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it will up the sales at least like thats just common sense
what is your counter argument to this then lol
No it won’t leth said that in February
actual schizo
you are not being called entitled for wanting basic communication
there are plenty of other reasons to have you being called entitled
That’s not how releasing a game works unless it’s ea
Must have missed it? Thx
Transactions like game purchases don't need "thank you" gifts lol
Not because of the community it's because they made a good game you didn't do shit my guy 😭
2nd person bandwagoning hate
people can wait people just want some updates, we all want a good game and at least me personally I know making a game is hard and am willing to wait but even small updates can go a long way

"The game won't be in the summer presentations / the development is close to finish / there is still too much stuff to do"
No they were made millionaires because they made a good game
literally just have them say if the game will be/won't be out by 2024
you looked smart until you edited it
that's it
We didn't always have interraction with game devs though. They use to just make a game, maybe make a second one and then release it when they wanted to
many developers make adjustments after gameplay trailers or something. so community feedback is good and it would be better to see mistakes before launch
Imagine trying to claim credit for the success of a game
how did that not make me not smart exactly?
because when its launched its over
i mean believe me im not a big fan of the lack of communication but i’m not mad since silksong isn’t exactly a priority for me rn nor am i mad at the dev teams since its not the end of my life
they have playtesters
dude Hollow Knight got popular yes because its a good game but also because of the community around it singing its praises. There are TONS of great games that were made many even better than Hollow Knight that never got popular.
raising canes
people would just want more and more updates even if they made them more frequently
you do realize its hard to estimate and thats specifically why they aren't giving any dates or years
They have qa for that
said it earlier, anyone who thinks they dont deserve basic communication hates themselves, and thats all they were asking for
sounds like a you problem
Because indie dev is a lottery
okay and who will care if they say the game wont be out in 2024 and then its gonna be out in 2024??it will be a plesant suprise
i see where you're coming from yeah
In that message they said that the game was supposed to come out in early 2023, so it’s been 12 months now since the game was supposed to come out. A full year to continue development on a game that was supposed to be finished early 2023. You understand why it’s starting to become concerning and people are getting mad?
Were those people singing praises in expectance of a "thank you" gift? No its because the game was great
Why dont say If the game Will be in Xbox Showcase?
"Holy shit they said silksong WONT be out by 2024 but it IS out by 2024?wtf team cherry"
you got me there ngl. I'm just guessing they don't want to lie?
how many have been happened or how long have been since one then. if im wrong please enlighten me and i will shut up lol
i mean still, its just dumb
Yeah and having a passionate COMMUNITY thats constnatly advertising the game for its gameplay lore and spreading its influence obviously had a role in Team Cherry's success.
Imagine thinking you get any credit for a game being successful just because you bought it
Parasocial meters off the charts
this is true
why are they bad at communicating, I feel like this has to be their fault. Can someone explain?
i'm not saying anything about basic communication, the entitlement comes from threats, harassment, showing up at people's offices, name slinging
i don't really get why you are so aggressive about this
look guys, we all want a good game lets let the devs cook
Its summer 2024 and they can't even give us a release date or a heads up. This is ridiculous.
but not this
OK so you're making a different argument now
They have been cooking for 5 years, its BURNT now
you guys only exxaggerate our words lol
They've been cooking for years I'm afraid its starting to burn.
it is pretty weird they havent updated their blog since 2019, or their social media since like last year
Respond to my message instead of saying something addressed 5 minutes ago
'basic communication' is not a right
oh i didnt see that part, was that user threatening harassing or showing up at someones office? is that why you called that person entitled?
sounds like projecting
i can easily explain this
Devs make games, some devs like to talk and share about their games a lot, TC seems to fall into the latter
i doubt that
Its basic courtesy tho
Or a better analogy they've been cooking for so long there might be almost no one left in the Cafeteria to eat it
Imagine wanting to make a game and not also wanting to have to interact with people a lot
and you called me illiterate, bro wasnt talking about you or the other rguy
well, I would not have expectations from it being in a future event + would clean the image of the community, since some find annoying that the chat always has someone asking for SS
i feel like toby fox does it just right honestly with deltarune
They have been cooking for too long they dont even know what they are cooking
Also just fuckin look at how people are acting do you really think this is creating an environment where they have any reason to want to interact with any of you
yeah ur def illiterate, it was never about me this is in reference to a user they called entitled
If you have a hobby you are passionate about you HAVE to disclose everything about it to the public
I'm genunuinely wondering if Silksong is suffering from feature creep.
that dude who does the marketing for them on twitter gotta have the EASIEST job on earth
i just said the other guy
Leth does stuff behind the scenes as well
“16x times the size”
16x the detail!
"to have you being called entitled" != "you are entitled"
just to make it hurt a bit more, may i remind y'all that development has been going on since 2017 in some capacity, emjoy :)
Stuff like merch deals
I swear Leth hit the job lottery by working for Team Cherry.
mean :(
thats also part of it, games in the latest directs have been getting called woke and Ls in the youtube chat because of silksong
sorry
I mean, they could say anything, right? They could say just something generic like "we are still working on it".
