#sk-discussion
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It’s impossible to break into team cherry facility
What's worse is that they could've made Dreamers necessary, but they made WD not having to be beaten for it to appear in pantheons
That the motivation of getting Void Heart to contain the Radiance or use the void to attack her feels more interesting.
let's be real here,the only reason why silksong will never release is bcz hollow knight is so expensive that they don't have to work on a sequel to earn money
The motivation is literally the same though?
You dont need void heart to contain radiance?
Evening SS Discussion-ers
You do get VH to kill Rad is EtV so what are you taling about ?
they have buckets of cash
that happened at least once
That sweet juicy 5 dollars!
Contain successfully though? Right?
at least 
If the void is unified the Radiance never escapes from The Knight right?
I don’t know if you know this, but hollow knight was massively successful
I don't see how VH would make you emotionless
No lmao, not how it works
ehhhhhhh
regardless you cant contain Rad
I see
void heart doesn’t make you a hollow vessel

Pffft
@supple depot why would you post that
I don't know what you mean
I played it for 83 hours,most of the time I was stuck in king's pass so I never discovered anything really about the game

Anyway gn
Erm
goodnight, Jamie
Made sprite go into my nose 
that…doesn’t mean the game didn’t sell well?
like shit sold millions of copies
They are not hurting for cash in any way
well, I still think Godhome endings are just more like fun "what if?" scenarios
Ofc I know that the game sold well
It's a joke

What if the radiance never existed?
also it keeps going on sales to make more people buy it
Would PK and White lady never have kids? 
They would rule eternal
Also sorry Joker, I didn't think that really counted as nsfw
they might have wanted to have actual kids, but since it seems they can live forever they dont really need succesors
"no vessels?"
Wait did anyone rember the fanon name we made for PK WL kids ?
Vessels aren’t and are their kids
No
I wasn’t there
pale whities
50%
well,they are made out of void and an outer shell
so "no Vessels" 
#sk-discussion is turning into #hk-lore



hi everyone
If only I could say it's the first time it happened
It’s lore, but actually cool
Hello there
hey
hello fortnit player
They are still very similar to them(ignoring the endless void part)
so you can technically count them as kids?
Erie 
The un-wanted kids
reeve 
also we have silksong lore discussions, so we still are somewhat a lore channel
wawa
White lady wanted them while Pale king chose to do an abortion after birth
Yeah, basically they're not dead and not only the outer shell is Wyrm+Root
If we try to send a ss related lore message in #hk-lore we get told off
Because technically there is no lore about ss
"fuck child support"
i got sent threats for not like jojo 💀
check your dms
Brainless kids
I like jojo, but need to finish it
anyway... is anyone confused about the lore I want to talk about HK lore rn
I feel like white lady would try to name their child something while pk would just name it “waste of space”
Imagine if silksong had difficulty option's
I don’t like going into lore, I like more making headcannons and theory crafting
WL seems to care like 10x less about their kids as PK did
Silksong Assist Mode would be cool af
silksong will have news sgf theres still a chance!
Then don't, simple
silksong battle royal
they won't be in sgf
PK: "Sadge died from regret my life is die my kids are die"
WL: "bruh lol idc anyway yeah kinda sadge they're dead but like ok"
TC realized that people like battle royals so now they just made a silksong battle royal where the strongest character is strangely sherma
theres a chance
No
i would 100% play a hollow knight battle royale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMnWiXuseqc
this was needed
In this video, I provide 9 self-empowering affirmations for obsessed Silksong fans to provide guidance and help cope with the wait. Stay strong, friends.
Shoutouts to @Chaktis for creating the Clownet boss skin!
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also i would 100% play a rain world battle royale
Yeah, they're always a chance, it's just very, very, very low
I’m at 5% 
We all know SGF stands for
Silksong
Game
Forever
mfw WL says she only felt "some shame" whereas PK is described as having felt "great shame" and fuckin' offed himself
why have I seen this video been posted like 10 times here
Yes
some shame she had
imagine that someone goes into a coma bcz of silksong release
theres nothing that could contradict my statement
Okay without the radiance, would pale king be a good dad?
no because days aren't a thing in HK 
oh you fixed the typo
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I doubt he would even have kids
probably not
probably
he says hes not exactly sure and that he thinks they were hit by the pandemic
theres still a chance
there isn’t
I mean I didn't wanted to talk about PoP cutscene but...
It just won't be there
PK would be a baller dad wtf are you talking about
Weekly trips to Home Depot to look at their stock (for no particular reason)
there is
team cherry won't make a full silksong update this fast
... Hi joker... How's it going
No matter what
It just doesn’t say that slowmode is on, on my phone
actually yeah we do have that scene from ||spoiler||
Joker at how many Slymeters by ages is your life going ?
i'm back
You were gone?
hey we had reasons, my dad wanted to build a second bathroom, only took 10 years
you do know that they could just say that so they could surprise us plus they could have some other stuff behind the scenes but dont want them leaked
is it good
obligatory "Hi Back, I'm Cookie" joke
Silksong will release when this phone fixes itself
no
Okay
food
i was expecting this
It just won't bruh
Wait for 2023-2024
In this day society you can’t say I’m insert something, without someone saying the joke don’t you dare do it
Fatherless behavior
Hornet is parentless
but theres nothing saying that silksong will 100% not be at sgf
honestly TC could still pull a "wyrms don't die" card
She has nothing left in Hallownest
Very Sad indeed
i'm gonna go away again, hi cookie
That's why I think she will stay on Pharloom if it's a sequel and she doesn't die
85% it wont minimum
I’m at 3%
matpat:
(:
we see PK’s corpse
we can dream nail his corpse
In a guards dream
Or maybe she'll just become a traveller idk
irrelevant
That's his brother!!!
sus
that is the real white palace
it was merely a prop
i mean we also see his zeroth corpse
Im sorry Joker
A time traveler
No they can’t... 
One of the only times saying "irrelevant" is actually true
What does he say tho
I mean it would go against a lot of things
The corpse we see in White Palace is Blackwyrm actually, PK's brother
No cost too great
…
do yall think that team cherry will pull a botw 2 last second?
You can’t delay something that has been given no release date
They are twins
(I don't even know what you're talking about but I'm guessing it's a shadow drop ?)
No cost too great.
No mind to think.
No will to break.
No voice to cry suffering.
Born of God and Void.
You shall seal the blinding light that plagues their dreams.
You are the Vessel.
You are the Hollow Knight
Pale King will then be the final boss of Silksong
So true bestie
If you say it in #hk-lore you’ll get beat up
Wow got thumbs down, I see you cai, I see you
yeah

