hk-general

[native blaze]

Be a man and use your nail, spells are for little boys

[junior ocean]

nuh uh just use fireball

[raw flame]

idk much about the game it's my first time playing

[stiff depot]

don't you need cdash to get wings?

[junior ocean]

nuh uh

[little jacinth]

Average low % speedrunner gameplay

[native blaze]

Yeah

[stiff depot]

well I guess you could shade skip

[junior ocean]

u only need fireball and shaman to get wings

without skips u need other stuff but thats lame iirc

[little jacinth]

You can get some precise poggos and skip it

[raw flame]

been doing that, I didn't come for advice about the boss lol, just thought about joining

[stiff depot]

or shade skip

[little jacinth]

Welcome to the server man

[junior ocean]

thats what u just said

[stiff depot]

or shade skip

[junior ocean]

true

[frigid island]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-my-beloved-gif-22029076

[stiff depot]

lmao

[junior ocean]

hkofftopic is always 🇵🇰

[frigid island]

Sometimesss

[little jacinth]

The thing I like the most about hk discord

[stiff depot]

never a dull moment until there are many dull moments

[raw flame]

okay so I have the three base spells, I didn't know that there were upgrades for them, I have a level 3 nail, and all of my nail arts

[midnight oasis]

She's suggested to be one of the original candidates

[stiff depot]

mhm 1 upgrade for each spell and 4 stages of your nail

[raw flame]

only one extra soul vessel and seven hearts

[little jacinth]

But the hive didn't exist back then ...

[midnight oasis]

Yes it did

[little jacinth]

It got introduced later on, in a dlc i think

[stiff depot]

there wasn't a hive knight fight if that's what you mean

[midnight oasis]

If it didn't exist before the infection it wouldn't have the opportunity to wall itself off from Hallownest

The Hive existed in the base game, Hive Knight was added later on

[little jacinth]

Oh, didn't know

[stiff depot]

⬆️

[raw flame]

where are the upgrades located? I've got the whole map unlocked

[little jacinth]

Quite a forgettable boss the hive knight

[midnight oasis]

I like it

Pretty short but pretty fun

Too bad it guards an awful charm

[stiff depot]

DD is in crystal peaks, above the gap that leads to resting grounds

[raw flame]

was that the infected knight

[stiff depot]

vengeful spirit/fireball you need the elegant key from sly

[little jacinth]

Except you are doing pop

[midnight oasis]

PoP gives infinite soul anyways

[stiff depot]

and open the door in city- close to soul sanctum

[little jacinth]

Not everywhere

[frigid island]

No

[stiff depot]

and scream you scream in the dark room left of the abyss

[frigid island]

Well it was infected but Ik what u r talking abt

[junior ocean]

the wanders journal also suggests the hive to have existed for a while

[midnight oasis]

The only place it doesn't give a soul totem is the kingsmould fight and if you are good enough to dodge long enough for hiveblood to heal you its not very useful

[midnight oasis]

Chances are you can just defeat the kingsmoulds in that time

[stiff depot]

yeah hiveblood only useful for cowards

[raw flame]

not the broken vessel

[stiff depot]

just cdash stall on the wall to never take damage

[little jacinth]

It's still more useful than dash master, or sharp shadow

[stiff depot]

that is true

[midnight oasis]

Half of the charms in the game are completely useless

[little jacinth]

Healing build is goofy

[stiff depot]

bro dashmaster fucked me the first time I did white palace

[stiff depot]

Wayward charm my beloved

💞

[native blaze]

Hey, i'm back

[midnight oasis]

And of that other half theres like 7 that outshine all the rest, making the rest of the half useless as well

[stiff depot]

hey back, I'm cthul

[little jacinth]

Like flukenest

[midnight oasis]

Charms are wildly unbalanced

[native blaze]

Nice to meet you

[brave blaze]

Halloo

[midnight oasis]

Glad Silksong is ditching them

[stiff depot]

[brave blaze]

Nice to meet you

[frigid island]

What is silksong doing again

[raw flame]

charms are charming

[midnight oasis]

Tools are more charming

[stiff depot]

what the silksong doing

[native blaze]

Yep, compass should be 5 notchs and kings soul should be free, change my mind

[frigid island]

Like in the ppace of charms

[stiff depot]

guaranteed People are gonna make a theory that only the vessels can use charms or something like that

[little jacinth]

what the silksong

[native blaze]

Nah, Sallubra uses charms

[midnight oasis]

You use kingsoul once on an easy trek to birthplace I think TC could go nuts with the charm cost on Kingsoul

[little jacinth]

Sly uses mop confirmed

[stiff depot]

people make dumb theories with no research all the time

or fail to miss the point

[native blaze]

But like, you gotta make the white palace for this charm, and it's 5 notchs, wtf?

[little jacinth]

All my playthrough I thought that soul was milk

[native blaze]

And it's not even a good charm

[stiff depot]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-the-milkman-milkman-psychonauts-milk-delicious-gif-15360002

[midnight oasis]

idk I think you should have 5 notches by the time you get to white palace

[stiff depot]

me focusing in HK be like

[native blaze]

BUT THE KINGS SOUL IS NOT 5 NOTCHES WORTH; -;

[little jacinth]

Besides, why is sealed vessel so overrated?

[stiff depot]

you replace it instantly anyway what's the big deal

[midnight oasis]

It doesn't matter though

[native blaze]

Cause i would like to use it at leadt once for real

[midnight oasis]

The main use of KS is to get Voidheart

May as well just be a lore charm

[plain dew]

well this age poorly

[stiff depot]

if you are really that salty you can get the better VH mod that lets you keep the effect for free

[native blaze]

Yeah

[stiff depot]

smh

[native blaze]

But i play on the Ps4

[little jacinth]

Kingsoul evolves into the best charm

[stiff depot]

oh rip

[junior ocean]

that wouldnt make sense iirc

[stiff depot]

huh?

[midnight oasis]

This segways neatly into my theory as to why Salubra and Elinna are vessels

[brave blaze]

What

[little jacinth]

Who is elinna?

[midnight oasis]

It explains itself, really

[native blaze]

They're not:/

[midnight oasis]

Elinna is the author of Wanderer's Journal

[stiff depot]

I know lol it's why I said dumb theory

[midnight oasis]

Also stop bullying me for my theory 😭

[stiff depot]

[little jacinth]

Isn't that the menderbug?

[native blaze]

No that's a weird theory

[midnight oasis]

no

[stiff depot]

hey guys I have a theory I think the knight is actually a child of the pale king?!

[native blaze]

No???

[stiff depot]

crazy I know

[midnight oasis]

Its a weird game

[native blaze]

Nah, he's Zotte's child

Also, is zotte a vessel?

And why not?