They just have some vendetta against communication because they aren't saying ANYTHING. They aren't going to say its not coming out in 2024, even as a lie, because they don't want to say ANYTHING
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no silksong news is literally hurting other games
irrelevant
this community lol
study up
thats because of silksong? i thought that was just gamers, in general
“TC are evil horrible people I hate them and their success isn’t even their own why don’t they want to talk to me”
you are needlessly aggressive and you need to stop lol
😭 nah I undertand people complaining, we could atleast have some news ! It's the worst communication team tbh 😦
I hate this argument, because we are still working on it has been said several times
guys new daily silksong news video out 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️
Y'all need to learn the difference between "could" and "should"
same, like there is actually a GamerGate2 going on rn
No sir, all we're asking for is a confirmation that it won't be showing up, that's the least they can do, especially when credible leakers are running rampant spreading misinformation
Why couldn't Team Cherry have at least said "we're not gonna be at Summer Showcase or Xbox Showcase" like why purposefully put their community through this?
part that, part silksong
Lmfao imagine what HE is feeling
They can do whatever they want about communication and it may be easy but they don't have to
gamers doing gamer shit (bigotry)
minor spelling mistake 😔
no there isn't. Gamger Gate 2 flopped
its not like we even get yearly updates by team cherry themselves it's always through some other source
they might be scared to end up like no mans sky and i undestand that but dude this is extreme
Theyre not putting the community through everything, is the community fault if they suddenyl decide it WILL show up there
no, its from TC
dont get where i was aggressive but okay, just called you out for editing your message to indirectly call someone entitled 😊
They didn’t “purposefully put the community through” anything
i stop
Its not their job to go into every event and say not here
idk that, I don't use twitter lol
Yeah I undertand your pov 😄
ari gibson personally waterboarded me
what in the hell happened here
He stole my bike
Yelling at people that they’re illiterate doesn’t seem aggressive to you?
ari gibson ate my steak. last year. I still haven't forgiven him
No, but it's the least they can do. Literally one tweet, one to two sentences.
again, not calling them entitled, i'm those are the reasons why people would call them entitled
civil uprising
its been 5 years since they updated this page lol
Wow how DARE the community ASSUME there could reasonably news about a game Team Cherry claimed to be releasing in 2024 during one of the biggest gaming news events of the year. Wow we're so stupid huh?
or uncivil uprising rather
mods muted ss-discussion for 5 minutes, so some moved here
i said this and they proceeded to ignore it and just say i’m wrong
they have given updates
being illiterate is a serious topic dont make light of it
Why should they even, its literally not their job, thats like saying every company with an upcoming game should go to every event and disclose specifically that the game will not be there
Gg
yeah that's crazy 
i'm not sure what "no sir" is here, that IS how that works, some devs don't like talking about it
"leaks" are always rumors and never credible
Are you pretending you weren’t doing that
What is that on?
lol
no i felt very bad for them it is very serious
wtf gg
5 years man geez
on mobile aswell?
This is a special case. Obviously. Besides, most companies don't go silent for this long.
Either brazen hypocrisy or just not being very funny. Or both.
Yeah
hold up, mobile?!?!
something something ad hominem 
call it.
whys it a special case
Both
:)
Yeye 🙂
Team Cherry has unironically killed a lot of the goodwill they earned through out the years from Hollow Knight with this behavior. There are tons of people online shitting on Team Cherry right now.
Now thats just exagerating, assuming there could be news or being hopeful is cool, but some people were downright confirming it would be there no chance otherwise
the silksong fans get a bit quirky at night
They’ll buy the game anyways it doesn’t matter
yeah so it comes down to managing their community. Again..
When you have leakers that have been around for years with great records, you're inclined to at least believe them a little, it's not like industry connections are a myth.
to be honest if they didnt partnered up with microsoft i would think they ran lol
Both of them walked it back
i would not believe them at all as they are rumors and not backed by consistent credibility
have people gotten this mad before
Yes every time
Yeah
ah ok
lol slow mode
No. People have gotten upset before but this is the most mad people have been
no id argue the other times it was more
Because it's been years since we've actually seen the game.
misinformation
Apparently its going even worse in ss disc
So
And people are understandably mad
will this be 5 minutes like the last one ?
nah it's about even
What's everyone's favourite bubble tea flavour
This is actually funny, you can see the like, 3 states of ss-disc after events perfectly in this channel, hkdisc and ss disc
Trust me its not
There have been games before with gaps between news, doesn't mean its their job either
Bruh recorder broked after nkg fight
not at all
i tried bubble tea and did not like it
I'd like to argue that people are like 20% more mad because it was in an xbox showcase before, so people might expect it to show up again (I did lol)
I have a question, do you think we will have some news on nintendo showcase ?
Mods ban this person
i dont like getting jumpscared by little balls when i drink
no way to tell
dont think so
ITS SCARY, I DONT WANNA CHOKE
Lol
i swear it was when i stopped looking at it
we've seen interest in HK grow, our numbers here and on other social media outlets have increased throughout the years, a lot of the people shitting on TC often come from social cliques where it's acceptable, they come here for events, get mad, and never interact again, i'm not sure where you're getting your metrics from
Silksong is cancelled
People are pinging tc and harrasing them for news i gotta assume thats ss discs fault
This isnt so bad
It's like a little snack while you drink
i dont want to inhale any little balls
probably lol. since i last checked the subreddit was being showered with gasoline
that's the subreddit's fault probs
and yeah also every baby hornet but
server might just implode if ss isnt at nintendo direct
See you guys could all be drinking bubble tea instead of complaining about a video game
It probably wont be
Ugh the subreddit 
I'm going to tell you right now it wont be
This is why we should remove new knights speaking perms
zal W?!
all of the ppl complaining here are not active in the community at all, most seemingly dont even keep up with the news theyre complaining abt
its 5am, all the boba shops are closed
yeah, I only get kinda entilted for half a hour and then move on, but still hurts T_T
Also how surprised would you be to say most of them arent even near being newknighrs
yeah
so
This is different, it's an incredibly ambitious project made by a very small team, development issues are not a possibility they're basically guaranteed to happen. We need some transparency on what's happening behind the scenes, even the biggest of industry giants often supply us with that.
