#sk-discussion
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ezio trilogy is my childhood
me and my brothers played so much brotherhood so when we traveled to rome we knew where we were and stuff
damn what
we for exampled recognized castel sant'angelo


getting the armor in brotherhood is really rewarding
the brohus or whate?
nice profile picture
brutus?
btw what do you think about revelations? i played it years ago but i dont remember if the game is that good
i remember that it was a big change from brotherhood
if you really think about it purple and orange is basically the same color
theres a bunch of new things but i like it
i also feel like you can feel / notice that ezio is getting older and more sluggish
or thats just my imagination making things up
maybe i should play it again
go for it
you can definetely feel it
falsehood
same for you 

7 water?
if anybody notices, depart
cheese
😳
7 bottles? 7 liters?
yes 7 water. Do you not understand?
7 water
7
i have so many questions
7 water
is it more than 7?
i wanna experience playing Kratos
i am having a mental breakdown
then i shalt be the provider of the mental fixup
Lmao i do that constantly
getting that was really hard for a 7 year old
really was
but its quite honestly sick
I'm sorry
Simo up what crimes will he commit
to fixup the mentality one must think about the last time there was a moth under a streetlamp
and commence the inner glimpses into the space behind it
that was drip
a. war crime
b. assault/battery
c. arson
d. conspiracy
still is tbh
really is
c
arson is for losers
playing assassins creed without hidden dagger feels so wrong
simo aint one of those
🔥
after i did pretty much everything in the ezio trilogy i started playing AC4
facts
getting the ac4 armor is soooooo
i tried the new valhalla game but the only thing i did was just gambling and drinking
walking around with the apple of eden was such a badass moment
tbh the only games that i tried after ezio trilogy was ac4, ac rogue, the one with the brothers and thats it
does it still exists??'xmdmkm???!?!?!
oh no i meant in the older games
oh yea
iirc the apple got destroyed
fuck i want a better pc and money to buy the entire ac collection on steam
good times
same
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9V8sDa04Mc this right here is why i want to play god of war
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goosebumps fucking everywhere
wish i could listen rn
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JONNY 
Sam 
has jonny played god of war?
no
I have not
the council shall judge yours act
jonny is cool so is fine tho
Have you played bubsy 3D?
the real questions
NOOOOOOOOOCNONONONO
Your answer will affect your modhood
that game...
i mean, i would say, if you could play ac1 before any of the others do that
but if youve played ac2 and beyond its hard to go back ig
welp as a kid i never tried to understand the lore so i'm good to go
i only remember that everyone who hold the apple of eden becomes giga chad
iirc the side missions is just rinse and repeat
i would reccomend only doing main story
noted
Yes, it is the best game ever made. Unmatched. 10/10. Zenith. Peak fiction.
good
jonny and joker, what are your childhood games?
ac1 is not nearly as good as its sequels
Kirby's Return to Dreamland for the Wii. I remember 100%ing that game. 

Sonic Colors for the DS
also a DS rabbids time travel game
This is what made boys into men.
i remember i had a gameboy advance sp and i used to play this finding nemo game
also a link to the past i think
😳
don't be weird
i also remember we used to have a 8-bit system
thats probably in the basement vibing somewhere
this'll kick your ass 
i never had a wii growing up
repeatedly, then it'll spit in your face
8-bit system, xbox-360 (with kinect pog), pc
idk what else, a gameboy advance sp i guess
stfu
I remember watching a lot of Patapon 1, 2 and 3 gameplay on Youtube
looks elite AF
Those games always seemed so cool
ofc it was cool it was goddamn Patapon
the best army management sim since Total War
Maybe I should "play" them sometime. 
but Total War wishes it was Patapon
youth fitness
Honestly, Orange/Purple is just 
never played any spyro game at all kekw
alrighty aftere Celeste i am close to adding a no Earthbound rule here
And I don't mean watching playthroughs on youtube.
https://youtu.be/sQ4DXB5yJzw?t=13 god i hated this mission
jonny I don't think anybody cares about emulating games for obsolete systems 
I know. I just wanted to joke.
You had Kinect while wii had motion controls
are the Spyro games any good, now that you think of it?
yes.
but not the one I linked
lol
Also, Ttacco, I was looking around and doing some research and I got another Qud story for you. Apparently, you can become such a powerful esper that a transhumanism society starts hunting you down because you're abusing the laws of the universe and they don't like that. God, I need to play this game so badly.
Wii U is an underrated system
Super paper mario
i feel like kenshi is suchj a cool game if you get into it
holy shit has this qud game literally been in EA for seven years
Hey Tammo I got my ink
nice
Yes but it's releasing in early 2023
i did get into kenshi for some time because it gave me the same Mount and Blade vibe, my favorite was a 15vs 8 duel between a bandit a my group on some chokepoint near a river
after playing Forgotten Land, it feels weird playing the 2D games outside of SuperStar or the 3DS ones
my only issue its grindy af
mm
The game is a massive thing so it makes sense it's taking so much time to polish, make and get right. Don't want to mess something like this up after all.
I'm not criticizing I just think it's kinda funny
this is the type of complexity that will most likely never happen in some graphical game
not arguing about "superiority" and that shit
then it would be like 2PB big 
but rather the tradeoff of lacking graphics vs content
What's crazy is that the game still looks better and more stylized than most other traditional roguelikes
which is where traditional roguelikes exel
That I've seen at least
Like it has a unique vibe and charm to the aesthetic that I really like
yeah unfortunately a lot of traditional roguelikes can be kinda plain or pure ascii
That sounds like so many games
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Looks interesting
i remember playing it a while back and really enjoying the story
heres another ascii based roguelike made by a single dude as a hobby and you can make ascii stylized
Nice
this looks like it would take long to learn
not really
its top down
the radius is your light
and theres the typical abilities and shit
looks cool
the dev was basically just showcasing his changes here hence he teleported
Everything is turn based for most, if not all, traditional roguelikes so you can think about each move you make before you make it
i like oldstyle stuff but ascii is a bit out of my aesthetic zone
doesnt click with me
and by think you mean find a narrow corridor, funnel them and then slaugther them one by one
let alone an ascii rpg