[little jacinth]

I also have a theory, hornet is grimms child

[raw flame]

I wanted to stream my game in the vc lol

[stiff depot]

zote came from outside hallownest so probably not

[plain dew]

look at the right side

hes there watching chat... and me playing osu ig LMAO

[midnight oasis]

his dialogue suggests he comes from outside the kingdom and he has numerous visual differences from the vessels

[little jacinth]

The same happened with the knight

[eternal jungle]

zote is also not white skinned

[midnight oasis]

Unlike Salubra and Elinna, who look near identical

[native blaze]

But he's like, basically identic to the vessels, but old

[midnight oasis]

Vessels don't age

[little jacinth]

But pure vessel

[midnight oasis]

Nor is he "identical to the vessels", his head shape is less round

[native blaze]

So why the hollow knight is bigger than when he was birth?

[midnight oasis]

Vessels don't age naturally*

[eternal jungle]

and he is male

[junior ocean]

what

[midnight oasis]

TK is the same age as THK

[eternal jungle]

he is obviously referred to as he

[little jacinth]

What

[native blaze]

Hornet is kinda of a vessel

[stiff depot]

we know the vessel came from the abyss n possess no will, pretty sure zote references life in the savage wastes so idk if he's from the abyss too lol

[midnight oasis]

And PV's Hunter's Journal entry suggests it's size is due to its unique upbringing

[midnight oasis]

Fully a vessel

[little jacinth]

She's not made of void, so that's a false statement

[eternal jungle]

yea she is "THE gendered child"

[midnight oasis]

Why would she not be made of void

[stiff depot]

hornet isn't vessel she's just related to the knight

[eternal jungle]

not A gendered child

so she is the only gendered child of pk

[native blaze]

But like, why a vessel needs to be void filled?

[junior ocean]

gender isnt relevant to a vessel iirc

[native blaze]

Cause hornet is a vessel and she's not made of void

[little jacinth]

Since when the void can fill something?

[junior ocean]

imo BV is a male

[midnight oasis]

White Lady forces assumptions about purity onto all the vessels, regarding it as the base state of a vessel; a pure vessel would not have gender, hence "Gendered Child". There's nothing actually limiting a vessel from forming a gender identity

[native blaze]

You understood what i meant to say

[junior ocean]

and the vessels in the p4 cutscene are female

[midnight oasis]

Broken Vessel is a girl

[junior ocean]

true

[little jacinth]

Yeah, I'm just joking

[midnight oasis]

Helps contain the Radiance

[stiff depot]

the void by default is empty

[swift vault]

offtopic is very different now

[little jacinth]

Broken vessel is a orange juice container

[junior ocean]

offtopic is now #hk-lore

[swift vault]

[junior ocean]

a female orange juice container

[native blaze]

Yeah, but that doesn't necesseraly means that a vessel needs to be made of void

[midnight oasis]

Well idk why it would be called a vessel at that point

[swift vault]

it is soo true lol

[native blaze]

Because they're not a bug that exists

[midnight oasis]

Soul of Root, Soul of Wyrm, Heart of Void

Not just "Soul of Wyrm"

[junior ocean]

what

[stiff depot]

it does cause the radiance corrupts anything with a will

[little jacinth]

When you beat p5, and desinfect the Hallownest, do you save the hollow kinght?

[stiff depot]

the void doesn't have a will to corrupt

[swift vault]

i have that is fake

[stiff depot]

making it docile enough to contain

[midnight oasis]

I'd argue root isn't as important since thats not relevant to the containing of Radiance

[little jacinth]

Nor mind to think

[raw flame]

hm

[untold elm]

hi chat

[native blaze]

Yeah?

[midnight oasis]

Which is why I still think its reasonable to call Hornet a vessel, as she posseses the soul of a Wyrm and a heart of void

[junior ocean]

the abyss climb dialogue likely isnt literal

[native blaze]

But she has proper will

[swift vault]

Abyss Climb is cool shh

[stiff depot]

hornet doesn't have anything to do with void other then having a bunch of void half brother's lol

[little jacinth]

Just to clarify, hornet is the child of the pale king, herrah, grimm and the void?!?

[midnight oasis]

As did THK and all the other vessels; no vessel was pure, neither is PK's criteria literal

Hornet is the child of the Pale King and Herrah

There is no consensus on it, but I believe she is void too

[stiff depot]

we know the mother and father and why

[junior ocean]

void does have a will anyway iirc imo

[native blaze]

SO THE VOID HAS WILL AND THE VESSELS DOESN'T NEED TO BE MADE OF VOID TO BE A VESSEL

[midnight oasis]

...no

[smoky chasm]

#hk-lore -> #hk-general

[little jacinth]

Then shadow soul has a will and thus can be infected?

[midnight oasis]

If it wasn't made of void it wouldn't make sense to say its a vessel [for the Radiance]

[swift vault]

Lore worst thing ever this is bald

[junior ocean]

yes

[stiff depot]

I think it's simply a case of not knowing enough about the void in game lol

[junior ocean]

what

[native blaze]

BUT HORNET IS NOT MADE OF VOID; -;

[stiff depot]

hornet doesn't have any connections to void other then having a bunch of half brother

lul

[native blaze]

YES

[little jacinth]

Remember that hornet can't use soul, thus she's not made out of void

[native blaze]

AND SHE'S A VESSEL

[frigid island]

https://tenor.com/view/fishing-rod-snap-cast-fish-fail-gif-17119887

[native blaze]

Wait, that's not how it works, the bugs of soul sanctum were able to use soul

Also the snail shamans

[stiff depot]

I mean, anything can be a vessel it's just the ones bred from the higher beings and corrupted with the void are better suited

[little jacinth]

But they can't do it naturally

[swift vault]

what:? lol

[native blaze]

Source?

[stiff depot]

think of it like the dragonborn, sure people can learn to use the thuum but the dragonborn learns it instantly

[little jacinth]

200+ hours of gameplay

[stiff depot]

[native blaze]

Doesn't counr

[little jacinth]

They all have this weird looking jewels on they forehead

[stiff depot]

and yeah to regular bugs soul is like am obsession, like a drug

[junior ocean]

"The mind still limits us so. How to break past its constraints? To attain a pure focus, is it even possible?"

along with other dialogue that i didnt feel like getting

[native blaze]

And the snails?

[stiff depot]

the snails are like the moths, we don't know much about them

[little jacinth]

The snails are a mistery so far

They never used soul on camera

[stiff depot]

the moths we only know of 3

the Radiance, the one random ghost and the seer

[native blaze]

Yeah, but they can use soul, and they're not made of void, so you don't need to be made of void to use soul

[native blaze]

What? Off course they did

[frigid island]

Turbo

[stiff depot]

how do you know they arnt of void?

[little jacinth]

When?

