sk-discussion

[brittle garnet]

tldr is that TC want to make their game as accessible to everyone as possible so they set the price low so that poorer people can also get it

[pine bobcat]

graig started the day one gang

[coarse leaf]

AAA games are priced that way because people are willing to pay for it, theyre also made by incredibly well known publishers and have huge teams. Team cherry has made one game that was a success and is like, 4 People, the average person is not spending 60$ on it

[bleak vessel]

Thank you

[radiant wraith]

Oh this may be misinterpreted, I mean that you're giving me nice news

[hexed crow]

Has graig done anything but troll?

[tawny basalt]

Wait im not a friend then

[coarse leaf]

yes it will

[tawny basalt]

No it won’t

[hexed crow]

Thank goodness my boy simo hasn't succumbed

[uneven vault]

[hexed crow]

If no one got me
I know simo got me

[tawny basalt]

Fuck love

I don’t want love

[bleak vessel]

I think it's very generous of TC to grant us this price but in their perspective I'm getting ripped off

[tawny basalt]

[hexed crow]

If simo succumbs to the day one gang I will cry

[tawny basalt]

He is going to do it

[hexed crow]

No

Not simo

[tawny basalt]

he will

[uncut citrus]

Too bad.

[tawny basalt]

[uncut citrus]

Eheh

[uneven vault]

[tawny basalt]

[hexed crow]

When I saw the guy who first posted the tweet here of silksong day one I expected it to be a false rumour quickly disproven and that the country wouldn't get hyped over it

[tight linden]

The credibility of the leaker allowed for this to become more widespread

[hexed crow]

The man leaked 3 things

[tawny basalt]

How did we get 310 zote chads?

[hexed crow]

How come nothing else from the Xbox showcase has been leaked?

[tight linden]

And? The fact they leaked anything and was right means people are more willing to buy into it

[tawny basalt]

Also simo succumbed

[hexed crow]

NOOOOOOOOO

[tight linden]

I understand this getting taken more seriously than like.. the Leth comment

[tawny basalt]

He is the queen of it

[pastel silo]

Overdose is supposedly gonna be on the showcase...he leaked its name before it was announced

[hexed crow]

Now that's interesting

[bleak vessel]

Will there be another Fallout installation?

[hexed crow]

Gimme a sec imma go cry

[wispy narwhal]

Not anytime soon

[hexed crow]

How could you do this to me simo?

[tawny basalt]

Simo is the queen of all day one logic

[signal crag]

https://twitter.com/_Tom_Henderson_/status/1535389924245049344

Tom Henderson (@_Tom_Henderson_)

Do I fear the Xbox show will get leaked in its entirety? Yes.

Will I leak it? No.

I will talk about the rumblings I'm hearing tomorrow in my stream and that's it.

But IMO, if you want it as a surprise just turn the internet off until the show starts.

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Twitter · Jun 10, 2022, 10:34 PM

[tame widget]

i'm scared

[shy kettle]

rumblings?

[idle scaffold]

The thing is none of those really confirm anything about SS. not even something related to it

[pastel silo]

I feel bad for them to have surprises spoiled but many of us wouldnt even watch the event if not for the leaks so its not purely negative I guess

[velvet sentinel]

ss wont be there so nah

[uneven vault]

yeah but it could be something else?

[velvet sentinel]

hk 3？

[uneven vault]

only posting here cause people are talking about leaks here

[uneven vault]

[idle scaffold]

i got you but people are only talking about the leaks since SS is there.

[uneven vault]

love the tease 🤡

[wispy narwhal]

Tom also replied to snitch day 1 tweet so fingers crossed

[uneven vault]

💀

[lost coyote]

silksong release date announced tomorrow by a tweet from Team Cherry 2 minutes before the Xbox conference

[uneven vault]

[lost coyote]

who am I kidding Team Cherry are never tweeting again

[wispy narwhal]

He just said “when ppl thought u just had Sony info”

[rapid topaz]

There is also that, but it's obviously Fake imo https://twitter.com/MintBlitz/status/1535452683586662406?t=5n6DbnTd_Fn1-ImC0LdFvQ&s=19

Mint Blitz (@MintBlitz)

Seen it circulating on Reddit and in discords, but the Halo Infinite Hell Jumpers Season 3 image is a fake.

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Twitter · Jun 11, 2022, 2:43 AM

[cerulean sable]

I'm done being nice, if they don't hand over Silksong anytime soon, I'm taking my friends and were burning the place to the ground. got it?

[velvet sentinel]

you already said that

[rapid topaz]

The Snitch responded with "not 100% accurate"

[velvet sentinel]

we know you are an arsonist

[cerulean sable]

ok so

[rapid topaz]

Silksong is on this Fake tho

[cerulean sable]

some of it is true then?

[rapid topaz]

Idk it's getting odd af

Let's see tomorrow

[mental summit]

i havent been in this community for a while

[uneven vault]

if it's a fake you can add whatever you want

[mental summit]

is there news on ss?

[uneven vault]

🤡

[mental summit]

ok so nothing

[uneven vault]

yes

[mental summit]

remember when a leak was that it was in feb

[rapid topaz]

I'm just assuming it's Fake and The Snitch is know to have a 100% rate for the previous leaks, they said this supposed Fake was "not 100% accurate"

[mental summit]

well that got old

[wispy narwhal]

Stuff like starfield is pretty much guaranteed

[rapid topaz]

It's just confusing

[cerulean sable]

wasnt starfield delayed till next year tho

[wispy narwhal]

Ya but gotta show the gameplay

[ashen rock]

Inb4 Silksong gets an announcement for XBOX tomorrow and no more. No trailer, no release date, no nothing. Basically no news.

[cerulean sable]

fair

[uneven vault]

more info than we have now

[velvet sentinel]

dont lie dylan

[ashen rock]

It’s something, but nothing big really. It can drag for months or even years. But I hope I’m wrong. Full hype here.

[uneven vault]

people are seriously going insane over 🟢 Day One with a picture of the knight in a clown costume

[rapid topaz]

I'm not going insane over it I'm just riding the train because it's fun

[modest briar]

It's obvious trolling isn't it?

[uneven vault]

https://tenor.com/view/yahav-mother-encore-haha-nice-one-yahav-math-92is-dividable-by23-gif-25701855

[rapid topaz]

[uncut citrus]

[velvet sentinel]

Im not day one gang

[cerulean sable]

graig i swear if another civil war starts because of you we are unironically muting you

[uncut citrus]

My name already has greater purpose

[uneven vault]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hornet-needle-gif-21791304

[velvet sentinel]

we are at 310 btw

[rapid topaz]

Can I ask what is the path of Graig ?

[velvet sentinel]

path of pain

[rapid topaz]

Modded PoP

[bleak scarab]

Math with Hornt

[uneven vault]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hollow-knight-meme-hornet-hornet-hollow-knight-square-root-gif-25850852

[pulsar trout]

dw @iron spear I will unmute you

[velvet sentinel]

6+9 * 6+9 = 69

[marsh ibex]

holy shit banjo

[uncut citrus]

Admin abuse

[rapid topaz]

hi Benji

[pulsar trout]

wassup

[uneven vault]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-news-silksong-news-gif-24830625

[uncut citrus]

Can’t be Jester, that’s already Tonio

[iron spear]

the gang grows more powerful everyday wipes tear

[velvet sentinel]

Why is everyone Day one gang? Even benji

[cerulean sable]

ill have you both on the stockades sooner or later

[marsh ibex]

@uneven vault I kinda didn’t do anything about it prior, but your meme gifs are getting excessive

[rapid topaz]

for fun I guess

[uneven vault]

ight

[marsh ibex]

Our cause is just

[iron spear]

honestly I do not know TC's plans but i believe in the snitch

only leth knows this shit

[cerulean sable]

heres the disclaimer

[uncut citrus]

Hm

[uneven vault]

even team cherry doesn't know team cherry's plans

[signal crag]

mhmhmh

[iron spear]

ive said from the start to believe in the snitch and I am all in lets GOOOOOOOOOO

[cerulean sable]

save that up after the event and theres another shitstorm

[idle scaffold]

Ah so humble. Trying to lower himself to our level

[velvet sentinel]

you are gonna be so dissapointed

[uncut citrus]

When is it always?

