sk-discussion

[wheat sail]

Pokemon fans with 0 expectations will eat it up anyways. And any time you say anything they say "we can't have fun??"

[proud vale]

Bruh imagine how cpu intensive that would be though to have that all going for every Pokémon on screen

[high hedge]

Man has every generation been contentious online? It feels like people have been arguing about generation quality since Unova

[wheat sail]

unova its just people complaining you cant get old pokemon in the wild in bw

[proud vale]

Hopefully they learned from sword/shield reviews

[serene chasm]

Fuck the switch. Pokemon on PC

[wheat sail]

the actual quality of the games now 🤷

[high hedge]

“Why is this pokemon an ice cream with a face and not a rock with arms.”

[proud vale]

I imagine it would be SICK to emulate

[wheat sail]

gen 1 pokemon were just as basic

[high hedge]

Three different blob with face pokemon

[wheat sail]

Yuzu emulator 😶

[proud vale]

There won’t be that many new Pokémon in legends so we’re all G

Also yes Yuzu with an FPS unlocker and eventually shaders

[coarse leaf]

Honestly, Legends just seems fine

[high hedge]

Finally doing something with Arceus

Now give it a cooler design

[proud vale]

The fact that Arceus is catchable boggles the mind

[high hedge]

Never doubt the innovative minds at Silph Co.

[trim estuary]

[cerulean sable]

i would say

like

maybe they can get competeition

but then i remember their competition is some indie pokemon like game where you enslave as many, turn them into factory workers for firearms, then use said firearms to hunt even larger monsters

[serene chasm]

never going to happen

[cerulean sable]

i am talking about an actual game

[serene chasm]

I know. But most pokemon players just want pokemon. They arent going to switch to a new pokemon-like game.
Not to say there havent been other monster collecting games out there, its just that they will never get big enough to compete with pokemon, and force them to make changes

[trim estuary]

what

[north shuttle]

)

[olive bobcat]

I want good Pokemon, why is why I'm not buying any more games right now

[proud dagger]

The thing about trying to make a Pokémon alternative is that all the best designs are taken already by Pokémon

[proud vale]

Aluo you cheeky devil

Isn’t Persona kind of like Pokémon?

[chrome dragon]

No

[proud vale]

Also Nino Kuni is a cool Pokémon-like game

[shell yacht]

persona is like pokemon if alchoholism and mental instability were pokemon

[vagrant umbra]

A true Pokémon killer needs to have scope, meme potential, and fun hecking game play that exceeds Pokémon to an 11. It would be a once in a life-time project, so as long as Pokémon can keep making sequels, there is no hope.

[trim estuary]

so basically just Pokémon

[languid linden]

Alternatively known as pokemon with alcoholism and #hk-lore

[vagrant umbra]

I bet the SuperCell can get really close at a Mobile Pokémon like game.

[proud vale]

I guess Nino Kuni has more in common with persona then

[shell yacht]

pokemon has its fair share of dead kids and evil people

[serene chasm]

I want an M rated pokemon game

[proud vale]

Drifloon lore
People who don’t know:
People who know:

Whoops got the Pokémon wrong

[trim estuary]

💀

[hard stratus]

wouldnt be a real video game without a ghost that kidnaps children

[proud vale]

Then I hope silksong is not a real video game

[pale oasis]

pokemon war alluded to in the original red and blue

lt sarge

[trim estuary]

nooo more children

[serene chasm]

It dislikes heavy children

[shell yacht]

phantump
drowsee
yamask

[proud vale]

litwick?

[shell yacht]

them too, eat souls

[trim estuary]

That is so relatable

[proud vale]

Damn Drifloon hates fat kids, cancel Drifloon

[trim estuary]

Cancel me too then

[serene chasm]

Drifloon reminds my of the Junji Ito manga about the head balloons

[proud vale]

Maybe Drifloon secretly based

[torpid nymph]

horrifying

[proud vale]

I wonder what the voice lines for the huntress sounds like

[serene chasm]

batamas organs

[proud vale]

Bapanada your kidneys

[serene chasm]

I wonder how many people they got to do voices

[cyan jolt]

Be careful what you wish for

[proud vale]

With how many NPC’s we’ve seen so far I’m guessing quite a few

[serene chasm]

[[silksong npc]]

[mental swallow]

https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Silksong_npc?action=edit&redlink=1

[serene chasm]

That didnt do anything

[proud vale]

[serene chasm]

Lets see.
Sherma
Shakra
Garmond and Zaza
Signmaker
Forge Daughter
Church Keeper
Trobbio
Seth
Huntress
Caravan Leader
Grindle

Also a few shopkeepers weve seen

[fiery coral]

Signmaker?

[coarse leaf]

menderbug from the hit game hollow knight silksong edition?!?!?!!!

[fiery coral]

Aww he looks happy

[shell yacht]

hes happy bc he hasnt had to hire a menderbug yet

[serene chasm]

I know. If anything happens to them, I will kill everyone in Pharloom and then myself

[ocean mulch]

That's not very productive

[radiant wraith]

Signmaker kills the final boss in one of the endings

The true ending

[pale oasis]

remember when ari and william were just chilling online without saying anything

[mint valve]

Hello? anyone?

[pale oasis]

silksong

[mint valve]

There isn't much if not anything to talk about SS

[dense cove]

how have i never seen this what the freak

the little guy is so cute

[pale oasis]

except the fact that we'll all be clowns *next month

[mint valve]

Wait hornet can build house confirmed?

SS=breath of the wild clone ( joke )

[proud vale]

You actually forgot the most important one

Curly how could you

[pale oasis]

trobbio

[proud vale]

LÖMM

[pale oasis]

lom?

[proud vale]

Barnacle snail

[serene chasm]

Oh shit Lömm

[cerulean sable]

"No im buildin' a' castle for the queen of fuckin pharloom, the fuck you on about? Of course im buildin a fUCKIN sign, what the FUK did you think im buildin aye?"

[proud vale]

Unbased

[serene chasm]

Lomm

[digital mural]

[serene chasm]

Are all bugs from Hallownest as dumb as you?

[proud vale]

Me when I figure out Lomm’s actual name:

[serene chasm]

Man. What will we do when Dave isnt actually called Dave

[pale oasis]

i bet you eat soup with a fork

[cerulean sable]

god now all i remember is that little shit Cuno from Disco Elysium

[serene chasm]

Well yeah. My dad banned spoons because he didn't like that they didn't look like him

[cerulean sable]

"THE FOOK DOES CUNO CARE? CUNO DOESNT GIVE A SHIT, CUNO IS THE KING OF DIS FUKIN PLACE YOU GOT A PROBLE'M PIG?"

wanna punch his little shit face

[night silo]

Silksong when

[serene chasm]

Soon™️

[night silo]

Soon™️

[tidal prawn]

Soon being sometime between now and never

[proud vale]

I wonder if they have all the visuals of the release date reveal trailer ready, they’re just waiting on a solid date

[serene chasm]

definitely not

[proud vale]

Why not

[serene chasm]

I doubt theyve even planned a trailer if they dont know when the game comes out. The trailer probably wont be made until a few weeks before its announced

[proud vale]

I guess the trailer’s being made now then

[coarse leaf]

they can't make more trailers for a game that's a distraction for zoteboat

zoteboat will shadowdrop on jabuary 19th 200

[proud vale]

Jabuary

[cerulean sable]

"Hey hey guys, spoiler alert: Silksong is a myth, silksong isnt real, Silknever, SIlksong is just a collective dream and australia is sunk, its never coming out hey guys guys why arent you all laughing "

https://tenor.com/view/stare-christian-bale-handsome-gif-13379950

[coarse leaf]

yeah it's the first month in the zotendar

[serene chasm]

Fuck you its Jabuary

[coral glacier]

Silksong will come in march

[coarse leaf]

the zotendar has 57 days in a month

[proud vale]

“Let’s see William Pellen’s card”

[surreal mirage]

i sugest Zoteboat discussion chanel

[cerulean sable]

"Perpetua, Trajan Pro as the title, oh my god, it even has title card flourish all over it"

[proud vale]

“The subtle shitty memeness of it”

[proud vale]

Makes her spine look quite messed up

[cunning geode]

Lace is a fan of Unus Annus

[proud vale]

Of what now

[cunning geode]

nothing

[proud vale]

Exactly.

