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God Soul?
any 
Any Radiance
ow
nono like any attuned or accsened anything
if it is not on God Soul it seems pretty doable 
then do it 
Would have to do with Debug mod to multiply the boss
Go crazy on the radiances
kay later gonna try so.......maybe five if i count with lifeblood
FIGHTER JETS RAHHHH
more absrads = more soul = more ddark = easier
do not question my logic
I will not anwser any questions
are they all grouped together or do they separate?

More radiances more impossible patterns....no heal
Gonna have to speed kill 
seperate
just ddark smh 
so you can only nail hit one at a time that sucks
God soul nerfed it X_X
me neither cause i ragequit at ancestral mound
one ddark all your soul away....and the iframes seem nerfed as well
does it cost 99 soul or just 33 and take all soul after?
normal but you lose all your soul afterwards
no matter how much you have
soul eater
bad charm for God Soul.....i mean four notches is too much for something you have to be quick
idk man am just throwing random shit and not gonna test if it works
it not works that is the idea already played a lot anyway gonna record the five Radiances just like pal said up there
do it radiant
do bosses health still scale when you upgrade your nail in godsoul?
oh, i got the impression that it was all bosses
Pretty sure it's just dream warriors and watchers
and watchers the scaling is extremely insignificant
not upgrading your nail makes those bosses so god damn easy though
nail 4 makes watchers have 40 extra hp
i guess i gotta start upgrading my nail now in my 100% speedrun cause i already beat all those bosses
which is still faster even if you just spam spells
100% speedrun was pretty easy
the achievment I mean
but I think you mean that too
I did the achievment at the same time as 100% steel soul achievment with 10 hours to spare
yeah im doing the achievement
did you do the steel soul one yet?
a 4 achievement in one run actually
no im working on that too
I just completed everything on my first run then steel soul run. Was only missing the 5 hour speedrun achievment
Panth5?
P5 on my first save file after all the other achievments
White defender is getting quite irritating. Does this boss just not have any staggers? It feels like I'm doing nothing. I attack a bunch and nothing changes.
Yeah he never staggers but is quite an easy boss. Every time he throws 3 dung balls in a row he will jump into a ball and you can juggle him in the air until he dies (if he goes slowly enough which is most of the time)
also make sure you dash away after he ends each attack and if he dashes away from you then wait before dashing towards him because he might do the quick attack with the walls
i'm pretty sure you can just react to the attack itself
It's near instant though isn't it?
Also wow the dream bosses have a difficulty curve of a wall compared to the other bosses (at least it feels that way)
Howdy
yeah they're pretty tough
i think it's tight but i feel like i didn't really have any issues
I know :(
make sure you use hall of gods to practice bosses so you don't rage on pantheons too much
most of them aren't that bad, it's just p5
Pantheon 5 seems horrendous
you'll probably get p1 pretty quickly and maybe first try p2
it's just absrad and markoth i guess
the last bosses are pretty tough. Also Zote makes P3 hard and P4 has most of the hard bosses
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meh
i only died to him because i forgot how to fight him
if nkg was actually a problem i would have also said gpz
Yeah still a choke point. With double damage and fast attacks you can die very quickly if you lose the rhythm
Zote for me wasn't too bad in P5 just because I practiced him way too much for P3
Imma grind for unbreakable strength cause it would be nifty
No
Most servers have a no spam rule which I don't want to violate
(including this one)
Charms don't break in godhome
@ mods 
Just don't die fr
Yeah and even if, the repair is super cheap
Compared to the 15k you have to give to that god awful bug
Done boss
In one groupchat
(:
I liked these games plus celeste and hyper light drifter, what should I get?
favorite are celeste and hyper light drifter and hollow knight

what does that mean?
nothing
oh
same, all 3 are incredible games
any recommendations?
are there any other ways aside from dream bosses to obtain essence?
actually about those: does the game remove the pin when you complete a tree?
not sure
because all of my actually completed roots aren't marked (running the game on switch if that means anything)
then the pins get removed
yeah at this point I just need like 400 more essence to get awoken dream nail
dream bosses are the best ways to get essence
I want him to be the final boss of P6
I've already beaten lost kin. both white defender and failed champion (especially FC) are proving quite difficult.
have you found ||soul tyrant||
haven't tried him yet
If your asking for games to buy maybe you would like Hades
Whispering roots, random drops from enemies, and the warrior graves
Although dream bosses are the easiest way to gain essence
the only warrior I haven't gotten yet is markoth
i wonder how much that gives
uh only 250
Dream bosses are the best because if you kill them all you can basically get everything

