hk-general

[scenic frost]

If you use ALL 16 spirit emblems then when you die (or rest at idol) you'll have 9

Storage basically just automatically refills your emblems until you run out of them in storage

I personally would just buy shitloads of spirit emblems whenever I had a lot of sen so that I could just stockpile them and not worry about it for a while

[molten drum]

Ok

[molten drum]

How many can i keep in the storage ?

[scenic frost]

Infinite

[astral stag]

nah nobody should fw ddlc

jk its good

[plucky helm]

I was about to write a whole essay

[astral stag]

hop on my stream rn

[west mantle]

Is this Doki Doki Litterature Club

[plucky helm]

Yes

[west mantle]

Thanks griffith

[plucky helm]

https://tenor.com/view/femto-gif-16725783015443727800

[astral stag]

dude its always abs rads balls

[molten drum]

Fw ddlc ?

[astral stag]

WHO JUST PINGED ME

overrated

[molten drum]

?

[astral stag]

ddlc

its mid ngl

[plucky helm]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-sounded-like-tuco-from-breaking-bad-tuco-get-out-tuco-breaking-bad-gus1897-tuco-car-meet-gif-1251097212852856054

[molten drum]

Nice
Do you know where can i farm fish scales ?

[astral stag]

dont ping im doing abs rad radiant nail only

[scenic frost]

No I don'f

Soery

[molten drum]

Np

[plucky helm]

Don’t think you can I think the fish only spawn once when they die they die

[astral stag]

omds

[plucky helm]

Most of them are in fountain head palace tho

[molten drum]

Aww man
I wanted to buy that mask thing

[plucky helm]

I could be wrong tho haven’t played sekiro in a while

[molten drum]

Nah you're right
I haven't seen them too

[plucky helm]

Damn anyway sekiro isn’t that long of a game if you know what your doing

[astral stag]

i just died to air i love this game

im going back to siege lmao

[plucky helm]

Bro don’t punish yourself even more 😭

[astral stag]

😭

im crazy at siege tho

literally bronze

[plucky helm]

I’m shit

Don’t know how people can tell someone’s there by a small pixel

[brave blaze]

for real

[graceful grove]

Both suck

[brave blaze]

damn, i love both

[west mantle]

I hate both

[brave blaze]

i always use both and that charm that increase attack speed

[west mantle]

You use both at the same time? Ewww

[pulsar night]

does it stack??

[brave blaze]

the fuck, i'm the only guy who use these charms?

[brave blaze]

yeah

[pulsar night]

damn

[brave blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-rainy-spongebob-cafe-cup-of-coffee-gif-975216890429859696

[pulsar night]

is ur fav charm the aspid mother one?? 💀

[west mantle]

Glowing womb? Nah it sucks

Why you say that

[wary vale]

ranged charms overrated imo

[pulsar night]

cant do my mark of pride and long nail like that

[wary vale]

play without them and you'll have room for other charms

[west mantle]

They suck ass wdym

They take up space in your charm build

And they dont give you abything useful

[pulsar night]

imo its worth it tho

esp for fast bosses

[wary vale]

ranged charms are useful but you can already accomplish everything with default nail length

[graceful grove]

Ranged charms are for filthy casuals

[west mantle]

Parry this you filthy casual

[graceful grove]

:parry:

[wary vale]

left ear volition right ear half light 2x speed

[brave blaze]

ion use spells so i use just nail charms and these that increase my nail size help me

[wary vale]

understandable

[west mantle]

Have you beaten a single pantheon

[graceful grove]

“ion use spells” thats your first issue

[wary vale]

but imo you should be using spells otherwise youre just hindering yourself for no reason from these 3 great options that give you infinite horizontal range, free invincibility iframes and great upwards damage

[brave blaze]

ion like to use

[brave blaze]

4

[pulsar night]

i use soul eater plus shaman and longnail

[graceful grove]

you have 3 high damage attacks

And you just

[wary vale]

based soul eater pilled user

[west mantle]

4 pantheons without spells?

[graceful grove]

Dont use it

[brave blaze]

but i used spells in pure vessel

[brave blaze]

not exactly, i used against the pure vessel

[wary vale]

tbf i can see why people may see soul shade as redundant but its still high damage with infinite horizontal range

also more damage if it, say, double hits or triple hits

[brave blaze]

nah, it's boring

[west mantle]

Does quadrahit shadesoul deal more damage than shriek

[brave blaze]

turn the game easily

[wary vale]

how much damage does shaman shade soul deal i completely forgot

!wiki shaman stone

[hidden anvil]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Shaman_Stone

[wary vale]

oh 40

[west mantle]

So 160 damage

[wary vale]

160 damage

abyss shriek deals total 120 damage

a triple hit already causes as much damage lmao

[brave blaze]

i hate shaman stone, it's so fucking strong

[west mantle]

So triple hit is like a shriek

[wary vale]

yakuza like a shriek

[wary vale]

yeah shaking my head

[brisk oracle]

E

[graceful grove]

you think the game is too easy? Do radhog

[pastel oracle]

2018 was 6 years ago buddy

[west mantle]

2018 was 3 gorbillion years ago buddy, grow up 👽

[brisk oracle]

🗿

[dapper kayak]

https://forms.gle/R5cPRVR1oxRQgVuY8 I've made this form for a project I'm working on related to the Hollow Knight Charm System. I'd appreciate if you took out some time to answer the questions given. Thank you.

[west mantle]

This feels like a virus ngl

[graceful grove]

Turn off requires email

[dapper kayak]

it should be off

[graceful grove]

who has that in a google form

well uh

It isnt

[dapper kayak]

https://forms.gle/67vZ9Ai278spMWNXA

[obtuse pasture]

%91

[dapper kayak]

does it work now?

