hk-general

[granite crane]

Pain

[vestal shuttle]

it was the first run i got past markoth and from the grave markoth said to come back

[ocean schooner]

the thing thats killing most p5 runs in the pressure, u have the whole pantheon of hollownest on your back and you dont want to lose it

[vestal shuttle]

Yeah

[granite crane]

Agreed.

[ocean schooner]

u should just chill

[vestal shuttle]

it pressures you when you get to the pantheon of the knight group

[granite crane]

Yeah.

[ocean schooner]

fr

its so scary when u get to radiance

[vestal shuttle]

i still hate that they placed Hornet Sentinel behind sly on purpose lol

[granite crane]

True.

[vestal shuttle]

I was shaking on the climb lol

I knew the last phase was easy but i didn't want to die

[ocean schooner]

i hate that nosk, uumuu, sly and sentinel are on 1 "run"

[granite crane]

Winged Nosk, the Vengefly King reskin.

[ocean schooner]

i usually follow my be chill thing but on climb i was shaking dude

[vestal shuttle]

Real

[ocean schooner]

winged nosk is vengefly king remastered

fr

[granite crane]

Many people say that it has a broken hitbox.

[vestal shuttle]

its just vengefly king but with two extra attacks

[ocean schooner]

i kinda felt that

[vestal shuttle]

The wings are really unforgiving

[ocean schooner]

it sometimes feel like its hitbox is broken

[granite crane]

I totally agree.

[vestal shuttle]

I never had that feeling tbh

When i get hit i knew it was my fault

[brave blaze]

The wings hitbox is def bigger then it should be

[vestal shuttle]

Yeah that i agree

[ocean schooner]

uumuu sucks

in godhome

[vestal shuttle]

Uumuu is meh

[granite crane]

Yeah.

[ocean schooner]

uumuu is unfun to fight

for me

[vestal shuttle]

The original uumuu is unfun in my perspective

[ocean schooner]

i hate that rest of my achievments just require grind

[vestal shuttle]

while in godhome its really interesting to fight

[granite crane]

Uumuu is basically: Dream Nail when it is close, then wait for the opportunity to cast Vengeful Spirit thing, and then abyss shriek or attack it with your nail.

[vestal shuttle]

Yup

Basically that's it

[ocean schooner]

u fight normal uumuu whit my boy quirell and that alone gets it an S tier

[granite crane]

The original version is basically the same, but instead of casting the Vengeful Spirit, you gotta wait for Quirrel to stagger it.

[vestal shuttle]

Waiting simulator 1.0

[granite crane]

But atleast Quirrel is trying to help.

[vestal shuttle]

Yeah, at least

[ocean schooner]

they didint include zote colo fight cuz they were scared that too many runs were gonna go down

hes too hard

bro there is more ppl who got dream no more than sealed sibs wtf

[vestal shuttle]

I don't really find GPZ that hard

[granite crane]

😮

[scenic frost]

Wdym instead of casting the vengeful spirit

[vestal shuttle]

Though I haven't defeated him more than 4 times

[scenic frost]

In godhome you just need to nuke it with jellyfish

[vestal shuttle]

Well... we need that platinum

[ocean schooner]

how is this possible

[lost helm]

wth

[vestal shuttle]

Well

[steep marten]

Guys, i forgot to say. Why torrent for me is not a crime? Because i am Russian.

[scenic frost]

I'm scared of doing eternal ordeal

[vestal shuttle]

I have no answer lol

[lost helm]

in brazil we live of that

[ocean schooner]

why didint ppl get free achievment

[steep marten]

Understood.

[vestal shuttle]

Lmao

i get that

[lost helm]

i pay xbox gamepass

[ocean schooner]

in poland ask anyone he has pirated something atleast once

[scenic frost]

Why are all the quirrel pfps from brazil

[vestal shuttle]

Well im from Brazil!

[lost helm]

fr?

[vestal shuttle]

Yup

[steep marten]

https://tenor.com/view/hollowknight-quirrel-dance-gif-18543051

[lost helm]

ohh cool

[steep marten]

I did find it and before.

[steep marten]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-19047173

[ocean schooner]

wtf

[lost helm]

i cryed at that moment

[scenic frost]

Quirrel boat

[vestal shuttle]

Quirrel is just a good guy just like all Brazilians

[ocean schooner]

poor quirrel

[scenic frost]

https://tenor.com/view/kaptorga-terminator-thumbs-up-ok-alright-gif-12321108

[vestal shuttle]

quirrel boat lmao

[steep marten]

True.

[ocean schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/f-gif-13187333855191538260

[autumn cairn]

what

[scenic frost]

https://tenor.com/view/swag-daveo-cat-epic-gif-24184390

[ocean schooner]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/926833679051923477/1057878678853406851/20221006_174036-1-1.gif

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1117152101940875417/1166433719654035586/fear.gif?ex=654a790e&is=6538040e&hm=edca31926da044ebfdf5bad732759bb2af2797be798e2550cff148761c7359a9&

[lost helm]

does hk got a good end?

[scenic frost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944340571655385109/975526268722360360/speed-1-1.gif

[ocean schooner]

uhh

depends what ending

[scenic frost]

Depends tbh

[ocean schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-five-pebbels-flex-gif-24295881

[heady dew]

the basic ending is kinda meh but the Dream no More ending is so satisfying

[ocean schooner]

i think that dream no more is the perfect hk ending

[scenic frost]

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-sleep-dog-dawg-eeper-gif-5083970977419902566

[steep marten]

I did save once Cloth, did save twice Zote and beat him in Coleseum of fools. I did save Bretta (forgot name).

[ocean schooner]

embrace the void doesnt make alot of sense

[scenic frost]

embrace da void

[steep marten]

If somebody need it, here:

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-26047541

[ocean schooner]

zote should die every good playtrough

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/508334973632118805/1082090347330535535/caption-9.gif

[steep marten]

Really?

[ocean schooner]

u will figure out why

[lost helm]

the worst thing i did on my life its saving zote

[ocean schooner]

fr

i leave him to die every new playtrough

[lost helm]

same

[steep marten]

I did save everyone.

[ocean schooner]

go back to dirtmouth

[steep marten]

Even Cloth in time (repeat)

[heady dew]

good on you

[scenic frost]

I love leaving zote to die

[ocean schooner]

vladik what ending ou doing?

[scenic frost]

My favorite thing to do

[steep marten]

I didn't comeplete the game even yet, so i don't know, i just comepleting the game.

[smoky lark]

wassup time to rant about how i suck

[steep marten]

Guys, i did die many times to Nosk and today i did finnaly beat him.

