hk-general

[grand oyster]

regional pricing

[inner marlin]

im talking on an xbox rn lol, i dont have a phone or computer currently so we struggling fr!

[storm wraith]

how do you..... HOW DO YOU TEXT ON DISCORD VIA XBOX

what kind of dark magic is that

[marsh sierra]

Dark magic

[grand oyster]

i hope you aren’t typing with a controller

[inner marlin]

im him snorts

but no, theres multiple ways

[storm wraith]

Oh yeah the browser

damn that sucks

[inner marlin]

theres something called quarrel which is like,,, discord on xbox except it sucks so dont ever use it

[inner marlin]

no, im using some random office keyboard i found in my closet

[storm wraith]

@inner marlin What's your favorite Sonic CD zone?

NO

okay

[inner marlin]

well take a guess

[storm wraith]

I'd say stardust speedway

[brave blaze]

Baf

[inner marlin]

actually its tied between that and metallic madness

[storm wraith]

I am a quartz quadrant enjoyer

[brave blaze]

Is green hills zone an option?

[storm wraith]

well if you wanna turn this into a favorite classic sonic zone sure

[brave blaze]

Playing solo squads fortnite rn

I have to lock in

[inner marlin]

the original sonic was honestly garbage for the most part

[storm wraith]

yeah sonic 1 sucked

IM LOOKING AT YOU LABYRINTH ZONE

[inner marlin]

absolutely real, star light zone is he only thing stopping me from absolutely hating it

[storm wraith]

I enjoyed scrap brain zone

it was a good challenge

[inner marlin]

okay well whats your favorite zone from sonic 2, since that game was actually solid imo

[storm wraith]

Damn

Mystic Cave

[inner marlin]

hmmmm

approved

[storm wraith]

What about yours?

[inner marlin]

chemical plant prob

[storm wraith]

valid

[inner marlin]

i havent actually played sonic 3 & knuckles so i wouldnt know about those games

[storm wraith]

Now for sonic 3 and knucks, I'd say hydrocity

[inner marlin]

lets skip over to adventure because that game is great, still havent done big's story or final tho

[storm wraith]

sure

I haven't played through adventure 2 yet tbf

[inner marlin]

i bought it but im saving it till i finish the final story

[storm wraith]

hmmm

[storm wraith]

Maybe final egg

Tunes were epic and the lightspeed attack was fun to use

[inner marlin]

i really hated the egg viper

like i absolutely despised it

so i prefer speed highway, its my favorite sonic zone of all time ngl

[storm wraith]

I lost 4 lives to it and I am not proud of that

[storm wraith]

Vaild

[inner marlin]

i lost all my lives and then some

thats the only boss fight in any of the sonic games i ever had any trouble with

[storm wraith]

What about unleashed? (I don't own any other sonic games)

[inner marlin]

havent finished it yet

i just started it, i think i did the first werehog zone and then stopped

[storm wraith]

I got to the China werehog level and haven't played through it yet

[inner marlin]

i got sonic forces and tried it because it seemed overhated but the story sucked and the final boss was a huge difficulty spike from the rest of the game which made me hate it ngl

[grand oyster]

forces is alright

oc maker is ok ig

[storm wraith]

frontiers seems interesting

[inner marlin]

they made all the characters look goofy as toh

[grand oyster]

i own it but haven’t touched it once

can’t tell you any opinions

[inner marlin]

it was overhyped by sega

[grand oyster]

sonic’s best game isn’t made by sonic team (sonic mania) so

[inner marlin]

the trailer showed all the old villains like chaos, metal and shadow come back also that guy from lost world and oooh new mystery villain and then bam shitty story for a shitty game

[inner marlin]

i havent played past the titanic monarch zone

[storm wraith]

I don't have money to buy mania so meh

[inner marlin]

banger game tho ngl

[storm wraith]

yeah

[grand oyster]

banger music

[inner marlin]

anyways im tired im sleeping, i doubt i'll talk in this server for another month

arrevederci or something

[grand oyster]

based

[opaque knoll]

I BEAT HORNET 2 FINALLY

[hasty monolith]

Whaaaat the faaack is this

I shouldn't have dreamnailed that......

[agile pasture]

Good luck :p

[warm acorn]

have fun

[grand oyster]

you found the greatest boss

[hasty monolith]

Yeahhhh I'm not beating that mf lmao

He spits out mini versions of himself??? Huhhh

[grand oyster]

well that’s unfortunate

[warm acorn]

you might need to come back to that boss later

[hasty monolith]

Yeah I definitely will

He'll be fun to beat eventually

[warm acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-stephens-vsauce-mind-on-isolation-gif-26028082

[heavy star]

i dont think this is true

[grand oyster]

he is fun 🤩

[hasty monolith]

Crazy?
I was crazy once
They locked me in a room
A rubber room

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1012970792927121408.gif?quality=lossless&size=48

[grand oyster]

pillow room

[heavy star]

psychotic

[hasty monolith]

I got an achievement saying spend one final moment with quirrel

UHHHHHHHHH

Man I'm gonna fucking cry if he dies

He's gone.... I only see his sword

Did he drown himself in the blue lake?

[heavy star]

nope hes sunk in th lake

well he lost his sword idk if he could defend himself to get out anywhere

he did i know it because john cherry from team cherry told me

[alpine wave]

WHYYY

I CANT EVEN GET TO ABSRAD TO INLOCK HER

[lament lynx]

RIP BOZO LAMKOOL

MOTHERFUCKERS DEAD 👨‍🦽👨‍🦽👨‍🦽🫡🫡🫡🦘🦘🦘🦘

[grand oyster]

your pfp is what happens to him i think

[lament lynx]

Hehehehaw

[alpine wave]

IVE NEVER STRUGGLED WITH P5 BUT TODAY I CANT EVEN REACH HER

[grand oyster]

take a break

[lament lynx]

Stop stressing

You're overworking yourself

Go do something productive like sleeping

[alpine wave]

I still need to unlock absrad for HOG

[lament lynx]

yeah but like.. take a break and go tread

[alpine wave]

Your right

I’ve been at this for 3 hours

[grand oyster]

the longer you go the worse you will get

[hasty monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/896224889692913736.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[wispy onyx]

Well damn

Come to think of it, I should prolly jump back and do Steelsoul

Already lost 2 attempts and good lord was number 1 kind of embarrassing

[young otter]

what if I told you that you can rematch it once you beat it, up to 10 times, and they get stronger after each win

[hasty monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/859796756111294474.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[young otter]

on the final iteration they deal e i g h t damage per hit

in other words, after you've obtained every mask shard, you'd be able to survive a hit with 1 mask remaining

and yes that is the highest amount of base damage from any attacks in the entire game

by a significant margin

[hasty monolith]

That's for the hk gods to do lol
I'm not good enough for that

[young otter]

yeahhhh

combined with his chaotic fight, definitely one hell of a doozy

[young otter]

if it's a cheat mod, yes

[plucky eagle]

depends on the mod imo

[vestal granite]

How the hell do I beat nosk

[torpid obsidian]

Hide under platform and let them go over your head

[vestal granite]

What charms

[plucky eagle]

what charms do you have

[vestal granite]

I'm using stalwart shell, shaman stone, and mark of pride rn

I should prob switch shell

[plucky eagle]

send screenshot of charms ?