[undone chasm]

The name, photo and email address associated with your Google account will be recorded when you upload files and submit this form

Is what it says

[heavy oxide]

Send a screenshot

[dapper kayak]

i do not know how to change that ive unchecked everything requiring email input

[jovial hull]

this is why i've switched email to my random alt email from a year and a half ago

[heavy oxide]

Mm

[undone chasm]

Not sure what you wanted to gain from it being dutch

[heavy oxide]

Screenshot of the settings page?

[dapper kayak]

there are image questions but you dont need to upload images they arent compulsory. the form doesnt require your email if you just answer the questions

[heavy oxide]

Hm

Odd

[dapper kayak]

im not trying to scam people here guys its a real form 😭

[heavy oxide]

Make sure the settings are saved

[dapper kayak]

they are

[heavy oxide]

And if it still shows try refreshing the page a few times

[dapper kayak]

no i know what the issue is

[heavy oxide]

Go on

[dapper kayak]

there are some image questions which require sending a drive link, for which it collects email. however these questions arent compulsory. so it doesnt collect ur email unless you choose to upload an image

the image questions arent compulsory (no red asterisk)

[west mantle]

Ok i finished it

[west mantle]

Is this netherlands person

[undone chasm]

I am netherlands yes

[west mantle]

Noway

[brave blaze]

I hate zote he just stole bretta well she is really annoyed of him

[west mantle]

If you defeat Zote 10 times you get her back

[brave blaze]

Okay I beat him 3-4 times already so

How do I beat the next phase

[west mantle]

Killing him

[quick sparrow]

Will silksong come out before humans visit the moon again

[west mantle]

Humans visit the moon constantly tho

[brisk oracle]

whats a human???

[west mantle]

Like bugs iirc

[pseudo quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143403393239498818/1197820568402141245/image0.gif

[iron mirage]

chatroom i made a filet mignon for the first time today how does it look

[pseudo quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-british-food-mods-low-tier-god-gif-9108075214677777615

[brisk oracle]

thats actually insane

beautiful crust

[iron mirage]

it turned out a little overcooked on the inside, i think i overshot the mark by a little bit, but its still pink and they're right about filet mignon, its so tender

[brisk oracle]

still looks great

[iron mirage]

Thank you

[brisk oracle]

W

[ashen wadi]

<@&283547423706447872> ig

ha ha let's replace the slur with a different word

so funny

[valid falcon]

pain

[primal robin]

la criatura

[brave blaze]

join hk offtopic
talking about slurs
every time

[brisk oracle]

you'll get used to it

[glass loom]

"used to it"

[midnight oasis]

Strange how this channel is awful but off-topic is peak

HK has the reverse midas touch

[astral stag]

its all in the quick peeks my friend

GO WHEREVER THE THE WIND CARRIES YOU FRIEND 🔥

[brave jacinth]

Hello everyone!

[brisk oracle]

hello

[brave jacinth]

Might I interest you in a quiz?

[astral stag]

sure

[astral stag]

dude wheres the QUIZ

[brave jacinth]

QUESTION 1: how much essence is needed to 112% the game

[astral stag]

2400 right

[brave jacinth]

Correct!

[astral stag]

im him

[brave jacinth]

Question 2: what is the name of the dream form false knight?

[midnight oasis]

Failed Champion

[astral stag]

fuck

[brave jacinth]

CORRECT!

[astral stag]

didnt type fast enough

[astral stag]

HOLD ON

ive already seen the #2 hk hater

and its not oyu

[brave jacinth]

Question 3: what Hornet line is known as a meme?

[astral stag]

shaw

[brave jacinth]

Incorrect

[astral stag]

bruh

[delicate badge]

Git gud?

[brave jacinth]

CORRECT!

[delicate badge]

:D

[astral stag]

THATS NOT EVEN A REAL LINE

[midnight oasis]

and it is...

[scenic frost]

Literally several hornet lines are memes

[astral stag]

real

[brave jacinth]

True

[astral stag]

theres another #2 hk hater

hes got like a yellow pfp

and hes a guy

[midnight oasis]

who are they because they are probably #3

[scenic frost]

I am the #1 hollow knight hater

[brave jacinth]

Question 4: what is the main character referred to by Hornet?

[astral stag]

im the number 0

[midnight oasis]

Are you sure that wasn't just me

[astral stag]

idk

[scenic frost]

Little Ghost

[astral stag]

pale thing i dont remmeber#

[brave jacinth]

Correct!

[astral stag]

bro hes hacking

[brave jacinth]

This guy

[scenic frost]

❌

[astral stag]

next

[scenic frost]

?

[astral stag]

sogma

asimg

sigma

[brave jacinth]

Final question! What is the other name of the Dung Defender?

[astral stag]

ogrim

[brave jacinth]

CORRECT!

[astral stag]

RAGHHH

[scenic frost]

Fuck I left the channel for three seconds

[astral stag]

GET IN

2 points

that means i won

[scenic frost]

Hey chat we should play 20 questions

Been a while

[astral stag]

whats 20 qs

[brave jacinth]

Bonus question! What happens when you leave zote in the fly!

[scenic frost]

He dies

[astral stag]

in the fly?

oh mb

[brave jacinth]

Correct!

[astral stag]

yeah his skull is the only thing left

[brave jacinth]

You can dunk it

[astral stag]

tiebreaker

[scenic frost]

Someone thinks of something in hk, and other people are allowed to ask 20 questions to figure out what it is

[astral stag]

oh bet

[brave jacinth]

Bet!

