hk-general

[glass escarp]

Oh boooooo

[lusty lava]

wrong, xbox u need steel soul

[glass escarp]

Why does ps get baby treatment I want baby treatment

[lusty lava]

ok just for you I'll do 100% steel soul after p5

[glass escarp]

I'm honored

[half wren]

Winged nosk got me

[lusty lava]

for reference
no soulsborne game has a higher than 8 platinum difficulty (afaik)

[lusty lava]

hold on you're not quin

imposter?

[glass escarp]

No quins the poser

It's just lengthy

[midnight oasis]

the 9/10 doesn't come from difficulty, rather boredom

[glass escarp]

Also depends on how good you are at pantheons

[lusty lava]

ma'am you're good at the game now, think about the children that have to do p5

[eternal jungle]

its not boring

[glass escarp]

Ughhh hollow knight sucks they should have stopped at hungry knight. That is when they peaked.

[wheat maple]

I just remembered the one vid I watched where the person had gone all the way through the game in steel soul mode only to die to Radiance during the climb..

I'd of cried.

[lusty lava]

that'd take 4x more time than p5 itself

[lusty lava]

imagine that's absrad

I'm not that autistic

[woeful mountain]

And theres also steel soul if u really wanna torture urself lol
(Sry uve probably done it already :<)

[lusty lava]

read like 3 messages up

[midnight oasis]

[lusty lava]

LMAO

[woeful mountain]

:(

[lusty lava]

guys they got internet in hallownest

[woeful mountain]

Wassup

[wheat maple]

😭😭 rip

Thats when I would just give up tbh

[midnight oasis]

Broken Vessel best fight imo

[lusty lava]

I'd give up on life

[wheat maple]

Same 😭

[midnight oasis]

AbsRad deaths dont actually kill you in steel soul iirc

[woeful mountain]

Was bored of ancient basin so i climbed up to dirtmouth and stole elderbug's wifi lol

[lusty lava]

"oh i died to absrad, thank god it's godhome and i don't actua-"
GAME OVER.

[lusty lava]

it does, absrad and radiance and white palace do that

unless tc changed it

[midnight oasis]

No I think its only lifeblood core room, normal radiance, and white palace

[wheat maple]

The farthest I've made it on steel soul is up to the mantis lords

[lusty lava]

then i must be misremembering

out here spreading misinformation like grev 🔥

[midnight oasis]

[wheat maple]

I wouldnt bother with radiance on steel soul not gonna lie

Not worth the risk

[lusty lava]

i have 3345 messages in this server after only 18 days that's a bit absurd in my book

reference: been in a server for 2 years but only have 20k~

why would it

[lusty lava]

pv is harder than radiance

to get good at, at least

[wheat maple]

Yes he is lol

[lusty lava]

yeah why would it, it's nothing special

yk what i mean

the charm no one uses

or even remembers the name of

heck i didn't even know what it's called, i call it the left of joni charm

[wheat maple]

I cant remember the last time I had lifeblood equipped tbh

[lusty lava]

when you were unlocking left of joni

dreamnail him for free essence

[alpine wave]

Did u try getting good?

[lusty lava]

did you try not being unfunny

[alpine wave]

I wasn’t joking tho

[lusty lava]

bro i can't tell bug gender
and joni sounds like a guy name

[wheat maple]

Probs the only time I had it on lmao

[midnight oasis]

Joni doesn't have a confirmed gender AFAIK

[lusty lava]

eh I'll keep thinking it's a guy cuz I've been like that for 4 years

[alpine wave]

Also

[lusty lava]

pov: you meet collector

[alpine wave]

I have TWO achievements left

[midnight oasis]

Not one in canon material I dont think, tho the original backer suggestion was female

[alpine wave]

Mr mushroom and zote in the Colo.

[lusty lava]

suggestion
we don't care

[lusty lava]

the latter is an achievement?

[alpine wave]

Yes

[lusty lava]

that's weird, pc got some strange stuff

[alpine wave]

Somehow I’ve beaten GPZ at Bretta’s house but I havnt fight him in Colo

[lusty lava]

wait how

that's now how timelines work

[midnight oasis]

?

[wheat maple]

Have you beaten radiance on steel soul?

[alpine wave]

I was fighting him in godhome and it gave my the achievement for no reason

[alpine wave]

Yes

Don’t worry

I’ll fight GPZ legitemly..

It’s a official speedrun category so that’s cool

[midnight oasis]

I dont think anyone really cares

So yeah

Joni's a dead bozo anyways lets talk about the gender of someone cool

[alpine wave]

What about the Knight?

[midnight oasis]

She sure is a girl

[alpine wave]

Enby knight

[midnight oasis]

Too cool to care about gender

[alpine wave]

ONG

SHADE SKIP IS CANON

[midnight oasis]

plenty of siblings to use for that

now where would it get the nail

[alpine wave]

I just told my friend I have 2 achevments left

He has 41 left

:000

Yoooo female infected waifu

I’m gonna say something controversial

112 and the hunters journal are harder then p5.

[jovial hull]

liquid nitrogen temperature take imo

[dim chasm]

I Agree

[woeful mountain]

I have yet to finish trial of the fool lol
||(Also no way is that uzi from the famous series md omg :0)||

[alpine wave]

This was my first time beating it

[lament lynx]

112% leads to P5..

[alpine wave]

Colo 3 is harder than p5.

[lament lynx]

how

[alpine wave]

If u disagree…

BITE ME!

[lament lynx]

I'm going to pull out a comically sized robot raptor

[alpine wave]

I’ve beaten p5 5 times

[woeful mountain]

She said the thing omg :0

[alpine wave]

Ok, this was actually my SECOND time doing Colo 3

[lament lynx]

Colo 3s hardest thing is God tamer

actually j take that back

The floorless part of colo3 is harder than God tamer

yep

[woeful mountain]

I started my first steel soul run yesterday btw

Pure vessel and absradiance probably

[lament lynx]

I lost my first steel soul run to a miner bug

I got too cocky while at 2 masks

BTW I've done 112% and currently making a second 112% save

[woeful mountain]

Plot twist he died in steel soul to infected myla lol

[lament lynx]

Imagine

[woeful mountain]

(Sry @alpine wave for reposting ur meme :<)

[alpine wave]

Me entering markoth on one hp:

Then I win

He ain’t that hard

[lament lynx]

I just rush markoth

that's the problem

[alpine wave]

Just save soul for second phase

Then SCREAMMMM

[valid falcon]

Excuse me?