Because I don't want Silksong to add new characters and ideas, I want it to be just stuff that is unsurprising, old and I know already
Ian stop drinking Gulka Venom
No
All characters from HK should return in SS
No
The more characters are old instead of new the better
this is what math addiction does to people, beware
even the dead ones
prequel
Yes! They just looked dead
"Do you want to seal the plague"
"No"
end credits starts playing
We don't actually see Quirrel die, maybe he was kidnapped like Hornet
you know ghosts are a thing in HK right ?
no like with botw 2 they said something simple and quick saying it will be delayed till 2023
There's another carriage to carry Quirrel. He's important because he's nice
he beat the shit out of uumuu
Quirrel never dies, he lives on, in are hearts, I think
You can’t delay something that has been given no release date
they have no reason to say that since they never made premature statements regarding release
Well I mean they probably won't actually say a real release date before they're ready
What about 2028
Honestly Uumuu is a pushover
Geoff is wrong about Covid btw, he knows jack shit
Better this than starting to be fond of ridiculously long and colorful socks
what
TC has never said the game would come out in 2022 so there's zero reason for them to say it won't
Who's Jack shit
People are getting angry
Yeah we cant for sure say theyre dead, maybe theres some unknown power in the HK universe that could be seen as, well, a pathway to many abilitys that some may consider to be unnatural, who knows
im talking about the update part like a quick update yk
it would be funny if the tiny update was a release date
Hk is like a good book, people can't stop arguing about it
We should just calm down, I’m at 1% so I might leave at any moment
and I would 100% let them do that
no like an update or status on the game or just a small update
An insidish joke, don't worry about it
how would you stop them 
the day silksong releases is when all of the hollow knight community will destroy the world
"Hey guys, we are alive and still making Silksong" isn't a very helpful update is it. People would just get more pissed off.
People in Hallownest don't die, they respawn outside of Hallownest
And can't enter again
letting them out of their office
no, but quantifiable information would be helpful. a tweet literally takes 5 minutes.
I stole their sinks
stop. bootlicking.
it would be better than nothing
They are like gamers, they set their spawn points outside hallownest
quantifiable information is not necessarily something they can or want to share
Ian you're actually making me lose my last 4 braincells with your jokes
Assuming they have quantifiable information
Serr in ss-disc now?
This have actually become lore
they don't after nearly 2 years? you seriously think that?
Proud of myself
I shouldnt have done the summoning ritual for the lore people
You can't exactly say "we're 97% finished on the game", programming progress isn't easy to quantify, if that's what you meant
Even if they do they might not want to tweet about it
not what i meant
Quick question: does the unity update help this in anyway?

