#sk-discussion
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sugonthesenuts
damn that bot grabs it so low quality
haha gotten
ohohoho oh god
I just remembered something
How could I forget?
Linear transformation composition is not commutative
How could you forget that?
I don't know, but it changes everything
It makes all the difference
Or does it?
Hey, VSauce, Michael here
soggy pop corn is so underated

Oh wait
I thought you were joking but, is this a Unity thing ?
just a math thing
It is of utmost importance for my game
It's about linear transformations after all
OpenGL
Nice!
- stb_image which is a library to load textures

Hornet is not void, deal with it bozo.
I agree
agree
MMC is the hardest boss in SilkSong.
MMC, More Mslug Cats
the massive enemy moss
So... are they gonna build on the godseeker ending in silksong? Because it be a waste if they didn't
someone more smart than me can answer this
well, I don't know how it could connect into pharloom, maybe a reference, hint, or a teaser in the ending?
there’s probably gonna be very few references from what’s happened in hallownest before Silksong
and even if they don't, It's not like the entire godseeker ending is completely wasted
It be kind of dumb to have them tease the hollow knight being let lose and not doing anything with it
oh right, you mean that
And if there is, it’s probably gonna be very vague
what would the hollow knight being let loose even mean? not to start a lore discussion
I don’t think THK will be mentioned at all
how u sure
why they did the godhome ending the wy it is, i have no idea, but it doesn’t seem to tie in to Silksong at all
the truth is, silksong will begin with hornet and thk going for a walk and eating icecream
as far as I know, Silksong will start all the way away from hallownest and into pharloom, I feel like the hollow knight having a presence in the game is unlikely, but the ending of silksong might be different
||THK is a secret boss||
||Warrior Bretta is a secret boss*||
actually, a godhome ending continuation would make more sense if Silksong was still a dlc
sorry already went to bed but yeah this is a good choice
It’s ok sleep is important for knights
Maybe I need to rewatch it but in the Silksong reveal trailer I don’t think Hornet says “SHAW” once, she says everything but that if I am correct
Rewatch the treehouse video and pretend your the one playing silksong
Adidah
shaw
troshie kalimo
uhhhhh! le gaele
Git gud!
Garana!
kanalekosa tros
what’s the nicest sounding “voice” in hk?
hakana sekamos
i like nailsmith and the hunter voices
la fenufelino
sorry i was typing Hornet's voice lines
I was about to say Mask maker
he's got a chilling voice
I don’t remember it’s voice brb
Oh yeah i like it also
akala geo
I just hate her for stealing my geo
Moss Prophet is very goofy, i like it
I just realized that the only word that it's written just as it sounds it's "geo"
Most easily recognizable word in bug language
Yeah that’s weird
we all hate her don't we
I like her voice, why does she have to die later in the game :(
I'll take the free extra geo from Millibelle
Yeah, at least Millibelle is a geo source
She's useless otherwise, her bank service is awful
You can only deposit less than 2500 geo wtf
i hope there’s a quest in SS that initially goes just like millibeles, but at the end, you kill the bug, and you later discover that the bug was robbing to provide food to their kids
Why did Team Cherry even made her like that
Idk
And what happens with the children later?
you decide... 
They all ascend into [childname]flies
Like grubberflies
between abandoning them or killing them, or taking them to the huntress?
Or you feed their organs to the huntress
let them starve or end their suffering 
Huntress best option
Spiderflies 

Y e s
Silksong will taker more 3 months to launch because TC will have to add this amazing quest that ss-disc pitched
mouths?
it's all ur fault
What is that a reference to?
mouths to feed
Yes
perukas
Ok
I want to eat Silksong
It’ll be worth it
Silksong: Babysitting DLC
Hornet will take some nice babysitting tips from her dad
the dlc boss is the diaper with poo
it’s a QTE
if you want your children not to need to eat anymore just throw them to the abyss
Follow me for more parenting tips
You got to go threw with it, it'll be for the better
goodnight, i have school tomorrow too but i have no self love to sleep early
ok hear me out
so theres this extremely difficulty Silksong boss fight
but around their arena lies the Spear of the Great Sentinels
then you must equip it and use its ability "The Pale Hunt"
which will kill it in like 10 attacks
they could give a boss an instakill AOE too
Never underestimate Youtube's ability to spoil entire games 2.01 nanonseconds after they come out, thanks to "[game] all bosses hitless" videos with the thumbnail being the final boss
I'd like to thank Shirrako for putting the final boss in the thumbnail and spoiling it for me
seriously though c'mon it's not that hard to put a non-spoilery thumbnail
I had another video of final boss + ending recommended to me but the thumbnail was just a picture of an in-game landscape
so I was saved in that instance
shirakko is also a cunt
hes one of those capital g gamers that posts about the fall of video g ames due to politics etc
the boss in the thumbnail catches more attention and that’s all they care really
oh that channel, I definitively seen some of its thumbnails
going to sleep after that one, gn y’all 
I lost bit of my hype after waiting so long and playing other games. I need it back
Does silksong have a release date now?
no
Oky
love the pfp
ss whenn sigh
Thanks
who is sigh and why are you asking them?