[scenic frost]

Someone think of something

[astral stag]

i will

can it be anything

anyon

[scenic frost]

In hollow knight yes

[astral stag]

anyone*

ok bet

uhhhhhhhhhhh

yep i have it

[scenic frost]

Is it an npc?

[astral stag]

no

[scenic frost]

Is it an item?

[astral stag]

19 Left

[astral stag]

yes

18

[brave jacinth]

Is it used to travel

[astral stag]

no

17

[midnight oasis]

Is it an ability

[scenic frost]

Is it a collectible, as in, you find multiple all across hallownest

[astral stag]

technically more so no

16

[astral stag]

yes 15

[brave jacinth]

Geo?

[scenic frost]

Is it a spell?

[astral stag]

no

14

[astral stag]

no 13

[scenic frost]

Is it lifeblood?

[astral stag]

no 12

[scenic frost]

Man I'm running out of ideas

[brave jacinth]

Do you get it from a boss?

[astral stag]

along the lines of an ability

work on that

[scenic frost]

It's an item that is a collectible and is an ability

[astral stag]

yes you do 11

[scenic frost]

What the fuck could that be

[astral stag]

technically, kinda no 10

halfway there

[scenic frost]

That wasn'r a question

[astral stag]

ok 11

[scenic frost]

I was recapping what we already know

[brave jacinth]

Does it unlock something

[astral stag]

YES 10

[scenic frost]

What?

[astral stag]

a question is right

and it does unlock something

10 left

[scenic frost]

????

[midnight oasis]

Is it the City Crest

[astral stag]

no 9

getting warmer people

[scenic frost]

Is it the tram card? Or tram ticket? Whatever its called

[brave blaze]

Dyno bot died

[astral stag]

no 8

[astral stag]

incorrect

still 8 i wont count that

[brave jacinth]

Is it the city crest?

[brave blaze]

No its a fact

[astral stag]

already said

still 8

[brave blaze]

Os it joe?

[astral stag]

no 7

[brave jacinth]

Is it a charm?

[astral stag]

no 6

i am about to win this

ask more broad questions cmon

[brave blaze]

Gruz mother

[astral stag]

not counting that

[brave blaze]

Why

[astral stag]

because

we already know its an item and collectible

[brave blaze]

Its correct?

Ahh

[scenic frost]

And ability

I guess

[brave blaze]

Pale ore

[astral stag]

technicallly

[astral stag]

HOW

HOW

[scenic frost]

??

[astral stag]

HE WON

[brave blaze]

I just guessed

[astral stag]

WTF

[brave jacinth]

LES GOOO

[astral stag]

ITS PALE ORE

[scenic frost]

Mf pale ore is NOT an ability

[brave jacinth]

WE GOT IT!

[astral stag]

ok whos next

[brave blaze]

[astral stag]

I SAID TECHNICALLY

[brave jacinth]

Me

[astral stag]

aight

[scenic frost]

Yeah, it's NOT

[astral stag]

nyxmore is next

[astral stag]

TECHNICALLY

[scenic frost]

There's no way you can twist pale ore into being an ability

[scenic frost]

No, not technically

[astral stag]

the nail is technically

[scenic frost]

It's just not

[brave jacinth]

Anyways… start

[brave blaze]

Yea you can its nail upgrade

[astral stag]

ok

[scenic frost]

Yeah, the nail ISN'T pale ore

[astral stag]

is it an npc

[scenic frost]

Pale ore is not an ability

[brave jacinth]

Nope

19

[astral stag]

is it smth held in the inventory

[brave jacinth]

Yes until later

18

[brave blaze]

Is it a charm

[astral stag]

KINGSOUL

[brave jacinth]

Nope

Nope

[astral stag]

shit

[brave jacinth]

16

[astral stag]

DELICATE FLOWER

[brave jacinth]

X nope

15

[astral stag]

bruh

held in the inventory until later hmmm

[brave blaze]

Kings brand?

[brave jacinth]

Nope

14

[astral stag]

that stays

IS IT A SPELL

[brave jacinth]

Nope

[dry patrol]

key

[brave jacinth]

Yes as in category

12

[astral stag]

delicae key

[brave jacinth]

Nope

11

[astral stag]

simple

[brave blaze]

Love tower key

[brave jacinth]

Nope 10

Halfway there

[astral stag]

which is it

neither??

[brave jacinth]

Answer more

[astral stag]

theres no other keys tho

[brave blaze]

Rhe key to my heart?

[brave jacinth]

Nope

[astral stag]

💀

[brave jacinth]

9

[brave blaze]

Kings brand

[astral stag]

the soul guy key?

for shade soul

[brave jacinth]

Nope but not that

And no

7

[astral stag]

bruh

elegant

[brave blaze]

That key you need for the city of tears

[brave jacinth]

Correct!

It’s called city crest

[brave blaze]

Yah

[astral stag]

thats the thing

thats not a key

[brave blaze]

It is

[astral stag]

thats a crest bruh

[brave jacinth]

I said in category

[astral stag]

istg

whos next

[brave blaze]

Im next

[astral stag]

bet

[brave jacinth]

Is he important to the plot?

[brave blaze]

No

[brave jacinth]

Is it a charm?

[brave blaze]

No

19

18

[brave jacinth]

Is it a character

[brave blaze]

No

17

[astral stag]

is it a charm

[brave blaze]

No already said 17

[midnight oasis]

Is it an enemy

[astral stag]

aigt

[brave blaze]

Yes

16

[brave jacinth]

Does it react when it dies?

[astral stag]

is it the spewers from forgotten cross

[brave blaze]

No15

[brave blaze]

How do you mean?