[prime hull]

Wait are yall playing it er somethin-

[cunning geode]

yeah

[serene chasm]

Just the mods

[cunning geode]

[prime hull]

Oh

Ok just wondering..... I was like .,__,.

[cunning geode]

we dont actually

[serene chasm]

[fiery coral]

🤫

[shell yacht]

[serene chasm]

You use feelspk a lot, dont you

[fiery coral]

For when one just doesn't cut it

[shell yacht]

now i need a new emote

[fiery coral]

Best emote is though

[prime hull]

The best one to me is this

[serene chasm]

[prime hull]

Me when I see my shade and forget it's 6 hits to kill it

[shell yacht]

[pale oasis]

SILKSONGGGGGGGGG

[proud vale]

[serene chasm]

what is the most useless emote

[coarse leaf]

[serene chasm]

Does anyone use this one

[prime hull]

Idk??

[proud vale]

[prime hull]

[proud vale]

Bruh vibe collector is good

[prime hull]

ONE OF MY FAVS CAUSE ITS THE COLLECTOR

[serene chasm]

party weaver and sheopride are the best

[fiery coral]

this is a thing apparently

when Silksong comes there will be a purge

that'll be interesting

[proud vale]

[prime hull]

Har Har Har Har yes there will we will spam everything HAHAHAHBWAHAHAH/hj

[fiery coral]

seems useless

[serene chasm]

ruh

[fiery coral]

[proud vale]

[fiery coral]

Used in #hk-lore and not much else 🥴

[proud vale]

Useless cause no one seems to check pins

[pale oasis]

when someone asks if there silksong news

[serene chasm]

Sspsa emote when

[pale oasis]

hornetpin

[fiery coral]

One of those that should be used more often but ?sspsa and 'check the pins'

[mint valve]

well good knight

[fiery coral]

oh hey that'd be a nice one

goodknight Dusty

[proud vale]

I want a Lomm emote darn it, why did pukebug get one over him

[serene chasm]

Replace all lemm with lomm

[fiery coral]

could be replaced by Lomm rising up from the floor like he does in the trailer (...right? or am I misremembering)

[proud vale]

Make it a gif for nitro boosters

[obtuse ravine]

It's 7 am, I woke up around 1,5 hours ago

[serene chasm]

dzien dobry to you

[obtuse ravine]

Oh! It's nice of you : D
Dzień dobry : )

[serene chasm]

There seems to be quite a bit of polish users here. TC should look into having polish as one of the supported languages

[wintry wagon]

If*

[coarse leaf]

when*

[split tide]

Where*

[coarse leaf]

proceed to talk and your life + opinions are invalid

[coarse leaf]

hmm... hornet in witcher universe

[serene chasm]

toss a rosary to your hornet

[obtuse ravine]

I know, right?
the sad part is that, practically none of my friends played hk (only one of them, but he cheated the whole way through ), but I still try to encourage them from time to time

[cerulean sable]

does pharloom have a cavalry company

do they ride stag beetles for that

i wanna know

[fiery coral]

no clue

the only thing we know for real

THERE WILL BE SILK

SONG

THE BUG IN THE MIRROR NODS HER HEAD

THE ONLY ONE LEFT

WILL RIDE UPON THE BELL BEAST'S BACK

[coarse leaf]

lol imagine lambert as zote or someone

[tawdry valley]

WHITE WHALE

[coarse leaf]

pharloom has aquatic animals?

[tawdry valley]

HOLY GRAIL

[coarse leaf]

shit hornet stands no chance

[cerulean tree]

phish

[obtuse ravine]

oh, maybe there will be some sort of water strider!

[tawdry valley]

We explore a coral reef but don’t ask me why there are chrome golems with laser eyes in there

[fiery coral]

🐍

[tawdry valley]

I don’t get it

[obtuse ravine]

wow, team cherry even thought about that!

[tawdry valley]

Damn it. I didn’t know what this area was because I intentionally didn’t pay attention to it. Now I do 😠😠😠

[serene chasm]

sorry

[obtuse ravine]

most peaceful time for this channel is around 6am-12am, later there are so many messages

[plain loom]

You sure? Channel is pretty dead most of the time

or offtopic

[serene chasm]

It has its highs and lows. Around this time its pretty quiet. It will get more active in about 3 hours

[obtuse ravine]

I mean, now it is sort of dead, but later, like 7 pm in Poland, it is like 5 messages in 10 seconds

[plain loom]

Lol

What time is it now?

[serene chasm]

In poland? dont live there but 8am

[plain loom]

Huh. Yeah, 7 pm there is about afternoon for America, so seems about right.

[thin hawk]

Make a guess for SS release date

I'll start. Feb 2021

[narrow lava]

ill start, in one hour

[digital mural]

ill start, in 10 minutes

[narrow lava]

ill start, one nano-second

[digital mural]

ill start, right now

[serene chasm]

In 10 eons

[rotund peak]

Yesterday

[limpid plover]

Microsoft buys team cherry when

[formal kelp]

silksong will secretly steal celeste's plot

[rare nymph]

Never 😀

[uncut citrus]

Good ending

[cerulean sable]

please i beg you say Pharloom Total War when

i just wanna spam Cult Reavers and make the Cult Knight a legendary lord

[uncut citrus]

Pharloom Total War when...?

[coarse leaf]

Whats this area

[brittle garnet]

We saw it in Edge

[obtuse ravine]

total war between Hallownest and Pharloom

Will Zoteboat take place when both kingdoms will recover from past problems, start war with each other and then mighty Zote will have epic mission of stopping that from happening?

[young phoenix]

Pharloom would beat hallownest 20/10 times

[uncut citrus]

eh we dont know enough about pharloom's technology

i guess if PK really needed military help he could have created vessels which purpose isnt just to be vessels, but actually to fight, idk if void would have helped but like 10 PV would probably hurts

[young phoenix]

Well yes but hallownest is like literally dead

[cerulean tree]

waddup

[uncut citrus]

oh you mean, right now

[young phoenix]

If it isn’t right now than hallownest has a chance

[coarse leaf]

why are you considering current hallownest, which cant even start a war to begin with

[young phoenix]

Well the vessels were made to stop the infection not fight wars, for now

[uncut citrus]

i mean TK + voidheart and Hornet could probably beat up alot of ppls... hornet doesnt even really matter in this case, shade lord could rekt armies but like obv whatever is oing on in pharloom will have HBs which would be able to deal with stuff that common bugs cant deal wit...

[cerulean tree]

vessel royale

[young phoenix]

Well can we really bring in shade lord…

We don’t even know if it would help hallownest

[uncut citrus]

||i dont think but shhh||

||pretty sure shade lord needs godseeker focus or smth, but this is powerscaling between a vessel which is considered HB and a kingdom, like how does that even make sense||

[young phoenix]

We all know who hallownest’s strongest fighter is though… quirrel.

Also the infection has to exist for shade lord to even be a thing but shhh

[uncut citrus]

||no what-||

[mint arrow]

Sup boiz, so when does this ss is coming out?

[young phoenix]

Can we count grimm to help hallownest or…

[uncut citrus]

probably would want pharloom to die, so maybe

[young phoenix]

Sorry too busy discussing a war between pharloom and hallownest

I mean if pharloom fell grimm would get more nightmare essence, win win!

[fossil cedar]

good morning chat

[uncut citrus]

hey

[fossil cedar]

hi reevers

[last ravine]

Good morning everyone!

