#sk-discussion
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So is it out?
But not hollow knight
yeah. but as graig said, who cares about that
silksong releases when giant enemy fool says it will
graig plays league so idk
good point. cant be trusted
oppinion immediately invalidated
"Silksong news for 10000 geo" - red-named sly creature
I can get that
dang. only 10000 geo?
just give me a while 
proof that if you play Lol your opinion is invalid
Just 10000 geo
at least he doesn't play genshin
I always look for possible League accounts before voting presidents
League playing president. 
Mark and Ian, what time is it down there for you? Just curious
11:11 pm
now graig gets angry and delays Silksong
genshin players when they get arrested (they have to go outside)
yup
gracias
minecraft players when you tell them to craft a job application and get a job
"alert: missile strike inbound"
thats paper around a workbench. pretty easy to make.
oh no. It is him.
@coarse leaf
It's more fun to do things yourself
oh yeah, I said that
Ian
no
U ready for the +700 Instagram stories of couples
I don't really use Instagram, do we really have people here celebrating Valentine's?
I'm ready for 3/4 of my friends to flex on me and make fun of me tomorrow
Why wait 
yeah man lol, it's full of them
I thought that was an american thing
Silksong
WAIT
Dang americans, why are your ways so infectious?
Halloween is getting here too
because we invade other countries for oil
Don't know why, although Valentine's is celebrated here
also communism 
I saw a guy dressed as a rhombus on halloween
because that always went well
Honestly the people who post stories of "another valentine's alone" bother me more than the ones who post stories with their lover
And some furries pretending that they were using regular Halloween costumes
I have returned
Lmao
Very smart
I don't understand how furries manage to not melt in those suits
If you spend 2000 dollars + on something, you wear it as much as you can
they do
also, how do they go to the bathroom?
They have no Valentine at least let them have the #foreveralone clout post for the day
Brown fur
we don't talk about it
Do not ask that question again
moving on...
I would reply to those stories with that meme of Mr Incredible saying "please shut the fuck up"
let me complain about my loneliness ffs
another valentines day alone
I guess love just isn't meant for me, forever alone
nobody loves me 
I would reply L + Ratio
I'm lonely as well
Unless... 
L + ratio
Literally, like, nobody cares you're alone shut up
r-reevers 
I am noticing relationships in hk almost never go well
Elden Ratio
wdym the nailsmith has one that ends well
Malenia the Savage
If you marry a tree they don't
iselda and corny, nailsmith and sheo
I believe Silksong hasn't come out yet cuz Elden Ring would ratio it
"Almost"
I'd risk it all on the white lady ngl
cry
She's a tree
I am crying
Y’know that coral boss that was in the ss reveal trailer? How is canon for a bug to control coral
Yes, a very, VERY horny tree
Caioio is rapidly approaching your location
just like me and carmelita 
probably isnt
We have a bug that can control poo, coral is just a less gross way of doing that
god damn
She literally says so lmao
||she canonically is but lets maybe... not...||
he's not wrong
i dont think he controls it 
I mean, if the world's sake depended on how much I have to make children I would probably do it even if I don't enjoy it after the first 400 times
maybe not continue this path...
however, that doesn't mean he's right, drop it
yeah we should stop
I would simply let the world die.
anyways, valentines day!
He kind of does, that attack where he dives into it and it shoots out of the floor is not natural, that shit has to be magic
why won't the slowmode alert go off my screen 
And a worm that can birth other worms at will
happens the same to me
It's just constantly hovering there above my keyboard
you got a point 
it's 10 seconds of slow mode tho
You think any of the other vessels that escaped the abyss could end up in silksong
The not dead ones
nah bro I thought dead ones can move my bad
Maybe
||so noone||
I'm a dumbass they're all dead even the moving ones
maybe we could have a secret wall where you can find a vessel corpse
You get what I mean
I was literally typing that

I don't want to be a pessimist, but I don't think many of them made it out, and if they did they probably didn't get very far
Team Cherry really liked the idea of dead children in their game huh
I think we only know of like 4-6 of them
I mean 1/1000+ is ridiculous odds. By sheer probability more than the knight/ghost had to actually make it outside hallownest
Stop it why
i really dont want to see much of HK in silksong, im a sucker for mostly self contained sequels
||of course, im a jojo fan||
the knight, thk, greenpath baybe, broken vessel, and there's like 1 or 2 in nosk's lair
no need to bring dead children to Silksong too
I think it would be to Silksong's benefit if it didn't make many, if at all, callbacks to HK and focused on its new kingdom and story.
literally this
all shade lord boss battle theorists can eat my pants
yeah I just want a wallpaper and thats it
theres more like 4-5 in nosk lair
we know of a few supposedly, one being the weavers
but the most important being mr mushroom
plz mr mushroom in silksong 
TC did say they wanted Silksong to be able to be someone's first HK game so leaning heavily on callbacks wouldn't make much sense.
yeah i wouldn't mind small stuff like a dead vessel in a hidden area, but most stuff from hk wouldn't work narratively
I mean it said to be continued 
I like new stuff more
We already have a mushroom in SS
silence, non believer
How yall feel about the “news”
Ngl I feel the opposite, mystery and answer plotholes/unknowns can both exist, to barely or not at all expand on previous concepts. It doesn't have to be direct, just things we know, like seals, higher beings, tribes, sages etc there don't actually need to be vessels. Just concepts hk started not actual hk content
Much room for these mushrooms. 
I personally prefer that TC stays in silence because now I open my youtube and there are 50 videos of 10 minutes talking about a 10 words long sentence
i think the furthest you could push callbacks to hk without it being either confusing to new players or nonsensical narratively is ogrim showing up
and even that's pushing it
he's only a playtester, cope
Graig can go eat a lumafly then
mmm tasty fly
How would you guys feel if Hornet actually had a romanitic subplot in SS?

