#sk-discussion
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it's not about the players getting exposed, it's about potential unmatched expectations further hurting sales
it took like, 2 weeks
There’s a clear drop off between this channel and the discussion around the game from when the riddles were a thing and the modern day.
Why’s the assumption they care so much about sales now?
TC knows HK has a huge audience, so they can do whatever they want. People will still buy the game
well if they do anything at this point that isn't the release date... people will just complain about it
i can testify
holy shit
the first directs were a mess
cause that's how they can continue even making games???
I don't get the 'potential unwanted expectations' thing because yeah that's what trailers are for, to show off the game
what the gel
like actually triple the number of people being hyped for them
that's why you make trailers
sorry i meant unmatched, dyslexia moment
anyway chats getting way too busy for my liking, cya guys
Silksong is supposedly very big, I don't think that revealing a few screenshots would massively increase expectations enough that Silksong wouldn't meet them
Even with HK they released it at an inopportune time. Of course they want to release their game at a good time (SS not running off of HK Kickstarter money but their sales from HK).
i feel like you guys forget that we aren't the millions of people who bought hk sometimes when you talk about news
we're the ones who are sure to buy
i'm very certain the rest has forgotten about it
partly
Absolutely
Inb4 'but the kids in the Direct chats'
You’re still thinking of TC as obligated to manage the fanbase, when their purposes for public outreach are to be focused on the outside of the fanbase.
TC claims what they want to claim about their design process, which is that they cut and produce content on the fly. Would you prefer to get teased with things that didn’t stay?
TC also made an intentional pivot from DLC to Sequel/prequel standalone game.
You can’t market DLC the same way as a sequel or vice versa. this is what 2019 was for TC. A pivot.
I don’t know why they don’t want to make a peep on the game, but that doesn’t necessarily matter either. Not showing off content midway through doesn’t matter - they’re going to market once they start the marketing cycle - which is what any self sufficient business does.
a vocal minority at most
My friends who I convinced to play HK do not care about SS anymore. Nor have they ever. They watched the trailer and demo and fucked off because that’s all they saw quickly.
but they'll be back
They are also not a philanthropic organization. TC cares about sales because exponentially increases in funding pay for larger projects later.
Yeah Silksong is definitely bigger than HK, and with the introduction of new elements like tools and quests (and more physics), it'd surely take some time to implement
i mean i personally think it's shitty as indie game devs to not give us updates on a product we're gonna pay money for but you know 🥴
The point isn't the time though
like this isn't them "giving" the game to us
The point is that they've not communicated well enough
can confirm my one friend that played hollow knight watched the trailer, asked me if it was out yet, and then never mentioned it again
it would be shitty if you already payed money for it...
What’s the argument for putting news out now anyways. It won’t silence any toxicity, though it probably would help.
my opinion is that i am gonna buy Ori 2 to protest against TC
ha jokes on you i wont
:(
what.
no buy the day before instead
I just can’t agree with DDXs points or understand them very well, so I don’t think I’ll continue to much into that. Sorry dude
why
like the backers 🥴
Vote with your wallet. I mean this unsarcastically and inoffensively
It is indeed
The fuck do you mean vote with your wallet
id rather buy Tales of Maj'Eyal 4 complete with the Ashes of Urh'Rok DLC available now on Steam
i'll pay for it in the end, because i am here anyway, but ngl they could handle it better and no amount of excuses really goes against that i feel like
Agreed
noob games company that makes a DLC instead of spinning it into its own game 
I don’t care if Team Cherry is some huge 5 steps ahead company who cares about money, the fact is people fell off because they didn’t update anything in a year and a half.
I know the phrase, just thought the usage was wrong for a moment
That’s exactly the thing. You’re gonna pay the business money anyways. So why would they expend money to ensure you give them money?
They don't need to ensure that people like Sonia and you and me will buy it
You’re coming at this from the view TC cares only about money and nothing else
because i am in the 10% of the fanbase who still cares lol
That was kinda her initial point
If it’s about being polite - I’d say a free sequel instead of a character pack is pretty polite to the backers. Not that it should be a factor
because 90% of the original potential buyers won't buy it now
.
I believe once they're ready to release they can flip a switch and hype will turn to 11, the few disgruntled people won't matter at all
theres a incentive to do that because of a profit margin, you'll make more money by convincing more people
They still lost out on people who forgot the game existed over a year and a half and who may completely miss a release
Who’s not buying the game because of a lack of updates…? And how can you say that for sure, games are sold on their release market cycles. Not their announcements
Fact is they aren’t very good at marketing it anyways. The initial release may just miss and instead these people will learn LATER the game came out
I feel like anyone who would have remembered the game existed because of periodic updates will also definitely remember the game exists when the trailer is revealed
how can they miss it once hype is turned to 11 tho
SS will be everywhere
it's not "not buying a game because of the lack of updates", it's not caring anymore
That’s just not true
We are inbetween the announcement cycle and release cycle. This exists for every videogame, triple A or indie. Some games have gone longer and shorter with and without news
like it's not a protest against it
Silksong fans are a community who will be hyped. The outreach at least from what I’ve seen isn’t crazy far.
silksong was announced too early
not this again
And some games continue to post some content in between.
what do you expect?
and some don't
You’ll care when there’s a new trailer with new stuff. When they’ve delivered on what they’ve promised. You’ll then judge if it was worthwhile, and then make a decision
Look at Crowsworn. Even if I don’t agree with everything they do they still show stuff off
I will
that's the whole point
I mean people who don’t
i only want hall of gods and mini speedruns in silksong
The people who didn't care for it after the 1.5 year may still not care 
People who don’t know about the game are who marketers target. If you can know for sure 50% of people who play video games would buy your game, you don’t try and raise the number to 60% - you find more people who play videogames
Like it's not a guarantee that 'oh NOW it's out, I'm buying this on release
'
no i get what you're saying that they'll get sales anyway but i don't think their marketing approach is doing anything in favour of it rn
And they may just not hear about it because their attention span wasn’t so huge they stayed updated in the community
My friends didn’t know about the riddles and Edge until I told them.
my attention span is tiny, I wonder why i even still play hollow knight or am in this channel waiting for silksong
yeah a few of my friends were like that too, especially the riddles they are really unknown for casual fans
Yep
Case in point - those weren’t for em
riddles?
Well maybe it should’ve been in some capacity?
in my head, the updates aren't that big of a deal for people that aren't gonna buy it because of release hype, the reason to do them would be to keep fans aware of what's going on
it's not really bad for them as a company at all, it's just unfortunate that we barely ever hear anything about the game's development
I don’t want to see TC lose people. But it’s happening regardless!
Again:
If Silksong gets announced it will break the internet for sure
yea
TC wants to break the internet and Market in burst. As any company would.
(that thing Graig said about the game being release ready but progressively expanded on until it's big enough for them is the only thing we've heard besides "development is happening" iirc)
Don’t believe me? Ask em
Inherently flawed.
yeah the breadcrumbs certainly aren't meant for the general public
They also haven’t been completely community silent - they’ve just tucked away the game.
by not giving news. The rare moment they do give news those news reach everyone and their grandma
Now we might think it's a bad marketing strategy but honestly this is is the best way to make a big BOOM when they release the game
Nope.
Okay so we do agree that different marketing strategies serve different purposes and audiences?
Case in point my friends literally didn’t hear shit about the riddles or anything else and assuming the algorithm is going to cater to them when they don’t watch anything HK related is a chance at best (with an algorithm that’s chaotic).
^
Of course they do. And my case here is I think it would benefit them if they didn’t do what they are doing.
The riddles were just crumbs, if you are not into the HK scene ofc you won't hear about it
And you believe TC will be able to reach out to your friends by posting boss gameplay or tool stats.
right but if non-release date updates do reach them, so will release date ones, and if they don't, maybe the release date ones will
that's assuming their release strat is to just release a YT video...
I think that by releasing more streamlined teasers every couple months they would’ve stayed seeing things
actually yeah, having an actual online presence does a lot and doesn't just come from spoiling stuff
Believe me, we are currently suffering but this is only for good. We will be going into a game almost blind. It's way better than getting spoiled with news and gameplays
Or; alternatively, They make a product the current fanbase is happy to engage with - while saving the marketing for the target audience of their marketing
The reason those people don’t know about the news is because it’s not on shit like their YouTube
This I stand by, but it’s also a personal thing - and it’s not a choice if there’s no choice
And why is that?
And cmon, every fucking screenshot they release it's analysed pixel by pixel by the fanbase
i don't see how you can act like this is a mastermind type of marketing strat when it fully relies on and is only for us
the only news they released targeted at a more general audience was the magazine interview
Perhaps, it’s public image.
I have linked this already.
#sk-discussion message
He says “crumbs of content when you’re starving”
people dying of malnutrition a year ago after waiting for content for a year: 💀🦴☠️
