sk-discussion

[jovial shore]

goodnight! good chat about the ramblings of a madman (graig)

[chrome wave]

I want silksong to have a car battery tool

[bleak scarab]

Good knight! Sleep well

[chrome wave]

Where you get 5000 rosaries everytime you throw it into a large body of water

[iron spear]

there is a tool where hornet just yeets batteries into enemies

[chrome wave]

And every npc will respect you more

[sharp peak]

Good night people

[chrome wave]

Acid, cool

[nimble radish]

acid damage and electric damage

[uncut citrus]

God dang it I was with a friend also why is it 30min early

[nimble radish]

which means you get 4x damage against enemies that are weak to both

[bleak scarab]

lumafly weapon? 🤔

[nimble radish]

that's what batteries are made of in bug world

[ocean shuttle]

😳😳

[uncut citrus]

[coarse leaf]

not even SS 😔

[ocean shuttle]

Blasting mauvais payeur

[uncut citrus]

Sly groovin

[small goblet]

why is this the first thing i see when i come here

graig is not sly anymore

[uncut citrus]

Nope

[bleak scarab]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/947824661532667934/image0.gif

[uncut citrus]

Indeed

[worthy lichen]

stop trying to control me

[uncut citrus]

[subtle umbra]

yo, how about instead of waiting for this game to come out the community picks up a different game and we discuss that instead? just for the time being ofc, if/when Silksong does come out then we quickly go back to talking about it

[uncut citrus]

i shall influence you to do it in certain hours then be there at the exact time

[small goblet]

OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH ELDEN RING

[wary copper]

is that not what we are doing sort of

[uncut citrus]

yeah half of the discussions here are about other games

[wary copper]

if we can talk about it, we will talk about it

[uncut citrus]

we can talk about pretty much anything here-

even thing we maybe shoudnt talk about...
like earlier today...

[wary copper]

what happened earlier

[nimble radish]

graig gets a free pass on the rules, we don't

[small goblet]

what happened earlier indeed

[uncut citrus]

nothing that was worth getting purged or anyone muted, just kinda wierd conversation...

[buoyant osprey]

??????????????????????

[wary copper]

oh, so just the average accidental rule break

[uncut citrus]

not really, just wierd conversation, anyways
im groovin'

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/930585110019964998/image0.gif

[wary copper]

i have plans on what to do today, but do not know what they are

[worthy lichen]

no

[woven rampart]

we even discuss toes

[worthy lichen]

this is silksong discussion what the fuck do you think we are gonna do

[wary copper]

wait for silksong

[chrome wave]

Liquid lumaflies

[woven rampart]

this is just general chat but with no spoiler warnings

[chrome wave]

Liquid charge luma flies

I Wonder how they taste

[woven rampart]

like acid

[chrome wave]

Acceptable

[balmy herald]

Lmao the SS for Switch page on the Nintendo website is still down

[carmine sapphire]

portal 3

[chrome wave]

Are there games that use the acronym ss other than silksong?

[woven rampart]

super sus

[balmy herald]

Probably

Steel Soul

[chrome wave]

Should we Just turn this server into a fanclub for that weeb gumba from mario guy from game theory?

[wary copper]

rather not

[woven rampart]

nah this is mossbag fans only

[balmy herald]

I read that as mossbag only fans 💀

[woven rampart]

[wary copper]

i am not a fan of mossbag tho

[chrome wave]

Mossberg

[wary copper]

i just live here sometimes

[woven rampart]

my dream is to get an autograph from team cherry lol

[ocean shuttle]

Weak dream

[chrome wave]

The bug titanic boat got hit by a moss Berg on the moss grotto lake.

Casualties 2

[wary copper]

there are other, way better goals than getting an autograph from someone

[ocean shuttle]

True

[woven rampart]

my second dream is eat a burger

[chrome wave]

Yeah like making a fake autograph and selling it on a sketchy website

[ocean shuttle]

Lemon fish burgir

[wary copper]

my dream is to find peace with myself

and become a better person

[woven rampart]

my third dream is a hornet body pillow

[chrome wave]

You can do that by eating corn

[wary copper]

[chrome wave]

Excuse me what the fuck

[woven rampart]

filled with needles probably

[wary copper]

your life seems quite depressing

[chrome wave]

Bugfuckers back in hk fandom? Whaaat?

[uncut citrus]

how to kill any wierd HK fan

[chrome wave]

I thought that shid was over

[wary copper]

there are always "them" in any community, big or small

[worthy lichen]

I can confirm

I play starbound

[chrome wave]

Nono i thought that they were universally banned or something

[woven rampart]

I don't actually like hornet I was trynna disturb people

[fiery coral]

yeah could you not

[wary copper]

anyways, should we switch topics before this gets weird

[fiery coral]

thanks

[woven rampart]

maybe

[uncut citrus]

yeah

[wary copper]

oh, i summoned a mod with my question

i suppose that means "yes"

[uncut citrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/930585110019964998/image0.gif

[woven rampart]

I mean it wasn't as bad as some jokes I've seen but

[worthy lichen]

la trumpeta

[uncut citrus]

i am still groovin'
||(hourly groovin update)||

[wary copper]

it does not seem very aerodynamic, but it does look dope

[opaque sigil]

Don't need aerodynamics in space

[chrome wave]

It is aerodynamic it flies backwards, its like a thruster

The doot propells it

[worthy lichen]

It needs aerodynamics to get there

wrong reply

[woven rampart]

rip bozo

[worthy lichen]

I meant that at tammo

[wary copper]

hmm, that is correct
maybe trompetas are more aerodynamic than i thought

[worthy lichen]

perhaps

[woven rampart]

how aerodynamic is a meatball

[worthy lichen]

not very

[wary copper]

i did notice this, but i replied anyway

[chrome wave]

I want to throw shoes at people in sliksong

[grave snow]

lol

[chrome wave]

Fuckinn sniping enemies from the other side of the screen with a high velocity slipper

[woven rampart]

I do wonder though how various will be the silksong future mods

[wary copper]

silkboot

[opaque sigil]

reskin mod to make all projectiles shoes

[chrome wave]

One of them will add the knight as a playable character with charms

[woven rampart]

that would be sick ngl

[grave snow]

imagine silksong TAS

[chrome wave]

Yeah the downward pogo is probably better anyways

[stoic path]

If you wanna play Silksong, you have to read the Terms and Service

[chrome wave]

The diagonal thing doesnt look like it propells you enough

[stoic path]

What? It propells you enormously

[chrome wave]

It sometimes even seems to get you back to the original position

[opaque sigil]

only... if you try to

[chrome wave]

When not hitting any enemies

[opaque sigil]

???

[brittle garnet]

It's not supposed to happen when not hitting enemies

[opaque sigil]

Unless you do it into a corner it's not gonna do that

[chrome wave]

Bruh its like 1/5 of the lenth of a flip or dash

[stoic path]

What is the argument here?