[vestal granite]

I'll just tell you the good ones

[plucky eagle]

how many notches do you have

[vestal granite]

Soul twister, grubsong, nailmasters glory

8 notches

[plucky eagle]

imo switch out shell for spell twister

[plucky eagle]

he’s just a cocoon

[vestal granite]

Yo did he eat the kids???

What spell does the most damage shade soul, desending dark, or howling wraiths

[pastel heron]

mf does not care

[vestal granite]

Let's go I killed nosk

Everytime I've beat a boss it's been when I was tired af

[indigo cedar]

whats the best manga / anime character

[vestal granite]

Luffy🐐

[plucky eagle]

out of those descending dark iirc
but there is a more powerful spell

[vestal granite]

Shadow wraiths?

[plucky eagle]

everytime i make good progress in stuff it’s when i’m in vc lol

[plucky eagle]

game calls it abyss shriek but ye

[wide elbow]

🐪

[vestal granite]

GODDAMIT LEMM GET BACK TO YOUR SHOP I NEED MONEY FOR MY NAIL UPGRADE

[plucky eagle]

lol

talk to him at the fountain and he’ll go back

if you didn’t know that already

[vestal granite]

Spoke to him went to waterways for a sec to reload the map and he's back

I feel like 3k is enough

[plucky eagle]

probably

also hornet2 was a lot easier than i thought she would be lol

[vestal granite]

Okay I only needed 2k let's go

[plucky eagle]

desolate dive is so helpful

[quiet compass]

Here is off topic?

[plucky eagle]

yes off topic but you can talk about hollow knight here

[vestal granite]

I'm bad at timing my dive

Coiled nail looks cool

[quiet compass]

I completed the path of pain 10 minutes ago.

[plucky eagle]

nice

[quiet compass]

It was too difficult.

[plucky eagle]

old nail best nail

[quiet compass]

I spent 8 hours to complete both paths.

[plucky eagle]

final pop room is quite annoying

white palace has a lot of skips that make it pretty easy imo

[quiet compass]

I hadn't seen it (not in the path of pain), the other time it was very peaceful because of the Skips.

[plucky eagle]

ye i didn’t know about any skips when i first did white palace took me forever

[quiet compass]

I saw a guy complete the path of pain in 2 minutes...

[vestal granite]

I'm gonna try hornet 2 again

I'm tired rn so I might get it this time

[plucky eagle]

2 minutes is like insane (imo)
takes me like 10

[grand oyster]

just be faster i think

[quiet compass]

I died to her more than 20 times, I wish you good luck.

[vestal granite]

I died at least 50 times now

[plucky eagle]

yea she does that

[quiet compass]

He used some paths that no one would use (because obviously he would take damage).

[grand oyster]

pop what

[plucky eagle]

path of pain

[quiet compass]

It moves easily, the problem is the thorns it leaves in the air.

[grand oyster]

no pop what

[plucky eagle]

saws

[grand oyster]

you can swipe them with your mail and it’s pretty out of the way

[vestal granite]

The thorns aren't an issue hornet is the issue

[quiet compass]

My reflexes are very bad, I always die at least 15 times or 7 to Boss with this.

[grand oyster]

ok then uh dodge hornet she’s the easy part imo

it’s hornet 1 but not hornet 1

[quiet compass]

Most of the Bosses I killed were out of pure luck or desperation, since I was almost always at 1 life.

[plucky eagle]

imo best times to heal on hornet2 are when she throws nail (if you’re far enough away), when she does the circle silk thing, and when she staggers

[vestal granite]

I need extreme sleep deprivation for hornet

[grand oyster]

good thing everyone who plays this game is sleep deprived

weird fact but cool

[plucky eagle]

i’m worried for pantheons on low% tbh

[quiet compass]

For real

[quiet compass]

Pantheon is cool

[grand oyster]

gonna take hours

true!

[quiet compass]

I'm finishing the coliseum of fools first, there's only 1 wave left.

[grand oyster]

gl

[plucky eagle]

i honestly wish to restart the file just because it took so long to get dash
i wanna do it faster

[quiet compass]

Hollow knight killed me, I played 15 hours today alone. (Yes, I don't live.)

[grand oyster]

sounds like delaying pantheons but sure

[plucky eagle]

for sure

[vestal granite]

So close this time

[grand oyster]

how long did it take for dash do you have to skip something important

[plucky eagle]

12 and a half hours

[grand oyster]

for pantheon 1

[vestal granite]

I didn't even swap my charms yet

[grand oyster]

why did it take so long

[plucky eagle]

itemless blue lake shade skip is hard

[grand oyster]

do you skip VS my bad

[quiet compass]

The best pantheon is the hollownest.

[plucky eagle]

and also going through waterways 3 times is annoying lol

[plucky eagle]

yep, only spell you get is desolate dive

[quiet compass]

How do you invoke the pantheon?

[grand oyster]

wdym by invoke

[quiet compass]

I never saw him.

[plucky eagle]

special area in waterways

[quiet compass]

Bruh

[vestal granite]

Shit I got untired

[grand oyster]

hollownest is just long

[plucky eagle]

true

[quiet compass]

[quiet compass]

Is good

[grand oyster]

especially low% would prob take over 2 hours for a single p5 attempt

[vocal geode]

I like the second one

Just the oblobbles are annoying

[plucky eagle]

hhaaaaa
oh it’s gonna be so fun
when i die to pv or smth
and don’t unlock absrad

[vocal geode]

And marmu is boring

[quiet compass]

Your photo simply reminds me of those orange ghosts that killed me when I jumped to defeat the vessel...