[fossil cedar]

hey david

[mint arrow]

Oh okey, im sorry that I interupt you. #teamhallownest

[fossil cedar]

oneshot pfp 🤨

[last ravine]

Folks, is that Greg that you guys talk about someone who truly works for TC?

[fossil cedar]

i think he's a tester but i'm not certain

[last ravine]

👋

[last ravine]

🤔

[uncut citrus]

lead playtester

[young phoenix]

Also the common bugs in hallownest seem much more common so larger numbers, but pharloom has more trained fighters, or they’re all mind controlled-

[uncut citrus]

basically played silksong, like the admins actually, but ofc they wont tell us anything

[fossil cedar]

makes sense

[uncut citrus]

we have no idea what

[young phoenix]

So we just assume that they know somewhat how to fight

But literally none of this matters because PK alone wins

[uncut citrus]

literalyl we dont have nough info

[fossil cedar]

i dunno if they're exactly trained fighters, but i did notice that they're all proficient with some kind of weapon, i presume that it was just part of their occupation before stuff went down to make them aggressive

[young phoenix]

Because do you see how many buzzsaws that man has?

[fossil cedar]

pale knight solos what can i say

[uncut citrus]

Hallownest seems to have alot of HBs, icluding 2 pale ones, in a "small" kingdom, but Pharloom will be bigger, so we cant know, at the end the only thing that matters are anything strong enough to be a mid-enbd game boss, and HBs, common bugs would just get crushed easily, so to even have something remotly estimate we need to know how many HB theres in pharloom, which we have no idea yet, then we would need to see how "powerful" those HB are, basically its no use until we get the game, and even there it will still be useless

[brittle garnet]

To be fair we don't know if Higher Beings are particularly more powerful in combat

[fossil cedar]

for all we know a royal gaurd could throw down with the pale king

[young phoenix]

Well remember we can say there is 4 mantis lords…

[brittle garnet]

PK might just be a noodle armed nerd

[fossil cedar]

mantis lords aren't higher being

[young phoenix]

Yeah but they are excellent fighters

And imagine sisters of battle but with 4

[brittle garnet]

They also probably wouldn't care for a war

[fossil cedar]

you guys think the mantis lord could kill pale king

[young phoenix]

He’d run too fast

[formal comet]

i give it a week after SS comes out that speedrunners find ways to finish the game in 30- 40 mins

[fossil cedar]

he's gonna hide between all his buzzsaws

[young phoenix]

You’re being generous

Also cant PK make like thousands of kingsmolds

[brittle garnet]

Probably but how long would that take him

He makes each one by hand

[fossil cedar]

he'd have to get a whole lot of void to do that

[brittle garnet]

That's not a problem, the problem is that he's the only one who can make them and it's probably not a super fast process

[fossil cedar]

i will be silksongs higher being

[stark estuary]

I mean, PK is probably pretty powerful

[cerulean tree]

ello

[fossil cedar]

hi gies

[stark estuary]

He's the only person who could have taught PV its spells, so he was likely more proficient in using them than PV was and likely knows a lot more. We know he was extremely skilled at using Soul in general.

[formal comet]

I wonder if he got the shamans to help train him

[cerulean tree]

i trained him

[fossil cedar]

i could totally see him having a lot of help training him

[stark estuary]

Nah, PV's spells have a far more solid/refined appearance than the Shaman spells. They're also a lot stronger.

[fossil cedar]

it may be a bit of a stretch but he does use the same dashing move as the mantis lords

[stark estuary]

That's just a generic dash

The Mantis Tribe and Hallownest had no love for one another

[fossil cedar]

their stance is very similar though is all im saying

[formal comet]

Oh right. Who would've taught him combat stuff then?
Hornet was trained by the bee queen (I think)
but I doubt THK was too

[coarse leaf]

he'd probably be the most difficult boss after absrad if he was alive and godseeker did her thing

[stark estuary]

Hornet having being trained by Vespa is no longer canon. With regards to THK, PK had a whole ass court of skilled knights who could have trained it.

[cerulean tree]

guys maybe he was trained by the five great knights in combat

[stark estuary]

Different fighting styles. Only likely candidate is Dryya.

[formal comet]

Oh it isnt canon? who said that lol.

[coarse leaf]

it's cut content

[formal comet]

ah

[coarse leaf]

can't be called canon

[formal comet]

fair

[fossil cedar]

really we don't know definitely just how much the pale king can throw hands

[stark estuary]

Essentially, yeah. The "Three Queens" concept is only referenced in outdated blog posts and never in game.

[coarse leaf]

imagine an attack where he just speedruns a saw build

[fossil cedar]

he's cranking 90s

[stark estuary]

We don't, no.

[formal comet]

Oh i forgot I didnt sit on the throne when playing...lol

[fossil cedar]

neither did i

[stark estuary]

But given his supposed mastery over Soul, I assume he was quite a force to be reckoned with.

[formal comet]

I thought it would trigger something so i didnt sit on it

[coarse leaf]

"shit im low" releases a saw

[fossil cedar]

remind me how we know the king used soul i don't pay much attention to lore

[formal comet]

hah. he just throws handheld saws at his opponent

but he has an infinite amount

[coarse leaf]

he will secretly hire Sly

[formal comet]

lol. sly just hides in his long ass cloak

[iron spear]

Hire me

nah

[coarse leaf]

sly phase 2 and a few phase 1 attacks lol

[fossil cedar]

he's controlling him like ratatouille

[coarse leaf]

sly turns into a saw

[stark estuary]

Probably taught PV its Soul-Spells, could make Soul totems, has a Soul-powered elevator in WP, has weird Soul magnets (Wingsmoulds), and formed one half of Kingsoul, a charm literally containing infinite Soul. Oh, and his offspring have the ability to focus Soul, Hornet's "Bind" is probably something similar.

[formal comet]

ll. he just holds him by the legs while he spins

[coarse leaf]

he might've learnt making soul totems from the ancient civil's left over remains

[fossil cedar]

i could see it, but i also wouldn't count all that is super concrete evidence, for all we know he could've just gotten someone else to do most of that stuff

[stark estuary]

He may have taken inspiration from AC yeah

[coarse leaf]

also an important part, he has huge control over dreams

brought a whole fucking palace to a kingsmould's dream

[formal comet]

and put a shield around it

[coarse leaf]

and also sealed it behind smth that needs awoken dnail

[fossil cedar]

is that what happened? i thought it was just the bros dream of the castle

[cerulean tree]

ss discussion has been taken over by #hk-lore

[stark estuary]

Vessels and Hornet can both manipulate Soul. Hornet says to TK that their strength comes from "similar source", referring to PK. He obviously had power over Soul if his offspring were able to inherit similar abilities.

[coarse leaf]

how did the actual kingsoul fragment get in then

[fossil cedar]

funsies

[formal comet]

he physically took the palace and lodged it inside the kingsmould pretty much

somehow

[cerulean tree]

valid

[coarse leaf]

yeah the physical palace is nonexistent

[fossil cedar]

i don't know much of the lore behind the palace and the king

[coarse leaf]

only the entrance is left in palace grounds

[formal comet]

at first I thought the palace was in ruins

[coarse leaf]

multiple npcs too say that the palace just disappeared IIRC

[formal comet]

yeah they do

[fossil cedar]

seems like a bit of a stretch, i could see that being a way to interpret that

[fathom peak]

the palace you explore in the kingsmould's mind is the real one

[stark estuary]

How is it a stretch

She literally says it

PK is the only common denominator

[fossil cedar]

well it's just a vague piece of dialogue, it could just be referring to the fact they're both descendants of higher beings, and for all we know hornet might not be able to manipulate soul

[formal comet]

maybe she summons her spike things with soul?

[fathom peak]

TC says that silk and soul are inseperable for hornet

[stark estuary]

She can manipulate Soul, this is confirmed

[obtuse ravine]

yeah, pain from path of pain is real one

[formal comet]

or would that be dumb

[fossil cedar]

good to know

[formal comet]

cries in 7 hours of trying but finally doing it

[stark estuary]

No, they're not "descendants of Higher Beings", they're children of the same Higher Being.