hmm. 1468 essence currently. one whispering root I haven't gotten yet in greenpath.
Try soul tyrant if you can beat the master he should be simple
And fc/lk can be cheesed with pet builds
Yo
Probably radiant gorb
Or troupe master grimm
I accidentally added grey prince zone to p3 before I beat it
Now I have to beat him in p3
Yeah just need practice
Quick slash, stead bod, grubsong, fragile heart and fragile strength
wow ST is actually not that hard
yo where did leg eater go
i banished the grimm troupe and didnt talk to him with any unbreakable charms equipped
Sharp shadow to be is a hinderence ngl
i didnt have any unbreakable charms equipped when i talked to him
I forgot to get unbreakables before banishing the troupe
I die on God tamer just because I hate it and forget the patern
sharp shadow is the way I deal damage when I can't get nail hits in. dodging through the boss when possible can get damage in when normally I can't
nowhere
I always hit the boss with qslash
damn
rip
And I still need to beat radiance, I got to the final part 2 time top next to her, and died both times
@slate sun yo smite
you're the one from clamworks, right
Hii
oh they're offline rn
but yeah i share another server with them
Yeah that build for me is weird. I use qslash, steady, grubsong, shaman stone and soul twister, spam abyss shreik
i was gonna say "can radiance take on the unmatched power of the sun"
but then i remembered that before you challenge her she literally is the fucking sun
Nope I can hitless grimm and just use stronk build
Anyone can tell me?
The sun can't stop my endless screams of pain
I haven't tried the nightmare king in God home, I still need to actually murder the sun
Any tips
for nightmare king?
Ah, always use monarch wings to dodge the orbs and prioritize dodging before hitting you can use shade soul while dodging if she's too far away but you should usually wait for her to come to you
I mean the climb
Ah
Aight,
so I'd recommend you to be rlly careful and watch out for the sunrays, if one of them spawns on you do could use shade shade dash since you're not gonna have enough time to react, also, if one of them it's blocking your path you can either shade dash through them or just wait for the sunray to spawn in another spot and quickly get to the other stair
yea, shade dash and patience your best friend in that climb
also don't be scared of the void, not worth hurrying to the point of panic
Good to know thankyou I will try again
do not try and heal since it's hella risky and yea, patience is key take your time mastering it
chat it's time
or just
shreik
constantly
I BEAT SOUL TYRANT
Nice dude
immediately after this i was like: mommy? Sorry, mommy? I mean... Sorry, mommy???? Sorry
I LITERALLY SPENT 2 DAYS TRYING TO KILL THIS GUY ππππππ
lol
traitor lord is all bark, no bite
let's go
OH......
the dream nail has been awoken
steady body is a good charm tho
what
wdym what
u got this trust
@elder nimbus @granite surge u man down to vc in a bit?
nahh i was testing out fury of the fallen with a skin so i went and tried it out but died to a vengefly bc i missed the pogo π
JusT HoLd ForwArd
this is coming from someone who has gotten 112%, all achievements, and is almost done with radiant bosses
i just suck π
I have entered the palace
I hate kingsmoulds
oh my god the royal retainers bow to you
its good for some bosses to avoid getting knocked back into an attack
also ur about me do u change it everyday or na
Bro radiance is literally refered as a male in spanish
dw it happens to the best of us π
dude the white palace is actually pretty as hell though
I havent looked on his entrance on the hunter's diary, but
In the hall of gods, her description is "Dios olvidado de la luz"
yeah its a very lovely place
what does dios mean
God
oh no sawblades
But still, in spanish the word "Diosa" exist to reffer as female gods, so basically, radiance is different gender on spanish
so uh. does dying in WP work like normal dream deaths or...?
Let me check something
might have to go beat up hive knight rq
Yeah, radiance is male on spanish LMAOOO
There is nothing that says she is female on any place, not in hall of gods or in the diary
but in hall of gods dont they even say dios for hornet
no you go back to the beches that are there
or the save points
Hornet isnt a god iirc
i forgor
in godhome i mean
Oh yeah, my bad lmao
neityher is gruzmother but here we are
@brave blaze I BEAT RADIANC ETHANK YOU FOR THE TIPS
I was on my way to fight hk and mender bug spawned
First time i've ever saw him lol
NICE! i havent beat her myself tbh
im not that good, barely made it that far tho the hk is pretty ez
couldnt make it past the seocnd stage
I feel very bad rn
It saved It thank god
I got an new phone and it goes up to 80fps in hollow knight
So it leaves a shade and everything?
And my pc barely can reach 40fps
no shade
Ah
u just die
Yeah, i have hk on android so i can play in every place i go
How
theres hk on anddroid!?
Ah yeah that makes sense
Now to p3
Istg that if there was an official port for android i would buy it
can we not talk about piracy here please
Ok
thanks
and yeah, i know you aren't sharing it but it's still not a good idea to talk about it in servers
Talking about something always brings a level of attention which isnt something good when the thing youre talking about is agaisnt tos and illegal
I didnt know that, thank you
Its also just never a good idea to enforce it specially in the official server
almost done
Ok then, my bad, still thank you, i didnt knew it was something on the Tos
its alright, thanks for understanding!
bro has friendly fire enabled
only thing left I have to do is all pantheon bindings
Eternal ordeal?
Dark prince zote?
Yes
Well done.
If you are on pc you can try modded bosses.
yeah I might but idk what to try really
Hereβs some to try
Corrupted kin. Pale court (basically a content mod the size of maybe uhhh Grimm? Perhaps a bit more) inferno king, nightmare god (you can combine inferno king and nightmare god and also set both to hardmode to make the finite absolute inferno god grimms fight)
(GRIMMS)
I KILLED RADIANCE
whats a good first modded boss
YIPEEE
gg!
Corrupted kin. Itβs not super over the top but itβs a bit harder and cool.
Ty
Oh wow
Btw the mod installer corrupted suggests has been replaced by scarab which changed to scarab+ which changed to lumafly if I recall now.
Official website of Lumafly, the mod installer and manager for Hollow Knight. Hosts important links and shareable Lumafly command links.
@wicked marsh try this mod at some point btw. Its VERY well done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jtHOcQMmeE
https://themulhima.github.io/Lumafly/commands/download/?mods=Pale+Court
The unofficial fanmade expansion, Pale Court, is now publicly available.
To download the mod:
- Open mod installer (Scarab or HKMM)
- Install the modding api (done automatically)
- Search "Pale Court"
- Click the install button
you can also use this direct download: https://themulhima.github.io/Scarab/commands/download/?mods=Pale Court (...
Command to download mods using Lumafly
This mod combo is for making nightmare grimm fight... something. Its stupidly hard. Basically 2 hardmode grimm fight mods that combine to give grimm more phases BOTH set to hardmode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJwH3vu7LH8
Defeating Absolute Inferno God Grimm, a modded version of Absolute Inferno King Grimm by Nickc01 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhKrdlC6nNk) that combines Katie's Nightmare God Grimm to make the fight slightly more challenging by modifying Grimm's attacks to have constant spikes along with double AIKGs in phase two.
The lower HP does make thi...
Image for people with slow wifi/data.

