#hk-general
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perchance
wait...
xd
all might?
the Bridge
I love how silksong has been wishlisted by like 5 million people, team cherry bouta make 80 million in a day
silk song waiting room??
π
US when silksong FINALLY releases
Theres coffee over there make yourself at home
9 digits in the bank fr
If silksong does get delayed there will be riots
it's literally the most awaited game ever
I will be rioting
π
wait how can you even get suspended for that
i alr took a 5 hour energy im so locked inb rn
Literally
I check how much 20$ convert to my money, and its so expensive... π’
is there a silk song discord or this is also considered silk song discord?
I kinda hope silksong is gonna break steam
whats ur steam
This is silksong discord
this is the only official one
1600 kyrgyzstani soms is crazy
it's 20 USD right?
Yeah
something like that
In some regions might be lower than 20 since price regionalization
(which is not r/silksong)
1hr 30 mins
What time does Silksong come out?
I genuinely don't know how much longer I can last without skong
I want silksong so bad, I'd kill for it
Probably gonna be β¬20 aswell π π
says 1 hour for me
Probably 1.5h
y
In an hour, 30 mins and 10 seconds
there is technically a fan community for skong specifically (at .gg/silksong) but it's small and obviously unofficial
this is the only one
30 bucks AUD is pretty okay i guess
in 1:30 hours
perchance
Same
Steam cannot count and rounds down
841,500 Iranian rial is crazy
what yall gonna play the game on? controller or keyboard?
keyboard
keyboard
gamer_x05
Steering wheel 
Keyboard for sure
Ill play on my steam deck
keyboard
keyboard fun ngl
tv remote
Steam doesnt do specific numbers only in hours
Controller
bet
primal aspid better not be in this fucking game
im probably gonna buy the xbox ally x
if my math is mathing its like 9600000? dollars? holy
WHAt do you mean
cus he threw them at ppl
Hey everibody !
I saw so much people in the vocals on this special day with so many wait and passion for HK, thank you all !!! it's beautiful !
I played hollow knight with keyboard but wanna try silksong with controller
4.8 milliom times like 20 idk
There will be primordial aphids which shoot 5 projectiles
π π
my credit card ready
oh he also filled one with water and used it as a pencil to write the n word hard r on the floor
king von v2
okay THAT makes sense i thought you just meant they were in his possession
Should I skip school for this
chat it releases in half an hour
lol nah
he buried some
im skipping work for this
tho than again some may not buy it, but a lot will and thats what matters.
still havent been found 3 years later
Same
Hornet going to visit radiance temple
im skipping wo*k too
i translated it im spanish btw
Im currently stuck in p3 at Zote...i should have let him die
That's at least 70 seconds, holy shaw
Indeed
?tag countdown
Silksong releases on <t:1756994403:f>, <t:1756994400:R>. Ready your needles!
Silksong will be 20 right ?
yes
Defeat zote 10 times in dirtmouth first, it's easier then
1 hr 27 minutes
yea
5.2 million x 20 : 100 x 70
(Steam has a 30% cut on all transactions, 25 for 5 million in sales and 20 for 10 million in sales so it'll vary)
π₯
Cool
No 21 they can drink now
I swear it was 1 hr 45 minutes 2 hours ago
bro
π
ok mb
whats 27 + 40
google said 4.8, but thats with a grain of silk. but yeah forgot about the rest u mentioned
I swear Silksong came out 2 minutes ago
SIX SEVENNN
?tag countdown
Please give a tag name.
5$
4.8 is old I believe
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
5.2 is new data
I did something???
Definitely bro give me 20 bucks i'll gift you
oh my days
I just said it randomly
I believe that I won't be able to buy silksong.. EVER
bet!
Yup
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
why did they have to release it at midnight in australia ππ i'm so tired
π π
instead of the age old saying of "take it as a grain of salt" you instead replaced salt with silk, as the game name is "silk"song
SILKSONG SOON

truly a stroke of genius
Silk song in 1 hour 30 min approx and im approx 1 hour 30min from home
Hahahahahha no spiderman for you
Lemme cry lemme cry
The tallest peak will be the most beautiful view
peak..?
card number is 3974 8263 8362
expires 1953 June 3
bing bong?
don't spend it all in one place
I'm suffering so much.
to this day i still feel weird about this grub geezer

I think it's a few days outdated bro
π
I am so weak omgg
bro when he ate the grubs
where can i talk to team cherry?
nah its fine
boomer grub
I FELT FUCKING HURT
Hi miku
Btw does everyone have image perms and gif perms here
immediately i tried killing him
1h 24mβ¦.,,β¦,....,β¦.,.,.,.,.