[uneven vault]

[iron spear]

he was right about the other stuff

[signal crag]

your ticket, please
for the hype train

[marsh ibex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/985170017920356372/Screenshot_20220611-151345322.jpg

[velvet sentinel]

still, Why would there be silksong on a fucking xbox event

[uncut citrus]

Sir that’s a trans pass-

[true vine]

I'd rather get my diploma from clown college

[jade canopy]

[cerulean sable]

Microsoft*

[spiral fox]

i have come back from the dead to say...

[modest briar]

More surprising

[uneven vault]

[spiral fox]

DAY ONE GANG

[uncut citrus]

Oh right, I was even there when it got pinned, it fricking dumb

[signal crag]

"not 100% accurate" doesn't mean "all of that is wrong lmao"

[uneven vault]

1pm what time zone

[idle scaffold]

Ya know what. To heck with it. Ill go all in the hype

[signal crag]

i think that image was made after his leak
so people are starting to make stuff up

[rapid topaz]

"not 100% accurate" is like one of the most vague sentence I've seen

[uneven vault]

i'll be at work so whatever i'll just see the news after the fact

[cerulean sable]

regardless we are gonna win

thats all that matters

[jade canopy]

I feel like I’m loosing more and more brain cells by just looking at this chat

[tame widget]

not 100% accurate doesn't mean everything is false

[signal crag]

https://twitter.com/_Tom_Henderson_/status/1535389924245049344

Tom Henderson (@_Tom_Henderson_)

Do I fear the Xbox show will get leaked in its entirety? Yes.

Will I leak it? No.

I will talk about the rumblings I'm hearing tomorrow in my stream and that's it.

But IMO, if you want it as a surprise just turn the internet off until the show starts.

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Twitter · Jun 10, 2022, 10:34 PM

[still owl]

The Snitch is a joke

[uneven vault]

we win if we see silksong news

[idle scaffold]

If we get SS news everyone wins. If we don't only the non believers win

[velvet ruin]

No one cared about the "Only Geoff knows" tweet by Leth and now everyone is focusing on "Not 100% accurate"

[idle scaffold]

Yeah... quite funny tbh

[iron spear]

Remember when you were a kid and your parents or whatever told you not to join a gang or listen to gang leaders? Well my response to that is - What a bunch of lameos, join my gang don't be a loser all your life.

[velvet ruin]

This is definitely more likely than SGF

[sullen trail]

Day 1 Gamepass PC, I can actually completely see Microsoft paying the money towards this, would be a big get

[idle scaffold]

Ive heard that if you join the DAY ONE GANG you get free cookies.

[tawny basalt]

A very convincing argument

[tawny basalt]

I don’t like cookies

[pastel silo]

The 100% not accurate thing is obviously not targeted at ss, why would he disprove it right after leaking it , duh

[uneven vault]

[velvet ruin]

Yeah lol

[tawny basalt]

Not gonna join day one gang now

[sullen trail]

yup, he's talking about other things, notice how the fake leak doesn't even have any new games besides already confirmed ones

[uneven vault]

sitting here i realize

[rapid topaz]

I don't care if Silksong for sunday is true just ride the train for fun, who knows the truth anyways

[signal crag]

it just means that image was made up by people after his leak, but there are still some stuff that they got correct, even if just accidentally

[pastel silo]

Many communities aside from ours are speculating about xbox event, we arent the only ones looking up to snitch for info

[sullen trail]

either way this guy has a very good track record thus far, tomorrow we'll see if it holds up

[idle scaffold]

Graig is like the Moss Prophet rn. And we his humble followers

[uneven vault]

yeah i'll just see after work if there's anything i missed

[lament lotus]

heyc

[supple depot]

Wait really?

[signal crag]

i'll give a 25% chance he's actually serious

[tame widget]

good enough

[signal crag]

every single time, wow

[supple depot]

Thats pretty good odds

[idle scaffold]

I don't think that a playtester would know much about the big plans and stuff

[signal crag]

makes sense, i guess

[supple depot]

yeah but its Graig

[idle scaffold]

Its fate. Always was supposed to be june 12th

[signal crag]

graig is occasionally serious, you just have to see the difference

[idle scaffold]

we were just off by a few years

[lost coyote]

the promised day

[rapid topaz]

June 12th is the new February 14th

[pastel silo]

He didnt know about the edge , and when we were speculating about it he joined us as well back then

[signal crag]

remember guys:
EVEN if SS will actually be there, it doesn't have to be something massive

[velvet ruin]

Yeah I'm not expecting a release date

[idle scaffold]

anything new would be considered massive at this point tbh

[lost coyote]

silksong will be on xbox that's it that's the announcement. nothing else

[velvet ruin]

Probably just the announcement for the Xbox release, maybe new footage

[signal crag]

only because the fandom's standards have been lowered to the abyss level

[tame widget]

even lower, to the birthplace level

[lost coyote]

hyping up an xbox event when the game isnt even on xbox right now

[idle scaffold]

yeah. the fandom is playing the promised expanded abyss right now

[uneven vault]

[signal crag]

still a bit pissed we didn't reached that goal
oh well

[lost coyote]

right after this xbox thing is done there's gonna be a nintendo direct announced bet

[pastel silo]

But wouldnt they want to accompany that announcement with as least some sort of new content? Like for such a highly anticipated game it would be quite anticlimactic to just say that and move on

[lost coyote]

this turbulence will never end

[rapid topaz]

I didn't even know about HK when kickstarter was up

How could I have contributed

[lost coyote]

TC are weird they could put the release date on a pizza flier or something and drop them from a helicopter in Mexico and I'd be like "yeah ok"

[uneven vault]

i didn't know about hollowknight till i saw it on sale

[tardy folio]

any hopes for tomorrow or nothing?

[halcyon tangle]

silksong announcement on wholesome direct, just to be really funny cuz nobody expects it there

[idle scaffold]

I found out about HK from that humble bundle demo a few years ago

[rapid topaz]

I saw the trailer for Godmaster expansion and I was "hell yeah that looks cool"

[idle scaffold]

been a fan ever since even though it only had the crossroads.

[lost coyote]

I had the game on my switch for 3 years before playing all the way through it

[idle scaffold]

The day silksong will release will be the day I might pull off my first willing all nigher... Oh god my poor hdd will be so full.

[signal crag]

more hopes than usual, i guess

it's not as dumb as a indie world, at least

[sage glade]

what's tomorrow?

[idle scaffold]

quite credible leaker so a bit of hopium doesnt hurt

[supple depot]

Yeah I don't think I'm sleeping on Silksong release day

[lost coyote]

all these "leaks" were made by me actually sorry guys I do a little trolling

[rapid topaz]

This demo is still accessible and free afaik, kinda funny because there is a backdash so you can dodge ennemies by dashing backwards

[uneven vault]

[idle scaffold]

xbox and bethesda showcase with leaked supposed SS

[signal crag]

https://twitter.com/insider_wtf/status/1535378153429942272

The Snitch (@insider_wtf)

🟢 Day One

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Twitter · Jun 10, 2022, 9:47 PM

[uneven vault]

oh yeah the demo

[sage glade]

i see. what event though? just standalone xbox stuff?

[lost coyote]

I wish they would release the silksong demo from 2019

[idle scaffold]

i think its part of SGF

[shell yacht]

why tho

also what are yall smoking today

[lost coyote]

so I can

play

silksong

[rapid topaz]

Nah I don't want silksong demo I rather keep the surprise until release

[idle plume]

why would they show ss at xbox event

[idle scaffold]

the hopium tank is almost empty ya know...

[supple depot]

I want to test hornets base movement so even if it was just a no-texture blank room with a few platforms that'd be nice

[pastel silo]

Day one game pass release? Not too far fetched considering microsoft is already very interested in hk content

[shell yacht]

so just, wait for the game. releasing the demo is counter productive

[uneven vault]

just plop hornet into hollowknight and realize you can't go anywhere

[sage glade]

even if ss doesn't happen, i'd be happy to get some news on everwild and hellblade 2

[signal crag]

if you think Nintendo is more likely because of some deal, then it's not, TC doesn't really have a deal with Nintendo

[rapid topaz]

hellblade 2 !