I hate discussing about if they should or not give updates, I'm out (I was going anyways, don't let me fool you)
then that's on them for not grasping optics. not us.

them saying something that we already know might aswell be them saying nothing
its funny how i can post random emojis and noone is like ???
marginally. it at least reaffirms that the game's still being developed.
Team cherry will release the game and information when they feel like it 
it's not "on" anybody, it's a perfectly fine decision for them to make
If anything it would be worse
I don't want more Silksong information if it's not a release date
no, it isn't. even the Cuphead developers are better at PR.
Okay, because I more or less saw it as what you’re looking for.
how much to share during development is just TC's decision, they have no obligation
and i dont want to talk to you
We have enough silksong information
I mean what do you expect TC to say ?
Don't you?
now explain to me why you're holding this double standard.
A whole doc full of silksong information
this is an actual common sentiment and giving more news outside of that would start alienating the community
what double standard
Thats like TC tweeting "btw were making a game called silk song", is that better then nothing? Is that new and exciting information?
Good for the Cuphead developers ig
what obligation does TC have to disclose quantifiable information
Why woudnt you want to talk to Ian!
Jesus guys, stop dog piling 
Make a cohesive argument first.
Ian is an amazing, wonderful person to talk to
were still working on and the voice actor done with her part and that they wanna show us soon
Won’t get an answer if you all are hurling 100 questions at a time.
note: "I want quantifiable information" and "TC should disclose quantifiable information" and "TC are incompetent for not disclosing quantifiable information" are very different
Why don't you try coping
I mean when people come in here unnecessarily hostile and start flinging arguments, I think we can know how constructive it’s going to be in the first place, shal
also hey, haven’t seen you here in a while
enjoying the stay?
in fact, he was not
No I just got told to try coping lol
Fuck you
not saying they are incompetent. i'm saying that they're failing to grasp how optics/PR can change in response to lack of information.
no fuck you
Can everyone please calm down, please?
😭
That was me!
i am calm everyone else is tweakin
tf happened here

it's not a priority at the moment, and there's not really anything indicating that it would be in their interest to make it a priority
this place is funny
The game is not falling into obscurity by any measure
its stupid to watch
brb gonna go to twitter
mfw someone says “tc could make a simple tweet saying we’re working on SS” and people start giving shit. Wew 🥴
(If it wasn't already obvious that and the few messages before it were all ironic)
especially when a lot of lore peoples go here
TC did the marketing and publicizing earlier than most devs do which is a bit weird but hey it worked
Well, we know they are still working on it
when people from other parts enter
no come back
what do you have against milk
There's a difference between wanting new information, which is not unreasonable, and suggesting that TC is obligated to do so. Also, that tweet would be meaningless.
it tastes bad
all tweets are meaningless now
you taste bad
Wrong. Not meaningless. Would it provide new info? No, but people don’t necessarily want new info, they just want to hear anything from TC
The day ss-disc is worst than Twitter haven’t happened yet, and I fear for the day it happens...
Why
they did that twice in like February and April
We already know they're working on SS
murder
I can confirm, Joker tastes bad.
wheres the unity awards article where TC said theyre working on the game
I’m not one of those people, I can’t necessarily answer that
I could find it
i forgor 💀
we can end that argument with it
Silksong coming out soon
there was also that pcgamer thing in feb
Look, they're still making the game! Wow, awesome! Discussion over
photoshoped npt real fake loser ez bozo 🥱 (not real!)
Good thing TC mentioned that, I was starting think it was cancelled.
"We're still working steadily on it, and we're all looking forward to sharing more about it once we get closer to release."
Wait, it isn't cancelled?
We had a lore talk, the sound of lore summoned lore peoples, but then the subject changed to TC, and them not giving much news, which is never a good subject to be talking about when lore peoples are here, unfortunate turn of event...
The hills are alive with the sound of lore
TC gave a lot of news and that news was clearly enough to cement it in the minds of the fans. That's what news is for.
These "lore people" sound like a weird bunch, good thing we're not part of that group eh Reeves?
So true Jeeves
i started it without tryna start it 😭
what happened
Jeeves, where's Wooster
im sweeping your entire location with airstrikes! 😱
NOO
Also, don't you think it's pretty interesting how ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6pbjksYUHY
Ha, you actually do ! It's such a :skissue:, Good thing I'm not part of Lore peeps
Somebody cast Confusion in the channel and a lot of people failed their wis saves
Nice try
Fuck
1 SILKSILLION COPIES SOLD
Sorry but I won't click that till I'm sure it's not a RickRoll
"it seems they can live forever"
WL getting blind due to old age and PK just being straight dead sure seems to indicate that 
speaking of Jeeves and Wooster
may I offer chat some music in these trying times 
PK didn't die from old age tho

I would enjoy some music
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https://open.spotify.com/track/5ZfgbRJ5av8j1Wy9vnd3oB?si=464b75abe241440f probably recommended before but in case someone here hasn't heard it
PK likely had an indefinite lifespan given he planned to rule for a literal eternity. And WL suffering from old age could be a side-effect of her being bound, though that's neither here nor there.
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Well, It's not really like there is any precedent for gods being immortal in HK
but there is for having indefinite natural lifespans
(drakengard 3 - five's song)
https://youtu.be/xonC5ytwOQk
How so? That's exactly what I was referring to.
alright chat it's almost 2 AM, I sleep now
lord of shades, rad, nmh all definitely have indefinite lifespans

And standing across this barren wasted land
I fell new life Will be bORN BETWEEN THE BLOOD STAINED SAAAAAAAAAAAAND


