hk-general

[latent mulch]

then quit

[brave blaze]

yeah its not that bad

[inland fern]

shameles

[latent mulch]

You're being ironic

Right

[elder nimbus]

ohh shit is that your first time there? thought you done already before for some reason

[inland fern]

i had fun playing it

i wish they made its place more apparent

[brave blaze]

not exactly first time but i havent played in a long time

[elder nimbus]

ohhh makes sense

[brave blaze]

ignore the end but its honestly pretty easy 😭

[elder nimbus]

if you're still there, nah you dont

its just a dash and monarch wings

[latent mulch]

Wait there arent checkponts or something

[brave blaze]

so dash through and wings?

[tired current]

There are

[brave blaze]

oh cool

[elder nimbus]

the soul totems are your checkpoints

[brave blaze]

respawn points but no benches

[latent mulch]

No but if you take damage do you go back to the start

[tired current]

No

[elder nimbus]

no

[latent mulch]

ah

[elder nimbus]

you spawn back at the soul totem

the one you just got to

[latent mulch]

And are the totems far away from each other?

[tired current]

Relatively

[elder nimbus]

not toooo far

but it is some work to get there

[tired current]

There’s one for each segment

[brave blaze]

on average 1-2 rooms away from each other

[latent mulch]

Darn

[brave blaze]

its really not that bad

[tired current]

PoP is very fun

Especially in a randomizer

[elder nimbus]

yeah just not knowing whats ahead is what makes it hard

[brave blaze]

path of pain for the first time through is all about taking time and learning

[elder nimbus]

after you done it once it's lightwork

[brave blaze]

like the first drop in the first room is uh

yeah that sucks for the first time

[elder nimbus]

after you've done path of pain and want another platforming challenge, you can get the pale court mod and try this other platforming thing which i call "abyss of trauma" and its only called that because i brought long nail into a claustrophobic platforming space full of spikes :)

actually makes you use the downwards shade cloaks

[quiet kayak]

hello hk offtopic

[elder nimbus]

hello

[quiet kayak]

is that pfp perhaps an evangelical reference

[coarse plaza]

Good evening and good night buddy

[quiet kayak]

have i just been "buddy"ied

[coarse plaza]

No you got tomfooleried

[quiet kayak]

so true.,,..

@brave blaze wts agentla9616 posted like 5 videos today 🤑

[novel scarab]

time to create ANOTHER randomizer save

WHAT THE HELL

[quiet kayak]

so true

[novel scarab]

WHERE AM I

[dull oracle]

Wake up time to fight mawlek

I dont nees it

[latent mulch]

IS that a room randomizer

[novel scarab]

yes

[dull oracle]

Im not playing

[latent mulch]

Oh god thats not what i thought they ment

I thought it ment the doors were randomised not the layout of the room

[novel scarab]

but this is a room in hollow knight

[elder nimbus]

yeah thats what they mean

every transition between areas are completely randomized LOL

[novel scarab]

yes

wooo vessel thingy 🔥

ill go to false knight

[brave blaze]

It is indeed!

[novel scarab]

how the hell-

[quiet kayak]

[novel scarab]

YESSIR

[inland fern]

why does it look like that

[novel scarab]

[hushed trail]

Definitely

[inland fern]

why are you playing in french

[brave blaze]

Maybe they're french

[coarse plaza]

He's Portuguese

[brave blaze]

Ok thats weird then

[novel scarab]

..

[inland fern]

diario de voyageur

[scenic frost]

Maybe he's french

[novel scarab]

VIAJANTE

[coarse plaza]

How?

[novel scarab]

[inland fern]

how do you say diary in french

[scenic frost]

If he was playing french hollow knight while being portugese

[hushed trail]

Yeah that’s Portuguese not French

[brave blaze]

Uh because people from Portugal typically speak Portuguese?

[scenic frost]

Is it french or portugese dammit

[novel scarab]

hallownest

[novel scarab]

its portuguese man 😭

[coarse plaza]

I don't understand?

[scenic frost]

Ok

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-26279280

[novel scarab]

we need dash..

[coarse plaza]

Sounds like a new player again XD

[novel scarab]

why

[coarse plaza]

It's just my perspective dw

[inland fern]

im lagging so hard

[scenic frost]

Guys should I start steel soul

[novel scarab]

what happens if i left sly here

jk im saving him

[glad folio]

he stays there

[scenic frost]

No more sly in dirtmouth

No lumafly lantern

[novel scarab]

its randomizer.

[scenic frost]

Ohh

Save him

[coarse plaza]

It's pretty easy. I did it in 1st run

[inland fern]

i fought that guy

[coarse plaza]

Without cheating

[scenic frost]

Regular ending?

Or dream no more

[inland fern]

cheesing is not cheating 😭

[novel scarab]

i fought alot of times

[coarse plaza]

Ye, but i might do radiance when im bored enough since i have almost everything before fighting the last boss

[scenic frost]

Good luck on radiance then in steel soul.

It would be a shame for you to DIE

[coarse plaza]

Sheesh radiance is such a pushover, i beat her with my pet build 1st try

[novel scarab]

bad charm + 3 notches

[coarse plaza]

It's not bad, it's just nerfed

[scenic frost]

Dude my boss skill is messed up. I can beat nkg and pv on radiant no sweat but I can barely beat markoth or obobobbles on ascended.

I can barely beat obobbles normally

On attuned

[novel scarab]

and i forgor where is false knight-

[cold valley]

Oblobbles is the hardest boss in the game so I don't blame you

[scenic frost]

Damn right

Rng is too powerful

[novel scarab]

uhh cool

[scenic frost]

Oh nice

I should play item randomizer some time

I haven't attempted absrad once since I encountered her in p5 yesterday but she don't look TOO bad

She just looks like a harder radiance

[ancient oracle]

@ancient oracle

[novel scarab]

found it

NAH HE DROPPED 15 GEO MF

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

mann 😡

what the

[scenic frost]

Wtf is this

[novel scarab]

colesseum of fools

YOO OFC

[scenic frost]

No but how are you there that early

[novel scarab]

KING'S S PASS

[novel scarab]

its randomizer, even the rooms are random

[scenic frost]

Oh

[quiet kayak]

there are more videos

iirc

[novel scarab]

NO FUCKING WAY

[rose yacht]

When no lantern

[terse slate]

shaw

[hybrid roost]

alright guys hollow knight movie cast lets get it

whos playing hornet

actual actors pls

[rose yacht]

Rude

[hybrid roost]

how

[plucky eagle]

i still have absolutely no idea where this is but i brightened the picture

[rose yacht]

You assume that cha0s isn't an actual actor smh

I'm sure they can act

[hybrid roost]

you're litterally the physical imbodiement of twitter

[quiet kayak]

[hybrid roost]

he's not a registered actor i've never seen him ever in my life

[rose yacht]

And you're taking stuff too literally

Not impressed whatsoever

[hybrid roost]

bro

[plucky eagle]

?