[lost coyote]

I'm not talking marketing or business wise or anything I just simply wanna play the demo it's a personal want

[halcyon tangle]

Xbox game showcase: Hey guys, team cherry here, we just want to let you know that silksong will be on xbox 🙂
Pc gaming show: Hey guys, team cherry here, we just want to let you know that silksong will be on pc 🙂
Nintendo direct: Hey guys, team cherry here, we just want to let you know that silksong will be on switch 🙂

[idle plume]

nah yall fr smoking crack 😭

[shell yacht]

they literally do? switch is a launch platform xbox isnt

[hexed crow]

The Amount of times I've seen this posted here

[velvet sentinel]

ses

[uneven vault]

pc gaming show 💀

[pastel silo]

Just check the leaker brah

[idle scaffold]

i don't think that they have a deal with nintendo. I think its just easier for them to release PC and switch cuz of less work

[lost coyote]

maybe they just like the switch

[idle scaffold]

but ive said it before. What if we get a surprise for other console players and they reveal that it will be on all platforms at launch

[velvet sentinel]

so the snitch just posted the hollow knight clown to show that hk fans will be clowns tommorow. And you guys literally are

[rapid topaz]

Sure PC is less work but why Switch would be less ?

[uneven vault]

[uncut citrus]

Hello, Erie

[lost coyote]

but no one expected SS at an xbox conference to begin with

[signal crag]

because it sold better on switch

[idle scaffold]

cuz they wouldnt work on porting to 3 consoles. only to 1

[halcyon tangle]

It people here werent clown they wouldn't be real hollow knight fans

[rapid topaz]

Oh yeah ok, I just didn't understood sorry

[signal crag]

except the fans that expect it on any event, as usual

[rapid topaz]

I thought you said it was easier to port on Switch than PS4/5 OR Xbox

[idle scaffold]

then again are we sure that the clown knight on a bench would be a SS tease?

[halcyon tangle]

I want katana zero dlc and any news on the last night

[shell yacht]

what lmao

[halcyon tangle]

the last night is a game that had a trailer that one time on 2017 E3 and then never had anything again

[signal crag]

it is associated with SS at this point

[lost coyote]

I'm pretty sure TC said they have a good relationship with Nintendo but nothing about a deal

[signal crag]

is there proof of a deal with Nintendo?

[coarse leaf]

yeah, no deal with nintendo

[idle scaffold]

anyway gotta go. have to catch a bus. Let's all remember to use the chat in a somewhat normal manner and not make too much work for mods if SS isn't shown tomorrow. Have fun people

[pastel silo]

Why else would he tweet that among all the other leaks? Like to us Silksong is a big thing but to general mainstream gaming community its not that big of a deal, why clog his credibility with random posts

[hexed crow]

Ok we're Def getting a banwave on Sunday

[rapid topaz]

I was about to ask if the last night got news since 2017 but apparently not

It looks great tho

[hexed crow]

It's pretty insane how people are CONVINCED it's gonna be on the showcase

[shell yacht]

.

[uneven vault]

🤡

[high hedge]

There will always be people convinced about a Silksong appearance

[uncut citrus]

I messed up what time it is, said hello too late

[high hedge]

Not nearly jaded enough

[uncut citrus]

My internal clock broke so I thought we were earlier

[shell yacht]

this is like exactly what i said yesterday
yall are literally insane, taking one crumb of a made up rumor and running with it.
tommorows event could be bethesda exclusive and yall would still believe it

[uncut citrus]

And hello, Beary

[shell yacht]

.

[high hedge]

My favorite was when a Redditor said there would be Silksong news and a weird amount of people believed it

[uncut citrus]

[pastel silo]

"Made up rumour" , I mean all of this guy's posts were big leaks that turned out true , that doesnt equate to just a random rumour to me

[hexed crow]

Yeah and most of them were right before the showcase

[lost coyote]

guys there will be silksong news in 2 hours and 38 minutes source is my ass

[shell yacht]

redditors say funny jokes for upvotes
smoothbrains click upvote without reading
smoothbrain see alot of upvote, automatically agree with post

[hexed crow]

I'm just saying it's fine to be interested but to full on believe that silksong is GONNA be in the showcase is just setting yourself up for dissapontment

[supple depot]

It isn't, Graig made me feel like it'll be less likely than before

[still owl]

We’ve had credible leakers in the past fail us

[lost coyote]

i don't really trust most leaks for SS, Team Cherry have been super quiet and I doubt they would tell anyone except each other about news and events

only way it could be leaked is through a publisher

[shell yacht]

ive seen like 7 "reputable leakers" make up compleye bullshit about SS so far

[pastel silo]

Not this reputable , no

[still owl]

Also why would TC not pick opening date of SGF

[lost coyote]

they're always reputable until they're not

[shell yacht]

you dont get my point
its all bullshit

[hexed crow]

Usually people would've found pre order and marketplace slot in the Microsoft and playstation stores for silksong by now

[still owl]

Why out of all things would TC pick an Xbox conference of all things, because Xbox is at least 3rd biggest audience behind switch and PC

[hexed crow]

An account that is barely over a week old

[ivory ferry]

when will it come out

[shell yacht]

yes

[high hedge]

Isn’t Silksong going to be Switch and Pc exclusive for a year

[still owl]

No

[ivory ferry]

-____-

[high hedge]

Coulda swore there was an exclusivity deal

[still owl]

There isn’t

[signal crag]

no deal

[shell yacht]

its not garunteed timed exclusive but PC/Switch are the launch platform, not xbox

[hexed crow]

Nah Xbox and playstation need different ports and the ontl reason it's coming to switch is cause the switch has the perfect market

[high hedge]

Ahhh

That’s what it was, I see

[pastel silo]

That was said to be the plan 2 years ago, and even that was not confirmed 100%

[tardy folio]

i wonder how much microsoft paid team cherry for this (if it's real)

[still owl]

What, no TC said they didn’t want to say Xbox or PS because they hadn’t made any sorta deals at the time

[uneven vault]

💀

[high hedge]

Ahhh

[hexed crow]

I want silksong on my Xbox more than anyone but believing a rumour completely is just a bad sign

[pastel silo]

The biggest reason for them was the work that would be needed , so they wanted to leave that post launch

[uneven vault]

if it's right before an event it's probably just easy pickings by then

[hexed crow]

Most games at this point would've been leaked on the Microsoft and playstation store

[still owl]

Alright guess I’ll just have to get the source

[uneven vault]

cause i know every nintendo direct leaks like right before the show

[velvet ruin]

The Game Pass release skyrocketed HK's popularity though

[true vine]

cat

[hexed crow]

I'm not saying it's impossible for silksong to be on the showcase
I want it there
But you guys are setting yourself up for dissapontment

[shell yacht]

its not going to be there

[signal crag]

i mean, we are just discussing it, that's all

[still owl]

Don’t be surprised if this leak is true, it’s like 5 seconds of SS footage we’ve seen

[supple depot]

Um so it seems Geoff Keighly follows the leaker on twitter?

[still owl]

Something like “coming soon”

[idle plume]

ok and

[uneven vault]

we've seen a decent amount of footage of silksong actually

[idle plume]

lul

[signal crag]

"for real this time"
"maybe"

[still owl]

You’re missing the point

[tardy folio]

yeah i'm not expecting a release date

[shell yacht]

completely fucking ignore twitter, yall misread every game event tweet like its a secret fucking code but its not, its unrelated

[pastel silo]

I agree that things have been misread a lot before but this is not the same

[rapid topaz]

If that's related to Xbox I think that'd be just "hey it's coming to Xbox consoles too" and that's it

[uneven vault]

🤡

[shell yacht]

yes this is another wannabe leaker making shit up

[pastel silo]

Did you even bother to check what has he leaked already?