It's joever 😭
why are people complaining about a 3 person team working on one of the most awaited games of steam?
you dont need it you want it
smh can't believe tc just said they prever red over blue they truly threw away a lot of the goodwill they gained throughout the years
communication
Entitlement most of the time but theres a crap ton of reasons
life if team cherry spent a bit of their time to talk about their game
hollow knight has earned 50 million dollars btw
Development isn't public
also it has been since 5 months since daily silksong news youtube channel has posted green lol
Everyone if TC decided that SS would have been a dlc
probs joined and interact only during events
hahahahahah this is true too
Nope, not that either
like actually isnt it easier to just wait until they announce it?
they dont keep up with news apparently
Apparently not.
By that logic every "ambitious" indie game should constantly disclose stuff
And you don't? Why?
noo guys theyre just a poor indie company, they only earned 50 million dollarerinos🥺
you arent entitled to it
Did she say she didn’t want it
I love mocking imaginary people
imagine how many bunnings snags team cherry could buy with that money
they had to spend 49 million of it on lving expenses
actual active people who are decently recognizable are pinging tc?
and 1 million on grim dlc
people are literally calling them an indie company lol
people complain about communication, i don't care if the game takes 3 more years as long as we are relitively up to date
Well when it's been years since we've last seen your game. Yeah probably.
they are an indie company!
why would you compare it like that??? tc hasnt given us anything in the last 5 years, we don't need constant updates just something atleast once or twice a year is enough
they are an indie company... they're just rich
personally i dont care, the game will come out as fast as it is whether i care, dont care, or not matter how much i complain, it won't speed up or slow down development, so why bother honestly, there's so many other games to play
so....theyre not indie anymore
I wouldn’t mind more information provided it’s not excessive but that doesn’t mean it’s reasonable to get angry when more isn’t available
She is arguing that is best.
what kind of updates do you want
its even not that hard to understand lol
indie doesn't mean "poor" 
strawman
Me when indie doesnt mean broke
i thought indie just meant a small team of devs
ok then theyre indie but theyre definetly not working on silksong with 3 people lol
why
indie doesnt mean rich = triple a
I have seen it all
what
people are still acting like they are a 3 person team,theyre not
zal wdym clearly if we all say the game will for sure be at the nintendo direct then it will be what are you doing bro pull your weight
They are
something like the blogpost in december 2019, shows a bit of the stuff theyre working on, say if theyre hitting some roadblock or if progress is going slow or fast just atleast any type of transparency like with toby fox newsletters for deltarune
...they are though?
they are?
they have.
name the 4th person
you know everything don't you
is the abreviation from "independent development"
go on.
Contractors aren’t full time employees
Team Cherry is still composed of Jack Vine, William Pellen, and Ari Gibson with additional help from others. Just like HK
they are still a 3 person team
its me, im the 4th person
You're driving such a meaningless agenda, nothing but good comes with transparency, there is no tangible reason not to want it
can you add me to the game.
even if they were 4 or 5, the same thing would happen
then theyre objectively dumb lol
Vee run before they hunt u down for info
Why not? Just a short couple sentences is all I'm asking for!
2nd strawman
Yeah but you aren't owed transparency and being transparent takes a lot of time and effort
that "ADDİTİONAL HELP" is might be 50 more people on payroll lolll
what, you mean that leth told us stuff like theyre working on the game and the delay?? the xbox gamepass trailer was 2 years ago lmfao
that'd be cool, though i'm sure a month out of development for a year might not be in their cards
Saying that with a monster prom profile picture makes u a criminal
Yknow i dont fully grasp why people who usually never talk in any of this server’s channels anyway come here on events and whine about something they literally only care about 6 days a year and dont think about 99.9% of the time
and how would they be objectively dumb
Like I just said, a couple sentences is all I'm asking for.
Ok you can ask for that but its not required for them to give you all your preferences or whatever
monster seeking monsterrrr
not only the xbox trailer man, they have stated multiple times that they are working on the game
oh you like silksong? name every dev
why wouldnt they hire more programmers and more ppl in general lol
I'm asking for fewer sentences. What are you gonna do now?
what are they doing with that 50 million
If they have a team of 3 that works well together and they prefer that they should stick with it
isnt there a bird in monster prom
Like id maybe get it if the regs here were upset since theyre the ones actually waiting but damn theres a lot of new knights in ss disc during events
i like the bird
great theyre stating the obvious lol
Greed.
hiring more programmers increases complexity and salary and throwing more money and people on a project does not increase speed
Please everyone here thats asking look up what software devs cost
dumb people are drawn together naturally, sorta like a gaydar but for dumbness
isnt that what you wanted?
50 million, salary isnt a problem
No it's not required, they don't owe me anything, nor you, it's simply a matter of courtesy, not that deep.
WE DONT CARE ABOUT SPEED DUDE WHO TAUGHT YOU READİNG
I agree with you
where are you getting this 50 million figure from
Nuh uh 200 million
Where are you getting this 50 million from anyway
because they work well together, and maybe hiring more people would go against their "vision" its not uncommon a dev team not hire more devs to preserve their vision
of a game
did you read my message??? no i want transparency about how the game is progressing, fun little tidbits in the game, maybe some new enemy types that they show or just any type of little content from silksong
true
i think they should give me all their money
İTS NOT ABOUT DELAYS İTS ABOUT LACK OF COMMUNİCATİON. UNDERSTAND THİS GUYS WTF İS THİS
WOW
programmers or other roles dont rule the vision, they just help things go faster lol
By saying this you just confirmed you know nothing about game development
they CAN, if you have good management and direction
wtf ismoil is here
Hi Ismoil.
who is ismoil
I just think after all these years it's getting absurd, the second biggest update we've gotten during the 2020s thus far was a fucking delay
idc about the actual names of it but there are 100% people they can hire to make things faster lol
lol also ture
omg hi ismoil im your biggest fan
Hi Cyanika.
damn,youre saying TC lacks good management and direction...thats cold
TRUE!
False.