[eternal jungle]

bruh

[valid falcon]

Blacklisted for a reason

[jovial linden]

no

[valid falcon]

no dude

You can’t say slurs here

[lament lynx]

this server is messed up 😭🙏

[eternal jungle]

the man is just one of those trolls

that just dont care and cause trouble for mods

[woeful mountain]

abyss shriek go raaawwrrr

[valid falcon]

As a black moderator

[jovial linden]

It's this excuse again

[valid falcon]

Yeah I can

[jovial linden]

Joker pls

[eternal jungle]

yes so your big brain goes I'm just gonna ignore all T & C and ToS and everything else

[valid falcon]

just don’t say it

not that hard

[jovial linden]

alright

[valid falcon]

you can try

[eternal jungle]

with that logic just go murder whoever and you just can because your a person

[lament lynx]

so based

[woeful mountain]

Hornet be smol :3

[valid falcon]

ok

[eternal jungle]

frfr your the biggest brain here

[valid falcon]

ok

[eternal jungle]

yes yes we should all be super selfish

[valid falcon]

Just follow rules

not that deep

Welp

I warned you

[eternal jungle]

sure

[lament lynx]

there is nothing we can do

[jovial hull]

Mute, mute, mute, mute

[eternal jungle]

ofc whatever you say

[lament lynx]

WILL JOKER BAN ?!?!

[jovial hull]

Joker ban a member speedrun wr wtf

[agile pasture]

What da hell is happening here

[jovial hull]

Just a mute

[eternal jungle]

boboker W?

[jovial hull]

JOKER MUTE A MEMBER SPEEDRUN WR

[lament lynx]

a master baiter is trolling
Jk they ain't a master at allthis

[eternal jungle]

aw

[eternal jungle]

master baiter...

[agile pasture]

A master what now?

[lament lynx]

baiting

[agile pasture]

Ok

[jovial linden]

anyway

[eternal jungle]

at this point just ban ppl like this speedrun

[jovial hull]

fish, stop.

[agile pasture]

So much hornet

[eternal jungle]

they don't change

[lament lynx]

what would happen if people just ignored trolls

[jovial hull]

[eternal jungle]

probably not

[jovial hull]

probably idk @brave blaze help iirc

[lament lynx]

I forgor

[eternal jungle]

like you would need to not get hit and hit all flukes maybe but idk

[jovial hull]

(code for: I never knew)

[eternal jungle]

someone get the numbers out

[lament lynx]

[jovial hull]

it'd be really difficult to calculate bc fluke lingering

[eternal jungle]

ik but just do a technicality

like if all linger and flukes hit and you dont get hit when casting

then the time

[brave blaze]

Ew bad channel

[eternal jungle]

bonk.io

https://tenor.com/view/bonkio-game-gif-gif-4743208720410294131

[flint tiger]

Dude so i play with a health bar mod

And i fuck just died to abs rad when she had like, less than a quarter of her health

[soft plover]

[flint tiger]

Ive notices

Also why i said less than lol

That and also it was physically less then a quarter with the mod

I would post the video but 1. Dont got nitro anymore and 2. I literally let out a screech of pain at the end

Like

Fuck man

I was legit shaking lmfao

P5

Its the last achievement i need

Oh as in its better or worse lol

For me id say p5 abs rad is worse then rad abs rad cuz its like

U can at least spam attempts a bit right

But yeah ive been working on this for like, a year

Nah this attempt i didnt

I was kinda psyched out a bit, but i did have full health

I know i have plenty lol

I had to fight the bitch with the bindings on

Not at the same time, cuz i value my existence but

Each individually

So that i could get the 5 lifeblood

Nah

I just mean PV

I did all the pantheons before with bindings to upgrade the lifeblood core

[umbral vessel]

its so hard to keep lifeblood sometimes cuz i can get really careless and damage tank

[flint tiger]

I do the same

For me i just lost my health during Pv cuz i got carless

Moved too early during spikes mostly

Me? I think i can do abs rad, though tips are appreciated

Its like, a big thing for me is when i have defeats like this, i tend to be able to come back stronger and do it the next day but i still just like got so pissed

Hmm i mean mostly with phase two and the balls

Most of phase one is fine if im not an idiot but its like, the balls on the platforms

Yes lol

I try to do that, but i get so greedy lol

Yeah i knoww but like… i like when i kill the thing and it bleeds lmfao but yeah fr tho, i will try it

Its something i had to force myself to learn with Pv is just take it slow

Hmm alright

I do think i got this

I just gotta play smarter and just

Take a fuckin break and just do it tomorrow

Thank you sm

[hexed pulsar]

just got steel soul and speed 2 ach

speed completion is another beast 🥶

[lusty lava]

tge unfortunate part about hk on consoles is that after you do 113% and steel soul you basically have nothing else to do in the game 😔

[half halo]

113%?

[lusty lava]

can't properly do those

[half halo]

🤨

[lusty lava]

112% + p5

[half halo]

Oh.

[lusty lava]

i provided context

[half halo]

P5 isn't a percentage imo.

[lusty lava]

ykw I'll not not reply

[half halo]

Ping in general.

[lusty lava]

yeah p5 is not a percentage, that's why I'm counting it

[half halo]

I even snail the posts with everyone pings in #hk-announcements.

[lusty lava]

why no ping

[half halo]

Because that's the first emote that came to my mind.

[half halo]

Because I kinda sorta don't like pings.

[lusty lava]

and why is that

[half halo]

Everyone will get confused now.

[half halo]

Idk, I just don't.

[lusty lava]

you're confusing everyone with the snail buddy

[delicate badge]

quaso

[half halo]

I mean the people who know what snail means.