[stiff depot]

they're a mystery, they know of the void meaning they have to be pretty damn old

[native blaze]

The snail litteraly uses siul to give us the vengefull spirit

[junior ocean]

star is typing a lot 😨

[swift vault]

Chat is so

[stiff depot]

wild

[junior ocean]

very pk

[midnight oasis]

Hornet is not explicitly said to be made of void, no, but the game does draw a lot of parallels between her and other void beings.
• The Vessels show the ability to absorb soul, the lifeforce and mana of Hollow Knight's world.
• The Snail Shamans of the void also are seen drawing soul from their environment, additionally, they seem to possess more soul than regular bugs and were captured by the AC because of it, see the Dive shaman.
• The Void Totems, made by a void wielding Ancient Civilization, also draw soul from the environment
• The Ancient Basin and The Abyss are both noted to lack life, plausibly due to void sucking all the soul from the surrounding environment
• The Collector killed LKbug after spending too long in contact with it, also plausibly due to stealing the soul of the bug.
• If you'd like an idea of what happens when a non-void bug tries to gather soul, look to the scholars, who were heavily deformed from trying to cast spells of their own and had to steal them from the void shamans
• Wingsmoulds grant infinite soul and seem to operate a weird soul-magnet mechanism, unless it somehow has infinite soul stored within it, it would also have to replenish its soul, plausibly through void.

I think void drawing soul from the surrounding environment is fitting thematically, as void is the opposite of life, and thus soul. Elinna poses the possibility that void behaves aggressively to life in an attempt to pull victims under. Perhaps this is a cruder, less refined way of gathering soul? It makes sense to conclude Hornet is void because of this pattern of Void gathering Soul.

[little jacinth]

But teaching you how to make a spell is not soul related for sure

[midnight oasis]

Additionally, upon climbing The Abyss after getting the Shade Cloak ability, Hornet remarks that she and TK draw upon the same source of power, possibly void. Unlike her, she notes that TK seems to be a hollow vessel.

[native blaze]

HE DOESN'T TEACH US, HE LITTERALLY GIVE US THE VENGEFULL SPIRIT MATERIALLY

[midnight oasis]

She also has a striking resemblance to the vessels and shares their black void body

[stiff depot]

the snails are too mysterious, we don't know anything about them kekw

[native blaze]

But Zotte has a black void body

[swift vault]

lol

[little jacinth]

Sould dissipates over time, but the vengeful spirit thing doesn't

[stiff depot]

they could be void they could not, they could use soul they might not

[midnight oasis]

Well we see them explode into dark particles and they grant us the void spells

[swift vault]

now you will say GPZ is a vessel

[native blaze]

BECAUSE IT'S A FUCKING GAME AND YOU PICK IT UP INSTANTLY

[midnight oasis]

Well the abyss ambience plays in the Grey Prince Zote lead up, I don't think its out of the question that he is a void creature from another kingdom

[little jacinth]

You can leave

[junior ocean]

oh man is someone arguing that the snail shamans couldnt use soul ?

[swift vault]

lol am cryin

[little jacinth]

Me

[native blaze]

So he's also a vessel!

[native blaze]

YEAH

[stiff depot]

that is true

[midnight oasis]

Cant focus

[little jacinth]

Hornet with rtx on

[midnight oasis]

Also this is worth noting, the wingsmoulds seemingly draw up infinite soul from their surroundings as wel

[native blaze]

Neither does hornet

[swift vault]

Wingmoulds based

[native blaze]

And she's a vessel

[little jacinth]

Nor quirrel

[midnight oasis]

Hornet utilizes the "bind" ability which works pretty much the same way and presumably was a PK technique adapted using weaver silk

[little jacinth]

Hornet is not a vessel

[stiff depot]

again, anything with thought, feeling and will can't be a vessel, otherwise what was the point of having birth to thousands of vessles

[midnight oasis]

Guess THK isn't a vessel

[native blaze]

Why???

[junior ocean]

theres heaps of evidence to suggest the snails could manipulate and use soul:

"I'm going to give you a gift, a nasty little spell of my own creation." - snail shaman when giving u a spell

"Forgotten shaman artifact, used to draw SOUL from still-living creatures." - soul eater

"Used by shamans to draw more SOUL from the world around them." - soul catcher

theres more that i dont feel like getting 🔥

[stiff depot]

sure they could be a vessel but they would be corrupted so much quicker

[little jacinth]

Hornet has gender, mind, voice, will and can't focus

[midnight oasis]

None of the vessels except TK were pure yeah

They are still called vessels

[swift vault]

failed Vessels

[midnight oasis]

Who is to say vessels can't have a gender, mind, voice, will

[little jacinth]

The pale king

[junior ocean]

PK is stupid

[stiff depot]

the hollow knight is a vessel and still got infected, that proves vessels can grow and develop these things too, which is why he did

[midnight oasis]

Yes he's quite famous for being correct in his supposition that all vessels are pure and his speech is also well renowned for its literality

[stiff depot]

pk is what made the pure vessel corruptable

[midnight oasis]

Because the ability to talk would compromise the vessel's hold on Radiance, apparently

[junior ocean]

no

[swift vault]

oh man

[little jacinth]

Pale king is based af

[midnight oasis]

As based as a white colonizer can get

[little jacinth]

Is the only chad in the game

[swift vault]

you are the chad in the game

no way Elderbug is the chad of all 👍

[stiff depot]

guys the only true void character in HK is ofc...

[midnight oasis]

Elderbug is an awful person

[stiff depot]

MAYA

[little jacinth]

Elderbug deserves the worst

[midnight oasis]

He's like my grandpa

[junior ocean]

elderbug is the most pk and evil person in hallownest

[stiff depot]

Maya is 100 void and nothing you can say will change my mind

[midnight oasis]

Old, bitter, entitled, and xenophobic

[little jacinth]

GuYs, ElDeRbUg Is A vEsSeL

[swift vault]

Elderbug boss done?!!

[junior ocean]

he is

[midnight oasis]

When did you get so based

[stiff depot]

mirabell is actually the true enemy, she hires the Radience and sly to spread the word of capitalism

[little jacinth]

Why did I start this conversation again?

[stiff depot]

[junior ocean]

when i hopped on deviator

[stiff depot]

this is so chaotic

I love it

[swift vault]

Deviator

[midnight oasis]

Deviator devs responded to my feedback they based

[junior ocean]

omg

[swift vault]

silliness agreed

[junior ocean]

mango have u hopped on deviator

[swift vault]

no but i saw Upslash gives momentum on enemies

that is PK max%

[midnight oasis]

State enhancement is so cool

[little jacinth]

Wth is that

[midnight oasis]

Wish it was better executed

Deviator mechanic

[little jacinth]

And what is deviator exactly?