damn, look what I found
i'm a masochist, i will force tc to release it in 2024 if they try to release before
That aged spectacularly
indeed it did
Also hello Regular Human, been a while I think 

yes, I left the server for a bit
Welcome back
yes, I left here because all the release talk got me so depressed that I left
now the question is...
will I regret coming back
mustkets
so does 55
Silksong in 55 A.D. 
i want Silksong arena duels
PVP silksong
its like ah ero shooter
but it not overwatch
because overwatch fucking sucks
wait.. it all makes sense now
silksong will release in 2222
ah, hk22
the 22nd hollow knight game
They should've made it yearly
And also release it one year early
like HK23 comes out in 22 and so on
yeah, but probably late 91122
early is too optimistic
so this means that silksong is going to be an EA sports game
No
sprots
EA Sprouts
Please no
series about a sprout mole commiting tax evasion
someone make that a meme
I just went back to this chat during tga
we sure said things...
Hk 47
so, we turning HK into an annual franchise, something like assassin's creed?
Remember when we said February 2020
remember when we said mid 2019
Remember when we thought it was a dlc
remember when Godhome didn't exist and HK was the perfect Metroidvania
Ahhh when people had their sanity
bad take :(


Don’t most metroidvanias have boss rushes?
Are they mandatory for completion in most other metroidvanias as well
And as unforgiving like come on 42 bosses what on earth
Are there endings hidden behind them in other Metroidvanias?
It’s still a well designed boss rush it’s just a pain in the ass for completionists
at least the really hard stuff like the bindings and radiant mode are not required for completion
metacritic is bad these days
especially the user reviews
a lot of people bomb it for games with wtv controversy theyre having
Has hollow knight ever had a major controversy?
best part is if the guy hasnt played it but just gave it a 0/10 worst game ever because a hit youtuber said its a testament why western civilization is falling
i can think of one but it might not be true
certain characters not being void
i think the closest "controversy" we got is like
again these are very far stretched
the acknowledgement of fans whos been ignored overall (which may or may not be related to Silksong news) with "They could at least like the fanbase's fanart when they celebrated the anniversary" or some shit
Being silent on the charm glorification being cut
Them not being inspired by Dark Souls though other people think thats bullshit due to a lot of "similarities" etc
again very very very stretched """"controversies""""
but well see, they havent pulled and Ori director yet
mmm, yeah these are good ones
the dark souls one is pretty obscure but youre absolutely right
yeah, that's very streatched
i dont get why some people wanna die on that hill
"it has to be inspired by dark souls"
like, yeah, i see the similarities too, but
no it doesnt
I guess you could also say stuff like TGA or the june 12th as people complaining about "deserving news" or something

i would say "Deserving news" is the biggest controversy
We’ve never had something to the likes of overwatch having more serious controversies
chalk it up to young and impatient fanbase
Kids these days
im still on the part that i wish they would acknowledge the stuff that came on the anniversary
mainly people who are used to having games released dates as soon as they are announced
not news exactly
but to celebrate even the dedicated fanbase this game has popped of
Did everyone see the curses animatic?
i know it sounds like "we deserve some recognition" and i dont wanna sound like that
no, I get what you mean
but like, id personally reach out a thank you to the fans for how long theyre still dedicated despite how long the game has been out
and theres still new players flowing in
yeah like anthony fantano
i got the game a month ago after wanting it 2 years ago 
yeah
and also I do think that the "we deserve news" thing is dumb but I understand that some people just want to know that TC are still working on it
Is anyone else just waiting for the moment where we get to play silksong and get that same feeling when we played hk for the first time, I’m gonna savor it as much as I can
the feeling i got from playing hk for the first time is probably gonna be much different for me
i didn't even know what a metroidvania or shit was, barely had any experience in combat/challenge-based games and it was my first game i tried after Yet Another Year of playing the same game too much
i got spoiled for hollow knight but i can play a blind silksong playthrough
Is it worth putting in the time and trying to beat p5 or should I just be happy with 112%
If you're fine with not having the trophy/achievement for it and haven't yet gone for it of your own volition, then I'd say just don't bother
You should just be happy with whatever, but go for p5 if you feel like it
I was going for it I just lost motivation
Quite fair
Maybe I’ll go for it sometime next month
yes
which ac costs 120
trust bro ive beaten false knight
If silksong really does live up to the hype I would gladly pay 60$ for it
And I'm not even buying elden ring BCS 60$ too expensive
Wouldnt silksong be free on release🙏 🙏 🙏
Right?
Cuz im broke ash google better be telling the truth
I'm pretty sure it's free for people who backed the first game
@cerulean sable m8, i tryed 5 time to get the body off of the tree and had to lvl up the skill to max and even drank aclool and wear cloths to help and got the bonuses from the smeeling thing and the kid and still didnt pass 88% 2 time in a row, and now i cant lvl the skill anymore, what do :'(((
uhh
what is this context
...that's quite a message to read out of context 
too late i kinda went and did other things until i get a though that allow me to lvl it more
aight, hopefully next day i can do something about it but the trashtalking from the ppl about the bdy is kinda fun so
i hated those 2 kids until you talk more to them
i like how they make fun of you call you shit on a certain action but your empathy allows you to read and realize that theyre not mocking you, infact thats just their way of cheering
its like getting a homerun while your friends scream "keep it up you goddamn idiot"
what build did you go with btw?
3333
and volition as the frst skill
so far i've passed most checks, idk why i've had garbage luck with the one for the body i even have +3 with the other non staats bonuses
The one that describes my loneliness ;-;
volition is my favorite
its basically the skill that goes "stop it with this bs nonsense, youre a detective, act like it"
Hold yourself together. Keep your Morale up.
Cool for: Sane People, Well-Adjusted Cops, The Non-Suicidal
Volition urges you to be a good guy – to others and to yourself. It enables you to resist temptation: be it in a bottle, between a pair of legs, or at the end of an iron barrel which promises oblivion. Volition gives you the will to finish the investigation, improving your Morale – one of the two health pools in the game.
At high levels, Volition makes you hyper-sane. When you’re about to get funky, it keeps you normal. It’s a bit of a party-pooper. At low levels, however, you’ll have little Morale. Without it, you’ll be profoundly unstable cop, falling apart at the seams as you make irreversible mistakes.
I love the official description
hi
what
Hi
Yes
Hi
;-;
:grubhug:
what happened to grubhug??!