It'll make his insides melt
thanks for the info
brb eating lumaflies
Yooo fluke omelette
yeah, there was a few that did escape aside TK
I hope you get un-pinned
the only hk character i actually expect to see is mister mushroom, ogrim is just the only other character i can justify appearing
I do deny it, the power of that relationship cannot compare to the raw energy of carmelita
cope and seethe
The other vessels have no purpose now, they should just stop moving and be over with it
They are useless now
cope and seethe
Or become pin sellers
I don't see that going any other way than being persona 5 bug edition so pls no
I'd try to ignore it
That could be interesting, vessels with no purpose who haven't died and just wander
Romance Trobbio
my deal with ogrim is just "alive, still loyal to pk, likely aware of hornet's existence/identity"
Only if SS is a sequel. It probably is based on the fact hornet doesn't use all the skills and tools she gets
look at this little vessel
is [random silksong npc] void
Im sure it's a vessel mhm mhm yeah 
It is. I emailed william and he said so
just like how zote is a vessel
greenpath vessel has the same horns iirc
You're all vessels...for something great!
Did TC actually say they'd expand more on the 5 knights? That could be interesting.
for the infection that is #sk-discussion
Don't do that, don't give me hope 
Zote is an impostor
actually i guess hegemol could still be on the table
You mean pooldonutzero?
Remember the Sly is Hegemol truthers 
You killed him, he was a grub remember?
the armor is hegemol 
the maggot isn't hegemol
A grub
Didn't it state that the maggot stole Hegemol's armor?
the knight is hegemol
Hegemol is the grub in crystal peaks
you are hegemol 
Hegemol is dead
okay, cool it with the spam.
Do NOT question GEF
I think he means Hegemol the guy who owned it before the maggot stole the armor
The maggot cant be hegemol because no one likes maggots 👍
He was a grub
I feel it
Dryya was almost alive and a boss
that knowledge pains me everytime I remember
just like how nobody likes you
Drrya as in the girl by the White lady?
I was kidding, we worship you 
hegemol was the armor
Yes
I'm gonna set this slime on fire
The armor made Hegemol
you fool I made that joke already
yeah but youre not funny
Hegemol is naked and lost
dead 2
May🅱️e
Zote took my hoe, this must be how kanye feels
okay but actually?
yeah well my dad owns discord and he'll ban you!!!!!!!!!
pro🅱️a🅱️ly
Zote deserves better, get some bugsies
I just want r sleep, period
r sleep? ok phone
anyways I'm going to bed, goodnight gamers 
Called me a beast, that hurt 
nite
G'night

found a random hollownest discussion, this should put you to sleep
me too probably, gn 

HAPPY 3RD ANNIVERSARY SILKSONG TRAILER 🎊
sorry for living in the wrong side of the world
Oh damn right it’s the Silksong trailer’s 3rd anniversary
Time to watch it again and again and again and again
I watched it like at least 2 times per day since it came out
I haven’t watched it in two years
I’ve been watching elden ring trailers every day tho
Elden ring uh
But at least I know the release date 
HYPE, been doing the same and looking at the subreddit.
11 more days...
I wonder if I should get it... seems like a game I would enjoy
But isn’t it like 60$ or something
Yea, it's 60, standard AAA fare.
Yeah but 100% worth it

Did you play the Network Test at all?
How long will it probably be?
Sadly I didn’t know it existed until too late
30 hours if you rush main path
Easily double with optional content
Yea, at least as long as DS3 I'd say. But it's their biggest game yet so I'd say that you'd get way more out of it if you take your time and explore.
And multiple endings
I mean elden ring, or are you talking about it but then we already know that much about it?
We know enough to know it’s game of the year contender
We know quite little about the game as a whole but my educated guess is that it would be no shorter than DS3.
Not contender, IS
relevant to this conversation
Oh shit, that stuff got leaked?
Nah
i took it from one of mordecai's videos
They talked about the classes recently
woah
im waiting for elden ring but forgot the release date and am too lazy to look it up
Those weapons have to be wrong
25th
Ah, I see. What's an Estoc and Buckler btw?
No
Buckler is smol shield
estoc is a thrusting sword, it was in the ds games
Fucking, long sword and halberd on vagabond who we’ve seen with a claymore?
Yeah a buckler’s some kind of shield
yeah the weapons don't match the class art in several cases
So it seems if I want to go for a spellblade-ish build, I'd have to chose between Prisoner or Astrologer.
Ain’t buying it