[proper forge]

hello guys 😄

[plucky eagle]

hello !

[novel scarab]

lol

[plucky eagle]

where is it??

[novel scarab]

deepnest

and i cant leave king's pass sooooooo ANOTHER SAVE

[tired current]

Are you not using benchwarp

[novel scarab]

oh wait-

💀

[ashen wadi]

The randomizers should alwys be doable afaik

[tired current]

Please do not do a randomizer without benchwarp

[novel scarab]

fungal wastes yeee

[tired current]

Not always

[novel scarab]

💀

[ashen wadi]

it's called an investment

[novel scarab]

fr

[burnt heath]

At this point with rando its always with a 0.5%

[novel scarab]

OMG OMG OMG OMG

YESSS

IM SO LUCKY

[umbral vessel]

EYY

[novel scarab]

mantis claw is my favorite

yessir

[charred wagon]

oh nicee!! on my rando im 6 hours in and only have left&downslash, no movement abilities or spells

[novel scarab]

wth how

only left and down??

i start with all

[tired current]

It’s an option

[charred wagon]

yeah i decided i wanted to make my life miserable

i may restart with randomized lore tablets so i have more options to yoink items from

oh yeah and heal was randomized too so its been living hell for me

[broken sorrel]

I just want a friend to talk to

[elder nimbus]

what's good brother

[broken sorrel]

Hey

[elder nimbus]

you alright?

[broken sorrel]

I just want someone to talk to while playing

[elder nimbus]

what you doing on there currently?

where you at in the game

[broken sorrel]

Coliseum of fools

And I have every charm

[elder nimbus]

first time doing it or you just practicing/farming geo?

[broken sorrel]

First time and I’m doing the trial of the fool

[elder nimbus]

ohhh shit okay

good luck with that!

[broken sorrel]

Yeah

[elder nimbus]

we can jump into a vc if you want

[broken sorrel]

That would be cool

[elder nimbus]

come les go

[slate spire]

Howdy

[ashen wadi]

colo 3 is fun but it's not something I would do again

[charred wagon]

Me with godhome

[narrow finch]

bruh i keep seeing hk as hong kong 🤣

[charred wagon]

i have the opposite problem, anytime i see the abbreviation HK i read it as hollow knight lmfao

i will never read honest kids juiceboxes the same again

[brave blaze]

I KILLED FRICKIN SLAY IN PANT OF THE SAEG

[scenic frost]

Nice job

Now to beat pv 😄

[brave blaze]

oh s

[warm aurora]

The beast has captured the Knight

[scenic frost]

Hehe money

[scenic frost]

I wan one

[ashen wadi]

colo 2 is more efficient

and in general you don't need to grind money much in hk

[scenic frost]

Unbreakable charms

[ashen wadi]

only one is worth getting and you don't really need them for anything

[scenic frost]

Heart and strength are both good

[ashen wadi]

heart is mediocre, strength is good but fragile is more than enough

[scenic frost]

For future playthroughs tho I'd just not upgrade them because I'd only be using them during godhome

I never used them for normal gameplay

[brave blaze]

da p4 is so herd

hard*

[signal blaze]

bruh that sounds terrible just restart

[scenic frost]

Hey guys should I combo jonis blessing, lifeblood heart, and unbreakable heart to become tank build

[signal blaze]

no?

that's just charmless but worse

[shy ingot]

who's good at math

[brave blaze]

i combo unbreakabel strength long nail quick slash and mark of pride

[grand oyster]

sounds amazing

[signal blaze]

put shaman stone in there

[scenic frost]

Hehe tank loadout

[brave blaze]

no i love my nail

[signal blaze]

is there an actual reason you aren't using spells

[scenic frost]

Fun

[brave blaze]

im using spells

im using ddark

[scenic frost]

Ddark gives i frames so reasonable

My current loadout for travelling hallownest is compass, geo collection (i forgot what it was called), shaman stone, soul eater, and sprintmaster

[signal blaze]

soul eater is really bad if you aren't overcharming

[scenic frost]

Why

[signal blaze]

it's 4 notches lol

[ashen wadi]

absurd cost

[scenic frost]

So

[brave blaze]

im using hiveblood and deep focus in parkours

[scenic frost]

Would I be better off using soul catcher

[signal blaze]

maybe not really bad but i wouldn't really advise using it

[scenic frost]

Only 2 notches! :0

[signal blaze]

i would just say use spell twister

[ashen wadi]

I mean if there's nothing else you want then sure use soul eater it's whatever

[signal blaze]

yeah it's fine it just costs a lot

[ashen wadi]

soul eater isn't an active detriment other than its cost and it provides a consistent and meaningful benefit which makes it better than plenty of other charms

[slate spire]

Grimm

[rigid olive]

If they had voices/personalities, which one would more likely say “that’s what she said”
Ghost or THK

[slate spire]

why grimm has so much memes

[rigid olive]

For research reasons

[brave blaze]

gim is ez

[ashen wadi]

popular character

[rigid olive]

Nala

[scenic frost]

My current loadout for bosses/colosseum is unbreakable strength, shaman stone, and soul eater

If on radiant I'll throw quickslash in there too

[slate spire]

Nola?

[signal blaze]

neither of them have a personality so how is anyone supposed to answer that

[rigid olive]

Ahem.

if

[slate spire]

Ghost

[signal blaze]

ok, and? there's literally nothing to go off of

[slate spire]

Little ghos

[rigid olive]

I’ve already gotten my answer

Also I’m using beeg ghost for the simple fact of “I can’t draw the baby”

[slate spire]

ghos wor wit everythin

[scenic frost]

Ghost

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-26279280

[slate spire]

why the last characters arr missing?

[timber nova]

damn they got that thang in em

some call it soul, real ones call it rhythm

wait that's probably not how that's written

[tacit cipher]

It's been bugging out since I killed it and is spawning infection particles every once in a while

[amber hound]

GUYS I JUST PASSED NKG IN PAN 5 AND IM ON PURE VESSEL

whats after pure vessel?

absrad?