[lusty lava]

-oro and mato

[half halo]

Gwnj!!!!!!!!!!!!

[delicate badge]

Jay!!!!!!!!

[half halo]

True.

[swift vault]

Yea it is :D
you can also use Debug mod as Anika said, let me know when you beat it it`s cool

[burnt heath]

But not insulting, not confusing, and thats what we want to achieve

[grim prairie]

where is the %

or does it not show on steel soul

[swift vault]

just noticed....Mango have not fought NKG yet
i will have to go back at Godsoul after 1 P5 (°ー°〃)

[half halo]

No he said we need to achieve confusion.

[plucky eagle]

hi mango !!

[swift vault]

[swift vault]

Quirrel pog seems more like a surprised expression heh ( for me )

[plucky eagle]

gonna start on the ‘bingo board’ quest list soon
i can have lantern when i do no hit joni’s right

[swift vault]

yea i did not restrict that
i will remember this in the future

[plucky eagle]

ok cool i’m bad at dark rooms lol

[swift vault]

Dark Joni is useful?
i will have to add Bald Dark nest in the playlist

[naive orbit]

Dafu-

Modding help?

[plucky eagle]

markoth only pogo gonna be kinda hard aswell lol

[long pumice]

morning hk offtopic

[swift vault]

old nail gonna take a lil while
you can have as many masks as possible if you can get them

[plucky eagle]

morning poki !!

[long pumice]

hey carrot!!

hi mangoo!!

how's everyone?

what's the topic

[plucky eagle]

yea most masks are easy to get so i’ll just get all 9 and maybe strength before i do markoth

[swift vault]

Modding? no it is a Speedrunning Skips playlist guides
this will be really late vid tho

Am really curious about the route
the things i chose will make you loop in a very different way compared to normal Any%

you will probably end with a quite high %

[swift vault]

heya i have not noticed my bwad

cannot say as others but am doin well!
the topic? dunno

[long pumice]

Glad you're doing well :D

[plucky eagle]

probably yea
do i have to do everything in order ?

[swift vault]

and yayayayayaya? am tired....kinda rude of me

[plucky eagle]

i’m doing well !
how are you ?

[long pumice]

don't worry, you should rest when you get the chance

[long pumice]

I just woke up, feeling a bit lazy but doing good

[swift vault]

order? you just said you can choose but some requires other goals
QGA Requires wings but watcher knights is before wings so you can see that as this

[swift vault]

🤯

[plucky eagle]

ye just making sure

[swift vault]

if i could i would sleep 4 times....no this lazy is not allowed

[long pumice]

you should sleep 4 times if you could, it's just your body needing extra rest from extra hard work

No need to feel guilty or perceive it as laziness, it's totally valid

[swift vault]

that is too nice (￢ω￢)

you all deserve more

[long pumice]

you also deserve a lot, make sure to not be too hard on yourself about these things, needing sleep is totally valid

hi anika

[swift vault]

oh my
True 👍 cannot deny

[long pumice]

I'm actually starting to wonder if the 🤯,🙀 are just sarcastic cause whatever I'm saying it's ridiculously obvious

[swift vault]

uhh the first is because i lack of it because i play a bit too much
dunno why the cat tho

i agree! i am the stupid of not doing something so basic

[long pumice]

Nahh you're not stupid. You're just ambitious, after all you only want what's best and you're willing to work hard to achieve it, but remember that your body also needs rest and needs to be taken care of

It's quite easy to forget about such basic details but after all it's quite common and totally valid to do so from time to time, what really sets the difference it's doing something about it or not

[swift vault]

yes i see well what you mean
i will sure not worry much and let things go easy

Thanks for the messages

[long pumice]

no need to thank me, I just felt like you could use it, in any case it's silly of me to have assumed

[lusty lava]

problem: i am lazy
what do

[long pumice]

I personally believe there's no such thing as laziness, just lack of motivation

[lusty lava]

that's what laziness is tho

I don't have anything to do either way

anika why are you awake

ma'am it's 9am

[long pumice]

I'm like...downloading genshin...impact........

my friend convinced me to download it on pc like i played it on my tablet last year it wasn't that bad but it got rlly laggy

so i uninstalled, haven't played in almost a year so I'm gonna make a new account

[twin hemlock]

I still have my account from like week 2 of the game being released

I played it for a bit and then quit for like a year after that lol

Then it's been on and off like every patch

[long pumice]

I didn't have a good enough phone when it first released, i wanted it sooo badd though.

[long pumice]

Valid

[twin hemlock]

Tho now i'm pretty much off genshin for a while

Like I summoned for nahida on her rerun, got her, then refused to play because sumeru sucks

[long pumice]

i only got to Inazuma cause fr sumeru has to be the laggiest

Only time i went there was for the Lisa skin

[twin hemlock]

I lied I summoned for neuvilette but didn't get him

[long pumice]

I have a friend who got shogun in 12 pulls I'll forever be jealous of him for it

[twin hemlock]

I have a friend who did a similar thing with her too

Then i have one who got 2 furina in 2 pulls

[long pumice]

Can't forget a friend who got like 3 5stars in one day

not rlly a friend, it was my gf at the time

but I'll forever be jealous of her too

[twin hemlock]

Fr like where's my luck at

[long pumice]

FR genshin's gacha system it's broken imo

[twin hemlock]

I can't be too upset tho, I've only ever lost 1 50/50, which happened to be my first 5 star lol

Granted I Don't have all that many 5 stars but it's cool

[long pumice]

I still have no idea how the pity system works tbh

[twin hemlock]

90 summons guarantees a 5 star

[long pumice]

I have 0 five stars cause i played for like 3 months but yea it just didn't work out

[twin hemlock]

Then if it's the first 5 star after a new character, it's a 50/50 shot on it being a new character or a standard banner character

[long pumice]

AH that was the most simplified explanation someone's ever given me abt it

[twin hemlock]

If you lose than 50/50, you're guaranteed the new 5 star within the next 90 summons

if you win that 50/50, the cycle restarts

[long pumice]

OHHH YEAH MAKES SENSE

[twin hemlock]

I should say headliner instead of new character tho, cuz reruns exist

[long pumice]

THANKS??? I actually got it??