I am actually his biggest fan.
i wish the direct happened while i was sleeping
Okay yeah 0 game dev knowledge
True,,
👋
dont need to be a baker to etc etc.
Okay guys picture this you and 2 of your friends are in a group making a game with thousands of people constantly asking ya about the game it's flipping stressful
you're a (respectfully) goober
seems like u arent keeping up with what is said 
I mean you know 0 about how it works, not that youve never been one
you need very little management if you are on a team of 3 and all know what the direction is
If your talking about baking then yea you do
Obviously most of these people dont, theyre all 13 they dont work
you dont, but 99.9999999% of the time, it's easy to tell when someone has no idea what they're talking about
If Silksong ends up being bad like Duke Nukem Forever then Team Cherry is done is a company. Not that it would matter cus they'd still be rich anyway but they'd become pariahs int he gaming community.
were not talking about baking were talking about the product and how long the product is taking😭
No you dont need to be a baker to know stuff about baking i agree with that, the issue is they dont know nothing about baking
Wow...Using an OVEN will be faster than NOT using an oven?Idk im not a baker tho
i eat my bread RAW
No offense, you aren't saying nor arguing anything of substance nor anything worth replying to.
that is no excuse to be radio silent for this much time
after the 30% cut on 14.99 i'm getting 28.252 million not even counting when the game is on sale
Mossbag's new game will release before Silksong does
that's crazy
when u didnt read what was said, that may seem like the case
mossbag is making a game?
it was 2019, add 5 years worth of copies
okay then lets say they are still 3 people with other freelancers here and there for speeding up things.
its still not the speed we are talking about. we just wanted news dude and i think one of the 3 has 3 fingers to write something on their site,twitter or sometwhere
Taxes also dont exist for these people ig
yep looks cool too
anyway, cya in the Nintendo direct, this discussion is getting repetitive. I am moving to #sk-discussion to see if they infection has calmed down
yall dont evade them?
do you have an updated figure for 2024?
ptfffff
Nothing is an excuse for you lot.
They might very well have a genuine reason as to why they haven't been communicating and you all will think it's just them lying.
Half of the people in the server are teenagers so that checks out
oh yeah it does look cool, not really my thing though :(
@covert current also dont ignore me dude you are trying to nitpick messages to make yourself right
IM AN ADULT
no lol
I CAN DRINK!
bro what are you talking about i was literally just talking to you holy shit lmfao
IM 20 WHOLE ASS YEARS OLD

Hi Star.
idk if i'll like it either i barely remember him talking about it
damn unc its time for bed 😭
Man theyre gonna be crying when they get their first paycheck
that shit hurts
Zal can you please lock this, ss disc and hk disc
again some devs like talking about it some dont, i'm a dev who doesn't like talking about it, i would be annoyed having to constantly take weeks out of my schedule to make blogposts, or repeat redundant information
where dude i cant the last time you mentioned something i write on the last idk 15 minutes lol
bro it hadnt even been 1 minute since his last message
🔴 
ppl are saying you need to know things about game development to know that hiring more programmers will make game development go faster
it must mean i missed your message as i'm doing other stuff and not just choosing you to ignore
In what world does writing up a blogpost take anymore than a couple hours?
'weeks' is ludicrous
in the real world!
Im on zals side here
ok fine, lets say they wanna program the game themselves
they can still hire secretaries and other people to make things other than game dev go easier lol
that's called contracting, which is what they are doing
Thats the issue, simply hiring hirng and hiring wont make it faster
Picking which information to put in it, formatting the blogpost, writing it, etc takes a while. I recall them saying it takes around a week
on one hand, zal is right, on the other hand, zal should never be right...
you might be slightly delulu 😵💫
They ARE hiring some people like what zal sais, but just adding more and more into the equation wont help much
or maybe you're just a painfully slow writer
team cherry should scrap silksong to make hungry knight 2
how will hiring a secretary to handle emails not make more time for work and therefore make work faster lol
so youre saying team cherry's lead playtest was delusional?
LMAOOOOOO.
A week does seem a bit high, although ive also never written a blogpost
Delusional shouldn't be used as a pejorative
good luck then dude. im signing out now but just for the record. you have been talking about the money they made for quite sometime haha
this response also demonstrates the point i made
Have you wrote blogpost about one of your upcoming videogames
i think i make the right decision not looking at this server everytime after a new game showcase happens
Atleast assuming full 8 hours 5 days a week
Wait can someone gimme a tldr i wanna argue
@covert current see u later mate
Same toast
damn so instead of taking a week they've just been radio silent for 5 years lol
It's like a car crash it's hard to look away
This is just not true
...didnt you like also talk about- i- it's like-
LMAO
maybe their radio broke
Id assume like 2 or 3 days maybe
ever though of that, QUAKE?
Mfw "Expect more details from us closer to release"
I'd take a week doing what I enjoy most too
yuh uh
they technically didnt oficially announce anything in 5 years lol
if you dont count twitter posts, which you shouldnt
Like what is hard to understand 
i remember it took us a couple days to write the pale court onl blogpost, half fo the stuff in that blogpost was replaced, errors in grammar and etc.
aight dinosaur fossil
Leth comes into #sk-discussion usually, and their last tweet was in 2023
No, but I've read TC's blog posts which are no longer than a couple hundred words, and that's all we're asking for!
