sk-discussion

[gray swift]

nevermind

[full rune]

team berry is good satire cause it's clear it's not trying too hard to impersonate them

[wheat sail]

I got hyped too from them then read their tag

[subtle moth]

I got tricked by team cherry ganes youtube, twice 🗿🗿

[wheat sail]

[gray swift]

team berry is just evil team cherry

[sinful flare]

Team cherry ganes 😍😍😍😍

[gray swift]

evil team cherry: silksong releases tomorrow

[coarse leaf]

Im gonna be on vacation 2 weeks until the end of January I hope I forget about SS for a while 💀

[subtle moth]

If silksong isn't finished which is probably isn't, team cherry should just release it and add other content to in a dlc or smth

[coarse leaf]

There might be a boss rush in Elden Ring

[brittle garnet]

I'm gonna have 2 weeks of break in february I hope it releases so I can play it then

[sinful flare]

Stupid hollow knight reference

[small goblet]

too bad i suck at souls likes

[subtle moth]

nice, good luck, god bless ur soul, may it find peace from ss

[wheat sail]

It will release during the next great depression housing market bubble crash world war 3

[small goblet]

though i somehow did almost everything in hk

[coarse leaf]

I'm really curious how much can TC develop SS in a year, like how much do they work and how different is the game from one year to another

[wheat sail]

Game dev roadmap

[brittle garnet]

well, at the end of 2019 they had 165 enemies after 2 years of development (with about 14 months being full-time development)

[coarse leaf]

well yeah enemies are the least interesting for me

[wheat sail]

Well they probably shifted their focus to other parts of the game

[subtle moth]

fun fact the housing market is in a significant bubble, Australia is buying significant nunbers of tanks for defense against china, the United States and it's allies are increasing armorment in the sea around China, the US dollar is at it's highest inflation rate, much higher then the last great depression, and several billion dollars are unnacounted for after a significant chinease company went into default, which could very well start a chain reaction that crashes the global economy

silksong could be sooner then we thought guys!!!!!

[graceful iris]

they also said they could fully create one enemy within like four hours

[tawdry valley]

#sk-discussion message

[wheat sail]

cause it isnt just enemies after all. Level design, coding, art

[heady iron]

when will tc release the source code of hungry knight

[coarse leaf]

do you guys think on the next nintendo direct that SS will be dropped?

[brittle garnet]

it was like 1 hour iirc

20 minutes to animate and design, 20 to code, plus filler

[tawdry valley]

All of you donkeys trying to calculate development speed/time to figure out how big the game is please redirect here: #sk-discussion message

[wheat sail]

SS wont be dropped by maybe a release date (no clown pls)

[graceful iris]

i feel itll prob be in a nintendo direct omaybe not the next one though

[wheat sail]

you are a donkey

[tawdry valley]

Moo

[coarse leaf]

so supposedly the below one is the latest version of that area? I think the top one looks better

[brittle garnet]

well that's fine and dandy but
||don't care+ratio+irrelevant||
this isn't really relevant to the discussion and also it's potentially wrong

[tawdry valley]

That TC is working on things that aren’t exclusively just more content?

[subtle moth]

nvm

[brittle garnet]

for example the changes are almost 2 years apart, not one
we don't know about any foundational changes the game has undergone through

[graceful iris]

the top one literally has additional background structures

[opaque sigil]

Top one is the newer one

[brittle garnet]

nobody said that they aren't?

[wheat sail]

Maybe they are slowly deleting the game and they had it done at e3

[coarse leaf]

thats what i thought ok

[tawdry valley]

Silksong development started with the assumption it would be a DLC for HK. Yes it has had foundational changes.

[subtle moth]

team cherry is so smart

[brittle garnet]

no, those foundational changes all happened before it even started being developed

[subtle moth]

we know about the hornet height thing and the sloe transition from dlc to game

[graceful iris]

there will be 11 different endings to silksong

[coarse leaf]

this is cool as well

[subtle moth]

it wasn't in full devlopment but they were working on it when it was still just a dlc lol

[brittle garnet]

it wasn't a slow transition at all, they never started developing a DLC, it was gonna be a game very early on

[tawdry valley]

That’s what I’m mainly proposing in the message that you referred to as potentially wrong. I’m only trying to criticize the idea that we can predict the games size by looking at something like “oh they make a boss in like 1 week, and it’s been 3 years, so they probably have at least 80” 🥴

[sinful flare]

They are made out of uhhhh wood now?