this why qud goated (i have not played the game)
which is why i also cant play Dwarf Fortress without a tileset
yeah i looked at it and it looks like something a lot of people are gonna enjoy
but I just cant play those games
no interest
this looks so jumbled
i would have lots of fun watching people play them though
Yea, I was about to say that there's a Steam version in the works for Dwarf Fortress
rimworld looks cool
Rimworld is good but its basically DF lite in terms of complexity
I think DF might be stretching it for me cause you have to manage a whole society
I like focusing on my one character.
Rimworld feels auto generaty even with their characters
DF?
think of Dwarf Fortress as an ant colony sim
Dwarf Fortress
ohok
“Fun”
war of my eyes
War of 80s TV
GG
Or before probably
factorio looks so cool but it also looks hard to learn

I've had some friends who were into Factorio
also Dwarf Fortress trading mechanics is pretty good
I, uh, like Google Earth
they send a Liason first, then they talk to you
then you can make demands of what you can export easily or what you need the most
like say for the human will first show what they need the most so you can easily get more money for those types of materials, then you can give your demands of what YOU need so the caravan will prioritize bringing more of it once they arrive BUT ofc theyre gonna slap a slightly bigger cost to it
and you generate so much wealth that the next goblin attack you get is composed of 80 strong men filled with really powerful units so yeah grats your run will now end
learned that the hardway
sounds cool 
its a clever game
wish rimworld has more interactions with the outside
right now the factions feel like theyre just there
i did already talk about the Dwarf Fortress cat bug right?
iunno
I read this whole thing and processed none of it
tldr
Bug was happening where random cats were dying randomly
Turns out when dwarves drink at taverns they spill alcohol on the floor
Back then unit of measurement for water was "1 unit" with no point difference
Cats would walk around taverns which means theyd get alcohol on their paws
Cats naturally lick themselves to clean themselves
Since liquid is by units, 1 unit of alcohol is enough to kill their livers due to their small body:weight ratio
Cats then die
incredible
literally awesome
This bug is how you know your game is too complicated
the guy is going to try and simulate life
which is why its at version 0.40 which iirc means "40% of simulating real life"
well when your game is visually like navigating radar the gameplay better be good to compensate
lmao yeah
what happens if the game goes to version 1.2
DF bitches be like "this gameplay is fire"
also there is a lot of freedom with expanding gameplay and weird quirks to the max
That’s actually pretty terrifying
good luck simulating evolution properly
tbh i dont think were gonna see 1.0 with Toady still living so theres actual talks of concerns if his death will includes open sourcing the project
i know it sounds uhh
morbid
no that makes a lot of sense
Individual genomes
yeah makes sense i guess
but considering HE only has access to it and hes like 50, there are talks and concerns for a failsafe option
because seriously losing something like this forever IS gonna be sore
yeah
How long has it been in development
Would you have been older if it had been 2005
depends on when in 2005
thats still longer than some peoples life spans in this discord
yes
because i still remember bugs where mass is calculated but volume wasnt
so you could put infinite amount of stuff inside a container which will proportionately increase its mass
so a guy would kill some enemy, put their body in a casket, then use that casket as a makeshift hammer, then hed kill someone with it, put their corpse inside, then rinse and repeat
eventually the casket got so much mass that hitting someone with it is enough to jettison them into a million pieces across the map
scary
me exact thought
Woah amina pick name
also 2005 buddies 
lol
yes I remember this
2005 buddies 
banger
yeah, i now have access to 20 different iterations of 