Not elden ring, that weapon list
If you wanna build it perfectly play wretch
Oh, lol.
Already pre-ordered lol
but i'm baaaaaad
oh thats pretty soon, great
Okay I think I’m gonna wait till everyone finished elden ring to check with em if it was really that good then I’ll get it
wretch probably has too many points in faith/arcane
same except I wait for about 30 minutes to make sure it’s not super buggy 
(And possibly play silksong in between????)
Soo true
Anyways bye

if you think waiting 3 years for silksong is bad
try waiting 9 years for the worlds most epic game: burrito galaxy 65
From already said they're working on a Day 1 patch as we speak so hopefully that will fix any, if all, problems.
i'm worried confessor is going to be completely outclassed for pvp
wretch too but that's always the case
OOOOOOOHHHHH
You can add points?
i wonder if my computer can run elden ring..
GAMING ❗ ❗
JONNY ‼️
I think I’ll go with prophet or confessor because I’m assuming catalyst is magic
for pvp you generally target a specific level, for example ds3 "meta" is between sl120 and sl150, so every point that a class starts with in a stat they don't use is a wasted level
im truly waiting super mario galaxy 65
this msg opened my eyes
Tomorrow marks the final countdown,
the start of the 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 countdown.
for example, luck is terrible in ds3, so the two classes that are regularly used for pvp builds are the classes that start with the lowest luck
I guess but theres always a gimmick build options
for silksong? yeah
Luck is terrible, laughs in hollow anri’s straight sword
i stopped playing ds3 at DA
not because it was too hard but i lost interest kinda

Laughs in bleed build
anri ss can't be infused and bleed got nerfed hard
I think my first build will be a strength unga bunga club build
Hello, SPEAKER OF THE FALSEHOOD
I hope there's a weapon like the Aquamarine dagger in Elden Ring, That's my favorite weapon I've seen in DS3 so far. Plus, the Moonlight Greatsword has got to make a comeback of course.
There might be a great club
Idk man, my bleed build was pretty strong
u all arent fools, u are the entire colosseum
it was shown in one of the trailers
i know innate bleed weapon with carthus rouge was relevant years ago but from what i know of ds3 nowadays bleed is pretty niche
aaaaaaaaaa
bbbbbbbbbbbbbb
Wardens twinblades is really strong
maybe I go a flail guy
It’s a #hk-meme user 
yeah i don't think anyone uses wardens now
Friede, bring me my flail.
I will pick generic knight with sword
The build I was planning on going for with DS3 was a Heysel's Pick/Spellblade build since I know you can true melee combo into the weapon in your other hand and with certain magic blade spells.
i can definitely see wardens being more relevant back pre-nerf, paired weapon with innate bleed and applied carthus rouge is a cool idea to build around
I feel like there are going to be a lot more spellblades in ER, just a hunch tho
It still works
I will pick a magic knight cause spell so far look cool
I'm all for it. I love spellblades and the Carrion stuff we've seen so far looks awesome.
A perfectly valid option, my main build will be straight sword, bow, and catalyst with a few utility spells
I feel like there should be a way to manually aim the bow spells
Does Hornet take knockback when attacking? I can't tell
Second build will be magic focused
Maybe?

i've been leaning towards astrologer, dex/int with a utility amount of str
Hell yeah
Ello chatnor'
DEFY THE ANTI CHRIST
i've mentioned this before but i'm really curious about arcane because it's the equivalent of ds3 luck
It’ll affect other status I think
but the network test descriptions say that it'll affect the scaling of some sorceries/incantations and it might be a wielding requirement for some useful weapons
Praying that Silksong becomes number 1 after Elden Ring releases.
Network test isn’t final so
just depends on what tools they give arcane builds
it's not final but seeing that was a good sign
Like, carry weight is tied to endurance now
yeah, and it was tied to strength in the network test
Which is a welcome change
What the heck is party animals
Gang Beasts but with animals
party animals 😡
Dex builds will be able to use heavy armor
the main thing for me is that i want every weapon, ash of war, spell, and starting class to have a meaningful use
Lmao
Why is it most 2nd most wishlisted???
tf is party animals
Party Animals used to be all the craze a while back, no? And then it just faded away but still holds the second most wishlisted spot for some reason.
silksong bouta be #1 by process of elimination
people don't often get rid of games from their wishlists
oh
Oh yea, true. I curate my wishlist a lot so it slipped my mind. 
i know that we'll inevitably get weapons on the level of the ds3 handmaid's dagger but hopefully there are fewer of those, or they at least have some niche application
IM SO FUCKING HAPPY :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Y
why
fuck u gray and quill
fromsoft really made a dagger that's outclassed by an infused caestus
No news, be sad
Because silksong is coming this month :D
Ha
cactus?
speaker keeps misspelling elden ring
yes
Caestus