Its not really comparable since Pale Court sucked
me when i
How do you know then that it DOESNT take weeks
leth coming into ss discussion to say theyre still working on it isnt news or any transparency for that matter
"The game isnt coming out in 2024" will take WEEKS, youre so right
but other people said it was news
thats not a blogpost
again, please remember that everyone in TC doesnt have arms, and type with their noses
thats a single. sentence.
they are also blind, and deaf
?? This is literally what 90% of yall ask for then completely say it doesnt matter? Okay then. What about the traiker with new content in 22, did that not exist either
Mfw there's a difference between a blog post and a simple sentence:
One that they might not even be in a position to make
Theyre asking for a blogpost not a sentence
Please make sure to read
theyre asking for any communication in general lol
your new pfp is interesting, star 
We are specifically talking about blogposts right now
yeah i wanna stop looking but i cant
Mummified toad unboxing
Yeah if Team Cherry kept us updated it would be much less painfull
ok but who cares about blogposts😭
There has been communication in general too so
People are fascinating
so it seems we're at a crossroads where people want news, where we want them to show signs of life, but but that isn't news, while others say it's news, and others want blogposts instead of communication, others want to know how far they are in development (which is really hard in itself)
so it seems like no matter what TC puts out, they're gonna be wrong anyway
Them, whats your point
NAUSICAA LETS GOOO. I LOVE WAR. I LOVE BIOMECHANICAL MONSTERS.
I swear this chat is so fucking dense
not any official communication lol
"we just want them to say they're still working on it!"
leth says they're still working on it
"why are they not telling us they're still working on it?!"
TRUE
I hate you too 
i just want team cherry to send me a personalized letter every week about development and what they ate for lunch
Yes there fucking has been????
😭 sorry for that
This chat is affecting me
It's genuinely so weird seeing Ismoil not be his silly self and be a smart ass person, what the hell.
EXACTLY
official tho?Twitter doesnt count lol
i mean their websites lol
Ehh whatever the mods are right, anyone whining about tc please go do something else
Why would twitter not count
please be rage bait
official except what i dont consider as such
that was 2 damn years ago??? i want damn news about the game, i want to see what they're adding if only just a little bit, give me some type of percentage of how close the game is to completion. going into a discord server to say that ´they're still working on the game is just simply stating the obvious, yeah of course you still are, we didn't expect anything else??? i want to see the damn game even if just a little bit, damn i'd be happy with a blog post talking about how progression is going, showing 1 or 2 new enemy types, maybe giving a tiny little bit of lore in it even and thats it do that twice a year and its good transparency, it shouldnt be that fucking difficult
why would normal people expect to find news about a game on someones personal twitter acc lol
From their website ≠ official, official would be anything by team cherry or endorsed by tc
Arbitrary exclusions so I can win the argument
what
TC twitter:
if i type hollow knight silksong, the devs twitter accs wont pop up lol
Ok well jeeze heres another blogpost wanters
i want i want i want
I want you to learn the difference between want and need.
do you want a messenger pigeon?
TRUE
Also the last time they posted a Twitter update people lost their shit and acted super toxic
can't imagine why they aren't committed to keeping this fanbase happy
What are the ops on almond croissants here
so good
"How DARE you expect to get something you paid for on the kickstarter"
My goat fr
no one paid for news on kickstarter
This is easy to verify, go check the stretch goals
are those the ones with like the almond spread in the middle?
oh my god the meatriding is crazyyyyy 😭 tc is great in every aspect except for communication lol
YEA OMG
Silksong doesnt have a Kickstarter does it?
No.
insert bloxflip quote
Do you have an argument
Leth once said something along the lines of Imagine just wanting to chat with your community but every message or appearance of you is marked as news and getting out of context, harrasment, and more
sorry for bringing up valid points
Well evidently you don't idk why Im asking that
if you gently microwave them for a couple seconds, damn its so good
? Wheres this coming from? Gimme a break i cant respond to everything at once
development isn't linear and often times when you think you're done, youre not
I should buy one on my way home tommorow actually I'm craving it now
Just as tc i am not a machine that can just do everything at once
Do ppl think TC is the only dev ever to get harrasement lol
i like to hope that once the game releases leth will finally be able to live normally again
you better
You know what? Im gonna go outside. There is no reason to stay inside and let this stupid bug game ruin my mood. I will go outside, look at the sky, at the ground, at the bugs, ill stomp them all, ill kill all the bugs i see outside, I’ll imagine every bug i kill is a hollow knight character
no because your argument is stupid "oh uh actually they dont owe us anything!!!" is a stupid excuse for them not giving us anything lol
so lets say they think thye're 90% done, and say they're 90% done, then they finish MVP and are like"oh shit we can add MORE stuff" now they're not 90% done anymore, and people will complain that that 90% is no longer 90%
What is so bad about wanting blogposts brother 😢 😢
It isnt, but that doesnt invalidate them, and theyre for sure not getting "just a little bit" or similar
You said this in hk-disc as well.
again, yall need to not throw insults
why did this server go completely insane lmao
Nothing? I was talking to someone else
because you just dismissed me withj "oh jeeze here comes another person crying about wanting a blogpost"
Absolutely their fault, they decided to be silent and don't communicate with their community and after 5 years this shouldn't be a surprise for them
If they don't owe us anything they don't need an excuse to not give us anything... Duh??
no man's sky got it 1000% worse and they actually communicated with players
Im not dismissing you wth
It's just been a long, long time
the devs dont deserve harassment
Also keep the terminology server appropriate 
criticism is warranted, but harassment no :(
I might be losing my mind here but didnt tc say something a while back abt encountering fundamental issues with the pacing of the game? It makes sense that jt would take time for them to sort everything out i really dont get why this many people feel the need to whine and pout, accomplishing jack shit
Never said you were crying or similar, i was jyst reinforcing a point with another user
I think we should be getting monthly blogposts UNLESS Team Cherry is in a situation where they feel uncomfortable sharing anything because of development issues, in which case they should probably tell us 👶
Ming you im at like 7 convos at once
i honestly have no clue i dont keep up with it lol, i dont care enough to
Now THIS is entitlement
i jsut play games when they come out
making a twitter message saying that the game is delayed to 2024 wont hurt anyone, they can just turn off the notifs after they post it if they dont want harrasement lol
people not throwing insults on discord??????????
really short blogposts too, a hundred words or less, maybe a screenshot, ANYTHING man!!!
i dont even think it is delayed until 2024
thats a godly way to be
Turning off notifications isn't gonna stop harrassment.