When in 05 tho
feb
yeah again game is super detailed which is why im willing to give it a pass despite its permadeath nature vs to more modern roguelites
I’m in the middle, may
fuck you amina 
no offense to them, modern roguelites are more focused on action but for me the interactions of stuff in traditional roguelikes is what makes it appealing to me
hey its your birthday soon though, just a few more months!
!!!
features such as fire interacting with folliage would be an afterthought on these games
Yeah but you’re old
tbf
Monolith
I was 7 then
I was 12 then
jonny 00
great you guys are giving me a legit mid life crisis
I'm a 2000 boy, yes
stop lol
Have fun being old
You can never go back
nice and satisfying age
jonny is 2000 years old? no way!
lets hope its not a midlife crisis, you're still young trawko
you cant be dying on me now
He is as old as 2000 boys
how old is the average boy
so jonny is 18000
well there is teenager
@gilded adder what was life on the savannah like
id say that he is between 10000 and 24000 years old
Living in trees, eating berries
who is the oldest mod
a guaranteed 342 days of life
cryo chamber until SS is out
damn time to petition TC to cancel SS for an immortal ttacco
"$100 per copy"
- Shandow
so we totally cant bully them 
water?
Water and Zal are both in their 30s I think
well canceling it cancels ttacos immortality. Let's just delay it forever
Imagine moderating this server for 30 years...
I think water is like 28ish. not sure how old Zal is
Curly is canonically the oldest server member
ping and ask 

nice to see u too window
idk
im 16, but thats rounding up, in actuality im 3 months old
It’ll be soon grandpa
maybe ill feel young if a make a quake montage
Window is here :0
Let’s get you to bed now
hi ttacco
doom frag compilation
granddad whats a quake
this is how it feels to be a hollow cord mod
I don’t have a bed
thats a big cope ttacco
quoting that one, Window
Im HOME LESS
We woke up one morning and fell a little further down
For sure it's the valley of death
I open up my wallet
And it's full of blood
window saying "i dont have a bed" at 3 am is kinda funny
BECOME HOME MORE
this is your home now
its a Hollows Like
Im 99. Next year I wont be able to play with lego
hunger games go crazy for u huh
Aka "not Doom"
granddad taco, tell me about your childhood
no wonder u keep winning kekw
He will soon win thrice
Anyone ever step on a Lego?
i think ive only won once, so fair enough
Yes
wait lemme check
Yeah, it's a pain
yes. they died
STEPPING ON A POWER PLUG IS WORSE
I felt nothing while stepping on a Lego
Wait who died?
the lego
RIP
these mfs will kill you
ever knelt on lego
I won all my hunger games matches that I didn’t participate
impressive
ever slipped on a suspicious banana
yes actually, it hurt
Yes
This mfs need their wife
And their wife is a socket
i once tried joining a quake match because it was a 2/6 lobby then turns out these guys were playing 1v1s and immediately left when i joined
I win all hunger games matches
I'm poor can't afford food
I’ve stepped on a nail before
hi joker
this reminds me of when i played tf2
joker i have another lava lamp
Silksong 1v1 on on the lava map
This is just like when I try to hang out with my friends.
please no
Lava lamp 
I dare someone to beat R5AB with no upgrades. 5hp. 33 soul. 5 damage. maybe unupgraded spells
you won’t believe what happens next!
AB would not be 99 soul
Gimme $78 and I'll do it
Eating lava lamp at 3am to see what happened?!1?1? (NOT CLICK BAIT)
whats ur paypal
in fact thats a buff right there 

throwing a lava lamp at joker at 3 am
Lmao
You have 6 hours, JoJoker.
Pain
I made spelling mistake I must leave chat
No don't
It's the law
Who made the law?
Joker
Oh
@joker can we get a confirm?
just ping him smh
Yep
You?
last time i pinged a mod i got muted for a day.
looooooool
the joker image fits well here
thats fuckin hilarious

Okay then
OBLOVLE 
SAM 
i swear it was unintentional
i havent seen you in a while, how are you?
with context it kinda makes sense
I'm good
yeah but i still tried to clear it up by saying i didnt mean to and i still got the 🔇
but the past is the past so 