[ocean schooner]

nosk is one of the few bossfights i dislike

[heady dew]

ggs ❤️

[ocean schooner]

ggs

[lost helm]

i hate winged nosk

the hitbox its so broken bro

[heady dew]

i only like him for the music

[steep marten]

I did dodge like more then 10 times on Nosk.

[ocean schooner]

W list

[smoky lark]

well i’ll actually so permanently pessimistic i can’t think of anything negative in specific to say without showing an image of my face

[heady dew]

[smoky lark]

wait i don’t have to

[steep marten]

I have only one S the Mantises lords.

[lost helm]

mine

[steep marten]

Guys, i did die on every boss. But.. HOW I DIDN'T DIE ON False Knight!? I was close always to death..

[ocean schooner]

false knight is a literall tutorial

[steep marten]

Plus, i did beat Mantises lords with 1 hit left at end. I was lucky that they did have 1 hit left, each of them.

[steep marten]

And mmmmm spoilers

[burnt heath]

Well this chat allows spoilers, if you dont want them the only chats youre safe in are #off-topic (no hk at all) and #hk-help

[ocean schooner]

is this a W list?

[lost helm]

he is gorb 😍

[ocean schooner]

vengefly king should get D tier but he killed sote so C

[lost helm]

i forgor how to play and died to no eyes 💀

[ocean schooner]

no eyes sucks

[lost helm]

idk how i died

i never died to it

i just start palying like a potato

[gaunt geyser]

no

Probably not given the context

[scenic frost]

No because you put thk in s

[ocean schooner]

the hollow knight requires S

[gaunt geyser]

no, but for other reasons

[ocean schooner]

hollow knight is amazing

the boss

[gaunt geyser]

The question being

Are you rating the boss combat or how it fits into the game and overall appearance

You’re probably doing not one of them which makes for this rather weird list id say

[ocean schooner]

both mostly

[gaunt geyser]

I dont see how absrad isnt S then

[tired pollen]

NEVER stagger pure vessel while it jumps into the air

[gaunt geyser]

Gpz in d doesnt seem reasonable either

[gaunt geyser]

Why not? Its not like itll 100% hit u

[ocean schooner]

radiance is better

bro the background of final phase of radiance

[tired pollen]

It just flies into the air and almost always lands on top of you

[ocean schooner]

is so climatic

[gaunt geyser]

Im aware and no? It doesnt really hit you if you react accordingly

[scenic frost]

Absrad sucks because its just difficulty for difficulty's sake, and there's not much differentiating it from the original radiance.

[tired pollen]

It’s still annoying

[gaunt geyser]

thats a surface level perspective

[scenic frost]

Do you have an actual rebuttal for me?

[gaunt geyser]

i do but id have to do some writing and itd be overkill i think

[ashen wadi]

absrad is fine but not really an improvement over normal rad in terms of being fun and the context is way dumber

[gaunt geyser]

Its also Not pretty understandable unless you’ve played much absrad

[scenic frost]

Honestly, the way I feel about absrad is the same way I feel about most of the dream rematches

There's just not much differentiating them from their originals

[grand oyster]

cool

difficult boss is difficult wtf!

[lyric niche]

You need to eradicate any trace of skill issue

[gaunt geyser]

point: difficult, no reason (=forced)

[lyric niche]

It's difficult because it's the real final boss

[scenic frost]

It's not about the difficulty. It's the fact that the difficulty isn't really earned. As in they didn't do anything truly different to make it the hardest boss in the game. They just beefed up the final boss with faster attacks and more health.

[gaunt geyser]

.

[lyric niche]

It's the final boss

Would be underwhelming to go through p5 and get an easy boss

[gaunt geyser]

And the outcome is not equal to the formula in this case

[ashen wadi]

superbosses being reskins of other bosses isn't unprecedented anyways

[scenic frost]

It would be even more underwhelming if you got to the end of p5 and it was a boss you already fought before but harder... oh wait

[gaunt geyser]

no it wouldnt

[scenic frost]

Why didn't they just make a new final boss

[gaunt geyser]

Radiance isnt meant to be difficult whereas absolute radiance is truly lore accurate in both difficulty and the enemy of the knight/god in godhome

I dont get your point

Theres nothing to add to the outer appearance

[ashen wadi]

they make the only sensible cosmetic change of making her brighter (ie increasing her halo)

[scenic frost]

Why not make a new boss lol

[gaunt geyser]

yikes

[lyric niche]

A new boss would mean the radiance and infection stuff would still be there

[ashen wadi]

there's also a lack of other suitable candidates

[scenic frost]

You already kill radiance in dream no more

[floral wedge]

[ashen wadi]

that has no bearing on what he said

[lyric niche]

Yeah but if you get godhome ending, then dream no more ending hasn't canonically happened

[scenic frost]

So?

[ashen wadi]

so what you said doesn't apply

[gaunt geyser]

The “all radiant” you’re referring to is named “RadHog” for radiant hall of gods

[ashen wadi]

or a really cool pig

[lyric niche]

I said if you get godhome ending then radiance and infection stays there.

[scenic frost]

Ok

[lyric niche]

If there was a new boss

[floral wedge]

poshel nahui sin shluxi

[scenic frost]

The better radhog

[floral wedge]

[lyric niche]

Team Cherry wanted every ending to delay/stop infection

[ashen wadi]

well yes it would be bizarre to have an ending that did not pertain to the main conflict

[scenic frost]

Dlc moment!!!!

[strange tusk]

Yo

[scenic frost]

😱

[gaunt geyser]

in this case dlc is just a placeholder title wdym

Its literally an update just like minecrafts updates, newer version also contribute to the lore of the game

[lament lagoon]

Hollow Knight Halloween outfit

[lost helm]

thats fire

[strange tusk]

nice

[gaunt geyser]

This is so awesome lol

[scenic frost]

Obviously but it can do its own side plot, not necessarily needing to mingle with the established plot of the main game

[heady dew]

skeletron prime pfp :0

[scenic frost]

YOOOO

[strange tusk]

spooky

[heady dew]

boo

[lament lagoon]

my son appreciates the positive feedback

[opal jewel]

Why would another boss be there instead of absrad

[gaunt geyser]

think of it as non dlcs, as in one game with no side aspects whatsoever and just this one storyline. No content extras or whatever.

Having a side plot would be rather weird but i get your point if you’re saying that there should be a boss on par or even greater than the radiance.
Point being, this is not possible in the lore of the game. There cant be anything stronger than void and having a void boss is wrong too. Closest to the strongest can only be absolute radiance. Period.