I’m not. It’s not masterminded, it’s base level advertising
That didn’t reach people unless they read edge anyways
not doing anything is not, in fact, advertising
I'm honestly done playing nice. If they don't hand Silksong over soon, I'm going to get my friends and we're burning this town to the ground, got it?
You either increase the perceived value of your product, or you make it cheaper.
what
I didn't say targeted at everyone, I just said a more general audience than the hardcore fanbase
The fanbase starving for news and talking about the game all day is actually doing the marketing for them
updates are not bad for the game??
Why would communication from the devs make it cheaper 
i think team cherrys marketing is absolute fucking dumb shit. Like its good when wanting to sell or make profit or whatever but i want silksong
Can't believe one of our mods is an arsonist
I can
They aren’t talking about the game all day. We use to, back with the riddles and shit. Not anymore. This is off topic half the time.
it's ttacco, he's not any mod
By being on this channel all day and being annoying when any indie world comes out ? XD
oh yeah lmao remember when this channel had the on topic rule inforced
i forgot none of you will get that reference because none of yall fuckers played New Vegas
Cuza most of the time i see the where is ss in those streams
Fair
I just kinda wished they would at least show a bit more of the areas or enemies 
and there's a lot of people who specifically don't want that
honestly, for me, this case is the opposite, I wanna just play this game without knowing anything and get blown away
Silksong becomes trending on Twitter every time there is an event. It gets spammed in Twitch chats. How can you not tell we are marketing the game? The hype is not dead and you all are just so impatient. Live on with your lives and someday it will come.
^
or, play other games in the meantime while silksong is getting worked on
silksong is a myth
We don't know what's going on behind the scenes but really giving a blog post with 2 lines of text and a sprite of smith would have been more than enough. At this point it's way to much silence. I myself have no problem with it but it would have been nice.
i feel like event streams getting flooded by silksong people every time just pisses non-fans off, makes them think the fandom is toxic, and makes them less inclined to want to play it but thats just my take
and still gets hyped every time
im patient bro, i dont care if how long it takes but when i ask for a little update after 1.5 years suddenly im impatient
Hi everyone
im not even saying i deserve the update
sup frosty
Kids yelling SILKSONG SILKSONG SILKSONG in every chat in a direct would have made me think lower of the fanbase rather than better of the game if I weren't a part of the fandom
the silksong spammers on directs is negative marketing
No no we totally get you since most of us are in the same boat
If this is what you call marketing, it's certainly not the good kind
i feel like that's ignoring how the hype has been slowly declining over time
To be fair it’s kinda out of team cherrys control
silksong spammers do really be like that
Giving actual updates every once in a while is not
Even if there were news but no release date i feel like silksong spammers would still exist 
Was just mentioning this elsewhere
theres a fine line between "im excited if we get something from TC" vs to "fuck TC theyre a bunch of cunts who doesnt care about their fanbase" and im not trying to get lumped on the latter
Way to have your fan base come off as toddlers
There might still be but not to this extent.
True
I honesty think team cherry is not giving updates, then dropping out a trailer for us to get blown away you know
I don't think the hype is declining but whatever, it's still funny to me how you all will be here losing your minds when it gets announced. That effect wouldn't be the same if the game released 2 years ago...
TC care about their fan base but they might not be experienced in how to handle long waits with high amounts of hype
That’s my speculation
i mean, noone here isnt gonna go apeshit when it comes out
the people in this server arent the same people whos suddenly not gonna buy the game because it took them 4 years
Why are people thinking that having no news for so long to the point the fan base becomes a lot more toxic is a good strategy
Also graig baiting every single time there’s a direct or event really doesn’t help the case too
i can tell you first hand the change in hype is blatant
Maybe they’re having a hard time managing the huge fan base
I only feel sad for the mods since they have to remind everyone and themselves, that there is no silksong news today 
yeah ofc we're gonna be excited we're the 10% again
I mean
Even hollow knight had different smaller trailers that came out before the actual release trailer
I don’t think it’s really that difficult
10%?
There is no one not buying the game cause it took them 4-5 years. There will be lots of people buying cause it took them 4-5 years.
Graig said it takes about a week to do a normal blogpost
that's totally time they could expend if they wanted to
they seem to just not care very much about marketing
listen idk how to say it but like, we're the few who still care about ss this hard
Oh ok now I understand you
Hell yeah.
This chat is far worse than it used to be. Every topic is expended and beaten into the ground.
We are the 10% but then the chat is flooded with Silksong among any other game. How is that not being excited?
no bro you dont understand were the same people whos not gonna buy the game anymore because it took 50 years
fr
thats why were talking about it rn
i can tell you here, at least, that people are getting extremely less excited
like shit, theres Nothing to theorize about or discuss anymore
I dont deserve Silksong as I dont deserve a product that I didnt kickstart but on a fan perspective how is 1.5 silence not a little bit frustrating at least?
and we are the one big group of the community with almost 200k members
its all been done to death
Yep
honestly, I can wait for many years to come, I won't mind or anything
I can’t
Dude you’re 100% right. It’s not a hot take
then don't
Maybe we just never asked them personally ? Why not go to Australia and just straight up ask leth if there's any news
I’m going to college and I have a working life now. Admittedly I don’t have the time for games like I used too.
They might be less excited but they will still be hyping up every event even more than the last one cause chances keep getting greater. And they will still buy.
Leth doesn't live in Australia
Silksong coming out would be cool, but i feel like i would miss the current ss-disc like the day we get any kind of news... 
That's what he wants you to think
Leth is a Cali man with oreo dreams
didn't he move to a different state?
i can tell you it's actually less than the last one every time
Bcs people just got used to the events
yeah
were not hyping up events we are coping with them
when leth replied to geoff on twitter it was in the middle of the night in the US... but in australia it would have been the middle of the day 
People don’t care anymore bcs they have no faith
Literally this actually
Hell if you want me to be honest? im more offended by the lack of communication with the fans when the Anniversary popped up
there was so many artwork created and people were celebrating, TC didnt even interact, they just let it go
yes they dont "owe" them some sort of interaction but even that was disheartening to see especially when your passionate about it
Ppl have been hyping up every event exactly because there is no communication. Remember a few months ago when Graig went troll mode and made us believe ss would have a trailer?
so this is when it'll happen
back then they even retweeted a couple of artwork
Silksong is a little bit different than your average AAA or indie game. I truly believe this is a passion project and they don't want to mess up in any way. They don't want to keep messing with the fans about the development and honestly i can see TC hoping expectations get lower (cause they have always been waaaaaaaay up)
🙌🏻
Maybe they forgo their accounts for social medias
there spending 150 hours a week working on silksong, theres no time
I remember it was like, just known there’d be a community blogpost. Everyone here was certain. So disappointed there wasn’t.
like when the riddles were still a thing the chat was literally being spammed a day in advance for every direct
bro the marketing people aren’t the ones making silksong
As in cutting content? In the old HK trailers there was cut content. Quite a bit too
we're less than 10 hours away and we're talking about something else entirely
This I agree with. I want them to still talk to us even if not acknowledging Silksong. We deserve that.
tbf we're less than 10 hours away from an event that Silksong was more or less confirmed to not be at
we deserve nothing we're awful
I sort of now believe the theory that team cherry did accidentally delete silksong 
the lack of communication is just frustrating. I think its the wrong way to go about it. Not saying they should leak new areas or something but just say they are working on it and maybe show a new enemy
nobody confirmed or deconfirmed
honestly the hype for the event is artificial and is out of desperation instead of ACTUAL hype for news
that didn't stop them back then 🥴
Sure fine no blogpost, idgaf yada yada it takes 1 week to set them up fine enough, im not a developer, and theyre human too
but even then, as a fan, the lack of interaction when your entire community that kept the game going alive through artwork, music, etc, is entirely ignored is still disheartening
I’m hyped for SGF but not bcs of SS. Why can’t people enjoy events that are not related to SS?
Leth can't do much if TC doesn't give him something to work with
better call saul
well yes but is that a bad thing?
no im just saying that there is factually less hype in this server
yeah definitely
well yea sgf is cool but i wont get any game on it except its silksong
probably
I deserve Silksong right now
why?
this server has more hype about Elden Ring than anything else
same
YOOO BABY WOOO
Maybe you’ll see a game that you like? Don’t rule out the possibility
rainworld downpour tyvm
elden ring dlc is inevitable, its gonna release before silksong
Bruh
If you believe graig was trolling or misleading the community, you are either a bumbling buffoon or heard it from someone who was.
I present to you the multi-layered and malicious deceptive tactics of graig
At least for me i agree. Every new news possibility just feels less and less exciting compared to a year ago
That was like, the 5th anniversary right?
its possible ig but except its less than 10€ i wont even look into it
anyway silksong is releasing in the future and we will enjoy iy
People actually believe Graig?
no
Plus events are not just trailers or gameplay they’re also about the community. About coming together to celebrate our hobby. Even if you don’t care about any of the games it’s still fun watching it with fellow gamers