[fossil cedar]

my statement is still true

[fathom peak]

so yes she can manipulate it
basically:
if the vessels (every one of them) can manipulate soul
and hornet can manipulate soul too
and they're all children of pale king
then PK could manipulate soul too. maybe even better than them

[fossil cedar]

that makes much more sense, i hadn't heard the confirmation of hornets soul ability, thank you

[fathom peak]

👍

[stark estuary]

And with regards to the other stuff I mentioned, you said he could have gotten "someone else" to do it. Who? PK having the ability to manipulate Soul is well-established, making him by far the likeliest candidate.

[young phoenix]

Guys silksong may a have a focus on silk and song

[formal comet]

i cant wait for the OST

[stark estuary]

Silknever

[cerulean tree]

WHAT

[young phoenix]

I know I know, crazy theory

[fossil cedar]

no what i was saying was that he might not be able to manipulate soul and just had other people do all that stuff, but now i realize that it is very likely that the pale king could manipulate soul, probably better than his children, so i take my statement back

[formal comet]

hearing the HK menu theme gave me chills
I hope SS does the same lol

[obtuse ravine]

I think it is like
PK>vessels>hornet
but I think that with enough amount of time vessels and hornet could be on similar level as PK, but in hornet case, she would still have to use silk

[coarse leaf]

silksong may have a focus on the character called Hornet from the hit indie metroidvania game with souslike-elements Hollow Knight

[cerulean tree]

no way not gonna happen

[formal comet]

I thought she was from pacman

[young phoenix]

What’s hollow knight

[fossil cedar]

hungry knight?

[young phoenix]

Never heard of it

[cerulean tree]

?? hollow knight ??

[formal comet]

Happy knight

[obtuse ravine]

you mean that funny part from full name of silksong?

[split tide]

Isn’t this a terraria server

[formal comet]

with its hit successor

sad sad

[coarse leaf]

no we are roblox now

[formal comet]

why not call of duty. theres mods for that already

[cerulean tree]

now you're just making up word ?? tf is a silksong ??

[coarse leaf]

there is gonna be a paid game called Silksong inspired by the hit indie metroi

[obtuse ravine]

idk, I think i heard it somewhere long ago

[fossil cedar]

silksong isn't in the dictionary

[cerulean tree]

i think i heard something like that way back like 100 years ago in 2019

[coarse leaf]

why are you still alive gramps

please die already i need your old ass 2019 memories to go non existent

[fossil cedar]

bro so old he still a monkey

[uncut citrus]

i mean from the one we see they could at least make stuff that would be powerful in combat, like PK with kingmoulds, and with WL vessels, or Unn

[cerulean tree]

i do not know anymore😔

[obtuse ravine]

ah, you mean that joke game? Remember how we all thought it was real?

[fossil cedar]

yeah it was kinda funny when team cherry released zoteboat instead

[coarse leaf]

sigh old people talking about zoomerdays

[cerulean tree]

ahh now i remember haha yeah that funny when half the population got depression

i fooled you all i am actually not thousand years old

[fossil cedar]

you guys remember the sexual, tisotassle

those were the good ol days

ay i didn't mean to say sexual

[cerulean tree]

i do think i recognize that word

[fossil cedar]

my autocorrect is buggin i meant to say sequel

[cerulean tree]

sus

[obtuse ravine]

sussy breadus

[quick siren]

sus

[fossil cedar]

im not sus guys

[barren locust]

Sussy baka

[cerulean tree]

sounds like what an impostor would say

[quick siren]

someone sus is among us

[cerulean tree]

SUNO

[uncut citrus]

i wont let you SUS ppls

[cerulean tree]

respect

[uncut citrus]

That is now illegal.

[cerulean tree]

punishable by death

[fossil cedar]

this chat is a fever dream

[cerulean tree]

you're welcome

[uncut citrus]

thx for helping preventing sus-ing @cerulean tree

[cerulean tree]

i gotchu

[fossil cedar]

how's you guys day been so far

[obtuse ravine]

I had bus at 6 am, so little tired

but not bad, even good

[fossil cedar]

glad to hear it

[glass vigil]

Did you have bread for breakfast?

[formal comet]

ay hazbin hotel.
hazbin X hollow knight characters are cool tbh

[fossil cedar]

i had a honey bun

and a dr pepper

[glass vigil]

Someone finally recognized it, thank you!

[glass vigil]

Are pancakes considered bread?

[formal comet]

yeeeee.

[formal comet]

its classed as battered bread according to google

[fossil cedar]

pancakes are not bread

they're made completely differently

[uncut citrus]

another food discussion...

[glass vigil]

We can start a silknever discussion if you want, at least it would be appropriate for a Silksong channel

Just say the word and we will get to work right away

[uncut citrus]

hot air elevator.

[split tide]

Bread elevator

I do hope elevators in SS are fast

[lost coyote]

silksong 👍

[uncut citrus]

no but actually thats an totally unused thing in HK, anything flying, a flying city, flying iles, a flysing ship... i do think TC wont miss the opportunity for cool areas like that, especially as the citadel seems to be on the surface (of the cave) so it would be a hallownest crown situation

[split tide]

Introducing: platforming with wind

[fossil cedar]

what's goin on

[uncut citrus]

ok but... hear me out... the PoP equivalent for SS will be mid air in a floating city / between floating ships, and there will be falling barrels, and wind, and ropes, with cool mechanics, and it will be really cool

[nimble radish]

celeste chapter 4 lets go

[fossil cedar]

reevers gonna single handed delay silksong by giving team cherry more ideas

[uncut citrus]

once again, graig reading this knowing full well theres nothing slightly similar in silksong

[fossil cedar]

silksong gonna be mad fun

[nimble radish]

graig reads it and tells area and wibbly and they add it to the game :

[shy kiln]

But Graig will be pretending like
‘Yeah, good guesses but all I can say is I can neither confirm nor deny’

[jaunty canyon]

I hope its not gonna be a hollow knight clone and have different features in it

[uncut citrus]

thats why im giving TC original ideas

[fossil cedar]

i think the gameplay trailer showed enough that it'll be unique

[coarse leaf]

yeah, the moveset will be different

that is enough difference because now you actually have to learn how to move without shawing!

[fossil cedar]

im gonna love the combat in silksong

my strategy in hollow knight has always been to damage tank and the tools and faster healing are gonna make that was easier

[uncut citrus]

i still want a something flying of some kind in a steampunk style, and a (insert name of big things to watch stars and stuff that i forgot)

[fossil cedar]

a telescope?

[uncut citrus]

the 3dmg hits from early bosses are gonna make this slightly harder

[uncut citrus]

yeah i wasnt sure that was a word

[fossil cedar]

that's also true

[nimble radish]

observatory?

[fossil cedar]

but im sure i'll still be able to tank

[uncut citrus]

yeaaahahhahahaaa

[uncut citrus]

||i think not||

[fossil cedar]

you watch me be the # 1 tank in silksong history

im actually crazy excited to see all the strategies with the cocoon

[nimble radish]

if you like observatories you should play outer wilds

[uncut citrus]

ranked #1 tank? man i could say i knew a celebrity

[fossil cedar]

yeah bro

[nimble radish]

play outer wilds already, all of you
do it

[fossil cedar]

what's outer wilds again the name sounds familiar

[uncut citrus]

i have way to many games yet to play in my library let alone wishlist, i will probably play it in a few months

[digital mural]

Silksong!