what is satchel in lumafly?
Btw there IS a semi-offical modding discord.
https://discord.gg/hkmodding
Ooooh
tysm
megaphone voice Sir, you are going the wrong way.
Lost kin changes nothing from the broken vessel right?
Besides being faster, having i think 1 new attack, maybe 2
besides that, not that I know of
Ghosts respawn faster in the lost kin fight versus the normal one.
And instead of being a flat respawn rate respawn faster the lower hp.
But itβs a VERY small amount faster.
yoooo wsg
nothing much my clam
good to know follow clamma
(Though thatβs why some of the people that have loadouts specifically against lost kin fight use the defenders crest since all damage kills the ghosts mushroom puff + crest basically gives a temporary aoe shield against ghosts every heal.
clammer hard r
I am going to get the absolute radiance murder ending with godseeker and only then kill dreamers to unlock everything in the save file. I can techaniclly murder all rn but that's boring. Might as well let them live a BIT longer.
OMG I GOT SOUL EATER AT 0 NOTCHS IN RANDO 4
wait until you find out that people have done it on radiant
@brave blaze why is radiant ngg harder than radiant aigg again
the remove backround blur mod is so cool
hey guys! Ive been having some trouble launching mods using scarab. If anyone knows how to solve this issue please tell me. Thanks!
also the headbang attack is removed i think
did you do path of pain?
@tulip vine hello . ... i am so sorry for the ping but i kinda wanna join more rain world servers and youre like the first person i can think of thats in some
/nf
Oh i like pings when people ask for help
Or wanna talk because i feel wanted 
So what's the difference between this channel and #hk-discussion
does anyone have the original sprites for eventual changes?
cause i want to make skins but dont have the original sprites
ohh tysm, i found it