despair does things to people 😔
silksong does things
Even graig is insane
I’ll also note that I’m biased in terms of developer communication
In the words of Tammo (2022), hope divorced from reality is delusion.
Graig makes it obvious that hes joking... but still the obvious taunting over Silksong while theres radio silence gets frustrating
I will probably get none of the games on SGF but I’ll still watch it with the homies
As a team fortress 2 fan (one of the 8 remaining) I have faith in the heavy update 
🤝
I'll watch it on Discord yes, we'll all cry
Bruh. Making light out of serious situations is a grounded definition of humor.
We can all watch it together
I mean like
I still play the game and the bots suck
But it’s fine most of the time
At least for me
Uninstalled tf2. Ping me if they got update tysm
warframe has great community interaction. Dev streams that show off new stuff. They never keep tooooo silent about something
Tf2 classic is back online and it’s sick
🤝
while silksong is far away from anything
I'm asia so almost nobody 😔
That might be the case but Warframe is a live service game. They need to update often
Also the tf2 situation can’t really be compared with silksong since you can at least play tf2 
Tho you’re not making a comparison in the first place
this year yeah
you aint the only one who lives in asia buddy
Sgf is today and for once I'm not gonna watch one of these
Now watch them confirm silksongs relevant date at sgf
It's not far away, I have it in my drawer
Yeah. I’m not. Soooooo 
tbf he was at times
One of us
not always
they didnt post for the 5th anni but they went out to get lunch all together so that counts for something
I think my favorite community is the DooM community. The lead designer literally tweeted about his ideas for the expansions and did weekly livestreams playing the game and discussing it
Wanna play treefort 3 ?
One of us
but until the TGA shit, it was like 5 layers of irony
nah, laptop having issues
yeah, it got real after TGA
fr
One of us
Graig was advertising his game lmao, tryna reel people in
Community input is not always a necessary or positive developer tool. It is of course a welcome one (and was used by TC for SS!)
Also might just be me but I think the game i wasted my money on the most
Is minecraft
I mean.. yea. They could've like said something for their literal 5th anniversary or retweet some artwork. I know they're working hard and all but is that so much? Sorry if I sound ungrateful.
Minecoind 😳
If you paid for anything not the base game then that’s your fault
I mean.. yea. They could've like said something for their literal 5th anniversary or retweet some artwork. I know they're working hard and all but is that so much? Sorry if I sound ungrateful.
Yes I’m just pointing out my opinions
That's because people a lot of people legitimately convinced themselves that SS would be at TGA even though there was absolutely no indication that it would be there.
It’s the base game
It wasn’t worth it
No, thats a logical thing to think
Rip, if only you had access to other means of interacting with the mechanics
the only reason i wasted my money the most on minecraft is the fact that its 27$ and never goes on sale and it doesnt have regional pricing. thank you mojang/ms, you are very generous for the best seller
Talk about TC's lack of communication all you want, but the fanbase were setting themselves up for disappointment with that one in particular.
my minecraft account got hacked and stolen 
I had fun with it for like 10 hours
And then it stops being fun really quickly
gm
i just think it gets annoying that people are getting toxic when it comes to events i just want TC to say that SS isnt on sgf or say that ss news will be in 7 motnhs or something i don't know
A good excuse to play terraria instead
Same happened to me but I got it back (and never changed it back to the original name
)
i had fun with it for a huge amount of hours, but eh all of it was mods and shit anyway and not stuff by mojang
Not even a mod. This is a server minigame
my takeaway too, they dont even have to say anything about silksong and if they did, i dont care if they put it on a footnote on the very bottom
Minecraft survival gets depressing after a short while
Multiplayer is clearly how you’re supposed to play it but it’s still not fun with friends for me
noooo
it would be nice if we had consistency with updates
now remove the texture pack to see the gun become a hoe
I couldn't get it back, I made the account in like 2009
like, even just if we always knew there would be something in December, or something
yeah, that
The root of the game is that there isn’t a way you’re “supposed” to play.
but still it was like your entire fanbase was celebrating and all TC did was 🤐
was go out for lunch
back then they retweeted art even
they didnt say anything
the only thing they retweet these days is Plushies or wtv
I won’t say minecraft is bad since it’s clearly not
But for me the game is just really meh and boring
You mean they havent developed anything cool in all that time?
Perfectly fine
My Minecraft username was "blazeofdeathness" (I was like 8 ok) and when it was hacked the name was changed to "Z_Viincius_MC" and back then I was probably too dumb to change it back so it remained that way
And we already seen 1/3 of the game already?
there was the release of the figure uhhhh
yeah the Mecha Sherma fight was killing the frames due to TC's idea of adding bloom to eerything because they think it looks good
"1/3 of the game" 
Minecraft is aight. I remember way back in the day there was a server i used to play with hella plugins n shit, it was straightup an MMORPG, i do not remember the name tho :(
Maybe wr have to wait for the 5th anniversary of the silksong trailer
I think, weirdly enough, the high amount of things you can do in minecraft is what makes the game feel boring to me
I don’t feel like going through so many different ways to play, or modes to play just to find one that suits me
minecraft survival vanilla is boring... but multiplayer is a never-ending experience tbh
I honestly do not care if they say something about SS or not. I just wanted them to acknowledge their game and celebrate it with their fans in a simple tweet.
Yeah but bloom looks good tho So it might be worth it
TC is just cracking under the mental strain of animating sherma. Just hold out till shermuary
Just add as much bloom as possible to a game to improve the graphics
Whne is shermauary
Right after octember
Better keep your word or I'm eating cardboard
The 53rd of june is the release date
I gotta make this joke at least once
Minecraft feels like something i need to really put effort into before having fun
And it’s simply not fun for me to do that 
Holdon i gotta worship the chicken god
There’s a lot of things people can do while waiting for silksong
Such as watching morbius for the morbillion time
mother fuckin WYNNCRAFT holy shit. ITS STILL AROUND AND GETTING A MAJOR UPDATE?!?
yeah, being literally the HIGHEST GROSSING GAME OF ALL TIME, you would think they could put a little more effort into it
they could quite easily add all 3 mobs in those stupid voting events
Cheers to you, late night #sk-discussion fellow, for unlocking a fuckin core memory of mine
Souls retrieved
Why do that when you can have hopeless controversy and wars on twitter?
This reminds me of a LoTR server I played on
oh yeah I forgot about the twitter wars
I’ll be honest i do want minecraft to be one of my favourite games seeing as to how great most others say it is
I unfortunately think fall guys is a better option
I just want another song of the soundtrack from ss, just one
Maybe forcing myself to try and enjoy minecraft made the experience even worse
Does anyone remember Tekkit
me: playing Ori
Who told you to do the thing
Imo minecraft is only fun with friends
Idk minecraft is too complicated for me
Games that are more simple appeal to me more
You play tf2 and hollow knight
I believe you mean you don’t like sandbox games. Which again, is fine
A lack of direction is good and bad for different people and for different reasons
yeah
Same problem for don't starve, where the fun comes from discovering things yourself
Reading this sentence I feel like I'm in that one scene from Inside Out where sadness touches all of the lost memories
You lose an intended player experience, ideally worth the risk in enabling a personal one
They are simple games if you look at it, that add more complexity down the way
Minecraft is also simple but now i need to manage my farm and my animals and now I’m low on coal i need to mine coal oh shit my diamond pickaxe is gonna break i need diamond now i need to farm again let me try going into the nether nope I’m not doing that now i need to kill my cows for meat now i need to cook the meat I’m starving shit i need iron
Like it’s too much
Sandbox games with nebulous objectives (And then maybe a final boss if you’re lucky) aren’t my jam
Idk if Totally accurate battle sim counts as a sandbox game but I enjoy it a lot
Yeah. And then there’s the hollow knight map:
There is no multitude of variables, information, or points of interest you need to gather or comprehend here 
I don’t need to go back to cyrstal peak every 20 minutes to mine crystals because my crystal dash is running out of fuel
Or go through deepnest again because weaversong is losing its effectiveness or something
HK and Minecraft are very different games. I don't think that's a fair comparison.
Yeah
But that’s what minecraft would feel like if it was hollow knight
If that made sense 
The map would also be procedurally generated, though
No two playthroughs would be the exact same. It'd be like a randomizer but one that randomizes the world itself.
If Minecraft is hollow knight. I just straight up build to ending
Hello 
Exploring in hollow knight feels refreshing
In minecraft it just feels like a chore having to leave my half built house and constantly having no direction
Yes
I'm just saying yes
pins
I got icecream
Spelling mistake
maior spelling mistake
i crave violence
when will summer game fest be?
Check pins
?
Channel pins. Pinned messages.
Click the pin icon in the top right hand corner
It's the top message
You know what, here
It's in 9 hours
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oh I did not know this dyno command existed
now you do
Originally I thought that silksong could never be at summer game fest
Only known by help regulars
Because he literally said it wouldn’t happen
and that hasnt changed
But then he tweeted that a world premiere was delivered to him the other day
So now it’s on the table
its not
He’s said that he wants to do it so that’s pretty juicy
You have to admit it is. It might be a low chance but it’s still a chance
Hope divorced from reality is delusion.
We don’t know what his tweet was referring to and silksong is a candidate
no
It’s a big enough game to warrant that response
All candidates are candidates
Next the community will flock to every Nintendo direct - oh wait 
The floor is made out of floor
Yeah but before there was no chance now there is a slim chance
That’s all I need🤡