Wow
@mods
cough
oh no chat died
Hey
sup
@grave snow

Chat wakey

i seem to be very good at killing chat, watch:
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Y’know what’d be perfect for #sk-discussion? Discussing hypothetical ideas for hk charms
hold on a sec i know where to go
Tell us where
Hornet should have a tool where she's ballin
sharp silk
I guess the red horn is kinda ballin
oh wait there's a sharp-shadow dash thingy except it's silk on the reveal trailer
openai playground
Um...is that a website or......
I propose a charm where if you’re at full health and then focus, you obtain a lifeblood mask
i cant find it, it used to exist but now im getting 404s
but inferkit is the same so use this https://app.inferkit.com/demo
are you ever so bored you walk into your bigger brothers room and just watch him play gta while you talk random shit with eachother than go upstairs and make a nutella sandwich afterwards
i would never
how was the nutella sandwich?
it is very good
I set it on fire
my nutella sandwich is on fire?
its in my mouth / stomach now so guess well never know
unless i burn up from the inside
I gave it to hamster
staff channels
kek
This channel when it's actually Silksong discussion
damn
so pretty much when I talk about silksong 😎
so basically 3 times per lifetime?
charm ideas in ss-disc go
I think Sam meant like, realistically
I'd like to see a passive tool that's like a good version of heavy blow
let me explain
kinda cool, just sitting, reading peoples theories and speculating
this tool would give increased knockback, but only to hornet's dash attack. Additionally, enemies would take extra damage upon impacting a wall or another enemy
and maybe in simo's eyes seeing if anyone gets anything spot on
https://beta.openai.com/playground you have to make an account but its very fun
what about when it's not silksong
it now combines hk with dnd
simo poofs out of existence when silksong is not being discussed
asks the AI how many lemons you need for a lemonade
whenever a serious silksong discussion starts simo instantly tp's into the channel

When life gives you lemons, make a pitcher
lemonade is just lemons, water, and sugar
tx bro
when life gives you lemons, take an orange instead because FUCK lemons
anything else youd like to ask the ai
Where the secret ingredient?
tbh imo simo is wrong
Orange and tangerine are the same color
wrong about what
this chat talking about silksong is just a common chat, the real fun is when we are talking about smth else
so this chat normally?
yea
this chat talking about silksong is rare
yes
it didn't used to be 
time was, we could continue talking about one trailer for months on end
i wonder if hornet would enlighten or tell people in pharloom of the knight
now where are we
here
hollow morbius:morbiusheart edition morbiusong
Grover be here

Hello Grover
:v
PK did you like my tool suggestion
Would you like to dicuss something SS related
you might have heard it already
I might've but I'm fine hearing it again
relevant
heavy blow but good
do you know about the vessel in hallownest? yea? yep thats my brother

I'm intrigued
increases the knockback of only the dash attack and makes enemies take bounce damage from hitting walls or each other when struck with said dash attack
and he is dead
i wonder if other places / kingdoms would have heard about the little knight
little knight that could, little ghost
probably only about the vessel thing but not about the knight
Can you bounce an enemy into a wall have it bounce back into you and play volleyball with the enemy?
little ghost
uh oh OpenAI wants classism
I was kinda imagining they just stop when they hit a wall
little motherfucker is also a good name for the knight
hornet has to stitch the kingdom back together to its former glory
Oh I see
Actually I just got an idea
What if we had a whip like tool?
Hornet do be using Silk
could work
but im scared to see what hk community would do with hornets whip ability
I feel bow tool is a given
What are you talking about we're gonna whip the enemies!
I'd make a joke but it's against the rules
well hornet's active tools haven't really incorporated her silk so far
if it was one of those weird modifications of her skills, maybe
Perhaps
like the dash skill in the new trailer
I dont think we will see a bow. but thats more me not wanting one
Heyyy Curly
oh nonono i think my mind is corrupted
Uncorrupt it then stinky
Hey Pillow!