This chat is negatively affecting me and i cannot keep up with all of this at once take care of it zal
i backed nine sols in 2022 for $200 and only knew it was coming out cause someone in #sk-discussion said it was coming out in 9 days lol
bye ismoil u seem cool
May I try too?
just dont look at the screen💀
True, but they deserve everything else, last 2 years felt like screaming into nothingness. And one post where they are like "Guys we are working on the game" is not enough. At least tell us when we will have news. They didn't even bother to do it
so it kinda baffles me how people that pay $0 are so up in arms 
Oh jeez
your pfp is so good
thanks i stole it from the subreddit
good steal
Uh
You do know they also receive letters right?
You realize TC doesn't have to fulfill your preferences right? Whether you "scream" at them or not
what lol
TRYE
"Not looking at the screen" won't do shit if you know that it's still there.
"Errrm, do you really want to know about the game you paid for...?Thats problematic"
they didnt pay for it
Me when I lie
I feel like a lot of these meltdowns could have been avoided with a "Hey guys we won't be a the SGF and Xbox Showcase, thanks for your patience"
You haven't paid for silksong and you know it
Why are you so full of hate, where’s your joy….
also this lol
Silksong doesnt have pre orders i thought
mhm
you all paid for Hollow Knight, you paid to receive a product, you received said product, that's where the transaction ends
The meltdowns are not their problem remotely lmao what if someone has a meltdown that is the definition of a them problem
If you know how negative of an impact just the mere presence of something like that can have you, then you know why just “don't look at the screen lol” won’t work.
i paid on kickstarter lol
Show the receipts
thats a bit different than paying for Silksong
was silksong in your promised package
neverrr mind
theyre affecting other games, and have been like 1/3 of the reason that gamergate 2 even started
True, but they ignore us and receive hate. It shouldn't be surprising
theres so many people here XD
joy is seaped out of hollowcord when the titans (showcases) pass by 
no silksong news is unironically the cause of gamergate 2 and im serious
i paid $200 for a kickstarter and forgot about it 
source
<----- what is this creature
Better yet, the kickstarter thing for the “hornet dlc” never mentioned a timeframe anyways
and why is that TC's problem
I just want to know if it is or isn't in development hell, a working demo 5 years ago and then just about nothing does NOT BODE WELL
What?
beast from ss
its been likie 900 days
o
whats happeneing on august 2nd
Are we forgetting the fact that the last time they released a tweet to confirm a delay they were just harassed 
They weren't
Back to school
world of peak 2 drops
"Just about nothing" simply ignore them chst
look at the yt chat and see 'L' and 'no silksong' everytime a black person is on screen during the game fests
I always thought it was God Tamer's beast. Damn.
im homeschooled 😔
and while, yes, a lot of meltdown COULD be prevented by TC, it's not their job, and i'm prety sure i saw a leth tweet a while ago saying communities should manage themselves
Back to home
lmao
We've gotten crumbs.......
Huh?
literalmente c rumbs
i'm pretty sure it's not because of the body and head shape anyway
Thats simply not true.......
Everyone I know irl is like "wow no silk yet that's crazy, anyways" and goes back to not thinking about it lmao
they do that to everything
What have we gotten?
Besides a short trailer and a delay
Literally check the pinned message in sd didc
Stop acting like we knoe nothing about the game and do research
i think you should all go sit in the naughty corner
What
what
????????????
ok you can stop trolling now
"We're still working on the game" Oh wow, I had no idea! This changes everything!
what
im not trolling😭
Back in my day people got creative after newsless events, now they just whine and harass devs :(
you cant just say that
Check the pinned message and youll see
its unironically how it went, but ok i get that
then unironically you need some sort of intervention
What. Afraid of opeming your eyes?
you can always ask the creator one day if they're available 
Yeah 2 trailers, a buncha blogposts, edge magazine, leth riddles, and community interaction with leth are all just "crumbs"
In addition to the storepages
oh 2 ost samples
Oh wait really?
The image won't load, but yeah, looking at the body colour does make me think it might be that creature from SS.
Yeah, Lace and Bonebottom
3 I think
How are these real people 
bonebottom so good
3 yes there's the menu screen but that one SUCKS.
how DARE you
I wonder if they know that team cherry couldve just like not made a sequel
Over 5 years? Crumbs!
for real
they're not they're rage baiters lol still funny to see what they come up with
They are held to no societal or law bound statute
thatd be better lol
Why does significance decay with time
And how much would YOU have preferred
silksong is prolly gonna get butchered anyways
What is this trolling 😭
“Im so mad about not getting news for the sequel id rather the sequel didnt exist so i wouldnt get any news at all”
And that's how I know you're not serious.
Unfortunately, Tim Cherry is a total asshole. I threw them a nuclear weapon
I look away FOR 5 MINUTES and miss the guy that was trolling
Critical thinking isnt a strong suite is it
true...
burger blast these trolls to the ban zone
I mean.....yeah.Just look at stuff like ME3 lol, itd be better if it didnt exist
so you spent the last like what half hour just complaining only to come to this conclusion this bait is getting less believable vro
some dude said ss was a front for white supremacy
So HK fans rejoice
I ain't asking for much more, I'm just saying a yearly trailer is NORMAL, monthly blogposts are NORMAL, what's happening here ain't normal, there are clear issues lurking behind the scenes, I just want transparency on what they are
Your pfp is sick btw
💔 im sorry vro i'll try to come up with better stuff later
do you think talking about hornet being too masculine will work next time
I didn't know you were the judge of normal
nah im no even gonna touch that one
ty shin godzilla true kino
I mean I think the gambling joke is kinda obvious
me neither 😭
I can think of a few games that didn't get monthly blogposts (or blogposts at all)
I can think of games that didn't get yearly trailers
This is simply not industry standard no matter how you spin it, we're in a famine
real
games that, let me guess, are now released
Why is that relevant
im SO hyped i cant wait to get news about news from a third party source
You keep making one argument and switching to another
I like how gta fans went 9 years without real news and complained less than these typa mfs
because Silksong could release anytime between tomorrow and 600 years from now
And when were they announced? Maybe before SS?