[opal jewel]

I wonder what the nail looks like

[lament lagoon]

he didnt have time to make one so its a lightsabre that isnt activated lol

[opal jewel]

Fair enough

[lament lagoon]

with the nail. the cloak is actually hand made by his uncle to be the hollow knight one

[undone chasm]

I love seeing all the hk related costumes

Means the community is still alive and kicking enough for people to do such things

[gaunt geyser]

Oh yeah it is

[ashen wadi]

it's been kicking for six years, probably not going anywhere anytime soon

[scenic frost]

Dude, the dlc itself expanded the lore. The lore not allowing it is not an issue because the dlc could've made new lore.

At the very least they could've given absrad new attacks

[opal jewel]

I think absrad is fine how she is

Also who else would you put as the last P5 boss?

[scenic frost]

Absrad? More like absBAD!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[ashen wadi]

at this point the complaint is just "godmaster wasn't not godmaster"

[opal jewel]

You'd have to create a whole new god that's more powerful than absrad who made an entire kingdom fall

[gaunt geyser]

meaning changing the entire lore of the game

[sacred jacinth]

is absrad the real version of adiance or like what is she. Like is the radiance responsible for everything or absrad

[opal jewel]

We know there is a god more powerful than absrad, but that's you

Or rather the shade lord but you got the point

[ashen wadi]

absrad is radiance with a power up

[scenic frost]

In an ending that's so tonally distinct from the main endings, they should've at least given her new attacks

[lyric niche]

Radiance but full power

[scenic frost]

The idea is that she's the radiance but at peak performance or smt

[sacred jacinth]

so in terms of lore, how is she in godhome? is she in the godseekers mind or smt

well not lore ig just game

[scenic frost]

Godseeker just brought her there

[lyric niche]

The godseekers are trying to find the best god, and they like attuned the bosses to their full potential(I'm not a lore expert so could be wrong)

[sacred jacinth]

oh

also whos the shade lord is it an actual being

[granite crane]

L O R E

[opal jewel]

Have you beaten p5

[ocean nacelle]

Rad is her best form until godseeker powers her up through attunement to become absrad

[ashen wadi]

Basically

[ashen wadi]

It's the protagonist usurping rad's spot

[broken zenith]

godseekers "buffing" bosses by attuning

[limber lion]

no there getting them to there full potential

[opal jewel]

Thk turning into PV for example

[ashen wadi]

by attuning to them and buffing them

[opal jewel]

Thk has flaws, PV is thk without those flaws

[ashen wadi]

pv's a bit different but the effect is the same

[opal jewel]

Matis lords could be even better if all three lords fought at the same time
God seekers made them do that

Radiance is weakened inside thk's body

In P5 she has a her full power

[granite crane]

Interesting.

[opal jewel]

God seekers don't buff bosses they put them at their peak

Sly is probably old with osteoporosis

But in godhome he's as young as ever

[ashen wadi]

they do buff bosses, rad's combat ability while in thk has no reason to be reduced

and los gets a visible boost despite not having existed in that form

[broken zenith]

Radiance become stronger when bugs worship her godseekers just do it better then others

So radiance become absolute radiance

[opal jewel]

The real absolute form is orbsolute radiance

That's a god I'd worship

[broken zenith]

And i can't beat her for almost 6 months

[opal jewel]

Orbsolute looks so bullshit

Anyrad 1.0 seems pretty fair, climb aside

[broken zenith]

Always dying on nightmare king

[opal jewel]

Orbsolute is bad

[knotty valve]

First time reaching NKG in P5

Havent fought him in months, I entered with full health and soul and didn't even make it to first balloon

I don't remember the uppercut being so trash

[grand oyster]

uppercut i just dash through tbh

[broken zenith]

I spend 50 attempts to pass NKG at first time

Quite painful

[knotty valve]

Yeah, I tried dashing but a) I didn't have control for the fire falling and b) he kept crawling backwards

In my first save file it took me exactly 40 tries to beat NKG, having to beat it back to back with PV is a nightmare

[granite crane]

Sometimes I just parry the uppercut...

I dont know why.

[opal jewel]

Parrying the uppercut is the best strat...

...for speedkills

[granite crane]

Oh.

[opal jewel]

It actually gets consistent

[granite crane]

Well, good to know then.

[opal jewel]

But don't try it

If your goal is to beat p5

[granite crane]

Yeah.

[broken zenith]

I rarely used magic and mostly attacked with a nail

[opal jewel]

MAGIC?

BRO SAID MAGIC SOMEONE PING MODS

[knotty valve]

I usually have spell twister on to reduce the mana cost of magic

[granite crane]

[opal jewel]

And they said mana

What is happening in here

[granite crane]

What is mana?

Nevermind.

[knotty valve]

I also tap on my "plains" card during the battle for +2 green mana

[granite crane]

I am outta here.

[broken zenith]

I have almost all the builds on the nail, I know that the spells are quite powerful, but it’s not convenient for me to use them, I lose timings and take damage

[gaunt geyser]

fishy

[broken zenith]

Freddy Fazbear 💀

[light nova]

im not a bot or a scammer >_>

Im just tryna spread the movie

[burnt heath]

Sharing pirated content is agaisnt tos and also not allowed here, please delete your message

[toxic nova]

<@&283547423706447872>

[light nova]

ruining the fun 😠

[burnt heath]

More like, having common sense

[light nova]

having common sense sometimes

is ruining the fun

but thats fine rules are rules

ima just skiddadle and break em somewhere else

[broken zenith]

I remember when i was 15, i wanted to make a fnaf fan-game and even tried to make character models in blender but they were terrible so I deleted them, only a couple of sketches remained

The knowledge on 3d-modeling that was given to me at school was clearly not enough

[ashen mica]

Oh, finally...

[granite crane]

[ashen mica]

I finally did CoF 1

[granite crane]

You mean Trial of the Warrior

?

[ashen mica]

(I'm joking)

[granite crane]

Oh...

[ashen mica]

No..

[granite crane]

Nevermind.

[ashen mica]

I have done better

[granite crane]

Nice.

[ashen mica]

I defeat...

ZOTE THE MIGHTY!!!!

[granite crane]

The hardest boss ever, congrats!

[dry smelt]

Cool I defeated a ant in combat

[ashen mica]

Thank you, thank all of you

[granite crane]

👏

[ashen mica]

It's has been a lot of suffer. But I win Zote

And now, I will kill bretta

[granite crane]

.

[dry smelt]

Yes

[granite crane]

[ashen mica]

Revenge my friend

Revenge...

I killed Bretta

[granite crane]

[ashen mica]

And now... the most danger creature of all Hallownest..

