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Jesus
rr.
ye be askin' for trouble, matey!
My trusty pirate senses be tellin' me this challenge ain't for the good heros. It's only for the bad crew mates.
Go sleep and goodnight mate you'll dream that I did it and therefore you will wake up eatan that carpet.
If I can sleep
Oh, you will eventually...
How about ye walk the plank and perform a d&-
no need lmao.
I don't wanna go far away like how my ship did.
yall making me go insane.
I love how your ship just obliterates a vengfly in your banner
oh it seems like you want me to turn out that SoS and come knock down that roach in your room.
Its stuck in a web now
I wonder does the Knight get eepy sleepy

Saddening imo
I'm not gonna eep
Good🌽
I only sleep 6 times a week
I only sleep .1 time a week
i eep 14 times a week
hello hollow knight channel
Hello silliest of geese
I am glad to have earned this tital
spoopi
It is truly an honor
I don't remember that happening
Heya everyone
I have been listening to too much sleeping with sirens I have 400 plays of sws yesterday 😔
I am still waking up typing is an issue atm
based honestly but have you been listening to ANYTHING else or just them
hello gwen 
Ive been listening to others but I always go back to sws
Demi 
Hello jobless autumn
I only go into this channel when off topic is dead
as it appears not much is going on in here either lol
Lets cheer to this is such a good album
I like sleeping with actual sirens
don't they like eat you
Every fucking time I mention sws bro 😭
It's a curse. They've cursed you
They lure you out to sea with their song and then drown and consume you
So uhh no sleeping is gonna happen
I'm an exception
I listened to mostly sws from 6 am until midnight
you are most certainly not the only exception
Are vilifying me
excuse me
Excuse ME. MISS.
It isnt vilifying if it's true
link reference
omg, that almost happened to me irl.
:0
the cat actually was so hungry to the point where it climb half the way.
It was not my cat
I will never leave a cat hungry
Does anyone have the maid moss picture
please if so, don't send it here. Go to dm
I FRICKING DID ABSRAD
Is this...
was you watching me fighting that stupid moth
How many journal entries do you need for hunters mark?
hi laranjoo
!wiki Hunter`s journal
https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Hunter's_Journal
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page Hunters journalfor a direct link or!wiki search Hunters journal for a list of all hits.
the wiki link above 👀
it tells the entries you need at least 
and where you get them
hey space
yes
Praise to her light.
Praise to her might.
Praise to the gods.
One divine right.
I have one goods amullets for pre-hornet?
Hornet2 or hornet1?
2
I will use this soul catcher,shaman stone and quick slash
?shamans id
?ammulets id
IS THAT MOBILE?!
he is EZ
I play with my fingers (I have no control)
i think that is this (im not english)
i only speak portuguese lol
soul tyrant ez
Yep i killed
it is baby!
It's called styrant
In mobile
I dont think I could play hollow knight on mobile. looks way too hard to control
Someone that have all amulets can print for me to i know the i no have?
Every absrad fighter be like-
basically
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👍
hk off topic so nostalgic 
True.
Whats the easiest soul boss
elder hu if you have shade cloak
they're all pretty easy
marmu
marmu is kinda bullshit imp
marmu you just upslash she's very easy
The ones you brutally murdered but on steroids
lk and soul tyrant are both not that much harder than their base forms
soul warrior I guess?
all of them are free
Yes
God i always hated saul manipulators and saul master
Now i gotta fight the one on steroids
Sjivnwlx brb im gonna try not to die
ok i already hate this
Ima try grey prince zote which is a much easier one [[real]] 
@ashen wadi i can finally first try balteus without pulse weapons
nice
soak him in milk and launch him at a nearby wall with a fucking trebuchet
Skill Issue
Nah soul tyrant is significantly harder
ehhh
The speed makes it such a different, harder experience
he just teleports more and has his attacks sped up a bit
That simple speed increase makes him so much harder tbh
once he summons those six orbs it's free
he also doesn't do fakeouts iirc which are the only attacks soul master had that can realistically hit you
he does in his dive attack
Lost Kin isn't in the same boat because he doesn't teleport
He does fakeouts
you still dodge the same
and attack the same
soul tyrant is not very dangerous
Yeah but its harder because you gotta be so much faster
it's not much faster 
like at least modify more than 1 of his attacks
or add new ones
or just increase damage like a wimp
increasing damage would at least make him not toothless
Y'all act like every boss refight isn't the same way
Im not
most of them have more significant changes or are faster to a much greater degree
Speaking of the scholars
lk and st are particularly small difficulty increases
Why do they have so many barrels of gruzzer milk in the sanctum
for what purpose do they need that
could be blood
you telling me mantises dont explode into gruzzer milk upon death?