What does everyone think of Hollow Knight flavored Ice Cream?
mango flavor?
nuh uh. it'd probably taste like gravel and weird infected orange juice
For each character
oh
ohh
pv ice cream would probably taste like a slowly rotting vanilla plant or wherever vanilla extract comes from
Yep
hornet ice cream would taste like strawberries and spider webs :3
What about a Hollow Knight film adaptation?
Correct
Bug flavor
Ngl
That first person in dirtmouth

Would definitely be vanilla they prefer more simple things

L-derbug probably hates ice cream and steals it from people just to throw it on the ground
but 

mine is 
Maybe white king was on a2 and black rook moved from b3 to deliver check?
Whrte is moch! 

Or sleeping, but who knows π€·ββοΈ
Ima go to sleep now since its almost 1 am

Goodnight everyone
(I would if my girlfriend would let me sleep)

wake up
Who's smurfcat?
good question
it's this meme thing a lot of ppl r spamming me w
Oh I see
If silk song isnt the best game ever made im going to act up
I just realized
HK is made on unity
Therefore Silksong is being made on unity as well
And after recent events I doubt anyone would work on unity
Mfw silksong got pushed a couple of years
Nah the ceo will just get a fat paycheck and kill the company
Mango sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeping 
Gonna hop on Pomi 3 
yeaaaaaaa
O.O
my goodness.....last phase is being the problem? 
you have to practice well because when you reach that phase you have to certify you will win 
specially after such a hard climb
Congrats you are real close 
sure
π₯Calamity ostπ₯
It doese suck that DM dokuro had to stoped doing the ost for calamity
Dudeee the OSTs for Calamity that DM dokuro composed slap so hard, it truly does suck
Is it well said if i say: "when is your birthday?"
Shouldn't be an issue 
Skill issue
oh you sent the link lol.....i had to search
if you see my first clear you would see how close you are.....i was not even half of that skill
you sure have
the shriek techs are fantastic.....never pulled it off consistently 
Ddark timing is neat and climb.....how?! i need to learn fast climb 
Rip is equip Baldur shell and not use itX_X
gosh this pic is awesome
dunno if i have a clip of last phase
No Skill?! that is Mango last month skill...embaressing :3
R5
umm this was last month
Mango improve real quick lol
yea am trying 2.0 now
not that nice
the dodges we have to pull off is incredible
much more will come for sure....had the same thought in the past
And i'm getting destroyed by atomic radiance
I can't get past frist phase
Max is the point where all floor get's spiky
Point of my death
Not really
Maybe
Thx
What exactly you mean by face dancing?
Like that insanity they do at 2.0?
Maybe i can do that
I'll surely try.
I've been learning that, it definitely helps
Especially with bosses like galien and markoth
True but you can use the same technique without getting in their face
It's harder but worth the risk
this shit looks like magic to me
i havent even touched like
mantis lords yet
i literally just got my first nail upgrade
speaking of
Got five at once...it was fun 
for some reason the clones disappear after floor phase if you kill all of them
Roma?! 
5 Radiances cool patterns 
@brave blaze is that an improvement? :0
No way Mango
I was struglling so much with two,i left trying to do it
And you did five
π€―
train for 2.0 :3
you doin GodSoul?
Mango crazy
I was trying Double radiance mod
Have you done Godsoul too?
on black egg temple the creator put the name of the people who beated the challenge
Zuggo said about the mod......for me 
Still ngl W
You'll be there soon Mango
you doin what beside double rad Roma? 
more light than Radiance? that is wild
yea it is
So birthplace is drak,change of colors
my character would turn on something odd no? O.O
I honestly don't know 
white mask and blue cloth....yea pretty cursed
the saw blades would be odd too lol

You can try anyways
good morning hollow knight offtopic
Good morning to you too
goodmorning
Do people acctuly sleep?