[twin hemlock]

Np

[long pumice]

I'll forever be thankful of you cause I've always wanted to understand how that thing worked

[twin hemlock]

There's a little more to it but that's the basics

[long pumice]

yeah i can imagine

[long pumice]

Wait same

We have the same timezone

It's so hard to find ppl with my timezone for some reason, probably cause i always engage with people from america

[twin hemlock]

I'm in the est so it's damn near 3:00 am rn

[long pumice]

It's Sunday feel free to pull that all nighter

[twin hemlock]

Fair enough

But also sleeping after being heavily sleep deprived feels so good

Exactly

[long pumice]

Fair, i stayed up till 6am binge watching the Persona3 movies

most exquisite sleep of my life

I can't watch videos cause that would slow down the download so now I'm here being miserable eating cake

I don't even like chocolate

I don't like sweet stuff that much at all,

I don't like food at all

Yeah you get it

yeah some food is alright

[toxic nova]

then don't eat it?

[long pumice]

ended up hospitalized from that

[steel elk]

[torpid obsidian]

Go to sleep gn

[low escarp]

Guys I found smth in the hollow knight silksong trailer no one has found!

When hornet kills this enemy there is this pop-up of a bug is this the hunter of silksong?!

If you can't see it well

Here

[rich radish]

If you had an ai that just did completely random inputs in the game would they eventually beat it

Like its unlikely but would it be possible

By unlikely I mean impossible but theoretically possible

[low escarp]

I mean

Ai doing random inputs in the game?

I mean it could beat the game if you get lucky

[brave blaze]

Wouldnt need AI if it doesnt learn

[low escarp]

You could just upgrade the ai

To actually play the game normally

[brave blaze]

But i mean, it should theoretically work

[low escarp]

Yeah

But that's entirely luck if the ai doesn't know a single thing

In the game

But if it does

If may be

It is possible

If it actually has some sort of knowledge

Might die a bit

But it still theoretically possible

[brave blaze]

Wouldnt be very exciting or interesting tho lol. You should technically be able to teach a bot how to do like, any% or smth with enough time tho, that would be kinda cool

[low escarp]

Yeah that would be cool but it might just think the enemy is moving right when it's moving left thats the issue with ai

But guys you saw the thing I said

I found some cool thing in the silksong trailer

[brave blaze]

Oh right the rng, dont know enough about machine learning to know if and how it would handle that correctly sadly

[low escarp]

It's like a hunter thingy when hornet kills an enemy I haven't seen anyone talk about it

Alright did everyone teleport to the backrooms😭

Why Is no one talking they just left

https://tenor.com/view/googas-wet-wet-cat-dead-chat-dead-chat-xd-gif-20820186

Alright ima play some hollow knight

[blazing gyro]

[steel elk]

i love omori music

[opal jewel]

I like recycling

I think it's pretty cool

Now the waste is still not recycled but at least I feel good!

[normal phoenix]

im late but rng manipulation?

[shy wind]

i've just beaten Watcher Knight for the first time in only 2 tries

[normal phoenix]

nice

abilities

[shy wind]

thought they was much harder though

[normal phoenix]

also u shuld do the harder ending not the normal one :tf:

jk jk

there's just one

[finite pivot]

People

I'm finally one of the cool guys

112%

[normal phoenix]

did you 112%+ p5

• all ac

[finite pivot]

Working on that

[normal phoenix]

abs rad too hard

[finite pivot]

I've done most of the radiant bosses

[normal phoenix]

why am i standing here just to suffer

[normal phoenix]

oh an italian

[finite pivot]

Yup

[normal phoenix]

a quindi a abs rad non sei arrivato

[finite pivot]

No, ci sto lavorando per il 5 patheon

[normal phoenix]

ti giuro che con i nomi in italiano non so quale boss è quale

[finite pivot]

Sono arrivato a nkg

[normal phoenix]

usa quick heal per quella porzione

[opal jewel]

[finite pivot]

Better to talk in english

[normal phoenix]

oh sorry

[finite pivot]

Server rules

[normal phoenix]

oops

[opal jewel]

I mean I can read Italian but it's better not too methinks

[normal phoenix]

damn the italian translaitons seem stupid af lol

but they're correct

probably somthing with how i learnt english

and how i learnt italian

[finite pivot]

Anyway, i arrived once to nkg, but when i tried again floorless markoth made my hp low and the grey prince killed me

[normal phoenix]

lol happend to me too

[hearty stump]

@gaunt geyser WOOO

[normal phoenix]

anyways i was sick fora while and then i had a chess turnament to prepare for anndd im ultra unused now

[hearty stump]

FUCK U GRIMM

[normal phoenix]

lol another eeveevolution

[hearty stump]

huh

dam

[normal phoenix]

anyways ur gonna have to fight him in p5 (aka stronger)

and no free soul to start the fight

with

[hearty stump]

he easier in p5 thou

[normal phoenix]

idk i just use quick heal

[hearty stump]

grimchild don't gotta be there and I think he got less health

so it's easier

[delicate sigil]

W.

[hearty stump]

anyways Grimm is dead yippe

one less greedy bitch

[delicate sigil]

Yippee Kai yay

[normal phoenix]

oh lol

i frogor

also what p u at

[hearty stump]

3

[normal phoenix]

im at 5 and i hate abs rad so much because of the reasons i said before

[hearty stump]

that fucking helicopter saw lil man is fucking me up

that and zote

[normal phoenix]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/882158475621314611/899307463701037096/nice.gif

[finite pivot]

I am thinking about a way to fight radiant Markoth, but i haven't tried It yet

[normal phoenix]

nah bro dont

im pretty sure u dont need void idol 3 for hunter's journal

[hearty stump]

anyways now I got 109% 🔥

[finite pivot]

Keep dodging and use the second grub's charm

[normal phoenix]

or do you?