[astral stag]

worth a shot

[astral stag]

like explodes or anything

[brave blaze]

No

hint its a boss 14

[brave jacinth]

Does it become friendly?

[astral stag]

does it appear in more than one region more than once?

[brave blaze]

No

[brave blaze]

No 12

Well godhome

[astral stag]

MAWLEK

[brave jacinth]

Sisters of battle?

[brave blaze]

No

[brave blaze]

No

10

Halfway through

[brave jacinth]

Zote

[brave blaze]

No

[astral stag]

does it appear in greenpath

[brave blaze]

Yes

8

[astral stag]

hornet

[brave blaze]

No

7

[fathom wren]

I'm making that "sly as fox" trend with hk but I don't know who to put anymore:

As sly as a fox, (distant villagers)
as strong as an ox (dung defender)
As fast as a hare, (quirrel)
as brave as a bear (cloth)
As free as a bird, as neat as a word (pale lurker)
As quiet as a mouse, (
as big as a house (grimm)

As mean as a wolf, as sharp as a tooth (hunter)
As deep as a bite, (midwife)
as dark as the night (shade)
As sweet as a song, (marissa)
as right as a wrong (pale king)
As long as a road, (monomon)
as ugly as a toad (leg eater)
As pretty as a picture hanging from a fixture (white lady)
Strong like a family, strong as I wanna be (massive moss charger)
Bright as day, as light as play (radiance)
As hard as nails, (nail smith)
as grand as a whale (sly)

As warm as the sun, (radiance)
as silly as fun (grub)
As cool as a tree, as scary as the sea (isma)
As hot as fire, (
cold as ice (god seeker)
Sweet as sugar and everything nice
As old as time, (elder bug)
as straight as a line (
As royal as a queen, (queen vespa)
as buzzed as a bee (hive knight)
As stealth as a tiger, (hive soldier)
smooth as a glider (hive guardian)
Pure as a melody, pure as I wanna be (hiveling)

[astral stag]

zote

[brave jacinth]

MASSIVE MOSS CHARGER!

[astral stag]

bruh

hes right

[brave blaze]

Still no and no6

[brave jacinth]

Dammit

[fathom wren]

Hunter?

[brave blaze]

No its a boss 5

Its second in godhome after you enter

[brave jacinth]

Sheo?

[fathom wren]

Vengefly King

[brave blaze]

The coölection

[astral stag]

the guy

[brave blaze]

Correct we have a winner!!!

[astral stag]

not cool

[brave jacinth]

Yoooo!

[fathom wren]

Yay! What do I win?

[brave blaze]

Well gtg bye

[astral stag]

ima restart my pc siege isnt running

[brave jacinth]

Bye also

[brave blaze]

Respect and the Information a bot died

[astral stag]

bye also also

[fathom wren]

.

[dull oracle]

eww long nail

[midnight oasis]

eww charms

[dull oracle]

TRUE

[wheat field]

Ew hollow knight

[formal moth]

Great accomplishment

Now go beat nkg /j

[dull oracle]

How about this

I WILL

[formal moth]

Oh yeah lmao

hate to say this but

sharp shadow

deep focus 💀

fr goated

all top runners use those charms

wayward compass peak fr

Ye

5 minute time save

frfr

and its also banned in any% amg too

its just to op

even goddam anyrad 3.0

FR

i can beat nkg with just wayward compass

i play on switch

and broke

I do have a gaming pc

just too broke to afford hk on pc

How the hell did u find me

Im running 4 it

the FBI will never catch me if i ship myself inside of a box to Georgia

perfect nail

FRFR

Spell users be crying over their crappy 3 dps

[dull oracle]

[midnight oasis]

Its Hollow Knight it doesn't matter what build you'll go for

You still won't have fun

[paper vapor]

TRUE

[dull oracle]

REAL

[paper vapor]

it’s calling to u

[opal prawn]

a game that you should absolutely play

[midnight oasis]

Exploration/Mystery game

If you're into that genre I'd recommend playing it

[opal prawn]

An important rule of this game is the least you know about it, the better the experience

[formal moth]

wtf is this

[midnight oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

[formal moth]

Video games in a fucking nutshell:

[midnight oasis]

Well there are certain video games that aren't too impacted by spoilers

Outer Wilds is like, the game thats most affected by spoilers though

[opal prawn]

Some games are replayable, this one does not care about that, it's a one time experience and it's a masterpiece

[formal moth]

unless ur a speedrunner

[opal prawn]

Can't argue against that

[dull oracle]

All games are technically replayable but it just wont be as enjoyable as the first time

[formal moth]

This

[midnight oasis]

There's only one good game to speedrun and its Slime Rancher

[formal moth]

im not even gonna

[brisk oracle]

speedrunning Cory in the House is fun too

[formal moth]

frfr

[scenic frost]

Yeah, especially with all the upgrades

It's kinda lame to go back after your first playthrough and be so limited in movement

[modern falcon]

Elder high five

[waxen valve]

Where Silksong

[young nimbus]

gonna try radiant absrad nail only 🔥

wayward compass going to carry

[tropic cedar]

Wayward compass the strongest charm in the game 🔥

[molten fable]

Lol

Ligit start of the game best charm ever for new players

[soft hornet]

Bruh hollow knight is one of my favorite games to replay

[midnight oasis]

They aren't talking about Hollow Knight

[junior ocean]

OW

[opal prawn]

I was not talking about hk there

[junior ocean]

omg wangha

[opal prawn]

Same for you, that was about outer wilds

[opal prawn]

[ashen wadi]

imagine if you could replay outer wilds 😔

though that would require complete amnesia

[scenic frost]

Oh I thought you were talking about hk

[midnight oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/unsee-very-disturbing-disturbing-forget-i-would-like-to-forget-seeing-this-gif-17564395

[ashen wadi]

real

worth

[elfin jacinth]

anyone wanna watch shrek 2 in general 3?