I mean if you want to die on that hill there's always a chance, but the odds of SS being at any one event are empirically very low. If anything, it's even more unlikely that SS will be at SGF than any other based on Geoff's statement.
Literally just wait a few hours
Yeah but then the tweet happened so it’s possible
Still incredibly unlikely
But possible
And am I a silksong fan if I don’t cling onto impossibilities?
If it doesn’t appear I’ll just spam clown emojis like everyone else
you are coping and you know it
copium and clownkin are both trash memes
Get better memes 
Omg
I don't care, I'll be getting Downpour news anyways 
what's this other event happening? some streamer organised it
Which one?
event
cromsworn was announced to be there
Oh yeah
it may be anticlimactic to say this in ss-discussion, but i'm not asking for silksong
OTKGamesExpo
weird but interested
Yo has team cherry denied that they announcing anything for summer game fest yet cause if not I’m getting my clown make up out
thats next month i think
hype ig
they have not, they also have no obligation to
also hey ziggy 
Nah bro it’s tradition at this point to cope for it, it has become my monthly tradition to cope that silksong comes out
the only time SS was explicitly denounced was last year's E3
good silksong clown fest day to you
Aight time for the clown wear and setting an alarm
The last couple of E3s have been kinda dead ngl
i think i'm sitting this one out, i don't think i can keep up with the convos here
there have already been some pretty stressful moments for me here
some ppl say todays sgf is going to be boring
sgf is going to be boring
Your mom is boring
yeah she is
Ian 
Wait this is actually readable quality
ignored
Real Ian 