[hearty stump]

nope

cuz ion got that

and I got the mark

[normal phoenix]

i got 100% on steelsoul

in less than 20 h

https://tenor.com/view/neco-arc-neco-arc-fate-cat-gif-1748062773671823114

[finite pivot]

What do You people think?

[hearty stump]

okbro

[normal phoenix]

btw im hating myself coz im unused to hk

[hearty stump]

grubburflys elegy ain't the best charm from what I've heard

[normal phoenix]

i aint writing allat again (reason why)

[normal phoenix]

nah dude elegy i dont like

https://tenor.com/view/googas-wet-wet-cat-dead-chat-dead-chat-xd-gif-20820186

also i just made a hk meme in 2 minutes lol

jolteon?

@hearty stump

[hearty stump]

huh

[normal phoenix]

check thes meme i mad in 2 mins out

[steel elk]

drawing iterators is such a pain in the ass

[normal phoenix]

prob shoul'dnt have posted this her nvm

[normal phoenix]

what that

[steel elk]

Saint and Silver of straw both from rain world

[normal phoenix]

ooh stray cats

[steel elk]

Slug cats

[normal phoenix]

kkk im not rlly into rain worl

so ima stop talk else ima say something else stupid

also what is this [december division]

[delicate sigil]

Why did I think there was a smudge on my screen-

[normal phoenix]

lol

gotem

[delicate sigil]

:/

[muted gorge]

yo

[normal phoenix]

yo

[delicate sigil]

Yo-Yo?

https://tenor.com/view/hey-there-play-with-me-gif-2514637248313932849

[proper nova]

WHY TF IS SOUL TYRANT SO HARD TO BEAT UWAAA T_T

[finite pivot]

Update: I died to pure Vessel in Pantheon 5 T-T

[delicate sigil]

..... The next one has been chosen.

[muted gorge]

Gg

1 hour going to waste we uuup

[delicate sigil]

What I'm going to say is-

I died to pure vessel like 10 times or more before I actually reached Radiance.

[muted gorge]

And worst thing is that you dir to radiance after that

[delicate sigil]

I don't care-

As long as I reached her, But the fucking White head halted me each time.

[delicate sigil]

Just focus-

You'll get through.

[muted gorge]

Honestly absolute radiance is the worst

[muted gorge]

I did on 4th try its just a soul master but faster

Try upgrading your abilities before fighting it

[delicate sigil]

I can barely get to second phase-

[muted gorge]

[delicate sigil]

Or third phase, I DONT KNOW HOW THEY DO THE PHASES.

[muted gorge]

Rip

[delicate sigil]

2nd try, I choked on Desperate phase.

[delicate sigil]

My friend had to literally guide me in order to upgrade my shade soul-

Cause I was fighting people like failed champion with regular soul blast-

[delicate sigil]

What do you hate most about her?

[wispy onyx]

Soul Tyrant my beloved

So far my fav dream boss

(you can already tell who goes in 2nd place)

[delicate sigil]

Markoth?

[muted gorge]

all of the phases

[muted gorge]

ffs

[brave blaze]

YEEEE

[delicate sigil]

SORRY I'M STUPID- .. I actually won tho-

[wispy onyx]

No no, not that hellspawn

[delicate sigil]

.... Failed Champion?

[wispy onyx]

Eh, close enough (failed champ takes 3rd place for me)

[delicate sigil]

Marmu?

[wispy onyx]

Was talking of that one

You know

The one everyone inevitably talks about

[delicate sigil]

.... Besides Markoth I'm drawing blanks.

[delicate sigil]

Uhhh.... Xero?

[noble hearth]

Henlo

[wispy onyx]

The one with the funni song that slaps way too hard

If I say his name Imma summon s fuckin' tsunami here

You see

[delicate sigil]

Gorb?

[wispy onyx]

Alrish, here goes nothing

This mf:

[delicate sigil]

NKG-

HOW WAS I WAS SUPPOSED TO GUESS HIM OF ALL BOSSES-

[noble hearth]

His song slaps

That’s how

[noble hearth]

See?

[delicate sigil]

My mind was completely in a different place-

[noble hearth]

NO

[delicate sigil]

So I forgo that NKG WAS a dream boss.

[wispy onyx]

It's the guy everyone talks about one way or another

[delicate sigil]

I was thinking of the annoying asf bosses-

[wispy onyx]

I was talking about my fav dream bosses mate

What did you expect?

[gaunt geyser]

Markoth

[wispy onyx]

Nah fam that's my 2nd most hated boss

Besides I'm pretty sure there's a difference between these bosses:

[wispy onyx]

And these ones:

[delicate sigil]

"DOMA DOMA DOMA!!!" -White defender

[half wren]

I ACTUALLY LIKE NKG NOW

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

[delicate sigil]

I honestly love the boss, I can no hit him each time.

[half wren]

I'm not that good yet

Getting there tho

[timber star]

The bean bender

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.z6VA7U.Ezzt1nl3uikK_?w=270&h=270&c=6&r=0&o=5&pid=ImgGn

[delicate sigil]

Mr.Bean V superman- Who wins?

[hexed pulsar]

i forgot to get the % lore

[half wren]

There is an actually really interesting video on YouTube about that by Alex Lennen

[hexed pulsar]

wait speed completion is only 100% not 112% and it has 20 hrs not 10

so thats prolly possible

[acoustic sierra]

112% under 3 hours is possible

[hexed pulsar]

yeah ik but im not skurry but a semi casual

[alpine wave]

I’m gonna say something controversial

[grim prairie]

?

[alpine wave]

So u know how everyone hates p5 markoth?

[hexed pulsar]

the lore next to egg bench

[alpine wave]

Markoth is the best dream warrior. Bite me

[hexed pulsar]

that unlocks %

[half wren]

You have 3 minutes to defend your stance

[alpine wave]

It’s legit a fun fight

[half wren]

I mean, it's not marmu

[alpine wave]

In my first p5 run I didn’t even notice the lack of floor

[half wren]

I'm not gonna have fun with floorless markoth

[lyric niche]

I dont care for Markoth

I hate elder hu tho(let me hit you please)

[half wren]

Elder hu is ass

[alpine wave]

Hardest radiant dream warrior was maarmu or gallein

[lyric niche]

Elder hu is the worst boss

[acoustic sierra]

Floorless Marmu when?

