom you bare the mark of a king at a point but shall not anymore a king has to be present in a kingdom a king is a ruler
guys should I use controller or keyboard for this game ?
the knight cant rule if he has no physical form
ewww controller
easily
In DNM Yes, Not EtV
The Knight in EtV very much has a physical form still, keepin It's husk
alright thx
but also in the godhome ending we seem his become the lord of shades
a king is whatever the monarchy that makes him king defines it as, there have been many kings that are not rulers, there are kings today that are not rulers, IE the british monarchy and the denmark's constitutional monarchy
the last person to have been defined as the king of hallownest is the ghost, he will not stop being the king of hallownest until people stop recognizing him as the king, which they will not do until there is a political structure shift in hallownest or a new person is recognized as king under the current system, by presenting the mark
im stuck on fucking radiance
The Godseeker mode happens after The events of Pantheon 5
They still have a body
i beat nkg and im stuck on a moth that went into the flame
there was a time when there was a king that was no longer alive because people recognized his "sprit" as the king
look here
Don't quote google AI
theres only been 1 king
i beat p5 so now it's time for something infinitely harder... THE ETERNAL ORDEAL
this isnt about hk its abt being a king
we have already demonstrated that is not true
a king can be literally anything
other then the knight theres only been 1 king
yes that is true
there have only been two kings of hallownest in the current system of governance
though individual areas have their own local kingdoms, like the hive and deepnest
yes and i agree at SOME POINT the kinght has been king
but all im trying to say is he isnt anymore
the knight continues to be the king until a new king is recognized
the mark makes him the king, after that the only thing that can make him not the king is a new person taking up the mark
you've just quoted google AI again
Kings brand
ok so it knows more then you
its an AI, it generates random bullshit
your saying random bullshit
it doesn't know anything, its a random text generator thats weighted
your just saying the same shit over and over
And you fail to be capable of understanding it
You're incapable of forming a grammatically correct sentence
he does not have it, he does not need to have it to continue to be king
in the game even hornet herself guard the area so nobody claims to be new king
hornet is also the one who instructs him to take it so he can become the king
holy even the game is telling you otherwise
and one of many characters to recognize him as the king
idk what else you want brother
That's a bit after you beat her
No, it does not.
yes it does the mark of the king brands you the king
with the mark your branded the king
Yes, it does
No
Posessing the mark makes you king, once you touch the mark you are now the king
Having possession of the mark does not decide whether you are, or are not the king, it can ONLY make you the king
look lord of shades
and hes a new power say it doesnt know shit
but obv saying more then you
its stating a valid point other then he had it at some point
idk what else you want'
anyway im going to sleep goodnight
look my AI says your ai is wrong
pussy move you can literally change what it says
il record myself looking it up
"my ai is better then yours" ahh
You moron, whenever you input text into an LLM you change what it says, its a prediction model designed to predict the response that gets positive feedback
It, much like you, is not capable of thought
still not a solid point your just throwing insults thinking it will help you lol
your getting headed over lore in a game
calm it down buddy i can throw insults all day too if i wanted
your just pulling shit out your ass like a genuine dumbass hoping it will help you win your shitty as argument with a point thats held together by a damn piece of chicken wire
now goodnight
hope your pillow is warm
Hi, I'm new here
New in the server or game
sup
Hii
And you still cant tell the difference between your and you're despite being told it, because you are incapable of learning or absorbing new information
Danggg
still jsut a insult
YOOOO
i gave a point
You can't understand how basic technology works after being informed on exactly how it works
Bro just said he's dumb to a whole nother level
you just insulted
Because you can't understand
Hiii chat
say it all you want your just mad over some words like a kid
like a little ass kid buddy
why r people arguing 😢
Please leave for a moment,this place is in shambles
lore
Im making observations, it just happens that the thing im observing is a braindead idiot who can't string together two sentences in my language without making a spelling mistake
What 🥀
no just your words hoping it helps
trying so hard to defend yourself
Bcuz someone said the other person dumb for explaining stuff that is correct
bug kill moth end of lore 😎
We've already established you are beyond help
your just heated over some words like a legit kid i was just having fun arguing abt some lore
"like a legit kid"
i don't even know the lore that well so i can't even give an opinion
but you made it alot more HAVING to be right
it's just insult throwing rn
basically it boils down to
"having x makes you y, regardless of whether you continue to have x"
"ok but he doesn't have x so he isn't y"
Yeah
what's the specific point being argued rn
first insult thrown entire argument*
you insulted first tho
He's screenshotting random AI text as a source after iv linked the wiki
ok but what's the part of the lore being argued over
Ok so what's the lore here,what the Fu is going on
the ghost is the current king of hallownest
as far as we know*
Oh yeah,it's true
ahh
because once you touch the king's brand you become the king of hallownest
Cuz of kings brand yeah
yeah
once you are seen with the king's brand*
zero defense against what?