[swift vault]

gamey

[midnight oasis]

Its like HK if it was cool

[little jacinth]

Hollow knight.io

[stiff depot]

hungry knight

[midnight oasis]

OH OH ALSO

I forgot

[stiff depot]

that's a mood

https://tenor.com/view/me-too-me-too-kid-incredibles-gif-19919940

[charred basalt]

balls

[charred silo]

[rocky crag]

Yall

This server is taking an L

Silksong better release or else

[midnight oasis]

Gamers when games take time

[gusty panther]

silksong is another story

[rocky crag]

Sup

Oh

[mint ruin]

GRUB

[sour schooner]

My friend played hollow knight for 20 minutes and decided they didn’t like it. They didn’t even get the first stag station.

[raw flame]

dirtmouth has got to be the second best hub music of any game

[raw flame]

damn that's unfortunate for them

[glossy meadow]

they must have a bad taste in games

[sour schooner]

The craziest thing is they don’t. Apparently they don’t like “sad” games and hollow knight has a sad atmosphere. I would think the word HOLLOW in the title would be a clue to that.

[glossy meadow]

They better continue playing the game

[sour schooner]

Apparently they also don’t like it because “the combat is too simple”. Says the person who hasn’t unlocked anything.

[glossy meadow]

they aint gonna say that when they reach the pantheon

[frigid island]

U should let them play what they like idk 🤷‍♀️

[sour schooner]

I would, it’s just that I didn’t even suggest it. And I don’t want it to be a waste for them

I was just playing it once and my friend thought it looked cool

So I feel guilty about that

[waxen crest]

Silksong is going to be great when it releases

(If)

[wind path]

You have to believe.

[frigid island]

https://tenor.com/view/parappa-parappa-the-rapper-parappa-meme-parappa-brain-parappa-when-gif-434270711465257444

[stuck hearth]

LMAOOOO the if in the bracket

[dapper crystal]

[late game spoilers] ummmm

[humble crown]

yeah sometimes he's just quirky like that

[delicate badge]

lmao

[frigid island]

https://tenor.com/view/hog-exploding-exploding-hog-funny-idiot-gif-13702011850125732811

[humble crown]

he's so me

[frigid island]

🥰

[brave herald]

😭

[native blaze]

Yo my internet just died

[wind path]

Good luck

[frigid island]

Is that celeste

[dull oracle]

Its celeste 64

[young otter]

I doubt there are that many celestes

I call bluff

[dull oracle]

Thats how many copies it sold actually

[flint surge]

I beat nkg

[devout kestrel]

I’ve seen it before

[brave herald]

How get?

It's too high up

[wind path]

jump higher

[cosmic hornet]

Fly

[wicked vector]

mmm oh yeah I will tell the tale of my first real experience of caffeine, so there was me tired on 3 hours of sleep I take a sippy of my coffee and boom I was functional for a full day 😄 🔥

[brave herald]

I'm trying D:

[wind path]

Must be nice not to have ADHD and have caffeine affect you.

[exotic mantle]

Bro why can markoths nails spawn off screen.

[wicked vector]

he sometimes forgets

y'know he could be spawning them always from the outside of your view but he is just too senile to keep up with that mentally

[night elk]

i finally did it, nkg was barable but this boss was just a pain in the ass

at least nkg has patterns but oblobbles are absolute randomness

[quartz siren]

Congrats

[plucky eagle]

yooo nice job

[night elk]

p2 mask bind

[night elk]

guys how long does it take to defeat pantheon 5 for an average guy?

not some speedrunner

[idle ledge]

35 mins maybe

[barren sable]

If you count training maybe weeks

[remote edge]

For me like 30 seconds maybe, IF i mess up a few times fr

[devout ginkgo]

The darksouls 1 claymore is so good

[plucky eagle]

idk like maybe 20-25 minutes ?

[brave herald]

Finally. Now for PV

[amber furnace]

I didn't see the meme channel

[lucid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-fnaf-security-breach-hello-chat-glamrock-freddy-hi-chat-gif-14414907544362536061

Hi

[plucky eagle]

hello

[lucid flame]

Hello

[meager jolt]

Hello!

[dull oracle]

Bye

[serene magnet]

İ think something wrong with my game

There is 1 mask shard is missing

[meager jolt]

Have you done the Flower Quest?

[serene magnet]

Yep

[dim tapir]

Mornen

[junior ocean]

cat

[meager jolt]

Maybe search a guide or something

indeed, thats a cat

[junior ocean]

proof?

[meager jolt]

Uhm

Its fluffy

[junior ocean]

[meager jolt]

And it has tail

And its fluffy

[dim tapir]

That cat is a L

[junior ocean]

im fluffy and i have a tail too iirc

[dim tapir]

Ba dum tsss 🥁

[meager jolt]

But you are Grub!

[junior ocean]

nuh uh

cat grub tbh

[serene magnet]

I looked at the videos and I'm confident I got all the parts shown

[junior ocean]

are you on pc

[meager jolt]

Me?

[junior ocean]

no

[meager jolt]

That is a cat for sure

[dim tapir]

It would be funny if u forgot one shard on sly's shop XD

[serene magnet]

İ got

[dim tapir]

A

[junior ocean]

cat

[meager jolt]

U must have forgotten something

[junior ocean]

are u on PC

[serene magnet]

Yep

[junior ocean]

https://reznormichael.github.io/hollow-knight-completion-check/

do that iirc

[serene magnet]

Oke

[junior ocean]

do u know where to find your save file?

[serene magnet]

doesnt get it from steam?

[junior ocean]

no u have to find the save file on ur PC and put it in

[serene magnet]

oh

[junior ocean]

I think it has an option for steam but I dont think so

?tag hkmodding saves

[river dome]

No tag hkmodding found.

[junior ocean]

?tag categories

[river dome]

Categories (6)

modding, info, speedrunning, fun, art, hkhelp

Use ?tag [category] [name] to show a tag

[junior ocean]

?tag modding saves

[river dome]

Save Files and Global Settings location
Note: some mod installers such as Lumafly have an Open saves folder button which allows you to find the save files easily. Otherwise, follow the steps below:
Windows:

• Press WindowsKey + R
• Copy & Paste this: %AppData%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight
• Press Enter

MacOS:

• Open Spotlight (Command + Space) and type terminal
• Press Enter to open the terminal
• Paste this into the terminal window: open ~/Library/Application\ Support/unity.Team\ Cherry.Hollow\ Knight/
• Press Enter

Linux:

• Using your preferred method, navigate to: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/

GamePass
C:/Users/%USERNAME%/AppData/Local/Packages
or %AppData%..\Local\Packages

[junior ocean]

that shows the path to ur save file

[serene magnet]

i found it

but which one

[junior ocean]

wdym

[junior ocean]

it should be "user(number).dat"

is your save on the first or second slot in game

[serene magnet]

1

[junior ocean]

then use "user1.dat"

[serene magnet]

WHAT

MOWLEK ????