sgf is going to be standart event with toxic ss fans
looks like it
Right, while you were away, we saw another Ian
though i believe both are real, this one is the one i know 
Ooo
I'll make sure we are never on chat together so you think we are the same person
OOPS
who is that 
A loretuber
as Quinesse i can confirm
Sulfury I am sorry it was me who accidentally pinged you
It was an accident
He's never posted a message in this server so he'll probably ignore it
who isn't your alt
well he did talk about the riddles on his vid, so i guess he probvably joined this serv solely for that
Those are on the wiki I think
eh
about 180k peeps here
And the Silksong doc
reeves has 7k alts woah
but it did happen here right? so maybe to get the actual source
or maybe he joined just to get pinged whenever theres silksong news
Erie!
Hi!
actually i only have 2k of them, the rest are alts of the person who Reeves is an alt of, alt of the alt of the alt and all
can you get them to react with zotechad message
I just noticed the mouse key on the top right
Scary
thats cheating, though i did do it with alot of them, but that was just so that they dont suspect them to be alts
this seth
THANK YOU AMINA
yo guys 3 reacts and we are half way there
i have never seen this clip, is it fanmade?
you havent been here much, have you?
no tc gave it to reeves and told him to share it right now
the Voice... has chosen me...
Well, lovely people, I'm heading out for now and for a little while. Stay chill. Compliment Reevers while I'm gone.
not very much no lmao
to send this gif everytimes Seth is mentioned!
Yoooo
153 enemies
have a good day
Cya Ian. Will be sure to compliment Reevy.
@uncut citrus Fuck you