[crude galleon]

Yes

[amber hound]

I BEAT PURE VESSEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[crude galleon]

I see nothing wrong on the picture?

Huh?

[crude galleon]

Fighting the sun gl

[amber hound]

absolute mommy is here

[crude galleon]

No she doesn't

[long pumice]

does anyone have a spotify playlist for grinding absrad I'm suffering

[amber hound]

died in 10 fucking seconds baby

[long pumice]

You'll get it eventually, it's okay

[crude galleon]

How long have you been going at absrad?

[amber hound]

im going to practice her in hall of gods now

[crude galleon]

Sounds about right

[long pumice]

ehh like 3h in the last 2 days, barely anything still can't quite get her in attuned....

[crude galleon]

Radiant?

Oh

[amber hound]

i died fast and all that but i dont think her attacks was that hard

oops

[long pumice]

I'll get there eventually

[toxic nova]

don't

[normal phoenix]

so it takes the same time as pv

?

[crude galleon]

I mean absrad theme is quite good, Idk what you would listen to instead though

[crude galleon]

Huh?

For me Absrad took 8 times longer than PV..

[normal phoenix]

pv took me around 3 days

somethign more

[amber hound]

im fighting her in the skies now

[crude galleon]

PV took me 1 hour, absrad took 8 hours

[gaunt geyser]

radabsrad took me 60h yippeee

[normal phoenix]

what

monster

[crude galleon]

I did speedrunning before radhog..

[gaunt geyser]

Ekko kinda cracked😎

[crude galleon]

Well be trying radiant charmless absrad soon tm

[normal phoenix]

ye

[normal phoenix]

yeah ok im done after 112% im not doing p5 charmless

time to farm p4

god markoth

[crude galleon]

I did that today lol, was kinda easy..

[gaunt geyser]

112% ≠ p5

[amber hound]

I DONT SEE HER FUCKING ATTACKS BEC OF HOW HIGH MY BRIGHTNESS IS BRO

[normal phoenix]

ik but i have to

[normal phoenix]

lol f

[gaunt geyser]

p5 is the worst thing in Hk, and i dont mean that subjectively

[normal phoenix]

i kow

[crude galleon]

I did a speedrun today that gets pure nail 15 minnutes in

[normal phoenix]

exept for zote

[near sphinx]

🗿 i did a speedrun where i have to die on steel soul

[gaunt geyser]

Can relate for absrad, pv, grimm, lost kin, …

[normal phoenix]

[gaunt geyser]

Category

[crude galleon]

Happy couple AG

[normal phoenix]

what does ag mean

[crude galleon]

I got the wr btw

All glitches..

A bunch of mms stuff

Some float

A load warp

[amber hound]

RADIANCE IS LITERALLY THE GOD OF LIGHT

i dont see shit

[crude galleon]

Sunlight..

[normal phoenix]

oh

wow

[normal phoenix]

what am i going to fight, the sun? yes

[crude galleon]

I only saved 1 hour over secound place lol

[normal phoenix]

insert radiance sun meem

[amber hound]

im the god of war

[normal phoenix]

wait what

[crude galleon]

There are 2 runs total for the category...

Including mine

[normal phoenix]

isn't ag all glith

oooh happy couple

[crude galleon]

Also their run was on 1578 and mine is on 1028

[normal phoenix]

my 2 neurons got togetehr

[crude galleon]

Yey

[signal blaze]

[normal phoenix]

u too in idiot central aka windette server

[signal blaze]

so true zmate

[amber hound]

i hope i stop dying in the first 10 seconds against absrad

[crude galleon]

I assume that includes P5ab..

[signal blaze]

p5ab is fine lol

if it's too hard or you don't want to do it just... don't?

[crude galleon]

Why is p5 not then?

[normal phoenix]

i died at p4 when pv was at 20% hp coz i was stressed aaaaaaaaaa

[signal blaze]

i didn't say p5 was bad

[midnight oasis]

p5 is bad

[crude galleon]

Well I kinda decided it was to easy so I took away the lifeblood..

[signal blaze]

unfortunately that helps a lot in p5ab

[normal phoenix]

you are not a fool you are the entire colosseum

[signal blaze]

so true

[toxic nova]

iirc it's the best thing ever

[crude galleon]

But I wannt to keep it this way

[long pumice]

Yeah, i also took my time with pv, but at last i did him in radiant so i actually have hopes with absrad

[midnight oasis]

It's indeed subjective

[normal phoenix]

absrad doesnt heal you befeor the fight like normal rad?

[toxic nova]

like lore

[brave blaze]

help me in help

[long pumice]

I don't think so

[elder nimbus]

nah it does

[normal phoenix]

i just tought

immagine the bench being actual checkpoints

life vould be easy

[crude galleon]

That's not good for me because PV and Absrad are the hardest bosses in the game imo And I have to do them both on 4 hp

[normal phoenix]

you wanna do all bindings?

[crude galleon]

Oh it does good

[signal blaze]

pv?????

[crude galleon]

I plan to do lifeblood less p5ab yes

[normal phoenix]

flying traitor lord

[crude galleon]

Pure vessel

[signal blaze]

ok yeah he's only hard in p5ab because of the double damage

[normal phoenix]

ima grind now

[signal blaze]

i know...

[crude galleon]

Kinda true

But I am also just bad at pv..

[hybrid roost]

I beat hollow knight!!! 👏

[signal blaze]

it might just be me but i think it would be a good idea to get good at the second to last boss in a boss rush that takes over an hour

[hybrid roost]

yay I’m so happy

I didn’t even get pure nail

and I beat thk first try

why chat go quiet

[grim quarry]

Good job! Now time to grind 112% completion

[brave blaze]

haha

l for markoth

[hybrid roost]

on it

[brave blaze]

bro wait what the hell

[hybrid roost]

im going back to deepnest

[brave blaze]

nooooo

[grim quarry]

Let's goo

[brave blaze]

i dont want fight him

[hybrid roost]

I didn’t even get pure nail

[brave blaze]

HELL NAH

rip for me

[slate spire]

good luck

[brave blaze]

im ded

[normal phoenix]

practice him in hog

for like a few days

3 should do

[brave blaze]

[rough wolf]

i hope my pc wont explode

[normal phoenix]

whats that

[rough wolf]

rainbow six seige

[normal phoenix]

also no eyes most boring boss

[midnight oasis]

Kid named Elder Hu:

[normal phoenix]

knight be like: mom told me that it's my turn to use the xbox

[rough wolf]

"im dying"
kid named my pc:

[normal phoenix]

LOL

[scenic frost]