Can you please chill with the baseless spreading of misinformation? I know everyone here knows you're joking but someone else might get the wrong idea. Thanks.
Caestus are just cactus tied to your fists
Cactuar
I think cactus gloves would be a cool weapon in elden ring
we do have a snake shield, so i wouldn't rule it out
I want more funny weapons
Cacnea
i didn't think the snake shield looked very good in the network test, but i still want to use it
Same
weapon art was so slow
It had it's uses, it could go through walls and poison through shields
oh it could wall cheese?
😈 yes
nvm goat weapon
Is the poison any good in elden ring or is it ds3 level
2:15pm in aledelaide they might still make the blog..
Lmao no
Lmao no
wtf
i don't know the exact number, but the biggest problem with ds3 poison was being able to carry 198 poison cure items anyways
They didn’t make an anniversary post last year, no incentive to make one this year
Not talking pvp
real
They might?
No guarantee
oh no clue then, i didn't see anyone trying to poison enemies/bosses
:o
hopefully there won't be any bosses who are basically immune to ailments like in ds3
oo
0
this is from FF, right?
My ds2 poison build was fun 😔
Ya
yeah i hope poison is good, i'd love to do a poison build with healing incantations
poison the host, run away and heal, repeat as needed
idfk
I just looked it up
i think cactaur is ff yeah
I hate pvp in every souls game tbh
is pvp in dark souls good?
Mostly smurfs and tryhards
honestly i don't blame you, fromsoft does kinda botch the execution
I have 300 hours of invading in ds3, no
Ehh depends what you like
No, I hate people
I enjoy it
never played dark souls being connected but... seems like... I mean, idk the meta so I dont have an opinion
Isn't there like dedicated PVP areas and system for 1v1s, aside from invasions?
Yes
Certain areas yea
yeah, usually tied to dlc
but u can like just put like "search 1 v 1"?
It’s good enough
i think the concept of invasions is extremely cool but a lot of the mechanics involved mean it isn't always as fun as it could be
where's the dung pie
Again, I hate the players, not the game
Because if not u probably are invading some guy that dont wanna pvp or doesnt have a build good for it
That’s the point of invasions
Invasions count towards covenants, right?
the venn diagram for silksong and ER fans are close to 50-70% tbh
The people I hate the most who invade are the ones who are immediately hostile
in elden ring they are changing invasions to only if you have coop partners so it is a lot more of an opt in system than the past games
yeah but at the same time I would like a fair duel instead of a "hmm, this guy came with its extreme meta range attacks that insta kills me" (idk the meta and havent played darksouls in more than a decade but I think about something like that)
fromsoft has tried to address this by tipping the balance in favor of the host (in elden ring, for instance, you cannot be invaded unless you either actively want to be invaded or participate in co-op)
Accurate
Had someone invade me who beat the game before the first boss
twinks are scum
twinks give honest invaders a bad name
"hmmm yes, today i will invade at the high wall of lothric with hornet ring/fire dagger"
who/what are twinks?
people invading with high level gear at low levels
people who minmax at low levels to abuse new players
oh, u mean "jovencitos"
I call them smurfs
yeah I would call them smurfs too
smurfs and twinks are not synonymous
Don’t care
then I wouldnt call them smurfs too
smurfing is when you are skilled and just invade with that skill and no other benefit at low levels, twinks go to the late game areas and get the best gear and use that on new player zones
Is that not having skill against low skilled players
twinks usually don't have any skill
Usally
They can clearly play the game handicapped
twinks can complete the game by summoning phantoms or have legitimate players drop their desired items for them
resume: pvp in games sucks single player goes brrrrrrrr
they can have up to 3 phantoms to help
Correct
The only ‘twinks’ I enjoy are the ones that I summon, had someone kill dancer for me before I did vordt
that does not count
one of the builds i was considering doing for ds3 a while back was a low-level invader that only used items that could be legitimately obtained at or before the area i would invade at
the time I had most fun in my entire time on league of legends was in a PVE event years ago, then Riot said "hmmm, we dont obtain billions of money with those events so we arent going to do them anymore" so I uninstalled and now I play tetris
I did that once and steam rolled through everyone