@uncut citrus
Why
Thank you Thank you
np anytime

yes
anytime?
Also how would people damage seth
He seems to just block everything
if this message gets 1 react i will drink water
(in case youre wondering this is a fake, just sayin cause you havent been there that much so i cant tell if you know or not)
He throws his shield
i reacted so i can drink water
I can tell
But it’s really professional imo
drink 3 water 
seth gif
I said 153 enemies because I’m pretty sure team cherry had more enemies on the game than only 153
Also it's unlikely that he'll be able to guard attacks at all times from all directions, he'll have openings
Hmm ok
hk and ss will have 100 enemies total
theres a spelling mistake right side. Thats how to see its fake
Aluo is a professional faker indeed!
(well they used another word but basically the same thing)
I hope he doesn’t have too much hp tho
Seems like hell trying to get around his shield
Yeah, travelers
He also made that!
This is a good Aluo fake
i hope every enemy in ss has 3600 hp each and hornet can only deal 1 damage with any weapon
yes
mine's better tbh honest
The Fangamer one was really good too, had every- Reeves.
hornet is void?
no
void is Hornet
Reeves that's so obviously fake, TK isn't in SS.
Replace TK with Hornet and it'll be far more convincing
Put like the glowing Freddy face on the right
when i swim in void am i just pushing over hornets and walking on a bunch
I think you meant to say "hornest"

Ok I lied
TK is in SS, but in another form as the final boss
Well EtV is the last ending released and it ends on a cliffhanger so is obviously the canon one and VGFocus looks like it's evil and going to destroy everything and THK is out of the temple and there are Monarchlfies in the trailer and SS is going to be a sequel so I predict: Hornet will revive PK (in his Wyrm form) and then the Pale Family (Hornet, PK, Zote and THK) will all go to fight Shade Lord, riding on PK's back.
think about this, why would it be called "hollow knight: silksong song of the silk warrior gendered child sherma expansion pack" if there wasn't a hollow knight
LoS is lord of shades. So Hornet isnt void but gets turned void in silksong
both sides are right
what's LoS ?
lord of shades
Lord of Shades

obviously LoS is Landlord of Shadestorms

Give me rent
I do hope we eventually get any extra detail on what happens after EtV, probably won’t be Silksong but maybe another comic or something
Yeah same
Radiance wasn't killed, she was just being evicted from THK's mind for not paying rent
Hornet pays her rent, like the good upstanding citizen she is. That's why she was spared.
It wasn’t her fault. The knight ruined the black eggs door and the hollow knight never bothered to fix it.
Hornet pays her rent
Hornet doesn’t pay her taxes
Be like hornet