[opaque sigil]

It's way more than that

[chrome wave]

The sprint needle hit looks Way better

Or Just the sprint jump

[opaque sigil]

It's like half a dash at least, but diagonal

[chrome wave]

Or Just sprinting, or constantly flipping

[opaque sigil]

the pogo is the flip

[stoic path]

Have you seen gameplay footage? When you hit an enemy it sends you up really high, high enough to get the ||second mossberry|| in Moss Grotto

[chrome wave]

Yeah nah i was talking more about horizontal mobility

[opaque sigil]

It has a ton of horizontal mobility when you hit an enemy

[stoic path]

You can move horizontally

[chrome wave]

And how the hell will you be Able to aim the needle grapple

[opaque sigil]

Why would you need to

[chrome wave]

It looks like it aint really made for a path of pain like section

[stoic path]

It automatically snaps to the nearest enemy

[chrome wave]

Like what combo of inputs would it even require

[opaque sigil]

Just… a dedicated button

[stoic path]

Wait what's happening? SS isn't HK.

[chrome wave]

Sounds cool

But i always thought that the needle throw is neutral spell, the string Storm is down spell and the grapple is up spell

Like i hope the controlls dont get crammed

With all of these having a seprate button

[stoic path]

The gazama storm is special. The grapple is a specific tool you can equip

I think you can change gazama storm as well with other abilities

[chrome wave]

Well it uses silk

[stoic path]

Yeah

[chrome wave]

It could be an interchangible ability as well

Also the parry uses silk So it could be a spell

[worthy lichen]

silk =/= ability???????

[stoic path]

Wait, what is your argument?

[worthy lichen]

use brain

[chrome wave]

Maybe the gossamer Storm is the up spell and the parry is the down spell

Huh

[stoic path]

Huh?

[chrome wave]

Or maybe its just aerial

Was the needle throw ever used in the air?

In any footage?

[stoic path]

Gazama storm is a one-button special. The parry is a tool, the needle throw as well.

[uncut citrus]

uh

[chrome wave]

The pin throw is a tool

[uncut citrus]

i dont think it would make sense to have diffrent spells depending if your mid air or not

not in this case at least, no

[stoic path]

What do you mean by needle throw then?

[chrome wave]

The needle throw spell

[iron spear]

he means her needle

[chrome wave]

Where it flies forward and backwards on a string

[jade canopy]

Ahhh a surprise graig

[stoic path]

This game does not have spells, it has tools which are interchangable

[chrome wave]

With a silk aura thingke

[chrome wave]

Nah

It got silk spells and tools at the same time dummy

[jade canopy]

Have you done your audio enigma thingy that you were planing earlier today

[stoic path]

Oh those, those are silks charge spells, yeah. They change depending on the tool you select

[iron spear]

you dont need to call people dummy its a bit rude for no reason

[carmine sapphire]

yeah its a weird word lol

[stoic path]

Oh? I call it 'Gazama storm' so I wrote it like that

[worthy lichen]

yeah don't call someone a dummy when you're wrong

[carmine sapphire]

like how she says garama when the fight starts

[uncut citrus]

i think thats just how alumo named it in a fake lol

[stoic path]

Yeah I'm aware. The spells change depending on your arsenal

[iron spear]

why do you think this, just curious

[stoic path]

Don't they?

[carmine sapphire]

what fake?

[iron spear]

im not gonna say

just wondering why you think this

[stoic path]

You can use a 'charged' needle throw

[chrome wave]

Crests could Change something

[stoic path]

It consumes silk

[uncut citrus]

a fake when you see hornet getting the spell

[chrome wave]

Not the tool arsenal

[opaque sigil]

The silk abilities like silk spear don't necessarily get swapped out, the white slots could be for modifiers or a separate thing

[carmine sapphire]

huh

[worthy lichen]

awnser me this, why does silk have to equal ability?
why can't actual tools use silk?

[chrome wave]

I think the crests Just give passive benefits

[stoic path]

Ah I see. I'm still not fully aware about how the crests work. I always thought that you can charge your tools using silk

[opaque sigil]

Well mostly because of the seemingly defined nature of tools functioning on a use per bench basis which are refilled with shell shards...

[chrome wave]

Like a throns effect or long nail or maybe a charged nail strike

[stoic path]

You have active tools as well. Like the pin needle

[carmine sapphire]

i think the crests just give you different "notches"

[iron spear]

This could be true, dont doubt yourself

[chrome wave]

Crud consumed Shell shards and it refuels at every bench

[worthy lichen]

I suppose that makes sense then

[uncut citrus]

OMG i only see that now... and... its... Perfect...

[carmine sapphire]

ong

[iron spear]

all theories are pretty much canon for now

[stoic path]

😳

[chrome wave]

Pretty sure that the pin and the needle are two different things

[carmine sapphire]

you charge your needle with silk

[stoic path]

The charged pin throw?

Wait was it a charged pin throw or just a needle stab?

[uncut citrus]

here @carmine sapphire

[stoic path]

I remember seeing a charged silk needle attack in the demo

[chrome wave]

Its an extended needle throw stab

[opaque sigil]

It's a needle throw with a bunch of silk around it

[chrome wave]

Its like the vengeful spirit but shorter range and more damage

[uncut citrus]

"Gossamer" close enough

[stoic path]

So it isn't an enhanced pin throw?

[carmine sapphire]

ohhh, honestly im not sure if thats how we will get it

[opaque sigil]

Doesn't necessarily have a shorter range

[chrome wave]

The gossamer is basically an aoe surround howling wraiths

Its a waste to use it on the ground it obscures half the hitbox

Its meant for flying enemies and grouped guys on the ground

[opaque sigil]

Not a waste if your only targets are still in it

[iron spear]

which one do you mean

[stoic path]

Woah

[carmine sapphire]

official silksong lore

[chrome wave]

Wouldnt it be more effective to like use the needle throw at that point or Just the needle

[opaque sigil]

Not necessarily

[chrome wave]

Like it deals more burst damage

[chrome wave]

The strings cutting up things around hornet, like in the hk boss fight

[stoic path]

The top is the pin throw, the bottom is the charged needle attack?

[carmine sapphire]

needle throw does more damage

[olive bobcat]

I think we'll probs get it from the Weavers, then we'll get some kind of screen like that

[carmine sapphire]

i thought wed see them in late game

[opaque sigil]

We don't really know that
Needle throw doesn't hit in an arc above

[chrome wave]

It was used on the moss Mother So it might as well drop from Dave the tik tik baldur hybrid

[olive bobcat]

Edge mentions a Weaver in the Marrow at the start of the game

[carmine sapphire]

it has to do more dmaage or it would be useless

[chrome wave]

A dikdik or a bikbik

[iron spear]

I have no idea, neither of these attacks have been in the game for over 2 years now.... unless?????

[carmine sapphire]

oh damn

[olive bobcat]

I think that's just for the trailer, dev mode or whatever

[opaque sigil]

Hits a longer range ahead and doesn't lock Hornet in place for an eternity like gossamer storm is...

[stoic path]

Huh? I saw pin throw and charged stab in the demo

[carmine sapphire]

it doesnt lock hornet?