tbh i picked it cos i liked the art lol
fair fair
but if you wanna play the "boring cop" role then its one of the more prioritized skills
because skillwise its the king of occam's razor
its basically Voidheart Edition
sooo
"""Definitive Edition"""
its essentially THE major update
its also the update that added 100% voice acting
back then it would go like
Text: "God I like hotdogs. Theyre not as good as hamburgers though, but theyre still really good. Actually come to think of it fries are better"
Voice Actor: "God I like hotdogs"
won't buy any new games until I've finished my current one 🥴
Definitive edition added full voice acting that it now says the entire line
that INCLUDES the narrator
sometimes in the original version, the wont even have a voice acting, so it was like 5% of it being snippets
but yeah now its 100% every single fucking line is voice acted
and this is a text based game
I hate John Skyrim
his cousins Gerald Whicher and John Elden will come and get you
seriously though its a great detective game and the dialogue can be hilarious at times
only undertale-likes can do that
its a roleplaying game where you are detective who has forgotten everything even the world he lives in and is now pitted with apparently solving a case while your internal monologues (skills) dictates you ranging from solving the case (Volition) or forgetting about all of that and instead devote your entire life to becoming a monk based on alcohol and drugs (Electro Chemistry)
that and you have different personalities + ideologies
becoming a monk based on alcohol and drugs
Electrochemistry
and yes, you can both play as a full on communist who wants to invest in the ""hustle""

yeah Electro Chemistry is essentially the skill you want if you wanna get into vices like smoking, drinking and drugs
usually it pops up randomly during conversations like a an addiction
checking a cupboard for evidence? most likely with with EC, hell randomly pop in and say:
Electro Chemistry - Forget about the evidence man, look at those painkillers, analgesics. Can give you wild highs. You should pocket it. Now.
r
ur
oh
i thought you legit knew
im confused
hi confused
im ttacco'
welcome to the hollow knight server
please read the rules and info, thanks
oh no, ttaco rebooted to factory mod setting
Correct
i am all the 2d pixel art metroidvanias that you choose to ignore
theres really alot of stuff to talk about in silksong
any chance that ss is coming out in may
1 in 7.4 trillion
was Disco Elysium the real Silksong this whole time?
I'd say around 20%
who knows
I really want it to release close to my Birthday (29th of June)
Then I have something to celebrate with at least
silksong is never coming out

yes, yes very funny and original
what the hell did i get into just opened this channel and first thing i see is i will eat obama
same
Lace: "Ooo little spider... Maybe Ill skewer you here right now and end your suffering~~"
Authority: How dare she, did she just attempt to threaten you?
Half-Light: Kill her, kill her now and push that stupid guillotine headed bitch down the lava.
Rhetoric: No this must've been a mistake! Violence is never the answer. Try explaining the situation to her instead. Who are were the people that kidnapped you?
Hand To Eye Coordination: Gonna agree with the other guy, It'll be easier to kick her down the lava pit.
can't believe a mod in maincord just leaked a part of the game
Shame on you! Shame on your family! Shame on your cow!
when is the E3?
oh its cancelled?
I believe so
it happens to line up with the release of silksong
ffs
Least sad thing I've ever heard
maybe some hope for Gamescom

very unlikely but its happening September in like germany or something
EDGE was bri'ish so not exactly impossible for TC to do silksong news on european countries
i should set up a circus
||/hj||
ahhhh silksong
correct
the ghost of metroidvanias past
hehe hope
a feeble mindset at this point
Instead hope for something that has a release date! Like the zariman warframe update 
Is warframe actually even fun, the only thing i Heard about it was that it’s hours upon hours of grinding
you grind the game to get an item that you can use to grind even more
so the grind is the game
Sounds painful
Why channel dead?
the people can't just chat here all day broseph
no silksong in 2022 just give up
unless 
unless nothing 😔

I'm starting to remember why I left this server now
why would you leave such an amazing place
there are some reasons
good morning 
cathy 😳 
g’morning 
oh my lord
is it wig 
oh my lord
is it greg
what
alright, alright, i know that sounds bad-

I don't even know what's happening
ss-discussion


Begone.
silence 
is that you cathy
Reev 
nitro 
Sam granted Cathy the power of nitro, such a terrible mistake.

here we go
Frick I was supposed to remove the elder alphabet, imma do it once I’m home
Why the hell
To make space for other emotes

Please don't remove elderx 
keep only elderc and elderz 
No.
I shall keep elderC, but not elderZ (which is a diffrent one from the hk-cord one, show them, Cathy)
that’s... new...
ElderEX when
OmegaElder
?sspsa 
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
How's everyone holding up here?
hello general

🐰 🍴
Can we agree that if zote doesnt appear on silksong its inmediately a bad game
where do i start...
eh
The Skeld