[grand oyster]

you signed up for bad run iirc

will still be world record if you don’t restart you’re just procrastinating

[plucky eagle]

it won’t, people have done it before

[vocal geode]

Me when I tried lost kin without defender crest

[grand oyster]

sucks

[vestal granite]

HOLY FUCK I BEAT HER

[grand oyster]

top 10 prob

[vocal geode]

Who?

[grand oyster]

gg

[vestal granite]

Hornet 2

[plucky eagle]

true, not many people have done it (especially with the new lowest%)

[grand oyster]

hornet 3 when

[vestal granite]

Like I said I just need to be tired to beat bosses

[vocal geode]

I must admit I took over one hour and a half against her

[grand oyster]

there’s a lower% ?

[vestal granite]

There's another hornet fight somewhere else iirc

[grand oyster]

is skipping vs new or something

[plucky eagle]

it went from 47->45 iirc

[vocal geode]

No fight against hornet anymore

[plucky eagle]

yes saves a % on vs and on false knight

[grand oyster]

didn’t think about how false knight wasn’t required for pantheon?

[vocal geode]

Now she's you're friend for some reason

[plucky eagle]

you just have to stagger him to unlock in pantheon iirc

[grand oyster]

i know colo 3 was skippable but

[vocal geode]

It's because he can be skipped

[vocal geode]

Really?

[grand oyster]

i know he can be skipped but thought you had to actually beat for pantheon

[grand oyster]

yeah godtsmer is always in godhome

[vocal geode]

Colo is easier than P3

[plucky eagle]

same with vfk lol

[grand oyster]

idk i kinda accidentally first tried p3 when playing the first time but it took awhile for colo 3 so

[quiet compass]

I didn't kill the beetle and I didn't let that other one die in battle against a soldier from the queen's garden.

[grand oyster]

not shocked

[vocal geode]

It depends if you are more comfortable with bosses or swarms

[grand oyster]

i thought vs was 2% or is it only movement abilities that are 2%

[quiet compass]

But for now, nothing will surpass my feat of the path of pain. This was very important for

[plucky eagle]

only movement abilities are 2% yea

[quiet compass]

This helps a lot for Speedrun

[plucky eagle]

oh yea

[grand oyster]

forgot

[plucky eagle]

same

[grand oyster]

kinda forget you need voidheart for p5

[plucky eagle]

i’m keeping kingsoul until p5

[grand oyster]

fair

and abyss kinda look like a pain the less movement abilities you have

[plucky eagle]

only movement ability you don’t get is ismas iirc

[grand oyster]

oh

[quiet compass]

Is it important for me to transform the pure king amulet into a dark amulet?

[plucky eagle]

i’m over here tryna figure out what wings is used for lol

[grand oyster]

what you need wings for

wings is used for very little and uh it could be white palace?

[plucky eagle]

sadly grimm ruins the chances of no cdash

it could be white palace but you can do that without wings, vs is less %

[grand oyster]

you either have wings or VS so who knows

we found less percent so world record no matter what i think iirc

unless you can figure out what wings are actually for

[plucky eagle]

yea i was thinking maybe enraged guardian??
do you need that for p4 or smth ??

[grand oyster]

cause if it’s a certain version you run

[grand oyster]

maybe but i thought there was another way in there

[plucky eagle]

i play whatever version switch is on lol

oh you could probably shade skip up to enraged if needed

[grand oyster]

think it’s missing one patch from latest on pc

[plucky eagle]

yea it’s like 1.4.3.2 iirc

[grand oyster]

it’s missing a bug fix for absrad i think is that it

[vestal granite]

How do I get past this pool of tentacles in abyss I want my shadow cloak

[plucky eagle]

go up

you gotta turn on the light

[grand oyster]

fight the shades if you’re going for hunter journal btw they more annoying to find after

[plucky eagle]

i’m just gonna not get wings and see what i need it for

[grand oyster]

true!

casually find less percent

[plucky eagle]

might have to reset on white palace to get vs but like it’s fine

[grand oyster]

trying to think since game can be beaten without wings

prob absrad climb????

[plucky eagle]

ohh yea absrad climb

[vestal granite]

Okay one more place to go here and I'm gone

[grand oyster]

absrad sucks so i forgot

so you prob need wings for absrad unfortunately

at least you don’t have to reset

[vestal granite]

Where shadow shriek

[grand oyster]

go left

[plucky eagle]

right*

[vestal granite]

I'm in a room with a bunch of mouths

[plucky eagle]

go over the big lake

go the other direction

[grand oyster]

abyss shriek is all the way left

[plucky eagle]

but also use howling wraiths there

[grand oyster]

[vestal granite]

No I have the cloak I want my up soul ability upgrade

[plucky eagle]

i for some reason thought they were talking about shade cloak

[grand oyster]

yeah go all the way left in abyss

[plucky eagle]

yea all the way left and then use wraiths in the mouths room

[grand oyster]

use up spell cause i forgot what it’s called normally

[plucky eagle]

howling wraiths

[grand oyster]

true

[vestal granite]

GODDAMN THIS ABILITY HAS MASSIVE AOE

[grand oyster]

i think tas can avoid wings for absrad climb just do that carrot

[plucky eagle]

with shamans shriek deals the most damage iirc

[grand oyster]

it’s cool ability

[plucky eagle]

i’ll have to check and see if i need it when i eventually get to absrad on my normal pantheon file

[grand oyster]

you’ve never been to absrad

[plucky eagle]

haven’t beaten p3 yet

[grand oyster]

and you’re doing low% gh?

are you insane

[plucky eagle]

just starting it but like low% is fun

[grand oyster]

but yes you need wings for absrad climb i believe

[plucky eagle]

sad

[grand oyster]

absrad climb different than regular radiance climb cause the platforms

[plucky eagle]

ye

[grand oyster]

mid boss ruining your run

[plucky eagle]

[grand oyster]

yeah but you ready for 5 damage nail p5

i watched a run on low% gh i think actually

[plucky eagle]

i’ve seen someone do i 1 nail damage i got this

[grand oyster]

so true

[plucky eagle]

nice

[agile herald]

Hello

[grand oyster]

was a long time ago so prob old strats

[plucky eagle]

prob used vs

[plucky eagle]

hello !