[uncut citrus]

i disagree

[fossil cedar]

i entirely disagree

[fiery coral]

narrative-focused space exploration game, basically

[shy kiln]

Oh like OPUS

[fiery coral]

Haven't heard of Opus, I'm afraid

[shy kiln]

It’s a mobile game, don’t blame you

[coarse leaf]

game where you can and can not complete the ending in 10 minutes at once

[shy kiln]

But a good one

[fossil cedar]

cool

[opaque sigil]

very basically

But it's very hard to explain what it is so that's fair

[coarse leaf]

opus deez nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cerulean tree]

thats awesome dude

[warped umbra]

siklsnog

[fossil cedar]

we get hidden lore behind the pale lurker in silksong

[uncut citrus]

We might ||not at all!||

[opaque sigil]

Hidden deep in the vault is a singular tablet, upon which is written:

Pale Lurker
She crazy

[daring hemlock]

Hk ss is under-hyped even tho it’s insane already

[daring hemlock]

she use to be the pale kings pawn in the colo and the constant fighting/maybe the radiance cause her to loose her mind

[uncut citrus]

damn that just made me think

"valut with ancient knowledge" or smth, definitly like the teacher's archive, im sure we'll get some cool lore there

[uncut citrus]

||not the infection for sure||

[daring hemlock]

I know that’s why i said /constant fighting

[opaque sigil]

And she likely wasn't associated with the king

[brittle garnet]

she was just the King's #1 fan

[daring hemlock]

I know it’s just my personal theory

[uncut citrus]

i imagine some lore like its just one 3 word sentence about NMH or smth, similar to the blackwyrm, where its barely mentioned once but it raises alot of questions

[brittle garnet]

tbf I hope the troupe is mentioned, in passing, or at least very cryptically, by some npc who would have that knowledge

or that some reference to dreams will be made

[small goblet]

what's the topic rn i don't get it

[opaque sigil]

Seth

[brittle garnet]

i dunno, whatever you want

[daring hemlock]

No i don’t hope this happens at all due to the fact that I want it to be completely different from hollow knight but also 100% the same if you know what i mean

[brittle garnet]

I hope

Well it's completely different but it's still the same setting

so minor callbacks to cement things as universal factors would be nice

[uncut citrus]

*almost whatever, you dont want some discussions

[opaque sigil]

Dreams still exist and entities capable of manipulating them are probably not exclusive to Hallownest. SS can still allude to that element of the setting without delving too heavily into it as a focus

[brittle garnet]

Yeah, basically

[daring hemlock]

no farloom is a different setting with different character, place, ideas, bug cultures, and morals/lesson

[brittle garnet]

It would be cool to be able to piece together that X force in Silksong is actually the same as X other thing in HK but it's just known differently in Pharloom

[opaque sigil]

tbh I'm a bit shakier on troupe references but that would largely depend on execution, just since that's a much more specific reference

[daring hemlock]

Yes this

[brittle garnet]

i mean that they are in the same world

so things that are not unique to Hallownest would be nice to have referenced

[opaque sigil]

I mean we already see some of that with the silk stuff

[daring hemlock]

But the way you said it is literally not true since the setting is indeed different

[brittle garnet]

well no the setting the game takes place in is the same, it's just a different part of it

[opaque sigil]

The larger setting is the same, just different kingdoms

[nimble radish]

referencing the troupe could be done in many ways, such a lantern bug, or even just a lantern
appearing in a hidden area close to the border

[uncut citrus]

ild imagine the vault to have reference to wyrms and stuff, even if its little, could also mention WL? Pharloom seems to not be that far from hallownest, maybe WL comes from here, we dont even know where she comes from so just mentions of a big white tree could be nice, if its in a really cryptic way like in the teacher's achrcive

[daring hemlock]

Mr. Mushrooms return…

[brittle garnet]

it actually seems to be really far

[nimble radish]

pharloom is called that for a reason

[uncut citrus]

i mean if theres nothing between the two it doesnt really matter

[brittle garnet]

and supposedly Hornet spent a long time in the cage

[uncut citrus]

like if something was to leave pharloom/hallownest to go to the other it doesnt really matter the distance as long theres no civilisation closer

[opaque sigil]

It's a short enough distance that it could reasonably be traveled, but that's not really saying much

[brittle garnet]

I mean it doesn't seem like particularly harsh weather exists in the caves of the HK world so it's just a matter of having enough food

[opaque sigil]

Which is definitely a concern

And the wastes are known for their wind

[brittle garnet]

true, but they could have certainly gathered some on the way

tho to be fair I think this is digging too deep into the details

[opaque sigil]

But also HN may be the first suitable location the weavers found after leaving Pharloom. That doesn't mean it's close but it probably means it isn't superlatively far

[brittle garnet]

I'm really wondering
If the weavers supposedly went back to their original home after leaving Hallownest, and in Pharloom there's only a handful of them left, then It kinda seems like they either didn't reach their destination or that Pharloom isn't their original home

[opaque sigil]

Or that there were only a handful of weavers in Hallownest that were able to actually leave (so excluding little weavers)

[brittle garnet]

Unless it was a really long time between them heading back and Silksong taking place

[silk rock]

Sorry if this is a repeated question but is there any more news about silksong

[opaque sigil]

There also may be more weavers in Pharloom than we actually encounter

[obtuse ravine]

no

[brittle garnet]

I dunno I'd imagine an entire tribe would be a little more numerous

[silk rock]

Oh:(

[brittle garnet]

yeah that could certainly be true

[opaque sigil]

Even if we only encounter like half a dozen weavers at most, there could still be an understanding that there are many, many more imprisoned around the region, and Hornet just doesn't encounter all of them

[nimble radish]

depends on when you were here last

if it was within the last year, no

[silk rock]

I only joined this server 5 mins ago lmao

[brittle garnet]

although the comment in EDGE that basically says "...or what's left of them in this Kingdom" makes me think that the Weavers might have went to some other kingdom/s

[opaque sigil]

Especially if the weavers are being used as a source for silk, considering how much of it is just lying around I wouldn't really be surprised if there are an awful lot of 'em

[brittle garnet]

i honestly doubt that they're being used as the only source of silk

[opaque sigil]

Perhaps not but still

[brittle garnet]

makes more sense to me that there are more creatures that can make Silk, it's just the weavers that know how to use it

[fossil cedar]

i agree

i think the weavers are just the best source of silk, but there are probably alternatives that wouldnt be as good

[brittle garnet]

I think it's more like the Weavers have an innate ability or knowledge needed to bring out the mystical properties of Silk

[fossil cedar]

that actually sounds very likely

[brittle garnet]

kinda like snail shamans but for silk

[fossil cedar]

ive said this before but i think the worms in the moss grotto remind me a lot of silkworms

[brittle garnet]

well they're deadworms very soon after you find them

but yeah the cobwebs on vines in Moss Grotto are one of the pointers that silk is not weaver-exclusive

[brittle garnet]

another one being that Hornet can make Silk, despite Herrah not being a weaver

[fossil cedar]

thats also very true

[brittle garnet]

also there are creatures that are called "Spiders" but aren't weavers, and when Lemm describes silk scrolls used for writing he says "Spider Silk" not "Weaver Silk"

[fossil cedar]

honestly i like your theory of weavers basically being silk shamans, and not the only source of silk

[brittle garnet]

it's like
all weavers are spiders, but not all spiders are weavers

[fossil cedar]

yeah weavers are spider-like creatures, but they are still different from the rest of the spiders

[brittle garnet]

||I have another theory that the 'Dust Roaches' that are kept in Greymoor actually produce Silk and that's why they are farmed, but this one doesn't have a lot of supporting evidence||

||The only point of evidence is that there are these giant spinning wheels in Greymoor as well as giant Silk spools so that seems like where most of the silk is produced, and in one of the screenshots of that area we see something that could fit the description of a Dust Roach||

[fossil cedar]

what on earth is a dust roach

[opaque sigil]

Said to be in Greymoor

Possibly this although that's pretty much just a guess

[uncut citrus]

smol

[fossil cedar]

omg its so cute

[mortal grove]

wheres the face

[opaque sigil]

wdym

[mortal grove]

i ses the yellow part as its face

[opaque sigil]

Those look more like teeth to me, with the orbs being the eyes

[mortal grove]

its kinda unnerving like that

[opaque sigil]

It's a pretty similar head structure to Sly

Just with an explicit and pronounced mouth

[fossil cedar]

sly if he was british

[mortal grove]

sly if he was uglier

[opaque sigil]

Sly but with buckteeth

[mortal grove]

i hate it

if i saw it irl id stomp it down

[fossil cedar]

how mean!