Bc im very unsure
hello
HATSUNE MIKU
No, fuck miku
I HAVE A POSTER OF YOU
Be nice
what he said
No
Donβt we all
1 hour 23 and 50 seconds
WE want silksong WE want silksong WE want silksong
Replace want with need
On the dot
nah #cancelsilksong
#cancelsong
WE NEED SILKSONG WE NEED SILKSONG WE NEED SILKSONG
real π
Hru
Im already playing it. Not.
Heloo wat you up to
Mods butcher this man
Doing great waiting on SILKSOONGGG and sick, how bout you?
I hate john silksong
Clem Against Silksong!!!
NO SILKSONG
everytime i come online i see new faces
CLEM!
how is hornet alive i thought bugs live less than a year
They shouldβve just shadow dropped silksong
they are special little bugs
I STAND WITH CLEM!!
because she's Silksong
That would ruin it tbh
Clem best grineer. Clem very strong.
where can i talk to team cherry?
this server has 300k members bruh
in your dreams...
Sheβs like half god worm and half spider thing idk
Fr
TETO????
Kahl also good grineer. But clem better.
Lmao
KASANE TETO?
teto indeed
and it didnt used to happen before silksong news 
why does everyone say that?
Banned
we got Miku n Teto
If I don't get silksong day 1 I'm leaving forever without a trace
also most of em are new here anyway
an @ everyone would go so hard rn
i'm sure so much art is happening in the art channel
Birdbrain
+2k members in 7 hours π
Take my money
fr fr
QUIRREL
What is silksong
insane
HATSUNE MIKU!
hollow knight sequel
YAA SHOW MEE
I NEED SILKSONG I NEED IT
focused on hornet
It's a very silky song
BATMAN
Iβd spend $400 if I had to on silksong ong
annnddd there goes the art VC
HATSUNE MIKU?! IN MY HOLLOW KNIGHT DISCORD?!
Istg im gonna learn to design a skin for hornet just to make her an anomalocaris
LMFAOO WAT
I NEED SILKSONGGGGGGGGGGG
incredible gassy
MAYBE I DON'T KNOW WHEN IM SUPPOSED TO STOP
Tf
SILKSONG IS OUT
LINK? IN MY HOLLOW KNI- IN MY SILKSONG DISCORD?
wtf
But tell me,-FUCK
Cap
dont scare me like that im easily believable
Imagine if Silksong is at the same, if not a lower, level as Hollow Knight in terms of difficulty, but the playstyle is completely different, so all these people trying to practice by grinding Hollow Knight are actually just wasting their time, and maybe giving themselves a disadvantage
Cap
Does anyone know the reason Silksong doesn't have a page on the nintendo eshop? Not even in the coming soon section? It's getting me worried about it realising on time on the eshop
GUYS ITS OUT IM BUYING IT
After therapy imma buy silksong
I punch my irl friend
WE
SOMEONE GIVE NE SILKSONG AHHHHHHHHH
Will tiso be making a comeback
It'll be available after release
I will pirate silksong π
Die.
WE will
I am doing my workout rn before silksong comes out
Silksong has too strong of an Aura to flex on Nintendo, it'll be out on switch though
MODS!!!!!
Like you won't do that yourself
Itβs $20 π
PHOENIX WRIGHT?! DR HOUSE?! IN THIS HOLLOW KNIGHT DISCORD?
You can do anything to get $20
get jacked twin
broke ass mf
work me out π π π
20$ it's a lot for some people
anyway
Hornet is shown to have so much different movements compared to the hollow
I'll wait and buy it
SILKSONG TODAY!!!!
Finished my playthrough just in time for silksong!