So
its pretty usual for small dev teams to take many years for game released though i thought
before 2019?plenty of games got released by then lol
it is yes
idk and i'm glad you admitted to baiting it was going on for a bit too long but maybe next time you'll make me believe you vro 
it's entirely different when we have a release window a year after the announcement, Silksong still doesn't have one nearly 6 years later
so why we mfs complaining
🫡 i'll try i'll try
civ fans have been waiting a lot longer for civ 7 💀
HK took 4.5 years.
SilkSong is supposed to be much bigger.
SS taking more than 5 years? UNACCEPTABLE.
well im off, see you all at the nintendo direct or whatever
Games take time, games have different levels of transparency, there is no one "industry standard"
They didnt complain for 9 years BEFORE the trailer came out
Ya'll think team cherry is gonna say something about the situation or more radio silence?
My ap world teachers a civ 6 fan 😭
"GRRR! these small dev teams need maximum effeciency and shouldnt have a life!"
Thanks for reiterating my point.
You keep saying stuff is entirely different without explaining why
It wasn't announced, lol? Why should they be expecting news for a game for all they know doesn't exist
remember that game developers have no workers rights because making videogames isnt a real job

tell bro about civ 7 for the memes
Team Cherry spent all of their PR funds in Crack
Ima wait until june 7
pull an fnf dev team fr
Thats when we’ll know if she got me a 5 or not
I ain't spending every waking moment fiending for Katana Zero 3 news, that's just insanity. It's entirely different when a game isn't announced yet
what fuck is katana zero 3
Hi Future.
I don't know, the developers have been so silent on it man....... I can't wait much longer man........
im a monster hunter fan and im ravenous for content as much as the next guy, but these silksong goonies are horrifying
didnt katana zero dlc get an update like a month ish ago
the third instalment of katana zero ofc silly
if so that's 
wtf is katana zero
peak
peak kino
it's great trust
OST rocks too
give money and ill buy it bro fr
katana zero has one flaw and it's that it's so short
Katana Zero is p great
Yoo another cool person to balance the scales
The wait for it has been unbearable actually,,, there's been like no news.............. Although it's a free expansion and some of their development team is situated in Ukraine so the lack of updates are understandable
I'll be real though, I don't think it's ever coming out
they tweeted out a cool new teaser and said we're still working on it so my hope for it has been rejuvnated
they do that every year though
I'm sure it'll come out, eventually, but the fact we didn't even get gameplay or a release window for the big 5 year anniversary is a bad omen
the chances of me dying before it releases at current development speed is way too high to get excited for it
I'M PRAYING though
more thank silksong 
i hope the collector will be in future games 
😨
😯
Bro missing the point completely
tell me your stoobid without telling me your stoobid
The point is "pride" as in, to not be ashamed about it because we have been told for at least a couple of centuries by now that it's wrong and that we will go to hell for it
that isnt even a question
because
thats not a question thats an opinion
They need it because they arent allowed to be gay by many people and places and have to fight for it. Theres literally death penalty for being gay in many countries
straight poeple havent been chased and killed just for who they are throughtout history
ok
no it doesnt
i dont belive ill go too hell
You dont need to censor the word
and be that as of may
i dont believe in hell or heaven
that is a misinterpretation and even then it doesnt make it right
pretty sure the month was created because it used to be perfectly fine to wish death upon those the month is created for
im queting jesus here
Funnily enough a lot of religious people would disagree with you
Automod doesnt delete the word gay alone
love EVERYONE, as i have loved you
Thats very true
idk if any religion says gay ppl are damned 
The lack of Silksong news may have awakened the deeply engraved bigotry deep within this man. Fascinating coping method
what discussion did i walk in on now
Okay but now you are just changing topics. You asked why there is a month for it, and we have answered. There isn't much more to it
the jesus you believe is probably a jesus that wouldnt like you, like, wouldnt like you a lot!
What no silksong does to a man
That is how discussions usually go
in what religion
Christianity i would assume in this case
maybe but that doesnt follow with Christianity 
"Before we go, we have one final announcement!" *Cut to new Gears game
"The gays did this... 😠 "
the 3 u listed dont state that
Well, now you know why
what the hell happened here 
no clue vee
guess my native language
i told them go off topic but liek
enclish
grey mourner and that mantis fucker are gay right
Bestie this chat is offtopic
What is hapoening in here
yeah
its hk-off topic
hk and offtopic
arguing about religion
Yes, offtopic that allowes hk discussions
i think cloth might also be lesbian
ohhhhhhhhh
Why would anyone want that 
real tbh
nola is a pretty feminine name
Why are you even here atp 💀💀💀
Star, kindly shut up and hop on amog
i thought nola was a god
"arguing" is not the right word
Some pride talk but no one seems to be directly homophobic
1 sided battle?
how am I gonna play amog if I CAN'T SPEAK
pride fuck yeahhh wooo
um
you kinda are methink
probably because of your intro message
?? Thats your fault smh my ehad dmh smhsmzhsmdgsmsh
a discussion does not mean argument
hooray homophobia my favorite joyous activity 😁 😁😁😁😁🦭
Nah but like you come here talk about gay people and haven't play hk in 3 years ???