no mantes live entirely on the stuff, but city bugs bleed white
(when uninfected)
ig for it to be blood it would have to be super old
ok why were hallownest bugs transporting barrels of blood across the entire kingdom
still
It's in greenpath, CoT, SS, everywhere
I wouldnt be surprised if it was in the distant village or white palace
right channel actually
Its hk offtopic
Stop that
He.. He.. He didn't watch his language..
should automute
Woah what
don't worry about it
seriously what have I done
not you
didn't miss anything
I can't believe you were born in 1976
who
You
My name clearly says Anas76 not Anaswhowasbornin1976
Same thing
Lol
Anas76 was at first Anas&D.76 but decided to make it shorter
D.76 is something else
Almost there
Whatever you say
Nice
Only the final boss and Radience left
You could beat absrad with a lot of practice, but markoth is just impossible
I feel like you're the type of guy to make a good joke then ruin it as soon as people laugh
I am
W
fans of other games when they get an update: oh cool
hk fans when something is vaguely connected/related to silksong: EHIRKFKSJKEITJRJDJDBBRHJRIR f-cking dies
myself included
Silksong? What's that, a fangame?/j
fr 😔
I think it's some urban legend or smth
because silksong doesnt exist
Because i did that joke once and a guy thought i was being serious
Man I don't care it completely ruins the joke
yup
If people think you're serious go along with it nerd
Silksong? What's that, a fangame? GUYS!!!!! JOKE ALERT!!! THIS IS A JOKE
KarK stop.
lmao
Ty
I'm boutta say something that will make ismoil mad
do it
The first two Kung Fu Panda movies are better than both spiderverse movies
mrholeio was never seen again
Send the flamewars my way 
I'm ready
I mean I haven't seen the second one but the overall consensus seems to be that it's not as good as the first
So my point still stands
honestly
just stop having opinions on things
Why
Why did jonkler delay silksong? Is he stupid?
Which second one
Across the spiderverse
Across the spiderverse is better than into the spiderverse
Which is a rare occurence
i think into the spiderverse is better
Because usually the origin story is better than the 2nd movie
They are very close, but the ending to across the spiderverse is what makes me like it more
the ending to across the spiderverse is what makes me dislike it more
i don't like cliffhangers
Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2 are better than both 
Honestly? Just stop having opinions on things. Tch.
uhhhhhhhh
hi chat
Into the Spiderverse was incredible but not AS good as everyone says it is.
I don't get the "best animated movie ever made" hype
Honestly! DO have opinions on things! 👼
Rango is better aswell
bcz I dislike your opinion and that makes me angry so now I need to force my own opinion upon you
do you want me to be a monotone robot
exactly
you see, as a human I dislike those who have different views to my own
W
But there isn't a #592272945901207562 in this server
opinion on rocks
kind of bland? I mean I like the texture.. and some are extremely salty which is cool.
ok cool
i like pebbles
your profile picture is cool
thanks
silksorry
being mean
i made this profile picture like half a year ago in 2 minutes and its been my "default" profile picture ever since
if i dont have an idea this is the way to go. its perfect
I'd make fanart of it
Hi guys
actually pretty cool
made my current pfp a year ago ish but I remastered it more or less
i remastered the one im wearing right now 2 times put they're not profile picture worthy
nice lmfao
currently trying to remaster it again
the dead eyes
I love it, looks like they did something bad but have no remorse
It looks like it murders kittens without any idea what the concept of murder is
mecore
i love it
i was so nervous i almost died at the last hit omfg
you must be some sorta god- how do you do that on a phone
insane practice
congrats! 
your laugh is contagious
also congrats on mobile that's hella insane dude

mobile player detected (WELL FUCKING DONE MAN DAMN)
the fact that they even got to absrad is impressive let alone beat her
im gonna get around finishing celeste ONE DAY
im gonna complete farewell ONE DAY
I just got dunked on by a owl
ik someone whos done pv rad on mobile lol
radnkg too
i have rad nkg lol
I thought grimm was my friend
can i meet them and give them a tiny pat on the back
@tidal pier
@tidal pier tiny pat on the back
mobile players fucking scare me i can't even get through pop on mobile let alone the radiance

and this guy is here getting radpv and radnkg I'm honestly terrified but it's also quite admirable
i have ascended pv, i need to prac more to rad
I'm honestly glad that hk on mobile is technically illegal
cause nobody should make such torture official
what do you mean it IS illegal
ouch
Did Path of Pain for 10 minutes
Never again.