So just get to a point and stop leveling
yeah i'm not too surprised
Isn’t twinking the reason invasion is kinda gone
probably
I like invading at soul level 90, not toxic meta zone but not so low that the people i invade have no idea what they are doing
yeah when i did invade i did sl90
I can’t pvp for shit
Then pvp good
it takes a certain kind of stupid to get good at dark souls pvp
Someone invades me, I try and be nice and if they don’t be back, pull the internet because fuck you
you and 90% of pvers
Diagnosis: skill issue
honestly if you've had nothing but bad experiences with twinks i don't blame you
Pretty much
at that point why don't you just play offline
Summons
invaders are made to balance summons
invaders are, by intent, the risk to summoning's reward
I summon right in front of the boss, always
Bad
I can get through an area fine, I only summon for the boss
I want an ornstein and smough in silksong
Too hard to balance I think
i honestly wish summoning right in front of the boss wasn't a thing
it takes all the risk out of summoning for the host, it means the vast majority of co-op is purely boss fights rather than completing an entire level together, and it makes any invader who shows up have to sit through several extra loading screens
(I just mean 1 v 2 hard af boss)
they are bringing back boss invasions in the form of field bosses
the field boss invasions interest me but i worry it'll tip the balance of power too far in the invader's favor, even with bosses being able to hit invaders
I’m gonna play elden ring offline 100%
or you can just not summon, seeing messages and bloodstains are always fun
they can, but i don't think that should be their goal
in my eyes, the goal of the host should be clearing the level, regardless of whether or not an invader is present
I want a pure experience, seeing bloodstains and messages telling me what’s ahead will ruin the surprise sometimes
I really like seeing goofy bloodstains
stupid bloodstains are magical
also elden ring is topping best seller charts rn
Good
what if its bad
It won’t be
We don't speak of such heresy here 😡
even if it's bad, I'll still have fun invading
sorry jonny. please dont ban
my goal with any change to invasions would be "tip the balance of power further towards the host, but pressure the host to complete the level"
People have already played the game, all evidence points to game of the year
Also, people who have played the game have attested to the fact that the game is good.
my goal with my change in invasions would be "KILL KILL KILL KILL"
They haven't played all of it, just at most 6 hours of what they could do, but it does give us some insight.
Elden ring is the first fromsoft game I’m going into mostly blind
same
i'd argue the run back to recover your souls is very bad for invasions as a mechanic - the host will have to go further to recover their souls and thus risk losing them, so a lot of hosts will just camp the bonfire so they can recover them easily
can you set it so you cant be invaded?
just don't summon
you can only be invaded if you summon
sweet.
there's also an item to call blues
Oh boy, 4am
estus piñatas
my checklist for improving invasions, without doing anything i consider too radical:
- host does not lose souls on death when being invaded
- invaders slowly lose health while in the host's world
- blues lose health faster than invaders while in the host's world, but do not give the invader estus on death
The thing I’m most hyped for is armor customization
I don't think that second one is a good idea at all
Host can just avoid fighting the invader until they eventually die
not with the bloody finger item
You can still run away
I'm all fashioned up for Elden Ring 😎
how do you mean?
Can't wait for all the cool looking armor and accessories and to see people's creations and modifications.
it teleports you around the host, host does not know where you are so they could try running away but actually be running toward you
🥶 the drip 🥶
Alexander my beloved
TC are going to play ER and get a bunch of ideas delaying the game for a long time.
Heh
why is everyone simping the jar man?
because he is the cool
He’s the sieg of elden ring
whos the jar man
With a voice and attitude like that? How could we not? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBpKssEm21k&ab_channel=LunarGaming
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i'm not sure i follow
the intent isn't for the host to avoid the invader, it's for the invader to be forced to chase after the host
thats a fucking pot
Yeah
Yeah. He does seem cool
I hope there are pot mimics
iirc there are hostile pot enemies
A tempting roll through pots, surprise fuckface
Stop breaking shit
I hope he has a questline and that it's good.
It will be
from the 6 hours of gameplay, he does
Oh, we have information on that?
Hush
i'd have considered it a safe assumption that alexander had a questline regardless
yeah, it's revealed that he does have a questline, I am not sure on the details but he does have one
pogu
I’ve only watched vati’s video
I've watched bits and pieces of stuff but don't really know anything past the Network Test
Same
i know most of what's been said but i've actively been seeking out information about class and equipment stats
I plan to hopefully go into the game blind. I never played the Network Test so even my knowledge of that stuff is limited.
sadly there hasn't been much outside of the starting class stats revealed
from the sound of it a lot of the stuff that appeared in the network test has been altered in some way, e.g. certain items in the network test have been replaced by completely different ones
system requirements when
silksong is 4 weeks away! I can't believe it!
and the ui's been updated 👀
soon™️
Very excited to see the new UI. I thought the previous one was a bit lacking.
i didn't mind the network test ui, but the changes should add a bit more flavor
good UIs are under appreciated
True
under iappreciated
the one in the network test was not bad but it could definitely use something
Is there a picture of the new vs old?
the network test one was effective but didn't have any sort of frills
We don't know what the new one looks like
Gold trimmed apparently
Coral guardian?
Does anyone.
oh. then why are you all excited about it?
We do. People have been posting lots of footage
I remember there was an artist's interpretation but I can't remember where it was
Ok I’m off
i saw a mockup but i didn't think any of the b-roll the journos got had the ui in it
it's been described to be very cool
Literally 4k videos of boss fights already. Lotta spoklers but hey it's some nice info
Its all comic sans
:sansmaster:
there shouldn't be any footage of bosses that weren't in the network test or official trailers afaik
They handed the game out to a few content creators and news sites and let them play and show anything they could find in 6 hours
i watched several of those videos, they all used sample footage provided by fromsoft/bamco and i never saw the new ui
no they could not capture their own footage
they were supplied b-roll footage by bandi
the most interesting thing in the b-roll was the bloodstain of a guy dual-wielding greatshields
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iirc game informer had some pretty heavy shit, but I only know that cause someone said it.
game informer was a special case as they got 10 hours
didn't know that
i think game informer's footage was mostly the same stuff, and the guy who got to play was restricted in where he could go
Do we have images of the new HUD?
This vid is a pretty good cover on the build. https://youtu.be/BIA1IlZKYoQ
Allegedly made to be light ok spoiler stuff
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no images
Watched most of it, it's very much mostly meant to be informative
Yea, I watched a bit of Vaati's video.
Good stuff all round
Man I was reading through the network testing stuff and I thought it was silksong network test
disappointment
imagine discussing silksong in #sk-discussion
Imagine
Happy 3th anniversary silksong 💥💥💥
3th
yurkey
Yes
also it's been confirmed that ||this is where you start the game ||
this is the only thing i got spoiled on that i actually wish i hadn't been
🧍♀️ how
Because every day were closer to Silksong duh
oh is this the starting area in silksong
Yeah, that's the official Moss Grotto map
Elden ring is out?
No offense but I'm gonna be laughin my @ off if it came out with tons of bugs and glitches
nope
its out on the 25th
Bruh imagine a bloodstains mod for Silksong
also the double great shields is an insane meme
mod support for ss 
Well we know Taco is gonna make a hollow point for Silksong
whats that