I do not speak emoji
sure you does not speak emoji :P
I had a stroke reading that
Dude I feel sorry for the hollow knight I keep beating this dude up everytime I fail radiance π
Mango

π₯ βοΈ
HE FUCKING ATE MY DECENDING DARK NEVERMIND
What would void taste like?
ATTACK THIEF
I think it would tastle like licorice
Probably nothing
I BEAT RADIANCE
Good morning
Nice
Dude this game is amazing π
Now try to beat any radiance/j
Literally one of the best games I've ever played hands down no contest.
I would but I only own the game on switch currently :<
It's my favorite game ever
But not for so long
Silksong looks amazing
I think HK actually beats TOTK on my favorite games list
Gotta love how the attempt where I didn't even take it seriously was when I beat it


Any rad is easy
Anika is doin progress.....who will be the next next 
I would like you all to know I cant even beat abs rad
sad.....am quite experienced 
but i know to get where i am i had many fails....
you have to keep going 
I CAN, just not consistently
Bro it was literally the exact same thing for me
Yeah any markoth is way harder
Now to go for 112%
I did 112%
Any marakoth?
I was joking but let's all agree it would be way harder than any rad
Idk any rad was meant to be impossible

If i had a PC i would try to create any markoth
Would you not aslo need to know how to code?
Doesn't look that hard (i think)
I wish codeing was easy
The first one was
Then they made it harder
Then they had to make it even harder
How the fuck can you beat an harder version of an impossible boss
I can't even beat marmu on radiance dw
I FUCKING HARE RAD MARAMU
It's the hollow knight community
Everything is possible
Worst rad boss
I love marmu but fuck the radiant version
Except Silksong
π
it's not impossible if people beat it
Some mfr made silksong
Silksong was a dream created by the radiance to infect us
And it worked
This community is nuts
At this point a fanmade hornet dlc seems likely
no
there's only been 1 fanmade dlc
r/silksong only has fake memes and spoilers and it's so fucking funny
if there was one in progress you'd know about it
gwnj 
cookie 
(extra
)