I have too large of a skill issue to do that
Working on my sisters costume now
It's not too bad if you go in with the right charms. Just takes a while
I'm gonna practice in the normal white palace on the upper part before I commit Path of Pain
tim!
I had
Hive blood
Quick slash
Longnail
Grubsong
What I usually use
I wouldn't use long nail. Makes a few segments more annoying imo
Oh ok
Otherwise, it's good
I'm just bad at platforming
Yeah lol. I'm not great at platforming either. It's very rewarding to pull off tho
I'd recommend doing trial of the fool before NKG and pantheons
Yeah I'm gonna try
Did you manage to get red fabric?
The thing with HK is that I get overwhelmed with things happening and my poor hand-eye-coordination makes me just freak out and do whatever
Surprised I even got this far
Yeah, I used to do that a lot. I can't exactly describe how to not do that
You planning on attempting P5?
SHAWWW
Yes, so I can at least try to get better and better at the game

Wait do I have to beat all bosses on radiant for 112%?
Good luck with that, it takes a lot of effort. I finally was able to do it about a month ago (after a year of having a major skill issue)
no
Ok
No
No. Don't have to do P5 either
Did you get the speedrun achievments yet?
Chat are we ready for october???? (Christmas month)
I can't wait to listen to 'All I want for Christmas is You' in about a week
YEAHHHHH
This month is packed and i didnt realize it
Were getting the har har ha har har movie
For my next trick, I'll say that christmas is better than halloween
The new batman videogame in oct 20
Don't forget Super Mario Bros Wonder
And that one sonic on drugs game in october 20 too
So much great stuff comin out this month
Whats that
No but I am gonna try
New Mario Bros game that's ALSO coming out on Oct. 20
...
This is gonna be another barbenheimer situation
No i dont think thats a thing youre confusing it with that one sonic drug game
Batmario sweep >>>>>
My guy its a joke 
My guy I don't give a shit
I pulled it up before you even said that just to see when it releases
Aha yeah
Even if I didn't that doesn't mean I don't give a shit if its a joke or not
I bet you also know batmario aint a thing
As long as you know where to go, they're both super easy to do
Sadly...
Arent we also getting the among us movie
I'm gonna kill myself now thanks
Why its true innersloth made an announcement a while ago iirc
Jesus please no
I dont remember if it was october or november
More people would be talking about it if it came out this month
I know the False Knight skip and Blue Lake skip, but I am really bad at any acid skips
Then its november sad
Watch it be the best movie to come out in the past five years somehow
Welp mariah carey x among us is never bad
I did my run with very little skips and had like 2 or 3 hours left lol
Why are you talking like thats unlikely??
i got monarch wings just to go through the crossroads fog canyon acid skip easier for the 5h achievement
Because fnaf movie exists
The hard part is doing with the bosses with very little upgrades
And
Fnaf movie will sweep and everyone will be sufficiently gobsmacked
Nah itll sell and be kinda lame
Among us movie def >>>>
Fnaf vs amongus who wins
I once got to mantis claw in like 15 minutes
Just went right to Hornet and lead back to crossroads and into the fungal wastes
What other movies are there coming out soon that fnaf movie could beat in sales
Among us
Itll beat every in sales doesnt mean itll be good
If the among us movie isn't animated I will riot
Ladies and gents best animated movie ever engineered by human hands
The life action ver was confirmed to be at least 2027+ sw its animated
So I made it to herrah and uh, why are these guys telling me to sit and rest?
Sit and rest.
Sit
They restore ur health
You are tired. Sit and rest.
Just sit.
Have a seat.
Mostly cause youve traveled trough deepnest
You are very tired. sit and relax.