That's because tax is the invention of the Pale King, who is obviously evil!
True
I hate the pale king he casued the radiater to die sskjissmlms fucking colonist
The main message of the game is that capitalism is bad. That's why PK's regime fell to Radiance's communist regime.
Wtf
However, although the infected were equal under Radiance, she still ruled over them. That's why she fell to the LoS, who did not rule over others.
I tought i entered #sk-discussion. Wait a minute
FUCK I DID NO LORE IN HERE WHYYYYY
insert lore that is not true
sorry
Hmm yes
Lore 
Legume of Soup
reply ping on 9month old message
Its from today tho
Lands of Snail
I want soup
Lord of silksong
Whats a good type of soup?
big
the most simple ones
Soup can Pyro
slurp noises
Wigs 
What
Hi everyone 
Today,s the big day
Wigs is here 
What do you mean
Wigs can you remind the hour of the event?
Who is wigs
i was going to say “Reev is here
” but that sounds redundant
Wogs asking
Wigs Is perukas nickname

What
How are wigs related to the word perukas
wigs is a nickname for perukas that is already a nickname
Perukas isnt even a real Word like what
Ill be honest with you i forgot
But why tho
you know
other languages exists!
Whats the linguistic origin
It doesnt sound like a real Word in any language to me
perucas = wigs
Please be today lol
In what language lol
portuguese
I donno probably not
wdym 
Its most likely Pakistan or like malasian
it has probably some latin origin or something, it means wig in portuguese, and "perruque" means wig in french, and i believe there was yet another language where it sounds similar, but i cant remember
thats how you should play against false knight in p5
oh man I remember seeing this meme from when i was 7
Wait wig Is a word in english?
yes igna
this meme belongs to 2018 . So are you 12 ? 
Haha nice
I didnt knew
Spanish moment
uhn... fuck they got me
False memory moment

no... ||im 8||< {JOKE}

Oh so it means peluca
Makes sense
Discord guidelines broken the account Goes unspoken
rad vs knight
cats are great
Not really
i also got Cat :samcomfy:
mine are
im brazilian and wigs means perucas I don’t know what else to say
as they do
they are adorable dont listen to him 
Yeah its latin
In spanish its peluca
Idk about others like italian or french thought
Fun fact even saying that you are under 13 on discord (even when you are actually older) can and most likely will result in a permabanned account from this platform as a whole
hollow knight grillsong
Reev said this too
It happened multiple times
it can but most likely nothing will happen
The message doesnt even need to be reported
Hm?
ive seen it joked plenty with 0 consequences
If you Just Say it enough Times you Just get an email basically telling you "to go fuck yourself and never return to this platform" also the account gets deleted
Guess they havent done it enough

Yeah this is a serious guidelines violation according to the trust and safety team
i know you can be reported for being under 13 but ive never seen any consequences still when that doesn't happen
dude nobody will have a problem with this, chill out
Nobody apart from the mods
Not this servers mods Just the platforms ones
I am Just spreading the word
i don't think there are a bunch of people searching every single message with a number in it to see if its someone saying they're under whatever age
What kind of monster would like about their age on the internet
?||jk||
Facebook thinks I'm 400
Well thats basically those peoples job
ok im gonna walk now bye
then they're shit at it
They Just get a notification if its said enough Times and then decide if they should obliterate the account
remember
CAT GOT UP FROM MY LEGS LETS GO I CAN FEEL THEM AGAIN
we will unironically nuke you off the server if we learn that youre 13 below 
Thats true
When world premiere?
in some time
lets goo
Good
if you learn
so that means its true
so that means i can still joke about being 8 as long its not true 
that is all . nothing more
(im actually 7, not 8)
Yeah but the thing is that the trust and safety team dont know whats a joke
I'm 2
gets banned

other Ian 
Ian 2
Look, this is Ian! 
sdv is fun, especially the fishing
I was actually playing stardew for like 7h straight
then watched that french silksong vid
then went back to it 
its my first year chill i havent reached winter yet-