Gn unique
When someone fails it’s like way funnier than if you actually managed to spoiler it, just like that guy who sent an image which was supposed to be a fake spoilered image, with a « you’ve been gnomed » in discord dark mode color, so that’s it only shows when you try to click the spoiler, but the image wasn’t png so everything that was supposed to be transparent as just painfully white which made it impossible to fall for, but really funny
Also go beddy, Unique 
There is. Radiance will live for as long as she's remembered. Nightmare Heart will live forever as long as the ritual is carried out. PK straight up says "Eternity in promise..." when speaking about the Vessel project and Unn has been around for forever (with no mention of her being in the process of dying or whatever). Void has no concept of mortality and that means LoS is probably truly immortal. That's every HB except WL.
Me when Light Mode user:
light mode gang
well except for when it's 2 AM obviously
Aren’t your eyes dying?
(hey aren't you supposed to be sleeping?)
gn Unique
Light mode users trying to not die after opening discord after waking yp
It’s alright 😔
ther
Oh wow, neat
Well, first of all
Lord of Shades is no precedent, we don't know how long it can live, it would probably also help it's not really a physical, natural being
Radiance is likewise not a living, physical being, she exists within Dreams, and there is some reason to believe she will die when she is forgotten
Unn is weakening, to the point where she mostly sleeps, who's to say this won't lead to her eventual death?
Nighmare Heart is a wrong example here. It has to complete the ritual to remain alive. That means it's not immortal 
immortal and indefinite lifespan are different
This reminds me, I can finally see that struggle-tweet sword sent yesterday, since it’s in light mode it was too bright for me to see when he sent it late at night yesterday 
nobody is saying PK was immortal, he died
I am assuming 'immortal' to be 'cannot die of natural causes'
He is almost immortal
his natural lifespan was probably indefinite otherwise basically nothing he said makes sense
every hollow knight enemy is immortal as long as you sit on a bench
what is this kardashev scale crap
Unn has been sleeping since before Quirrel came to Hallownest and judging by her interactions with the Mosskin (or lack thereof) it can be assumed she was sleeping since before PK even got to the place. In any case, she was considered ancient when Hallownest was prosperous and the kingdom has been in ruin for longer than it was prosperous. As far as we can tell her weakening had absolutely nothing to do with age.
she's also not indicated to be getting weaker as opposed to just being dormant ("sleeping god")
Unn has canonically been “sleeping” *dormant for as long as greenpath has existed
isn't it that her dreams made greenpath
Yeah
She wouldn't have needed to be asleep to produce the mosskin from her dream
woah wait
He fixed it
"What strength thee once possessed fades beyond time and tune" - Godseeker about Unn
Wait when is that said ? She's getting weaker lately but what do you mean ?
unn is dream??
Unn uses a cheat to retake Greenpath from Rad and kick WL out
That just means her weakening is probably irreversible, not that age caused it. If anything it would suggest the contrary since her strength fades "beyond time" (i.e. time alone would not cause her to regain her strength).
Yeah this is what I was referring to when I said "her interactions with the Mosskin (or lack thereof)"
She’s probably been wearing a mask for hours at a time sleeping for a while
Unn has seemingly never been an active political figure, within the area and with the mosskin
or just chillin yknow
That doesn't say she's been dormant since Greenpath was made ?
not really a solid argument but HK's general message of nothing lasting forever would fit pretty well with 'gods' not being immortal
It implies she’s been hidden in her hole for as long as the mosskin remember, until whatever the “call to return” is supposed to be.
Gods don't have to die of old age, the fall of PK's "eternal" kingdom and his eventual demise are probably the best example of that
I’m no longer at 0% (4%) what I miss
Unns documented actions are literally:
-creating greenpath and it’s denizens
-being tucked away.
And there’s reference to her absence in general - though potentially especially recently.
Still lore discussion I see
And getting up to give you one Charm before going back to bed in her lovely acid bath
comfy bath