[half wren]

Only time I really use narts, and it's just to end it faster

[alpine wave]

I’m the only one in the community who struggles with Galien aren’t i

[lyric niche]

It was still markoth for me, but even then it wasnt that bad

[half wren]

No, I agree. Galien is annoying

In pantheons anyway

[alpine wave]

Me: Yes I beat galein! Now I’m on 3 health… then I hear it

Ahhhh ba lahaha

[half wren]

BAAAHH MAWLEBALLL

[alpine wave]

GREY PRINCR ZOTE

[half wren]

Trauma fr

[alpine wave]

Then I did him hitless

[thorny glacier]

yes

[half wren]

I made a new save for 112% bc zote was all that hinders me from P3 on my main save

Epic skill issue moment

[thorny glacier]

why did u not just

practice zote a bit

[half wren]

I suck at games

[half wren]

I did. ascended

Zote into uumuu is stupid

[thorny glacier]

uumuu is easy if u just take it slow

[alpine wave]

I just beat 112% but didn’t save zote so that I could avoid zote in godhome

[half wren]

Literally me

[thorny glacier]

zote is a top 5 boss

[half wren]

Nah, lost kin tho

[thorny glacier]

eh

[alpine wave]

Now I have to start a new file cuz one of the two achievements I’m missing is zote in Colo

[lyric niche]

Yeah

[alpine wave]

Lost kin and GPZ are both in the top 10 worst bosses

[thorny glacier]

awful take

[half wren]

LOST KIN IS GREAT

[alpine wave]

Bite me

[half wren]

I love him

[alpine wave]

GPZ is AWFULL

[lyric niche]

If you dislike gpz, you just need to get better

[half wren]

He squeeshy

[alpine wave]

SO MANY ADS

[lyric niche]

You can kill them right away tho

I kill them so fast i forget they exist

[thorny glacier]

top 5
PV NKG SoB Zote and idk absrad

[half wren]

I agree with the 1st three🤝

[thorny glacier]

actually maybe put absrad to 3 and move nkg + zote down

[half wren]

Top 5 imo:
PV, SoB, Sheo, Soul Tyrant, NKG

[thorny glacier]

soul tyrant!?!?!?

[half wren]

Yes

[alpine wave]

Why don’t I see the hollow knight

[half wren]

Fun boss

[thorny glacier]

because PV is right there at no 1

[thorny glacier]

its just frustratingly fast soul master

[alpine wave]

5: Soul tyrant or Markoth
4: Wacher knights
3: The Hollow knight
2: NKG
1: Pure vessel

[half wren]

And nkg is just frustratingly fast tmg

[thorny glacier]

no
idk if its just me but nkg felt kinda slow after i did PV loads

and grimm mega slow

[half wren]

Yea he does feel more tame now, but before he was annoyingly fast

[thorny glacier]

yeah

but i dont like the fight nearly as much after PV

its just a better fight

[alpine wave]

Hot take;

After so much practice on NKG and none on Grimm I’m more used to NKG then Grimm

So I find NKG easier on average

[ocean schooner]

dude

i sometimes fuck up some grimm atacks

cuz im used to nkg version

[half wren]

Same fr

[alpine wave]

IM NOT THE ONLY ONE!?

[half wren]

The puffer attack on grimm is so painfully slow

[ocean schooner]

i have every achievment in the game and still fuck up grimm

cuz im used to nkg

[alpine wave]

Damn, you 2 ahead of me

[thorny glacier]

everyone feels like this icl

[ocean schooner]

hot take: people say that pure vessel is way harder than he actually is

like he is hard but wtf? hardest boss in the game?

[alpine wave]

Correct

[thorny glacier]

nah hes the 2nd hardest boss

[rose yacht]

hes not actually hard

[alpine wave]

Hot take: God tamer is hard

[rose yacht]

its just reaction time, but then so is every boss

[ocean schooner]

dude u just pogo beast

[rose yacht]

god tamer fucked me in p5

[half wren]

And ddark a lot

[thorny glacier]

u can literally pogo the entire fight its so easy

[rose yacht]

i lost so many runs to god tamer and failed champion

[alpine wave]

Sometimes my pogos don’t register or the tamer jumps onto me

[rose yacht]

im disappointed

[thorny glacier]

just use wings when the tamer jumps at u

[ocean schooner]

i sometimes get hit by fucking false knight cuz im used to champ

[thorny glacier]

as long as the beast doesnt roll across the entire map u can stay on top of it the entire time

[alpine wave]

What about my pogoing not registering?

[jovial hull]

hornet kinda free ngl

[thorny glacier]

then ur swinging too high up

[alpine wave]

I don’t think it’s a skill issue as I did just do a hitless white palace

[thorny glacier]

its a timing issue

[alpine wave]

No

[rose yacht]

boss skill does not equate to platforming skill

[ocean schooner]

im used to my mark of pride strenght qslash heart combo and there is no way i can do p5 wihout it

[alpine wave]

He takes the dammage but I don’t get any height

[thorny glacier]

fr

[alpine wave]

Where is shamen stone

[ocean schooner]

i dont use it

[alpine wave]

Wow ur stupid

[thorny glacier]

if u dont use spells much theres no need

[ocean schooner]

fun fact: maxed out nail whit all the charms deals more damage than shamans stone

[rose yacht]

i think my p5 build was grubsong, shaman, strength and u. heart

[thorny glacier]

OMG

no ones ever recognised it

yayy

based

its such a good game

[alpine wave]

multi hits

[ocean schooner]

it deals about 125 damage per second as i remember :)

[rose yacht]

multi hits are also included in the working of higher dps

[ocean schooner]

or less but alot of dps

[acoustic sierra]

Me when I realize everyone's not a spell goon

[thorny glacier]

mixed build all the way for me

[alpine wave]

LMAO FR

[ocean schooner]

i recently tried to do my build but instead of heart i go overcharmed shamans

[rose yacht]

i dont use nailmaster's because i never use nail arts

[ocean schooner]

nail arts dont stack whit strenght

[thorny glacier]

neither theyre more of a pain for me

i always get hit when i try

[rose yacht]

im also the same idiot that mashes b for spells instead of quick cast which loses me hella dps

[opal jewel]

Nmg on top

[delicate sigil]

Same.