I am gaming
INB4 the silksong discussion chat was created for team cherry to get ideas
The gamingest game, Called Celeste
how about u do this for me
Graig and Leth lurk in this chat I wouldn't be surprised if at least one was grabbed
celeste is really one of the games in the world
But if we have less than a year until release I doubt anything major is being added at this point
game/10
Indeed
Game/Game
Such game
Much play
tbh if you play celeste then you are a player
i wonder what kind of abilities hornet would have
The lore person is here!
i mean weve seen a couple but, new ones of course
circles
Yes, circles
That background makes me nauscious
catapult / slingshot ability
wow
Trebuchet ability when
This tho
trippy
any news
?sspsa
My brain ouch
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
i beg you ive seen all the pinned and the announcements NOT THE-
?sspsa
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
Does discussing hypothetical new tools count as news
paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain
insert believer by imagine dragon
what wasent a snail i just wanted to know what the command was so i can send it whenever people ask
wiiiithout looooove
Tool/s has been said 30,410 times
imagine if hornet could catapult herself through pharloom, bhopping around, through ivy, out middle and through our connector
and then some random music plays
and the ESEA admin says that hornet is not scripting
that would be sick imo
when did the joke start going downhill?
like right at the beginning, the middle or the end?
i kinda feel like it went downhill at the beginning
Meh.
but i held on to it since its a good refrence either way
I have my own concerns for Silksong if I'm honest, mostly around how differently Hornet is set to play compared to The Knight.
i mean, i guess that it gives the game a bit of charm
I'm not a fan of how Hornets Needle seems to play in the Trailers tbh, or how long and winding her jumps seem to be.
I forgot to post these pngs of the characters
instead of making a second game with the exact same moveset and shit
this being my point
Which I don't get why if they did would be a problem. Some of the best games franchises of all time do that - in fact I'd argue the vast super majority do.
maybe the game is slower paced
God of War did that for 5 straight games.
the souls series
And it never once got old.
Prince of Persia, The Souls Series for the most part.
Games having the same moveset with minor additions from past games isn't boring - that's how video game sequels have mostly worked for going on 2.5 decades.
very true
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Regardless, The Knights dead and gone so we have Hornet.
My only gripe with Hornet is how aerial she seems to be in the trailers, and how imprecisely she controls compared to The Knight.
Listening to it rn, inspirational lyrics, keep at it folks, lifes hard and bullshit
👍
I'm sure it'll be fine once I do play it - I have every intention to buy it after the masterpiece that HK was - but rn I'm skeptical.
Everything looks....looser, than it did in the last game.
i understand what you mean
Jsab song
but it might be as i said differently paced
might be easier and stuff that we dont know
ss looks looser than hk? man. I see it as the exact opposite. especially after the last trailer. hk looks all floating and shit
Pog
hornet has more weight to her yeah
hornets moveset is different so it would probably be easier to weave in and out hitting them through theyre shields and blocks and stuff
The last one
HK looks more precise in my eyes
I don't see how one can come to that conclusion....Hornets jump time is significantly longer than The Knights, she moves a lot faster, and she moves in the air horizontally far more to both the left and right.
Well, the issue I feel sometimes with formulas is yeah, it's cool when you invented one, and it works people like it and when people play future titles they know what to do, the problem is when the Formula is copied to oblivion by other companies and especially the original company in question, there tends to be no more element of surprise in anything because actions are predictable which some people will find drab
She seems to control a lot more imprecisely than The Knight ever did.
But maybe that's just trailer footage.

The Knight was very static in movement
man I can't wait for silksong speedruns
If HK did one thing right, and to clear, it did almost everything right, but a big one was controls.
The Knight controlled VERY precisely and on a dime.
He didn't move a centimeter you didn't tell him too.
It was more a very precise brick
Hornet from trailer footage seems to have that Rockstar effect going on where she keeps going on and on and on even after a button has stopped being pressed.
it might be more precise from what we think
Hornet's moveset is catered to comboing the shit out of things
and also she has the different crests and things so there could possibly be some setups that are more like the knights
more preicse and more of hornets style of fighting with the long dashes and weaves
I just hope it's more than we saw from her as an enemy in HK.
i would think that of course it is
fuck yeah
Personally I want hornet to flip that needle around and use it like a club.
Give us a charm to do that.
thats what its looking like it is right now
You can’t assume how a character controls if you haven’t played them yourself
If Hornet can fly off after striking an enemy there's a fat chance you can immediately enter an input to turn around and strike again, like I said her moveset looks heavily catered to comboing
Well, that's how I see it anyway
she could have crests where her attacks are more careful and precise and other crests where they are more powerful / carefree
Footage though. I'm not gonna assume much of anything, but I will observe what I'm shown - Hornet seems to be alot more aerial than the Knight ever was, even outside of Combat, and moves in the air horizontally more than he ever did. I'm not saying she's the least precise controls in any video game ever, but she certainly looks more floaty than the incredibly precise, do as I say and not a nanometer more, stop on a literal dime Knight.
I really want to ping for oblove, but I can’t
Which is fine....she's clearly going to play differently, I just hope the controls are still tight.
why no
A mind to think is a mind to strategize
I thought you were on do not disturb
well if you go off team cherrys last game, yeah
That is definitely true. Hornet is all about the air combo combat
I was going to respect it
oh, that
no standing and smacking for her
its just the dms
@grave snow got it
different crests could yield different results