Its kirby
oh
its squarby
What is this 

im not in danger skyler
jessica pinkman
imagine having this and getting sleep paralysis
Danglar dungus
bingus
bingus vs big floopa
HI CHAT
Hi straw
what's the counter for
I would explain the context but its funnier if i dont
i might scrap it idk
yeah but what is it
it was gonna be celeste advanced lobby SC maps but i might be too lazy to play celeste this weeke
ive done 2/20 and the goal was to complete the other 18 this week
thought it was goldens but there's like 26 of those
yeah and im too bad to attempt goldens yet anyways
how many do you have
1
1a?
It's okay
I have 7 but I don't play any mods
Hi
What do you guys think the citadel would look like? I thought it'd be pristine white type of place, but that would make it look too much like pk's castle
Good point



oh and also maybe ** **


hola
Seth and the voice seeing Hornet pull up without equiping the Hunter's crest.
That’s me whenever you all are offline
you have cat ears?
Seth or leth?
No
Shit I wrote leth by accident
And you have to get my permission to put them on my pfp
Listening to soul sanctum's soundtrack rn. Do you guys think the scholarly suite that the last judge is at may also have something disturbing going on?
YES
Also we don’t know if the judge is part of the scholarly suite but it could be the case
The last judge was also crying black tears. I just have this really bad feeling that it's actually suffering or something is going on in that place.
Maybe people think it’s rust or void for some reason
Probably just some cosmetics
its pretty obvious its tears
tears????? isaac reference????????????
i didnt read upper side of chat and this is what came first into my mind
Yes
I don't really want the void to return in ss, but I wonder if to combat song or whatever plague is haunting the place, the scholarly suite decided to turn to the void to study it and use it to their advantage, only to go mad from it and possibly trapped themselves in that place.
But that sounds a bit too much like what happened with soul sanctum and their use of soul.
CITY OF TEARS
I never want void to be in ss at all it’s going to ruin the story and make it feel repeated
depends how they use it mb
True
Yeah I agree with you. That's why I'm not entirely on board with that idea, but the idea that they may have used void to help combat whatever is messing things up is interesting.
Also the descriptions and the way the bugs are designed for that place makes me think me think of the library of babel
If void is ever mentioned i think it will be only just extra vague lore text in a tablet. Nothing more then that
Yes
Agreed
i like the idea that Silksong will try to be it’s own thing, and not only “hk2”. It’s way more interesting to explore a new land with new mysteries, I don’t find interesting seeing let’s thk back or void
Btw I just wanna ask before posting a question, but were the weavers descended from a higher being? Like they're not children of one but their origins trace back to one. I remembered someone telling me that Herrah is not a weaver and thus did not have the whole magical silk thing going on.
Pharloom’s gonna have its own story
I'm probably in the minority, but them referring back to the void or TK would help tie the worlds together. Pharloom will be wildly different in a multitude of ways, but I want TC to find a way to connect the two games besides just "Hornet. Bugs."
I don't want to feel like Hornet got isekai'd.
I did once shared an idea that lemm was from pharloom and the lookalike we saw in the trailer was a relative. They'd talk about their son that opened a shop in a faraway kingdom selling relics.
they don't look anything alike though
lemm?
I think DS3 feels wildly different from DS1 for instance, but you can see the old Firelink Shrine if you're attentive, as well as go to Anor Londo. This helps make it feel like even though a lot of time has passed, and they are different games, they are clearly from the same world and one influenced the other.
See, that would be really cool.
Something to that effect I would like.
I think the visual similarities between them is just how they draw that bug
see r/hollowknight thread about whats the one thing they hope to see in Silksong and most of them are recurring characters/the knight or going back to Hallownest
cringe
they do them but i dont really like the idea of forcing Hallownest back in here again personally
i reminded of this one guy who once said
its like going from america to another country, only for you to dine in mcdonalds
Thing is, it would also force TC to make a 'true' ending of HK to do that if you go back to Hallownest or delve into the lore of it in SS to tie the games together like that
That's a little extreme, I agree. I would love a flashback with small Hornet in the Weaver's Den, but not really more than that.
the whole point is that you're not in hallownest nowhere near
I don't really want any characters from hk to return. I'm ok with mentions but I don't want them to return. TC said that silksong was going to be made that players who did not play the first game can still enjoy it, so this doesn't make sense.
Is silk song prequel or sequel
dammit half the newcomers are broken records
Dunno. Most likely a prequel but that doesn't really matter in the end.
yeah my favorite of a sequel is seeing a WHOLE NEW world, and i think its a detriment to force a Hallownest appearance just because they know its gonna appeal to fans
Facts
They can still enjoy it if there are recurring characters. I played DS3 before DS1, had no idea who Andre or Patches or Siegmeyer/Siegward were before but it still became my favorite game. Idk why you're implying it would detract from a new player's experience
Way more proofs says its a sequel, though we cant be 100% sure yet, its a fairly safe assumption to make
yeah im disappointed that the newcomers are stupid vinyl records that dont even function at all
that doesn't make sense tbh. A character from a previous game doesn't ruin experience. Especially when only some hk characters have even seen hornet. I didn't read an encyclopedia because I didn't know who red in pokemon was lmao
Here’s the thing: because it’s a new location, it would be strange for reoccurring characters to appear (other than Mr Mushroom)
Like….pure coincidence? 🤔
It works in DS3s case because it’s the same area, just ahead in the future.
Hm. I see my mistake then. I think it's just more of a personal opinion that I don't want Hallownest to be part of pharloom. A mentiom about a faraway kingdom to help build a connection between them, but no more than thar.
To have reoccurring characters in SS you'd have to give them a reason to leave Hallownest
And even then, lore wise it needs to be explained how Hornet can do that since of the whole leaving the kingdom will get rid of your sentience/memory of Hallownest thing
if they have a reason to show up on pharloom yes i can dive with that
DS3 was an example of how to tie worlds together, not that SS should do it the same way.
but if suddenly 80% of the cast shows up again just because, well yeah thats just stupid
Though that being said I’d kill for a HK game built upon Hallownest DS3 style
I fully agree with that
You know what? Same. A character or two is fine. Just not like half the cast.
Same
||well, Bretta and Cloth do both canonically leave hallownest||
I would like the lost kin to show up in ss they didn’t really do much with his character
Imagine bretta returns
Yeah no, just one or two is perfect.
||Well, Cloth is she doesn't get killed. But that would make TC to have a canonical right choice to include her.||
also as much as possible i dont wanna see what happened to the knight after, maybe a flashback to when she met it again in the fountain, but imo the Knight's story is over and id rather keep it concluded instead of "noo theyre not done yethes actualy turned into the omega abyss fucker of the dark abyss and hes coming towards pharlom and hornet must stop them aydayday yad"
(is this a joke? or do you mean as a prequel???)
...what
Some characters who aren't from hollownest wouldn't be effected. Like conifer and iselda, while they may not go to pharloom they would definitely leave hallowmest after finishing the map
True true
yes, i think it would make a lot more sense if ss was a prequel, then we would even have a chance to meet cloth without her being there forcing a canonical right choice in hk
I think SS would be much better and would make more sense as a prequel, but 
I did once make a really sad idea that there's a secretr room where a shadow that looks like the knight appears, and you loose control of hornet as she bolts towards it befroe stopping as it's revealed its just a rock or a plant that creates a figure of it, and Hornet just says nothing as a small piano melody of the HK theme plays.
Oh god okay here we go again
Only way for it to work as a prequel is to have Hornet at the end loose a lot of the stuff we got in the game or leave it all behind to explain fighting her in HK. And also loosing power.
care to explain why it would work better as a prequel?
That sounds awesome.
for me i feel like hornet isnt so emotionally invested in the knight to care for it like a little brother
thats just how i see it at least
She acknowledges it as her sibling, at least 
its more of a "these are my somewhat poor siblings tainted by the abyss, sad perhaps yet desperate as it is"
ofc her primary interest is in the service it can provide
oh yea, also that
And for me, Hornet seems to have her emotions steeled and controlled. I don't think she'd let her emotions show or get the better of her that easily but that's just me
No, the timelines don't need to be that close together
Well we can see her getting somewhat attached to it as she goes from calling it a Ghost to "Little ghost" which is more endearing.
Agreed with carefree
they would need to be overlapping
weavers just recently left deepnest by the time HK starts
Hornet cares more for her dead mother than her sibling that does a ridiculous amount of work to save everyone in hallownest