i have you a million different arguments and you just said the same shit
so did sum1 else
This is some ace attorney type shi
hell yeah
you're never escaping
gna be my frist time >:3
now pls im going to sleep
I only need one argument because my one argument is backed by empirical evidence, not vibes and AI hallucinations
"well this is clearly wrong" type argument lmao
i bought hk for silksong thinking i'd be done with it quick
guess where 80 hours went
that we gave you proof he isnt too
What proof?
You have never linked to a single source.
You have never given a single source.
OK OK CHILL,can someone tells me what's going on,so I can identify the source of the problem
the fact that hes the lord of shades the fact he doesnt have the brand anymore the fact that to be a king you need to govern a kingdom wich first of all theres no kingdom its in ruin and second of all he doesnt govern since he cant
he isnt king bc he the lord of shades
forge is arguing the ghost is the king of hallownest and joyful is arguing the opposite
Oh
Why would not having the brand anymore make him not king, where it it said that losing the brand takes away your status as a king
where in the game does it say the king is required to govern
where does it say in the game that the lord of shades cannot be king
If that's the case then,ghost is indeed the king of hallownest,because of kings brand,u could clearly see it's effect in the white palace
your logic has changed throut the entire thing your changing it to what fits the best
is it ever even stated he doesn't have the brand anymore lol
as well as 8 npcs recognizing you as the king, including the pale king's wife
Yeah,once we have the brand we always have it throughout the entire game
My logic doesn't need to change, its consistent because its right
8 npc as also millions of shads recognizing him as the shade lord lol
Yeah,white lady too
yeah that's what i thought
whether he is the shade lord or not is irrelevant to his status as the king of hallownest.
white lady is his wife
the vessels use it/its!!!!
true
Waittttt,are u saying that the shade in abyss didn't attack cuz were the king? Nope
Yeah ik
but also going back to what i said to be king a king has to govern literal what a king is the pale king was king bc he governed the kingdom
the vessels don't use any pronouns they don't have gender
idk what crack your on brother just stay out
No they don't, iv cited examples of kings that do not govern.
ruler of hallownest and being able to unite the void are two different things dictated by two different checks
pop in outa now where and act like your in it
youre right!
well like i said eons ago im going to sleep
Idk what brainfart type yours in but u said that
which is why it's it/its not they/them
i tried to end this a while back but he just wanted to be right so bad
sure budd ywanna hear it so bad your right
which is why you use it/its or they/them. there's also the fact vessels are exclusively referred to with it/its
They are right 
itll make your fragile ego better
Exactly
itll make the kid happy
you've said you were going to leave 4 seperate times and are still here.
Void heart is the reason we are shade lord,kings brand is the reason why we are the king
i feel like it's pretty simple that the ghost is both the king and the shade lord at once lol
Voidheart makes The Knight a higher being
exactly
Which is the shade lord,yeah,we became one with the shadow
well no bc tk was already a higher being
Voidheart does not equal Void Given Focus
im pretty sure that the voidheart technically makes him the exact opposite
Yeah that
cause the void opposes the higher beings
Check the desc
it/its!!!!
Voidheart unites the void, Void Given Focus come onto being due to the Godseeker's adoration
Tell me who iare the higher beings
pale king and radiance let me link the wiki where it says this
Also unn
putting aside the arguing, I did p5, all radiants, and the eternal ordeal! (wahoo) now i can finally do silksong (:
all wyrms are higher beings, the pale king is a wyrm
very nice
thanks
The Pale King, White Lady, Unn, The Nightmare Heart, Radiance and The Knight (With voidheart)
no!!! tk is already a higher being!!