[shell yacht]

samus hunter, nvidia, that one pokemon guy. all complete bs

i dont care

[upbeat osprey]

dude leaked things you literally can’t guess

[pastel silo]

Yea then why are you making those statements if you dont even know

[shell yacht]

reputable leaker is not exactly a trustable thing

[idle plume]

hanles if ur right dm me and i will send u 20$

then we can both preorder

[shell yacht]

[uneven vault]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

what he has leaked before doesn't exactly matter

[velvet ruin]

I just hope there's new footage to see how gorgeous Silksong looks now

[sly pilot]

It’s probably nothing in all likelihood

[coarse leaf]

[radiant wraith]

I'm just saying this is not worth discussing, like, we'll learn in like 2 days

[hexed crow]

We're just saying to not believe it that much cause you're gonna be crushed if it's not there

[pastel silo]

Guy leaks the whole sony state of play , name of the kojima's unannounced game , tlou remake with a precise date - wannabe leaker btw

[hexed crow]

Source: experience

[rapid topaz]

that obviously doesn't mean it's true but It's just curious bc The Snitch is a reputed leaker. I'm not """going crazy""" over it, this could also be a big troll for the HK fanbase and even more BECAUSE people trust them

[radiant wraith]

What's there to gain from discussing if it will be there or not?

[uneven vault]

i've seen "reputable leakers" fall off the deep end all the time

[still owl]

People haven’t been here for 2 days

[hexed crow]

Tom warren and Tom Henderson very reputable leakers have been wrong so many times

[radiant wraith]

We will learn in 2 days

[hazy summit]

Hi guys, did Silksong come out in?

[rapid topaz]

Also this is a very wise statement, you're right

[still owl]

one day tho

[radiant wraith]

Etimo! Have you noticed how well ESA soundtrack fits the game?

[coarse leaf]

The Snitch hasn't been wrong so far

[sly pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/736153071218065508/940539366030327848/IMG_8076.png

[hexed crow]

Yeah and at one point neither were Tom Henderson and warren

[sly pilot]

Silksong leaked release date (real)

[supple depot]

I don't want to get any hype going but I do indeed have my own leak to share:

[radiant wraith]

It's insane, it's like the composer found the exact combination of sounds to fit the game the best

[uneven vault]

omg guys

[shell yacht]

reputable leaker is not a job qualification
its not even something with good reputation
its a person breaking NDAs to get 15 minutes of fame and hoping they arent caught
theres nothing trustworthy about a "reputable leaker" and you should stop acting like their word neans anything

[hazy summit]

I had a dream where The Snitch was right

[uneven vault]

tommorow lmao

[hexed crow]

And it'll probably stay that way

[supple depot]

Steam API couldnt be wrong

[tardy folio]

maybe he leaks the whole xbox script today like he did with playstation state of play, so... let's see

[coarse leaf]

and y'all should stop telling ppl how to live their lives

[rapid topaz]

Temple theme my beloved ! This reminds me of Celeste temple of mirrors B side theme, it's so chill yet so mysterious and dark

[shell yacht]

[blazing loom]

i'm gonna watch the microsoft conference because I hope they'll show some colorful games after all those shooting space games of the summer fest. If there's Silksong news i'm gonna be happy c:

[charred pulsar]

Hello chat, I have good news to share

[radiant wraith]

Yeah it's great

[coarse leaf]

day two?

[shell yacht]

oh hell

[still owl]

Slow mode being increased?

[hexed crow]

How could you betray me simo?

[tribal merlin]

the twitter account is barely over 1 month old

[shell yacht]

server deletion

[charred pulsar]

I saw this tonight

[shell yacht]

simo wtf

[coarse leaf]

no silksong there

[idle plume]

what will this do to the economy

[hexed crow]

A little Over one week

[still owl]

Amongus wearing a leotard in that I stg

[olive bobcat]

This Xbox event is gonna be terrible for the trout economy

[heady iron]

bruh that looks like a womb tattoo

[hexed crow]

Since the first tweet

[high hedge]

Release him

[hazy summit]

I also had a dream where The Earth was NOT destroyed

[hazy summit]

Crat

||BOOO||

[hexed crow]

Pog

[tribal merlin]

yeah so people can stop pretending this guy has a years long streak of correct leaks

[radiant wraith]

If I had a penny for every jazzy temple theme I've heard...

[idle plume]

real

[hexed crow]

And this is how you ruin the showcase for other people who came for different games

[idle plume]

kira yoshikage

[radiant wraith]

You think those eyes staring from the dark are scary?

[olive bobcat]

LittleBigPlanet Temples theme

[pastel silo]

Why is it relevant how old the account is, all that matters is that he is currently on a big leaking spree of which all leaks turned out correct , credible leakers never last long because their accounts are usually tracked down

[shell yacht]

you cant kill me if i mute you for copypasta

[hazy summit]

I invite you to some pizzas

[radiant wraith]

You are not the only one whose eyes stare out from the abyss

Look at my pfp. Scary, right?

[rapid topaz]

Dark being scary is just our interpretation, it could be jazzy too !

[still owl]

What even is your pfp ian

[radiant wraith]

You don't wanna see it when it's angry

[hexed crow]

How long have you been on this server?

[hazy summit]

||👁️👁️||

[hexed crow]

I first played HK last year and during the next Nintendo direct back then I was convinced silksong was gonna be there
And it just never came and my hopes were crushed

[radiant wraith]

True enough

[still owl]

Also why should I believe a leaker with the name “the snitch” wew

[radiant wraith]

I dare not

Tell yourself that

[pastel silo]

But what was the basis for your hopes? This time we have at least some solid basis

[radiant wraith]

It's recomforting

[hazy summit]

I can be scary too

[radiant wraith]

Wtf does that even mean

[hazy summit]

Look

||👁️👁️||

[shell yacht]

||𓁹‿𓁹||

[hexed crow]

There have been many leaks throughout the years

[hexed crow]

||𓁹‿𓁹||

[radiant wraith]

[rapid topaz]

My pfp is a goddess of the sun they can burn the earth at any time, isn't that scary ?

[radiant wraith]

Instant annihilation is not a scary concept, my dear

[hexed crow]

It's a recreation I believe

[rapid topaz]

scary dog perhaps

[hexed crow]

Not the actual thing

[shell yacht]

you have less than a basis. you have one rando on the internet saying yes, just like every day in this channel

[rapid topaz]

Nah it's a cute dog I lied

[radiant wraith]

We will find out in one day

[hexed crow]

Aight 29 hours and we know

[rapid topaz]

For me it is, knowing at any time everything ends is stressful. || just as life ||

[hexed crow]

Either way the showcase gonna be amazing with or without silksong

[radiant wraith]

I wasn't even talking about that...

[radiant wraith]

It's not like I'll live to be sad about it

[rapid topaz]

True true

[pale mica]

"silksong will be announced in august along with Hornet's OF account" -Team app... i mean Team Cherry

[hexed crow]

Actually confirmed

[pale mica]

ye 100%

[radiant wraith]

Like, if I died right now, instantly, I'd literally feel no sorrow about it, not for a single second

[pastel silo]

Again, if you don't bother to check the guy's history then your remarks on him are irrelevant

[pale mica]

by Ahri gibbydaughter himself

[radiant wraith]

I mean, it would suck, but I wouldn't feel like it sucked

[hexed crow]

A very reputable leaker yes

[pale mica]

nah lead dev ahri gibbydaughter

[rapid topaz]

You're right I'm just too much attached to life

[hexed crow]

Yes ahri makes the game and leaks it obviously

[rapid topaz]

I need to finish ESA first

[shell yacht]

history of a leaker is irrelevant

[pale mica]

not a leak he old me when i dm'd him I'm surprised none of you tried it tbh

[hexed crow]

https://tenor.com/view/pirómano-meme-jeje-odio-bomberos-gif-15722930

[hexed crow]

The snitch rn

[hexed crow]

Yes I believe you 100%

[radiant wraith]

That's nice priorities

[pale mica]

112% thats how percentages work in the hk universe

[radiant wraith]

ESA is not the best game ever

[hexed crow]

Oh yes sorry I believe you 112%

[radiant wraith]

But it's absolutely a very inspiring one

[rapid topaz]

Game made by Hempuli called Environmental Station Alpha and it's a banger

[coarse leaf]

eollow snight ailksong

[pale mica]

ty im subbing to the OF tbh hornet got that voidussy

[rapid topaz]

Metroid-ish style with multiple layers

[radiant wraith]

Like an onion!

[tardy kayak]

[hexed crow]

I hope we get a zote OF collab

[dusk badger]

onions make me cry

[pale mica]

all 57 precepts on hornet at once

[hexed crow]

"if your enemy is stronger than you, simply use more strength"

[tardy kayak]

my dad make me cry

[dusk badger]

you wanna fight?