Honestly not really feeling it, but in a nutshell, it would shed more light on her character and motivations, fill plot holes and the ending of HK would stay vague without it feeling irrelevant.
It's subtle though. Perhaps she never wanted to get close to the knight in fear of what could happen when she looses it.
HK ending is irrelevant to Pharloom
How I see it, is that TC might leave it ambiguous if it's a prequel or not and not touch on HK
Team cherry could just pull a fnaf and undo things they said
Yeah, either way TC is never going to follow up HK’s endings due to their policy on “all endings canon”
But it isn't irrelevant to Hornet. That's the problem. You can't tell me she doesn't care what happened to her homeland when she tried so hard to protect it. And that's not even gonna affect her in any way? It doesn't make sense.
thats how i see it at least, she sees the entire event of the vessels to be tragic, but something to emotionally get destroyed about like learning about your past and discovering that it was all your fault, thus you end up creating this bubble in your mind to escape it in order to go back to the good old days and pretend that nothing bad ever happened but it is something that you must eventually face as the visions keep non stop haunting you, telling you that you must forgive yourself and move on
But in the end she did grow a little bit of affection for it, which resulted in her calling Ghost "Little ghost"
What sort of fear if you dont mind me asking?
What are y'all even talking about rn
You can backread tbh
She already lost her mother and I assume she fears of grieving over another lost loved one.
Silksong. Weird, I know. We don't do it a lot here.
Unless she decides to stop and do an exposition dump about a totally irrelevant kingdom for zero reason whatsoever, it wouldn't make a difference
I see
Agreed, to make it a sequel they can't touch on the endings and so Hornet won't lament in any way but it'll also open questions if stuff like the ||sealed siblings|| is the wrong ending and all that
I mean, there isn't just one way to go about it.
Another reason why SS as a sequel would be questionable
Exactly, I feel it might be a prequel or at least prequel to the same timeframe as HK or just before the game starts
Well, there is no “wrong ending” of course as all endings can be followed up on
Weaver (and by extension Pharloomian) techniques may have been implemented in creating the seal on the black egg, and seal breaking techniques or methods have already been established
That's exactly the problem with the Sealed Siblings ending
And before you respond with sealed siblings, reminder that the cultist bugs can break seals with the same bugs used to break the cage seal in SS’ intro
Now that's a cool idea. I like that.
Can someone who knows lore explain why Silksong can follow sealed siblings
Egg would also automatically open after Rad breaks out, but that would take a while
Wait Tammo's already on it, thanks
But wouldn't the cage be a different kind of seal than the one on the egg? The egg is contained with a dreamer seal.
Bug that freed hornet from her cave could possibly also break her out of the egg
Not sure exactly what you mean by “different seal” as both are seals.
No I mean I understand it but other people are better at explaining
because Hornet manages to release herself by doing a double spin to a vertical flip finish before slamming down, creating an explosion which will delay into another AOE before jumping away to throw pin needles at you for trying to heal
Tunnel under the egg and grab hornet is my personal theory
hi shalun
Hey
up up left a b right left x up
WAIT I FORGOT THERE'S AN EVENT ON A GAME I WAS PLAYING.
hey unique 
BRB
omg is that unqnue.......
I see more a connection with the cage seal as to the chains holding up THK. The ones we could destroy with the nail.
The egg is held by the dreamers and as we see in Sealed Siblings, Hornet becomes a dreamer within the egg to contain it.
Which would be different than the chains.
wtf why are the elderbugs capturing grub
doesn't mean that a seal breaker wouldn't work
ask unuque
Hi unique how are you doing?
more emotes required
PK also notably had weavers making/designing seals for him (demonstrated by the incomplete SoB in weaver's den) so the captive weavers in Pharloom could've been forced or otherwise coerced to tell the caste how to undo them
how is unqnue doing......
Im doing good,just woke up because my school didnt have classes
Thank you rain
they're stuck in reactions again
@fiery coral have you considered typing in the area at the bottom of your screen and hitting enter
Rain is always great
cant believe unique is here big fan