[grand oyster]

idk i think p1 they trolled and use all bindings

[vestal granite]

Alr I got out of abyss and have my new abilities I'm hopping off

[grand oyster]

leaving on a good note and not rage quitting? wtf not true hk player

[vestal granite]

I don't rage quit

When I get pissed at something I leave it for later and get upgrades or fight other things

i.e. hornet 2

Anyway I'm out

[plucky eagle]

i mean it makes sense to do all bindings
barely affects you anyways

[grand oyster]

i was to unlock lifeblood

[plucky eagle]

yea

you do all bindings bc it barely affects you and you get lifeblood later on in p5

[grand oyster]

so i get why just soul binding kinda sucks

[plucky eagle]

true

soul binding is the only one that actually drastically affects you

[vocal geode]

Nail binding is the less annoying one

[grand oyster]

you lose one health for mask one damage for nail you don’t have charms anyways and then there’s soul binding

[vocal geode]

If you are bad at the game like me

[vocal geode]

Yeah but only if you are at the start

[plucky eagle]

actually nail damage remains the same lol

[grand oyster]

i was told it goes down by one damage who lied

[vocal geode]

With pure nail you lose 8 damage

[grand oyster]

[vocal geode]

21 to 13

[plucky eagle]

idk
it goes down to 13 iirc if it’s the same or less it stays the same it is

[grand oyster]

should go up to 13 instead

[plucky eagle]

true

[vocal geode]

If you have nail 0,1 or 2 it's a minus 80%

So old nail deal 1 damage

[plucky eagle]

that is not how it works lol

[vocal geode]

Yes it is

[plucky eagle]

5 damage is bad enough dont wanna have to deal with 1

[vocal geode]

Oh shoot I misanderstood

You go down to 80% not lose 80%

[plucky eagle]

yep

but if its 13 or below it stays the same

(iirc)

[vocal geode]

So yeah it's only one nail damge less for old nail

[grand oyster]

could be recalling wrong

[plucky eagle]

oh nevermind i was wrong

[vocal geode]

So you just need to mash spells anyway since you deal no damage

[plucky eagle]

it does go down to 4

[vocal geode]

4 is so low

[plucky eagle]

desolate dive !!

[grand oyster]

sad

[plucky eagle]

my one and only spell

[grand oyster]

true

the one that won’t be hitting absrad very often

[bronze ether]

Now I see why this is called off topic.

[vocal geode]

Just think that most of the bosses have more health in godhome

[grand oyster]

can hit some but not all the time

[plucky eagle]

yep

i mean at least desolate dive is iframes

[vocal geode]

Where's vengeful spirit ?

[grand oyster]

skipped

[vocal geode]

How

[bronze ether]

My brain is having problems trying to figure all that the normal way

[grand oyster]

shade skip

[plucky eagle]

itemless blue lake shade skip into fungal from waterways

which requires you to walk through waterways three times

[grand oyster]

ew waterways

[plucky eagle]

true

[grand oyster]

think you should skip all abilities

skip nail next time

lower %

[plucky eagle]

you go once to set up for the shade skip to get to the fungal lever, go back to use that shade for the shade skip, and then have to die again in fungal to be able to shade skip to the bench near mantis village

[plucky eagle]

i will do a minimum nail %
that’d be kinda funny

[grand oyster]

unfortunately you have the nail dreamers

uh grubsong carry i think

wait

can you spell jars

[plucky eagle]

i could do godhome ending

jars ??

[grand oyster]

grub jars

[plucky eagle]

ohh
uhm maybe

[grand oyster]

cause you prob want grubsong or other ways to get soul

kingsoul too late game to use practically

[plucky eagle]

i’ll check if i can spell grub jars soon

[grand oyster]

should only take a few minutes

[plucky eagle]

yea grubsong + weavers would actually be incredible

probably gotta get dnail as quickly as possible

[grand oyster]

nail use 🤓

[plucky eagle]

i was thinking regular nail
can’t do any endings if no dnail

[grand oyster]

can’t do endings if no nail

but yes i think that’s how the rule goes

radiance requires a nail swing

she literally won’t die without it

[plucky eagle]

am i allowed to use nail on gruz mother and aspid arena to be able to get to dreamshield

wont actually attack the aspids just gonna use the spikes

oh and i need nail for dirtmouth door

[grand oyster]

yes

damn king pass no nail is dead

i don’t think you can do save file shenanigans on switch to get godseeker file character on a new file

[plucky eagle]

possibly

i’m rly bad at glitches tho lol

[grand oyster]

but i don’t think a spell would open it i haven’t exactly tested

[plucky eagle]

it’s a little hard to test if spells would open the dirtmouth door lol

[next hawk]

pogopogo

[grand oyster]

debug maybe but you on switch so L

if i had hollow knight and mods installed i would check

[plucky eagle]

can dshield affect dreamers ?

[next hawk]

thats a good ahh question

[grand oyster]

only thing i know for sure is radiance final hit has to be a nail swing

[next hawk]

prob yes

thats true

[plucky eagle]

yea so probably just gonna have to do thk

[grand oyster]

well less swining required anyways

[plucky eagle]

problem with nailless is i need to open levers and doors and stuff

[grand oyster]

cant do 0 but i think there was a min nail damage run i saw

cause your first nail swing even if it wasn’t for king pass door would be aspid room

but you can avoid doing direct nail damage there

[plucky eagle]

my first nail damage would probably have to be on gruz mother and my shade

[grand oyster]

if that’s less than doing false knight skip and getting vs

[plucky eagle]

probably less

[grand oyster]

1 vs can take out all of the mini aspids after the fight

[plucky eagle]

18 hits on gruz mother + gruzzer hits + 2 direct hits on shade

[grand oyster]

yeah ig false knight is a little cringe

if it was one stagger like it was in my brain but i think it’s 2

but then vs room

[plucky eagle]

yea it’s 1 stagger so however many hits that takes plus vs room
though it could reduce gruz mother hits aswell

oh man false knight adds 21 nail hits if i do that

[grand oyster]

yeah cause it doesn’t count if you don’t hit him after the stagger right?

[plucky eagle]

what

[grand oyster]

the shortcut doesn’t open if you don’t hit him durijg the stagger does it?

[plucky eagle]

you gotta hit him to get him into the maggot phase, then hit the maggot

shortcut only opens up after you beat first stagger

[grand oyster]

cringe ruining the run team cherry

just play as hornet so it’s a needle not a nail i think

[plucky eagle]

true

[dim ravine]

I think there was this one dude who beat p5 with only thorns of agony

[vocal geode]

Only thorns as a source of damage ?

...

[grand oyster]

wtf cheating

[vocal geode]

Why am I in trouble in P3

[grand oyster]

🤬

[vocal geode]

Wait did he use baldur shell to avoid damage ?