That's why I think it's fine if she goes flying because it probably leads into a combo
this crest seems to give the most hk style combat
I really want a LGBTQ right now
Also I'll be real for a minute - if The Knight wasn't dead at the end of HK, I would 100% want him back for Silksong over Hornet.
I'm not a huge fan of when game sequels change the main character or swap up combat styles and controls significantly.
Most of the reason I'll be playing Silksong is because of just how much a grand masterpiece the original HK was, and I have faith Team Cherry, far more than almost any other studio in existence, including AAA ones tbh, can pull this off.
I actually do prefer games keep the same style of combat between sequels.
Except Hornet can backflip behind you and say "no u"
it would be really cool if the crests are customizable to the point of having unique builds with the precision and strength
over hornet? 
So this, changing of literally everything to Hornet doesn't sit right with me.
I’m hungry man
Historically that's not been my cup of tea.
TK is a Schrodinger's cat, alive in some endings which are all canon
I want a lettuce, guacamole, bacon,tomato, and quantum physics sandwich
That was always the plan. Hornet was meant to be a playable dlc character with her own story for HK
then it might just not be for you
That grew into Silksong
Nah, I know what I like. But I still consider it a bad move to change main characters.
Technically it is still downloadable content
still, opinion based but yeah, i understand what you mean
Again, I still look forward too it and I'll still be buying it off GOG and Steam (one for DRM Free, one for Achievements) at launch, but I'm now and always have been very iffy on making Hornet the lead for the game.
all games are dlc (that are downloadable)
Also it's because TK's story is done and Hornet's story is beginning. We should count ourselves lucky we get a sequel, TC have already discussed exploring their other ideas for games Post-SS the fact we get more HK content is a blessing and something actually planned (like tools) and not added 2 months before release (charms) will likely be much better
Not because of anything Hornet herself did, just because I prefer that sequels control pretty much the same as prior games in the series.
Actually this only holds up during the kickstarter, it has been planned as a game since HK development
well we didnt know that
At the time no
But Leth confirmed it quite a while ago, as he suggested SS being a game during the HK development which TC agreed with Leth
It probably would have been a game anyway but Leth Snowballed it early
heya everyone
Honestly I'm more shocked they didn't take the many millions they made off of HK, split it 3 ways, and just flat retired and disappeared to beaches around the world for the next 50 years. If I ever get into game development and strike gold with a super mega hit series, that's what I'd do.
hey mango
yo curly how are ya?
They enjoy making games, That's why they do it
It continually surprises me they even have the motivation to make a sequel off the back of HK's mega success and so few people to split between.
doing well. hbu?
doin good
I'd have 0 motivation to keep working a day in my life.
I'd be the same, I plan to make games, and keep making games, even if I strike gold, because it's what I like to do
You never work a day in your life if you enjoy the work you do
Why make make millions only once?
I mean, how many millions do you need?
they probably enjoyed making the game, like the community they created and wanted to make a deeper story for people to enjoy and get engulfed in
You probably should only bother making millions once.
But that's an entirely different topic lmao.
Are you aware how much it costs to make a high quality game?
TC isn't doing it for the money
have you seen the rate of inflation? at least 4
crest discussion
nvm money discussion
Nah. Feeding the devs costs a lot. stupid fleshy humans with needs and shit
Anyway I'm still looking forward to SS, I just hope it lives up to HK.
hey, going back to crests, i thought this was silksoul mode at first
Based on the Median price of $15 USD and the around 4-6 Million copies of HK sold over all platforms HK has grossed around 45 million to 90 million with the high and low balling before taxes and paying the various platformers their cut, but TC have mentioned they live comfortably but would never "Go buy a Ferrari" as that's not really their interest, they don't want expensive extravagant things they want to make games and for people to play them
"HK was a rushed game made on a shoestring budget. You have no idea how much better SS is"
-australian gametester
its a sequal so
i just hope hornet honours the knight in any way,
I was about to look for that lmao
For the record though, I do think you can save on a lot of development costs when your entire staff is 3 people, your game needs 0 advertising off the back of your last mega hit, you're probably re-using the same equipment to make SS you did to make HK, you're working almost entirely from home, and most of your costs are from already millionaire devs whose biggest expense is probably eating from home.
what if hornet says the word hallownest, in pharloom
I would be shocked if the budget for SS was much more than it cost to make HK.
probably 20
Larkin has to be paid, Leth has to be paid, the playtesters have to be paid, Makoto has to be paid
shrug
seriously. the fact that they made HK with less then 100k in funding is mindboggling.
It really is.
They made a lot of sacrifices for that
It's not as cut and dry as some of you think
also all the orchestra people
True
Silksong has the leftover budget plus the revenue of the original game to make it
SS is 100% going to cost more with more people that need to be paid for their work
only 57k budget 
It went over 60k actually that's why we got CoF they got paypaled money after the Kickstarter for a bit
oh ok
in my head its obvious that the budget would be higher
It will be
I think the revenue for HK was around ~60 million usd
plus they got an indie fund loan thing.
im guessing they would want silksong to be a step-up from hollow knight
Between 45 and 90 million before taxes and paying the platforms
Still a crap ton
Point is though, it's not like they need to pay for a studio, workers, janitors, other staff aside from a few VA's you can probably hire off of Fiver, they're probably using home computers (if very, very powerful computers probably), don't need to pay for advertising at all because the games already mega famous, etc etc.
Their biggest expense probably literally is their individual food budget.
I can't think of anything hardware wise they wouldn't already have from making HK.
speaking of the orchestra i cant wait to see what they’ve done with the ost
You know TC isnt in it for the money cause they never went and made HK into a netflix show
They have a budget for an actual orchestra this time
of course they still need to pay for advertising?
yesh
I’m so happy for live music in game