what does unqnue think of capitalism.......
i hope the same he thinks of birthday waffles
Unique is a liar
The first elden lord was godfrey
😡
feels bog man
pranked
giteth gud
The balance has been tainted
Hollow Knight sussy baka
113 emotes, not bad
Yikes, that's a lot of emotes
hidden #hk-lore
That is true
Do you not know deep lore? Godfrey was Unique all along.
Do not speak blasphemes to me
pfft
ametuars
godfrey is unique (unique as an english word), right?
that means that unique is godfrey (if a=b then b=a)
prove me wrong
Shut


You just can't accept the truth
I will duel you
This isn't Yu Gi Oh
⚔️
With swords you simpleton
And here is the time where I have no clue what is going on
by compnendo divedendonwe can confirm that unique and godfrey are in the ratio of 13:16
godfrey is obviously superior
⚔️ 
I have 60 poise and a greatsword
I have 53 poise an omen cleaver greataxe, dual +25 cleavers lighting magic, fire magic and a shield


I am good at dodging.
Too bad a deadman cannot roll
who tf needs poise
this post was made by astrologers gang

A dead man is not a dead man if he rolls
I'm a prisoner don't tell them
Tell your friends to stop spamming
stop spamming your cool colossal swords then 
I don't use colossal swords tho
R1 spammers will R1 spam, astrologer or warrior it doesn't matter
i don't spam neither 
A warrior can't kill you with one attack before you see them tho
Have you ever seen mimic veil and bleed
Every pvp or invasion have the same 3 weapons it's absolutely horrible
i think they meant spell spamming in elden ring
I'm an idiot, I shall correct my mistake and I apologise for it as I have yet to see gameplay of Elden Ring so was unaware of the terminology within the game.
Bleed users aren't human I refuse to acknowledge them
wait, did the game releasedd?
🤝
nah it's fine, we all make mistakes 
I won't lie a lot of these bosses are unbalanced oh my god who did this.
I only like the main bosses tbh
never met an unbalanced boss
except ||valiant gargoyles and black blade kindred||, fuck them
||Fire giant|| is horrible
There are so many believe me
hi 
FUCKING THANK YOU
i'm only in volcano manor so ig i haven't fought a lot of bosses then 
there has not been a single good giant boss in any from games
As someone who soloed ||Radahn|| in a robe, I summoned for ||Fire Giant||. Couldn't be assed. I just saw him and noped out.
only game that does it right is Monster Hunter imo (no i have not played Shadow of the Colossus and i dont want to stfu i only play real game like 16 different versions of FIFA)
Except for Yhorm agreed. Wish he wasn't a ||gimmick|| boss.
ye
f*fa 🤮
His camera is horrible and you have to get so close and can't see any of his attacks. He also glitched a bunch and was stuck rolling or would hit me with invisible attacks
ur fifa
fifa deez nuts
ICO > Shadow of the colossus
THIS.
real shit when i fight giant bosses i have to activate my sixth sense and rely audio to know if some thing is about to drop on top of my fucking head
Or slid his foot back and knocked me into fire
the camera placement is really bad since you can only see their feet
get 300:9 monitor smh
The giant hate in here makes me very happy.
ur a 300:9 monitor ever heard of that?
good m orning silksong and discussers
i wish they could you know
i just stick my face in their ass and hit them, then roll back when i see them lift up their legs
Oh my god I refuse to fight twin gargoyle
Did you know they can both use poison breath and literally fill the entire arena and kill you in seconds
sekiro divine dragon
yeah, best boss of the game 
and dont give me that typical FROM fan response of "nah they shouldnt change it you as a player just needs to adapt"
nah they shouldnt change it you as a player just needs to adapt
yeah but have you considered adapting
Fucking baffling that of all the things they improved, it wasn't this?? Who made Fire Giant, had it playtested and was like "yup, perfect!"??
nah they shouldnt change it you as a player just needs to adapt
did you try getting gud
if i wait for you outside your house and beat your legs with a bunch of hammers and i say "maybe you shouldnt have just walked outside of your house lol" how would you feel?
beat the game blindfolded as practice, maybe
From usually be on it wtf were they doing
And godskin duo holy shit
I just used rot breath
atleast the song was nice
savestate and not walk outside ez
Farum Azula gotta be the worst area in the game along with the haligtree
me when i have over 2gb of new vegas saves because i save every 15 seconds
You should play from soft games hitless and breathless for optimal experience
im serious btw
I found a malenia glitch
yeah?
i actually have a bad case of save scumming in a lot of games
another thing to complain about her, nice
imagine not saving every 10 seconds and before you choose a weird af option in dialogue
this post was made by paranoid gang
I attacked her several times over several attempts and did no damage
Literally
I don't save scum unless a game crashes, then until the end of time I will save every 30 seconds
save scumming is fine if youre not against another player imo
Godskin duo is like... ugh. Idk, haven't gotten past first phase yet, my only problem is the sheer fucking damage the noble does. The assassin doesn't do jack shit thank god, but I still think I will summon because honestly I just don't care. I love hard bosses, I absolutely loved soloing Radahn, but if I'm not having fun, there's 0 point.
She gets away with it by being hot
The armor makes her hot
Rot breath
scarlet rot breath
i literally have 700 total Kingdom Come Deliverance saves, around 300 Battle Brothers saves, New Vegas actually got me with the 1000 save limit, Disco Elysium has around 200-250 saves, Dragon Age is around 300 i think, Total War is around 100-150
hope you didn't use 700 saving [whatever they are called] 
oh I’m supposed to still be avoiding Elden ring spoilers adios
I have never used cheese until then but goddamn fire giant, godskin duo, and niall were so bad
I don't see any problems with summons, for me it's just a part of the game, and It's fun to play with them too. I don't want to struggle forever on a single boss
I had rot breath suggested by 3 people here.
...I am a frost melee and ranged hybrid with a godskin peeler and 8 or 9 arcane...
slightly different but if debug mod had unlimited savestates id have like 100
too bad use rot breath
uh hornet dies in the best ending of er k bye
I really wanted to beat it solo. Yeah, I'm that kind of player...
You only need 12 arcane and a lil faith
batman dies at the end of the game (all endings)
Goes against my character fantasy, very cringe.
That's fair tho. I mean, it's up to each players
Wdym
Oh then use the frost glitch
If they get a status as they go second form they instantly die
frost 
its even worst for games like Stalker that lets you name your save files so i end up naming wtv thing pops up in my head
so my save files are like
"get fucked lmfao"
"new loot"
"asdfasdf"
"asdassas"
cannot save game because the name asdfasdf is already used
"bandit got fucked"
"oh shit oh fuck"
"i am in the middle of ur picture"
"lying in the reads"
"DUNN DUNN DUNN DUN"
"i hit u wit da quad damage rail gun"
"i hit u wit da quad damage rail gun 2"
"monoolith more like get fucked"
"Pre save before talking to Solovich"
"Selling my AK DO NOT DELETE"
cannot save game because the name asdfasdf is already used
"creeper aww man"
She's this elegant frost twinblade wielder lady, I'm not gonna make her throw up a dragon's intentines
Huh. Never heard of it.
You got the zamor blade?
yeah, it's a glitch of the recent patch, it's insane
It's new
The last "patch" accidently created it lmao
Last third of Elden Ring lost me tbh
Godskin Duo is the only boss I summoned for
No, but I suppose I could get it. I have some points in strength too
agreed
Good thing I love the frenzied flame quest
like the endgame bosses are all spectacular but this one abomination tarnishes it
FOUL TARNISHED
Same. My boyfriend too. I'm glad so many people can relate
...tarnish
togethaa
Across the fog