Also didnt realise there was an achievement for this but Iβm pretty proud since I did it all from memory
I believe all Iβm missing are ||the pantheons and unbreakable charms|| but thatβs a lotta geo farming I canβt be asked to do rn lol
YEAY
Bro knows ball I fw you
U horrible person
I am failing regular push ups twin
Imagine having a job in the big '25
im joking vro
If u are going to pirate at least pirate aaa games
honestly real as fuck
pls forgive me
SOMEONE GIVE ME SILKSONG OR I'M QUITING THE GAME CALLED LIFE WITHOUT SAVING MY FILE
real!
(Jking obv)
pirating makes you a horrible person now? bruh
sounds abt righrt
HOLLOW KNIGHT IN -8 YEARS
GUYS ITS AVAILABLE
How's paying the rent going
: D
Pirating indie games
Thatβs one way to put it
No
push ups r hard
Yeah I know it'll defo be out, just worried it might come out late by a hour or two and such seeing as every other store already has a page for it and the PS store and Xbox store even have countdowns, so idk what on earth Nintendo is doing when they're the ones who announced it's coming 2025
pirating indie games does
Best thing
yoo another spanish speaker user
Go wild with AAA piracy I don't care
Ragebait used to be believable
Is not a bait
imo there's still a lot of morally gray things to discuss about indie game piracy
I FUCKING NEED SILKSONG I DON'T WANT IT
Yeah, Spanish community on peak
yeah
AAA games are pirating you if you actually pay for them
Lmao
my main lang is not spanish tho 
I hate this
I read that with goku black roses voice. it made it even better\
Visceral reaction
AAA games are a scam
I have an deepheld belief aaa games should pay you to pirate games
delicacies
crunchy if u deepfry them
I gotta lock in and learn spanish i need to bond w my girl's family
ever so rarely they can be good
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
Iβm skipping school for Silksong
see detroit become human
Theft is a tool to deny greedy soulless corporations their fuel
When you steal from small, honest businesses, all you're doing is making it harder for them to stay afloat in this society
Who recorded me
Agreed
I just did that too lol, you're right
THIS is the protagonist of your MOST AWAITED video game? right...
iβm skonging out my absolute mind rn
1 hour
LMAOO π π
Me muhahahahahahahah
good AAA games are still a scam, I'm not paying 100 dollars for GTA 6 just because its realistic
oh
27 minutes skong is out
And 16 minutes and 30 seconds on the dot
I won't be getting silksong, it's time for death
I just slightly injured myself too
All worth it for silksong
me when i spread misinformation
ermmm
Silksong Leak ! There is Hornet from Hollow Knight on silksong !
the fuck you mean all the vc's are full
pain is temporary
shaw is eternal
1 hour and 1 year, it's supposed to be next September
10 seconds now
16 min till hour till skong
The game releases at 7:00 here
It's 6:44
I dunno man I'd pay full price for detroit become human, it's an amazing game
Ngl yall could just take my dad's approach
Pirate first, then if you find out its worth the money and feel the creators deserve it, buy officially
I tried sleeping till like 9 am but woke up at 4 am πππ so now I'm FORCED to wait
shaw

You're saying my trusted alarm lied to me π
Yeah but would you pay 150 dollars for metal gear
yeah i knew this server would be going crazy
shawt up
silk song is so close
i usually do that but team cherry is 3 ppl
If I don't hear hornet shaw-ing every time press the attack button, I'm getting a refund
lol
that time wont be enough to revive quirrel
GUYS
U should see #sk-discussion
I quit life
you're generalizing too much
i wont go THAT far but id be pretty chuffed
I CANT WAIT
I passed out sometime yesterday. when i wanted to continue on my mods for 3ds. i love passing out.
SILKSONG TODAY
1 hour 15 for me π
1 hour left
shaw!
bros thats intelligible what the heck
is that that one anime with the deer thats like]
a god
shaw
lost access to steel soul after resetting my pc how can i get it back?
u cant
Detroit is an older game so has a better price - the new metal gear is insanely good but costs alot and thats happening with everything
i have no clue i just like the gif π₯β€οΈ
Snowgrave more like shawgrave
knight or hornet who is your favorite?
Bro eeeeppp
valid
dung defender doma doma doma
You cant play silksong without proper eep
I did for like 6 hours lmao πππ
real twin
Everything will be pirated
I woke up too early
Where is that hand coming from
Oh yes
russian mentality
why did shaqilo oneil appear when i searched for shaw
aw man
I slept at like 9 pm, woke up ar 4 am
It will be like wasting it ikr
i shoudl really go to bed
IKR
I will pirate YOU
been waiting for Silksong
cursed third hand
Good ass sleep
yes bro
@dusty eagle is quirrel alive
No, you dont
mary poppins ahh
ITS OUT
so real
shaw
STO
was he ever dead?