[chrome wave]

And in the trailer

[opaque sigil]

Hornet seems to be stuck for the duration of gossamer storm

[iron spear]

yeah you saw them there because im lying

[olive bobcat]

Classic Graig

[carmine sapphire]

yeah but wouldnt the needle throw do the same kinda

[opaque sigil]

Not for nearly as long

[long comet]

People have yet to get used to the tricks of the grand troll master

[chrome wave]

The needle throw has shorter immobility frames

[stoic path]

👍

[carmine sapphire]

i mean yeah its a shorter attack

[opaque sigil]

needle throw is just pow and then it's done
gossamer storm holds you there 'till it's done

[sly fern]

Lmao 5 year anniversary

[chrome wave]

The string Storm could also be used to stall in the air

[long comet]

Today's a fine day to play Elden Ring

[chrome wave]

Like with abyss shriek

[carmine sapphire]

that happend

[opaque sigil]

And because it holds you there it becomes a more risky move

[carmine sapphire]

but effective

[opaque sigil]

It's a tradeoff

[chrome wave]

It seems more like a defensiv manuer

[opaque sigil]

In the trailer the ability locks Hornet in place for two seconds

two seconds is a long time

[chrome wave]

I hope the silk spells can be upgraded to silker spells

Because of impending mutually assured nuclear annihilation i assume

Or some other personal reason

Idk

Yeah anyways tools

[wheat sail]

mods get ss keys confirmed

[chrome wave]

I wanna be mod

I like saving money

[buoyant osprey]

silksong e3 mayhaps 👁️ 🐽 👁️

[chrome wave]

And silksong is probably gonna be pretty expensive

[coarse leaf]

no news

[uncut citrus]

[buoyant osprey]

tc has already said they want to keep their games accessible since even $15 is a lot of money in some places

[chrome wave]

Game cancelled

[buoyant osprey]

probably some idiots all checked in on it and somehow crashed it again

[chrome wave]

Its very a lot of money in russia recently

[young crown]

i mean there are still kickstarter goals to be fulfilled

[coarse leaf]

its been down for 2 weeks now as well as other games, its not only ss

[chrome wave]

Zote game wasnt backed its never coming out

[buoyant osprey]

what does that have to do with anything i said

[young crown]

give tc a break lol, they are making a whole new game just for a kickstarter goal

[coarse leaf]

they do take breaks

[olive bobcat]

Fun fact

[young crown]

i mean if people want to give more money to them, you can always donate on kickstarter

[coarse leaf]

just play Elden Ring and Triangle Strategy forget about ss

[opaque sigil]

They don't have an active kickstarter

[olive bobcat]

It costs around 150k Venezuelan boulevards to buy 1 Robux

[buoyant osprey]

my response was to someone going hurhur silksong will be ex pen sive!

[young crown]

oh, im dumb

the russian currency one, isn't it because of the inflation

[coarse leaf]

we dont talk about russia

[bleak scarab]

because he missed his daily elderc

[chrome wave]

IPhone venezuela 100trillion gorillion mysteriously disappeared

Anyways how is the safety of everyones neighbourhood and the weather today?

[olive bobcat]

Lemme check

[chrome wave]

You in a bunker?

[olive bobcat]

My city's crime rate is currently 1179.91 per 100,000 population but my neighborhood seems fine

Weather's nice

[sinful flare]

rainy. very rainy just like when i played terraria mutli before and it rained constantly for 4 days

[chrome wave]

Good

[sinful flare]

its kinda annoying

[chrome wave]

And how is your neighbourhood?

[sinful flare]

good question

luckily i dont think anyone got covid in my neighbourhood rn

[chrome wave]

Good

I guess it also got low crime rate

[uncut citrus]

why are you even talking about crime rate?
like nothing wrong with it but how did that discussion happend?

[sinful flare]

suspicious kids running around i saw once but low

[chrome wave]

What they be doijg

[sinful flare]

idfk

[chrome wave]

Is there graffittis appearing on walls

With questionable content?

Are they stealing bricks and pavement tiles?

[sinful flare]

no theyre just writing their own names
they appeared like at least 6 years ago

ok what about yours

do you live in a prison neighborhood

[chrome wave]

My neighbourhood got a bunch of white lives matter stickers plastered in random spaces near trash cans and road signs, and weirdass zodiac symbols sprayed on walls, apart from that its pretty safe

[sinful flare]

wacky

either a bunch of stupid kids or idk

[chrome wave]

The weather is pretty dry today

No clouds and adequately bright sun

[sinful flare]

can we trade our weathers

[chrome wave]

The wind is still

Kinda ominously still

Like no movement at all

[split tide]

Hmm

[chrome wave]

Its usually like this before a storm

But well there aint a cloud anywhere in sight

[tribal nexus]

Hey i forgot, when is the next date?

[lost coyote]

any news today guys

[chrome wave]

August 5th 2022

[sinful flare]

next year?

[tribal nexus]

Ah.....

[sinful flare]

yeah we got cool statues buy them now or im locking your family in a gulag

[chrome wave]

Graig sent some random binary code and it was conxluded that its most likely that date

[uncut citrus]

I am extra groovy today

[tribal nexus]

So no release on the birthday?

[coarse leaf]

it was nonsense

[chrome wave]

I see Sense in nonsense

[sinful flare]

why do i keep racitn gm ynensgaes

[chrome wave]

Buy more laundry detergent

[sinful flare]

jesus grist always tells the truth wtfdym

after all. he's jesus grist

[chrome wave]

Yeah So 5th of August 2022

[coarse leaf]

that binary code didnt say august 5 xdd

[chrome wave]

It said something that somewhat resembled it

[coarse leaf]

proof

[chrome wave]

And i mean it sounds believable enough right

[coarse leaf]

send proof

[chrome wave]

Its not that farfetched that we might get news or a release date in august

[sinful flare]

#sk-discussion message

[coarse leaf]

send proof of 5 august

[chrome wave]

Trust the word of Graig moustache man

[normal hinge]

[radiant wraith]

Stop speculating, embrace not waiting

[sinful flare]

EMBRACE DST

[chrome wave]

It was the number 5 and some Unicode symbols that can be interpreted as an abreviation of august

[radiant wraith]

Stop the detective work, embrace just letting it be

[split tide]

Sounds good enough

[sinful flare]

did you try utf8

[lost coyote]

August 5th sounds like Gorbust 5th, maybe we have to talk to gorb and he will give us more info

[sinful flare]

WOWOOOAOAOAOOAOAOAOOA

[chrome wave]

I want to eat rusty metal dipped in Nacho cheese and salsa

[sinful flare]

ok

[chrome wave]

With a side of old crusty paint from a safety railing from next to the dentist office

[radiant wraith]

Sounds good

I've decided not to wait anymore, no amount of speculation or anticipation from me will make me play sooner

[chrome wave]

It Will grant you knowldge

[lost coyote]

I have simply decided to not wait anymore and just play silksong

[chrome wave]

You can play silksong right now with no console if you sit alone in a dark soundless room for long enough

Its gonna meet all your expectations and more

[lost coyote]

there is a solution to this team cherry could simply just release silksong

[ocean shuttle]