[coarse leaf]

its not wood, its just damaged

[brittle garnet]

they even said themselves that they realized it was gonna be a full game very early on

[atomic sparrow]

hi

[sinful flare]

Wow they've been damaged since the last update

[subtle moth]

they said the hornet height thing took a year and a half and yeah they started developing a dlc they talk about it in interviews. btw i'm including the brainstorming process in development. We don't know if they started coding a dlc or not

[graceful iris]

i think he is talking about how they had to change overall world design (larger stuff) to accomodate for hornets larger design, and TC's struggle with dealing with that change

[sinful flare]

Perhaps something big attacked pharloom after the old trailer

[tawdry valley]

No

[brittle garnet]

we have nothing to suggest they struggled but ok

[graceful iris]

No

[sinful flare]

No

[brittle garnet]

the game was being developed as a full game all along

[subtle moth]

the statues are newer, it'd be funny if a monster attacked and left behidn statues

[brittle garnet]

the only exception is probably just some sprites or incredibly minor stuff

[sinful flare]

You know. Gotta have respect for the statues right

[subtle moth]

nah fam. speaking from the holy scripture [team cherry interviews] that's just not true

[tawdry valley]

@brittle garnet is the entirety of game development time spend producing playable content that increases the length of the game?

You agree the answer is no, there are people in this channel who are inclined to inflate their expectations for the game on a basis that’s the result of misunderstanding videogame development as a whole.

[brittle garnet]

point me to the exact quote then

[subtle moth]

I can find u a source if u rlly want

[sinful flare]

Is this like the bible of #sk-discussion

[brittle garnet]

I'm not even arguing this point, the initial question was how much content can TC make in a year, not how much Silksong will have

[subtle moth]

all the fruits of team cherry labor are sancitfied holy artifacts I am nearly not worthy of percieving

[brittle garnet]

do it then, I'm really curious

[opaque sigil]

Well how much content TC can produce in a year and how much they do produce in a year are probably not the same, since not all time is spent producing new content

[brittle garnet]

that's fair

[tawdry valley]

Literally depends on what stage development is at, what the devs are intending to do at any given point in time, and what their focus for newly developed content is

[brittle garnet]

it was a theoretical question, all those things are irrelevant

[wheat sail]

discord argument

[tawdry valley]

How is the stage of game development not relevant to what is produced during game development.

[tawdry valley]

Basically just this

[brittle garnet]

because this is a theoretical question about how much content TC would be capable of producing in a year
not how much content they do make in a year

[coarse leaf]

i imagine they put goals to themselves in developmente, like weekly or monthly goals like we want to be done with this aspect of the game by the end of the month stuff like that

[opaque sigil]

Maybe but how is that relevant

[coarse leaf]

I'm just speculating

[tawdry valley]

You’ve misunderstood the point being made. TC can fill areas with double the enemy types in one month, but what they likely do instead is polish existing areas, levels, and enemies.

[subtle moth]

https://youtu.be/Gv6CRPqkpuU

skip to the one minute mark, they talk about how they start as dlc, kick around ideas for what it could be, and settle on it being a full game. I'd call that a development revalation, but ai can see how you might not see it that way. Revalation sounds significant, but the way they talk about it it sounds pretty chill. It's all subjective idk why I started arguing, sorry about that

[tawdry valley]

How much “content” they produce literally depends on what content they are focusing on. The entire development process is a balance between quantity/quality

[coarse leaf]

why would your
your mother attack pharloom

[sinful flare]

A couple bugs annoyed her

[tawdry valley]

So asking about the maximum quantity is irrelevant, because it has no weight on what they actually aim to do and do.