I really hope they release some in studio recordings
Aside from the official TC members the entire list of Contracted hires is, Leth, Simo, Benji, Graig and the other playtesters, The entire Orchestra, Larkin, Makoto and all the voice actors, (probably missing a few) these people need to be paid for things to actually work
Why would you pay for advertising for a game that's already so famous it has basically the only Discord Server for a single player game that's still active about 5 years after the only game in the franchise launched.
Not even games like God of War or Tomb Raider have communities are strong and as fervently looking forward to the next game as HK.
Of course they aren't taking Millions but it's not cheap to employ people either
Not in this industry
Unironically no they don't need to pay for advertising.
The game needs no advertising.
Silksong is already one of the most famous up and coming games in the world.
The YouTube algorithm does it for them
if they wish to get more buyers and more people playing the game and enjoying the community of course they would need to pay for advertising
Advertising costs probably come from stuff like trailers. Enough people know about the game but plenty want to know when it comes out
Yeah, unironically it does. And other people who are influencers and just really liked HK, or word of mouth, or again, this franchises ludicrously strong community.
They still wouldn’t entirely need to
Kieldor, Leth is the PR/Marketing director, reason you don't see him doing much on this front is because people are already doing his job for him by spreading it like wildfire by word of mouth so he can work on other aspects of his job
no but it would be easier
True
I remember some guy saying that they need to advertise the game more back in the day. and that people were stopping to care about it.
Which is good, but kinda underpins the point that this franchises community word of mouth is so strong that Silksong really doesn't need to be advertised any more than it has been. Many millions of people are already looking forward too it.
Pay me TC!
I really don't feel like any amount of advertising would help SS sell more than it's already basically guaranteed too on launch.
i mean, its a indie game, the community in my eyes is a pretty tight circle. might just be through my eyes but i dont know
Leth could lift a finger and the community would go wild, his mere presence at this point is a Marketing plan
If anything, extended marketing periods might make people a bit upset in the way that they might interpret it as a cash grab
Though, I've chatted with Leth, Chill guy
I've chatted with Simo, I've chatted with Graig, I think I almost chatted with Wilbo
I've just been in the right place at the right time to have a chat with them
I've seen TC members here in this discord randomly but not too often. I think only 6-7 times in the past I've seen a random red name message.
And I mean vocally
I’ve only seen about 2
if simos statement from earlier is true, hes lurking here right now 
Graig is the most common one you'll see around here
simo is always lurking
Then it's Leth
havent seen graig around for a while
And then maybe You'll get a wild Wilbo or Ari fo you're lucky
Hey doesn't Christopher Larkin lurk here sometimes
Prepping Silksong
Or Jack Vine I don't remember which
I dont think so
Well, that is over the last couple years. Despite the "new" sign on my name I'm actually not - it's just a new account. The old was fully deleted after I stopped paying for Nitro and refused to manually leave 95 servers so I could join a new one. I just rejoined the top 30 servers I was most active in and went from there.
or maybe they do. anyone of us could be them
Ok
it takes seconds to leave a server
Why were you in 95 servers
lazy ass 
Why not
I'm in like 30 at most
I’m in 4
15 of them being emote servers
Two are for me and my friends and 2 are for games
9 of them probably being game servers, and then like some private servers
Im in 8. and I think thats too many
I'm in like 20ish but only look at like 15 of then and talk in fewer ones
this is basically the only server im "active" in currently
I cycle between my active servers on a quartly basis based on which community I feel like talking to
same
I wasn't. I was in 194 servers. And my last account was basically as old as Discord itself, more or less off by about 2 months from the time the service started.
Nitro boosts you to 200 servers joinable isntead of 100, but after the rebrand I stopped supporting Discord, so after I lost Nitro I would have had to leave 95 servers manually - which means deciding which 95 servers I could live without manually, and going through each extensively, etc etc - or I could just have the account fully deleted, open a new one under the same name, and just rejoin all the servers I was actively in to begin with.
and thats for you jonnymeboy 
trying to get comfortable in a new server scares me
Despite the whole "it takes seconds" thing, that's not actually true. It's a huge decision and a gut wrencher. And I would've had to do it 95 times to get under the 100 server limit.
I'm active in the HK, Celeste, Cookie run, Slime Rancher discords and the rest I'm active in are private and I think Curly is in one of them
I've actually been in this server under this same name for years now lmao.
I have Nitro because using my favourite emotes everywhere is very nice
👍
3 others apparently
there are records of the name "kieldor" back in 2018
Wild
in this server
I'm shocked those still exist.
I thought all your messages got deleted when your account did. At least server side.
nope
Sad.
they just become sent by "deleted user"
Fun.
I do feel like I remember your pfp. assuming you used the same one before
Your messages only get deleted if you yourself deleted them or if you got banned and they chose to delete all your messages
Yeah I've been recycling the same ones for a few years.
Anyway SS.
SS shit game
I'm just hoping we get a firm release date soon.
With server side Pfp's which I've been asking for, for a while I just use different ones based on where I am, but I do cycle my main one every once ina while
well get it eventually
The firm release date would probably come in Winter
Not shit. But I'm not expecting another HK level masterpiece if I'm honest. If HK was a 11/10, I'm expecting a 8/10 or 9/10 out of SS.
I want to believe we will see it soon™️
Hope so.
Would be nice - Winter is my favourite time of year.
just memin
winter would be great. tbh. lots of time to play
Everyone here likes winter?
I hope it gets release during summer - good time to stay indoors due to the extreme heat.
Winter is a time to be outside at 3 AM walking under the cool black and blue light and that crisp refreshing air.
Summer is a time to be inside 24/7 so you don't die of 115*F Heat stroke.
People have seasonal love ass backwards.
Winter would be nice except for school will probably take up a lot of free time and I can't stay up late playing like I did with HK
I doubt if it's to be ready within 342 days that it'll be as soon as this or next month
sure you can
in summer just have somebody push you around in a wheelbarrow full of ice
I live in a bipolar climate and will stay inside all the time aside for when I got for walks because I'm an introvert, and -40C or +40C both suck or worse so I'm gucci to vibe inside unless I want exercise
yo
How long have you been in this serer Cheesoid
Dry heat is manageable
Yo
how has the summer been for you Pillow?
But humid heat sucks
I think 2 years
heat is cool
Not too bad, dry heat around 20 and 32
cook
Could be worse
heat is cook, cook is jim, ass is jim, ass is heat
damn. we still havent hit 30 yet this summer
I’ve cooked a couple of eggs and I think I even baked a small cake once on the sidewalk
finally somebody mentions our gentleman friend arse James
We had a particularly hot day one day because of a bit of humidity from a lot of rain
I live in a desert
We get no rain 
heat is cook cook is jim a
s is jim, jim is life
that must be delicious 
Hope you live in pudding
heat is cool