[tribal merlin]

plot twist: The Snitch is actually Geoff Keighley

[heady iron]

subscribe to radiance vtuber tier 3 instead

[pale mica]

so wise

[rapid topaz]

Imagine Hollow Knight but when you do the 100% there is still 200% more completion after

That's ESA

It never ends

[tardy kayak]

esa

[radiant wraith]

Etimo there's a tip I should have given you at the start of your playthrough

Well, I'll tell you now

Try to remember the rooms you went through

If they have unique characteristics

[rapid topaz]

I have seen pretty weird spots in some rooms, and rooms with seemingly nothing to do in so I guess I should remember them

I don't remember of everything the map is big though

[radiant wraith]

That's fine

[rapid topaz]

You know I'm like the kind of person who shoots at every single walls to see if there's a breakable wall

That's how I found Path of Pain

[radiant wraith]

I wish games didn't do that...

It absolutely sucks

[rapid topaz]

Depends...

[radiant wraith]

Yeah, hot take

[rapid topaz]

I mean

[radiant wraith]

Making you shoot at every single wall sucks

[rapid topaz]

If there is ZERO clues it sucks but sometimes you can guess them if you watch attentively

[radiant wraith]

I think ESA does this well enough though, so that's fine

[shell yacht]

or just smack every wall ggez

[radiant wraith]

This is fine, but hidden rooms with no indication suck

[rapid topaz]

I do that but I get bored quickly

[radiant wraith]

I'm very strict about immersion and pacing

[silver oak]

The only one that has zero visual indication is PoP iirc

[radiant wraith]

Pacing is heavily affected by the player smacking every wall before proceeding with exploration

[rapid topaz]

Also how the hell can you find eternal ordeal

I swear it's impossible if you don't spend your life smashing walls and ceilings

[coarse leaf]

eternal ordeal

[silver oak]

TC hid stuff like that on purpose I think

[radiant wraith]

It was probably meant to be a thing that spreads around through the community

[heady iron]

can't wait to datamine silksong and spoil every single surprise for myself

[radiant wraith]

That's why it was so hidden

[rapid topaz]

I'm sure silksong will have a lot of them too

[coarse leaf]

not doing that is a skill issue

[rapid topaz]

I Hope they're reasonable

[wispy stream]

did someone hack seths mind

[heady iron]

finna teleport to the final boss room

[placid ether]

I think Hornet's room, White Defender, Path of Pain and Eternal Ordeal are hidden secrets

[wispy stream]

whats happening i dont et it

[radiant wraith]

White Defender is gross

Like, how hidden it is

[placid ether]

White Defender has no visual clue

[radiant wraith]

It's pretty bad imo

Just bad

[heady iron]

expecting someone who went to school for ux design to understand game design

[rapid topaz]

White defender is hidden and it's rather an important stuff too. A whole new boss isn't just a "little secret" to me

They give a lot of essences too

You could say the same for PoP but It's optional

[pastel silo]

I agree that the floor should have some cracks at least

[placid ether]

Yeah, I think White Defender can't be found on a normal playtrough and it's main game content

[radiant wraith]

It's not a little thing

The worst thing is that it teaches the wrong lesson to the player

[uncut citrus]

Seth mentionned.

[hexed crow]

How the hell did anyone ever find white defender?

[radiant wraith]

If there's a breakable floor without cracks...

[placid ether]

Is the Hive entrance cracked?

[radiant wraith]

Maybe there's other floors like this?

[rapid topaz]

Yes (for the hive)

[hexed crow]

This boss is the one in most excited to fight for some reason

[placid ether]

I always open it by mistake with a spell

[hexed crow]

Seems very agressive for some reason

[radiant wraith]

So why don't I go around all of Hallownest using Descending Dark?

Me doesn't like

[pastel silo]

Thats why I dont like invisible walls in DS, but that one has the messaging system at least

[placid ether]

I would honestly rather if they made the ground breakable with visual clues (shaking) after getting all dreamers and being able to fight him

[radiant wraith]

If there's clues to it it's fine

[pastel silo]

But for HK I expect hidden walls to be findable just by close observeration, either of sound or visuals

[placid ether]

It would still be hidden

[radiant wraith]

Visual clues

[tribal merlin]

in many 2d games hidden walls are not that hard to spot once you know what to look for

problem is you actually have to find at least one

[rapid topaz]

I think a fair and cool secret place is like the Essence tree in the Shaman area (where vengeful spirit is) because it's a clear visual cue, there is light coming from the ceiling and all, I think players saw them the first time and were curious. So I just came back with double jump and boom, secret

[shell yacht]

wait you guys dont want hidden walls like that batman secret?

[pastel silo]

Or when you hear a grub sound coming from the wall

[rapid topaz]

Yeah

[tribal merlin]

hidden walls are fine, I like the feeling of paranoia they instill

[placid ether]

Can you hear White Defender snoaring or something? That would make it more fair

[tribal merlin]

like "fuck how many of those have I missed yet"

[languid bluff]

So what do we think of the new rumor about Silksong going to be at yet another games event? Newest rumor is it'll be a Day 1 Games Pass game and will show at the Xbox event I think this weekend. I remain hugely skeptical.

[heady iron]

imagine a hidden wall that didn't even make a cracking sound when you hit it

[hexed crow]

No

We already had this discussion

[trim estuary]

No

There will be no silksong news at the Xbox event

[tribal merlin]

I mean just look at the tweet. It shows a HK clown sitting on a bench

[shell yacht]

or that doesnt open with c4
but does with 3 things of c4

[shell yacht]

complete bullshit again

[languid bluff]

That's my reckoning of it too.

[placid ether]

Don't listen to them, we are all hyped for tomorrow

[pastel silo]

Since the state of play leak, his style of leaking became more ambiguous , but it's clear what he conveys there, that clown image is quite representative for SS fans and day one game pass makes no sense for hk as its already included

Would be weird to suddenly break his leaking spree with a random troll post

[shell yacht]

sure

[serene chasm]

I can't wait to see all the sadness tomorrow

[shell yacht]

ikr

[pastel silo]

Of those who made bold statements that it defo wont be there :)

[trim estuary]

It would be funny though

[serene chasm]

I would troll the shit out of us

[shell yacht]

like the uh, samus hacker had this one kid in chat that wouldnt back down about them being reputable etc
havent seen them since

[trim estuary]

Same

[shell yacht]

ive never been wrong before wheres my backers

have faith in my track record of denials

[still owl]

hello

[rapid topaz]

being a leaker is OP though you can have all the numbers of lottery

[hollow terrace]

besides the whole legal issues behind being a leaker

[opaque sigil]

yeah, the thing about WD and PoP is that in those instances there isn't an indicator.

and EO

[rapid topaz]

Especially Eternal Ordeal imo because you have to do a weird Cdash > Double jump move then hit the ceiling

it's not intuitive at all

[opaque sigil]

Although I don't think the intent was to be easy to find, iirc there was something about TC trying to emulate the weird game rumor thing

[rapid topaz]

PoP is "just" a wall but it's randomly on the way up

hard aswell I admit

[analog edge]

https://xboxshowcasecountdown.com/ Countdown till silken song

[opaque sigil]

SS may also have some weird obscure things that aren't intended to be reasonably findable by everybody

[radiant wraith]

I thought of that too

[cunning geode]

We have a countdown in the pinned messages

well, more like a date

[radiant wraith]

They want some things to spread outside of the game itself

Like a community thing

[opaque sigil]

yeah, that's probably what they intended with PoP, EO, and WD imo

[rapid topaz]

I'm not like "It's a bad thing" as long as it's not a mandatory or important part for the game, if it's a Joke or a Lore thing it's fine

[serene chasm]

TC wants us to talk to people. The bastards

[rapid topaz]

I didn't said Lore isn't important but jk

[shell yacht]

cant wait for the secret door that only opens when you play the song of storms on Hornets needle

[opaque sigil]

None of the hidden stuff in HK was important, PoP and EO have no significant rewards, and WD is available in godhome whether or not you find it

[fiery coral]

I love that lore things are being put in the same basket as jokes

[radiant wraith]

But WD is worse than the others by far

[rapid topaz]

That's not what I meant !