Unn too,and probably shade lord,and/or even nightmare heart,there's more higher beings than just 2
Who is tk
Yeah I know there's a bunch that was just the examples listed in the wiki has higher beings
the knight probably
Yeah,I understood
This is the part of the lore I'm groggy on because wouldn't him having the void heart mind of make him a "lower" being
anyways all the higher beings we're aware of are pk, wl, rad, unn, nightmare heart, vessels, potentially shade lord but it's weird
Not the knight if it was a higher beings,but shade lord is
it! it/its!!!
the knight
Also the the Gods of the land of storms
oh yeah that person
i was just saying what i thought the acronym was
Vessels aren't higher beings,they're from white lady
they don't go by a gender so they can't be misgendered, like calling a boat she/her
a non binary person still has gender they just don't believe in a binary gender
what
Are u dense...
yeah they were born from two higher beings
they are for all intents and purposes objects, and you can project any gender onto an object
you would refer to a boat as it so they're just saying the knight would also be reffered as an it
that makes them higher beings
It's like saying 2 gods have children's,they're a god too
that's what it's like in greek mythology and stuff
i will now be referring to my agender friends by he/him
you would normally refer to a boat as it but boats are often given genders, an in the US navy it was common for all boats to be women, and still is in US naval culture
Objects of course don't have gender but we personify them and give them gender from time to time, and this is harmless because they have no gender, and do not care about gender
like???? no???? dont do that
They became a demigod
demigod is mortal/god
agender uses any pronoun
yes???? we agree????? what's the issue
not necessarily
i honestly don't know what i'd be arguing about if i answered this so i'll just concede
people do this with cars too
and of course people can ask you to use specific pronouns, the vessels however do not do this
guys what is even being talked about anymore
do we remember this is hk general lol
I felt like a dumahh trying to explains stuff
yes but they are repeatedly and exclusively referred to with it/its
i would simply go with it/its like the game suggests
It's also an off topic channel,check the tag
that's true
i guess this would be weirder for hk discussion
they're not gods themselves, for example under christianity every living being is gods children, but not every living being is a god, and this is similar across many religions and in the game they're never referred to as higher beings
i also remember seeing a reddit comment from tc talking about this and supporting it/its for vessels, though i could not find it for you
Anyway,back to the original thing,yes ghost is indeed the king of hallownest
i don't think there's a definite answer
👍
that stopped a while ago after that guy left
true hollow knight discussion
I've won
i could point at the first 3 minutes of the game if i wanted, where the game calls you a higher being directly
id like to see the ghost actually rule hallownest as the shade lord
What are u saying bruh,do you want clash of clans (hollow knight edition).....
gotta wait for the third game zote boat
or smth idk
we also know that passing down divinity is the way that it works in this universe. hornet is a half higher being. this is important
Quirrel please
though that can be a side tangent depending on the specifics of what you think
thats a weird area cause thats a lore tablet
have you played through the game fully
Vro, u can't be serious
thats words written for somebody able to be seen by a mechanism we know higher beings use
Yes,but we can make it a prequel
trueee
Quirrel already protagonized a Prequel
That'd just seem unfair
I want the comic to continue with a game
specifically i think the pale king or his wife wrote them
idk what comic you mean
Hornet too,so why not,he also has a connection with a dreamer like hornet does,so why not
Because Horent isn't a prequel 
The hollow knight quirrel comic?
Is a sequel,I know but why not bruhh
never heard of/ seen it
One, because Quirrel sucks.
wait nvm the void entity is recognized as a higher being in the wiki
Void Given Focus is the "God of Gods".
🫢
It's only a chapter, ik it's a disappointment,so that's why I want it to continue
i see
How is it a disappointment
Oh my god
we get to see the wastelands.
It's only one chapter
There's no continuation
Yesssss
Honestly I'd like more to see a game centered on Ellina
Or maybe Ze'mer. Ze'mer makes sense
who??
? Who?
i don't know those names
i wanted an episodic game where you temporarily play as some characters from both games
I want to see when was quirrel called,the vivid memories he said about,the adventure,and finally his descend from the howling cliff
Ellina and Ze'mer?
I meannn
Whi the hells ellina 
either i've never seen them or forgot their names
Do you mean Emilitia
like for one section you're quirrel at a certain time in the story and for another section you're a silksong character or a character from the comics at a different point in the story
The writer of the Wanderer's journal
Moth I expected better lore knowledge from you.
Zemer is grey mourner,elline me forgor
ahh
Ohhh
This game has no lore fyi
zote can be the MJ sections.
I want quirrel tho
According to Ari Gibson, only William thinks HK has no lore. HK is all lore.
[Source](#off-topic message)
wow
But we need the lore for the lore
have you even played the game
Yes the best backup for an answer is acting like the other party is attacking you
As I said, Ze'mer would be good for a prequel. She's a foreigner, she brought a Mcguffin from her lands, and she's strong as fuck
ragebait
Your victimizing yourself
Case in point^
Stop playing victim
buddy they made half the game
Also is quirrel
Nowhere there i see no victimizing
Quirrel we know his end, who cares about that guy
Now it seems you are the one attacking me
Shut Up moil
But what about his start?