I love no eyes just because it acts as a healing break during p4

Just grab some soul, heal, grab some more soul

[normal phoenix]

just put a bench

also after the next|| boss traitor lord ||wich is ex there is a bench

[scenic frost]

No I mean because its after lost kin

[normal phoenix]

ok???

tags btw me too

[scenic frost]

I guess now that I think about it its kinda a waste of time

[ashen wadi]

elder hu is more engaging than no eyes at elast

[scenic frost]

Welcome to the best boss in the game

[normal phoenix]

yep

[burnt heath]

Is it tho tammo, is it

[midnight oasis]

Ehhhhhh

[ashen wadi]

at least elder hu does shit

[normal phoenix]

||sisters of battle|| be like

[long pumice]

I'm gonna smash my head against the monitor i keep getting hit by the sunrays in the staircase i damn my slow reaction time and bad parkour skills

[normal phoenix]

where

[long pumice]

absrad

[normal phoenix]

oh lol

[burnt heath]

Well you gotta think where and when to move and also when to attack with no eyes, you just sdash with hu

[scenic frost]

Second best boss

[normal phoenix]

it's funny how the endings are easy easy medium-easy impossible

[normal phoenix]

nah first

[scenic frost]

Nah

[midnight oasis]

No eyes also can't just phase out of the arena leaving you to do nothing for a couple seconds

[burnt heath]

Yeah you can always hit her

Mf hu dissapears for an hour and a half just to come bsck and do it again

[ashen wadi]

except she doesn't always indicate where she is so you have to wander around until you stumble across her

[burnt heath]

Its just plain boring and nto fun

[scenic frost]

Hu is very boring

[normal phoenix]

i should prob tag sis of battle

[burnt heath]

Well not only you can heart it but most of the time you can see the full map, its a bit fun figuring out

[midnight oasis]

that's much more engaging than sitting and waiting

[scenic frost]

Tag?

[burnt heath]

Unlike hu, who does nothing, except completely dissapear

[normal phoenix]

oh wait nvm im not in help

[scenic frost]

Oh

[burnt heath]

Imo no eyes way more engaging

[ashen wadi]

you often just sit and wait for no eyes to come back into sight

or wait for her attacks to go by

no eyes is incredibly boring

[scenic frost]

Not really, you should be chasing her down instead

[scenic frost]

Hu is more boring

[midnight oasis]

that honestly just sounds like a you problem

[ashen wadi]

in godhome maybe, in her normal arena that means jumping into darkness and getting hit

[midnight oasis]

You are supposed to like, move

[burnt heath]

Well you could play like that, or you can chase her and see where she goes, but hu leaves you no option, you will hit him once, he will dissapear, and youll repeat the cycle all over again

[brave blaze]

why i cant shade cloak pure vessel

[scenic frost]

True

[scenic frost]

Big boi

[ashen wadi]

not in her normal arena no

[burnt heath]

Its just so boring not even subway surfer gameplay can save him

[midnight oasis]

yes in her normal arena yes

[burnt heath]

In her normal arena yes like doesnt that one has more platforms even

[ashen wadi]

it shrinks your vision dramatically

[burnt heath]

And less spikes making chasing her easier

[ashen wadi]

if you're moving left and right you can get sniped out of nowhere by projectiles

[scenic frost]

Sounds like a skill issue

[midnight oasis]

all the more reason to get off your lazy bum and move

[burnt heath]

Thats why i said you actually need to think about what youre doing and not just move left and right

[ashen wadi]

except you have to just pick a direction because you have to guess where she is

because you can't see her

[burnt heath]

Middle??????

[ashen wadi]

yes so you have to sit and wait

in the middle

[scenic frost]

Stand in the middle and you'll see her lmao

[burnt heath]

Or just move vertically, through the middle

[scenic frost]

Just get good at the game and move

[burnt heath]

Easier with wings but still very much possible with claw and the platforms

[ashen wadi]

just gonna chalk it up to a reading problem ig

[burnt heath]

Like at least she gives you an option

[ashen wadi]

because I'm not being that ambiguous and people don't seem to understand what I'm sayinng

[scenic frost]

Nah it's just a skill issue

[burnt heath]

You sit and do nothing in hus fight

[ashen wadi]

you do nothing in both fights

[gaunt geyser]

Its for many reasons the worst thing

[burnt heath]

I know what youre saying, thats a strategy, one out of various you can use

You dont have that liberty in hu

[scenic frost]

And it still remains subjective

[burnt heath]

You can move around if you want, but in hu it just wont matter

[gaunt geyser]

I dont wanna discuss this, doesnt seem to be like youd understand rn

[burnt heath]

Imo sounds like an "i hate it cause im bad at it" im sorry

[midnight oasis]

all subjective

[ashen wadi]

p5 is actually pretty weird in terms of balance and how it is integrated mechanically, it's not an issue of difficulty

[burnt heath]

Yeah pretty subjective

[scenic frost]

You said a blatantly incorrect thing (that p5 being bad is OBJECTIVE)

[ashen wadi]

arguably not the worst thing but incoherent implication of a mechanic

[scenic frost]

It's still subjective

[midnight oasis]

What's enjoyable is inherently subjective

[scenic frost]

Yup

[scenic frost]

Real

[ashen wadi]

As a late game for a metroidvania it's objectively bad

[midnight oasis]

Nuh uh

[ashen wadi]

people can still enjoy it

[midnight oasis]

Tammo who is forcing you to do all these bad takes today

[ashen wadi]

but it doesn't do the gameplay loop at all

[scenic frost]

Wrong! Subjective

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-26279280

[ashen wadi]

do you not understand the gameplay loop?

I suppose you don't

[scenic frost]

I understand it fine

[midnight oasis]

Exploring and fighting? Games can branch out to other stuff

[ashen wadi]

then you didn't read what I said

or you didn't understand it

[scenic frost]

You said objectively bad, which is wrong.