[opal jewel]

Nail arts are really good

[ocean schooner]

they dont stack whit strenght

[opal jewel]

They're good for full gear

[alpine wave]

Cyclone slash takes ur dmg per swipe by 1.5 and u can hit up to 8 times in ONE

[opal jewel]

They're INSANE for all bindings

[rose yacht]

i picked them up for completion and never used them

[ocean schooner]

they are only really good for bindings

[opal jewel]

And? Big range, cyclone does great damage and dash slash + gslash allows you to stall in the air

[alpine wave]

Bosses that move a lot like NKG and pv and hornet 2

[opal jewel]

Even if strength doesn't stack they're good

[opal jewel]

Hornet 2 you really want to get as many hits as possible as fast as possible

Ig cyclone

If you don't hold it

[alpine wave]

It has its own use at some point in every fight

@ocean schooner

[opal jewel]

Now dream warriors?
Nail arts land

[alpine wave]

A pure nail great slash does 42 dmg

[opal jewel]

Gorb is cyclone simulator

[brave blaze]

normal nail hits are better for regular PV btw

[opal jewel]

Markoth and no eyes are dash slash simulators

[ocean schooner]

it takes a while to charge, now take a pure nail strenght qslash combo. how much dps does it do?

[opal jewel]

Nail arts don't only bring dps

[alpine wave]

With NMG it takes .75 seconds

[opal jewel]

That's where you're both wrong

You see narts as dps only

[ocean schooner]

i dont see narts as dps only

[alpine wave]

I don’t

[opal jewel]

Sounds like you do

[ocean schooner]

but a good nail build just melts bosses

[brave blaze]

DPS calculations are also just pointless, bosses do this thing called moving, you have to calculate damage based on actual hits done on attacks with a specific source of damage and then compare this with actual hits done on attacks using the different damage source, any other way of measurement is just not actually representative of what is actually happening

[opal jewel]

Against many bosses you can only get 1 hit in (unless you're really good at the game)
Less dps sure, but when you do more damage in a single hit then it's better
It allows you to stall
It has range

And that's forgetting about cyclone

[ocean schooner]

hmmm.

[opal jewel]

And that's only talking about bosses

[ocean schooner]

i will do pv whit my build and your build

[opal jewel]

being able to one shot most enemies you normally can't is also a huge qol

[opal jewel]

You don't really use narts on PV

You use shriek and shade soul

[brave blaze]

I mean you can, its just not "optimal", not that that matters

[opal jewel]

The only nart you use is cyclone slash when you don't have shriek for the pillars

[ocean schooner]

then what boss

[opal jewel]

Gorb with cyclone slash

[vast aspen]

Guys is this normal

[opal jewel]

1 cyclone gives you 1 shriek

Rinse and repeat

[alpine wave]

Quick slash and strength for obvious reasons.
Shaman Stone allowed you to multi hit bosses, get BIG dammage with i drama from DDark, Shreik can get up to 4 multi hits wicth is upward of 120 dammage.
NMG allows us to hit a teloprting boss once then slash or spell for around 80 dammage per teleport.
Dream wielder lets us get 2 full casts per dream nail and it charges in 0.60 seconds. It also allows you to get full soul before Grimm even starts and same thing with the watcher knights. There’s many more situation

[alpine wave]

Enemy rando?

[vast aspen]

Not even

Regular rando

[opal jewel]

No eyes, markoth

[alpine wave]

Then no

[vast aspen]

They're just hovering

[brave blaze]

Whats just as important to consider is the strats that are being used, different skill levels will use different strats that are harder/easier and get less/more hits, so that has to be reflected on both things youre comparing aswell

[opal jewel]

NKG in a lesser extent

[vast aspen]

I can dream nail them but I can't hit em

[opal jewel]

NKG narts are slower but way safer

Because not everyone parries the uppercut to do shriek damage to nkg

Also, dash slash when bats lets you stall in the air which is really helpful

I'm not saying that nail arts are this insane hidden feature nobody uses because they're too bad to use them

But saying normal nail swings are always better is just wrong

[brave blaze]

The real reason its so uncommon is just that it kinda just like, doesnt actually give a benefit? Like, the strats people use, even beginners, will probbaly be able to compete with whatever strats you might use that incorporate narts instead of reg nail swings

[ocean schooner]

grimm decimated whit your build

im really rusty

[opal jewel]

Narts are just like spells in the end

You never really need them for the average person's playthrough

(spells are much better than nail arts don't put words in my mouth)

[alpine wave]

In my steel soul 100% run I went in with strength and shamen and I left on full hp

[ocean schooner]

ok

[alpine wave]

At least fit shamen stone in instead of MOP

[ocean schooner]

decimated grimm whit my build

alright so

i like my build more

[alpine wave]

Alright

But in the early game shamen stone melts most bosses and 1-3 shots all enemy’s

[ocean schooner]

yes. spells are better early to mid game

but if you get the upgrades and charms

nail is better

[alpine wave]

Nail has more total DPS

But like we said

It’s not all about DPS

[rose yacht]

enemy rando moment

[alpine wave]

I LOVE enemy rando but I never get to play it

Cuz it’s glicthy

Enemy’s being the wrong size and arenas not working

[granite crane]

True.

[fallow socket]

guys so question

this is one of my favriote games of all time but im kinda worried, are there gonna be able to afford making a second game, this game didint sell to well

[half wren]

Wdym it didn't sell too well

They sold 3 mil as an indie

[fallow socket]

idk like did the devs make profit off it

[half wren]

I think so

Since they're still working on the sequel

[fallow socket]

idk man

cuz like it must of only made like 500k right?