[trim estuary]

Yeah if you get caught the Nintendo ninjas will torture you to find your source

[opaque sigil]

It's less interesting to be sure

ig WD gives you essence but there are plenty of other sources

[spice plume]

I saw a screenshot of mossbag’s twitter a few hours ago but I’m pretty sure it’s a troll or it’s fake. Something about a leak. Did mossbag actually tweet anything of substance out?

[radiant wraith]

WD teaches the player that there may be breakable floors where they are not indicated, which might lead to a player using Descending Dark everywhere they go to check for secrets

[trim estuary]

What is a WD

[spice plume]

Wdym “probably not”?

[opaque sigil]

[shell yacht]

the leak is just as fake as always, whether or not mossbag said anything is ????

[opaque sigil]

If somebody stumbles across WD randomly they probably are already doing that

[radiant wraith]

I admire your patience Powdered

[rapid topaz]

In the context of Godhome update sure, but in the context of discovering the Hidden Dreams update it can be frustrating I guess

[spice plume]

hm alright. I hate being a nuisance to y’all but stuff like this is important

[opaque sigil]

that's fair

[rapid topaz]

Because you could miss WD entirely

[radiant wraith]

Better to not confirm this I think

[trim estuary]

What is a WD

[shell yacht]

what

[opaque sigil]

There's not really a way to actively dissuade the behavior though

[serene chasm]

White defender

[radiant wraith]

To have this discussion about the validity of this leak so many times

[radiant wraith]

I guess not

[trim estuary]

Oh

[opaque sigil]

If a player is already using ddark to look for hidden stuff, then idk if they would be inclined to stop regardless of if it pays off once

[shell yacht]

no leak hasbeen real yet, no reason for this one to be.
also mossbag is a comentator at best on this scenario so, he knows what you do

[rapid topaz]

Your pfp but white

[spice plume]

Somebody should make a channel in the discord where the mods comment on “leaks” and “news”. That way ppl not up to speed can just look and see the verdict of the community.

[trim estuary]

No Mossbag has insider information

[radiant wraith]

But what if the player didn't do this already and learns about White Defender from the community?

[shell yacht]

or we could not make a fake news channel
fake news literally against tos

[opaque sigil]

then if they're already interfacing with the internet they could ask if there are other perfectly hidden things

[rapid topaz]

it's a moss bag but the moss hide the truth withing the bag

theory ^ ||jk||

[opaque sigil]

Or just spam ddark if they want, some people don't mind smacking walls on the off chance that something's there, even if the odds are slim

[radiant wraith]

I personally think it's pretty bad for the experience of exploration

It becomes a chore

[cunning geode]

Are you suggesting a staff mystery science theater channel

[spice plume]

I don’t see it that way. I see it as a “debunking channel” not a “fake news channel”. I think it could be helpful, but it’s not that necessary anyways.

[radiant wraith]

Having to hit everything in every room before moving on

[fiery coral]

Mods have no more information than you do, and our insight is no more valuable than the rest, no matter how much confidence some of us may present our takes with

[shell yacht]

everyone but joker gets secrets, unique just has amnesia

[rapid topaz]

Not gonna lie, there is a relic in deepnest that is incredibly well hidden too.

I'm not even sure a lot have found it yet

[spice plume]

That’s true. Everyone here is just a fan with as little knowledge as the other guy.

[spice plume]

Where and what.

[trim estuary]

Whether the leak is real or not either way it’s gonna be funny

[opaque sigil]

Well the relics are good for that purpose since there's really no sweat if you miss them, there's not much to see.

[shell yacht]

am i the only one that used kingsoul to ddark and shreik entire game

[hollow terrace]

YOU FOOL, imagine the power we can garner if we did it

[shell yacht]

kingsoul best charm

[spice plume]

Also what is all this “[DAY ONE GANG]” stuff?

[opaque sigil]

imo relics are a good way to reward diligent attention to the environment because not getting them doesn't really hurt a player

[shell yacht]

graig is crazy

[tribal merlin]

it's some clown shit like usual

[spice plume]

Both of you, elaborate.

[trim estuary]

So if Benji is the queen and Simo is the jester what does that make Graig

[opaque sigil]

some leaker, not much to say really

[shell yacht]

a graig joke idk what else to say

graig is the troll in the dungeon

[spice plume]

hm. Ig it’s nothing them

[rapid topaz]

red circle is entrance, the whole place in the right is hidden

[cunning geode]

Oh yeah that one

[rapid topaz]

good thing randos exists and people told me this one

[opaque sigil]

I think deepnest breakable walls are like especially hard to see because it's so dark

[rapid topaz]

Yeah I'm not saying it's that important but I just find amusing there is a relic very hidden like this

[cunning geode]

TC needs to put big red YouTube clickbait arrows pointing to secrets

[opaque sigil]

SS should have objective markers for every single pickup

[uneven vault]

skyrim song

[rapid topaz]

For fun I guess, I don't really care

[cunning geode]

I’ve seen some people say they want Silksong to tell you when you’ve “completed” an area or collected every item in that area… and I’ve told them that would ruin the exploration

[spice plume]

Actually I have an idea. Maybe in pharloom we could find a tabloid news station/building and inside is a collection of all the fake leaks over the years. Next to it could be some Easter eggs like sacrifice mosabag signs and maybe even some clown makeup.

[cunning geode]

but hey, maybe some people wouldn’t mind that

[pastel silo]

mainly it would make the world feel artificial

[cunning geode]

Great idea. I’ll phone Leth to relay this

[hollow terrace]

they should do that with one item but now you always have a sense of dread of waiting for a follow up gotcha moment

[spice plume]

Cmon it would be funny

[tidal onyx]

I didn't know wombats could use phones.

[uneven vault]

[tidal onyx]

I thought they were more into hiding their head in a hole while sticking their bony bum out

[opaque sigil]

idk if it would ruin the exploration but it would certainly hamper the room for variety in experience

[cunning geode]

I wanted to react with “BINGO” but my mobile gave up

[fiery coral]

to be fair Ori 2 had percentage completion for every area, I didn't mind at all

[opaque sigil]

Also could limit replay value

[cunning geode]

Yeah but you like Elden Ring

[spice plume]

Yes it would

[opaque sigil]

part of the cool thing about replaying HK was finding stuff you didn't know existed the first time through

[hollow terrace]

"it almosts feels like... someone trying to SELL ME SOMETHING"-hornet from silksong

[charred pulsar]

and Portal 2

[fiery coral]

PORTAL 2 BEST GAME

[spice plume]

Yeah. I think a percentage indicator would ruin it for me personally, but idk about anyone else

[uneven vault]

options

[opaque sigil]

Well HK does have a percentage indicator but it doesn't tell you where to go to get more, you just have to look on your map for places you haven't been and/or pay attention to paths you couldn't take before

[rapid topaz]

Also I think damage dealt popping off enemies like other games do, won't fit in silksong

[cunning geode]

Yeah no I meant people wanted specifics for areas as they explored them

[opaque sigil]

ig that's another way the percentage could be irritating, you probably can't get everything your first time there, so seeing that you haven't "completed" the area could discourage people from actually progressing

[cunning geode]

yup

[rapid topaz]

I find amusing that in HK the % completed pops up with an ""ability""

[cunning geode]

also if you went through an area and were like “hmmm yes I think I got everything” then checked and you’re only like 30% you’re gonna spoil yourself a bit aren’t you

[trim estuary]

Maybe after you beat the game

[rapid topaz]

World Sense*

[fiery coral]

That'd work yeah

[opaque sigil]

That's approximately what HK did, but it didn't specify areas

I will acknowledge that the % completion in HK wasn't super useful in terms of informing decisions of where to go and what to do, it really only provides useful information on whether you're totally done or not (and even then the 112% max obscures that a bit )

[cunning geode]

Today is a zote kind of day

[fiery coral]

[trim estuary]

We’re Zotin’ out

[cunning geode]

Good luck

[rapid topaz]

If you knows a bit about video games completion I suppose you can guess that Bosses and Charms counts (or just simply test it) but there is some more obscure stuff to do like.... ascending the seer?