[ashen wadi]

read again

[scenic frost]

What is good and what is bad is also subjective

[ashen wadi]

"As a late game for a metroidvania"

[scenic frost]

And that is once again subjective

[ashen wadi]

it's nonfunctional as a late game because it completely eschews the main gameplay

[scenic frost]

I've read your message plenty

[ashen wadi]

then you didn't understand it

[midnight dirge]

Skill issue moment

[scenic frost]

No I perfectly understand your point

[mental gale]

https://tenor.com/view/lorax-gif-23202671

[scenic frost]

It's not a bad point

[ashen wadi]

the only conceivable defense is conceptualizing it as a post game and not as a main component of progression

[scenic frost]

But it's still subjective

[ashen wadi]

bro really didn't read

[mental gale]

https://tenor.com/view/lorax-gif-23202671

[scenic frost]

Thank you @mental gale

[ashen wadi]

what the core gameplay loop of hk is isn't subjective

and that godhome doesn't sustain it is also not subjective

[mental gale]

https://tenor.com/view/lorax-gif-23202671

[scenic frost]

But saying that it's bad is subjective

[midnight dirge]

Its not structured badly it gets harder as it goes and its optional

[midnight oasis]

Whether breaking out from that loop is bad is subjective

[burnt heath]

@mental gale stop that

[scenic frost]

That is indeed subjective

[ashen wadi]

hence the qualifiers I gave

[scenic frost]

Whether ya like it or not

[ashen wadi]

it's not

[mental gale]

😡

[ashen wadi]

you claim to understand my point but your responses are consistently way off the mark

[midnight oasis]

"As a late game for a metroidvania"?

[burnt heath]

Oh no hes angry who will save me now

[ashen wadi]

yes

[midnight oasis]

Well I mean not really, metroidvanias love borrowing stuff from other games

[ashen wadi]

which is also why I said this

[ashen wadi]

that has nothing to do with the point

[scenic frost]

I understand your point. What I'm correcting you about is that your point is inherently subjective.

[burnt heath]

Isnt it literally meant to be post game

[ashen wadi]

it's not

[scenic frost]

Yes it quite literally is

[ashen wadi]

ideally it should be but arguably it's not

[midnight oasis]

They borrow bossrushes. Adding stuff on top of a metroidvania beyond the core gameplay loop helps shake it up and is by no means a bad thing for it's genre.

[midnight dirge]

How the hell is it not

[ashen wadi]

that has nothing to do with what I'm saying

[ashen wadi]

integrating its own ending legitimizes it beyond what it should be

[midnight dirge]

Its a secret ending

[burnt heath]

Well it does require beating every boss in the game and getting voideheart

[midnight dirge]

And you dont HAVE to get it to finish the game

[burnt heath]

Its also mostly done after finishing 112 of the game

[midnight oasis]

What are you saying

[midnight dirge]

So it is indeed post game

[scenic frost]

Yes, it breaking the core gameplay loop of hollow knight is OBJECTIVE. But whether that's bad or not is SUBJECTIVE

[ashen wadi]

I'm saying it's badly integrated into the game overall

[midnight dirge]

Honestly its better integrated into the game than most boss rushes

[midnight oasis]

Well that sounds subjective even with your previous qualifiers

[midnight dirge]

They didnt have to add:lore, new bosses and a new ending

[burnt heath]

Is it though?

[ashen wadi]

it's not

[scenic frost]

Yes, yes it is

[midnight dirge]

They did their best to integrate it into the game without it feeling forced

[burnt heath]

Is it though

[scenic frost]

Saying anything is bad is inherently subjective by definition because it's an opinion.

[ashen wadi]

being severely inconsistent with the gameplay loop is bad integration into the game that's not really subjective

[ashen wadi]

no it means it's incohesive

[midnight dirge]

Most boss rushes break the gameplay loop though?

[ashen wadi]

you're getting too hung up on one specific use of the word "bad," just read

[scenic frost]

Saying it's inconsistent is purely observant and objective. However, you asserting that makes it bad for a metroidvania endgame comes only from you, and your own opinion. Because of this, it is subjective.

[ashen wadi]

words mean different things in different contexts

[scenic frost]

Maybe you should try reading what I'm saying for once.

[midnight oasis]

I find "severely inconsistent" an extreme exaggeration

[ashen wadi]

it's incohesive with the metroidvania gameplay loop making it bad as a game stage for a metroidvania

that's not subjective

people can still like it even if it's bad under those specific parameters

[midnight dirge]

It is, actually

[ashen wadi]

it can still be good even if it's bad under those specific parameters

[scenic frost]

That is 100% subjective

[ashen wadi]

the best apple in the world is a shitty orange

[midnight dirge]

That is like saying caramel ice cream is objectively bad

[ashen wadi]

this really isn't that complicated

[scenic frost]

That's like saying a burger is objectively bad as a combination of ingredients just because the toppings don't fully mix well.

[midnight dirge]

Saying that anything is either bad or good is entirely subjective wether you like it or not

I misspelled whether didnt I

[ashen wadi]

it's not

[midnight oasis]

I feel like "bad" should be replaced with "inconsistent" as it gets the point across clearer

[scenic frost]

Saying that something is bad or good, in ANY context, under any parameters, is by definition subjective

[ashen wadi]

hey look the same straw man used 30 times

[ashen wadi]

hey look the same straw man used 30 times

[ashen wadi]

both are clear

[scenic frost]

Don't care the point still stands

[midnight dirge]

Says the person who said “just read” 50 times

[ashen wadi]

it doesn't

[midnight oasis]

Evidently not

[scenic frost]

Evidently not

[midnight dirge]

Evidently not

[ashen wadi]

if you don't understand what I'm saying that's a you problem

[midnight dirge]

💀

[scenic frost]

You can say that all you want. I can say the exact same thing about you and it would be just as wrong.

If you don't understand what we're saying that's a you problem

[ashen wadi]

if people could simply read what I've said explicitly you would understand

[scenic frost]

See?

[scenic frost]

I love how you constantly assert that we're not paying attention to your argument but we're simply providing counters to your argument.

[ashen wadi]

I'm not making a blanket quality judgement I'm saying that it's ill suited to a specific framework

[midnight dirge]

You complain about us saying the same thing over and over again and yet here you are

[ashen wadi]

you aren't

[scenic frost]

Yes I am

[midnight dirge]

Yes he is

[brave blaze]

i hate pro vessel

[ashen wadi]

are you going to argue that all frameworks are subjective and nothing is ever better suited to anything than anything else?

because that's patently absurd

[midnight dirge]

Yes

[scenic frost]

Yup

[ashen wadi]

then you don't believe in any objective reality

so you're not worth talking to

[midnight dirge]

💀

[scenic frost]

I believe that the earth is round is an objective fact

[ashen wadi]

no you don't

[scenic frost]

Because it is

[midnight dirge]

You are sounding very egotistical right now

[ashen wadi]

you don't believe it's objectively a better model than the flat earth model

[scenic frost]

Whether something fits into a certain framework is purely based on perception

[midnight dirge]

That is subjective

[scenic frost]

I believe that

[ashen wadi]

that's inconsistent with what you said then

[brave blaze]

pro vessel is so hard bro

[scenic frost]

Not really

[ashen wadi]

yes really

[scenic frost]

Tell me how

[ashen wadi]

conceptualizing the earth is flat is not objectively worse than conceptualizing it as round if you believe all frameworks are subjective and something cannot ever be better suited for anything than anything else

all frameworks are subjective and nothing is ever better suited to anything than anything else

you said you agree with that

[brave blaze]

pro vessel is not hard but its so hard bro

[ashen wadi]

you're arguing that nothing can be objectively better to anything else

so the earth being round can't be an objectively better model

[scenic frost]

The flat earth model is objectively disproven using the objective fact of the earth being round. Whether p5 fits within the endgame of a metroidvania is subjective because nothing about that can be proven with facts. You say that it breaking the gameplay loop is a fact, which it is, but that doesn't prove your statement in any way, because that can be subjectively seen as either bad or good, or just fine.