nevermind 
It’s guns in Silksong
I think a bloodstains mod would be cool but being a 2D game there likely wouldn’t be enough real estate for all the little blood stains
would be up to the modder to be skilled
but now just thinking about it mod support like with steam workshop would be rly nice
again depends if her movesets arent a pain to work with
worst part is i cant just slap a gunsprite on hornets body then call it a day because she spins too fucking much and her cloak on the way
i mean you could itd look hilarious
ye gotta draw it at different angles or something
it would be funny but it would be lame
i had to adjust the gun sprite magazine often because the hands were too far
just 2 badly cropped fake png glocks where her hands are
iv just made it look like a magazine grip to compensate
lmfao
safest way is to just replace her normal slash with a revolver shoot
wait for crowsorn gun animation

crowsworn is exactly the problem
they already took the revolver option
so im just gonna go with a lever action rifle with a bayonet, that way the downward pogo has minimal sprite changes
When I first played Hollow Knight I didn't use spells at all, since I wasn't comfortable using more than 3 button in a tight situation.
Hopefully I don't repeat that with the tools in Silksong
you might just earn plenty of money to buy a lot of them
my issue with consumables is when theyre super hard to retrieve again
but if its renewable then i can see SS allowing you to use them as a power spike option
I think I'll go full melee build, like I did for hk
My HK playstyle is full melee too, but I think it would be a shame if I don't explore the combat system in Silksong properly
would love to try multiple playstyles if they are viable and fun
obligatory given the options players will optimize the fun away
if playing fresh without looking up guides n stuff you can make your own build at least
Go sleeping
Yes i already slept
I never bothered with builds in the main game. Used a generic melee build for Godhome and have only now started experimenting with different builds in Hall of Gods
you are right cathy maybe i should sleep
Maybe? 
Nail only is strong enough in HK anyways tbh
Maybe 
Im really bad at experimenting once I find something that works for me
I am going to attack you if you don’t go sleeping now 🛏️ 
i worry a bit about shell shards as a system
they might make things a bit grindy if you have to regularly gather them to use tools, but if not then they need an additional purpose to be a meaningful inclusion
On my first playthrough I basically went nail-only including p5 and it served me well enough
I do hope in SS, that the game will encourage the player to switch out tools/skills/crests
Yeah hopefully
encourage but not force
it looks like some tools at least are used for platforming so there's definitely that situational angle
there were people that didnt like how Doom Eternal really pushed you to constantly swap weapons and use your abilities
Part of that would just having them be fairly balanced, and not just having a few dominant options
I could take 1 billion cathys
It's kind of a shame how much spell heavy builds and nail heavy builds outshine everything else in HK
Which I hope will be addressed in SS
😳
i absolutely love being able to customize my playstyle but being forced into a given option is counter to that and happens constantly in some games
Ok I will go to bed
frankly i think games are usually better served by polishing a consistent and specific experience than trying to fit in every single weapon customization option under the sun
Just that my status will look like it says im online
of course. never force, no one likes being forced to do things. you should be able to beat the game tool-less IMO. But say a certain area has lots of flying enemies, you probably arent going to want to use the sawblade tool.
the customization a game offers has to be meaningful
I myself just want more options to be viable
elden ring's approach seems really interesting
having a hundred options which are just number tweaks is meaningless
yea defs
I am going to force kirby to sleep
How do you all feel about HK's charm system in that regard?
Like technically HK has a lot of customization options with charms, it’s just that the usual 5-6 charms outclass everything so much
wonder if we can pogo the pimpillo explosion
I disagree. Once you get pretty mid-endgame in hollowknight you often run from enemies all the time, or ignore them entirely. The shard system will probably prevent that, which I feel is better.
Pimpillo 
Do we even have pogo in Silksong?
charms play best early game, when the options are both more limited and the advantage they give is more significant cause you're so weak
yeah hk charms have a lot of "this is a very cool effect" keeps running ss/qs/strength
For sure
Stuff like spore shroom and baldur feel very lacklustre compared to the usual strength/quickslash/shaman
mid/late game there ends up being a few very very specific charms you'll have found by then that make all the other stuff obsolete
sorta, it's a diagonal down attack based on one of her moves as a boss
Not to mention the weird spacing of some charms
Charms were ok. the system was very basic, but I didnt hate them. It was just there are only a few really good setups and the rest are throwaways
E.g. you can’t get womb until cdash for all intents and purposes, but you can get shaman right after dash on a first playthrough
i know baldur shell has applications in mods but in-game you're better off running something else
Similarly for dreamshield
Baldur has exactly one use in mods, and that’s to help with a bullshit boss
at the same time you don't want players to be forced to fight enemies they've already fought a hundred times just to use part of their moveset
HK had rain, do you think SS will have rain as well? or maybe so other kind of precipitation
lava counts
That’s a good point. I hope tc finds a good balance, because being too grindy or too easy would be bad.
I made a mistake watching the showcase of Silksong's gameplay. Now I'm impatient to try out the mechanics myself
Maybe there will be lava rain 
where were you when edmund mcmillen invented christianity
me when a religious person tells me I am going to hell (possible issac reference)
me on school pc playing flash isaac demo
I was busy being not alive
my past life I was peter griffin famly guy
lies peetah is alive
(possible jet set radio reference)
which looks better?
did peter canonically die in shag and scoob i can't remember if he had a cameo
1st one