İ WAS SURE İ KİLLED İT

[junior ocean]

[serene magnet]

I took a break for a while and remembered that I killed him

i got lifeblood core. whats next 😄

[trail bear]

Who's beat p5?

[little jacinth]

Me

[junior ocean]

most ppl in the server probably have

[dull oracle]

Eww Hollow Knight

[urban linden]

i reached phase 1C against any radiance, it took something like 3 hours

but i pressed the screenshot key and died :C

[marsh whale]

I heard that Deviator has a demo now

[marsh whale]

I watched a video abt it and the game looks goofy
Still I'll give it a try

[brave blaze]

2020 may be bad but theres always a light at the end of the tunnel. The light at the end of the tunnel:

[delicate badge]

i'm been tricked

[urban linden]

ahah, i have it saved too

[brave blaze]

Luna wth are you doing here

[urban linden]

me too

[lucid flame]

I've been here for a while

[brave blaze]

Lol

[lucid flame]

New kngiht

[delicate badge]

weclome to the server aer

[brave blaze]

I like hollow knight ok >:[

[brave blaze]

Thx

[lucid flame]

Hollow kinght

[brave blaze]

Kinght?

[lucid flame]

Kinght

[marsh whale]

Btw, did some of u play the demo?

[delicate badge]

knight

[lucid flame]

Kinght >:[

[delicate badge]

knight

[brave blaze]

😮‍💨 kinght

[lucid flame]

Kinght

[dire ore]

Knife f5

[brave blaze]

👌

[lucid flame]

Master chief

[brave blaze]

Master chef

[delicate badge]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-dance-isabelle-guys-bruh-gif-13221198

[marsh whale]

Mine now

[lucid flame]

Yes

[marsh whale]

So no one of you didn't try Deviator's demo?

[lucid flame]

None

[calm owl]

Finally

[little jacinth]

Hardest boss ever

[rose urchin]

Guys I just beat Hollow knight on steel soul

[chrome rose]

nice

guys my uncle tony just died, you might have heard of him, he got brutally speared by a noodlefly

[ocean schooner]

wtf is that charm loudout lmao

[ocean schooner]

that might have been me tho

i had to kill 12 scavs for my expedition

[ocean schooner]

now do steel heart

[calm owl]

(I don't answer the question about why i have the Game in spanish)

[ocean schooner]

why are u using dream shield and grimmchild

[chrome rose]

https://tenor.com/view/husk-alastor-hazbin-hotel-gif-13293807823596944920

[ocean schooner]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1117480660320399372/1201612088242606100/caption.gif

[calm owl]

Yes

[chrome rose]

a fate worse than death

[ocean schooner]

ok but W H Y

[ocean schooner]

(on stock loudout)

[calm owl]

https://tenor.com/view/sols-bug-jar-the-mind-electric-condemn-miracle-musical-tally-hall-gif-259800391958918912

[ocean schooner]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1117480660320399372/1201177849432920114/togif.gif

[chrome rose]

reeling

[calm owl]

(Hawaii part 2 reference)

[ocean schooner]

also beating dead cells only using the starting bow

[chrome rose]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mind-electric-hawaii-part-ii-hpii-miracle-musical-joe-hawley-gif-26110488

[calm owl]

For make esasiest posible

[ocean schooner]

ah yes. i love using horrible charms to make my game easier

[calm owl]

Im Dumb ok?

[chrome rose]

ahyes

[ocean schooner]

i have classified information: ss is not real

the ss is a lie.

[serene magnet]

i got void heart

whats next ? 😄

how to unclock pantheons ?

[little jacinth]

got godhome?

[serene magnet]

where?

[little jacinth]

somewhere in the sewers

[serene magnet]

i found it

[little jacinth]

open it, and fight the pantheons

[marsh whale]

You'll become a cringer

[serene magnet]

we have a little problem

i dont have key 😅

[elder wing]

I made a Hollow Knight Tier List for the Bosses! Do you agree or disagree? (I made this btw)

[frigid island]

Based on what

[elder wing]

best bosses in the game

what ya think?

[midnight oasis]

The Hollow Knight and Radiance are peak

Pure Vessel is funner gameplay wise tho

[muted quartz]

how is thk a cool fight

[serene magnet]

where can ı find a key ?

i cant enter godhome

[muted quartz]

pale lurker on colosseum drops one

[serene magnet]

behind the colosseum ? secret zone

[muted quartz]

yes

[serene magnet]

rip

[muted quartz]

if u already got it then u missed some key in the game

there's a simple key in
sly
city of tears
ancient basin
and the pale lurker

i think its only 4

[serene magnet]

city or basin then

[umbral vessel]

meow

[prime helm]

Woof!

[muted quartz]

moo

[little jacinth]

why are obblobles so high up?

[muted quartz]

wait yeah true

who the fuck like obbobles

i want these 2 fucking things to die permanently and never appear again in the game

[sour flicker]

Now that i suck at radiance professionally thk is just soul generation

I've managed to totally skip the second phase screech once

[muted quartz]

thk is like restarting a level all over again because you died to the boss

its annoying and not hard but just annoying

[sour flicker]

Now that i think of it

With my build it's faster than some back tracks

Ahem soul master ahem

[native blaze]

Hi guys

[native blaze]

I like the fight with thk anyways

[sour flicker]

hello random discord user

[sour flicker]

Did you do rad yet?

[native blaze]

Hello random person

[native blaze]

Yeah

[muted quartz]

woah

[sour flicker]

How are you not annoyed by thk

[native blaze]

I just need to do the pantheons now

[native blaze]

Idk, i love the fight with him, and it's fast so jot a problem

[sour flicker]

How did you do rad phase 3
I absolutely suck at it

[native blaze]

Bro, it just took some time

Keep trying and you'll get the attack patterns

Also, don't try to hit her at phase 3, just wait for her to come near you, and dogde the attacks

If you go agressively you'll die

Don't try to do it fast, take your time

[serene magnet]

what about phase 1

[native blaze]

Phase 1 is easy hahaha

[serene magnet]

yep

[sour flicker]

Other games fanbase when you're stuck on smth : "well you can do this, use that item, use this technique and you'll make it in no time"
Hollow knight fanbase when you're stuck on smth : "get good lmao"

[native blaze]

That's basically it, there's no item or charm that will make the fight easy

[sour flicker]

Besides like what, shaman stone/ub strength

[native blaze]

You just gotta remember the patterns and take it easy and slow

[native blaze]

I don't use spells:/

I use only the nail

[sour flicker]

I found abyss shriek works wonders on rad

[native blaze]

It's just preference, i do better with the nail only

[sour flicker]

Abyss shriek her 3 times on entry and you're already 300+dmg in without even starting

[native blaze]

Also, quick focus is very good with radiance

[sour flicker]

Ah yes healing
The way i die to radiance 90% of the time

[native blaze]

You can heal when she sends the spears from the top of the screen, you know?