Don’t tell him
If you sit you get 1,000,000 geo
That place can be tiring imo
Also its the only bench in like 9000kilometers they wanna promote it
That’s right
WHAAAAAAATT POGGERSSSS
Basically free sales
For free so better sit
post it again people may not have seen it 
Id think they would know benches refill health
I did
OH YEAH BABY @winter jolt
WAIT WHAT THE FUCKKKKK
Double ping
Congrats you just got 1,000,000 geo
Average friday

Trust me I'm a British scammer Prince
Yeah turns out going to the casino before giving out the cash price wasnt a good idea
who would buy this
I thought that said discord OS
thankgod
Yall does the HK community have a general name for the trio of "||NKG, Pure Vessel, and ABSRAD||"? I am making a video and was wondering
The digital monsters
also I know this channel doesnt need spoilers I just like to do them anyway
Really? How have I not heard that?
I'm sorry...
final p5 bosses 
thats a very non-climactic title
idk what else defines them more
Those 3 bosses that were pretty ez
I just call them "annoying ass idiots" more than anything tbh
None of them really have anything in common so theres not a name like "nightmare trio"
I beg to differ?
sadly
You got the god of emptiness, light, and nightmares
All pretty much polar opposites
We should as. A community call them the gamers
Burp
the gendered fluid
Why traitor lord doesn't have a theme?
he would if he didn't betray the mantis lords
It's funny because you're fighting a very intense and important boss while the calm and happy queen garden's theme plays in the background
Helps to cool down the stress
extra relaxing gameplay
Smetty
He was quite rushed iirc
Finally after 59 hours and 32 minutes I've gotten the dream no more ending
Boy do I suck at hollow knight
Time for colo 3 and pantheons
Get ready for your time to double, lol
I did it
Hi 63 hours in rn
Hola
It took me a 95 hr save file to beat P5 on my first playthrough
I still gotta do markoth
Yeah, lol
this server has so many emojis I wanna use so many of them
I'm too lazy to find a use for most of them, lol
fair
Skill Issue, get gud
I know how to dodge and attack him on every attack without taking damage
this guy
I just have bad execution
Basically just find ways to beat the fight quickly and without taking damage. Every hit counts
I know
this one too
I'd also recommend not using spells

I can get 2 hits of on every attack except for one

Abyss shriek is good for one attack though
Apart from that I don't use soells
actually brothers was the first "hard" battle i did on radiant XD
Oblobbles was the first hard one for me
Simple answer; try not to die. Im being serious. I know it sounds stupid, but if you actually THINK about it.. It helps.

oblobbles fucking suck
worst boss
they aren't thag bad ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I love my little sister sm "hey im gonna be hornet from the new game I got for halloween instead of a costume together" "can we match and you be hornet?"
God shes so sweet
I have the best sister ever
I don't like them >:(
Skill Issue, get gud
In Hollow Knight proper, you can find Aphlian's remains. Next to a Stalking Devout, their cloak tattered and dull, grayed out
Idk I tried making something up and I found that Vessel who had horns similar to Aphlian, so :0
i am lifeblood
(its almost off of my screen lol)
just beat failed champion, now i gotta do nkg, pv, and absrad
THIS MIGHT BE IT
errrr..


depression
? how
who knows how to get money fast
Is this AnyRad
i need 2000 for the nail upgrade
This geo collection loop I devised should be faster than any other method you find on YouTube, except that OOB one I posted the other day (but this one's much easier). Soul is self sustaining. Rate of gain will be in the neighbourhood of 715 geo per minute give or take a nickel. Charm loadout is shown at the end of the clip but it's NMG Twister ...
thx bro
you can do colloseum of fools too
or just failed tramway oob for 20,000 geo/minute
Yea true tell that to a new player
Hi sooo bored
Will do thank you
i am playing on mobile
Congrats on pirating the game ig Idk
no i mean

Still not entirely sure why playing on mobile is relevant
yeah but the phone isn't 
idk get it from media fire
yeah like my
i bought hollow knight twice
Find out
uhh maybe dont tell people where to pirate games 
bitdefender 💀
like there is mod also
i am kinda good at the mobile
just got monarc wings
no i swear to god its all skill
i play hollow knight on apple watch i beat p5
show it to us
beat any radiance
right here right now
i beat any radiance 3.0 too on it
dont go to deepnest very scary!!!!!!!!!!!!