I've been cursed to not get silksong day 1
giving me heart attacks
burger king foot lettuce
Lafenuvenido
i slept for 2 hours π
not when I have to wait 6 hours for Silksong instead of 2
Finally my timers are aligned
why does hornet wear fatass teto dress? is she stupid?
Can we get a SHAW in the chat pls?
SHAW
shaw
Y is your heart attacking you
SHAW
SHAW!!
SHAW
TOGETHER WE SHAW!!!!!
cus i have too much determination
EDIROO
y she turning into a floating suction cup?
SHAWWWW
SILKSONG TODAY
SHAWWW
together...we are SILKSONG ahh
SILKSONG!!!
are we not Silksong?
HOLLOW KNIGHT IS PLAYABLE RN
WE are silksong twin
maybe the real silksong, was the friends we made along the way
NO WAY?!
join vc 1
Silking my needle untill I song
Finally
No way really?
Wtf I didn't know
hey
hollow knight is NOT l
Okay fiiine
i would deadass spend $500 on it
Im buying the game twice idec
: D
I'm buying Silksong on ALL my devices
for WHAT purpose
maybe the real song is the silk we made along the way?
why the FUCK canβt i embed
i should spend more and just give them away
true
Cuz the deserve it + why not
I HAVE SILKSONG IN MY CART
hello im new
oh right mb
Silk inside of us
freaky ahh
hello new im vineshroomie
IM BOUT TO BUY IT
gimme gimme gimme π
hello vineshroomie
Nuh uh
yuh uh
nuh uh
IS SILKSONG RELEASED
they not like silk
they not like silk
(The problem is i spent all my money and only have enough for 1 copy)
fair tbh
silksong on that steam yo π₯±π₯±π₯±
Be happy you get it an hour earlier than me
1:09 someone set up a bot to automate this count down
Idk
count9ng down to silk song
GUYS SILKSONG IS IN MY CART
omg bruh
its 6 pm here
?tag countdown
Silksong releases on <t:1756994403:f>, <t:1756994400:R>. Ready your needles!
I kinda spent it all on food flowers coffee for this month and shitt
I lost my pen. Ill brb, keep yapping guys! 
69 minutes until silksong
π
oh my god
2 minutes later...
67!!!!
oh, cool
Who is Hollow Knight's most hated enemy?
AN HOUR
1 HOUR 20 MINUTES LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND ENBIES ARE WE READY
omg what the mods did to the general voice channel
Dang it
1 HOUR LEFT GUYS
filled knight
67 minutes and 42 seconds
6 77777777
ello people
SIX SEVEENNNN
Supp
SILK SEVEN!!!?
hi
best 10$ i ever spent
im praying that i would afford it
LMAO
silk seven?
SILKSONG IS COMING
Only 10?
Hello homosexuals

SILK SEVEN!!!!!!!!
IN 1 HOUR
they put a minute slow mode on the ss general lol
actually its 10.49$
Hey
20 dollars USD
imma be the first person to buy ts
R/SILKSONG REFUSES TO LOAD FOR ME LMAO
MY LORD IM GOING TO FIGHT THE SUNNNNN
10.49 in ukraine:/
What currency do you have bro π
AINT NO WAY HOW
LMAOOO
then do it bru nobody stopping you
not I willl
When the name is so fire you just have to π₯ react
uah my friend:/
omg hi clem
I cant play silksong
Nox.
Play for me
π π
STEAM GAVE ME EARLY ACCESS
yes Miku π
Too weakπ
thank you for your sacrifice
I dont deserve silksong
GUYS
SILKSONG. THE GODS ARE GIVING US THE BLESSING
guys should i beat hollow knight first of all? or just playin silksong
NO
I need silksong......
OMG
silksong cares not for power
its for ALL
you too.. can play the silksong
wait didnt they say it was delayed, or was it fake>?
yes clem π
You gotta jitterclick it :)
So the world is yours but you cant silk all over your song?
haha caught in silkpost
Miku who can't silk
Steam still has the countdown
So uh how much time left?