And heal only 1 mask at time

You can't stay still for too ling against her

[sour flicker]

The moment i go below like 3 masks my monke brain just press the focus button then smth hits me

[native blaze]

Nah, don't do this

It's better to dodge the attacks than healing

You'll get it

[mint ruin]

what the hecc happened

[native blaze]

I took 3 hours to kill the nightmare king grimm

[mint ruin]

it took me longer

[native blaze]

He's more difficult than the radiance in my opinion

[mint ruin]

nah

i beat him radiant the day after i beat him norm

[native blaze]

The Radiance

Not grimm radiant

[stiff depot]

everybody gangsta till the absolute radiance title card showa

[native blaze]

Yeah, didn't fight her yet

I'm stuck in p4

[stiff depot]

it's my favourite ending

[mint ruin]

ik

bro i havent even beat p4

[stiff depot]

next time imma do no hit and toooooootaly not use invulnerability like that one dude

[mint ruin]

bruh

[stiff depot]

[native blaze]

Me neither

[stiff depot]

I love it when people get called out for cheating

[stiff depot]

[native blaze]

I read all the precets

[mint ruin]

same

[native blaze]

.....in dirtmputh

[mint ruin]

yeah

[native blaze]

3 times....thinking that something would happen

[mint ruin]

i read it 10 times out loud, put it in a google doc, and took a break from the game

[native blaze]

What's your favorite boss fight?

[mint ruin]

uhh

hornet 2 actually

[native blaze]

Really?; -;

I beat her first try

[mint ruin]

yeah

i just had to get used to the barbs

[native blaze]

My favourite one is Sisters of Battle

[mint ruin]

OHHHH

YOURE SO RIGHT

[native blaze]

Something about fighting 3 bosses at the same time, is just awsome

[mint ruin]

then massacring them

[native blaze]

Yep

[muted quartz]

sisters of battle its just a Ddark spam battle

[mint ruin]

yep...

twitch chat plays hollow knight: !communism !freeze !communism !nailsize30

[little jacinth]

Average hk boss fight

[muted quartz]

real

[little jacinth]

I frames abuse

[mint ruin]

what?-

[little jacinth]

Ddark should synergize with stalwarts

[mint ruin]

YES

IT SHOULD

also you should be able to pogo grimmchilds fireballs

[little jacinth]

It would be pure chaos

Pogo dream shield better

[mint ruin]

lol

[stiff depot]

I mean... if you wanna be more accurate... most battles are

[little jacinth]

Except for uumuu

[muted quartz]

ddark on every single boss on the game gotta be skill issue......

[stiff depot]

yeah uumuu is an abyss spam

[mint ruin]

uumuu is a meme at this point

[stiff depot]

lmao

[little jacinth]

Not using ddark is skill issue

[mint ruin]

"Uumuu? More like Uuwuu lol"

[stiff depot]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-kick-jjba-gif-13894493

[muted quartz]

i only use ddark mostly on sisters of battle, radiance and pure vessel

[stiff depot]

uumuu in the community be like

[mint ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hollow-knight-breakdance-gif-4991443249772973911

yall look its meee

[stiff depot]

I use all equally tho bosses like hollow knight and grim is mostly nail

[mint ruin]

NOOOO

[stiff depot]

OowoO what's this? fuggin dies

[mint ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-26171061

[stiff depot]

me talking to littterally anyone

[muted quartz]

i love Broken Uwu

[stiff depot]

Pure Jackson isn't real he can't hurt you

[mint ruin]

LOL

[mint ruin]

?

[muted quartz]

monomon

[stiff depot]

thats lurien

[little jacinth]

? HewwaH

[stiff depot]

dummy

lurien the teacher

[little jacinth]

Vespa the watcher

[muted quartz]

Radiance the teacher

[stiff depot]

herrah the mighty

[muted quartz]

The hollow hive knight

[stiff depot]

"these knights be hollow" - pale king or whatever idk

[little jacinth]

Pale prince

[muted quartz]

these knights are costing my great time -pale king

[stiff depot]

"yo dudes, the Radience is like, pretty chill and stuff, you should like, totally join it or something" - moss prophet

[muted quartz]

"little ghost, let me tell you a tale. a tale about silk and songs" - hornet

[stiff depot]

"SHAW" - some forgettable boss

[little jacinth]

The hollow knight is the final boss, and also the name of the game...

That means silksong is the name of the final boss?

[stiff depot]

it's like when movies say the movie title in the movie

n the credits roll

[muted quartz]

"Git gud!" - the hollow knight probably

[muted quartz]

his full name is Hollow knight silksong

[stiff depot]

lol, now all I can think of is him being served a court notice

[stiff depot]

https://tenor.com/view/turtz-franklinturtz-franklin-the-turtle-patrick-spongebob-gif-25312548

[native blaze]

I love that Hornet says GUARANÁ

[muted quartz]

spongebob me boy

[raw flame]

nah I didn't need to see that again

[stiff depot]

what about EDEDO

SHAW

GIT GUD

[alpine wave]

ADINO

[native blaze]

E Dolly

[muted quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-25277476

[little jacinth]

Like the soda

[serene magnet]

helow

what is bindings ?

[muted quartz]

a challenge basically for pantheons in godhome

[serene magnet]

yes

nail , soul .. what if i click

[molten moat]

I recommend asking in #hk-help so you dont get spoiled

[granite crane]

Basically restrictions that debuff some of your stats. For example the Nail Bindings, which makes it so that you do less damage with your Nail than normal.

[muted quartz]

then
nail - less damage on your nail
soul - max soul is 33
heart - 4 or 5 hp
charm - no charms

[ashen wadi]

by the time people are in godhome I kind of stop redirecting them

[little jacinth]

How can you spoil what a binding is?

[native blaze]

Litteraly the soda

[serene magnet]

hardcore :d

[molten moat]

Yeah maybe getting spoiled isnt that bad of a thing anymore

[muted quartz]

you can unlock lifeblood for pantheons which helps you complete them so its not that bad

and u can just do 1 per time

u dont need to do all of them at the same time

[molten moat]

Here people can say a lot of stuff beside the actual question and potentially spoil people

[native blaze]

Ham? How?

[ashen wadi]

by doing bindings

[native blaze]

Really?

[muted quartz]

8 bindings = 3 lifeblood
12 bindings = 4
16 bindings = 5 (max)

[native blaze]

So, you need 2 pantheons with all bindings for 3 lifeblood?