Meow

[stable current]

4 months and 1 day before e3, I believe that the developers are normal and will show the release trailer at e3

[chrome wave]

Silksong is out and you Just have to believe it

[ocean shuttle]

emo 😳

[chrome wave]

Who is this furry

[ocean shuttle]

What the fuck did you call me

[gusty vale]

🥴

[ocean shuttle]

I’m an emofelinobiologist

[chrome wave]

What the hell am i supposed to call you

[gusty vale]

Certified ss discussion moment

[chrome wave]

I got no idea what that is so ima assume its fake

[ocean shuttle]

I’m actually a lizard and my title is emofelinobiologist currently 🦎

[trim estuary]

No no shutteth yon uppeth

[wheat sail]

Gm

[ocean shuttle]

Emo felinologist biologist

[uncut citrus]

Ey Kirbstar

[ocean shuttle]

Kirbstar😳😳😳

[chrome wave]

The hell is that

What ancient language are you speaking

[ocean shuttle]

Emo scientist who studies felids and biology

Yes I am

[chrome wave]

Speak words that can be understood by a homeless man living in some shithole in the middle of nothing

[uncut citrus]

this is definitely a Reeves "hello" and Cathy "hello" moment,
Cathy with the ping and the flushed emotes, obviously

Cai would fight you

and you'll lose

[wheat sail]

hello reevres

[chrome wave]

How powerful is the spear

[chrome wave]

Hello kirbstar

[wheat sail]

hello abaddon

[uncut citrus]

is the spear powerful enough to get thought the cat ears?

[ocean shuttle]

:pogcanyon: :pogcanyon:

[uncut citrus]

"I wear a helmet so that i am only a soldier"

[chrome wave]

Captain ahab would have killed moby Dick with that spear in 2 micronanometers per hour

We have none

Flowre

[hushed wasp]

i am a lizard

mo

[wheat sail]

league moment

[chrome wave]

I want to eat metal

[uncut citrus]

This is a luxana moment*

[uncut citrus]

you too?

[chrome wave]

Obama is taking over (again)

[hushed wasp]

whats obamas last name

[chrome wave]

I always Wondered what ostrich eggs taste like

[uncut citrus]

why is this a mp4 and not a gif

[chrome wave]

I ate a kebab and thats about it

Some turkish man sells them from a shed near the drug gambling house

[hushed wasp]

i have never eaten turkish food in my life

[uncut citrus]

i have never eaten a turkish in my life

[hushed wasp]

i have

[uncut citrus]

you guys

[hushed wasp]

[uncut citrus]

you crazy guys

[wheat sail]

It is eat or be eaten

[hushed wasp]

😳

[uncut citrus]

somehow made overtake in my most used (on that computer)

[hushed wasp]

[zealous topaz]

I hate her so god damn much

[uncut citrus]

Burd I will hit a rock with your face.

[zealous topaz]

11 🥵

[uncut citrus]

Literally dont-

[hushed wasp]

i will face a rock with my hit

[sinful flare]

do we have any olds

[hushed wasp]

unique is old

[zealous topaz]

She has one move. Stun you then take all your health.

And ofc her ult exists

[wheat sail]

But shes cute

[uncut citrus]

ok maybe no

like no.

[wheat sail]

her Q should pierce 5 units

[uncut citrus]

[wheat sail]

also increase range and travel speed

[hushed wasp]

what are we talking about lmao

[sinful flare]

reevers what do you think about daylight saving time

[wheat sail]

E should have double the radius, ult should have 3 charges

[sinful flare]

dota2 ripiff
fuck

[hushed wasp]

whats dota

[sinful flare]

no i didnt

[wheat sail]

dota actually better but too hard for everyone 😔

[hushed wasp]

skissye

[sinful flare]

skissue

[hushed wasp]

no

[sinful flare]

no

[hushed wasp]

same

@ocean shuttle

[wheat sail]

ill make a new league hero. They will have a skill shot, a right click buff and a dash

[sinful flare]

my plan is to eradicate everyone who doesnt recommend daylight saving together

[hushed wasp]

is that five nughts atf funkin

who

[wheat sail]

friday nights at freddys

funkin freddys

[hushed wasp]

omg 🫀

[wheat sail]

when you rip out their organs 😔

[uncut citrus]

What

[hushed wasp]

no

[uncut citrus]

For once you too agree with me that No.

[harsh olive]

Five nights at shrek

[hushed wasp]

i will hit your rock with a face

stfu

[wheat sail]

cat boy maid

[violet sparrow]

LMAO FUCKING LOSER 💀

[uncut citrus]

I just read you message in hornet tent.
Can you not say that anymore.

[wheat sail]

🙂

[hushed wasp]

that happens automatically if someone gets hacked by a nitro link

[wheat sail]

Benji how was work

[hushed wasp]

nerds :amog

[wheat sail]

amog

[wary copper]

rather be a nerd than in the dumpster
i am sort of a nerd, but still in the dumps

[wheat sail]

rather be a smart fella than a fart smella

[uncut citrus]

Can’t disagree with that

[bleak scarab]

stupid bots

[wary copper]

there is valuable stuff people throw in the dumps

[uncut citrus]

Like dark candies

[olive bobcat]

[uncut citrus]

[hushed wasp]

i love mold

[olive bobcat]

🔥

[wheat sail]

we sniffing

[wary copper]

people are quite wasteful, i shall take opprotunity

[drowsy bluff]

is there a silksong demo? if yes, is it public?

[wheat sail]

yes

[uncut citrus]

Yes no

[drowsy bluff]

aw

[wary copper]

it is public, just 3 years ago

[uncut citrus]

But we have hornetsong-

[drowsy bluff]

where can i download it?

[uncut citrus]

sends hornet hovering gif

[wary copper]

you really just glossed over the joke out of sheer desperation

[olive bobcat]

E3 2019

[jolly tulip]

Thats the neat part, you dont

[drowsy bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

why u gotta do me like that

[wheat sail]

cause we are losers

[wary copper]

i did not do you, you just read "it is public" and went kooky

whatever "kooky" entails in this situation

[wheat sail]

they got to play ss today

[uncut citrus]

I bet Graig will go... malph again!

[jolly tulip]

Maple?

[coarse leaf]

who

[wheat sail]

their play testers

[coarse leaf]

how do you know?

[jolly tulip]

They, from dst

[wheat sail]

(i watched from outside)

[chrome wave]

Yeah there is this concrete shack in the middle of my town with Windows that are duct taped over a bunch of cameras around it and a strickt set of rules on the door, the inside has had people smoking crud in there and gambling for at least 30 years

[coarse leaf]

Im thinking of buying a ps5 just to play Elden Ring as an Astrologer 🤡

[wheat sail]

12:28 a.m.
Tuesday, March 1, 2022 (GMT+10:30)
Time in Adelaide SA, Australia

[chrome wave]

Also some turkish guy sells really good kebabs if all kinds near it

[languid linden]

So

[sinful flare]

Yeah i sell those (I dont)

[uncut citrus]

sad

[zealous topaz]

Practically every other champion

[worthy lichen]

Kaan (gaming)

[uncut citrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/930585110019964998/image0.gif

kaan strikes again

(didnt bouce)

[wheat sail]

xqc is streaming ss wtf 😳

[dusty nimbus]

[coarse leaf]

👀

[wheat sail]

SIUUUUUUUUUUUU

[jolly tulip]

lets hope tc wont see this

[coarse leaf]

Hmm

[torpid orchid]

any news about SS?