[uncut citrus]

what zote?
?
?
?
?
?
?
and so on
theres just way too many zotes

[cunning geode]

All zotes

[rapid topaz]

it doesn't even give you an item or anything

[trim estuary]

[fiery coral]

[trim estuary]

True

[uncut citrus]

:gote:

[fiery coral]

We need zotewall

[trim estuary]

zube? cote?

[uncut citrus]

:botefleet:

[fiery coral]

Unfortunately I have no clue who the original creator was

[trim estuary]

CUTE

[opaque sigil]

The HK completion percentage also works weirdly in that not everything that would presumably count actually does

[fiery coral]

Zotecube

[uncut citrus]

:zotewall:

[fiery coral]

[uncut citrus]

zote cube is so Cute i cant-

[cunning geode]

Isn’t there an online helper with like, a “full” game percentage that does include everything? That’s kind of neat that people made that

[dusty nimbus]

[cunning geode]

Nah it’s just if you can enter the Black Egg

[fiery coral]

Until you reach him yeah

[fiery coral]

There is, yep

[rapid topaz]

IIRC colloseum 3 is useless if you go for 100%, in 112% there is the God Tamer. I found it weird 'cause I thought it was a mandatory stuff

[cunning geode]

You don’t need to even fight THK to get world sense

[opaque sigil]

My guess is that TC kinda haphazardly assigned things to percentages just trying to get to an even 100% (pre-update) so hopefully it's a little more intuitive in SS, although ig I don't really have strong feelings about that since I don't use it much

[cunning geode]

200%

[tired cave]

No you need Colo to get 112

[opaque sigil]

I don't think god tamer gives %, it's the trial that does

[uncut citrus]

i have way too many zotes

still not enough

[tired cave]

I just beat Colo 3 I need 2 more charms but one is in Deepnest and the other is grubberfly : there are grubs in Deepnest (I'm arachnophobic)

[pastel silo]

the only wish I have is that if they are gonna implement boss rushes that they get inspiration from Sekiro instead of creating a secluded area for it

[uncut citrus]

theres also alot of zote emotes which doesnt contain the word "zote", those arent shown there but still count

like :etoZ:

[rapid topaz]

My biggest disappointment is when I learned that essence trees doesn't counted, and boss essences are sufficient to get everything, so trees are technically useless. It's a good and weird thing at the same time, because you don't have to do them for 100% but in your first playthrough I think it's likely that you're thinking they're are mandatory

So you ""loose"" time doing them, some can be quite long too

[opaque sigil]

yeah, if each orb gave multiple essence they would have more of a point

[tired cave]

The spirals gave mossbag a headache

[cunning geode]

time to grind

[silver oak]

time to enable hacks

[rapid topaz]

Simple comparison :
It takes about 2 to 4 trees to get 100 essences (depends of the locations)
It takes only Xero to kill to get 100 essence.

[tired cave]

Also this is Silksong discussion

We're talking about HK here

[rapid topaz]

4 trees can be boring imo

[opaque sigil]

spirit's glade

[cunning geode]

myth

[silver oak]

HK doesn't exist

[opaque sigil]

the QG root at least has some non-trivial platforming

[tired cave]

I gave the maximum money to Milibelle, then multiplied by 1.5×

MONEY

[cunning geode]

Originally this conversation was about how Silksong would handle percentage completion

[tired cave]

Oh

I wasn't there at the beginning sorry

[cunning geode]

It’s ok that’s why I explained

[uncut citrus]

you dont have to be sorry, conversation evolves
or devolves

[rapid topaz]

Which one would you choose, in all honesty?

[opaque sigil]

yeah if there's significantly more content then just using the HK system of attributing percentages to things might not be super viable, although ig they could break it up into like half percents

[cunning geode]

Uh oh

[uncut citrus]

Xero

[cunning geode]

decimals

[opaque sigil]

only reason I've ever done whispering roots is if I just need a few essence to hit a milestone, which is pretty rare, or if I stumble across one and am not in a hurry and just do it for the sake of doing it

It can be sorta enjoyable to collect the orbs if I'm in that mood but that's not super common

[uncut citrus]

i mean yeah if each tool and abilities and bosses makes a percentage, silksong could easily go over 100%..

maybe quests too or something

[rapid topaz]

Unironically there is some uses in some speedruns category too, like Marmu is kind of "long" to get and only gives 100, so it's been found that it was faster to just go for 2 specific trees

[tribal merlin]

each time you die in SS you lose 5% completion

[opaque sigil]

not much of a point, there's some dream nail dialogue you can get but that's it

[opaque sigil]

that's fair ig, also for low% probably

[rapid topaz]

Yeah I'm like that too sometimes, it's chill

[cunning geode]

Orb collection time

[rapid topaz]

it's used when you need to rush for the King Soul and nothing else, like All Charms

people don't go for marmu sometimes

[opaque sigil]

ik that DNM low% is like a 40 hour grind or something to get essence from drops so the roots probably help a bit there

[tribal merlin]

kill dem all
and come back alone

[uncut citrus]

they are already dead

[cunning geode]

You know what you should really kill

[uncut citrus]

STOP IT PARTICK HES ALREADY DEAD

[opaque sigil]

it seems like some aspects of the essence "currency" are geared towards it being useful in small quantities, like spirits granting only one and the whispering roots granting only small amounts, as well as the random drops, but that isn't really the case

[tribal merlin]

yeah it's a vidya game being dead hasn't prevented any character from being killed again

[trim estuary]

A

[cunning geode]

six billion

[uncut citrus]

demons

[dark vector]

Why would anyone kill Six Billion Demons

[uncut citrus]

why not

[opaque sigil]

I do wonder whether the shell shard economy will really change over the course of a Silksong playthrough

[rapid topaz]

I think random drops are just here to assure you can use Dream gate infinitely

[dark vector]

That’s almost the entire population of hell earth
Imagine the time consumption

[dusty nimbus]

Peas

[rapid topaz]

Or like, a lot of times

[toxic sable]

do we know anything about silksong at this point?

[uncut citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410556297046523905/729818271095717990/SPOILER_scene1.gif

[dark vector]

Not really

[brittle garnet]

Yes!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10wyWpWJAtbRUSrOstN4e1l09mtx-vrjU_IiqdB2QGyc

[toxic sable]

i find the lack of recent news disturbing

[opaque sigil]

Like will tools get more expensive and will enemies drop more shards, or will it stay consistent. ig when you get crests with multiple red slots expenses will probably increase

[trim estuary]

I find your lack of faith disturbing

[dark vector]

Some speculate it will come out before 2023 due to Crosworn coming out “after silksong” in 2023

[brittle garnet]

I think it will come out this year

probably within a couple months

[dark vector]

sees glowing womb
shudders out of horror

[toxic sable]

my name is not faith, deal with it /s

[trim estuary]

I find your lack of mirror disturbing

[cunning geode]

you wouldn’t understand

[pastel silo]

omg can't wait for that combat

[dark vector]

I guess I know of 2 “people” who would kill six billion demons

Glowing womb is actually pretty good if you are bad at spell casting and don’t plan on healing, then it’s a semi-steady source of nice damage

[opaque sigil]

sure, if you have nothing better to do with two notches

[dark vector]

Also
Spring song

[coarse leaf]

the damage is terrible

atrocious

[dark vector]

It’s still damage

[opaque sigil]

it's two damage per second, it's not very much

[coarse leaf]

???