which?
I can manage in either extreme climate but I will say, Better to layer up when it's cold and add as many layers as you need than to take off layers and you can only take off so many
Though if it's Wet cold there is no layering up, You will be cold
getting home in the winter with sweat running down your back is annoying.
getting home in the summer with sweat running down your back is annoying.
summer is cool
summer has all the delicious fruits and vegetables tho
warm soup in cold is nice
Summer is fine but if it's above 30 it can suck my gonads
Only cowards eat opposite temperature food contrary to the weather eat Ice cream in the winter like a man!
Ice cream in the winter, hot soup in the summer
its good to be back
eat what you want, when you want
Ice cream in the summer, ice cream in the winter
Ice cream all year round
There is never a bad time for Ice cream
-40 and you want a slurpee. Go for it
chestnut ice cream in the winter
That's the best time for one
funeral
so it doesnt melt imediatly
or baked apple ice cream with cinnamon
true but summer os the best
My American brain just got real confused by this, I should really learn Celsius
I know of places in my city that can give you flat rate no tax 1 dollar fountain drinks and Jamaican patties
what if they are serving it because the persons funeral it is really loved icecream
Hey Stinky -40 is -40 in both measurments
-32 fahreinheit are 0 celsius iirc
-40 in both is the same lmaooo
Freezing in the arctic
0 celsius is 32 fahrenheit
Damn, this is what I mean by I should learn it.
Imagine using a system that looks like it was invented by a drunk donkey
0°C water freezes 100°C water boils (in standard conditions)
the formula to translate celsius to fahrenheit is the only thing I remember from highschool lmao
ez
Exactly, easy and concise
how about an ice cream in 0 kelvin? 
You'd be dead
worth
Everything would be
around -273 c is kinda cold
yeah, like, 0 kelvin... the whole universe would explode
0 kelvin doesn't exist
That moment, when it's Absolute Zero
it's a theoretical value
It exists in theory only because the Universe would explode otherwise
Absolute xero new boss confirmed
yeah we know, thats why we say we would be dead or everything would explode
Absolute Zero is theorised to be so cold it'd freeze time
It's already theorised to freeze atoms
Time is relative after all
nah.... the thing is that with absolute 0 the particles doesnt move at all, and that cannot happen (because of the heisenberg principles)
Our concept of time is, time itself is a force that makes things age and is always moving
yeah uncertainty principle
Imma hop in my space pod and orbit a supermassive black hole for a couple years
Kinda crazy how close we've gotten to absolute zero tho
ss stands for science chat now
are we trying to summon Tess?
See you when Silksong releases



didn't think I would make it this gar