[gray swift]

[wheat sail]

maybe not

[coarse leaf]

Ngl i don't think we're gonna get any news thisnyear

[wheat sail]

not even jesus grist knows

[misty summit]

I think we COULD potentially get news this year but definitely not a release date

[coarse leaf]

i think he knows

[wheat sail]

they dont even feel they have time to write a paragraph after a year+

we not gonna get news anymore besides release date 😦

[misty summit]

:'/

[coarse leaf]

i think they going to release it this year to celebrate the 5 years, even if its in December

[misty summit]

That would be amazing but at the same time I don't believe it at all

[coarse leaf]

its still feb

[wheat sail]

yeah too early to say for sure

Think they would give a release date like 1 month in advance which there is still time for this year

[misty summit]

yea you probably right

[coarse leaf]

1 month really?

[wheat sail]

hollow knight was 2 weeks iirc

[coarse leaf]

yes

[wheat sail]

but ss is bigger so maybe a bit more time in advance

since they would be more comfortable with ss being done if they are making sure of that this time around

meanwhile for hk they were working on it right up to release and there were launch day issues

[coarse leaf]

honestly idk what's taking so long at this point almost March 2022.... like are they still making the story of the game? are they doing the localization? idk

[wheat sail]

probably implementing gameplay stuff

and art can take a while too

[coarse leaf]

is ss going to be the elden ring of TC? lets debate

in terms of dev time/quality

[wheat sail]

how good is elden compared to other souls games

[coarse leaf]

ridiculously better

in every way

[wheat sail]

SS has the potential to be

[coarse leaf]

it already is visually, but thats all we have to judge, we dont know anything about the gameplay

[wheat sail]

we know it seems a bit more acrobatic and more movement

[coarse leaf]

graig said its like HK with rpg elements

[olive bobcat]

Ah, the daily reasoning for why SS isn't out/predicting its release

[wheat sail]

🙂

[coarse leaf]

well, im just waiting for new games so what should I do

[wheat sail]

what kinda games you like

[coarse leaf]

Rpg, jrpg mostly

dragon quest, octopath traveler like graphics, bayonetta...

HK was my first and only metroidvania i've played

[wheat sail]

I like platformers but kinda suck at them

[coarse leaf]

oh no, i played blasphemous too

Hades, Shin Megami Tensei 5

[ornate beacon]

Play fe4 or omori.

[dusk bay]

2026

Calling it rn

[coarse leaf]

8 years of development i think not

[wheat sail]

After 8 years of development I hope it was worth the weight

[coarse leaf]

cyberpunk was not

[shell yacht]

i love it when yall guess how long game making takes like yall worked on games before
good to start each day laughing

[wheat sail]

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[coarse leaf]

So ss going to take 8 years confirmed

[dusk bay]

Why doncha make urself some companions

[wheat sail]

I would say most games take between 3-6 years

I am a game scientist or whatever you call it

[coarse leaf]

elden ring has taken 5 years

[stoic path]

I'm working on one right now, though it's a pixel art game and not as nice as SS. (Still takes time though)

[wheat sail]

hook me up i want 50/hour

[olive bobcat]

Gamerologist

[wheat sail]

Will not sleep until ss comes out

I might die so hurry up please

[olive bobcat]

iirc after 3 days hallucinations start and after about a week things really go downhill

[buoyant osprey]

didnt william come out and say we will get more news when theyre closer to release (meaning probs not for a hot minute)

[wheat sail]

I see the ss announcement and start playing

my loved ones meanwhile are looking at me in the hopital bed looking blanky at the ceiling

[coarse leaf]

it means what it means: more news closer to release
it doesnt mean release is closer or not

[buoyant osprey]

if it were close, he wouldnt have a need to say that in the first place

[coarse leaf]

maybe he said that because TC doesnt want to give big news to PCgamer instead they want to give them themselves (?)

its logical

[buoyant osprey]

why would they feel a need to give news at all when they havent felt a need to do that in a while

[coarse leaf]

pcgamer aproached william, what was he supposed to do

[buoyant osprey]

not answer them

[coarse leaf]

thats rude and TC has a good relationship with pcgamer

[buoyant osprey]

like a lot of people do when they have more important things to do

[wheat sail]

they can do whatever they want to do

[coarse leaf]

and they've had for a long time now

[buoyant osprey]

no ones saying they cant

[wheat sail]

they should just make a blog

[dusty nimbus]

Woah valve is making a game unfortunately there is no 3

[buoyant osprey]

they should just keep doing what they want to do

[wheat sail]

ppl acting like it would delay the game by a month if they did

[coarse leaf]

making a blog probably does delay it

[buoyant osprey]

maybe theyve already revealed more than they wanted to and want to leave more for the players to find

[wheat sail]

yes but in the grand scheme maybe a little

[coarse leaf]

Valve only hires people who can’t count to three

[wheat sail]

also its been more than a year so

[buoyant osprey]

"tc should do what they want to do"
"tc should make a blog"
lol

[coarse leaf]

EDGE was big news, Leth already said why would we want more news after EDGE

[buoyant osprey]

yea

[coarse leaf]

Likely by early 2024
My chakras told me so

[buoyant osprey]

yea im expecting 2023-2024

[dusk bay]

How big is tc again

[shell yacht]

yes

[buoyant osprey]

3 people

[wintry wagon]

WHEN SILKSONG

[dusk bay]

Oh yeah we ain't seeing this game for a while

[wheat sail]

they just should 🙂

[buoyant osprey]

they just should do what they want to do and not what people are trying to pressure them to do 🙂

[wheat sail]

im not telling them to do anything so you can be rest assured

[high hedge]

Are we done talking about Elden Ring?

[buoyant osprey]

going back to playing elden ring bye 🦄

[high hedge]

Nice

[coarse leaf]

i want a ps5 😔

Who doesn’t

[high hedge]

People who already have one

[coarse leaf]

Okay

people who want a pc or xbox instead

[wheat sail]

and some people who don't

[high hedge]

Do you think Bill Gates’ grandkids have PS5s?

[coarse leaf]

Probably

[dusk bay]

Is Elden ring on xbox?

[high hedge]

Yeah

[sinful flare]

sleep is kinda bad anyways it decreases your hunger faster but regens your sanity like pick flowers god damn it flowers restore 5 sanity once you pick them

[high hedge]

It’s on PS4 and Xbox One as well

[wary copper]

but if you run out of flowers, butterflies will no longer spawn

[high hedge]

It’s basically just not on Switch

[coarse leaf]

is this a dst reference

[wheat sail]

is this dont starve

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-hate-always-gif-18852948

[coarse leaf]

I will sleep as much as possible until Silksong comes out so time goes by aqap

[wheat sail]

20 years later

[radiant wraith]

I will live normally until Silksong comes out and then I will keep living normally

[coarse leaf]

Cringe!