[ashen wadi]

that is very much against tos

[bronze acorn]

Yes

[brave blaze]

its against tos
seriously who cares theres no moral issue

[ashen wadi]

it's a discord server

a partnered one even

if you want to dispute server policy use modmail, if you want to dispute discord policy contact discord

[pure osprey]

Trust me you have a couple of years smh

[midnight oasis]

Contact the US government I think

[ashen wadi]

certainly don't contact me it's not my choice

[paper vapor]

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FRλ (@fracore34) on X

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[west mantle]

😭

[valid falcon]

You see the joke is

[sweet echo]

losing faith in ever doing p5 thanks to absrad

[olive coral]

Yall can i still play the save file after i finish the game

like if i get the true ending can i still play on that save

[sweet echo]

you can, after you ||beat the game, it places you on the bench before doing so effectively going back in time||

[olive coral]

Oh nice

[sweet echo]

huge, well done

what were the scariest spots?

tfw garama

adino

s h a w

doing p5 grind now, i'm with you in spirit

or dream realm

absrad kicking my butt though

idk what to do

shaman strength qs steady body dream wielder

[spiral parrot]

Steel soul?

Nice

[sweet echo]

i can do rest of p5 pretty comfy it's just this fight

[spiral parrot]

Anyrad is annoying fr

I have half bosses on radiant and i still mange to die to the same bosses

[sweet echo]

not even anyrad

absrad

[spiral parrot]

Easier ig

[sweet echo]

i've done all but three bosses radiant in hog and absrad once on attuned in 4 hours of practice

that's the dream but can't rely on it unfortunately

life can also end any day you decide

thing is

most bosses in this game reward pattern recognition and repitition whereas the radiance fights are so on the fly quick movements and decision making

[bronze acorn]

r3 is done

Yippee

[sweet echo]

it's so different

[sweet echo]

well done!

[sweet echo]

when he jumps backwards, he will 100% do a shockwave

if he jumps towards you, dash under him to the other side

now it's free

he's very predictable, just as much as false knight, just faster

[worthy junco]

Random bosses become the hardest ones imo

[sweet echo]

failed champ is my pause in p5

[brave blaze]

Hello

[worthy junco]

Though failed champion is a walk in the park when you know what he does

[worthy junco]

Soul tyrant too

[sweet echo]

it is now after grinding hours for radiant learning him

[worthy junco]

Including radiant?

[sweet echo]

radiant markoth probably

[worthy junco]

Radiant crystal hunter obv

[worthy junco]

Ngl he wasn't too bad

I found winged nosk a lot worse

Or gpz actually

[sweet echo]

people throw the word random around a lot when it comes to bosses but one who floats around wherever he pleases, rotating his shields whenever he wants is actually random

regular markoth is free

gpz is also fine since he comes predictable once you learn him

winged nosk can go to hell though

not hard but annoying lol

grey prince zote

[worthy junco]

Mr. I'm totally not vengefly king with an acid cannon

[bronze acorn]

Radiant: Markoth
Ab: GPZ
Regular fight: pure vessel

[worthy junco]

IFSMEVDOGPTBPGPZ

Then absrad knocked, or rather broke down the door

[bronze acorn]

PV is very consistent yeah

[sweet echo]

i was learning pv a week ago and remember saying "i hope absrad isn't as bad as this", now pv is pretty free and i'm dying

literally hopeless first time in this game since i started

[worthy junco]

I feel you I recently started going for radiant absrad and it gets so much worse

[sweet echo]

i think it has to do with this fight just not being very fun

pv was rewarding as hell to learn

[worthy junco]

Th fight is one of the most climactic and imo best ones in the game

But sometimes rng fucks with you

[hollow timber]

Hello again

[sweet echo]

don't get me wrong radiance has the best boss intro in any game i've seen, thematically and soundtrack wise it's top tier

not that much fun to fight though

[worthy junco]

Like oh how nice that you got here! Umm anyways orbs while I suddenly spawn spikes here

[sweet echo]

yeah like there are no clear windows to attack

[junior ocean]

[worthy junco]

It's fun when you learn it

[sweet echo]

every slash feels like a hope nothing spawns on me

[junior ocean]

every attack is telegraphed

[worthy junco]

Right when you jump up

[junior ocean]

u can do multiple shrieks

[sweet echo]

so much less that it's hard to learn them for me

sword wall telegraph is literally that she does nothing for .5 seconds

[junior ocean]

its telegraphed by audio and # of teleports as well

[sweet echo]

what's the audio cue?

[junior ocean]

sounds like a woosh

[sweet echo]

i can tell the wall of light by audio by now but not that one

i'll have to listen more carefully, thank you

[worthy junco]

That's true
I think it was a mistake first time clearing without sound

[sweet echo]

is it the same for both wall and rain?

homing swords and orbs are her eyes beaming up right?

[worthy junco]

Ye

[worthy junco]

I learned this from Anika but you can actually shriek it damageless during sword circle while standing in the middle of them

[junior ocean]

all sword spawns have the same sound in the fight so yes, but u can see the swords as soon as they spawn from sword rain so it doesnt rly do much

[junior ocean]

no. its only for the burst attacks, so sword burst and beam burst

[sweet echo]

i'm getting hit by off screen sword walls coming in when i'm trying to do damage

[junior ocean]

yea u can use audio for sword walls but not sword rain

[bronze acorn]

Beam burst is gonna give me PTSD in 20 years

[sweet echo]

i need to learn these ability names

burst is coming out of her ye?