Just my opinion please don't kill me if you disagree
Currently stabbing you
Damn sorry guess I have to kill you uh
Winged nosk is way way lower for me
What is this even based on
Preference? Difficulty?
Either way Zote should be a tier higher
Preference
As boss fights or as characters
Both
Fair
Let me redo some things wait a minute
Like I don't agree when going specific but I only have the strength to go broad and yeah it seems fair
why is traitor lord above sisters of battle π
Next to?
Because he is absolutely based
Traitor lord is built diffrent
Literally
Slice from White Defender to Soul Master/Tyrant and put them at the top it'd be the best improvement
:0
You weren't dw
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tier lists usually rank from left to right as well, left being better and right being worse, meaning they were giving traitor lord a higher ranking than sisters of battle
Ah I see. Well but he technically is above still. Or before them at least. He still is considered better or at least equal.
Ah ok. Sorry for misunderstood
nw 
As he deserves
Traitor Lord on steroids mod when
Well aside from the steroids he literally already has
He is not necessarely above them
I just to put them next to each other because of lore wise
ah OK
Actually reminds me of a mod that made you fight SoB and TL at the same time, it even reskinned the TL
I think i'll redo it again but as an actual ranking
Still based on both character and fight or only 1?
Mossy on highest rank 
Both
And i'll base around difficulty too
Mango is here, but Anika isn't here 
spoke to her before
Ah
Wish her luckk
I haven't even beaten P3 on the file I'm currently using and haven't even watch anyrad gameplay so that sounds scary
I just got the best t-shirt ever
Show
I remade it again based on an actual lower to higher ranking this time
Z
No no, that's not the reward, that's just the trophy
The reward is a 3 second cutscene
No no
I don't get the lost kin hype
It is the feeling of accomplishment
It's just a slightly harder broken vessel
It's also based on fun I'd assume but then why. Why is gpz so high.
It's a pretty fun fight, the ost is amazing and the lore is super cool
It's one of my favorite bosses
Sisters of battle being in the same tier as traitor lord is crazy
That is overshadowed by the permanent brain damage
True Traitor Lord>>>>>
I like traitor lord
Sisters + Mantis Lords >> Traitor Lord
It's not that hard
Sisters of battle is too much bullshit sometimes
But it's still better than mantis lords
Mantis Lords is funn
We're also talking character wise, not just the fight
I spent 6 hours trying to beat that shit
Pale court
dang.a pretty ok tier list
I already beat every boss on Radiant
Traitor lord is a better character imo
Yeah exactly
Pantheon of nightmares?
Whaddat
Pure suffering
Thank you
Hollow Knight fans waiting for Silksong: We are waiting for so loong for Silksong AND NOW UNITY FEE THREATS IT INTO ITS CANCELLATION OR RESTART?!?!?!
Half Life Fans waiting for Half Life 3: Cope
Chess players waiting for chess 2
True
I doubt they're actually gonna do that
Still, Half Life fans are waiting for longer
There are a lot of chess 2s
They got Half Life Alyx at least
(Fun Fact: Unity is backing down rn and revisiting everything the changes)
Meanwhile TF2 fans:
Which one
Team Fortress 2
It got an update recently (I think)
It was just for patching the bot-allipse
Which one?
Titanfall 2
Oh
The copium currently going on in the subreddit is insane
It's probably some Apex shit and yet everyone keeps saying maybe it's TF3 maybe it's real
Titanfall 3 was planned but then cancelled in favour of Apex Legends (Which still takes place in the same universe)
I only played Titanfall 2, never played Apex
Same
Well yeah. They don't really take the other games into consideration ever except for that one character but yeah.
Tbh I prefer Fortnite, maybe due to the Story Mode (Which I thought it was good but then... I have to reconsider)
To Titanfall???
Phew
did I miss a clown emoji storm during the last direct?
Apex isn't a worthy successor tho
No Titan
I wanna be 100% honest I actually thought this direct would have had Silksong. And I never think that.
Also they left TF2 on a cliffhanger and just refused to elaborate
given team cherrys track record, we will recieve news of a delay in early 2025
TC really needs to hire a social media manager
Given Team Cherry's track record won't receive news of the delay in early 2025*
fair
ill never know what when through their head
"lets leave our adoring fans in silence for years"
Imagine if during a E3 event one of Team Cherry members arrives in front of the audience and just says "Silksong"
honestly
Idk what part of it is more impossible
I wouldnt care
The E3 part or the Silksong part
they left us in the dark for so long that every spec of hype I had for the game is dead
im more exited for Crowsworn, as they keep the community up to date with sneak peaks
I have literally 0 expectations, nothing good nothing bad
Which should be how every game is played
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Did any of you guys played the Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope Rayman/Phantom Opera DLC?
pokemon with guns
never played rayman period
Cuz I have a question abt it, is it worth it?
I saw a video on their yt page about cooking the sheep monster yesterday
I haven't even finished the base game
you can have a factory of pokemon {redacted}
Ive only played Rayman on PC back in the early '00s
we can call them "interns"
I only played Rayman 3 (Never ended cuz me dumb), Origins and Legends (Both Switch and Xbox)
I played one 3D Rayman game on wii I think? And then origins and legends
didnt raymon have a mobile game
Okay I also played Rayman and Rabbids but that doesn't count
idk who I hate more, rabbids or minions
Would you rate me Rainworkd?
Minions are worse
Minions
its harder than dark souls so be warned
As in, should you play it?
No it is definitely not
I find it infinitly harder
Minions are just pointless in being villains' helper, Rabbids are pointless cause their objective is to BE pointless (and dumb)
dark souls has patterns, rainworld is entirely random
Is it a fun game
Rabbids
I like the minions movie i admit
Rainworld is a simulator of survival in an ecosystem basically
Then they stopped trying
Yeah sounds cool