I summoned for Fire Giant because the whole boss is the camera angles 
The lands between
There's a really good vid by thedeModcracy that explains why the bosses feel so bad
SOMEONE MUST EXTINGUISH THY FLAME
is there a soulslike that has no issues with camera controls?
LET IT BE MARGIT, THE FELL!
or is that part of the genre
"I am Malenia"
Blade of miquella btw
it's more than part of the genre, it's a part of the lore
she's called that because it takes millenia before you can safely hit her
oh, another man of culture as well

I watched it and completely agree. But it also lost me with many other things like catacombs (bosses aside), shitty mobs, just everything felt meh and the map towards end game is MUCH emptier. People hate to admit it because of recency bias and because the game is big, but late game areas feel unfinished.
how about gravity balls swoosh swoosh
There are a lot of fromsoft problems we let slide because of the games' quality. But since Elden Ring has so many problems we cannot ignore it
hornet is void
no
It's part of shitty design but I'm not supposed to say that
yes
i would be killed
that's the point, murder! 🥰
Exactly. I understand why it's so highly rated, but... people DO blow it out of proportion. A lot.
Yeah they def do, the entire consecrated snowfield is just 3 ruins, another smaller sellia and a portal. With 1 invasion and 2 bosses. That's it
if murder is now legal then i promise you i wont hurt anyone that regulars this chat, cuz ill save you all for last <3
Cool 👍
why
ttacco's winning the purge
But what if I want to die right now?
the purge is a legit stupid fucking movie
they should stopped after the first one
if you kill everyone do you win
Battle royal
Farum Azula and Haligtree have 2-4 enemy types they put everywhere with no continuity or good level design
I could say the same about sharknado
Oh boy, I can't wait to get there.
The most clever things in haligtree are enemies that push you off into the abyss below
Sharknado at least tried
Or the land before time
Land Before Time is Based
Did you know there's 14 land before time movies?
ngl i barely explored Haligtree because at that point I just wanted the game to be over
yes
At that point I honestly just have respect for the people who keep making them
Letting me time to gather my shermarmy isn’t a good idea, taco...
Legit just run, in both haligtree and farum azula I got through to the main bosses in 20 minutes.
There is nothing of real worth
I'm feeling the same way right now tbh.
Shermnation
I mean it’s an optional area 
It could have been over if you wanted it to, but you chose to continue
Not with that location, but okay.
Optional areas should still be good tho
there are a bunch in HK
optional areas should be good enough to make me want to go to them and actually stay there
there is a bench in HK
*cough path of pain *cough
2 days left? for what?
HK has never felt too long, tedious, or overstaying its welcome to me personally.
hey alsart 
for me it was like, i wasnt enjoying fighting the enemies that and the reward is probably another fucking nascent butterfly so theres really no point for me to explore the area
Until new stanley parable
The pantheons did exactly that 
ohhh, right that one
oh they made a new one?
and the enemies are either godrick soldier reskins or super tanky mega knights that will fuck you over if you get cornered
New version
Oh yeah another thing, the rewards are shit.
like a remaster or a sequel
Godhome
in DS if i see an item i would go OMG IS THAT GONNA BE AN ITEM and 70% of the time it is unless its consumables
in the trailer of ss the player looks like he didnt played hk
Idk, seems like a completely re-imagined standalone
unless they actually fit the build you are doing then yeah, they do
in Elden Ring, when i see an item i always hope it ISNT another crafting material
he died
?
True, Godhome does feel unnecessary. That's a good point. But I like how it has a completely new ending at least.
i mean the bosses dont look that hard
i heard hornet plays quite differently compared to the knight, so i wouldn't be surprised if people had trouble
I always think you're Unique before I see your pfp
having played HK doesn't automatically make you invincible in SS
Is the elitism already starting, the game isn't even out yet
True tbh, I also wish that you did not need to craft certain consumables and that you could buy infinite of all of them
i'll take that as nothing
Makes pvp kinda annoying
anyways ss looks fun
I won't lie I somehow found PoP fun
Like more annoying than it already it