“Oh look it’s a protagonist. Better wake up after a thousand years”
Every “dormant god of x” in every videogame
True!
Mostly Zelda gods
i think she just wanted to give someone the funny charm
she was doing some lakekeeping and needed to dispose of it
Don’t we almost never see the zelda gods
aside from hylia in ss zelda and like…the oracle games?
The Golden Goddesses are always absent
I guess there are the goddess statues in botw as well
Silksong Zelda 
Zelda 2 even
Shit like that guy
True
And also the SS dragons
fair
Hey, regarding the previous conversation. A tip for people who want to cry about TC, wait for Tammo to leave chat.
Tammo has had that argument 2394 times already
But tammo is always watching
TC sucks why can't they just give us SS
I honestly admire the patience
I’m surprised he hasn’t up and left the server
To have the same argument so many times
sothis
Because burnt marshmallows taste better than brown ones
Tammo I summon you, if you're here react with
to this message 
who the hell is sothis
Sam! 
Sothis
sothis deez-
Sothis was a bit different (fe3houses)
Hey Lily 
You summoned me with 
Oh…fire emblem. Cool
Tonio is "sweet" how you taste like ?
i honestly forgot what happened even tho ive watched that opening part a million times
Gonna ping you in the Fire Emblem thread now
Look the adjective was given to me by Ian
Very surprising, I know
Yeah I thought so, but I wonder if you also taste sweet
No I don’t
idol, idol
I’m just a sweet jester
i love the new fortnite season
Well that’s random
SeaSon discussion
Not as Random as Jevil's attacks
the duck attack tho
You cracked the code
nah because its just kinda of a victory season
I hate the new Fortnite Season, when will Epic Games actually put some effort into an update again?
:skissue:
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What's Fortnite
fortnite d-
We haven't seen a good Fortnite update in years
A game that’s only good when there is no building
Oh cool, so Hollow Knight?
which was its main twist
don't
your forgetting that they literally just did a good quality live event
So this means we agree about Godhome ending being bad right?
No
Yes
no builds chapter 3 many others
Events are not very interesting tbh
Well, no, but actually yes, but actually no
I’m sorry, you are amazing Ian, but I have to disagree here
Also, I didn't play Fortnite ever
Ian you're absolutely right. I could not agree more. EtV is absolute garbage and I will support you in that view.
Talking about lore scares me tbh
yeah
I don't like being laughed at
fortnite lore > any lore 🥱
LoS in silksong is awesome
PTSD from when archimedes stepped in
Let’s talk about headcannon, like hornetxla- gets shot by five different people
anyway let's talk about EtV
no I'm serious I'd like to know your viewpoints on Godhome in general
(kinda talking to everyone but mostly directed to Ian)
i hate all endings equally
all endings hate you equally
would be fine if an ending wasn’t locked behind p5
nice it's mutual
It's not terrible, but it's absolutely no replacement for any of the other endings
remember: fortnite lore started because a reddit user found a bug

And I don't like the idea of it being even considered for Silksong
And Fortnite lore ends now. no F*rtnite allowed here.
It’s an intresting ending, ignoring its flaws, it shows that the knight gained enough power to kill the radiance without entering thk mind
Wahr
tbf that wasn't a conveniently timed coincidence at all
fortnite lore isnt ending anytime soon they still gotta find genos
Again, my problem with Godhome ending is purely narrative
embrace the P5
Nobody will laugh at you except for Joker
And Silksong-related, this is #sk-discussion, no Silksong talking here
silk song is a myth
JoJoker wouldn’t laugh at Ian
Ah so it won't hurt
yes it is a disaster in that capacity (and in all other capacities)
etv is a hot mess
Let’s stop talking about hollow knight lore in this channel
This actually allows us to talk about HK lore without the restrictions of #hk-lore

Like, the story of The Knight's adventure in Hallownest. With EtV ending, The Knight tosses aside what seems like several plot points, helps this bug for reasons unknown to us and lacks justification as to why The Knight would do this.
Just petition to get the restrictions removed
Like, I Imagine fighting empowered Radiance in Godhome is a much more risky approach than fighting weak Radiance in the Black Egg
Basically: "TC why didn't you make Dreamers required !"
But you can't lose in Godhome, you don't die if you fail
it's not, but TK had little way of knowing that it could get to her through godseeker until it stumbles across it
cause you made them
META COMMENTARY
like it would have to be operating on some really weird intuition for that to be in any way premeditated
He was just enjoying a little pastime of fighting people he already beaten
again, your previous point about the dreamers I believe is unfounded, for the reasons I posited before
posited
Why isn't it more risky though? It involves fighting every single boss in the game, some stronger than before and then a more powerful radiance.
dreamers surviving is very plausible
...but you can't lose cause you can't die
While going to The Black Egg involves just fighting a weaker PV and a weaker Radiance
because it's just fighting recreations of them and if it loses it just wakes up outside the pantheon door
But if The Knight can't beat The Radiance, she is already more powerful than she was before, thanks to The Knight's own actions right?
Only in Godhome pretty sure
Also in EtV THK is in a better condition.
Absrad is already at the peak of the pantheon, she can't get any higher
also it’s not the knight’s fault?
The godseekers would’ve done that regardless of our intervention
Don't they need The Knight to attune?
I mean they did needed us to fight PV
The only plus of the godseeker ending is that the hollow knight is free
pretty sure they don’t
...and it's less risky to get since you can't die
Yea
Yeah
which is better than Sealed Siblings
(I mean at least you have VH- tho wait what happends to VH once you can't hold Rad anymore?)
So now that we’re done with lore discussion, tools am I right?
tools you're wrong
Oh

Now let's hear what Ian has to say.
What day Is the summer thingy?
June 9 I think
this is #sk-discussion
i personally like screws
why am i snailed
Personally I prefer the air, wait let me look for that
Sorry but like 1997 peoples said it probably years before you