[sinful flare]

i always hated silksong

[high hedge]

Another game I was looking forward to is releasing next month so I’m looking forward to that

[wheat sail]

enter the gungeon: cogs of war

[high hedge]

Third Gungeon game time

[coarse leaf]

i will silksong as possible as much until Sleep comes out so apaq goes by time

[high hedge]

Maybe one day I’ll play Exit the Gungeon

[wheat sail]

i still need to beat the rat boxing boss battle

idk punch out controls and mechanics tho

[high hedge]

I remember needing a few attempts to do it

A bit tougher since your items don’t affect it

[sinful flare]

exit the gungeon looks very addicting

compared to enter the gungeon i think nzzzzzzzzzz

[coarse leaf]

Hi chaat

[sinful flare]

which checkpoint are you at

[high hedge]

Interesting. I was a bit uneasy to play it because it was made as a mobile game

[sinful flare]

i didnt even know it was made for a mobile game it just looks good and addicting on the trailer

[coarse leaf]

I'm about halfway through 4 at the room with the kevin, i'll get on in 8-9 hours and try to get to checkpoint 5 or 6

[sinful flare]

can you stream (or screenshot)

[high hedge]

Yeah it was an Apple Arcade exclusive for a year

[sinful flare]

...for... a year?

[coarse leaf]

I can get you a screenshot of the room, gimme a moment

[sinful flare]

oh

_ _

[high hedge]

I assume they made it as a deal with Apple

[wheat sail]

Cult of the lamb seems interesting

[high hedge]

I think originally it was said the plan was to keep the game exclusively mobile

Cult of the lamb looks so cute

[wheat sail]

cant wait to sacrifice animals to satan

[languid linden]

Hello chat

[coarse leaf]

kaan this is the room

[sinful flare]

ok once you know how to do it it's kinda easy

[coarse leaf]

i know how to do it

anyways ill continue in 8-9 hours

goal is to beat the rest of checkpoint 4 today

and start checkpoint 5

as i said my goal is farewell by the end of this week

[ocean shuttle]

God elden ring is hard goddam

[coarse leaf]

m

but is it fun, cathy the emofelinobiologist

[young crown]

is that farewell

[coarse leaf]

yup

[small goblet]

did you expect it to be easy

[ocean shuttle]

Not this hard, goddamm some normal enemies here are harder then the entirety of sekiro combined

[silver oak]

[small goblet]

are you sure you're in first area and not like in some endgame shit?

[ocean shuttle]

Yeah

[young crown]

ah so you are a souls veteran here i thought it was your first souls game

btw does killing groups of enemies replenish your estus?

[small goblet]

yep

or just a couple of big enemies i think

[young saffron]

freaking farewell

I got fed up and started trying spring collab 2020
did about half :v

[young crown]

i stopped after i reached that thing where i need 15 blue hearts

[cerulean sable]

obligatory string and piano loving bitches (of course you are yall cant even live without listening to bonebottom)

just reminding of yall daily that soldats inconnus mémoires de la grande guerre is based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cg2pNpXgiM

[young crown]

if i attempt that, im only going to lose a part of myself

[small goblet]

valiant hearts

[silver oak]

move this to #off-topic thanks

[ocean shuttle]

I'm fighting ||mad pumpkin head|| rn and goddamm, in that arena as a mage it's so fucking hard

[cerulean sable]

nice try but the celeste coalition wont stop me

[young crown]

mage huh? interesting

[small goblet]

yeah as an astrologer you always hit him in his ||head||, i personally switched to melee for this

[cerulean sable]

big tip for elden ring players

step 1

play bandit

step 2

dual wield bleed daggers

[coarse leaf]

This is NOT Silksong….

[cerulean sable]

congrats you can now destroy 80% of the bosses

[ocean shuttle]

Who asked

[small goblet]

or just take astrologer

[coarse leaf]

you've done half of spring collab? holy hell! also, where are you in farewell?

[cerulean sable]

we kinda stopped caring because noone ever talks about Silksong shit anymore

not until it release that is

here watch

[ocean shuttle]

Also, ||what the fuck is margit the fell and why the fuck is he impossible to kill, feel like I need to fucking grind stats for 60h before I can even do dmg to him||

[coarse leaf]

Make an elden ring channel

[young saffron]

no no, just started spring collab I did half of farewell xd

[long comet]

I started Elden Ring as samurai because he looks cool.

[coarse leaf]

I’m not gonna play elden ring because money

[small goblet]

yeah you better prepare for this battle, but you won't find much upgrades for it anyway

[long comet]

Feel free to tell me how bad my decision was

[cerulean sable]

why are people so against the inclusion of assist mode in the form of easy mode in Silksong?

Honestly it would be great to allow other players to enjoy the rest of the game's content without the difficult boss fights

[coarse leaf]

And ihhh Nintendo switch beta male

[cerulean sable]

sometimes i feel like this fanbase is just too sensitive and gatekeepy with regards of how to "correctly play the game"

[coarse leaf]

I'll play Astrologer or Prisoner 🥺

[cerulean sable]

it shouldnt really hurt anyones experience if they added an easy mode

[wheat sail]

yeah its okay to play easy mode. just have fun 👶

[coarse leaf]

Yeah they could always just not play in easy mode dummy dummies

[long comet]

Because those people grew up with Dark Souls and will not accept anything less than complete mastery

[woven rampart]

what would be a definition of easy mode?
less hp on bosses or slower?

[cerulean sable]

slower attack speeds

lower boss health

[long comet]

Maybe more iframes?

[coarse leaf]

Yeah lower health seems artificial

[cerulean sable]

its not hard to implement either

[coarse leaf]

Or maybe the bosses just have less moves

[small goblet]

just personal opinion and it's alright if people disagree with me, but the main thing of souls likes is difficulty, and you should feel rewarded for beating a certain hard boss
and if you need an easy mode just take pyromancer

[ocean shuttle]

I just got dual wielded by ||Mad pumpkin when he had 0,1% hp left||

[wheat sail]

spoilers bro

[cerulean sable]

SEE what i mean, nothing gets this chat talking more than Silksong and difficulty

[coarse leaf]

Since we know a lot of things will deal double damage an easy mode could be so that double damage is much less common

[cerulean sable]

i remember waking up after a nap and people were still arguing about assist modes

[wheat sail]

free time

[ocean shuttle]

I really like the addition of marika statues, goddam they help so much

[cerulean sable]

i really like the marika statues

i honestly dont find it challenging to run back to an area

[silver oak]

by "this fanbase," do you mean "everyone who has ever beaten a video game"?