[ashen wadi]

or four with two, or any other combination

[native blaze]

I see

[little jacinth]

Yes

[muted quartz]

yeah

[little jacinth]

Not necessary at the same time

[native blaze]

I'm stuck on p4, maybe this will help me

[still valve]

is there any way to play the game in 21:9?

[native blaze]

OH, I CAN DO ONE BIND EACH TIME?

[muted quartz]

mhm

[ashen wadi]

yes

[little jacinth]

Yes, I did that

[native blaze]

😐

That's good to know, thanks....

NOW I BEAT P4

[little jacinth]

Lifeblood doesn't helps much in p1 to p4

[muted quartz]

still can help a little

[native blaze]

Off course yes, it's extra life

[little jacinth]

Yeah, like a small boost, but won't carry

[native blaze]

Yeah i know

[ashen wadi]

idk if I would really describe it as carrying in p5 either

[little jacinth]

It carries

[ashen wadi]

it's better in p5 for sure

[native blaze]

But, does it recharge every fight? The lifeblood

[little jacinth]

Won p5 the first time because of the 7 masks on markoth and gpz

[thorny glacier]

no it recharges every bench right?

idk i havent played ina while

[midnight oasis]

How many legs do the weavers have?

[ashen wadi]

there's a cocoon every bench

[native blaze]

I think that's with charms

[ashen wadi]

isn't it 6

[little jacinth]

No, just on every Bench

[midnight oasis]

Probably

[native blaze]

Oh

[ashen wadi]

symmetry is probably a safe assumption here

actually no need to assume

[still valve]

is anyone playing in 21:9? 3440x1440

[brave blaze]

Yo

[granite crane]

[still valve]

can you help me to get it run 21:9?

[stiff depot]

huh?

[covert current]

Go get the mod for it

[still valve]

got it. mod didnt helped me, i just changed hex code

mods only got me 2560x1080

[stiff depot]

sometimes sacrifices have to be made

play on a resolution that works

[peak token]

new foto

[sour flicker]

Don't

It breaks the game a bit

And makes it look cursed

[mortal sequoia]

I was playing video game music and my Mom really liked void heart 💀

[idle ledge]

W mom

[mortal sequoia]

fr

[stiff depot]

W void heart

[clear ibex]

silksong when

[stiff depot]

[muted quartz]

you're so portuguese

[stiff depot]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-of-plier-markiplier-hollow-knight-gif-24371028

[stiff depot]

no idea who you referring to

[muted quartz]

markplier

[stiff depot]

oh

[cosmic cave]

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

[muted quartz]

woah

[cosmic cave]

MY FAVORITE BOSS AND MY FAVORITE CHARM

[muted quartz]

your opnion sucks!!!

[cosmic cave]

IDC

[muted quartz]

0/10 cuz u cant breed narinder and the lamb

[cosmic cave]

Ah yes the gun update

[midnight oasis]

<@&283547423706447872>

[charred basalt]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[raw flame]

wtf happened

kachow

[brave blaze]

Why

[young otter]

what the fuck?

kachow

[vocal seal]

McQueen moment

[bright badger]

kachow??

why is there- nvm im not gonna ask

[smoky chasm]

where mod
Hand it over

[lucid flame]

ÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆ

[charred basalt]

the mod is carthingmod

[manic jolt]

hi

[jovial hull]

heilige sheisse

[undone chasm]

Nix are you German?

[jovial hull]

No

[undone chasm]

Was heilige sheisse german

[jovial hull]

German for Holy shit, yes.

[undone chasm]

Okay I'm not stupid at least

[brave blaze]

Hi nix

[jovial hull]

no comment

[undone chasm]

[jovial hull]

ok im sorry that was mean

[cosmic cave]

YO THIS IS OP

[young otter]

ooh

[cosmic cave]

Also I get 2 of them

[stuck latch]

Sunflower??? What the fu

[cosmic cave]

It is modded inscryption

[lone palm]

I don't want to hear the words "one piece" in a sentence ever again

[midnight oasis]

I have one piece of chocolate left would you like it

[humble crown]

can we get much higher

[undone chasm]

I hate the situation where there is one piece left but youre with 2

[lone palm]

ok, maybe I should change my mind

[cosmic cave]

I only got one piece of candy

[flint surge]

I finally beat radiance

[midnight oasis]

[cosmic cave]

[midnight oasis]

Congrats! (Unless it was AbsRad)

[flint surge]

Just normal rad

[midnight oasis]

The best version

[flint surge]

I beat nkg yesterday and rad today

I think I can say I’m good at hollow knight now

[cosmic cave]

Def better then me

[lone palm]

nice! ||now beat godhome||

[flint surge]

NUH UH

I’m working on it

[midnight oasis]

There is no joy in beating Godhome

[lone palm]

why

[midnight oasis]

First four pantheons are neat

[flint surge]

There is no silk song in ba sing se

[midnight oasis]

||P5 and ETV ||

[lone palm]

ok I don't want to go on another 30 minute rant on why ||Embrace the Void|| is actually good, I'll just say it in a summarized way

SEALED SIBLINGS IS TEN TIMES WORSE

[flint surge]

For me the best charm is ||steady body 😊||

[native blaze]

Thorns of agony>

[flint surge]

Nah steady body is better

[plucky eagle]

you’re correct

[native blaze]

Heavy blow is better than steady body

[flint surge]

I’m omw to do pantheon 3

[native blaze]

:/

[plucky eagle]

thorns is just bad
steady body is more dps

[native blaze]

Steady body is one of the wordt charms

[flint surge]

Alright I’m starting pantheon 3

[native blaze]

Good luck

[plucky eagle]

why

[native blaze]

Why would you use steady body instead of dream wildee for example?

[lone palm]

I'm sorry, steady body is better than dream wielder

[native blaze]

You don't make a build with steady body, you just fit it because you have notches unused

[native blaze]

Nah it's not, dream wielder is fucking awsome

[plucky eagle]

you can use both ?

[native blaze]

One hit and you an use 2 spels

[lone palm]

counterpoint: quick slash + steady body is BUSTED

[plucky eagle]

quickslash, strength, shamans, steady body, dream wielder

[native blaze]

But you don't make a build with one of these, you just use them because you have notches left

[plucky eagle]

dream wielder was my afterthought

[native blaze]

And sharp shadow?