I see
At what hour Is it?
I honestly don't know about this and tbh, maybe I shouldn't focus that much on deep lore to justify disliking Godhome ending, since I'm not the most knowledgeable. I don't really want to discuss the purpose of the Godtuner and if The Knight is needed or not, I was assuming there was some sort of consensus about this. Anyways, as I said before, it's narratively that I don't like the ending. It just seems like going on a weird tangent, introducing tons of new complicated elements to the story and ending in much less satisfying and direct way.
You guys still discussing lore?
are you sure
everyone make this most snailed message
how can one person like screws this much
Screws are cool
Wait you're actually the first one to say it in the server-
caiozo keeps stealing other’s people catch phrases 
The story (not the lore) of Hollow Knight is much less satisfying and effective if the ending is reached via EtV
Oh no everyone started typing
we were talking about Lore, you're in #sk-discussion I remind you
Next he Is going to Hi everyone how are you doing?

Lore wise EtV still sucks
Silksong is hornet dreaming while being in the black egg after SS (the anagrams match)
I know where I am
That’s what I do
And don't get me started on fucking Godseeker mode
But again, I am not talking about lore.
I made a list of reasons why EtV>DnM
Idc it's wrong
I don't doubt how consistent with the lore Godmaster can be, I just think it's stupid narratively.
Oh yeah its unforgivable to desviate the conversation in ss+discussion
godseeker mode is such a cohesive and lore friendly concept
It's not consistent whatsoever and yes, it is also stupid narratively
You don't make the channels rules, #sk-discussion is for lore talk
oh heeeeelo sharky
Lore conversation 
hello eterna
actually imagine how funny it would be if it turned out to be this
Fuck EtV, all my homies hate EtV
Assuming there's no contradictions and everything makes sense, it still is a very weird way for the story to go. That's all.
All my homies, wait I don’t have homies
DNM 😎
uhm I have no idea what’s the context behind what’s Ian is talking about, but if Godmaster related thing is being called dumb, I’ll agree
EtV is the best ending, it's the only one where THK is """fine"""
This is what happens when the devs are done with a game and add a cliffhanger for no reason other than to get people talking
(hornet dlc)
(yes, I included the "you died" ending)
Rule 97:no TC criticism
At that point they already knew Hornet DLC was gonna be its own game. TC was done with HK and it shows, also given how rushed Godmaster was and how much was actually cut.
this is actually important
anyone here have twitter
ignored so sadge
Ah well who cares
no i don't sorry
Yes...?
Outside jokes i think godhome may have been thought as an extra content kinda thing
One I made just to use tier list maker
i have i think
Thanks Perukas
That's literally all it was, TC didn't care about lore or narrative when designing Godmaster. They just wanted to add in a boss rush mode.
Will do a Twitter Spaces about #summergamefest in 2 hours to answer questions! https://t.co/OjoIeoD8wJ
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It was for a single tier list, that i didn’t even get a chance to share with the people when I wanted to share it with
enjoy
I only made a Twitter to be able to check for Environmental Station Alpha and Rain World updates once in a blue moon
Without the annoying "please log in" stuff
So yeah everyone who thinks EtV sucks for whatever reason is absolutely correct and I can say this with 100% certainty.
I would have preferred it if boss rush didn't make sense lore wise
The endings are endings
Or if they did something like Sekiro, which is like, barely connected, but unimportant
Mood
I have one
Either way bye everyone
Goodbye friend
or just didn't have an ending associated
Ah yes, that makes sense too
Make Godhome be a completely isolated dream realm with no consequences in Hallownest
if you could join that and ask about silksong that’d be great
ara asked me and I was gonna reset my twitter password but
That would have been fine
I'm not asking about silksong but I'll listen
yeah thatd be better, i still like the godseekers stuff
They could still have made Godseeker lore with some adjustments
it’s twitter fuck that
Sounds familiar doesn't it
WILL THERE BE SILKSONG GEOFF
the suspense is keighleyng me
Maybe make godhome the radiance,s hive mind that you access by dreamnailing the radiance or smthing
"Dear Geoff, what's all the games that you will reveal?"
not especially
I lost discord because of 2fa not forgetting shif
Ok JoOker
Not sure I like this idea, sorry
Like,you even have an scripted moment after phase 1 where you could do it
You mean I have to fight Radiance to get into Godhome?
I mean Rad is the only thing that is actually "real" in Godhome, and have consequences to Hallownest, and there is a lore reason for that tho you probably don't care
Yes, the giant tuners thing, and making a bridge with THK and yadda yadda
silksong confirmed
How do you even talk to Geoff
killing absrad wouldn't have to kill Rad for real
Yeah
Its an attempt to make it Fit into the lore,not that deep tbh
Is there a queue
Everything is real in Godhome! The Dream Expanse is a real place.
An example of overcomplicated stuff that makes the ending less appealing
Hence why I said "real" in quotation marks
NMH
You can only speak if you open it through the mobile app 
yeah web twitter only allows you to listen to it
Doesn't have consequences for Hallownest
ok then I'm not asking
I have mobile Twitter open but im not asking or joining it HUE HUE HUE
huehuehue
the most recent question was 100% silksong bait
they asked about 3rd party nintendo games