[ashen wadi]

So you concede that things can be better if they are more well suited to criteria (eg a good model being predictive)

[scenic frost]

The perception of whether or not breaking the gameplay loop justifies it as a bad metroidvania endgame makes it subjective

[scenic frost]

IF they're completely covered by true facts and not just more opinions

[ashen wadi]

a good metroidvania game stage is one that sustains and promotes the core gameplay of a metroidvania

[scenic frost]

That in and of itself is subjective

[ashen wadi]

not really

not moreso than saying a good model is one that is predictive and consistent with observation

to say that something is a bad game stage in a metroidvania means that it doesn't promote salient aspects of the game

[scenic frost]

There's no end all, be all dictum that "yes, a metroidvania stage must promote the core gameplay"

That definition is subjective

[ashen wadi]

To function as a metroidvania it does

p5 makes hollow knight less of a metroidvania when you're doing it

[scenic frost]

Yes, whether or not a game is a metroidvania is objective, but whether a stage of the game is considered fitting for that genre is not.

[midnight dirge]

Its only objective based on your subjective thoughts

[scenic frost]

True

[ashen wadi]

it's not fitting if it doesn't have the gameplay markers of the genre

genre swaps in fiction are fine, they can happen.

[scenic frost]

That's your subjective opinion

[ashen wadi]

but it is a swap

[midnight dirge]

The gameplay markers that are subjective

[ashen wadi]

it's not, it's how genres work

[scenic frost]

Whether its fitting or not is subjective

[midnight dirge]

Yeah, based on your subjective thoughts

[ashen wadi]

in some blurred cases? sure. In the case of p5? definitely not

[brave blaze]

i hate ya puer vesel

[midnight oasis]

the argument is still going wtf

[ashen wadi]

the existence of grey does not mean things cannot be black or white

[midnight dirge]

You forgot to add Imo

[scenic frost]

If you want to believe that your own subjective opinion is objective fact, that's fine. What other point do opinions have? But asserting to us that your subjective opinion trumps all of our other subjective opinions just because you can provide reasoning is completely absurd and illogical.

[ashen wadi]

bruh really

[midnight dirge]

Maybe read

[ashen wadi]

"no your objective arguments don't lend weight to the objectivity of your claim"

[midnight oasis]

Reading comprehension hard :C

[midnight dirge]

The problem is your arguments are subjective therefor the objectivity of your claim isnt there

[ashen wadi]

they're not

[scenic frost]

Once again asserting your subjective opinion as objective, I see

[midnight dirge]

Oh but they are

[ashen wadi]

that's not a rebuttal

[midnight oasis]

A boss rush mode being inconsistent with the rest of the metroidvania elements isn't subjective

[scenic frost]

Half of your "rebuttals" aren't either

[ashen wadi]

indeed it isn't!

[midnight dirge]

Yeah but saying it is bad is

[ashen wadi]

straw man

[scenic frost]

Indeed, that fact is objective. However, saying it doesn't fit the game is subjective.

[midnight oasis]

Context is important and that's not what bad was being used for

[midnight dirge]

Its subjective

[scenic frost]

Saying "strawman" and "just read" every other time we disagree with you is not a rebuttal either.

[jovial hull]

I’d say godhome actually makes a good amount of sense and is explained pretty well in the lore. It fits the game quite well imo

[midnight oasis]

Saying it breaks the pattern of the game (Thus not fitting it) is literally objective

[ashen wadi]

the lore of godhome is held together with twine and scotch tape

[midnight dirge]

I agree but it isnt objective either

[scenic frost]

Whether or not it fits is subjective, breaking the pattern is not

[jovial hull]

But who am I to go comment on something I’ve put the last 7 months of my life into understanding

[midnight oasis]

subjective this subjective that

[jovial hull]

I don’t feel that way

[midnight dirge]

Objective this objective that

[ashen wadi]

whether it fits and whether or not it breaks the patterns are the inverse of the same parameter

[midnight oasis]

Not fitting means breaking the pattern in this case

[jovial hull]

I feel like it could be better but it’s genuinely quite easy to understand

[ashen wadi]

something fits if it doesn't break the pattern, if something breaks the pattern it doesn't fit

[midnight dirge]

It fitting in is subjective

[scenic frost]

No they definitely aren't. One is an objective observable fact and the other is something that relies on your human perception to decide.

[midnight oasis]

No it's not. You can't just say everything is subjective dude to sound smart.

[tacit cipher]

look above the knight on the ceiling

[ashen wadi]

that's just false

[midnight dirge]

Ok and you cant say everything is objective to sound smart

[ashen wadi]

a priori

[midnight oasis]

I'm not bub

[crude galleon]

The one dot?

[midnight dirge]

Oh but you are

[scenic frost]

One small piece of calm in this sea of argument

[tacit cipher]

the dead bug

[midnight oasis]

Saying that it doesn't fit within a pattern is indeed objective

[jovial hull]

This is probably the dumbest argument I’ve ever seen in this channel.

[ashen wadi]

you don't say

[midnight oasis]

no u

[jovial hull]

Let’s move back to actually cool stuff https://youtu.be/Ay8xSWAT62Y

[scenic frost]

Within a pattern? Yes. Fitting as a stage of a metroidvania? No.

[tacit cipher]

there is a small infection particle

[midnight oasis]

Bro....

[tacit cipher]

and next to that there is a dead abyss crawler or whatever they're called

[midnight oasis]

The pattern is the stages within a metroidvania

[scenic frost]

I've made my point multiple times I cannot go further

[ashen wadi]

well the pattern is the gameplay systems that are the markers of the genre

[scenic frost]

Whatever you guys decide to do next you can, I won't participate because I have nothing left to add.