[opaque sigil]

sounds like a you problem

[mortal grove]

if u saw it irl u would too

the fanon name doesnt help

"dust roach"

[burnt topaz]

Oh I though you meant his name on the Silksong names doc

[fossil cedar]

if i saw a spider named hornet in real like i would crush it beneath my boots

[cerulean tree]

wait from what screenshot is this? its the first time ive seen this dude

[opaque sigil]

Edge

[mortal grove]

id kill every bug in the game

[fossil cedar]

i love the dudes with scissors theyre so cool

[mortal grove]

fleas especially dont u know theyre the devil incarnate

[opaque sigil]

Not fanon, taken from a blogpost

[burnt topaz]

He's a little shy

[mortal grove]

oh it isnt?

[ocean mulch]

I like the nude tones here

[opaque sigil]

I'm sorry?

[cerulean tree]

how the hell did i miss this dude

[mortal grove]

nude as in nude colors

[ocean mulch]

Yeah LMAO

[opaque sigil]

As Hornet ascends from the foundations of Pharloom towards the citadel at its crest, she may pass through the wasted caverns of Greymoor. The misted fields and dilapidated towers are now infested with Crawbugs, devious nesting types, and the former tenders of the land have become haunted.** In the pens at this land’s height, keepers wrangle swarms of Dustroaches, rapid-breeding pests with insatiable appetites.**

[fossil cedar]

whos this dude

[mortal grove]

see i am killing him for the greater good

[opaque sigil]

Last Judge

[fossil cedar]

sounds sick

[brittle garnet]

we know nothing else about him

[fossil cedar]

he shoots fire

im assuming the connection being a fire ant

[mortal grove]

no i thinl hes just weird

[opaque sigil]

Aside from resemblance to the vault keepers and a coral forest enemy, which ultimately tells us nothing aside from the possible existence of a faction due to repeated designs

[uncut citrus]

eat grass and make silk

such is the life of dustroach (maybe)

[fossil cedar]

🙏

i live by that day to day

[cerulean tree]

he so bad fr fr 😍 😍

[fossil cedar]

im not allowed to talk on the matter

[brittle garnet]

yeah, besides that also the floor in his room is the same as in the citadel but crumbled

[fossil cedar]

i be gettin banned if i call another character a baddie 😔

[mortal grove]

terrible everyone sleeping on the citadel paladin

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-hornet-needle-hornet-playing-her-needle-gif-24057267

[mortal grove]

_ _

[fossil cedar]

im so excited to explore pharloom

[mortal grove]

hes got double swords thats cool

[opaque sigil]

Looks like he just got his throat slashed

[fossil cedar]

all the places, small details, and characters

gonna be crazy fun

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, and supposedly more development in the environment as well (especially in relation to quests)

[mortal grove]

i just wanna see the beads roll ans boing

[fossil cedar]

my favorite part of hollow knight was definitely just exploring and taking in the different atmospheres

[nimble radish]

can't wait for every area to have an infected crossroads equivalent 😉

[opaque sigil]

[mortal grove]

dust roach but fat

[coarse leaf]

diagonal hits..?

[opaque sigil]

Well seems to maybe be a modified pogo

Like with more range and a bigger hitbox (maybe more damage too)

[uncut citrus]

maybe jsut full bonus like mroe range+itbox+dmg but its a passive tool, costs a slot

[opaque sigil]

Tool or even crest effect

[mortal grove]

im kind of worrying that hornets kit might be too complex for pharloom

[opaque sigil]

idk, it's still fundamentally simple even if there's more peripheral stuff

I do agree that it's probably more complex than HK, but that's not necessarily a bad thing, and compared to other games that I would really consider "complex," SS looks very simplistic (not a bad thing)

Low skill floor and high ceiling is probably the best way to grant an opportunity for mastery without being overly daunting to new players

Easy to learn, hard to master

[unreal venture]

Sorry to interrupt. Did you guys see that the official YouTube channel for Logitech uploaded that silksong comes to pc this year?

[mortal grove]

no

[cerulean tree]

no

[opaque sigil]

Logitech isn't really in a position to be able to announce that

[opaque sigil]

Yeah that's a guess or based on bad info

[mortal grove]

i swear theres vids like these every year lol

[nimble radish]

or, TC told them to announce it in the most randomest way possible

[unreal venture]

Logitech apparently regularly updates their software for games

[brittle garnet]

more like month lmao

[unreal venture]

Well at least it says 2022 and not “February”

[opaque sigil]

logitech is like a mouse and keyboard manufacturer...

[brittle garnet]

this is hardly the first time when some public company claims that Silksong will release "this year"

[unreal venture]

And controllers too, which have drivers and stuff they need to update constantly

[coarse leaf]

yeah, the current year as it's still starting being used as a placeholder again probably

[opaque sigil]

They don't update controllers for every game

[coarse leaf]

why do they need to update according to game releases

there's a reason drivers exist

[unreal venture]

Hey I don’t know, I’m just saying lol

[opaque sigil]

They have no reason to have any inside information from TC, and if they did it would probably be illegal to post it in a video like that

Well maybe not illegal, idk the specifics of those sorts of arrangements, but definitely scummy

[unreal venture]

What if TC let them tho

[opaque sigil]

They wouldn't

[unreal venture]

You know them personally? Haha

[opaque sigil]

Why would they tell logitech that they can do that

[coarse leaf]

no but i do know they would announce the release date THEMSELVES before telling logitech

[mint valve]

good morning

[unreal venture]

What if they’ve told several companies by now what they can and can’t do

[uncut citrus]

hey

[carmine sapphire]

hello ppl

[opaque sigil]

And there's still no reason for logitech to have inside information

[unreal venture]

Well they haven’t announced any release date

[coarse leaf]

"hey, let's tell this random company the release year and also allow them to tell it to public, even tho we didnt do it outselves"

[brittle garnet]

yeah but they need to update the drivers in order to work with the hardware of consoles and PCs and OS updates, not games

[mint valve]

what about TC being illegal?

[trim estuary]

It’s just old footage right

[carmine sapphire]

spamton in silksong confirmed

[unreal venture]

Yes. The video itself was uploaded 4 days ago

[cerulean tree]

[trim estuary]

NOWS YOUR CHANCE TO BE A

[spare locust]

smol shot

[cerulean tree]

big shit!

[opaque sigil]

big shaw

[unreal venture]

Well what if Logitech became some kind of sponsor for them at some point?

Like maybe some Logitech collab for their pc release in the future?

[coarse leaf]

read what i said before

[opaque sigil]

If logitech were a sponsor that would've been announced, that's how sponsorships work

[unreal venture]

I’m just holding on to any kind of hope bahahahaha

[mortal grove]

lol its fine ithink most people have been there

[unreal venture]

Maybe it WILL be announced

[trim estuary]

Unhold

[mortal grove]

your better off just trying to forget silksong existed instead

[opaque sigil]

TC also doesn't need sponsorship, nor would they really benefit

[coarse leaf]

if it was going to be, it would've been announced before the video you sent

[opaque sigil]

TC has the resources to make the game and retaining creative freedom is presumably important to them

[silver oak]

hope is illegal

[unreal venture]

Well they did partner with Nintendo

[opaque sigil]

They didn't

[unreal venture]

It’s safe to assume the freaking game will have exclusivity to Nintendo

[opaque sigil]

They're just releasing the game on switch at launch, that's not a partnership

[opaque sigil]

It won't. PC and switch at launch

[coarse leaf]

are you purposely being dense or trolling lol

[trim estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-your-spies-spies-in-disguise-youre-spies-gif-20405819

[silver oak]

that's objectively wrong

[opaque sigil]

And Leth has already mentioned porting, as did a blogpost

[trim estuary]

It’s coming to other platforms after the switch and PC release

[brittle garnet]

yeah, they don't have any deals with Nintendo

[coarse leaf]

yeah, TC's basically releasing it everywhere except Epic, just like they did with hk IIRC

[brittle garnet]

as Leth confirmed in the March interview

[silver oak]

I think it's slated for xbox and ps as well

[wheat crescent]

No it's not.