The mega primal aspid, and his billions of primal aspids and aspids

Byeee

[granite crane]

GASP

[ashen mica]

Oh no...

They're so much...

[dry smelt]

I just realized the CoF is in a worm

[teal thistle]

Monster

[ashen mica]

I think I cant do this

[ashen mica]

[granite crane]

I forgot what CoF stands for, what does it stand for?

[ashen mica]

Colosseum of Fools

[granite crane]

Oh.

OH.

Good to know.

[ashen mica]

NO

NOOOO

I will die.. for a primal aspid..

[dry smelt]

[ashen mica]

I'm not hollow enough

[ashen mica]

[granite crane]

[dry smelt]

[ashen mica]

[dry smelt]

[burnt heath]

Smh hk offtopic try not to spam emotes challenge (dont)

[ashen mica]

[dry smelt]

Okay I’ll stop

[ashen mica]

Ok

[broken zenith]

I found them!

I will post in art discussion

[frigid lion]

Anyone watching Fireb0rn rn

[granite crane]

He makes good content.

[frigid lion]

True

true

[vocal seal]

Idk I don’t watch any hk you tubers now

[vocal seal]

What the fuck autocorrect are you seriously “you tubers”

[languid yew]

is anyone able to help me out with some mod issues i cant figure out

id post in #1057825333841240104 but i dont really understand how those topic channels work tbh

[valid falcon]

Post in modding help

[burnt heath]

Its quite easy, press the Blue button with a + in mobile, and there should be a create post button on pc

[umbral finch]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-vader-empire-strikes-back-starwars-all-too-easy-gif-16567161

[languid yew]

i figured it out and someone helped me already too, ty

[brave blaze]

Celebrating halloween looks cool

'''

[midnight oasis]

'''?

[brave blaze]

oops, keyboard mash

mb

[lime briar]

me when i need to declare a variable as an empty string in autohotkey ""

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcfuA_UAz3I holy shizzay new mossbag video

i know moving off sites liek fandom and fextra is like a thing now but didnt expect mr moss to talk about it

[brave blaze]

me personally, I have a thing that thanos snaps all the advertisements on fandom, so it doesn't really bother me

[long marlin]

LETS GOOOO

i hate fandom too

an admin suckers

[umbral finch]

What's wrong with fandom

[brave blaze]

https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Hollow_Knight_Wiki:Moving_from_Fandom

[dry smelt]

Ads are everywhere and auto play if I remember correctly

[woven oriole]

who playing

[valid falcon]

ads bad
very bad tools for making wiki
smells

Also the ai stuff for a bit

[umbral finch]

It all comes back to artificial intelligence

[midnight oasis]

Im still baffled why they decided that the AI would be able to pull information outside the one page it was shortening

Thats how you get "Collector is an american serial killer"

[brave blaze]

however my experience is not affected cause 1: I only read the wiki and 2: I HAVE ADBLOCKER

[long marlin]

so many toxic people, underage people, abusive admin in the wiki, fandom discord server got so many offended over the music, im still banned from fandom discord server, likes cringe stuff, i have globally blocked 2 times

[valid falcon]

hmm

[umbral finch]

4 damn replies I think I understand it now

[hidden geyser]

Gyaaaat

[untold meteor]

Do you fw skibidi toilet?

[long marlin]

whar

[frozen kite]

happy HOLLOwWeen, hollow knight server
no back to other servers i go

[limpid pewter]

meow

[brave blaze]

say anything and I’ll relate it to hollow knight

[half wren]

Grilled cheese sandwich

[brittle flame]

Do it on an alt

[ashen wadi]

Or just don’t because it’s not funny anyways

[robust blade]

[delicate badge]

congrats

[trim elbow]

took me like 30 minutes, alot of attemps to defeat the hollow knight with one nail upgrade

4h 50 minutes when i was done

[robust blade]

It was the same at the beginning 🤣🤣

But it's a matter of patience and practice

[robust blade]

[trim elbow]

Parrying, in the end became easy af

[supple aspen]

what if someone made an animatic or smt of "laaast christmas i gave you my heart but the very next day you gave it away" but it's just the knight and leg eater and the "heart" in question is fragile heart that tk feeds to divine

[sly bison]

я русский

[waxen wyvern]

We are gaming

[delicate badge]

engilsh only pls. it's agianst the rules (sorry i'm trying not to be rude)

[trim elbow]

i cant even finish POFT cause of Sly 😭

[supple aspen]

epicc

[waxen wyvern]

Fully understand, sly is my bain

[supple aspen]

it took me ages to be able to beat him without grimmchild and/or sharp shadow

[waxen wyvern]

To the point where P4 was significantly easier for me

[delicate badge]

WHERE"S HER HORNS 😭

[trim elbow]

his nail is massive

[supple aspen]

100%, pv is easier to get a hang of than sly

[waxen wyvern]

I stole them

[delicate badge]

dang

[waxen wyvern]

Cant wait for p5 where i have to do sly and NKG again

[trim elbow]

NKG is easy

sly is a nightmare

[waxen wyvern]

I struggle with nkg

[trim elbow]

just have sharp shadow and dash into him

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-grimm-hollow-knight-grimm-scream-grimm-hollow-knight-gif-26041288

[waxen wyvern]

I can consistently beat him, i just lose a bunch of health

[supple aspen]

practice on ascended

[trim elbow]

NKG got the moves like jagger

[slow kelp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLvog6Myhu4
WHAT IS THE HIGH QUALITY MOD HE USES?

the colors look bright and stuff

the bajgorund colors

it looks high qualitu

[long oak]

Since this channel is off-topic but also HK can I send other game images here??

[agile pasture]

sure

[long oak]

Rate da fit

[dire ore]

damn what are these effects

[long oak]

new ones from I think the summer update

[dire ore]

must be expensive as hell

[long oak]

for travel taunts? yeah

[ocean schooner]

nice

i still think that unus are a major waste of money

[long oak]

they are

I got lucky with mine, and it's the only unu taunt I own

[dire ore]

is it the only one in the market

[long oak]

oh no there's many unu taunts with this effect

love how y'all paying attention to the taunt and not the fit XD

[dire ore]

yes cause the taunt is like 100 keys

[long oak]

the taunt I have it for is boston break dance-

it all depends on the taunt and effect for the price

Still not rated-

[dusky yew]

does anyone want an xbox gamepass

[spare topaz]

Uhhhh

Double it and give it to the next person

[dusky yew]

i dmed you

[toxic nova]

surely not a scam

[dull oracle]

surely no one would scam soume on a public server

[dusky yew]

i dont any one of these 😭

[toxic nova]

can I see the code
just to make sure it's not a scam y'know

[dusky yew]

ill just dm it to you

and send proof

damn ok wait

27DMD-49MM7-G3DHC-446HF-RFPJZ

[heady dew]

✋ 🤚 mine

[spare topaz]

I dont have xboks

[vestal shuttle]

You better run

[late light]

what is bindings ?

like "nail binding"

and is doing a no hit pantheon award you with something?