Gru was a fun movie
I heard it's pretty hard
very
Depends
I find Noita to be less random than rainworld
enemies in rainworld have AI based sprites, as apposed to Sprite based AI
What
they dont have sprites like a game like hollow knight, theyre more like a worm on a string, bending in any way needed to get YOU
I fuckin love the first Despicable Me ngl
Wow
I'm pretty sure that's because they're 3D models but actually in 2D?
tho im kinda made at rainworlds devs
You can't really AI sprites
they raised the base games price when the DLC released, which is rather scummy
Disagree
The game was like 15 dollars
Hot Take: Hollow Knight is underrated in Italy (Even if the italian translation is perfect [As an italian I can confirm it])
then add an optional music pack for the people who wanna spend more on it
hollow knight is my favorite metroidvania, but I wouldnt spend over 40$ on it
They raised the price because they believed that was fair and because otherwise they should've made the dlc like 5 bucks
a games price should never be RAISED, they should add optional support items like music packs, and DLC
And they literally warned people before they did that
Hard disagree
so you like spending more money than originally asked?
Funny coincidence, I know someone who heavily disagrees
I see no reason why they shouldn't?
I had the game before, it's not like they force you to give them 10 dollars to keep the game
then you dont get a say in the matter, you didnt have to spend the extra money
Also they gave a very huge update to the base game too
updates dont cost money.
thats horrible
Cheese whats a game you play all the time?
Mario Kart 8 DX
every time they do a bug fix you have to spend 20$ now
game price raising makes some degree of sense in early access but doing that for an already fully released game is... dubious
early access raises is fine
a released game, the price needs to be decided and then left alone
The update was not just a bugfix
No it doesn't
ok so you all enjoyed that tears of the kingdom was raised to 70$ after people already pre ordered?
The price can be raised, it's not like they're forcing all existing owners of the game to pay the new price
theyre forcing new players
So?
Except Totk has always been 70 dollars
it was 60 at the start of pre orders
To pay a reasonable price?
reasonable price is the price the game is worth at launch
that's a really weird way to define that
It was not, it was people who put a selling offer on ebay before the game's price was announced
going off this logic, since hollow knight is highly popular, the price for new players should be 60$
You can cancel pre-orders
what? who is saying that?
did you not hear the fact I pre ordered? the max ammount of money you can put into a pre order is full price. I pre ordered the max amount day 1 of pre orders, and it was 60$ and the 5$ pre order fee
nintendo then announced about 2 weeks before launch that the game was now 70$, meaning I had to go in store, and add 10$ to my pre order
Mfw a small indie studio raises the price of a very good game by 10 bucks and not even all of them are going to them (absolutely unbearable)
so silksong can be 200$?
It was definitely not 2 weeks before launch
it was under a month
can and should aren't really the same
Literally eShop preorders were 70 bucks
If thar's what they wanna sell it for, then they can. That doesn't mean I'll buy it.
well screw new players then I guess
Boohoo 10 dollar increase
buy now or pay more
you can't actually prepurchase nintendo games before like a week before release
at least not from eshop
Well yeah but they give you the price
I pre ordered the game when pre orders launched, which was about 6 months ahead of release
then you didn't actually purchase it then
eshop pre orders start later than irl pre orders
where did you pre order it from
gamestop
I preorded totk like 3/4 months before launch, the price was always 70 and I bought it at GameStop
so gamestop was wrong about the price that's not nintendo deceptively increasing it
nintendo tells gamestop what to charge.
its nintendos game
and its nintendo, deveptive fits them like a glove
Mario Wonder preorders went live at the same time
Mfw companies can commit mistakes too
totk pre orders didnt
time for me to replay hk with vocalized :D
I see no reason why games shouldn't be able to mark up their price
a company that owns the worlds richest line of branding, should not be making mistakes like that
Nintendo is like one of the least deceptive big companies tbh
whats your favorite game
Tf2
Gamestop does not own the world's richest line of branding
ok cool, the game is now 70$, and anything you had in the game is locked until you buy it
Then I wouldn't care because I already have the game 
there's a difference between being justified in being able to do that and always being justified in doing so
im talking about nintendo.
Except that is literally not how it worked for rain world
no you dont. you have the free version
That is not what we're arguing about
We're arguing about if the game's core price being raised is ok
10$ or 700$ isnt the problem, its the fact its raised at all
The error was on GameStop's part, not on Nintendo
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which is always going to be dependent on specifics
for example
None of us are arguing that a game locking previously established features behind a paywall is ok
No. The point is that if you had the game before the price was raised you keep it anyways. That is not the case in the example you made
We're arguing that raising the game's price is not an inherently bad thing
And 10 from 700 is definitely a factor
I just found this π
so first come first serve is the only people who matters to companies now?
I mean it's an inherently bad thing it's just not so extreme as to not be justifiable in some cases
It is not
so all of us who own hollow knight are fine if the price is raised to full price for anyone who wants to get into the game
I got it on sale
Full price means nothing in this context
modern day full price is 70$
increasing a price is bad for the consumer, it's just sometimes justified or necessary to offset costs or can be supported by rationale around increasing the general scale of the game
there's a difference between bad and categorically unacceptable
That is AAA price. Full price is price without sales.