[mortal grove]

but but the message is still understandable wit the grammatical error

[trim estuary]

False

[unreal venture]

If anything that I’ve said today is real, you’ll all be the clowns

[opaque sigil]

They definitely don't have exclusivity deals, although they presumably met with Nintendo at some point to talk about their game being on the platform

[trim estuary]

Who has a better

[unreal venture]

Or I will be…

[mortal grove]

there no real reason for me to edit my message

[coarse leaf]

just because you can drink a tea with a bad taste doesnt mean you should

[trim estuary]

No you already are ||with that profile picture||

[mortal grove]

what do u mean what u said? u mean the one where u said it would release in 2022?

[unreal venture]

Keqing is bae

[silver oak]

you will be

[wheat crescent]

U already are. So what

[opaque sigil]

The issue isn't the prospect of a 2022 release it's that that source is very, very bad

[mortal grove]

most youtubers do this thing yearly theyre bound to get it right u didnt really predict anything

[opaque sigil]

2022 is certainly plausible but the fact that logitech thinks it will release in 2022 is not really support for it

[uncut citrus]

you absolute idiot, by responding you proved you could tell what they said in that message which also had a misspelt word, proving you can still figure it out, you fell right into their trap, pathetic.

[mortal grove]

forget silksong existed and u will find inner peace and stop holding onto false hope

[silver oak]

If fucking Logitech is right, then that's not because of that video, they just guessed and happened to be correct

[unreal venture]

My hot takes: Logitech new for some reason silksong will definitely release for 2022, silksong will release this year, TC partnered with Nintendo in some way

[mortal grove]

YEAH WHAT HE SAID

[silver oak]

anime villain

[opaque sigil]

1 is nonsensical, 2 is possible, 3 is kind of a misrepresentation of the actual situation

[mortal grove]

u are all nothimg but fools i saw that one coming im playing 4d chess over here

[brittle garnet]

we know 100% that there is no exclusivity deal with Nintendo, period

[fossil cedar]

the logitech leak was most likely just a guess/rough placeholder, but i still doubt it'll take until 2023

[unreal venture]

You all really have lost all hope

[opaque sigil]

There's no exclusivity, at most there is some sort of commitment of a switch release, although idk what that would really look like

[trim estuary]

You fool, I live in area where next to nobody pronounces h’s and everytime someone says “with”, it sounds like “wit”, and a few people type that instead

[coarse leaf]

don't doubt. don't hope. don't think.

[void spear]

cant wait to play sliksong with my future grandchildren! 😃

[mortal grove]

are u guessing?

[fossil cedar]

hope? i have lost none, it will come february

[coarse leaf]

and you've gained too much

[nimble radish]

I'm still holding out hope for that 2018 release

[coarse leaf]

yeah man there's no way they'll take a whole year for the dlc

[fossil cedar]

my prediction is mid-late 2020

[unreal venture]

Yup

[coarse leaf]

i just want to play as hornet

[silver oak]

hornet dlc for HK when

[void spear]

man i cant wait to fight grimm using hornet in the new dlc

[coarse leaf]

i can't wait to fight zote as hornet

[fossil cedar]

hornet is gonna make the pantheons so much easier probably

[coarse leaf]

GPZ level 10 as hornet

[uncut citrus]

guys i think they are gonna shadowdrop it in 2019

[unreal venture]

I can’t wait to fight the knight as hornet

[coarse leaf]

true they should gate her behind r5ab

[fossil cedar]

yup i agree

[mortal grove]

no wonder

[void spear]

cant wait for hornet to fight hornet in the new dlc

[opaque sigil]

who's to say they didn't

[coarse leaf]

hey stop leaking

[cerulean tree]

r5ab?

[opaque sigil]

(Nobody's done r5ab yet, right)

[nimble radish]

not yet no

[opaque sigil]

It detects cheats and disables the unlock

[coarse leaf]

shit bro the anticheat's gonna run in the kernel to make sure u arent hackerman

[void spear]

guys they sent me the new leak of silksong dlc

[cerulean tree]

REAL!?!

[silver oak]

fireborn thumbnail

[coarse leaf]

it deletes all progress of godhome if it detects

[mortal grove]

drashekalemo

[fossil cedar]

i can't wait to fold the watcher knight with hornet

[coarse leaf]

eternal ordeal
with hornet

[tame widget]

Hornet fighting an imposter (gone sus)

[small goblet]

that time travel goes hard

[cerulean tree]

i want more watcher knight type battles in silksong

[red siren]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-grub-gif-18708300

[red siren]

POV u find a grub

[coarse leaf]

i do not

[red siren]

me neither

[fossil cedar]

daily reminder grubs > fleas

[mortal grove]

i like that gif the knight is cute (cant say the same for the grub) but thats not how pov works

[cerulean tree]

watcher knights is seriously one of the most fun fights when you finally get good at the game

[nimble radish]

who am I in this pov? quirrel?

[cerulean tree]

the cameraman

[fossil cedar]

it's fun when you have upgraded stuff and can shred them but doin it with nothing in speedruns hurts my soul

[cerulean tree]

true true

[opaque sigil]

WK is probably the worst multi-enemy boss in HK imo

[red siren]

who is the main protagonist in the game?

[opaque sigil]

ML and Oro/Mato are coordinated, WK are just annoying

[fossil cedar]

it's so hard for me to fight watcher knights tbh

[nimble radish]

hornet

[cerulean tree]

what more are there? other than mantis lords?

[red siren]

quirrel?

[cerulean tree]

ah

[void spear]

god tamer, it has 2 enemies but one is lifelinked to another

[coarse leaf]

bobbies are worse for me

[opaque sigil]

Well yeah they also suck

[fossil cedar]

watcher knights really just do their own thing and i can't tell you how many times i've been cornered with no way of dodging

[red siren]

u know the lamp trick?

[cerulean tree]

in comparison i dislike godtamer, WK is much more fun

[opaque sigil]

Doesn't really solve the problem

[mortal grove]

i love wk

[red siren]

true, but it helps

[fossil cedar]

yeah but they still hurt

[cerulean tree]

boobies!?1!?!🤨

[red siren]

true

[mortal grove]

i know right so unexpected the guy named #justiceforlurien likes watcher knights

[feral tusk]

you got descending dark?