[grand oyster]

already knew about absrad but yes that makes sense

[vocal geode]

How did he do it

You need to heal

[grand oyster]

baldur shell wouldn’t magically make you not take damage with thorns

[grand oyster]

grubsong

[vocal geode]

Thorns still activate even with baldur shell

[vocal geode]

It don't give enough soul to heal

[dim ravine]

Yeah mostly

[grand oyster]

that’s why @vocal geode

[opal jewel]

FC would've sucked so bad otherwise

[vocal geode]

Maybe deepfocus to heal enough

[opal jewel]

[grand oyster]

elegy gives more soul and deep focus heals more

wdym maybe

[vocal geode]

Yeah deep focus make sens

[grand oyster]

elegy and grubsong are the reason it’s even possible

[vocal geode]

2 hours run in perspective

[grand oyster]

don’t think you could possibly do it in a p5 though obviously

well wouldn’t you not have enough health for nkg

[vocal geode]

Yeah how do you do against double damage bosses?

Like nkg traitor lord PV and ABS rad

You don't deal damage when you fall in the void

Hold up

[grand oyster]

wdym hold up

[vocal geode]

Did contact damage is only one

Yeah but when you touch nkg without him attacking you

[grand oyster]

contact damage is 2 damage from nkg

[vocal geode]

But for failed champion I think it's only one

So other bosses might be easier than nkg

[grand oyster]

bosses are inconsistent 🤯

shocking news

[vocal geode]

Imagine if gpz was level 10

[dim ravine]

A lot of things in Hollow Knight are
That's why I love it so much

[grand oyster]

level 10 what

[dim ravine]

Level 10 golden statue

[grand oyster]

didn’t know there was levels in hk

[vocal geode]

You can fight gpz multiple Times and the 10th times it deals 8 MASKS OF DAMAGE

[grand oyster]

the irrelevant thing

[dim ravine]

Radiant Zote enters the chat (he deals infinite damage)

[grand oyster]

8 masks isn’t enough you have 9 health

[vocal geode]

First 3 times is only one and then it increase by one damage each time

[opal jewel]

As a poet once said

Masks off
Molly Percocet

[dim ravine]

Yeah but nobody shits on him

[vocal geode]

I think max is 5 for him

[dim ravine]

We need pure defender

[grand oyster]

he’s dung defender without desolate dive cheese but has ball cheese if you can juggle

well desolate dive isn’t technically cheese it’s intended but

you can beat all bosses with only a nail

the only thing you need to unlock in overworld is 3 dreamers for some reason

[opal jewel]

Not absrad

[grand oyster]

why not

[opal jewel]

You either need claw or wings

[grand oyster]

i mean for damage but whatever i guess

[opal jewel]

I mean you can do all bosses ingame itemless

Except absrad

[grand oyster]

absrad sucks

but what about normal radiance

[brave herald]

Yeah cuz of that one attack where a wall of light goes from one side of the arena to the other side. forced Shade cloak

[opal jewel]

I said either not both Anika

[glad tulip]

you can d dark

[grand oyster]

that’s what either means

[opal jewel]

You can tank then heal

Climb is straight up not doable

[grand oyster]

it’s literally cause climb sucks

[brave herald]

I thought we were talking about this like it's hitless + only nail and nothing else

[grand oyster]

not doable no items

[opal jewel]

That sounds so humanly viable

[grand oyster]

you’re mother is humanly viable

[opal jewel]

Don't you only have 5 masks and 3 heals?

You can only get hit 3 times

[plucky eagle]

wingless climb is possible ?
huh
neat

[grand oyster]

should do it at the end of p5 imo

[plucky eagle]

wait what are wings needed for then ??

[grand oyster]

do you have claw carrot?

[plucky eagle]

yea

[opal jewel]

I was talking about itemless from the beninging

[grand oyster]

carrot trying low% gh even though they have never beaten p5

trying to figure out why they get wings

[plucky eagle]

oh and that adds up to more than 2%?
it doesn’t need to be radiant btw just need it for like p5 and stuff

[grand oyster]

few is 3 so yes

ok then uh

how many hits would you have to take

[sharp pasture]

[plucky eagle]

if i was at full hp i’d live

[grand oyster]

ok then sounds like you can get the wr

you’re so cool

[tawdry fjord]

hello peoples

[plucky eagle]

will have to restart to get vs for white palace

[plucky eagle]

hello !!

[tawdry fjord]

ello there im an emissary from the rainworlders

just got the game about 5 minutes ago

[grand oyster]

this chat is likely to have spoilers so be careful

[tawdry fjord]

okey

[brisk mango]

Ieat people

[tawdry fjord]

also quick question what is silksong

[grand oyster]

an incoming sequel

[tawdry fjord]

cool

so like hk 2

[fluid kelp]

was gonna be a dlc for hollow knight where hornet was a playable character and they decided to make an entire sequel for it instead because "she was too big"

[grand oyster]

not really you play as a different character

[grand oyster]

fatass?

[fluid kelp]

YES

[tawdry fjord]

cool

lol

[low knoll]

what-

[dim ravine]

@tawdry fjord What do you consume

[dim ravine]

Perfect time consumer while we wait for Silksong

[leaden condor]

Hello, I just joined this server and i'm a modder for Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes (hence my name) and Pizza Tower. Since i've gotten into Hollow Knight, i've been recreating Hallownest in Pizza Tower. I also like Hollow Knight lore so theres that.

[plucky eagle]

welcome to the server

[leaden condor]

i would be posting art too but its not very high quality xd, i was never good at graphics, and for some reason i cant post images anyway

[grand oyster]

when you first join you can’t for a bit

[leaden condor]

oh ok

[plucky eagle]

ye it’s to prevent spamming and stuff like that iirc

[grand oyster]

doesn’t seem to work people are still annoying despite it

[plucky eagle]

[lethal bridge]

[opal jewel]

the role u have remove image perms

[vocal geode]

But at least you have baby hornet face next to your profile

Worth it

[opal jewel]

i'd like to have that rôle

image perms r poopoo anyways

[molten moat]

The role icon should be removed imo

[proven thorn]

hi chat

[molten moat]

[vocal geode]

It last 3 hours

[long pumice]

good morning

[proven thorn]

hi

[vocal geode]

Hi

[long pumice]

hows everyone

[vocal geode]

Good and you

[dull oracle]

suffering👍

[vocal geode]

Why

[dull oracle]

im sick

[vocal geode]

What do you have

[dull oracle]

my throat hurt my nose is runinng and coughing, allot of fun

[vocal geode]

Yeaaaah

Hope it goes away quickly

[proven thorn]

sick

[dull oracle]

🫵

[long pumice]

SAME

[proven thorn]

you're also sick plus you're bad at insults

[tacit slate]

GUYS I BEAT P5

THIS TOOK ME SO LONG

[weary hound]

Can we all agree vessels are cool?