[plucky eagle]

mid

[native blaze]

Nah one of the best charms

[plucky eagle]

sharp shadow is very mid imo

[midnight oasis]

Its actually a necessary ending

Its also got the fancy musical storytelling and doesn't present its ideas in a misleading way

[junior ocean]

carrot is based wtf

[native blaze]

Quick slash, strenght, sharp shadow and shamans are the best charms

[plucky eagle]

hi anika

[midnight oasis]

Unlike ETV its also presented to be a deliberately unsatisfying ending

DNM is what you should be aiming for

[junior ocean]

charm discussions are always so peak

[plucky eagle]

i can agree with everything but sharp shadow

[plucky eagle]

so true

[native blaze]

??? You litteraly turn a moviment ability into a combat ability

[junior ocean]

oh man

that is a very take

[midnight oasis]

It just doesn't do enough damage to justify using it

In pretty much every scenario just hitting the enemy with your nail or pogoing is better

[native blaze]

And also, there are some bosses that you can only dash trhough then with sharp shadow

[stuck latch]

sharp shadow is ehh i only ever used it with path of pain

[lone palm]

if I have one charm notch to spare in hollow knight, I will always, ALWAYS USE grubsong. but dreamwielder is forgettable to me

[native blaze]

Otherwise you get hit

[plucky eagle]

a movement ability that you can only use once every couple seconds for the same damage as your nail
with quickslash (+sb ) you could get like 5 hits off in the time sharp shadow can get off 1

[junior ocean]

name 1

[midnight oasis]

Just pogo?

[plucky eagle]

so true

[midnight oasis]

Does the exact same amount of damage (more if you are using strength) and serves the same function

[midnight oasis]

NKG

But doing that isn't ideal since you are doing less damage than if you hit it twice with your nail

[plucky eagle]

so true

[flint surge]

Made it to the first checkpoint in pantheon 3

[junior ocean]

u can dash through grimm without sharp shadow, and using sharp shadow puts u in a position to get less hits in usually

[native blaze]

Nighmare king grim, the gods seeker i don't remember the namez the one of the colesuem

[lone palm]

it's necessary purely because the devs needed a way to explain what happens to hornet if you don't dream nail the hollow knight

[midnight oasis]

NKG's diagnol-trail attack can't be dashed through directly without sharp shadow

[native blaze]

Yep

[midnight oasis]

Yeah thats... pretty reasonable

[junior ocean]

who dashes through that

[midnight oasis]

Not me but I saw Ceave Perspective do it so I noted that down because I like Ceave

[junior ocean]

true

or u can just pogo him twice and do more than double the damage that sharp shadow did

[native blaze]

And them you get hit by the fire he leaves

[junior ocean]

in every instance u can use sharp shadow, theres always a better option

[young otter]

this is the most incorrect statement I've ever seen

[junior ocean]

the fire is beside him not above him

[midnight oasis]

No you don't?

[flint surge]

DAMNIT I LOST TO ZOTE

[junior ocean]

anyway
Sharp shadow sucks
Sharp shadow is, in terms of combat, a crutch and a detriment. It has its uses in platforming, however in combat it often serves as a disadvantage, builds bad habits, and is frankly unneeded.

But it’s free damage
No it isn’t. strength does 32 damage sshadow does 21. You can’t attack and dash at the same time, so whenever you opt to dash through a boss you lose an opportunity that could’ve been spent hitting the boss and are put further from the boss, making retaliation more difficult. Furthermore, a dash takes 0.3 seconds to complete. Almost exactly the same time as it takes for a nail swing with quick slash. Due to how powerful and widely used quick slash and unbreakable strength are, I would consider it fair to consider those as the nail dps. This means that sharp shadow, when used perfectly, loses out on 11 damage every 1.5 seconds, or 7 damage per second. Another option would be using dashmaster to boost its damage to match unbreakable strength, meaning you can either pay 2 notches for 7 less dps, or 4 notches to equalize it. To put into perspective how much 7 dps is, you could kill nightmare king Grimm in 3.5 minutes if you did that much constant damage. Except you’re not doing that much damage, you’re losing it. So no, sharp shadow isn’t “free damage”, in fact, the less often you use it, the more damage you will do

But I can dash through big bosses and avoid hits
Which is, of course, a crutch. Every boss that can be dashed through with sharp shadow can be dashed through without. It’s purely a matter of playing more skillfully and timing your dash to avoid being hit. Of course, there are very particular scenarios in which sharp shadow does give an advantage. For example, dashing through god tamer beasts roll, as you can’t punish the attack regardless, though all those circumstances are highly situational and often still not enough damage to be worth using.

[young otter]

steady body keeps you close, maximizing DPS
heavy blow pushes enemies out of your reach so you can't hit them

[native blaze]

Sometimes you do, if he goes for the right and them to left

[junior ocean]

not sometimes- never

[midnight oasis]

Just move in a direction where he doesn't do that

[native blaze]

What are saying???

[midnight oasis]

Its fairly easy

[native blaze]

What if you're stuck in the wall?

[junior ocean]

wtf are u talking abt

[midnight oasis]

idk why you would position yourself there

Stay near the center, that's one of the first advice given when fighting NKG

[native blaze]

Sharp shadow is just awsome

Change my mind

[junior ocean]

its awesome at doing nothing 😍

[plucky eagle]

look up a couple messages

[plucky eagle]

just a few

[junior ocean]

hkdiscussion sharp shadow wall

[lone palm]

also, for some forsaken reason the game gives you an achievement for getting the ending, a separate one from the hollow knight's ending. WHY?! I don't feel accomplished for getting this ending, I just feel nothing. You just beat the true final boss of the game in DNM, you survived through the game's hardest challenge in ETV, and the other sole exception to the rule is THK, the ending that's deliberately designed to make you want a better conclusion. (plus that's the ending most people get when first beating the game, which is satisfying in its own way). Why in the world would there be TWO unsatisfying endings, each linked to an achievement?!

[midnight oasis]

P5 isn't the hardest challenge in the game

Its just boring

Its not particularly hard to get the Sealed Siblings achievement either

[native blaze]

Yeah

You can do it in like, 5 min

Than you can fight radiance

[midnight oasis]

Personally I felt like I stumbled into a neat little discovery when doing SS

And it actually makes sense to get an ending in the BET after doing the final boss rather than in a random sidequest

[lone palm]

I don't feel that. When I got the ending, I felt underwhelmed, because it was a refresh of the same ending I had witnessed prior, just with Hornet's corpse added.

[midnight oasis]

And ETV isn't a refresh of DNM?

[native blaze]

Also, sealed siblings is not a refresh

[midnight oasis]

It kinda is

[heady dew]

ETV best ending imo, but DNM has best final boss

[midnight oasis]

If you'd rank the endings I think SS would be below THK and DNM yeah

[native blaze]

I mean, after all there appears a seal of Hornet in the Black egg

[native blaze]

Yeah, but like, it's a good ending, not the best but it's a good ending

[midnight oasis]

Sealed Siblings?

[native blaze]

Yeah

[midnight oasis]

Yeah I think its fine its just not as good compared to the other two imo