[junior ocean]

the burst attacks spawn from radiances face

[sweet echo]

wall is from left to right or vice versa

[junior ocean]

[worthy junco]

Both

[bronze acorn]

I call them Orbs, roof swords, side swords, funny sword circle, light beam, face light beams

[sweet echo]

and rain is up down

[worthy junco]

Yes

Otherwise it wouldn't be much of a rain

[sweet echo]

so does sword rain have any telegraph? that's another one that hits me when i try to get slashes in

[alpine marsh]

This sounds like either Radiance or AbsRad

[junior ocean]

not any that are easy to notice no

[sweet echo]

or is my problem just not playing like a grandma getting one hit in every cycle?

[junior ocean]

just wait a bit to attack radiance after it finishes an attack

[bronze acorn]

There are a few that are really bad (face light beams)

They have a 0.5 sec telegraph

[sweet echo]

they're fine as long as you're ready to cloak i feel

[junior ocean]

as the sword rain will always happen instantly if it followes from a burst/orb attack

[worthy junco]

Ngl normal rads face lasers are harder since they're so slow in comparison

[graceful grove]

Being slower is easier

[sweet echo]

so after burst/orb expect a rain?

[bronze acorn]

Unless you cloak into the second round

[graceful grove]

If absrad spawns lasers on your face you’re fucked

[alpine marsh]

For me I call them balls/orbs, vertical swords/spikes, horizontal swords/spikes, swords/spikes, beams (and ground spikes ig but that’s not rly an attack)

[bronze acorn]

This

[junior ocean]

well u should always expect it

[sweet echo]

aaaaah but when do i attack tho

[bronze acorn]

At least 1/3 of my radabsrad deaths have been to face beams

[sweet echo]

i learn fights by punishing openings

does this moth have any reliable ones

yeah rest of p5 sounds great with that lol

[worthy junco]

Some attacks you can hit in between attacks like face lasers

[worthy junco]

I mean it's just pv and absrad that way

[bronze acorn]

If face beams don’t disintegrate you immediately, spam shriek

[junior ocean]

as soon as radiance teleports to a new location or during an attack

[sweet echo]

to be honest i think i know the fight by now, i'm just coping being bad with it

[bronze acorn]

You can attack during pretty much any of radiance’s attacks

Unless you get a bad sword wall/ceiling and other attack combo

[sweet echo]

i've gotten to last phases multiple times so i know when to punish, not as well when to punish without getting hit

[bronze acorn]

Burst attacks are fantastic times to get a ton of damage

[junior ocean]

u can attack during every attack

[sweet echo]

and that probably comes with time which comes with practice which makes me angy

[bronze acorn]

Actually punishing face swords is really easy

Just spam shriek in between the swords

[sweet echo]

okay the problem is though

first phase is kinda fine

the platforms though

[bronze acorn]

Or Ddark with good timing

[bronze acorn]

Platforms are hard in general

[sweet echo]

i feel like every move i make is punished

chasing gets me hit, staying still makes the phase longer

if she's not above a platform i can't quick slash

if i dash towards her at the wrong time, i'll get hit by any of her attacks

i'm not alone in that the orbs are difficult to dodge even if you d dark?

[bronze acorn]

The strat I used for radiant was to wait until radiance was above a platform and using a burst move, then Ddark through the first round of swords/beams, which hopefully gave me enough time to react to where the second/third rounds were and dodge them, while spamming nail/shriek

This is very risky tho

And probably not a great strategy

[sweet echo]

so you waited for one move?

[bronze acorn]

I mean burst is two moves

Sword and beam

[sweet echo]

oh yeah

sorry

[bronze acorn]

In between I would just play safe and get a few hits here and there

[sweet echo]

both off her face which allows you to be somewhat close

[bronze acorn]

Shriek is really good for radiance cause it’s easy to land all 4 hits and it has a huge hit box

[sweet echo]

yeah i use it as much as i can

gotten some spell stall hits while dodging sword walls too

[worthy junco]

Whats your current build btw?

[sweet echo]

shaman strength quick slash steady body dream wielder

i wanna practice her how i do p5

[bronze acorn]

I believe you can change charms before PV right?

[worthy junco]

Beat other 4 pantheons, get voidheart

[bronze acorn]

Oh wait

Nvm

I read that wrong

Wait did I?

[worthy junco]

Idk he asked how to p5

[worthy junco]

Wait haven't you already gotten there?

[bronze acorn]

The message was pretty vague I think they meant that they wanted to practice the fight the same way they would fight her in P5

[worthy junco]

Otherwise you'll find a statue in HoG

[sweet echo]

sorry was brb

[junior ocean]

dash in the direction theyre spawning. dont use dive

[sweet echo]

i can get to absrad pretty easily in p5, she's the only one i struggle with

[worthy junco]

P5 absrad is normal absrad but with a way longer cutscene

[bronze acorn]

I think you get bench before PV, so making a charm build specifically for absrad is probably worth

[sweet echo]

i know and i'm struggling with normal absrad

[bronze acorn]

Unless this is wrong

[worthy junco]

It's correct dw

[sweet echo]

you get bench before pv

[bronze acorn]

If you can beat Pv with a charm build made for Absrad, you could change to your absrad build on that bench

[sweet echo]

you've done p5 ab?