I don't even use crafting. I made a million rowa fruits at once and sometimes I make explosive pots. Crafting, as I expected, was just a box to check off in this game.
Which part of the trailer they're dying?
rowa fruits gang
And I found haligtree fun
PoP is great tbh,
also white palace imo, even if the jump in difficulty doesn't make too much sense
the only time i wanted to craft was for arrows
let me re see the trailer i forgot what was
We will kill you
for most of the time in any game, crafting is like a mechanic i like in paper but i always disliked in practice
You probably meant the demo footage then
yes
sometimes its because i dont wanna bother with a shitty inventory shuffling mechanic
Optional areas are optional for a reason, some people just want to get it over with while others wish to play more
I agree
theres also a enemy
It’s for this reason I did not bother with pop or p5
Optional areas makes the world feel more natural too
the only time i gave a shit about crafting was cataclysm dark days ahead, and it was very mechanical
pour liquid in a 1liter container, use container and hose to siphon gas from car, put gas into a breakable container, add other liquid like oil, tear a curtain for string, combine the string to make cloth, apply cloth to the bottle
voila, molotov cocktail, an object that will most likely save your ass sometime in the future
Okay, that's not an excuse to make a shitty optional area just so you can say "yeah, and what? It's optional anyways". It's supposed to make you want to go there and be interested.
We've discussed it multiple times in the ER discord bur the game feels like it's missing a lot. There's so much that is important to the story/characters that just isn't their when it should be and we just have to hope there's dlc
theres gonna be dlc
It is?
it's nigh guaranteed
More effort put into it than p5
nigh
All of godhome actually
Agree to disagree ig.
i'd be very surprised if there wasn't but yes, theres always a chance there isn't i suppose
Imagine p5 with 1 mask and no charms or spells and your nail only does one tick of damage
Pantheon 5 is unbalanced tbh
Godhome is the definition of artificial difficulty
i just hope they add some kind of infinite larval tear merchant in the dlc so i don't have to go into ng+ when i want to try a new build
I was thinking about joining the ER discord, but I don't know how many active members there are. When there's too many people, having a conversation is literally impossible
I'm back
It’s not a good server, too much slow mode to have any conversation and no Vc
Also the mods are incompetent 
"1v1 me elden ring"

"I'll beat you in elden ring u noob"
I mean Elphael is hardly comparable to Godhome to be fair 🥴
Yeah 1v1 me, you can't
Because the net connection here is too terrible for co-op 😎
It's always statisfying to see them get their ass kicked right after they said it
Sounds like hell
happened with league of legends for me, but honestly I didn't cared that much. was for fun
I don't see the point of 1v1 in any MOBAs
But then again I wonder what happened that caused the server to have that much slow mode
If you're gonna go somewhere to talk there go to lore. It's the only place most users actively avoid. So the people there talk about the actual lore and correct each other respectfully. Only a few times are there actual trolls and people usually agree to disagree if they can't come to a conclusion. Also it's unhinged and they will tell you about the wildest stuff that is in the lore

Now that sounds like the perfect place to have 3 am talks
hi chat
hi
hey Reevs
Hey didn't know we were talking about Hollowcord instead of ER
Hi
Reeves just came online time to hide
Why are we hiding
?av
Does that answer your question?
Speaking of lore I remembered once the whole chat was watching #hk-lore go down on an arguments and teasing about the topics before they all invaded the ss chat.
It was chill though, thankfully.
things i will miss about HK that prob won't be in SS
-being a small fellow with a small hitbox
-having shade cloak bc i am void
Mumbo is void?
We vot air dash so maybe shade cloak isn't completely gone.
wait thats true
they could prob integrate it in a way that isn't connected to void
it's one of the best upgrades out there so i'd be really sad if it's not there anymore
i wonder if we'll get an iframe dash at all
hm i do not recall of this occasion
i doubt hornet won't have a movement move that gives you iframes
I don't think you were there
Hornet is emo so she won't have as many friends as the knight
hornet is in a position to rebuff friendship bc she can speak
She also has equal opportunity to fumble bc she can speak
Hi
????????
SHE BE WADDLING
crawling
clag clag cantering
Waddle waddle and she waddled away, until the very next day bam bam bam
hey fake reev
😳
poking fun at #hk-lore for being...well, what it is; don't mind me