dark souls ptsd
bro they made also of the funnt australian guy with mustache
I got my last mask shard after 11 hours
epok
That’s what was messing mine up
guys what yall think about matpat theory on hk?
youtube kids be like
any of skibidi toilet?
rlly?
like bro why it just toilets and idk fighting
my cousin is watching it rn
he is losing braincells
skibidi rizzler from ohio 😝 😂 🤣
so funny
they are 4 guys making gaming on the general voice channel
2 are terraria 1 is dark souls and other is hk
it is on my phone ring
so good
my mom just says what the hell is that phone ring?
and my class just laughs when it plays
like the most silent time then boom
better caul saul
it is more meme
imagine phoneix wirth ace annomty x better call saul
i watched like the first season of breaking bad i should start watching it again
ok guys bye i am going to farm for the nail
Its blatantly untrue and quite frankly heavily detracts from the main themes of the game aswell as PK and TK's character
And do parkour to the hallownest’s crown in crystal peaks if you haven’t already
What do you use pale ore for after you get the max nail
I haven’t got the one from the well in the basin sooo i was curious
Maybe let people play metroidvania,non-liniar game, however they want?
The watcher knights fight in godhome lasts way longer because the each have 350 hp not 220 and you need to fight 6 not 5
No it’s 220
Check wiki
Part of the game
There’s also ghosts
I get why markoth died it’s because he couldn’t fly and his nail and shield didn’t float
All dream warriors are probably a lot stronger as ghosts
He probably just used his nail and shield like a normal enemy
How does an easy boss become the hardest when on radiant
The knight can use dream shield so markoth probably had that but he probably used his nail normally and obviously couldn’t fly
b

Why did they make Snow White Latina tho
And for the dwarves it was a good opportunity to actually have good representation but they blew it
At this point just cast shaq as one of the dwarves
It’s already a joke
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Why does everyone I love in hollow knight have to die
Mods can we execute this harlot
damn guess im getting banned again
Thank God
there are actually plenty of NPCs that don't die
Those ones are boring though
there are several sad ones though, idk which one you are referring to 😦
cornifer is cool
He pretty much dies he sleeps forever so he starves to death
Deaderbug is a gift to our society
😭
I need the mod lol
why are you crying
Elderbug is literally the stereotype of a conservative in a backwater alleyway why are you sad about his demise
elderbug just wants to have his nice little town and help people
Deaderbug
also Mr. Mushroom doesn't die, does he count as a cool NPC?
He's not particularly good at helping people and that doesn't make him any less garbage
ik what its called but I can't find it online
well you still haven't named a reason why he's garbage
He's a passive agressive moron
xenophobic too
grimm troupe is creepy and they aren't here for a good reason
He's not a sweet ol cinnamon bun who is a nice grandpa to TK like the fandom portrays him as
That's not why he insults them
he is scared by them
He insults them by calling them "grotesque strangers"
well he doesn't insult Tiso does he?
he insults Brumm's music but is perfectly happy with Nimm
That's not an insult based on creepiness thats an insult based on foreignness
and they are grotesque, even if also strangers
Brumm is still serving the troupe, Nimm isn't
also please elaborate on "they aren't here for a good reason"
They aren't evil they are just doing a ritual to sustain their god
They are here to disturb the kingdom's nightmares
they are here to gather the kingdoms nightmares*
they're just having a bit of fun 
That's not evil who is it going to disrespect? The corpse of a kingdom?
read Brumm's dialogue, I think it does cause great suffering to ghosts
I just did and no he doesn't say that, what a surprise
"Perhaps together we can banish that livid flame and let this dead Kingdom rest in peace."
discord users when asked to read
I'm sorry for disagreeing with you 😭
That's not equal to "the ghosts are disturbed"
well remember Jiji warns that "who knows what suffering [helping the troupe] could cause"
It's looting at best
And?
We help the troupe and we see no suffering
and when we harvest regular essence we also have to kill ghosts, which Revek tries to protect the ghosts in spirits glade against
Those ghosts are part of the ritual and willingly help it
you mean grimmkin?
silksong release date
unknown
Across these lands my kin now spread, harvesting that essence peculiar to my... breed, the flame in dream.
Yes but we mostly seem to be setting their souls free from their dialogue before and after the fight
the word "now" proves that the grimm kin weren't there before, so they aren't the ultimate source of the essence. They are getting it from innocent ghosts
or maybe some that aren't innocent
Source that they are harvesting them from ghosts
It's nightmare essence that's in question
not essence spirits
you mean Revek in particular?