I mean if it didn't it wouldn't change much for the "story" as Ian said
I just... care about worldbuilding and stories, not the tiny little details associated with lore or deciphering the possible ways that the magic systems like the dream realm or lifeblood could possibly work
Some stuff I'm very happy to not understand how it works
Good
There are a lot of things in HK that aren't connected to lore, Godhome is a weird outlier and I don't understand why it is
yooo they said it
HE ASKED IT
Nobody asked for a lore-accurate boss rush mode
Another W
He’s just saying the same shit
ok that's as much of a deconfirmation as you can get
L
yep he said the same thing
Fuck
is there a stream we're supposed to be watching rn
he changed subject to Cuphead tho
ITS A PRERECORDED GEOFF BOT
Does this mean SS won't be at indie world
DAMN THIS WORLD
he thinks that they’ll say it when they are close to release
Do you really think that?
Guys I think Geoff is lying to us
no
this must mean SGF is close to release
I don't think that at all
I don't either
not really
that's a sick ass bug that's what it is
he's got a falcon mask on
something charging and trying to bite you
my theory reigns supreme
Superior enemy design 
yeah I remember you talking about that
wrong
cool theory
nope
yeah falcon mask!
Sorry for bad English but where were you on june 5th 2022 2:13 when geoff deconfirmed silksong appearance on Twitter dot com AGAIN
Last Judge is good he has Void eyes
not void eyes, he's just liberally oiled
thats a banger design wdym
Last judge seems weird
These look like step ups from HK designs
yeah idk how that's inferior
Fun fact the first time I saw this I thought the teeth were eyes and the legs were daggers
I was at house eating dorito when phone ring
do you think last judge worked out to get that fit
best of all
I fucking hate crabs
last judge skipped leg day
Revert into crabhood
wait you mean those aren't eyes
Hornet skipped all days
this bug
They're teeth. The "mask" is actually an open mouth. Eyes are the big balls on the sides of the head. It's a 4-legged beast with a hood.
was anyone here when the lamp cult existed
For the longest time I thought those were like, headphones
I swear this Silksong designs are so much cooler
yes
Thanks Gelato for making me think about how the designs are more interesting
these guys calling me old when archimedes is right here
Arch 
That was like, 6 months ago right?
more like a year and 6 months 
I would have missed it then
Ian 
But I remember something last year around November time
No that was the other cult
oh yeah the enemy and especially boss designs in Silksong seem a lot more refined and polished than in HK
Yeah I really like THK's redesign
Here’s the take, silksong design is the step forward… to the wrong direction
Pukebug my beloved
Didn't think THK would be a boss though
indeed the take
Where’s my tomatoes
I don't like tomatoes that much, you can have mine if you want
Blackwyrm's design is awesome
Now we're talking
The fact that tomatoes of all foods is so fucking controversial is mind-boggling
Like, it's not a very strong flavor
Also anyone have GOOD scary stories playlists to share or am I forever stuck with “Im a Search and rescue officer” series
I don't hate tomatoes
to be fair, search and rescue is some good shit
Tomatoes are the best thing mankind has invented
I'd reread that any day
tomato is like A tier salad
It’s peaked and I need another high
in my experience people usually dislike the texture and not the taste
are ppl aware there's like 100s of types of tomatoes and they can have very different consistency and taste?
But tomatoes are so pleasantly wet
True
They are f r e s h
idk just scroll through nosleep at like 4 am
well yeah i love tomatoes I could just bite whole chunks off of them raw
The worst thing is when you leave salad on the table and come back like 4 hours later and it's fucking disintegrating
but some people dislike the wetness
I like a good crunchy tomato
They probably like eating sand or something
I always prefer a crisp fruit over a juicy fruit
celeste
Omg Erie!
Im alone with no direction to good stories 
Why don't people do this
Have you tried roasted tomatoes?
Roasted tomatoes are great
mm, not as standalone
Put half a tomato flesh down into a hot metal-something for a while and it'll become something delicious
I do like just slicing a big slab of tomato and putting it on butter toast
Ain't now way that's what it's called (offtopic)
@coarse leaf this you?
yes
awesome
what the fuck
What? 
Is that a weird thing?
rat lake 😨
roasted tomato sounds disgusting considering i also hate normal tomatoes
although maybe its like cooking raw chicken
Phew, that's a relief then
regardless i will not try it
if you never done this, you had no childhood:
be born
prove it
Of course, I will post a pic of your face, dear <your irl name>
reminds me of :moment:
i guess this is a new pokemon from Scarlet and Violet?
Maybe because Erie drew :moment:...
its name is Lechonk
:moment: lore
unironically
i love Lechonk
Hey, silksong was said to be released in June, right?
no
placeholder date
damn, i heard somewhere that it was speculated to be released this month
ah, ok
speculated yes
well yeah you can speculate it to release whenever you want 
i speculate it to release now
Speculate this ratio
good job, you were wrong
what does ratio mean? ive heard it a bunch but have no clue what it is
I speculate it will release tomorrow
basically, we have no clue when it could release
it's from twitter, when a reply gets more likes than the original post
true
true
accurate
False
I can't really tell in the trailer and gameplay footage but will Hornet be knocked back from nail (needle) strikes? Maybe they just made it as if you always had steady body on.