[heady dew]

no

[late light]

pheeew

if it did i def would've tried to

life of a hardcore gamer

[heady dew]

Every pantheon has 4
Nail reduces your nail damage
Spell reduces the amount of soul you can carry
Charms unequips all charms
Shell reduces you to 4 HP

they all last until the end of that pantheon and go away if you win or lose

[late light]

i don't have to do them at once right

[heady dew]

and if you clear any 8 bindings you unlock lifeblood in the pantheons

no

[late light]

thanks for the info

[vestal shuttle]

Also after you do 8 bindings you get 3 lifeblood in every resting level of the pantheon

if you get more 4 you get 4 life blood for every resting level

And more 4 you get 5 lifeblood

but you would have to do the pantheon of the knight with bindings for 5 lifeblood

Or pantheon of hallownest and let's be real... a normal player won't do it

[proven thorn]

P4 with bindings too hard? do P5 with bindings to get lifeblood to make P4 easier

[vestal shuttle]

Yes

[proven thorn]

P1 was too hard with bindings I had to get more lifeblood from P5 😔

[vestal shuttle]

That's the only optimal strategy

[proven thorn]

mawlek too hard

[vestal shuttle]

do every binding besides pantheon of the master

[proven thorn]

yeah

okay so like

binding tier list
which is worst to do and which is best

soul is probably the worst one I hate soul binding

[vestal shuttle]

I always do soul last

Yeah

[proven thorn]

nail isn't that bad tbh

except for collector

[vestal shuttle]

Basically the health one but you can't even use spells properly

[vestal shuttle]

Took me so much to kill collector with the nail doing crap damage it wasn't even funny

[proven thorn]

like every boss is basically the same
just longer

expect for the ones with spawns

[vestal shuttle]

Yeah, while collector feels like a bullet hell game

[vestal shuttle]

Lost kin lol

[proven thorn]

other than lost kin and broken vessel

[dusky yew]

I JUST FORGOT TO GET MY SHADE BACK INSIDE THE LIFEBLOOD DOOR

HOW DO I GET IT BACK

[ashen wadi]

Jiji

[heady dew]

Eg

[proven thorn]

lmfao

[dusky yew]

i had to google it.

[lime briar]

all bindings collector also known as my lifeblood remover

[dusky yew]

so uhh how many times did it take you people to beat THK

[lime briar]

1

jk its been years i dont remember

[dusky yew]

i did it on my first try

[lime briar]

nice

[grave ruin]

someone give me a name for a duck >:(

[lime briar]

faraday

[heady dew]

abt 5

[neat stone]

Ducksidious

[heady dew]

Dr. Quackington the Ducktective III Esq.

[proven thorn]

anything but Malo

[grave ruin]

k u win

cause frogmaster is disqualified for the name not fitting

[proven thorn]

how so

[grave ruin]

:(

[proven thorn]

what

why are you angy

[grave ruin]

Cause I need good names and ur name idea is lame

[proven thorn]

quackington is fitting

[lime briar]

darwin

[proven thorn]

true

[grave ruin]

I'll call the top hat duck that when he appears

[proven thorn]

oh okay'

[lime briar]

this kind of a vibe tho

realizing what this reminded me of

[neat quiver]

spongebob needs the mantis claws

[lime briar]

real af actually

[carmine yacht]

what are some good games

[lime briar]

blasphemous 1 and 2

actually i havent played 2 yet cant speak to that

[opal jewel]

Is blasphemous 2 out?

[lime briar]

yeaj

[opal jewel]

I didn't know that

I hope the movement gets better in blasphemous 2

[neat quiver]

Titan Souls, Cave Story

[proven thorn]

hollow knight

[carmine yacht]

im pretty much done with HK

[brave blaze]

Hollow knight silksong

[carmine yacht]

any hard games?perhaps 1. person

[proven thorn]

rainworld

[carmine yacht]

give it a few more years

[opal jewel]

Dead cells

[brave blaze]

Wdym? The game is already out

[lime briar]

dead cells, darkest dungeon, katana zero

[opal jewel]

Dead cells last difficulty is pretty hard

[wheat field]

Dark souls

[carmine yacht]

the zaza that good?

[carmine yacht]

how come its good?i heard lots about getting it

[brave blaze]

Yez

[carmine yacht]

clearly 🥹

[lime briar]

fun bosses, good combat, ton of weapons

[carmine yacht]

but its 2d 😦

[lime briar]

hollow knight is 2d

[carmine yacht]

HK is different

[opal jewel]

There are a lot of weapons, the game is pretty big even without the DLCs, it's very smooth, and it can be very chaotic with funny synergies and a lot of enemies in the later difficulties

[lime briar]

and it has fun bosses good combat and only 1 weapon

[neat quiver]

Titan Souls bosses are the funnest

[opal jewel]

It's a metroidvania and a roguelite

[carmine yacht]

any first person games aswell?ill think about dead cells

[lime briar]

risk of rain 2

[opal jewel]

Minecraft

[carmine yacht]

isnt that multiplayer? and since its been out for like a millenia aint nobody playin that no more

[opal jewel]

It's not

[lime briar]

its multiplayer capable but not designed for it specifically

you can play single

[opal jewel]

team fortress 2 is multiplayer

[carmine yacht]

ok how about some story games

[opal jewel]

Undertale

Omori

[carmine yacht]

i alr got all endings on it

[opal jewel]

Blasphemous too

[carmine yacht]

is it that good?

[opal jewel]

It's really fun

It's pretty hard though

And the movement has nothing to do with HK

[heady dew]

Deltarune

[neat quiver]

Angel of Death, Omori

[opal jewel]

You're heavy and pretty slow

[heady dew]

Deltarune

[opal jewel]

Where the knight is light and fast

[lime briar]

yeah not being able to move while swinging on the ground was so offputting at first but i got used to it mostly. have to use the slide a lot, or jump.