[weary hound]

LESGOOOO

[tacit slate]

Abseloutly

[tacit slate]

I knowww

[dull oracle]

touché

[tacit slate]

Im going for PoP now

[weary hound]

Good luck

[tacit slate]

Thx

[weary hound]

I woke up supportive today ngl

[tacit slate]

Can we all agree that soul sanctum is annoying af?

[weary hound]

Yes

[tacit slate]

[tacit slate]

Whats your favorite

[weary hound]

I love that emote but at the same time it makes my eyes feel weird because i dislike getting stuff on my eyes (i played and still play a lot of a game that put a lot of stuff in the characters eyes and even if i still can play it i often feel weird if i think too much)

[weary hound]

Broken vessel/lost kin :D

[tacit slate]

Respect

Also you are correct

But i just adore pure vessel

[weary hound]

I want to one day make a cosplay of The Knight and later of The Hollow Knight/Pure Vessel, i would wish more to make one of Broken Vessel/Lost Kin but duuudee the head would be so hard to balance, it would be too heavy

[noble hearth]

Ima do that next year for Halloween

[potent nest]

Carioca

I gonna try to beat the p4 all charms

[icy bolt]

Happy egg:D

[delicate badge]

awwwwwwwww

[young sluice]

Scramble it

Make an omelette

[delicate badge]

Nooo let the egg live

[rotund swift]

holow knight!

woohoo!

kinda wholesome?!?

[scenic frost]

You mean hollowsome

[delicate sigil]

laugh track plays

[scenic frost]

You're goddamn right

[crystal aspen]

cannot be real man

😭 IT WAS GOOD MUSIC OKAY

THE DOG

i hope christopher larkin is proud of my ass

city of tears

[violet chasm]

roll the egg

[icy bolt]

I ate the happy egg

[violet chasm]

city of tears

[icy bolt]

Now I am happy

[violet chasm]

i like hard boiled eggs

except for when they break during the boiling process

[icy bolt]

I fried it

I fried the happy egg

I fried the happy egg's brother as well

[wispy onyx]

Extra tasty

Unlike the last time I fried eggs one of them was already expired and didn't noticed it until it was too late

[icy bolt]

He had a "C2" face

[long pumice]

how does that happen

[icy bolt]

C2 means "Second Sort"

[grand oyster]

add 2

[icy bolt]

No

I am too dumb to do it

[scenic frost]

Make egg go boom

[wispy onyx]

Egg white was just a liquid and it all smelled like sh-t

[dim ravine]

Matilda from Angry Birds

[wispy onyx]

Worst part is: that was the 2nd egg I cracked

So my fried eggs were ruined that day

[long pumice]

Yeah I hope you threw that out immediately

[wispy onyx]

I did

[dim ravine]

It is
I bet she participated in ww2

[grand oyster]

matilda old design >>> new design

[wispy onyx]

I miss the fact she turned into a raisin every time she dropped an egg

[grand oyster]

also she’s less gender roled

[dim ravine]

Somebody didn't learn his history lessons
Very easily mistaken

[dim ravine]

Wait Mods wait

I'm innocent

I was being silly

[grand oyster]

i thought that was pop

[solemn brook]

is this taking into account the fact that FC's health on first stagger has 20 more health than the other two

[dim ravine]

Close enough

[noble hearth]

Wrong chat

[weak wyvern]

the best creature ever

[granite crane]

Good video, but minus points for tiktok watermark because zotespin

[sand spade]

Man I loved in hk when Radiance was like "It's Radiance time" and proceeded to radiance all over the place

[swift vault]

minus points lol

[weak wyvern]

help me ive become obsessed with the tiktok account that posts these cat videos

:(

[swift vault]

cat

[weak wyvern]

I DONT KNOW WHY BUT I LOVE THESE VIDEOS SO MUCH

AAAAA

[swift vault]

the Cat noises

[granite crane]

Reasonable.

[granite crane]

Almost top tier video. But tiktok watermark bleaching my eyes.

[weak wyvern]

cant do much abt it, sorry :(

[granite crane]

Don't worry, I don't really care about it to be honest,

[swift vault]

[brave blaze]

the cat barks i love her

[scenic frost]

https://tenor.com/view/cursed-emoji-fist-emoji-crying-emoji-emoji-fist-gif-20999569

[delicate sigil]

Mango!

[swift vault]

[delicate sigil]

... Hmm... where did I remembe- OH YEAH-

MAN I LOVED WHEN GRIMM SAID ITS "GRIMM TIME" AND GRIMMED ALL OVER THE PLACE.

[sand spade]

IKR

[delicate sigil]

YEAH

[sand spade]

AND WHEN PLAE KING SAID "IT'S PALE KING TIME" AND PALE KINGED ALL OVER THE PLACE

[delicate sigil]

I LOVED WHEN HERRAH SAID "ITS HERRAH TIME" AND HERRAHED ALL OVER THE PLACE

[sand spade]

I FUCKING KNOW

[delicate sigil]

YEAAAAAA

[delicate sigil]

I LOVED WHEN WHITE LADY SAID-

[twin hemlock]

Zote

[sand spade]

OR WHEN ZOTE SAID "IT'S ZOTE TIME" AND PROCEEDED TO ZOTE ALL OVER THE PLACE

[delicate sigil]

YEAAAAAHHHH

[sand spade]

[scenic frost]

She purifying my nail till I feel the blade's exquisite edge

[opal jewel]

You mean the palace*

[sand spade]

True

[scenic frost]

I loved it when The Hollow Knight said "I am the hollow knight... that sounded a lot better in my head"

[wary cradle]

what are the best charms for watcher knights?

[sand spade]

Best moment in the entire movie

[scenic frost]

I loved it when Hornet said "No little ghost, I will follow my silksong! Ooh that's good I should trademark that."

[sand spade]

Ikr

[proven thorn]

if it was Hollow, then how did it think or talk

checkmate liberals

[scenic frost]

True

[vagrant reef]

Yeah best moment

[cunning nimbus]

a warrior hacks into the speakers of a base he's attacking, what music would be more intimidating to hear: heavy metal music or classical music like mozart

[scenic frost]

Polka music

That would be the most intimidating

[brave blaze]

just died doing p5 while radiance teleported up

[granite crane]

That is real pain.

[brave blaze]

indeed

[granite crane]

If you struggle with bosses, go practice them in Hall of Gods.