Not for an indie game its not
adjusting prices for regions I can understand, raising the price just because your game is popular is scum
who did that
rainworld
It's not because the game was popular
Yes. I'm arguing that the game's price being raised is not morally reprehensible.
rw had some behind the scenes shit going on that probably incurred some additional expense
then do tell why the price was raised?
the game changed hands which is an expensive process
Because the game is actually worth the price
so your repeating what I said with different wording
the game got popular so the price was raised
Possibly due to the unity situation
no
rainworld was raised over a year ago
In what world is Tammo saying that
No. Nintendo could make Mario Odyssey 80 dollars and it'd still be popular. Doesn't mean it's a fair price.
"the games worth it" a game getting better doesnt meant the price should rise
Then I have no idea
if that were the case
rw also transitioned back into being a game that's in development so development costs start existing again
no mans sky would be around 1000$ by now
thats the devs problems not the consumers
dont let your desissions hurt the hand that feeds you
They were releasing DLC and the game was only 15 bucks
And how do video game developers make money...???
when costs of development increase sometimes the product's cost does too that's not even unique to games
Yeah lol
by gaining consumers, and not many people like when things start going up in price just because the devs need it
name another game that raises its prices after the initial release.
You don't have to like it to recognize that there is reasoning for it
reason is greed
Ads and in-game purchases
I don't have to in order to know that the cost to make something increasing dramatically is reasoning enough to raise the price.
It's not always realistic to simply "gain consumers"
There's a difference when a AAA game doubles its price to gain more money and when a small indie studio raises it by 10 dollars to stay alive
like I said, if you think your games "worth it" add optional purchases. hollow knight did that and the price hasnt budged
eh I mean that's true but a really weird way to characterise aaas since that's not a thing that happens and idk if the rw increase was necessary to stay afloat
hollow knight has 3? 4? DLC, and the price never went up
X game did this. Hence every game must do the same.
imagine if team cherry suddenly told us all we have to pay for the free DLC because they need money
Then we'd have to if we wanted to play them
it would certainly have been cooler of the rw devs to not increase the cost
It kinds was necessary. Also there was a AAA that doubled it's price but I don't remember which one.
Boohoo we have to pay for two great dlcs
it would be a scummy move and would deserve backlash.
No it wouldn't. Paid dlc is a regular in the gaming world.
are you people rich or something? why are you so ok with just throwing more money into things
Greed isn't really a reason
that's a pretty different scenario, again price increases don't retroactively remove stuff for people who don't pay more
free DLC becoming paid DLC isnt
10 dollars isn't an economic crysis
If the consumer still buys it, it's their fault, not the developers
If you don't have the money to pay for something, then that's your problem, not the developer's.
I dont care if its 2 pennies
that's a dumb argument
Also the example you made is different.
oh so you are just rich
Lmfao this argument is quite dumb
when has anybody argued in favor of that
how would you feel if this was for something other than games
all your house bills went up cuz the state is low on funds
It's a fuckin game, not something you need to survive π
Those things are not comparable in any way
There's a difference between locking X part of game behind a newly introduced paywall and raising the price of an already existing game
"If your friend told you to jump off a cliff would you do it?"
and prices of everything do increase in general, games are abnormally static
tell that to the people in silksong general during directs
bills and cliffs dont relate
If you don't want to pay for it, pirate it and risk getting a virus. It's that easy
Boo hoo
exactly, thats the way a chunk of people will see it
also your only at risk of a virus if you use untrusted sites lol
You can't trust any websites these days
kinda funny, destiny season passes went up by 10$, everyone screams
Neither do bills and games
rainworlds entire game went up by 10$ and nobody cares
fees, fees relate
WTF HAPPEE TO MYLA >:[
Bills you need, games you don't
Death
You need to pay bills to access the games
Can't play games without electricity
also Holeio I would expect you to understand, ur a fan of a dying free to play hat sales simulator
Cope
contexy
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yeah I've already brought those points up
oh so they admit they raised the price because of their own bad choices
Developer official response to price increase
Infection π±
they charged money for adding mod support while modding was already a thing HAHAHAHHAHAHA
Did you just ignore the other 3 points
What
"oh the dlc is cheaper now" thats the most blatent lie ever
What are you even talking about
Where in that entire thing does it mention bad decisions. They're simply saying that they want to increase the scale of the game and that they needed the price increase to offset the costs if various things
the steam notes not the discord post.
and its the entirety of the highlighted line 4
Did discord glitch and send a different image or something because youβre clearly not seeing the one she sent
@ashen wadi
They never said switching publisher was a bad decision
Why donβt you read it again
Oh that
Slowly
Chronobobo's just making shit up to support his argument
"the process of picking up from another publisher was an an expensive one and they still get a cut of all our sales. Bumping up the price a little helps offset that reality"
price was raised because they couldnt afford what they did
and I dont care if its an indie game
if AAA companies see them getting support with this
its not gonna end well
No
every update is gonna raise the price of games if AAA companies catch on
Because. Get this. AAA companies. Aren't. Indie. Companies.