[opal jewel]

I thought blasphemous would be easy since I'm pretty good at hk

[lime briar]

something i love tho is that air impulse thing where you hold the slide button while hitting in the air and you get a little upward momentum, lets you air chase enemies really hard and its fun

[opal jewel]

Turned out the skillset doesn't transfer really well

Also some bosses are a mess

Especially the girl in the bone temple like wtf it took me forever

She's the absrad of blasphemous

[lime briar]

ive only fought like 3 bosses so far lol

keep wanting to play it more and end up doing other stuff

[carmine yacht]

ok i might get dead cells or blashpemous 2

[opal jewel]

Play the first one

[carmine yacht]

ok i might get dead cells or blashpemous

[opal jewel]

The story is related so you wouldn't understand anything in the second one

[carmine yacht]

i see.

the graphics of the first one though..

[opal jewel]

It's not like silksong or undertale/deltarune

[carmine yacht]

meh ill get to like it

[opal jewel]

It's pixelized

Dead cells is also pixelized

[lime briar]

tbh i dont understand anything in the first one

[carmine yacht]

ik its not my cup of tea

[neat quiver]

blasphemous > dead cells

[lime briar]

very hollow knight esque in its cryptic story telling

[carmine yacht]

pixelized MOSTLY isnt my cup of tea but i can like it

[opal jewel]

Like in hollow knight it'll click in your head near the end

[carmine yacht]

25 euros to pay 🚬 where do i get that dough from

[lime briar]

cool. hopefully i can get some of it lol bc even with hollow knight i learned most of the lore and stuff from mossbags video after i beat it lol

but i got the basics myself i think

[opal jewel]

If I say anything I'd spoil you

The first ending makes you understand everything

[lime briar]

the sequel costs less rn lmao

[opal jewel]

The sequel looks really fun

With the new abilities

[lime briar]

my friend isnt a fan of the artstyle change, thats all i really know abt it

[opal jewel]

I hope it has actual movement abilities not just items that allow you to cross gaps

That's the only complaint I have for the first game

The movement abilities don't do anything in combat

[carmine yacht]

i see.

[lime briar]

true actually getting platforms as powerup is kinda lame lmao

[opal jewel]

Also there should've been a rosary bead allowing you to parry projectiles

Because oh my god

[lime briar]

ive never been much of a parry enjoyer more of a dodging andy so i havent felt that pain much except for one boss in particular where it probly wouldve helped a lot

[opal jewel]

For at least 1 boss you'll have to tank

I have no idea how to dodge their attacks

[lime briar]

idk its name but it shot a million red orbs and also fireballs at me i only won bc i found out i could at least hit the red orbs back at it

was like a head with a hole that i had to hit

[opal jewel]

Yeah the big head in the coven

It's not a head smh

Oh it is

Head with 2 hands

[gaunt geyser]

this is not hk offtopic

[opal jewel]

Go play blasphemous mate

[gaunt geyser]

Hop on #off-topic

[gaunt geyser]

Havent got the game

[opal jewel]

Hop on stop being a mod

[lime briar]

"off topic and hollow knight series discussion" doesnt say it has to be hk

the other off topic just specifically doesnt allow hk i think is the point of it

[neat quiver]

actual off topic channel is a #sk-discussion

[lime briar]

trueing

[heady dew]

yes it is

[proven thorn]

we clearly are in #hk-general

[heady dew]

OR ARE WE…?

[quiet kayak]

this is actually #hk-meme EVERYONE RUN

[quiet kayak]

[heady dew]

oh no

[quiet kayak]

oh yeah i almost forgot

[heady dew]

[quiet kayak]

[torpid obsidian]

Me fr

[scenic frost]

Bourgor...

[long oak]

DAMN IT THEY FIXED THIS FILE TOO

it's supposed to shrink D:

[dusk moon]

Guys I need help with something

[gaunt geyser]

but the topic isnt hk

[dusk moon]

How do I get an admin to love me

[gaunt geyser]

[gaunt geyser]

You cant here, trustme

[dusk moon]

Simo won't love me

[dull oracle]

he does not love anyone

[dusk moon]

When ever I say I love him he hits me with an OK then leaves discord

[dull oracle]

i understand

[scenic frost]

Give me 1,000000000000000 dollars and they'll love you

[proven thorn]

Give me your money

It wont make them love you

[dull oracle]

give us all some money

[proven thorn]

But do it either way

[dusk moon]

Give me some time to sell some Simo bath water and ill hook you all up

[midnight oasis]

It doesn't need to be HK here

[scenic frost]

Its hk offtopic

[dusk moon]

Anyone want Simo bath water

[proven thorn]

No

[scenic frost]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-spy-gif-25844405

[dusk moon]

I guess ill take my stuff else where

[proven thorn]

Hello everynyan. How are you? Fine, thank you.

[scenic frost]

ohmagaaaaaa

i wish aayyee weere a beerdd

[gaunt geyser]

This

[scenic frost]

So it doesn't have to be hk related

[midnight oasis]

Its hk-offtopic not hk-topic

[lime briar]

kinda topic off hk when u think abt it

[brave blaze]

What software was Hk made on?

[undone chasm]

Unity

[brave blaze]

Alr thx

[undone chasm]

So if you wanted to create a mod for hk or something along those lines, to C# you go

[scenic frost]

Mmmm c#

[primal robin]

C tictactoe

[proven thorn]

True!

[sacred jacinth]

Who do yall think is harder pure vessel or nkg

[proven thorn]

Dunno

[midnight oasis]

ehhh I'd say they are about equal

[proven thorn]

Yeah same

[scenic frost]

Pure vessel

Pure vessel is more unpredictable

[ornate orbit]

it really depends on your playstyle

[quiet kayak]

no wya thommie mod.,..,,

[bleak osprey]

Tougher overall moves to master dodging. agreed. Never had trouble with nkg dance , its a go with the flow dance that can be perfectly mastered. The audio queues and soundtrack make it even more doable too to master.

[scenic frost]

Nkg is more like a pattern based boss

Oblobbles is harder than both tho

[long pumice]

I've perfected both and tbh it's hard to say, Pure Vessel manages to get you on some pretty tight situations meanwhile Grimm has a lot of space for movement

[bleak osprey]

For radiant probably yes haha.

[scenic frost]

Imo pv keeps you on your toes more

[long pumice]

Yeah

[bleak osprey]

Its tight no margin for error.

[scenic frost]

And that's because its attacks can weave into each other and end up comboing you

[ashen wadi]

pv has a lot of margin for error

[neat quiver]

I beat nkg and pv hitless but I can't beat marmu

[bleak osprey]

Try max nail range.

[scenic frost]

In nkg you get like a second between attacks, but pv's attacks moreso blend together

[scenic frost]

Try holding up and spamming nail

[bleak osprey]

Hard disagree one bad moment can combo you to death easily.