Thank god. And I did but couldn't tell. I'm one of the few people who actually finds getting knocked back by attacking fun
Quick question:
Any news?
No
Quick answer:
No
great
Long answer yes, but actually no
the trixter
No Silksong at summer game fest if you count that as news.
Long answer:
n o
There has been news over the past 4 years
an answer: they're working on the game
Am I wrong
yes
I just want to play as hornet im sobbing
Hornetsong
Don’t worry, it will come out in our lifetime
You just might be an old person when we play it
what if I'm gonna die in 2 weeks
figure out mods, enable "silksong (but not really)"

That's so true. What if I die before Silksong comes out???
play through the game again
ive heard somewhere that every major release of hk is in february so i just pray that it will be the 2023 february and not later
then no silksong for you
F
I don’t know, maybe silksong will release on the afterlife
Steve, wake up, we’ve been waiting for you to wake up, everyone is waiting for you, that game that you were waiting for, has launched, wake up, please.
Maybe hell and heaven will have silksong
Hornetsong
That'd be sad
If it doesn't happen this year then next 100%. Like seriously they can't take so long to the point they go into 2024
what if i die randomly
It can happen
That'd be sad
Dw i gotcha from the walls
Very sad
Hope there is an afterlife with silksong, also don’t die, you are cool
what if i die to something natural at random, i can die at any moment i will never know when 
It can happen
Hey, I want to be wrong
Anything everything and your mother is possible

yes, we could die at any moment 
SS isn't actually taking that long
moment
But we didn't yet! 
holy shit
Until Silksong comes out at least one person in the server will probably die. More actually.
Not dead yet
yeah wait for silksong or piss away $100k trying to upgrade your gear in diablo immortal right now
Isn't that a very lucky thing?
Obligatory: "Silksong really isn't taking that long at all. It's not unrealistic for a AAA title to take over 5 years to develop even though they're being produced by companies who employ hundreds of people and have access to truckloads of reusable assets. Silksong obviously isn't a AAA game, but it sure as hell looks like it's going to have the polish of one, and a game on this kinda scale taking a long time when it's only being developed by three people is kind of a given". Anyway, Silknever.
hugecomfy
dont jinx it 
Or unlucky if you are suicidal
Nah, that's luck
I hope none of you are suicidal
Either way it is luck
If so please consult the necessary therapy if you are please
this is a
bad time in the song im listening to, to play rn- 
average suicide fan and average life enjoyer
generic, suicidal life enjoyer
I wonder if Team Cherry will even apologize for the huge wait and the lack of updates.
apologize?

They don't need to apologise for anything
TELL ME!
probably not, they dont have to wtf
try not to and ideally it wont happen
You don’t deserve there apology
you're not fucking entitled to their game
Either way bye all see ya in an hour
Lmao, yeah why apologize
You aren't entitled to updates and the "huge wait" is just how long the game takes to make. They're working on it.
bad time? 😳
bye, have a nice hour
lol what
SANS????????
impatient prick
if there’s a man who can make anything, give me tools to live in the past
Sorry for not giving you the thing you didn't pay for yet as quickly as you wanted it
mgelovna
they already have 
It's not like they stopped development for 3 years to go on holiday
can you tone down the hostility
hey guys long time no see, what did you do during the last 2 hours?
played celeste
i already did
Their* And I know Jesus Christ calm down. No need to jump at me or insult me for at least wanting some updates. I don't mind the wait.
I went on a walk with my parents
absoultely nothing 🙂 thanks
nothing in particular, we've been discussing how tomatoes are great and underrated tbh
It was nice
what is with this chat and being unnecessarily rude today
i...

Shut the fuck up
nothing special
Tell me about it
sometimes not right here as a whole
This happens a lot
Yeah why is everyone so rude today
i just get upset sometimes dont mind me 
People get super triggered when anyone seems to want the game
nobody is rude, there's just a bunch of Aussies in the chat today 
Yet we are all here for that exact reason
Not realy
veally much not really
In this chat I mean
i like a few people who come here so i stay
I admit I got angry before too, regretted every single time
People aren't triggered, they're just annoyed because it's something mentioned almost daily, except for Tammo who somehow manages to always be chill
I know
I don't want to get angry about impatience or complains anymore, I contribute to the toxicity that way
man I wanna eat a pizza
i think we are going to be rewarded for waiting so long, silksong will for sure appear at the summer game festival