Case in point 2
He's a student of Monomon, that's it
its ok ismoil i will save you
person joins chat>starts ragebait>ragebait is successful i guess??
Again, Quirrel is boring and lame as fuck. A game about him would be boring
Aight I dense fu,so why does hornet gets a sequel
Holly White Knight
People cant handle truths so they cope it as ragebait i fear
I JUST DID ABSOLUTE RADIANCE ON RADIANT
how dare you disrespect my boi
Shut up
Because she's the most popular character of the fucking game 
nice bro
ALSO IS QUIRREL,DUHHHH
YOUR Cope
Literally no 
i mean gameplay wise i think he would fit but lore wise i don't see a point in making a game about him
Quirrel is Nowehre close. ZOTE Is more popular
im sorry but you've gotta stop feeding into this ragebait lmao
Ight,bro u cross the line
it's not gonna lead anywhere
Also because Quirrel wasn't on the kickstarter
weak ragebait
fr
The reason hornet got a game was because she was a goal in the kickstarter
Quirrel wasn't even thought about
No ragebait but if it was it seems pretty succesful
FUCKING ZOTE was the next goal 
Yes ragebait
Your Lame Greenie
Quit talking in this chat. This dumpster belongs to us
I mean if you believe so good for you! We can all imagine some times
That's the element of surprise
Now that's just coping
He's not even in the Kickstarter too
Yes we can, imagine some better bait
He literally was
I dont even know you 🤔
Just trust me bro
Nein
Surely if you say so 🤷
this chat is great for arguing over this silly bug game
I do say so and don't call me shirly
Whos shirly
not sure
Bro I want quirrel,imagine the new mechanics of the game,we already got crests,charms,next is idk
@burnt heath He said the C word, do your job
Well you are the one who brought them up so
He talked about Silksong, delete their message or sum 
I will kill you with hammers
2/10 bait missed oppurtunity to make a naked gun joke, 1/10 culture
Come on Mr. Mod, do your job
Blurry af but that could be anyone
Well duh all guns are naked, why whould i need to reference them?
Attempted mantis Lords on ascended and DANG THEY ZOOMING (I laughed)
just you wait until you fight their p5 version
1/10 last word feels like llm wrote it
Quit talking
If all the stuff you rate is low it kinda feels like the problem is you i fear
Quit using I fear
No i fear
Newgen
Literally this week join telling me this
1/10 rating assessment, iv never rated things this low before
Guess tho has this many messages 
why are you proud of this
How long have you been here dude
Theres a reason it says "new"
you can check
It's not me 
Where
four years
Didn't reach it
I reached the limit, damn it
😢
-# skill issue
I want quirrel dlc right now
meanie face
Oil.
same
what kind of oil
Mothm
"uh Uh Oil." Is certainly not close to my name
interesting
fire comeback
Good you got three letters out of 11
I'll even be a team of teamcherry if it's for a quirrel dlc
You are not cool and nonchalant
You are uncool and aware
And all youre messages so far have been nothing but lame so thatd even out
Mfer you have an among us server tag, you have no fucking right to talk 😭
Talking about that i need to go back into among us
Why
Goodbye pe of the ple
Wat
I want to beat him like I did with nightmare king grimm
It took me 60 hrs to reach Grimm dlc
it's surprising to me how people either really like or really dislike nkg
i just finished all radiants and p5 and allat with 83 hrs
Easiest boss is Grimm,I swear I could beat him in one day,but not even sentinel hornet can die that fast
easier than moss charger?
Well no
Hornet 2nd fight>grim ?
Yes
what stage of the game are y'all on btw
Late,like late late
97%
nice
Just entered grim dlc
nice
i've done just about everything you can do in the game
aside from pantheon bindings
and thus the chat died (no one else has talked in a whole 1 minute)
time to do journal
maybe
Badabababa I'm lovin it
I'll revive chat
Anyone got tips for paintmaster?
It's raining,and the whole electricity just died,the whole neighborhood only survive with candles and flashlight,it felt surreal lmao
sad
Not sad,just surreal
Hi
keep an eye on his telegraphs ig
Hi
No
K just asking
K
How did u get hollow knight
Mobile
How
I play hk mobile
These obbles keep getting me low, then if I do beat them I don't have enough health for the next boss
Tell me bow
I legally can't say it here,or provides link
there's multiple pirate sites and ports alr
Just buy it,it's just 15 dalla
Chat is dead
awesome sculpture
Im on my 2nd playthrough and I just beat nosk and I just realized he’s killed at least 12 vessels Jesus Christ
Guys I need help