[split tide]

Womb does tiny damage yeah

[trim estuary]

Or you could use weaversong

[coarse leaf]

so everyone should use dcrest now because "its still damage"

[split tide]

It’s only noticeable pre-false knight

[uneven vault]

nothing

[opaque sigil]

defender's crest does comparable damage for a lower cost

[dark vector]

I have my defender’s crest on 24/7, I build my life around “little damage”

[split tide]

I mean the comparable damage is still atrocious

[tawny basalt]

#sk-discussion is going through it’s #hk-discussion phase

[split tide]

And there are still better one-notch charms

[opaque sigil]

but it's still twice as much damage per notch

[split tide]

True true

[coarse leaf]

or, just dont use either, because they do basically nothing

[opaque sigil]

the only advantage womb has over dcrest is that the hatchlings can move away from the knight, but if you're using womb you're using nail anyways so that is moot

[split tide]

I wish womb was available at the start

[dark vector]

It is also (most importantly!) the charm bestowed upon you by the only remaining knight of Hallownest. Taking it off would be treason

[opaque sigil]

[split tide]

Like there’s honestly no real reason to gate it after a spike tunnel, and the aspid arena would still be pretty doable before false knight

[opaque sigil]

remember, damage isn't good just because it's free, and womb isn't even free

[dark vector]

Observe this wheelchair - this is what I’m gonna travel in by the time Silksong comes out

[tame widget]

What a leak does to a discussion chat

[tired cave]

Guys in 3 hours is future games show : Maybe Silksong (yes I'm desesperate)

[untold inlet]

Has there been any deconfirmation or are we still hyping up tomorrow

[stark estuary]

Nobody said it was. DC is 1 and does comparable damage which means double the damage per notch

[opaque sigil]

At least Hornet's mechanical familiar tool doesn't actively drain an important resource, although unless they do a good deal more damage than glowing womb that's still not great

[dark vector]

I, sadly, don’t think so, although I would be glad to be proven wrong

[grand oriole]

me waiting for tommorow for 35 years

[tired cave]

Yeah it won't be (that's why I said I was desesperate)

[trim estuary]

Real

[stark estuary]

DC also doesn't use up Soul but they're both bad so

[dark vector]

Everything ends

The wait will end too

[opaque sigil]

part of the issue with dcrest and glowing womb is that their damage never increases, if glowing womb scaled somehow it might be worth it for nail builds

[coarse leaf]

its not comparable damage at all btw, like, the lower DPS you have, the more every damage counts

[dark vector]

How dare you.

I get calling any charm bad, but DC is a Gift

I will always stand proud

[opaque sigil]

it's around the same dps, womb jut does it in more intermittent bursts

[dark vector]

As the defender of the defenders crest

[stark estuary]

Cope

[dark vector]

Seeth

[trim estuary]

So was half of kingsoul

[dark vector]

True

[mortal bay]

I forgot it was called defenders crest and not Dung Crest

[stark estuary]

The Scaleless? From Dark Souls?

[uncut citrus]

What are you, Ad?

[split tide]

Honestly womb’s soul drain isn’t that bad

[opaque sigil]

dcrest can do more dps if it hits multiple times with a cloud

[dark vector]

But kingsoul (whole) is not a gift

[dark vector]

So it doesn’t count

[opaque sigil]

kingsoul is made to be bad mechanically

[stark estuary]

Well you stole the other half from your dead dad

[dark vector]

Defenders crest is good because of it’s synergies. It makes other charms better

[split tide]

Admittedly if you’re already skilled enough to basically not care about the soul drain because you’re always hitting then why are you using womb

[rapid topaz]

Hot take : spore shroom isn't that bad...

[stark estuary]

No

[dark vector]

Like flukenest

I love flukenest

[opaque sigil]

dcrest is good situationally because there are weird cases of goons that only have one hp

[stark estuary]

DC makes Flukenest and GW worse than they already are

And DC is bad by itself as well

[rapid topaz]

Dcrest + spore shroom is cool

[uncut citrus]

'think i clicked on the wrong channel..

[dark vector]

Big gloud
Cope. You will never smell heroically

[tame widget]

Perhaps Silksong won't be tommorow, but at least before the end of the year.
It would be a bit anticlimactic to say that "it can't be too much longer, surely" & then make us wait 1,5 more year

[opaque sigil]

dcrest/spore shroom is a cool combo but it's not very strong

[stark estuary]

Me when shrooms

[dark vector]

Abandon meta.
Return to style.

[stark estuary]

It would break the game

[coarse leaf]

yes, but this is theoretical, and theoretical damage math is useless, dcrest is, compared to gwomb, atrocious, dps wise, on a lot of bosses, because the boss moves

[rapid topaz]

Charm giving New abilities doesn't seem so interesting 'cause you will equip them everywhere

[opaque sigil]

depends on the boss really

[dark vector]

Not really
Just place some ceilings in a few spots and the game is fixed

[rapid topaz]

That's why I'm confused with Compass

I don't know what to think about it

[dark vector]

The ultimate travel charm set.
One charm

[dark vector]

Most powerful item in the game

[coarse leaf]

which is why i said on a lot of bosses yes. PV takes twice as long dcrest only, and i have to wait for kingsoul to refill my soulbar every time in gwomb only

[trim estuary]

It was just a way of saying they’re still working on it and are closer to done than they were in 2019

[opaque sigil]

I can't really think of any places where triple jump charm would mess up progression, but it would make platforming sequences hell to design

[dark vector]

I wonder
If you combine every “bad” charm in the game, do they become good

[trim estuary]

Depends on cost

[tame widget]

Define "bad"

[rapid topaz]

Yes because they have synergies

[blissful oriole]

[rapid topaz]

But it would cost 15 notches

[stark estuary]

No, the platforming in later areas is designed around having a double jump only. If you want to know what happens to the platforming when you add in triple jump as an (optional) upgrade ask Ori.

[uncut citrus]

[opaque sigil]

well that's not even half the issue, the real problem is designing platforming that is compatible and effective for players with two or three jumps

[pastel silo]

TC said they wanted to reward people who put more effort into learning environment , like orienting themselves based on landmarks etc. I think this is a nice way to do so, you get a free notch if you are willing to rely on your own sense of orientation

[dark vector]

Affordable

[rapid topaz]

That's fair then

[split tide]

Just overcharm ez

[fiery coral]

It becomes more fun!

[dark vector]

As the vessel’s beloved father once said - “No cost too great”

What do you think of this fine specimen

[fiery coral]

Seriously though it may trivialise most bits but I quite enjoyed breezing through the game world

[trim estuary]

squItward

[stark estuary]

Fair

[cunning geode]

Now remove all jumping and you have an idea of how Doom parkour works

[fiery coral]

it's available near the end anyway so it's not like it really ruins the game

[dark vector]

My head canon is that if the knight does a triple jump he does a little speen animation in the air

[opaque sigil]

retreading ground should be trivial else it gets tedious (messenger I'm looking at you) but monarch wings is largely what does that in HK

[rapid topaz]

That's not very strong but y'know, if I play with the best charms 24/7 that's not very fun. I rather try other things because why not, killing a boss with spore shroom + dcrest is amusing

[dark vector]

The fart cloud

[dark vector]

Thank you for your feedback

[opaque sigil]

yeah, it is a tad disappointing that the best charms are the least interesting

[stark estuary]

Silksong will fix that

[opaque sigil]

Hopefully!

[dark vector]

Always were

In almost every game the best thing is the most trivial one
That’s why they are good

[stark estuary]

Even in HK Charms were a last minute addition which explains the awful balance

[rapid topaz]

I won't say awful tho

[stark estuary]

I would!

[coarse leaf]

its pretty awful

[blissful oriole]

Pardner

[opaque sigil]

Red tools seem to have enough room for variation and situational excellence that using different ones for different encounters is optimal, but blue or yellow tools could potentially fall into the same pit HK charms did

[stark estuary]

Just have scaling tools, the best HK Charms were the ones that scaled in effectiveness with nail/spell damage

[dark vector]

If you hand anything to the people who create and use the meta they can suck the fun out of it.

[stark estuary]

Charms that did fixed damage were just terrible most of the time

[wispy stream]

so close keep going

[opaque sigil]

yeah it would be cool if they had damage scaling, or at least tools of every niche that are effective in every stage of the game

[coarse leaf]

you have like, 4 or 5 charms that are objectively the best. Using anything else is unoptimal and gives you a disadvantage. Thats pretty awful id say

[dark vector]

What do the number mean

[trim estuary]

That’s a link not a counter

[uncut citrus]

Oh yeah thats not percentage-

[wispy stream]

i tought he was playing gta

[opaque sigil]

That's one thing about randos that I like, you proactively can't seek out the charms you know are best, so there's actually motivation to use what you find

[uncut citrus]

@coarse leaf@sinful flare@uncut citrus

#hk-discussion message

[tawny basalt]

Or click link in my about me

[coarse leaf]

oh my god

[fiery coral]

wouldn't it be funny if

[dark vector]

I like it when the meta is destroyed

[trim estuary]

We’re half way there

[coarse leaf]

that is genius

[fiery coral]

I removed all reactions

[opaque sigil]

very

[lament lotus]

mmm