[long pumice]

valid same thing happened to me that's so valid

I beat absrad on radiant before marmu I'm not even joking rn

[midnight oasis]

dawg its not like PV disables Iframes

[scenic frost]

He's gonna go on about hitboxes and how easy pv is and shit

[ashen wadi]

not really

[midnight oasis]

The game has precautions to prevent comboing you to death

[ashen wadi]

pv's attacks don't come fast enough for that, and they have a long wind up

[scenic frost]

Pv without iframes sounds fun af

[long pumice]

Yeah, you can easily get away if you have a fast enough reaction time for it lol

[scenic frost]

Just chaos

[long pumice]

If there's a mod of that I'd definetly try it out

[ashen wadi]

pv will teleport away from you most of the time, you don't even have to find space it'll just give you space for free

[bleak osprey]

Pv is simply put a faster fight that requires better reaction times.

[scenic frost]

True

[ashen wadi]

it's not really faster than nkg

[long pumice]

Yeah

[scenic frost]

Not so much it being faster but moreso how its attacks can blend together.

[ashen wadi]

most attacks have like at least a half second telegraph

[ashen wadi]

they don't do that to any greater extent than nkg

[scenic frost]

They do it more than nkg

[ashen wadi]

both bosses have a pretty long pause in between attacks

[toxic nova]

tammo you should give help in hkdisc too

[ashen wadi]

ew no

[midnight oasis]

Based Tammo

[scenic frost]

I'd argue pv's is slightly less than nkg's

[gaunt geyser]

Pv is not really faster but more interactive. NKG summons attacks whereas pv has more moving hitboxes that you can also interact with (=pv slashes, jumps…). This being the windows for dealing damage makes it harder than following the identical pattern to get to nkg and then hit it once to repeat that very move

[midnight oasis]

hey wait what the-

[ashen wadi]

pv is way more generous with letting you do damage

that's true

[scenic frost]

This as well

[toxic nova]

that's basically hkdisc reg already

[gaunt geyser]

yo think so?

Depends on your skill level honestly

[ashen wadi]

they use some pretty similar attacks in general, nkg just doesn't let you hit him during the spikes

[scenic frost]

Pv and nkg are ez but failed champion is hard

[neat quiver]

fc' stagger cheese go brr

[midnight oasis]

Failed Champion goes down in one stagger

[bleak osprey]

Failed champion is free kill but only when i use quickslash/strength. Without those i mess up a lot on him weirdly enough

[scenic frost]

I died on failed champion in p5 once and now I hate him

Man fuck failed champion all my homies hate failed champion

[bleak gazelle]

I think I died to him too once

Still can be fun if you don’t just chain staggers

[scenic frost]

Failed champion watching me bonk him on the armor and reading his thoughts for soul

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-meme-black-guy-jslutty-gif-27588609

[gaunt geyser]

Players more confident in pv will have relatively less trouble in that fight as they dont have to find workarounds for damage. Instead they can and will punish during the attacks and at every possible time.

This makes it more reactive. Its faster regarding what you have to do but slower if you are just dodging.

Nkg Is different, you nearly always have to move your way through or at least avoid the attacks prior to attacking yourself.
Dodging is relatively easy; its all the very identical setup everytime however this doesnt allow as much improvement because you can not avoid first having to dodge before making your own move.

The skill curve is very different, pv gives you more room for improvement but taking the opportunities is also tied to higher risks.

[lost verge]

PV is an endurance boss, NKG is a speed boss

[ashen wadi]

NKG has a lot of the same attack opportunities pv does

[lost verge]

Both are a test of different skill sets

[ashen wadi]

You can hit him during most attacks, and fire pillars are basically a free damage state

[lost verge]

Mhmm

[ashen wadi]

And like pv a lot of the damage opportunities are during attacks

[midnight oasis]

Fire pillars

[ashen wadi]

They’re similar fights in how you approach them

[lost verge]

Sharp Shadow for NKG is kinda goated

[midnight oasis]

I get a slow attack is fine and all but like you can dodge that by holding map and left or right

[bleak osprey]

Ill speak with numbers. Nkg was around 3 hours of tries when i was actually terrible at the game on first run. Truly terrible. Pv took 5 hours or so, even though it was on 3rd playthrough and after having played the game for 100 hours. Insane difference.

[ashen wadi]

And?

[scenic frost]

It took me exactly 35 tries to beat nkg on first run.

I didn't count for pv but it wasn't thaat much more

[midnight oasis]

OK

[scenic frost]

That speaks to where your specialty regarding hollow knight's skill lies, not the core difficulty of the boss.

[midnight oasis]

what attack do you use sharp shadow on

[scenic frost]

Yeah what lol

[ashen wadi]

You can use it on dash but it’s worse than just pogo

[scenic frost]

Just pogo his goofy ass

[ashen wadi]

And uppercut ig but it’s even worse there because you can often get two hits

[scenic frost]

I wish I had quickslash when I fought nkg for the first time

Would've made it a lot easier

[midnight oasis]

not just for NKG sharp shadow just isn't good for like the entirety of the bosses

[scenic frost]

"sharp shadow is so good!!!" Kid named pogo:

[tired pollen]

Why does pure vessel give me mantis lords vibes

[midnight oasis]

I haven't found a single attack where it does more damage than just pogoing

[ashen wadi]

Consistent attacks at regular intervals

[scenic frost]

Probably because his dashing animation looks like mantis lords dash animation

Kind of

Not really

[tired pollen]

It has the dash, the down slash, and the projectiles which are (not really) kinda like the mantis lords fight

[lost verge]

Flame Pillars and spikes I believe

[midnight oasis]

spikes???

[lost verge]

For pillars it lets you get extra damage without taking damage

[scenic frost]

How on earth does sharp shadow help with either of those

[ashen wadi]

He’s… not even in the arena during spikes

[scenic frost]

(hitting the pillars doesn't deal damage)

[lost verge]

Spikes are actually perfect spacing for sharp

[midnight oasis]

Just... walk

[lost verge]

Not using it for damage there

[scenic frost]

But why??? You can't deal and damage

[midnight oasis]

or dash

[ashen wadi]

Then it does nothing

[lost verge]

It’s a quick recovery

[scenic frost]

Why???? The whole purpose of sharp shadow is to do damage

[lost verge]

Shadow lengthens dash

[scenic frost]

It literally just makes your dash deal damage lmfao

[outer birch]

no its to get longer dash

[lost verge]

No it also lengthens shade cloak dash lol

[ashen wadi]

Which doesn’t help you with spikes since you can just… move

[midnight oasis]

Pillars isn't particularly good to use Sharp Shadow, I believe you lose damage when attacking a still target with SS

[lost verge]

^

[scenic frost]

Just walk. Why would you waste the notches for that

[lost verge]

Because placement for that can be inconsistent

[midnight oasis]

not really

[scenic frost]

Just move out the way and use the notches for something else

[lost verge]

Better to have a safety net for things like PoH

[scenic frost]

If you have trouble with spikes then maybe you should practice a little harder

[ashen wadi]

If position of the spikes being inconsistent is a problem for you then it’ll still be a problem with sharp shadow

[neat quiver]

Just walk? You can hit nkg like 4 times during this attack

[lost verge]

I don’t have trouble, it’s just inconsistent where they spawn and where I’m at

[ashen wadi]

Then it will still be inconsistent with ss

[scenic frost]

That's the point. Walk 4 cm and you're safe.