Bruh I've only got 60 hours on this game maybe I'm stupid I'm sorry 😭😭😭
hours doesn't matter, you aren't stupid 
you aren't stupid that's just not what Revek says
It's a masterpiece on god tho. I've nearly cried a couple times
Like after the traitor king fight
Upon killing all the spirits he just says "Man I feel like I failed but idk what I was doing"
She was just learning to have courage
I can see both sides of the argument, since the game itself doesn't directly show any consequences of the grimm troupe. However, since basically everyone who references them mentions the sinister effect of their ritual on the kingdom, I think it's more likely that there is something terrible occurring, just related to nightmare essence spirits.
I dont see how Jiji or Elderbug would be a reliable source on the troupe
Jiji isn't even saying its a certainty she's just saying to be cautious
Elderbug sure
I mean i think its more their just loud and elder bug doesn't like that
I love him but I would agree he probably knows very little, other than his sixth sense telling him they are trouble
they're just being a little silly they're not doing anything
Brumm's dialogue is enough to convince me
Brumm criticizes the troupe for doing the same task over and over again, not the suffering on the kingdom it will cause
ignoring the fact that the non-grimmkin members of the troupe, with perhaps the exception of Divine, seem to be manipulated by the heart, I still think the evil of the ritual extends beyond the troupe based on what he said
he does both
where
also, and this is just a personal thing, but I think it would be a bit silly if the grimm troupe's ritual had no impact on anything else. Again, that's just a personal thing, but I think the (admittedly small) evidence we have points otherwise.
"Let the dead kingdom rest in piece" is because they are looting it, not because of any negative affects it will cause
who else is going to use the nightmare essence
If it was just like looting geo I don't think this sentence would make sense
it's not about the utility, it's about the spirits having some level of consciousness and not deserving to be harvested
Reading comprehension moment
I'm sorry for disagreeing with you 😭
What y'all yappin about
nightmare essence isn't spirits idk where you got that from
I don't get that from anywhere, but you can use hints when the game points you in a direction
You aren't disagreeing with me you are just taking conclusions that dont follow from my sentences
like what
I've said it multiple times
Essence is quote "The fragments of light that make up dreams (mind)", nightmare essence being born from fallen kingdoms suggests it is the thoughts spawned from the fall of that kingdom (fearful thoughts)
and just while we're at it, I checked the howling cliffs dialogue. It says this "It is painful to defy the Master, but our harvest... it profanes this dark, quiet Kingdom. This once, I would see the Ritual fail."
It is a bit disrespectful yes but its not evil or negative
again its not harming anybody its just distasteful
would you say it's distasteful to loot a bunch of geo?
well okay I guess you are entitled to your interpretation of the lore
but I wouldn't consider that to matter if no one can use it
what?
if it's a lump of geo sitting a mile away from anyone other than husks then it's worthless basically unless someone can get it
I really don't see that as profaning hallownest or disturbing its peace
Its disrespectful to loot stuff spawned from the death of a kingdom 
Its like animals eating corpses, disrespectful but not really evil
look idk about you but I, at least, will admit that this is open to interpretation and there isn't enough evidence to say one way or another
what
you can't say random nonsense and then say "there isn't enough evidence to say one way or another", hitchens razor
well in my opinion your logic has more jumps
not really when looting nightmare essence is directly stated in game
how
^
that just says that the grimmkin are going to harvest the essence
all we can gather from that is that the essence exists throughout the kingdom and the grimm kin will somehow collect it
and from Brumm's dialogue I believe it most likely that they are collecting it from some spirits the same way as we collect regular essence
we dont exclusively collect essence from spirits
yes but no one says anything bad about us using trees
that's why I added the "from Brumm's dialogue" part
essence exists pretty much everywhere people think so idk why you would assume they are collecting it from hypothetical nightmare spirits
it also appears to take the form of a flame, not a dead person
after the grimmkin have already harvested it
idk why that would change its form
we never see where it comes from, we just know from that grimm quote you sent that it was there before the grimmkin got there
it's also spawned from a kingdoms fall, implying its all the fearful thoughts (or nightmares) produced during that time rather than spirits as previously mentioned
it's probably not the same as regular spirits
and if you want us to use a different word than "spirits" then sure
what are they then
okay we can call them "nightmares" if you really want
the only argument against the dialogue Brumm gives is that somehow harvesting anything from the kingdom is disrespectful
what?