Leviticus 18:22 is often interpreted in an anti-lgbtq way
Actual troll behavior
i havent played it in a while only recently came back but
wtf yato knows religion?!
alrigjt
Actually, theres not much to "interpret" in the english versions ive seen, its very direct
I love gay discourse
"stfu about religion ffs" skibiticus:69420
uhh pretty sure its like... oppression? iunno
The english versions are not homophobic I believe
"Leviticus 18:22 KJV
[22] Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. "
that doesnt follow with the discussion tho.
not rly one i wanna have anyway. religious discussion is bald
i dont lie as is B)
"dont lay in bed with another guy that shi gay asf" -god
Labeling it as a sin is basically saying that its something bad, which it isnt and shouldnt be labeled that way

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Oh <@&283547423706447872>
GRAHHH FEAR ME
Sonia 2 slow ahh
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Well that was a talk
I was gonna say something very mean
Shrue
good riddance
thank garf
better for both of us
dude opened with saying "g4y" and was like "why do ppl thing im homophobic ?!?!"
I was waiting for something to happen
i like your profile picture
I almost thought it would resolve peacefully but 
Religion is fascinating
Same honestly
i mean it almost did until he said The Thing
thanks!
bro led with "i defended lgbt" then hit us with a "i dont like trans people"
Yeah i dont think they were much supporting of it either
That happened
i thought itd all go well until he said That
cant wait to get those other 2 pings after i close my phone and walk away
Based,,,
I thought it was just worded unfortunately at the start and then je hits us with the "trans people cringe as fuck" 
oop
SAME i thought it was just like.. misunderstanding
i wuv trans people so much i became a trans people
i will never buy "im just curious why they get their own month"
literally me
also coming into a hk discord of all things and spouting that kinda stuff
im just asking questions
discord mobile ftw
hooray transphobia yayyy
yipee
yayyyy being despised is the best
Yup
people freaked about the gorilla tag pride update and said this
i literally cant go on facebook this pride month bc of my algorithim is fucked and pushing me bigoted posts
mfs were like "why did we get a pride update and not a bhm or veterens day update!" wtf would they do for that anyways though
😭 it takes a 1 second google search if you really are genuinely out of the loop
Im still planning on reading the major religious texts of the major Religions( probably starting with the bible ), if only god wasnt so goddamn wordy smh its all so long
God needs a better writing style
"Why is there no straight pride mon-" stfu
gonna delete all social media and communicate with other people with letters and morse code instead fr fr
FOR REAL
you could say he ordered a yappuccino...
Trueeeee
like. just create earth and be over with it
always the same damn thing
no need for it it’s just an excuse to ignore or downplay minorities
"Homophobia is basically non existant at this point everyone already supports you stop trying to get attention"
lmao ive seen this in real time btw
People who only hate minorities because thats what people long ago did dont have original thoughts?
Same,,
unfortunately people cant really live and let live
What a shocker
reminds me of "all lives matter" ...
God not that shit
lmaooo
Yknow dont get me wrong but i am glad this homophobia discussion happened
kinda same
Like at least its a better topic than fighting tc over silksong
i'd rather these kinds of people reveal themselves so they can be politely removed anyways
im getting really tired of the lack of news
Seeing people not trying to kill eachother is kinds nice
shhhhhhh
i hated that
they just dont care about the fans ig
Star i SWEAR i will send a nuke to you
shhhhhhhhhhhhh
yeah, dont really want imbeciles hiding in the shadows
wrong reply omg
speak of the devil
I'm pirating silksong
Heyyy lets have a TC and piracy discussion at the same time 
True,,
pirating shows is peak
I should count how many homophobes have appeared in here since we changed the server icon
pirates yaaaargh me matey
hey @devout flume just realised we in 2 similar servers
netflix is mid stop paying!
I know its at least over 100
that would be a greatr experiment
cool
With like 40 day one
Oh I still need to get my inactive homophobe killstreak up
keep them in their own channel
Is there no kill count in the mod chats? Smh
I lost count,,,
guys is there like autosave or smh? i just bought game
bench
Id have assumed yall have spreadsheets and shit
i love imagining that when people get banned they just get dragged out back and dealt with
the one you can rest on?
Funnily enough the idea of the pride icon was based on two things, showing support for the month of june, AND weeding out homophobes
precisely
genius
The game saves every time a little icon shows up at the corner, this happens at benches and when saving and exiting the game
Your welcome i just stole the idea
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Leaked wtf
aight thankss
i bet all those bans in the last week are all from the past 3 days
you're welcome fwiend
a total? 😭
653 bans... not bad
Its like some sort of game 
on that streak
16 in the last week
since june 1st
absolutely
Theres no way youve banned 600 people wtf,,
was expecting more
Do i have perms to that command
mods will remember the zythas days
/modstats
what on earth are the zyths days
Sigh…..
and yea one more question is there like a map or smh? i feel so freakin lost rn
😰
??? mind explaining?

@covert current zal can i have perms to the command i wanna see mine
72 people from just one mod holy shit 
Y'all aren't old enough to remember the zysomething days
yeah, theres a button for the map
we had probably 2,000 bots join the server within like 5 hours and had to ban them all
wait are those stats for just u
that was even before I was a mod I think
spam dm'ing people crypto shit
tell us your stories, undisclosed grandparent
Yes
i dont remember sorry
can you tell me which one?? im playing on switch
there was one of those waves that happened not long after I came on tho
the war must have been rough
we had the hypesquad shit too
all the bots had some name like "zythas" or something
Hi joky
I remember hypesquad
are you sure it wasn't a hivemind?
hey
i play on pc, but id try minus or +
Aah interesting, i dont think I was around for that lmao
man i was supposed to go on a hike today
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