[bronze acorn]

Yeah

I cheesed collector tho

Exploited balders

[sweet echo]

my thinking is that if i can't beat absrad with my regular setup, i'm just not good enough at the fight, the build isn't the problem

[bronze acorn]

That’s probably partially true but a build can make a huge difference

[sweet echo]

i'm asking tips and venting at the same time for being bad at her

[bronze acorn]

Don’t worry she’s WAY harder than every other boss

[worthy junco]

You could practice w/o strength maybe? It makes a huge difference but doesn't impact gameplay mechanics that much

[sweet echo]

yeah maybe i'll go carefree melody for some leniance instead

[bronze acorn]

Absrad is also really Annoying to practice cause of the long ass cutscene at the beginning of the fight

[sweet echo]

qol mod helps with that

[bronze acorn]

I play on switch idk how to mod

[worthy junco]

Carefree melody is very luck based and doesn't always help but do what you want

[bronze acorn]

True

It’s potentially useful in radiant fights but not much else

[worthy junco]

All you gotta do is hack your switch
Not like I'm gonna go ahead and do that

[sweet echo]

this comes down to relying on a build vs learning the fight again imo

[bronze acorn]

I’ll stick with vanilla hk 🙏

[sweet echo]

all i have to do is practice at the end of the day

[bronze acorn]

I kind of hate the absrad fight tbh

It feels too rng heavy to me

But that’s probably a me problem

[sweet echo]

you've done p5 ab on switch?

[worthy junco]

Otherwise could always watch videos on how others do it, could help with dodging/attacking during certain phases and attacks

[sweet echo]

first i was like i sleep

[bronze acorn]

Yes

[sweet echo]

now i'm like real shit

[sweet echo]

yeah i've watched way more of the radiance fight than i've played it

[worthy junco]

Did you do with lifeblood?

[bronze acorn]

I’ve only ever played on switch so idk how bad I have it

[bronze acorn]

Hell yes

[sweet echo]

the reason i'm even talking about it here is because i'm such a nerd of this game

and it feels bad that i can't get her down at all

[worthy junco]

Also a switch player

[bronze acorn]

Idk if I’m just used to the input lag but it doesn’t feel that noticeable to me

[icy flax]

[worthy junco]

Don't put yourself down, absrad is meant to be an ultimate challenge, it's difficulty is supposed to surpass the likes of anything you've ever seen

[worthy junco]

For spells or what

[bronze acorn]

In general ig

Isn’t that why the switch version is worse???

[worthy junco]

Idk

[sweet echo]

don't try pc unless you're ready to switch over

it's like 30fps vs 60fps

[bronze acorn]

I have a computer but don’t really use it

[sweet echo]

it's fine until you see the other side

[bronze acorn]

I love hk either way

[worthy junco]

I have a computer but it's kinda potato rn

[sweet echo]

you've done more than 99.9% of players already have

[bronze acorn]

Being a switch player makes me cooler trust

[bronze acorn]

I’ve done everything except r5

I haven’t done r4 but that isn’t recognized by the game so

[worthy junco]

And r5ab

[sweet echo]

is r5 radiant pantheon 5?

[bronze acorn]

Yeah

Apparently there’s a special visual for doing it

[sweet echo]

can't see r5 being harder than p5ab

[bronze acorn]

I can

Tbh

[sweet echo]

oh?

[worthy junco]

It's basically the same but constant 1 hp

[bronze acorn]

Ab is funny cause only like 5 bosses are hard

[sweet echo]

except long as heck?

[worthy junco]

The ones with minions right?

[bronze acorn]

My winning attempt was almost 1.5 hours

Brb

[sweet echo]

i watched the r5ab run the other day and someone like enraged guardian takes like two minutes alone

i'd assume the route with more damage was less risky but what do i know

[bronze acorn]

BOOM

[worthy junco]

I think the most damage you'd get in ab is by using narts since they remain unaffected

[bronze acorn]

I used cyclone slash on like 1/3 of the bosses

[sweet echo]

yeah that's what remto does all the time

[bronze acorn]

I thought nail arts had less damage???

[worthy junco]

2.5× multiplier or 1.25 if it's cyclone from base nail damage

Aka without nail binding decrease

[sweet echo]

which is 13 in nail binding right?

[worthy junco]

Yes

[bronze acorn]

I thought it’s 1.25 x 13???

[sweet echo]

this sounds right?

[worthy junco]

1.25 × 21

[sweet echo]

oh

[bronze acorn]

Wtf

I didn’t know that

Imma need a fact check

[sweet echo]

wait it's pure nail damage nail arts?

[bronze acorn]

Nail binds are better in ab because they are unaffected by unbreakable strength

Which you don’t get with charm bind

[sweet echo]

yeah but no way they retain the pure nail dmg?

[bronze acorn]

[sweet echo]

yeah i thought so, nail arts are still super strong without quick slash

[bronze acorn]

Either way cyclone slash is cracked in ab

[worthy junco]

Not me spreading misinformation 💀

[bronze acorn]

I ❤️ cyclone slash

Time for r4!!

[sweet echo]

which bosses are there in which regular slashes are better than nail arts?

i know it's situational but in general

[worthy junco]

Absrad

[bronze acorn]

Can I go over which bosses I used cyclone instead?

[sweet echo]

at absrad nail is just a mechanism to shriek no? lol

[bronze acorn]

Almost all of them without binds

Especially if you have quickslash

[worthy junco]

Facedancing exists too lol

[sweet echo]

is that a thing without qs?

or just slower

[worthy junco]

Maybe not

[bronze acorn]

Qs makes it much more effective

[worthy junco]

But probably still works

[worthy junco]

Sb helps too

[sweet echo]

false knight/failed champ, broken vessel/lost kin, hornet protector/hornet sentinel comes to mind first

flukemarm probably

oro & mato?