and that there's no suffering caused by the ritual because it's just like getting geo
no its harvesting stuff spawned from a sad event
its like collecting your grandmas tears after her dog dies and using them for salt in a dish
It's also relevant to bring up that spirits are just memories and not conscious things, killing them isn't immoral
well that's your opinion then
no its not
Brumm and Revek disagree but you are entitled to your opinion and can dream nail as many ghosts as you want when you play the game
they may not be fully conscious but they are at least partially conscious since they can interract with the player
Sometimes dreams take the shape of those who have passed away. Such dreams are bountiful sources of Essence!
They aren't the original person, they are memories repeating what they know
Dreamnailing ghosts also doesn't kill them
Seer mentions she can see a lot of memories peering back at her in the dream nail
They are storted intact
okay, you can find someone in the game who agrees with you. I can too. Further proof that this is up to opinion.
what
sentence
opinion this opinion that
Not everything is an opinion because they dont explicitly say stuff
I'm sorry you want everything to agree with your opinion
its not an opinion
but there is actual dialogue in the game that doesn't so sorry
It's an assertion
take it up with TC I guess
what 
I didn't make the game, if I did I would make stuff agree with your opinion as long as you gave me a cookie
but I didn't and TC wasn't aware of this deal so they didn't make everything agree with your opinion
I'm sorry but it's really not my fault
Opinions are like preferences and stuff
These arent preferences these are assertions
you can't seriously argue that no one in the game is against harvesting ghosts
Please dont try to make me look unreasonable or dumb by going "Hah she doesn't like people who disagree with her opinions"
well I'm sorry TC added Revek's dialogue
I guess maybe they should've cut it so that there wouldn't be anything that disagreed with you
Again you are trying to portay this as a matter of opinion and not concrete to make me seem unreasonable
Revek doesn't change what I said nor does he have a concrete understanding of dreams
You're agreeing with some NPCs and not others
and then claiming that the NPCs you agree with are canonical
I don't want this to be too heated
the
then articulate stuff in a calm way rather than opting to paint me as sensitive and not wanting anyone to differ from my opinion
Im not actually going to continue this further if you are going to continue being disrespectful and not actually read.
so this is calm?
I'm sorry but I think you escalated the situation too (in my opinion before I did)
That may have not been the nicest term but it's not inaccurate
I think what I said is accurate too
Your claims were all either baseless or non sequitur
you are literally keeping this heated
not really no
your claims were just you cherrypicking dialogue you agree with and ignoring dialogue that directly contradicts you
All my recent statements dont really come off as unnecessarily harsh or abrasive
you can say that
I can say that too, so how about we both calm down?
I am not cherrypicking dialogue and have already adressed Revek and Brumm
"I agree with Seer and not Revek" is not addressing the dialogue
That's not what I said
I have better things to do and I am going to leave now before I actually get angry
you said that there's nothing wrong with dream nailing ghosts
and I said that that was an opinion
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obviously Revek thinks there's something wrong with it
does that mean there OBJECTIVELY is, no
so that's where personal interpretation comes in
thats what you were saying?
I assumed you were talking about my statement that they are just memories and that dreamnailing them doesn't kill them
Im not sure what moral framework you operate by where "Collect a memory" is evil
you're probably right that dreamnailing doesn't "kill them"
it's not moral framework I operate by
it's moral framework that Revek operates by
honestly I personally have also dream nailed some ghosts before
Id assume his moral framework is more something about duty and oath and protection or a lack of knowledge on what the dream nail does
that's possible
lol
it's also possible that there is some pain that ghosts have to experience, we can't say either way without assuming
he’s doing his job
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Furry,grubsong,and thorns aka oh shit im about to get my ass handed to.me
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I have exactly one spell am I at broken vessle too early
Broken vessel seems hard until you fight him for the first time
I am on attempt 5
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That gear is fine
It took me 3 tries with worse gear but I used keyboard and mouse
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Im just trash got it
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Why is the meme channel filled with canoes
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Everytime I die to the radiance I take a giant sip of oj
How much oj have you consumed?
Most of the bottle this week
I haven't even attempted radiance yet, I'm trying to get 112% first playthrough and I'm at 111%
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