[coarse leaf]

no oblobbles are not boobies

[void spear]

spam ddark, your solution for literally any boss

[cerulean tree]

that doesnt make any sense smh my head

[fossil cedar]

nah bro im talkin about in speedruns

[feral tusk]

ah i see

[fossil cedar]

i can handle them fine with later game stuff just when i'm underequiped they mess me up

[cerulean tree]

TC have not confirmed nor denied this so i see this as the same thing

[red siren]

😂

[fossil cedar]

honestly the mantis lords gotta be one of my favorite boss fights

[red siren]

me too

[opaque sigil]

I'm not of the opinion that WK is a bad fight, necessarily, it's just not a good way to implement boss fights with multiple enemies

[fossil cedar]

their attacks are so linear to where it's easy to avoid, but the fact there's multiple of them makes the fight chaotic and fun without being unfair

[opaque sigil]

It's much more interesting and engaging when they coordinate in some capacity, and much more predictable (which is not a bad thing)

[cerulean tree]

i agree

[opaque sigil]

Predictability is a fundamental necessity for a good boss, without it learning patterns and whatnot is pretty much pointless

They do kinda feel like that, which is where oro and mato come in

Oro and Mato do act independently but they will also join together at times for coordinated attacks

[mortal grove]

this is true

[cerulean tree]

yeah i want more of oro and mato typa battles

[mortal grove]

i like watcher knights cause its so chaotic and anything can happen its great

[cerulean tree]

tbh i just want both types of multiple enemy boss battles

[opaque sigil]

If the vault keepers are a boss fight, I hope (and it seems) that they are more along those lines, having independent roles that compliment each other

[fossil cedar]

watcher knights make me wanna die bruh they got me jumping over one while the other jumps right into my face

[cerulean tree]

imagine if they all didn't coordinate at all and you have to dodge 3 completely different attacks that dont complement eachother. that would be awfully chaotic. talking bout the vaultkeepers

[opaque sigil]

Yes but it's not as blatant as ML

[fossil cedar]

im just glad only 2 can be out at a time

[opaque sigil]

They give a better illusion of actually trying to gang up on you

[nimble radish]

moon lord

[cerulean tree]

Myla?

[uncut citrus]

moon lord.

[cerulean tree]

manly lich

[nimble radish]

which is one boss that has three eyes that act more independently

[cerulean tree]

gruzmother

[opaque sigil]

Really multiboss fights shouldn't be that good about leveraging their numerical advantage, since that would make the fight very hard

It's about making it feel like they are

[fossil cedar]

multiboss fight need to strike a balance between it being chaotic but not too unfair in the chaos

[cerulean tree]

you should be a game designer

[fossil cedar]

id be a goated game designer

[opaque sigil]

A lot of coordination in multiboss fights isn't about attacking, it's about having one back off to allow the other to do its thing

[cerulean tree]

thats why either the attacks complement eachother, or if they all had the same not incredibly hard attacks

[opaque sigil]

You shouldn't be fighting two bosses at once, you should be fighting one boss split among two bodies

[misty socket]

silksong will be actually just a game of guitar hero but with a harp of silk strings

[fossil cedar]

that's exactly true

[cerulean tree]

TC did say the enemies will be much smarter so maybe we'll see something like that

[uncut citrus]

or three (vault guys seems pretty sick ngl)

[opaque sigil]

Yeah if they're a boss fight that would be a great opportunity to make a good multiboss fight

[fossil cedar]

i think the main issue personally with the watcher knights is that all of their attacks have the same windup, they go into a ball, which when there's multiple of them just multiplied the issue 10 fold

[opaque sigil]

I do think that Oro and Mato indicate a growth in TC's boss design compared to WK and ML

[fossil cedar]

you gotta have reactions after the move is out, and you gotta do that for two of them at once

[brittle garnet]

Mantis Lords were great wym

[uncut citrus]

WK werent really fun indeed with really basic attacks

||yeah i did like ML tho||

[opaque sigil]

They were but they were very simplistic in terms of how they were coordinated

And very plainly so

[uncut citrus]

when you think about it, was pretty boring, but it felt good fighting, so thats fine ig

[fossil cedar]

they were simply and kinda easy but you can't deny how fun it is fighting when two or three of them are out

[cerulean tree]

to be honest i just really like WK cuz you can do some sick clutches/dodges cuz they're random and with for example ML the way to dodge attacks is always the same

[opaque sigil]

It was fun, I'm not disagreeing with that, I just think Oro and Mato were better

[fossil cedar]

i felt like i was cracked when i did them damageless

i was weaving

[cerulean tree]

exactly and with for example again ML you just have to learn a pattern

[opaque sigil]

ML does have the benefit of being a very rhythmic fight, so it's easier in my experience to get into the zone

[fossil cedar]

i also think that the way the fight plays out makes it great too, the main focus being to dodge and counter attack

there's no window to slap them around, it's purely on your feet for when you gotta turn around and throw hands

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, they're like grimm in that regard

[cerulean tree]

yeah i like the randomness

[opaque sigil]

Although tbh I could kinda do without bosses constantly teleporting away, it can be a bit frustrating

Feels less like a fight and more like a platforming sequence

May as well be nail bouncing on saws or something

[cerulean tree]

thats why i fucking hated soul master at the start

[fossil cedar]

the simple pattern of discerning their attack, dodging, slapping, and then doing it a few more times in a chaotic dance was awesome i love mantis lords

[wintry wagon]

i hope team cherry are having a nice vacation :))

[opaque sigil]

I do too, it's a good fight.

[fossil cedar]

it really felt like i was good even though i blow at hollow knight

now let's talk about how bad uumuu is in the pantheon

[wintry wagon]

its even worse in the real game

[opaque sigil]

Honestly I kinda prefer it to the base fight. Sure you still have to wait but at least the vulnerability phases are related to player action

[fossil cedar]

be makin me mad when i get hit by the explosives

[wintry wagon]

u have to wait around for fucking quirrell, whereas in panthrons u control the fight

[fossil cedar]

in pantheons i be takin a million damage from the jellyfish

[cerulean tree]

uumuu sucks ass i like that we got to fight alongside quirrel but i dont like that fight

[fossil cedar]

my least favorite boss gotta be brooding mawlek

i cannot fight that thing for my life i don't know why

[opaque sigil]

Yeah it feels designed for shade cloak

With the splatter attack

[mortal grove]

i dont like oblobbles or sly

[velvet ruin]

Oblobbles feel like playing Touhou

[fossil cedar]

sly is alright i don't care for him too much

[mortal grove]

exactly

[silver oak]

sly is good, I agree oblobbles are not

[opaque sigil]

Sly is a fine fight, although second phase is more annoying than hard

[mortal grove]

i didnt download a bullet hell geez

[cerulean tree]

oblobbles shouldnt even count as a boss

[opaque sigil]

Yeah. ik it's possible to dodge it it's just really annoying

[velvet ruin]

Sly is pretty consistent

[fossil cedar]

i agree i never considered those two a boss

[silver oak]

soul warrior is more of a boss than several early bosses

[cerulean tree]

mawlek is bad too

[fossil cedar]

soul warrior got me sleepin through his fight

[velvet ruin]

Mawlek is ok imo

[fossil cedar]

mawlek is aight but i don't know why i struggle so much with it

[opaque sigil]

Soul warrior's first fight is very underwhelming in basically every way

[mortal grove]

nosk

[opaque sigil]

Second fight at least gives a good reward

[cerulean tree]

cuz hes on a dumb ass platform

[velvet ruin]

I don't know why I died like 5 times to Soul Warrior

[fossil cedar]

that's true

[velvet ruin]

Maybe because I had nail 0?

[fossil cedar]

i damage tank i just give up on trying to dodge him

[opaque sigil]

Soul Warrior doesn't really do much

[fossil cedar]

soul warrior is just the mantis lords but underwhelming and boring

[opaque sigil]

Like he just dashes and does a homing projectile, and since you just went through soul sanctum you probably know how to manage homing projectiles

[fossil cedar]

nah i just run really fast

you got me messed up if you really think i know how to dodge them

[cerulean tree]

soul warrior is a loser

[velvet ruin]

What if there was a Hunter's Pantheon where you fight every journal entry in order

[opaque sigil]

If you just jump over them they will usually overshoot on the way back, slam into the ground

[fossil cedar]

honestly would be fun

[cerulean tree]

pretty cool idea

[opaque sigil]

Homing projectiles are only really a big issue if they get multiple passes at you, which is pretty uncommon

[velvet ruin]

Would also be really long and boring and stupid

[silver oak]

that would be very tedious

[fossil cedar]

nah im talkin about the ones in the soul sanctum the warrior himself is easy

[opaque sigil]

so like p5

[silver oak]

comes up with idea
Other people: "good idea"
"Nah it sucks"

[cerulean tree]

so like me