[lost verge]

He’s not on screen for spikes

[ashen wadi]

Sharp shadow doesn’t change where the spikes are

[lost verge]

It changes how far you can dash Tammo lol

As I’ve already said

[scenic frost]

That doesn't mean anything lmfaoo

[ashen wadi]

That doesn’t make it more consistent

[midnight oasis]

Which doesn't affect where the spikes are

[scenic frost]

That doesn't make anything more consistent

[midnight oasis]

or how consistent they are

[ashen wadi]

There’s just no actual step from your evidence to your claim

[lost verge]

It does because the spacing between spikes with extended dash fits more consistently from personal experience

[midnight oasis]

What

[ashen wadi]

That makes no sense at all

[lost verge]

Or at least it does in my runs shrug

[ashen wadi]

Nothing is affecting consistency

[scenic frost]

wha??

[ashen wadi]

So confirmation bias go brrr

[scenic frost]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-cat-stoned-stoned-cat-gif-25615600

Confirmation bias moment ngl

[midnight oasis]

guh-cat-stoned-stoned-cat-gif

Why is it named that

[lost verge]

I’m not stating it as an objective fact, it’s just better for my reaction speed shrug

[scenic frost]

Idfk

[midnight oasis]

who got the cat stoned

[lost verge]

Whatever gets me my PoH clears works for me

May not work for everyone

[ashen wadi]

People do it charmless that doesn’t mean charmless is good

[scenic frost]

Ah whatever, if it works it works

[scenic frost]

But charmless is badass 😎😎

[lost verge]

Unless it’s an objectively upgraded damage or health buff nothing is objectively good really

Everything else is biased to playstyle

[ornate orbit]

Charms are generally buffs

[scenic frost]

Oh no guys tammo discovers the word objective and subjective again 😱

[lost verge]

Buffs to certain playstyles

[ornate orbit]

Still buffs tho

[lost verge]

If someone sucks at using spells, using Shaman won’t help them

[lost verge]

Not the point tho

[ornate orbit]

What’s the point

[ashen wadi]

Claiming sshadow was good for nkg

[toxic nova]

true
like jonis in a healing build

[ashen wadi]

Then backpedaled to “I just like it”

[lost verge]

The point is what may be helpful for someone may not be helpful for everyone

[ornate orbit]

No, of life

[lost verge]

I didn’t backpedal anything lol

[ornate orbit]

I just don’t understand it

[lost verge]

You just assumed I was being objective in my statement

[toxic nova]

hi dragoncorn how's art

[lost verge]

Nb

Slow

[toxic nova]

non binary?

[lost verge]

Not bad

[ornate orbit]

Sharp Shadow can be good if you like using it yeah

[scenic frost]

What does nb

Oh ok

[midnight oasis]

"Sharp shadow makes the spikes more consistent" doesn't really work as an objective nor subjective claim

[ornate orbit]

It certainly buffs some things

[ashen wadi]

It’s an attempt at objectivity that flounders because it is total nonsense

[lost verge]

As a statement to personal experience….yeah it does lol

It was more consistent for me, I got hit less often

[ornate orbit]

Were you offering advice?

[lost verge]

I was commenting on my time with a boss from personal experience

[ashen wadi]

“I’m my personal experience it’s perfectly safe to walk out into traffic because I haven’t gotten hit by a car yet”

[scenic frost]

That's a pure subjective claim. Not objective.

[midnight oasis]

Your personal experience doesn't dictate how consistent the spikes are

[lost verge]

I’m not claiming it does?

[ashen wadi]

Yes you were

[midnight oasis]

Subjectively the spikes aren't more consistent

[lost verge]

I was commenting on my experience with a boss from personal experience

[midnight oasis]

because thats utter nonsense

[scenic frost]

She said that she dodges more consistently with ss

[lost verge]

Okay so you just misread what I meant then?

[scenic frost]

Do y'all not have eyes

[ashen wadi]

Nope

[echo nimbus]

Why on earth is everyone arguing

[ashen wadi]

The spacing isn’t at all changed

[lost verge]

I dunno, it’s a bit dumb

[ornate orbit]

What spikes

[scenic frost]

You're readin it wrong ngl

[ashen wadi]

NKG’s floor spikes

[lost verge]

Bro I’m talking about dodge spacing

[ornate orbit]

Oh the ones it summons

[ashen wadi]

Which is also equally consistent

[echo nimbus]

Wait so is everyone just arguing whether it's easier to dodge nkg spikes with sharp shadow?

[ornate orbit]

This shouldn’t be an argument

[ashen wadi]

Nothing is more or less consistent with sshadow, sshadow dodge length isn’t variable nor is the normal dash

[ornate orbit]

Use sharp shadow if you want

[ashen wadi]

Nobody’s saying you can’t use it

[echo nimbus]

Dude if it works for you then use it why is this a debate

[lost verge]

Y’all jumping to assume I thought the floor spikes changed spacing is a bit wild

[ashen wadi]

Nothing changes spacing

[toxic nova]

hkdisc behavior

[ashen wadi]

Your argument logically necessitates that something changed

You can just say “oh that’s bad wording” you don’t have to pretend you didn’t say what you said

[lost verge]

I’m not even really the one debating atm I’m being challenged over thinking SS makes my NKG runs more consistent lmfao

[ornate orbit]

Tammo you are taking this way seriously

Both of you don’t need to be in this argument

[ashen wadi]

This isn’t what you said but clearly you have no intent of copping to what appears to be an error you recognize so whatever

[midnight oasis]

🤡

[echo nimbus]

Yeah no kidding does nobody have anything better to do than argue whether an item is good for a fight or not

[ornate orbit]

To be fair arguments like this happen a lot

[echo nimbus]

I don't personally use sharp shadow that often but when I do I think it's alright

[ashen wadi]

It’s better than some charms

[midnight oasis]

Sharp shadow haters are just blind to the truth

They hate free damage

[midnight oasis]

cough glowing womb