[brave blaze]

i dont

i only suck at beating absolute radiance

[lyric niche]

Then practice her

In hall of gods

[brave blaze]

ima try

[warm acorn]

o7

[bleak ether]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-stone-ocean-jojos-bizarre-adventure-part6-cmoon-gif-26731719

[scenic frost]

c moon

[bleak ether]

cmoon

[brave blaze]

cmoon

[leaden condor]

since i cant post low effort art content in #hk-art-gallery , is there anywhere i can put it

[vagrant scroll]

I'm finally at the point where I can beat AbsRad around 30-40% of the time in HoG

not sure if I'm ready for P5 yet but I'm definitely feeling pretty good about it

[swift vault]

do it until you do not get nervous

[vagrant scroll]

I'm mostly at that point. the climb is one thing that catches me up sometimes

the final phase I've got down pretty solidly

the open-platforms phase (i.e. right before the climb) is definitely the most unpredictable part

[rigid zenith]

Steam's telling me I need a controller to play hk :p

steam cant controll me

[swift vault]

yea this one can be tricky to learn well

[rigid zenith]

I'll play on a potato just to spite it

[vagrant scroll]

with the first few phases (i.e. up until AbsRad gets pulled into the void), I feel mostly OK, I just sometimes get badly nailed by double sword walls (i.e. horizontal and then immediately vertical)

[grand oyster]

controllers are for people

[vagrant scroll]

but the bit with AbsRad in the middle and swords coming down, I never get hit there

[swift vault]

the climb you doing the Dash Strat or just jumping close to the plats?

[vagrant scroll]

I'm still trying out both

[swift vault]

cool

[vagrant scroll]

I might turn on the climb practice mod

[swift vault]

true there is a mod for that

[vagrant scroll]

at this point I've beaten AbsRad like 10 times in HoG so I feel justified in being able to practice that way

[rigid zenith]

I'm not gonna sit at my pc and not use my keyboard

besides I suck at controller my dyslexic monkey hands can never find the right button

[brave blaze]

anyone ever doing a randomizer and see a dream nail behind a dream tree

[swift vault]

True this is Cursed

[brave blaze]

or like wings at the end of path of pain

that one is way worse

[swift vault]

oh my O.O yea clawless is possible but wingless i never saw

[granite crane]

Still trying, still trying.

[young sluice]

Heya

How y’all doing?

[short sinew]

Well dupes are a thing for a reason… you have 6 dreamnails with them

[young sluice]

😔

🇫🇷🥖🇫🇷🥖

[dull oracle]

Ew fr@#nc

[swift vault]

do you have the Grimm music?
i want it

[granite crane]

What Grimm music?

[swift vault]

the first one

i got Sealed Vessel music but not that one

[young sluice]

Vive la revolution

[granite crane]

I also got Sealed Vessel music, I guess.

I think I should get the Charm Notch from Grimm if I continure to lose to The Radiance.

[vocal geode]

...

[mild light]

https://tenor.com/view/vocaloid-traffic-jam-gif-26541484

[swift vault]

Shriek Spam

[mild light]

BASED

[vocal geode]

Encore
Ça fait beaucoup là non?

[young sluice]

NIOUTT

[granite crane]

Well, then sometimes orbs fly after me without me seeing it, because they sometimes spawn behind the Shriek sprite animation.

[young sluice]

Napoleon

[vocal geode]

Never seen someone so hyped to see me

[granite crane]

Well, I can try though.

[young sluice]

HALLO

[vocal geode]

Bruh it's deutsch

[granite crane]

I always shriek Radiance sometimes on my attempts though, but not enough I think.

[swift vault]

that is fine get Floor Phase as fast as possible, Plats with the strat i showed before is really easy, climb is not that hard because the beams are slow and one final hit should be fine

[granite crane]

Alright, I will!

[young sluice]

Je ne parle pas panzer

[vocal geode]

Hate deutdch

I am so bad at it

[young sluice]

🍻

That’s deutch

[vocal geode]

Pls don't

[granite crane]

The Charm Builds I usually use are: Joni's, Soul Eater, Spell Twister or Joni's, Lifeblood Core, Spell Twister, Grubsong.

[young sluice]

Dont what?

[granite crane]

Anything, I should change?

[vocal geode]

I've got 7/20 last year in deutsch

[swift vault]

Soul Eater not help much please no

[granite crane]

I only have 10 notches.

[granite crane]

Good to know.

[young sluice]

Tell the teacher that you’ll run them over with napoleons guard

VIVE LA FRANCE

[swift vault]

i have put Stalwart Shell because it is better than Grubsong but you need that extra notch

[granite crane]

Fine, I will speedrun getting those flames, right now.

[swift vault]

Fireb0rn used Shaman Stone on his clear lol
i still think Joni is safer

[swift vault]

but technically good RNG Joni could be replaced

[vocal geode]

why a big glitchy grubfather?

[swift vault]

dunno lol

[swift vault]

when ya got to plats...how many hits you got on Floor Phase?

[vagrant scroll]

100% yes

[swift vault]

depending you can get Shaman Speedkill O.O

a 2 hit Floor Phase is a easy win on God Rad

[vagrant scroll]

I keep forgetting that (I think) y'all are talking about a mod

vs. regular AbsRad/NKG fights

I'll look that up

I'm still doing the regular game at this point; the only mods I've added are for Bindings/P5 practice

[granite crane]

I don't remember. I was to focused, so I forgot to count them.

[swift vault]

you were using Core?

[plucky eagle]

hello mango !!
will not be able to see your response until later but do you know what wings are used for for godhome ending ?

[vagrant scroll]

once I beat P5 I'll look into other things, although I'll probably do another full run first; I'm getting exhausted with Godhome at this point

[granite crane]

Yes, two the times when I reached plats, I used Core.

[swift vault]

"What wings are used" i do not get it

[granite crane]

[swift vault]

so you can take Joni off and try shaman and get good RNG for a 2 hit Floor Phase

Four Shrieks almost end the Floor Phase

should be fine

[vagrant scroll]

hrm. from just looking at a video I don't think this mod is for me 🙃

I've heard that Pale Court is also a big step up in difficulty

[swift vault]

what Carrot meant with "what wings are used" lol

[granite crane]

I will think about that.

[granite crane]

Yeah, I somehow struggled on Hegemol, for some weird reason. And I have not beaten him yet. But I am focusing on God Soul now, so probably I will continue that mod some other time.

[vagrant scroll]

is there any 'full conversion'-type mod that is not particularly more difficult than the base game?