[worthy junco]

Idk about lost kin

[bronze acorn]

Absolutely failed champ

[bronze acorn]

Flukemarm is unnecessary

[worthy junco]

Isn't cyclone good at finishing it quickly?

[sweet echo]

that's funny because flukemarm is the only place i use cyclone in regular p5 haha

[bronze acorn]

Idk I just used nail and shriek and was able to kill her with only one round of flukes out

Maybe

Maybe not

I don’t remember actually

Lol

[worthy junco]

I just jump cyclone then shriek

[sweet echo]

in p5 she's three shrieks and a couple of nail hits with shaman strength

how do you do that with ab lol

[bronze acorn]

I used cyclone for sly phase 2

[worthy junco]

I use great slash lol

[bronze acorn]

If he is near the ground you can get 2-3 hits with cyclone every time he stops

[bronze acorn]

I did that for awhile

I actually switched to cyclone on the winning attempt

[worthy junco]

Isn't gs like 100x better damage wise then?

[bronze acorn]

🤔

[worthy junco]

Way easier to consistently hit him

[sweet echo]

cyclone is only better damage after like 4 hits no?

[bronze acorn]

Maybe I’m dumb

Actually

Hm

Oh dear

[sweet echo]

you got to show your narts to the sage tho

worth

[worthy junco]

13 × 2.5 > 13 × 1.25^3

[bronze acorn]

Cyclone slash on Obblobles is awesome

[worthy junco]

I hate oblobbles

Especially with bindings

[bronze acorn]

To the power of 3? 🤨

[sweet echo]

oh i can actually see that

[worthy junco]

If you hit it on average 2-3 times

[sweet echo]

do you go for damage on both evenly in ab?

[bronze acorn]

Idk lol

[worthy junco]

Cyclone and shade soul go brrr

[bronze acorn]

I could consistently get 4-6 cyclone hits per slash

[worthy junco]

I mean for sly

[bronze acorn]

Oh

[worthy junco]

^

[sweet echo]

jump on top of them, cyclone all the way down, double hit both with shade soul?

[worthy junco]

Yeah basically

[sweet echo]

not on top but close enough for the nart

[bronze acorn]

If they get stacked on top of eachother, you can get up to 6 cyclone hits on both of them in just one attack

That’s a LOT of damage

[worthy junco]

I use the shoving method, just keeping them far away, enough to safety use dash slash for second phase

[sweet echo]

are you in between them in that?

[bronze acorn]

Wait I’m dumb again

I need to

Hm

Yes

[sweet echo]

[bronze acorn]

[worthy junco]

[sweet echo]

i take it sisters are pretty simple

just a lot slower

[bronze acorn]

Yeah

You can get cyclone slash off when they are on the sides

But shriek is better for that

[sweet echo]

how do you decide when to use soul to heal?

[bronze acorn]

When I take damage

[zenith flume]

[sweet echo]

trying to stay full always?

[worthy junco]

When you have one charge it's best to use it as soon as possible

[bronze acorn]

Because you only have 4 health, it’s best to stay at full health

[bronze acorn]

Yes

[worthy junco]

Also don't forget about lifeblood bonuses, they let you forget about healing for some time

[sweet echo]

so you know the best damage windows for spells but only utilize them if you're already full health and have soul

[bronze acorn]

Except when I played traitor lord I didn’t do this because healing on traitor lord is nightmareish

[bronze acorn]

I once left GPz with 4 lifeblood

Actually twice I think

[worthy junco]

Tbf you get the longest time to heal after beating it so it's not that bad

[bronze acorn]

White defender is next yeah

I think

[sweet echo]

that's a bad duo

[bronze acorn]

White defender is piss easy

[sweet echo]

do you juggle?

[worthy junco]

Fr

[bronze acorn]

Sometimes

I’m really bad at it lol

[worthy junco]

Even without juggling

[bronze acorn]

It’s easy to heal on wd

[sweet echo]

idk he's been the result of some hits for me in p5

[bronze acorn]

Most of my later runs left white defender with more than one lifeblood tho

[sweet echo]

nkg is easier for me idk why

[bronze acorn]

Insanely consistent

[worthy junco]

I think the duo that receives the most complaints are markoth and gpz

[bronze acorn]

Fuck yeah

[sweet echo]

yeah i do know why lol, the shit balls

i do wanna know about ab markoth gpz

[worthy junco]

Hard but fun, I even got first try radiant for it

[worthy junco]

Gpz minions annoying

[bronze acorn]

Brb I have an ab thing

[worthy junco]

Markoth still annoying but you can't save soul so that's fun

[sweet echo]

gpz10 being a thing made him such a breeze in p5 for me

[sweet echo]

markoth i'm ready to tank hits just to get through since gpz is alr

and failed champ is free soul

[worthy junco]

Problem is that you can't OHKO the zotelings unless you use a well timed spell

[sweet echo]

are we still talking ab?

[worthy junco]

Yes

[bronze acorn]

Ab split into segments

Starting at the bottom

[sweet echo]

oh yeah then i bet gpz is a nightmare

[bronze acorn]

He is

[sweet echo]

why is free above sweat

[worthy junco]

Why is FC in hell

[bronze acorn]

White defender is after traitor lord and no eyes

[sweet echo]

oh the colors are all over the place

[bronze acorn]

It’s in chronological order

[sweet echo]

oh it's the order

i'm dumb sorry

[bronze acorn]

No

[bronze acorn]

Ye

[sweet echo]

marmu must be fun

[bronze acorn]

Marmu is immediately after gatorade

You get 5 blue health

[sweet echo]

oh right

[bronze acorn]

That being said I did have a death to Marmu

I got hit 9 times