hmmmmmmmmmmmm i think 1 is a more enjoyable background
prefer the first one because of the knight
cmon do yall not know hit webcomic sensation shag and scoob
Hello 
Where did you that art? It looks sick.
it’s a mystery
Or do I go back to my old one
the void one
I used to use this one, great art.
That one
the comic that this is from??? the anime action adventure comic scoob and shag????
That is actually pretty sick
darkdog is so fucking good
Never seen it
it's actually a really weirdly good action fighting comic with incredible complex lore and backstory and i'm not shitting you at all\
I can’t see anything but from your conversation I assume desktop wallpaper? Then I’ve seen yours, it’s really cool however I think you should consider the all :shermayes: one, truly a work of art
Link it, please
actual sociopaths rise up
get out
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/scoob-and-shag/list?title_no=210827&page=1 it'll make you genuinely bonkers that the comic that started as a one-off joke bit about scooby doo having a gun becomes That
Scoob and his best pal Shag are up to their usual hi-jinks, but everything is not as it seems in their latest adventure.
Scoob and Shag is a parody and the likeness to any trademarked characters are purely for satirical purposes through fair use and has no association to any existing copyrights.
I don’t wanna go back. Please. Stop this.
There's limited stuff to pick from due to the game not being out but this is what I've been rocking
THAT'S LITERALLY THE BACKGROUND FOR MY SECOND MONITOR
transistor bg baybee
Red is the best!
Great minds think alike
imagine having a pc monitor background and not just screenshotting anime for your ps4 wallpaper 
oh i actually recently stumbled onto this early access game with big transistor vibes https://store.steampowered.com/app/1400630/Afterthought/
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$24.99
this one is for my first monitor
buys nitro for blinking anime girl pfp 
protagonist is even named 'black' lol
game makes for some amazing backgrounds
your monitor is small
YO nice outer wilds bg rad
not in the slightest 
🤝