I can only reiterate the point I've tried making numerous times before

[jovial hull]

This is about 3 minutes faster than CC’s any% TAS so far, but CC’s could be more optimized so maybe around 1 or 2 minutes faster than a normal VS getting any%?

I dunno exact numbers for this

[midnight oasis]

Those gameplay systems and markers are inherently tied to the stages

[ashen wadi]

yeah

[jovial hull]

Please shut up about godhome ffs

[scenic frost]

Cool

[toxic nova]

only part of the game

[ashen wadi]

only part of the game that's mid

[jovial hull]

Bunch of OW players arguing about why godhome doesn’t fit

[ashen wadi]

everything else is great or shit

[jovial hull]

Literally the entire game barely fits together, it’s a community funded game made in 2 years by a small team

It’s genuinely shocking that it’s as good as it is

[scenic frost]

Lol

[midnight oasis]

[scenic frost]

Yeah lol it's shocking how well done it looks

[jovial hull]

And it’s even more shocking that it even works with things like libTAS and SOCD

[midnight oasis]

I'd argue it's map design, lore, and combat fit together very elegantly

[thin hatch]

Tbf Overwatch players play a good game so they’re probably well suited to this argument

[scenic frost]

It looks and plays (normal gameplay, not glitch hunting) like a game made in 4 years, not 2!

[ashen wadi]

hk's a very well put together game in most regards excluding godhome and grimm troupe which are weird and tangential

[jovial hull]

It looks like a game made in 4, then you accidentally get turnaround airwalk while walking

[midnight oasis]

please speak english

[ashen wadi]

but that's part of the difficulty in introducing new content

[jovial hull]

Wow, the things that we are added after the base game was released and developed don’t feel 100% in place?

[scenic frost]

:0

[jovial hull]

If you’re really that angered by the existence of godhome, go play on 1315

[scenic frost]

Who woulda guessed

[ashen wadi]

I'm not...

[jovial hull]

And if you don’t like the Grimm troupe, may I introduce you to a glitchy but fun patch, 1028

[toxic nova]

[ashen wadi]

you seem to really not understand what my point was

[toxic nova]

tammo please stop being aggressive

[midnight oasis]

I am

[jovial hull]

Then why have you spent the past half hour arguing about it??

[midnight oasis]

average #hk-lore regular

[jovial hull]

I can provide you with the manifest id for 1315 if you wanna go play that patch. 1221 is more fun tho

[ashen wadi]

I'm not angered by its existence I just don't think it does a good job of carrying on the gameplay loop from the game and its implementation is disjointed

[midnight oasis]

I have no idea what either of those patches are

[jovial hull]

Coulda said that half an hour ago and then left the conversation

[ashen wadi]

there's a difference between arbitrarily hating everything and anything about something and having specific criticisms of specific attributes of it

[ashen wadi]

I did say it

[midnight oasis]

Serrara jumpscare

[jovial hull]

First (and I think only) patch of the lifeblood update and last patch of the Grimm troupe update, respectively.

[lyric niche]

Godhome is cool

[jovial hull]

True

[ashen wadi]

overall I think godhome is pretty good, p1 through p4 are fun, and the new bosses are great (other than winged nosk which is a letdown), and HoG is a great qol feature

[midnight oasis]

Im cooler

[toxic nova]

there are 5 pantheons not 4

[jovial hull]

Godhome is extremely useful for TASes and modded bosses aswell

[ashen wadi]

p5 has some issues with redundancy in bosses and just generally being a slog to get through

[scenic frost]

WRONG! I'm cooler

[jovial hull]

Smells like skill issue

[lyric niche]

Fr just don't die

[ashen wadi]

it's not but ok

[midnight oasis]

OK then why am I so cool

[lyric niche]

P5 never felt like a slog to me

[ashen wadi]

what I was referring to is more things like both bosses and their variants being represented which doesn't relaly serve any purpose other than tacking on superfluous time sinks into every run

[lyric niche]

I really liked it and I took me around 5 attempts

[scenic frost]

Lol I love going back to funny discord speak rather than full blown paragraphs

[ashen wadi]

they could've cut out base versions of lk, fc, st, even wd

[toxic nova]

full names please

[ashen wadi]

and maybe lost some minor bosses like soul warrior and vfk

[jovial hull]

Skill issue imo just use flukes

[midnight oasis]

skill issue imo touch grass

[jovial hull]

Flukes are the solution to all problems

[jovial hull]

So true bestie

[ashen wadi]

p5 has a lot of filler that doesn't really serve any point, and it's not the hard bosses that are the problem it's the piss easy ones

[lyric niche]

What is wd

[midnight oasis]

worstie

[ashen wadi]

p5 would be much more fun if it was just the harder ones

[jovial hull]

White defender

[jovial hull]

Okay now you’re making excuses why you don’t do it?

[ashen wadi]

I have done it

[lyric niche]

I mean they wanted basically every boss so they added almost every boss

[toxic nova]

I mean he has a point

[midnight oasis]

no Pale Lurker :C

[jovial hull]

Do it better. Overcharm with flukes.

[ashen wadi]

yes I understand why they made that decision I just think it could be more fun if they cut out some of the filler

it's not like they didn't remove base mantis lords and nosk

[lyric niche]

If pale lurker was a boss it would be one of the bad ones. Like on the level of elder hu

[toxic nova]

I did like 2-3 runs of p5 before I got bored and tried it again when I was 100% sure I'd win

[ashen wadi]

they could've given that treatment to more bosses

[lyric niche]

I mean those are p5 exclusive

[midnight oasis]

p5 should take like ~10 minutes rather than ~30 imo

[ashen wadi]

I know

[toxic nova]

30?

[midnight oasis]

My PB is 26 minutes

[toxic nova]

[ashen wadi]

but that they were willing to remove the base forms (not any specific reason for why) is my point

and since they were already making some compromises they could've made some more along similar lines

[jovial hull]

Nice opinion, unfortunately https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-25277476

[toxic nova]

is that anyrad

[lyric niche]

Yeah there are spikes on final phase

[jovial hull]

Yeah I’m pretty sure

[lyric niche]

Unless that's another mod

[burnt heath]

Noway nix defeats anyrad wr!?!?!?!?

[jovial hull]

Lmaooo no never

[lyric niche]

No hit wr

[burnt heath]

Hitless!?!?!?