WHY ISN'T IT OUT YET?!?!!?!
approx 1 hour
I thought it was now
I can't π«‘
6 or 7 minutes
30 AS is only 16,79 euros π
im silking my song
6-7 hours
ππ
YESS
π
SIX SEVENNNN
genuinely sad
1 hour 5 minutes
Cringe
silking my slung
SILK SEVEN
ITS COMINGGGG
my song so silked
4 mins and 20 seconds
ITS COMING
U guys sure? Itβs one more hour?
good news chat they'll send me an email. i might miss it otherwise.
Wait so is it gonna be on the switch or just switch 2?
GRIFFITHHHHH
Enjoy it for me π«
js look at steam dawg π
:3
Says griffith
selksang todauy
?tag countdown
i will twin
Silksong releases on <t:1756994403:f>, <t:1756994400:R>. Ready your needles!
Ye
steam gonna be molest within in a hour
Switch 1 & Switch 2
im gonna murder youy
emails are usually so late smh
why are all the silktards here
Yay thanks :D
Silking my needle till i song
And Iβm gonna teach you English
ONLY 1 HOURRR
Have fun with it my boy
yes pls
where else would we be
i thought it was in 4 mins ngl
go back to the dungeon where you came from
my needle is standing
Slowmode too high
I really thought it was 4;00
When will it come out on game pass
I WILL SPEEDRUN EVERYTHING AND SPOIL IT FOR EVERYONE
Big steam servers boom in 5 mins
ofc uncle
theres gonna be a 1 minute slow mode here too
An hour 3 minutes 20 secs
I have foundeth my pen!
what have i done
i will cry
pls dont
theres so many people in vc lmao
In 1 hour...
bug time
Its full I think π
HORNET NOOO!!!
I genuinely hope steam will crash
In 5 mins
incredible work sire! truly a testament to your determination
the fact that I'm literally a uncle makes it so much better π
nah i just got in
Guys as i said before . This morning , i punched my irl friend cause he make me drink a coffee ...AND IT DIDINT HAVE CONSERED MILK !!!! Im 16 but im addicted to coffee ( online sanjiarru here i come )
sure thing nephew
1 hour and 3 mins left
YAYYY
Hornyet
Just mute the server
Hello peeps
wait... fnaf?
Woah, Miku's here
Hi
NO
I have only 1-3 sets left
its jokes
π
WE'RE TRAPPED
ok cya
Coffee with a lot of consered milk ! Yay
67 showers till silksong
2 minutes away
good morning (2am release here and I got classes today)
Not 2 mins?
1 hour 2 mins
Miku locked in
The time of reckoning is nigh
Omg, where u from
@haughty kelp made this for you πππ
it releases in 1 hour and 2 mins
oo ee oo
CAN WE GET A SHAW IN CHAT
TEKIRO SEKIRO
im thinking Miku
shaw
SHAW
SHAW!
I'm very heart broken
shaw?
Guys Iβm boutta spoil the entire plot:
Hornet is in the game.
south pacific
anyone able to pre install?
GARANA
Bruh
SILKSONG
guys, did you know theres a hornet sound in every shawn?
Im reporting you π
we ALL are moving here
Haha
we pray
SHAWW the sheep
ONE HOUR
Nephew I will get my revenge and become the freaky uncle
EVERY SINGLE MAN IN CHAT
RAAHHHHHH
no uncle
IT IS DONEEE
Proof?
YEAHHH
ONE HOUR GIVE IT UP FOR ONE HOUR
YEAHHHHH
Ello astra hyd
Im gonna tremble buying ts
Silksgong will be on xbox one right?
I just know π€·ββοΈ
jacked miku is canon lol
SWEET MOTHER OF VOIDHEART ITS ONLY ONE HOUR LEFT
Fake, no way they were gonna postpone it
Yay
freaky uncle is very very bad
Hellooo, nothing much waiting for silksong that I can't even get lol, wbu?
Itβs almost here
nom
silky sung
ONE HOUR
Yeah
Proof?
"Trust me, bro"
did you guys know that hornet will be able to talk
I feel like silking song
I know your little games
OMGAAA
ONE HOUR EVERYBODY!!!