YEA god the transistor art is just so moody and gorgeous. red's concert poster has been my phone bg since like 2017
I use wallpaper engine so I did not have the actuall wallpaper I use at hand, this one is the one I use just cropped differently
Ive seen this game before. Looks interesting
embrace chaos
I have this for my computer background
is that the vinesauce pc
would you mind if i used this one too? could you send the full image
i found the ost on youtube and it goes REAL hard. also just super intruigied going through the track names, i love fun and strange and catchy names for songs that make you guess at the plot implications
I didnt make it. so go ahead
I have monika
I am a dweeb
amazing tyvm
Also saving this
Tysm
all of darkdog's stuff is great but this one will always be my absolute top fav of theirs https://twitter.com/DARKDOG15566158/status/1259056480067567617?s=20&t=b20ForL0stUtzMnb-caw2A
i remember that one from hornet 2 with lyrics
this is dope
We all become is such a good song, seriously they all are. I always make sure to buy supergiant game osts when I get the games.
That was my phone background for the longert time
Wait are you actually me?
Definitely acting like me rn 
yea you should check out the afterthought ost if you get the chance! it has some real similar transistor vibes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBJciGo4YgI&list=PLJGlcoI_fo7LtdgWkBLknogRItRUQ48M4&index=15
Get the full OST at: https://studiomoondowner.bandcamp.com
Afterthought on Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1400630/Afterthought/
Composed by
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David Nowotny. @dycide
Vocals by Anja Preuss.
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https://twitter.com/DARKDOG15566158/status/1404409324101726212/photo/1
Currently rocking this one
my Iphone background is a close up pic of my face
good knight kirbstar
Good knight 
Since this is the ss discussion chat, how sure is everyone, on a 1 - 100 scale, that silksong is gonna come out in the next 4 years?
elden ring
next 4 years? over 99% sure
100
Yeah 100, maybe 99% cause your never 100% sure but yeah
Personally, I’m 75/90% sure
99.9% sure
Sometimes games take a really long time
or just the average amount of time to make a game, which silksong is not at yet
Do you really believe they would take another 4years? 3 years is totally normal considering the circumstances, 7 would be way too much, TC works really fast
This is my mindset
Refer to above
my current coping strategy is believing that we've gone over a year without any major news because tc knows they're close and don't want to make people wait longer for the game itself because they took the time to organize a proper status update
👏
is graymoor gonna be that really big area
Well TC took less than 7years on HK, while having a lot of additional issues like money or changing coding engine mid thing
as long as elden ring fixes some of the bigger issues with ds3 i'll be able to keep myself busy for a while
Also wasnt there like a forest area? can someone send a screenshot of that?
Yeah
TC said that Greymoor was one of the biggest areas they've created.
the plan is
survive until elden ring release -> wait 2-3 days just to be sure there's nothing absolutely broken -> play elden ring -> do elden ring co-op/invasions until i have something else to keep me busy
I hold that it’ll be like deep nest, but others disagree
True, but the scope of the game is, I think, gonna be a lot biggerthen hollow knight was, and knowing tc, they are gonna flesh out every inch of the world they’re building. So, I’m just mentally preparing for the potential amount of years more waiting
if its a massive deepnest area im deleting and refunding the game
From said they've already been working on a Day 1 patch so the game should be good to go from the start mostly.
that would be awful
i think they mean in terms of size, not in terms of spider hell
ah.
What’s elden ring
^
New mario party game.
Dark Souls 4
I DOUBT YOU COULD EVEN IMAGINE IT
The dark souls of open world games
I’m serious, I haven’t heard of it
ive never played dark souls
nah I still think it could be hell. We saw graves all throughout it, so just imagine the possible things that could jump out. Maybe zombies?
Latest game from From Software, makers of Dark Souls franchise and similar games.
thatd be very lame
I hope they do something special with it lore wise
That sounds… well, I haven’t beaten 2bc in dead cells yet, so it doesn’t sound like the game for me
Cuz a massive graveyard needs a reason to be that big, right?
people die
We already know some enemies that will be in Greymoor
to explain, "i doubt you could even imagine it" is the first line of the game's initial reveal trailer
Oh yeah those weird birds and the scissor dude
Hornet is that reason
Well, it still holds true
I’m not really that good of a gamer
It’s Valentine’s Day which means Silksong!
happy clowns day to everyone
show
still have 24th left 
they should chunk areas into small subareas
https://strawpoll.com/drvz1zok8 curious
that way it doesnt feel too "samey" if it is larger
I am really glad the regular enemies in HK aren't very dangerous since I plan to do Steel Soul, but I'm looking forward to facing harder ones in Silksong
Yeah I’m gonna enjoy hard enemies so much
im not, theyre gonna ruin my silk soul runs
i'm honestly hoping silk soul isn't permadeath
Just giving some of them shield is enough to make them way harder, giving them smaller windows to hit em, making them able to parry some tools from a distance so you can’t easily cheese them (like Lace does)
Someone should make an ultimate steel soul where you can’t regen health, meaning that lifeblood is ur best friend
glass soul
Is silk soul official, or?
Assuming silk soul is gonna be perma-death
Always has been
it's known to exist, but exactly what it is beyond being the successor to steel soul is unknown
silk soul was announced in a companion video on tc's channel on the same day the game was revealed
We know they want to make it more than steel soul
steel soul is lame as fuck btw. just permadeath and nothing else really changes
Doesn’t that meme end with the sussy impasta shooting the crewmate?
I hope silksoul enemies will do twice the damage
Tok’s dead
i hope we get new unique silksoul enemies
Bird
Ok just make it titanium instead of steel then
i know
We havent seen 3 mask so that would be cool
those are some cool looking enemies
It’s like the only difference
Also y ello
We did thought
also steel soul jinn
U got the ring scenario but they arent amogus guys
Explain plz?
Oh ya
could probably do some changes to boss patterns/attacks to make them more dangerous
steel silk
why so tiny Jonny?
That’s the version of the meme I saw
I think the birds could actually be wee old or something. Maybe mosquito’s?
i like the fact that all enemies are birds
Void birds
Couldn't find an image with better resolution, my bad.
all good
nothing too fancy, but something like making every silk soul boss the equivalent of stuff like soul tyrant/lost kin/etc
Ok but is there gonna be a forest place or not
depression
3 mask hit from lace at the end, pulls you in for 1 mask, deals you 1 while hitting you mid air then throws you against the ground for 1 last one, for a total of 3, Lace ain’t going easy on us 
i swear i saw a forest area somewhere but i cant remember
Oh yeah i saw that o thought it was a bug or something thats scary shit
Area Focus: Greymoor
As Hornet ascends from the foundations of Pharloom towards the citadel at its crest, she may pass through the wasted caverns of Greymoor. The misted fields and dilapidated towers are now infested with Crawbugs, devious nesting types, and the former tenders of the land have become haunted. In the pens at this land’s height, keepers wrangle swarms of Dustroaches, rapid-breeding pests with insatiable appetites.
Greymoor is a huge area, one of the biggest we’ve ever created. Within its caves and structures Hornet will uncover many mysteries, make several new friends and duel with a lethal, lunging foe.
Moss Grotto
first time seeing this image
No, like actual trees
I think they mean coral forest
Just brrrrrr 3 mask gone
It’s from the trailer?
that's a screenshot from the reveal trailer iirc
Did i dream this? am i going insane?
Love all the little details in the art
#teamtrees
This place?
YES! thanks for confirming sanity
thats my favorite area so far
You dont have one
I think theyre roots
staligtites
Underhang
i misrembered
look like trees, might as well be 
#teamtrees
The wierd things coming out of them makes it look more like roots
Its all a lie
but yeah thats def my favorite area so far
Could be
Which would mean actual forest area???
Dude on the left looks like he will come to u to sell u his special cookies
gonna dream nail him

i wonder if we get a dreamnail in silksong
are the cookies safe to eat?
Of course
dreamneedle
Well not a literal dreamnail
are you lying to me, do i look dense to you 
Yes
Why not? Cause I say so.
obviously not
needolin probably fills a similar role to dream nail
Which are infused with performance enhancing drugs, otherwise known as speed
if i were to guess
Reevers!!!!
Steroids.
maybe something like a dreamcatcher
oh, hello cathy
hello cathy newman
nah. The moths are gone, and the dream nail seems like a one off thing. Hornets Needolin will probably be the equivalent for SS
Yeah I- oh well Cathy’s here I’m goin—
Yes, but
are you still in kill mood
what is a Needolin
Wybie you know what time it is?
NOOOO
STAY 😳


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do not blame me for that is about to happen
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