[half wren]

They also have merch, which I'm sure they get a cut of the profits from

[half wren]

.

[fallow socket]

yeah and like steam takes a cut

and they used a publisher, so they prob only make like 1 dollar per sale

[half wren]

So do most platforms

I KNOW that nintendo took a stupid large cut

[thorny glacier]

its one of the best selling indie games of all time??

[fallow socket]

yeah but dont indies usually not make profit

[half wren]

If they're making a sequel, I'm fairly sure they have funds

[thorny glacier]

in this case id say they definitely have

the 3 million mark was from like 4 yrs ago too

[half wren]

Oh mb

I don't check charts

[thorny glacier]

np np just saying itll be even more now

[half wren]

Ah ty

[fallow socket]

what is the total sales for the game

[half wren]

At least 3

[thorny glacier]

we havent got any figures for yrs

[fallow socket]

yeah thats what im worried about

[thorny glacier]

but 3 million = 45 million usd at most
minus all funds its got to be at least like 10 mil right

and its a very small dev team

[fallow socket]

what if they spent all the money on like living expenses

[half wren]

Yea like 4 ppl

[fallow socket]

that could easily take all the money up

[half wren]

Depends on the context

[thorny glacier]

what millions for 4 people

i feel like ur overly concerned

[fallow socket]

they probably went all out cuz they got so much money

[half wren]

Yea dude

Calm down

[fallow socket]

like this about this, if u just got 10m dollars ur probably gonna buy a nicer house than u had before

[half wren]

The sequel is in development

[thorny glacier]

they created one of the most succesful indies of all time and have been creating a sequel for years without asking for more money

[fallow socket]

yeah one of the most sucsessful

[thorny glacier]

i dont think theyre stupid enough to spend all their funds on luxuries

[fallow socket]

not the most sucsessful

[thorny glacier]

??

[half wren]

So????

[thorny glacier]

icl ur dumb asf

[half wren]

You're really splitting hairs dude

[fallow socket]

please dont be mean 😦

[thorny glacier]

😛

[fallow socket]

idk im just worried

[half wren]

No need to be

[ocean schooner]

whats this talk about

[fallow socket]

bros im just trolling lol ik, suprised i could lead u guys on a string this long

[half wren]

You'd be shocked

[ocean schooner]

anyways when hollow knigh sillysink

[fallow socket]

also

[half wren]

[fallow socket]

isint this the most sucsessful indie?

i can think of a bigger one

oh nvm undertale probably

na g undertale has less reviews that hollow knight by a lot

[ocean schooner]

undertale is the most popular

everyone knows what it is

[plucky aurora]

Hi

[ocean schooner]

hello

[half wren]

We engage in mild amounts of tomfoolery

[plucky aurora]

Hope everyone’s having an okay day

[fallow socket]

hk has a bigger playerbase tho'

and made more money

[plucky aurora]

[ocean schooner]

it def deserves it

[fallow socket]

OHH NVM

[half wren]

As someone whose played UT

[fallow socket]

stardew valley is wayy bigger than hk

[half wren]

I dont get the hype

[thorny glacier]

terraria is prob no 1

[ocean schooner]

wait terraria

[fallow socket]

stradew valley also tho its bigger

[ionic skiff]

aint no way

[ocean schooner]

also mc does not deserve to be the no.1 game in the fucking world

[half wren]

I'm not gonna yet

[fallow socket]

bro more active players than elden ring

[ionic skiff]

i will never think about doing that.

[half wren]

Bc it's fire

[fallow socket]

nvm ur right

[half wren]

Fair, ig. P5 is tricky

[ocean schooner]

rain world is super underrated

[thorny glacier]

terraria is far bigger

[half wren]

I got to nosk. Scary shit

[fallow socket]

terraria is a little bit more, but stardew never goes for cheap, while terraria does

[fallow socket]

its actually close

[ionic skiff]

nice! keep going. if you don't i would practice the hell out of these bosses in the hall of gods or whatever its called

[ocean schooner]

when i killed absrad in p5 i was so happy

[thorny glacier]

it did like before ms bought it

[half wren]

Yeah, I have attuned all but absrad (obviously)

[ocean schooner]

i mean i like games whit content

[fallow socket]

yeah, hk is easily one of the top 10 biggest indies ever made tho

[undone chasm]

On what site do you check that?

[fallow socket]

steamdb

[ionic skiff]

i practices so much on her. took me a few tries on p5

[half wren]

I suck at normal radiance lol

[ocean schooner]

absrad is the hardest boss in the entire hollow knight

[thorny glacier]

damn im surprised

[fallow socket]

ik lol

[ionic skiff]

i suck at regular bosses since im used to the faster versions. lol

[fallow socket]

bro idfk how its so big

[undone chasm]

Found a bigger indie

[fallow socket]

this is a indie?

[thorny glacier]

ur too good of a troll

[undone chasm]

Yeah scs software started as a 3 person company

[fallow socket]

g i was being obvious

[thorny glacier]

it went on for too long man

[fallow socket]

idk bro

i think ur gullible

oh guys kinda offtopic but

buy the messanger

and the surge, its 3$ rn

[thorny glacier]

maybe

[thorny glacier]

buy katana zero

[fallow socket]

to expensive

buy the surge rn tho, its a long soulslike and its only 3 bux

[ocean schooner]

buy rainworld its amazing

[fallow socket]

its in the backlog already

[thorny glacier]

id geneuinely pay like 40 for it fr

[ocean schooner]

buy ror2, rorr they amazing

[fallow socket]

yeah but i have 2700 hrs of backlog

[thorny glacier]

how do u check

[fallow socket]

rougelikes aint my thing

[fallow socket]

dms rq?

[thorny glacier]

alr

[ocean schooner]

i spent like 800zł on my steam

alot

[hearty stump]

chat is this real

[abstract elk]

i just unlocked that

[hearty stump]

i forgot who recommended sharp shadow for sly

but they were correct

[half wren]

GGs

[hearty stump]

p4 gives % right?

[half wren]

Yes