[jovial hull]

I stole the gif from anyrad cord

[burnt heath]

CONGRATSSSS

OMG IM SO HAPPY FOR YOU

[jovial hull]

I’ve fought each version of anyrad but just once to make sure they worked on 1432 Linux

[burnt heath]

Omg how much time did it take you

[jovial hull]

I beat them hitless first try

[jovial hull]

8 seconds

[burnt heath]

[cunning sonnet]

i made my freind hwo never played hollow knight rank these caracters

[ashen wadi]

ranked by what

[midnight oasis]

TK in god tier, good list

[jovial hull]

Well, zotes ranking is wrong, unn’s ranking is wrong, uumuu’s ranking is way off, as is lemm’s and iselda

[midnight oasis]

underappreciated character

[ashen wadi]

should be one tier up

[toxic nova]

you should ask #hk-discussion to rate your tier list too

[midnight oasis]

shrue

[jovial hull]

NO DONT

[ashen wadi]

god of gods

[midnight oasis]

what was the article saying that the main character lacked character progression in HK

[ashen wadi]

I mean a lot of people think it doesn't have one so technically yes

[ashen wadi]

in what conceivable regard

[midnight oasis]

Ah this one

[tired current]

Emilitia is the best NPC she is far too low

[jovial hull]

…this one

[ashen wadi]

ig arguably it doesn't demonstrate internal growth directly (though vh explicitly entails it) since it doesn't talk

[jovial hull]

Ahh fuck you guys were too fast

[toxic nova]

oh my god I remember that

[ashen wadi]

based???

[toxic nova]

one of the worst readings

[midnight oasis]

The progression besides Voidheart and accepting themselves is through the player gradually learning about the combat and world

[ashen wadi]

moss knights are the most engaging mobs and they're in the second area, it's downhill from there

[loud sigil]

It’s like the person who couldn’t get past the cuphead tutorial

[jovial hull]

[midnight oasis]

Mossknights being in the second area and the most engaging 🐌

Titular player

[jovial hull]

BULLSHIT

[burnt heath]

Gamerant???

[ashen wadi]

tbf some wp spots have very tight timing but they're not impossible by any measure

[burnt heath]

Please ban them from making any articles ever again

[jovial hull]

Oh also this one is both blatantly wrong and not a “harsh reality of replaying hollow knight”

[gaunt geyser]

Iirc this is like ai text 🥸

[tired current]

Anyone who finds the platforming near impossible has a colossal skill issue, the likes of which have never been seen before

[burnt heath]

Im sorry WHAT

[ashen wadi]

and hk's replayability is decent but not particularly good, early game is particularly annoying when you're used to having things like claws and wings, and at some point there's only so many orders in which you can do things

[burnt heath]

Please like ban these bitches rn

[jovial hull]

I’ve played on phone, switch, pc, Xbox, and ps4, only ever experienced FPS issues on phone

[toxic nova]

[tired current]

Gaming Journalism is a crime

[burnt heath]

Wdym phone 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

[jovial hull]

Xbox cloud gaming, so actually no, 0 pirating went on

[midnight oasis]

mods please ban nix

[gaunt geyser]

Ban nix the pirate

[toxic nova]

xmate

[burnt heath]

MEGABASED

Then its your internet btw

[jovial hull]

Very much paid for, thank you very much.

[tired current]

You say bonjour now but soon you’ll be saying arrivederci when you’re headed to prison pirate

Yar har

[ashen wadi]

idk why that list wouldn't have lackluster customization on it but whatever can't ask too much

[burnt heath]

Ive played in pc, deck, switch, xbox and ps, i agree with nix

[jovial hull]

I’ve got it on like 4 or 5 devices tbh

[midnight oasis]

see this is exactly why silksong should have dyed cloaks!

[tired current]

Wait is arrivederci French or Italian

[burnt heath]

No among us deck

[ashen wadi]

[burnt heath]

Who tf buys a steam deck???

[jovial hull]

Salty console player who doesn’t have custom knight

[burnt heath]

OH MY GOD I HAVE A STEAM DECK THANKS GOD

[midnight oasis]

nah I have custom knight

[burnt heath]

My pc is not broken after all

[ashen wadi]

fr though ss loadout options look like a huge step up, like it's hard to even imagine how much more replayability there could be

[burnt heath]

Excuse me what

[ashen wadi]

ew

[burnt heath]

This isnt sof i have them blocked

[ashen wadi]

gross it's contagious

[burnt heath]

Who the fuck did this

[ashen wadi]

[tired current]

Rose

[burnt heath]

I swear ill beat up whoever did this
And sof for good measure too

[burnt heath]

And who is that?

[tired current]

@lime zodiac

[midnight oasis]

hk-discussion user

[tired current]

I snitched on ya!

[burnt heath]

YOU, EXPLAIN YOURSELF

[ashen wadi]

if you hit the inbox thing you can read the message without opening the channel

[jovial hull]

Proof of payment

[lime zodiac]

im so sorry ive made a terrible mistake

[burnt heath]

Not on pc, but if i hit the little x at the top roght it makes the channel dissapear entirely

[lime zodiac]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/283680756159741953/1076978578253692948/manatee_kiss.gif

[burnt heath]

ANOTHER ONE????

Tell me why just why

Oh my fucking god

[tired current]

AINT NOTHING BUT A HEARTACHE

[jovial hull]

AINT NOTHING BUT A MISTAKE

[burnt heath]

YRUE

[crude galleon]

Now do 4 ms

[jovial hull]

On phone?

[tired current]

I something something HEAR YOU SAY

[crude galleon]

Yes

[jovial hull]

I WANT IT THAT WAY

[jovial hull]

That’s a current patch run?

[burnt heath]

I dont even know you why did you ping me specifically 🤨

[crude galleon]

Yes

[burnt heath]

@lime zodiac 🤨

[valid falcon]

IronRose more like

[jovial hull]

Oh gods but phone is rly laggy

[tired current]

Why do you hate #hk-discussion anyways

[valid falcon]

smelly

[burnt heath]

Its a long story, also common sense

[jovial hull]

JoJoker more like

[crude galleon]

1578 and 1432 are optimal

[tired current]

Forgot to consider common sense, understandable

[burnt heath]

Omg joky best friend

[valid falcon]

gronk

Back to work

[burnt heath]

Can you head into hell (hkdisc) and figure it out for me bestie

[tired current]

Did I just see a Grimm pfp for a second?

[crude galleon]

Tbh offtopic is usually just better than discussion

[tired current]

Or am I seeing things

[burnt heath]

Banned

[tired current]

Oh I saw that