[swift vault]

it must be something for low% GE but i do not get it, you do not take wings for GE?

[granite crane]

If you have seen Mystic Zemer, well, your reaction will be: or

[granite crane]

I don't know.

[swift vault]

ak 47 mod

[vagrant scroll]

lawl

[granite crane]

Never was really into gun mods.

[vagrant scroll]

I'm definitely going to try it out

[swift vault]

it makes the game easier lol

[vagrant scroll]

it just feels like a lot of mods were specifically made to be more challenging than the base game

[swift vault]

yea makes sense

[granite crane]

Well, good luck on Hegemol and the bosses after that. Isma and Dryaa arent that hard though.

[vagrant scroll]

and like, I'm getting there, but I still don't feel like I'm at that point

(partially because I haven't beaten P5 / finished HoG on Radiant)

[granite crane]

I agree a lot.

[granite crane]

Makes sense. Oh no, sherm- shermas- shermasmirk...

By the way, I need three more flames and then I am on Grimm.

[swift vault]

still need that Grimm music ...

i found one with only 30 seconds

[vagrant scroll]

so I experienced a weird Grimm (NKG) thing recently, wondering if other folks can relate:

I can beat NKG pretty consistently in his regular arena/HoG, but I'd always choke when I got to him in P5 and couldn't figure out why

then I read a suggestion about turning the music down, and that ended up being the trick I needed for P5

[scenic frost]

I remember you talking about this the other day

It's because you got used to playing along to the rhythm of the music

Like a rhythm game

The music is different in pantheons

[swift vault]

because no Deep Focus Build

[vagrant scroll]

yeah, and I wish I could use the Pantheon music in HoG

[scenic frost]

Simple solution: Turn volume off and manually play the music on your phone or smth during HoG

[vagrant scroll]

a lot of online comments ask for the opposite, which I can also see, but I'm already used to psyching myself up with the Pantheon music so I'd rather get that in HOG

[vagrant scroll]

that too

PV has the same music

I know o_O

what I mean is, if you're practicing PV in HOG, the music is the same as it is in P4/P5, so you don't need to turn it down if it's distracting/because it's different

specifically for ME, at least, I had to do this for NKG in P5 because I was used to the rhythm of his regular/HoG music, which he doesn't have in P5

I do appreciate that Sisters Of Battle have the same music in HoG/P5, because it's fantastic

I just wish that Winged Nosk used the regular music in P5, because I love that music

[granite crane]

I have reached the Grimm bossfight. Any charm build you recommend?

[swift vault]

i think Cranky show what they had, i do not remember what i used lol

[granite crane]

Alright, I may watch the video. Hope I won't get deadly combos all the time.

[swift vault]

this one is bit overwhelming sometimes at least i found the combos more than the Radiance combos because you cannot speedkill

Ddark is more efficient in this fight though, knowing where to use it can be good

[granite crane]

Reasonable. Palehmm fits on that message.

[granite crane]

Perfect!

[swift vault]

Good luck

[plucky eagle]

what are wings used for to complete godhome ending ?
because i want to know if i can skip them lol

[swift vault]

OHHHHHH well makes sense i will search

[plucky eagle]

mk cool ping me when you got answer because going offline again

[minor karma]

do you need wings to get to some of the bosses

[swift vault]

not necessarly

[minor karma]

i havent played in a while so i dont remember

[swift vault]

i would say you can get it without wings but i will make sure first

[young sluice]

I love this sticker

[vagrant scroll]

G̷͆̀R̸̊͑U̸̩͗B̷͐̂F̸̈́̐Ȁ̴̈́T̵͒HER

[leaden condor]

city room 1 in pizza tower

[vagrant scroll]

UnHeart in D rank?

[leaden condor]

how dare you put strength in A

also fragile charms arent worse than normal charms

[vagrant scroll]

I also feel like Soul Eater should not be that high; it takes up way too many notches

and MoP > Longnail

[brave blaze]

theyre not worse theyre just kind of annoying sometimes imo

[leaden condor]

and also heart is definitely a really good charm, its 2 extra masks that are permanent, unlike lifeblood

[vagrant scroll]

also Void Heart is kinda pointless to have in that list because it's permequipped

[leaden condor]

also void heart shouldnt really be included its not really a charm lol

[brave blaze]

and makes me play in an overly panicky/cautious playstyle lmao

[leaden condor]

feel like half the charms in C deserve D

[brave blaze]

i think its funny how voidheart gets an actual ranking and is in c tier

[vagrant scroll]

Glowing Womb < Weaversong, the Weavers don't drain your soul and can pair with Grubsong to GIVE you soul

[brave blaze]

and is above baldur shell

[leaden condor]

and soul catcher isnt very great, deserves B

[brave blaze]

yeahh

[vagrant scroll]

some of this definitely is influenced by whether you do a spell vs nail build but, yeah, a lot of this should get switched around IMO

[leaden condor]

im so triggered that strength is low

i would say strength is 2nd best charm

[brave blaze]

ngl

[leaden condor]

and why is mark of pride below long nail? i guess notches are just 1 more but mmm

[vagrant scroll]

GOOD

[brave blaze]

i had to google its name i forgot what it was called

[vagrant scroll]

also no comment from OP so possibly a troll

[brave blaze]

anyways i love sharp shadow

[brave blaze]

nah lmao he could just have a silly opinion

[leaden condor]

canon pale king:

[brave blaze]

ou me oh my

[midnight oasis]

This list feels halfway between an actual tierlist and a meme tierlist

[vagrant scroll]

I did for the longest time and then switched it out while putting together a floorless Markoth build

and ever since then I haven't used it

[brave blaze]

floorless????

[vagrant scroll]

P5 / Ascended Markoth's arena has no floor

[brave blaze]

do you just keep pogoing markoth and his shield

[leaden condor]

ascended markoth:

[midnight oasis]

It has some respectable opinions but then pulls stuff out like womb above spell twister and steady body, or sharp shadow in A tier

[brave blaze]

oh true

forgot about that lmao

[vagrant scroll]

also Sharp Shadow made me regularly collide with PV after hitting them, so I'd stagger them but then also get whacked

[brave blaze]

i think sharp shadow deserves an A tier i think its fun

[vagrant scroll]

at this point the only thing I really like it for is dashing through NKG's uppercut, since it spaces you out between the falling flames

[midnight oasis]

To each their own

[brave blaze]

although

[midnight oasis]

In terms of practicality though I will say there's not much situations where its favorable to using the nail

[brave blaze]

only in fights lmao its annoying when the dash is too long and i hit spikes