[split tide]

If TC wanted to a basic assist mode like celeste wouldn’t impact most players at all

[coarse leaf]

What are marka statues

[coarse leaf]

OH LMAO my bad, but i hope ur having fun in spring collab, and i hope you'll be able to finish farewell when you're ready

[cerulean sable]

yo dont flame me im literally just holding it out like obvs bait

[young saffron]

tbh I got bored of farewell xd
spring collab is fun so far

[coarse leaf]

i got bored of ss

[cerulean sable]

i personally dont give a fuck about an easy mode for SS

but the arguements out of it is pretty good read tho

[silver oak]

I feel too old to understand this and I'm younger than you

[cerulean sable]

stay down then kiddo

[coarse leaf]

nice, yeah farewell is uh well, interesting

[coarse leaf]

same like i wouldnt play easy on SS but if someone wants to then do it

[small goblet]

||you get teleported to them when you die so you don't have to run a long way to the boss||

[sly summit]

Hiii any news?

[young saffron]

no

[wheat sail]

easy mode bad

[coarse leaf]

An easy mode for SS would probably follow something like this:

• double damage less common
• bosses have less attacks
• lower enemy density

An easy mode should not just be a walking simulator there still needs to be a slight difficult curve

As least as far as we know about as currently

i dont think they'll put easy mode

[small goblet]

yeah they won't

[coarse leaf]

Probably not but people are gonna whine for one

no they wont, we all know how HK works

[radiant wraith]

Assist mode is based

[wheat sail]

just have good modding support and have someone make a mod for easy weazy mode

[silver oak]

just because it was like that in HK doesn't mean it will be like that in SS

[sly summit]

I have never heard someone says "hk requires an ez mode"

[silver oak]

It's one game, there's no trend or pattern

[coarse leaf]

i mean the style and everything

its a bug metroidvania

Honestly I can’t see a real reason why TC wouldn’t made an easy mode other than it costing more time to release SS

People who whines about hk’s difficulty would be satisfied and the only people who’d be upset are people who aren’t even gonna play easy mode

[silver oak]

oh ok, I forgot that in the wide and varied genre of bug metroidvanias not one has an easy mode

[radiant wraith]

Assist mode with sliders is better than easy mode

[coarse leaf]

Sliders?

[ocean shuttle]

DEFEATED ||PUMPKIN HEAD WITH SPELLS ONLY ||

[radiant wraith]

Adjust stuff like boss hp with a slider

[split tide]

They almost certainly won’t, this is just hypothetical

[misty shale]

adding an easy mode lets more people experience it so imo its better for the game

[sly summit]

I am not in favor at all of an easy mode but if there is one its not like imma cry

[split tide]

Assist mode is similar enough to easy mode tbh

[small goblet]

damn congrats, it's hard to beat him as a pure mage

[split tide]

Assist just implies more customizability I guess, which I’m always in favour for

[radiant wraith]

Someone else plays easy mode, how does that worse my experience whatsoever?

[sly summit]

Assist mode is a cheat engine imo

[wheat sail]

they have an inferior experience because its too easy

[silver oak]

Not if it's built into the game

[cerulean sable]

see i told yall this is the fastest way to spark a Silksong related debate

[split tide]

It’s not necessarily inferior just because too easy

[radiant wraith]

That's none of my business, people should play however they want to play

[coarse leaf]

Lowering boss health seems like artificial sweetener

If the easy mode does just lower enemy health than it’s really an “””””easy”””””” mode

[silver oak]

touche

[sly summit]

I am in favor of a pure and only vision from part of the autor, may be 100s of interpretations but... You know

[wheat sail]

and tc has to design with an easy mode in mind which would make the game worse

[split tide]

Not if it’s separate from the main game

[coarse leaf]

Easy mode paid dlc

[split tide]

And TC can always just point to it and say “this is not the intended experience” etc.

[radiant wraith]

That's why I prefer an assist mode, if you see Celeste's assist mode it warns you that it is a worse version of the experience, but it gives you access anyways, it trusts you to decide

[wheat sail]

not if they spend less time on the actual experience than worrying about "if its easy mode we have to do this or change that"

[sly summit]

Its a fair point

[split tide]

Not to mention difficulty is highly subjective

[radiant wraith]

Celeste's assist mode probably didn't involve any changes in design decisions at all

[split tide]

The idea behind a customizable assist mode should be to help players tailor the experience to their own notion of difficulty

[hexed crow]

honestly i think TC will only release silksong when they're sure it'll be the best game of all time

[wheat sail]

I doubt there will be one

[hexed crow]

or at least better than the original

[split tide]

Of course there won’t, these are hypothetical discussions

[cerulean sable]

well rest assured uhh thats kinda whats happening

[coarse leaf]

It’ll be the opposite of cyberpunk 2076

[radiant wraith]

People say difficult bosses are about struggling and getting better, but the amount you struggle depends on how good you are in the first place. If you struggle 5 times as much as everyone else, that, is not the intended experience.

[wheat sail]

and good thing there wont be an easy mode

[cerulean sable]

they had to early release HK because they were running out of budget

[split tide]

Nothing we say here will change anything about what TC will do, and that’s very much for the good

[cerulean sable]

which isnt a concern anymore for SS

[wheat sail]

they can focus on one experience rather than for multiple groups of people

[radiant wraith]

No easy mode, just assist mode with sliders

[cerulean sable]

i have a FEELING that SS is gonna be what HK wouldve been in the first place had they not ran out of budget and time

[sly summit]

I know everyone doesnt think like me, but I love that satysfaction of doing something, the best moment of my life was when I did p5 all bindings, so I am in favor to a unique story with then something that u can add like bindings

[nimble radish]

always better to have less options, I hope they don't let us change the controls either

[wheat sail]

infinite silk, 1 mask damage always, double healing time

[radiant wraith]

I understand not asking for a balanced easy mode, but tools to make adjustments are justifiable and do not need changes in design

[split tide]

Assuming that they do have the time and resources, and I want to make this exceedingly clear that this is a hypothetical, then adding an assist/easy wouldn’t change much for anyone

[hexed crow]

honestly probably better than it would've been

[coarse leaf]

Holy shit assist mode is a mode where you can choose to make the boss easier (less attacks, no double damage) after dying a certain number of times

[radiant wraith]

I've played games that had assist mode before and my experience was affected not at all. I don't see any reason to deny this feature to someone else when it doesn't affect my experience

[wheat sail]

yeah if the controls are good already we dont need to change them but its already a feature in hk so 🤷

[cerulean sable]

oh yeah btw guys keep it civil

or we will 😊

[split tide]

that smiley is menacing

[cerulean sable]

cuz im fuckin outta here since its 12AM

[uncut citrus]

🙂

[silver oak]

civil more like civil war

[hexed crow]

i don't want an assist mode

i know for a fact that i'll give in and use it

[cerulean sable]

i hate avengers so dont expect anymore responses from me

[coarse leaf]

Taco what do you think of assist mode being a mode where you can make the bosses easier after dying too much to them

[sinful flare]

silksong discussion? boo

[cerulean sable]

no idea im just here to kill sherma bro

as long as i attain that they can add wtv they want

[radiant wraith]

Someone who doesn't like struggling against bosses for hours very much, why should I deny the exploration experience to that person?