YOOOO same name
he tabs out alot
I WATCHED THAT TOO I DISNT UNDERSTAND SHIT
Net! 
ayooooo
winter year 1 is great
you should translate it imo
Its easy look
I'm currently at a total of 250-300 hours into that game
i already kinda did
kinda
that's fr*nch
i can kinda understand french
i have like 30 hours and 25 of those are fishing
sorta
We should create the Ian organization
fishing is so based
speaking of fishing
silksong needs a fishing minigame
true
Hornet already has the fishing line 
silksong should have sdv fishing minigame copied exactly from it
even the original hollow knight had a fishing minigame
uumuu
^
Every good game is a good game, with a fishing mini game
Ey, Tonio 
What is hornet gonna Fish up tho
a good game needs fishing
Those fish bugs in coral forest
Hello everyone, how are you doing?
idk, shadow demons
Spear fishing, or whailing
DYNAMITE FISHING
Net fishing
Yeah she gonna get on the zoatboat and hunt a damn whale
WITH HER GRENADE TOOLS
shadow demon
But do they have botes?
Who that
my cat
Hornet should be Able to drive a boat on land
Land bote
Sadly no, that classification is reserved for the Grey Prince, Zote’s flagship
Goddam you guys are still in afk
Yeah, I have somewhat stopped, but the movement continues on, or something
but if I ever feel like it, I might go into afk to chill
would you be kind enough to explain this movement
no
Always 
You run around every button is jump dont get his by the bad guys
this isnt even for some revolt or something its just nice to chill in a VC
lmfaoo
i would chill in other silent VCs all day, i can do that here too, as AFK is always silent 
sing in vc while muted
I am actually
Can anyone send me cheap and stale bread to a remote location in some random field 600 kilometers away from civilisatio?
im just singing to my music like i would, not too loud 'cause my family's still in the house, but high enough that you could totally hear if i wasnt muted and supressed
ss-discussion theme rn:
https://youtu.be/Lcpd0lhYMQI
I don't see that many version of this song with the actual bells/sounds/epicness of it. So I went ahead and did just did that. I also used a very cheesy video thing because I'm cool like that.
The only audio manipulation I did was use Audicity's effect "Gverb." I played around with it and got this effect which was PERFECT I thought.
Enjoy.
you say that as you sung in vc 
based
we dont talk about that
I should check how many zotechads we have right now
i messed up my voice by screaming ggs zato 1 theme yesterday and i have presentation to do
why not 
251
1 more and halfway there
mod removes all reactions
Hi Tonio, Nettle and Reeves
Hello frostyy, how is life?
Ahh, what happened
University assignments
That would cause pain
Take HW but on crack
hi everyone
hoi
Hello
any hopes today?
no
Well the fire emblem three hopes demo is out
No but still gonna watch the reveals
Today
right
Today is Alou’s birthday
same. Planning on watching with Frostyyy if everything works out
Fire emblem fans explaining how they like the games for the story and not for the hot anime girls
@opaque sigil 
embalm
This is literally
an emblem fail
Nettle joins vc 
silksong fans pretending they play the game for the story
I play games, for the game
you sure?
It’s a weird concept but please understand
What

I think this is why reeves summoned you
Tammo agrees
Hopefully you guys can watch SGF with us
Nope
||hot anime guys*||
Obviously plz be civil and don’t spam clown emojis
They stopped using clown for weird oni thing
Spamming clown emojis is maidenless behaviour
i will make one or two clown emojis
Some of the guys are very hot yes. I’m straight, but still.
Well I don’t want maidens so guess I know what I’m doing
No maidens?

patiently awaiting for the day the clown emoji users become clown themselves
just a matter of time

So you don’t have to use clown emojis to become a clown
ssssssssoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...
When do Summer Game Fest begin? 
I don’t know
?pins
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clowns ≠ clown emoji users
clown emoji users = clowns
thancc 
it i see more than one clown emoji in one message i will find you
And do what?
hey thats like one of the first discord gif i favorited, so long ago
Okay
wtf its a gif that’s scary
It’s a friend
Like this one
That’s corn

thats corrin
shut
Shut the fuck up
i know him from smash
corn
Delete your message before he sees it
7 hours
Gotta be honest, I am fine with byleth in smash
no shoes must be bad in a battle
i love her, she's an icon, she's a legend and she is the moment
||Cai||
OMG summer game fest is today!🥳
Kirb I stg
I play silksong, for, wait, why do I want silksong
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all clown thing is so annoying and forced lmao
Tammo look at this
Corn, the buff corn
It's not what you think it is I swear
FUCK YOU
Silksong FT. Ariana Grande
Tammo
No
"Araña"means spider in spanish so, makes sense
tammo unironically using a Corrin pfp? impossible
ofc featuring her hit single:
God is a Weaver
He has to endure the torment he subjected me to for a full 30 days
Aval 
Also
Ttacco, what’s with the OUR SIDE HAS TO WIN thing?
Ttaco what side are you supporting?
Ttaco supports his side
It literally says in the name
our side has to win, i dont get whats hard to comprehend
I support taco then cause then it’s going to win
remember its HAS to win, meaning the DESIRE to win
omg 1 react then we are half way there 
not the guaranteed ness of it
Cursed
DONT LET PK SEE THIS
Agreed
PK fire?
No, pale knight
Sans, actually
same thing
Lucas is cooler then ness, change my mind
Tonight ? Or not ?
Yes
Yes

Wait, is this spreading miss information cause I am not answering and just saying yes
Guys
Are the two sides ‘our side’ and ‘their side’?
I’m getting banned
Yes
Which side are you?
THEIR SIDE HAS TO WIN
(Or whatever I don’t really care which side wins)
Our side has to win
i agree
Time to put on my Funnny clown goggles and expect silksong for the game fest
In this message
How did Zal do that where it automatically changes the time depending on which timezone you are in?
yesyes but dont put clown emojis in the chat
that's the only way I know of
yeah i dont care about emojis, just doing the funny internet thing where im once again expecting a CRUMB of information for silksong. i don't care about release dates. i just want to confirm its existence like with the Cuphead DLC
Hmmmmm
ehlp
cat
cat hair everywhere
and leg hurt 
Reeves what happened, zerks cat found you in his wall?
is there a inside joke here, why is there a pikachu sticker in a triangle strategy server? 
Should DM that to my alt 
Eat the cat and the hair go away
no
cat of mine
Eat yourself and the cat go away
i just had the calmest slowlest claw scratch ever
just slowly while laying, cat put paw on my arm and slowly made it come down and to the side while scratching me
reev’s cat 
like just one claw was actually out enough to scratch me, one calm, slow, scratch