59 minutes and 30 seconds 
YEAH
and 12 dollars for the soundtrack is so good
WHAT THE FUCK MY DISCORD CLIENT LAGS CUZ OF YOU ALL
Same for me lol
YEAH
silk for us Miku π₯Ίπ₯Ίπ₯Ί
SHUT FUDUPPPPPPPPPP
Sad life lol
where is my silksong π₯
NO WAYYY, DONT BEAT ME TO IT, i want to buy the game first

SHAW!!!
less than 1 hour to go
I didnt even finish the HK and i can get silksong
silk song trust
whoa
SILKSOhn
ts is cool
hi does anyone know if silksong will have a physical release for ps4??
Sending this and ignoring my shaw in chat π
thanks for sharing
The final boss render has been LEAKED, DM me to see it

no Silksong is cancelled
Maybe it's cuz there's something hiding in your WiFi that's slowing it down
could it be a
shh
wait...
blue tie
shaw
π π yes
say that again...
is it out yet?
blue hair
huh
nuh uh, YOUR CANCELD!
SHAWWWW
RIP SILKSONG CANCELED
SHAWW
me who only got into hollow knight a month ago:
GIT GUD
Less than an hour
NO WAY THEY CANCELED SILKSONG
every channel is fucked for the next day mods are gonna be playing silksong π
i played it first in 2020
(I lied)
Why cant i predownload the game
died to hornet 5 times and quit
i talked to santa he said no silksong for you
then came back a year later
Pov u spreading disinformation
i wish.
bro hollowknight is genuinely one of the shittiest games how do people even play this
1 hour
cus then people would find a way to open it and leak it early
-1/10 ragebait
i though it came out at 11pm for us aussies?
We literally had mod apps for this exact reason you are NOT going to make this some anarchy
Agreed 100%
WHERE IS IT.
real question though, how do people play it
I am on console, no one would be able to do that
@dusty eagle you use pfp about quirrel ?!
they sit down, open the game and play
what if the game got delayed again?
"L+shaw" π
I AM A SILKSONGER, I AM A SILKSONGER, I AM A SILKSONGER, I AM A SILKSONGER, I AM A SILKSONGER, I AM A SILKSONGER, I AM A SILKSONGER, I AM A SILKSONGER
did u get funds unc?
sept 4 2026
so how do people play this shit game???????? theres nothing enjoyable in it
sadly not π
Is it out my Xbox app isn't working
what is the exact time silksong releases?
consoles are hackable so it probably could happen, I know Mario Wonder got leaked like a week early, so did Mario 3D world
SILK SEVENNN
ull get it eventually unc
.
i can finally get ores
Will silksong come to pc xbox gamepass or only xbox console gamepass
yo chat I got silksong early π₯
π
Curse you team cherry, release it at 12 am australian time
nah 5 years of delay
Hornet's shaw would like to disagree
Not any time soon though
in under an hour
heh I'm a computer nerd
guess you can say I'm a
silksong
pc gamepass too
: (
Earlier consoles were hackable right
Open it lil bro
It hasnt happened in 10 years
still are
yeah
You mean like jailbreaks?
i never played the game but i know how to judge games based on aesthetics, i dont get how people play that shit game
this voice channel is so loud
what time will silksong release??????????
my friend has a hacked nintendo DS
IS TODAY
money
69 hours
omg is today my friends
Im gonna silk my song
What time does silksong release not what day?
knight is better than hornet
Silksong is 20$ but i dont have money >M< ugh how can a 16 y.o child can earn money ?!!!
In an hour
Fuck and I don't have gamepass
they r both good
yo how????
9
Roblox player
J*B
silksong will be the first game to sell 67 copies
ty
oh yeah by the way if I try and open it it says I don't own the game
I have it preisntalled too on my Xbox lil bro pipe down
predownload on ps5 i assume? yeah no, it wont let you play until its actually out.
I have game pass but i will be buying it on ps5 too
grow a garden is so peak
no one knows how is gamepass making money xd
One last time 
Grow good game taste
yea but as a protagonist knight is better................
next year fo shaw
I cant wait
you have gamepass AND a PS5??? how rich are you ππ
ragebait worked
But in my country , only 18+ people can have a j*b !!!
: D
cant wait for yuri song in one hour
Shaw
@frigid sleet can I dm you?
You rich bastards I have to wait for like 2years
16+ for me
true actually