[split tide]

Controls should always be remappable

[nimble radish]

as long as it's optional and off by default, no one is going to be against it

[silver oak]

Realistically, how fast do you think it will take for the first people to 100% silksong

[worthy lichen]

SHERMA NOOOO

[split tide]

There’s zero good reason to force controls to be unmappable

[radiant wraith]

Can't know

[hexed crow]

4 days min

[cerulean sable]

again, assist mode discussion never fails to work

[wheat sail]

bro 3 days

[split tide]

it is silksong related at least

[cerulean sable]

i know because this is the 4th time this has happened

[ocean shuttle]

||I BOUGHT THE SWORD SORCERY AND GODDAMM ITS GOOD AND FUN ||

[silver oak]

I'm not talking about time, I'm talking about days
How insane are people basically

[ocean shuttle]

||THE GAME IS FINALLY FUN😳||

[wheat sail]

also ss should be remappable i agree. way more important than easy squeezy mode

[cerulean sable]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/sxy1kb/accessibility_isnt_easy_what_easy_mode_debates/

[split tide]

Honestly assuming people like fireborn can take a whole day off to play it might just be the day

[silver oak]

You can't say you're leaving and then keep fanning the flames

That's not how you're supposed to play the game

[cerulean sable]

ok im leaving for sure

just reminded me of this article ok

[wheat sail]

hollow knight players will feel right at home

[hexed crow]

the normal time it takes to 100% someones first playthrough on HK is usually 90~ hours

[wheat sail]

dont need to cater for new players coming from the hype

[hexed crow]

assuming silksong will be around twice as big as HK

probably a week min

[split tide]

There are some “accessibility” things that really should be part of most games tbh, like good font size

[split tide]

You do realise SS will be designed for new players?

[coarse leaf]

not ONLY for new players tho

[hexed crow]

my friend currently has 40 hours on his save file and doesn't even have the dream nail yet cause the bosses are too hard
he still loves it

[coarse leaf]

40 hours in and the bosses are still too hard for him?.....

[split tide]

HK players probably aren’t going to be accounted for much for most of the game, and that’s good

[wheat sail]

sounds bad

[hexed crow]

not designed for new players

designed so that you don't have to play the original to understand it

[radiant wraith]

sounds great

[wheat sail]

how does making a sequel then not accounting for players from the first game good exactly

[split tide]

Otherwise only the all binding nolifers will be able to play it

[radiant wraith]

it's a different game

[split tide]

Yeah it’s not a direct sequel

At best it’ll only have tangential connections to HK

[coarse leaf]

SS story will have nothing in common with HK

[hexed crow]

its not designed for new players of the genre

just new players to the series

doesn't mean they'll make it easier tho

[split tide]

Well no not easier necessarily, but also not necessarily harder

[hexed crow]

probably something like elden ring where its really accessible but not easier

[split tide]

My point is that difficulty is probably going to be fairly similar overall for first-timers to the series

[ocean shuttle]

i went I WENT IN TOE HFUCKING CAVES THE CAVES CAVES

AND THEY DROPPED A FUCKING BOMB ON ME, THESE ARCHAIC FUCCKING MIDDLE AGES MIDGETS DROPPED A BOMB ON ME

[split tide]

And that SS won’t have some uber-hard crap immediately to accommodate all the pros

Mind you there probably will be uber-hard crap, just very late into the game and optional

[ocean shuttle]

God elden ring man

[wheat sail]

[radiant wraith]

I'd like to play a new game, it's no longer Hornet dlc

[cunning geode]

obligatory “play x game then” punchline

[wheat sail]

how different do you want it to be

[radiant wraith]

Good is all that matters to me

[wheat sail]

doubt it

[copper knot]

why dont you play with some bitche-

[radiant wraith]

doubt all you want

[wheat sail]

ss is now a good puzzle game idk

[radiant wraith]

I was about to type about that

[ocean shuttle]

😳😳😳

[wheat sail]

its a good racing game

[uncut citrus]

Cathy no...

[radiant wraith]

Sure, I want something about how Hollow Knight plays, but it's a different game and I want stuff to feel new

[split tide]

Sweet SS is now a new RTS game

[wheat sail]

it'll feel new enough with tools and different moves with hornet

[cunning geode]

Real Time Silk game

[radiant wraith]

That's great

I was just kinda against what I heard so much in this chat about returning characters and Shade Lord and Pale King, etc, etc

New characters sounds better to me

[cunning geode]

you mean, people in this channel talking about how they want old characters to return?

Oh, yeah.

I see a lot of people saying that but I don’t think they understand how detracting that would be

[wheat sail]

itll be good for returning players from hollow knight. new players should actually just get good

[radiant wraith]

"It would be cool if Shade Lord was the final boss" I heard, but wouldn't it be cooler if we didn't know who the final boss is yet? the same way we didn't when we played Hollow Knight?

[worthy lichen]

just play hollow knight :4head:

[hushed wasp]

agressively gatekeeps (cutely)

[cunning geode]

🤨

[ocean shuttle]

cutely gatekeeps together

[radiant wraith]

You are in #sk-discussion Wombat

[hushed wasp]

😳 hello cat

[ocean shuttle]

😳

[cunning geode]

No way, really!

[radiant wraith]

Anyways, Assist Mode good, new stuff good

[hushed wasp]

I actually disagree

[wheat sail]

assist mode can be good

[silver oak]

you are the wombat, you are the #sk-discussion

[hushed wasp]

WTF REEVERS GOW FYS ?

[ocean shuttle]

**Burd - 63/63 ** is typing...

[cunning geode]

I’ll consider it

[wary copper]

assist mode
what does that entail again?

[hushed wasp]

@uncut citrus how did you find my steam account 😭

[wheat sail]

also they wont do it so

[copper knot]

random tidbit: im ok if tc added an easy mode. i just dislike people who force tc to make silksong have an easy mode as developing an easy mode isnt easy

[radiant wraith]

No easy mode, a lot of effort for a version that will be probably worse regardless, but Assist Mode sounds good since it's more customizable and more honest and more accessible

[split tide]

Not one single person here is forcing TC to add anything

[wheat sail]

fax

[split tide]

TC doesn’t give a shit about random discussions here, and thank fuck for that

[radiant wraith]

Assist mode is not easy mode

[uncut citrus]

[silver oak]

ttacco brought up easy mode to prove a point that arguments here are easy and he was right

[copper knot]

ive seen people whos like "tc pleeeease add easy mode i cant do hollow knight 😢 😭"

[wheat sail]

"I typed what I want here. that means TC must do it and i am trying to make them do it :)"

[hushed wasp]

NO SERIOUSLY HOW

[radiant wraith]

Assist mode is NOT easy mode, that's why I ask for assist mode instead

[uncut citrus]

Did you ever thought you were safe, Burd.

[hushed wasp]

silksong but enemies deal 50% of normal damage

[ocean shuttle]

Burd, Cathy and sans are in chat, the holy trinity of catgirls/boys

[split tide]

Ah those posts, fair enough

[hushed wasp]

THE PROPHECY IS FULFILLED

[wheat sail]

like congrats some people think the game is hard