[brittle garnet]

"...It was very early on intended to be DLC*..." come on they straight up say it

[subtle moth]

i still see that as development is all

[sinful flare]

I mean it's a dumb evidence but they have something for hornet dlc and zote dlc in the game code but i dont think there is any code for hornet movement and zote movement

[brittle garnet]

they even said that it was 'intended' as a DLC, not 'developed'
it might have not even left the concept stage

[coral glacier]

Silksong tomorrow probably

[opaque sigil]

Arch he's explicitly including that as part of the process

[brittle garnet]

they also said that there was a "slow transition from DLC to full game"

and knowing how TC brainstorms concepts (very fast) that couldn't have been the case

[wheat sail]

xD

[brittle garnet]

it was also in response to another message that said that Silksong "has been undergoing fundamental changes from the start of its development"

meaning several

[opaque sigil]

Which it probably has

Projects tend to change pretty significantly

[brittle garnet]

true but it gave the "transition to full game" and the "took one year to realize the impact of Hornet's height" as examples

and the former was then stated as a "slow process"

[opaque sigil]

Transition into full game was at least a significant conceptual change, even if actual intensive dev hadn't started

And however gradual, it was still a significant change

[brittle garnet]

yeah but that's not the point I'm contending
of course it was a significant change

though to be fair we don't know if it was a very impactful change at that moment (as in they might not have had much yet that they needed to change)

[old burrow]

Cherry rlly said "Silk Song Soon" and then disappeared

modern DB Cooper

[wheat sail]

silksong soon counter: 1539

[old burrow]

I hate this phenomenon of "soon," KZero DLC is "coming soon," Cyberpunk was "coming soon,"

[opaque sigil]

TC has never said SS was coming soon

[old burrow]

Like UGH feature creap has the industry by the balls

[brittle garnet]

no it's not feature creep it's because the spokepeople/developers are terrible at predicting it

[sinful flare]

Woo silksong on 1/1/2021

Im so excited

[brittle garnet]

and it can't really be predicted very accurately to begin with

[glass vigil]

Actually, Cyberpunk was coming “when it’s ready” and we all know how that turned out

[old burrow]

Just like

stop blue balling us, please. It's uncool.

[opaque sigil]

Who?

[nimble radish]

sorry I'll stop

silksong will release in around 5

[coarse leaf]

5 weeks

[sinful flare]

2

[old burrow]

AM?PM?What date?

[nimble radish]

maybe 6 if we run into complications

[sinful flare]

Probably 5 PM

[stark estuary]

It will release in 5 light years

[coarse leaf]

so in 275 years

[wheat sail]

maybe the game will release at midnight on steam

[small goblet]

good knight everyone

[still elm]

its never coming out

[stark estuary]

I agree. Silknever.

[opaque sigil]

It will. Not today, and not in every timezone, but it will definitely release at midnight on steam

[fringe pulsar]

Oh

[wheat sail]

(austrian time)

[sinful flare]

Yeah in one of the timezones it will release at midnight

[uncut citrus]

i agree

[fierce seal]

???

[uncut citrus]

||i am looking for the moment i said like "silksong will release in X" but i dont remeber what number i said and looking thought "silksong" isnt exactly fast||

[sinful flare]

Oh god

[uncut citrus]

GET REKT

[sinful flare]

Time to send silksong 2 more times

[uncut citrus]

no cause i will also say silksong

[sinful flare]

😡

[uncut citrus]

and i will use the world silksong more time than you

[sinful flare]

The... the silksong world??!?!?!?!! Are you the god of silksong land??!?!?

No... It cant be
Silksong... God... You...?? ????

[uncut citrus]

of course i am

[opaque sigil]

Reevers final boss of SS confirmed

[sinful flare]

???????????????????

[uncut citrus]

I MEAN I LITRALLY SAID IT

from: Reevers#2655 in:ss-discussion last boss

and most of them are about sherma positionned as demo in "how it feels to play demoman in TF2", which is exactly my pfp, being the true last boss of silksong

[sinful flare]

What the fuck silksong secret boss secret ending

[uncut citrus]

||one of them is that but we dont talk about that||

[sinful flare]

Gru mother

[uncut citrus]

why i am laughing this hard at my own joke

i think something inside my head is broken.

[sinful flare]

I d

[uncut citrus]

k

[feral tusk]

any event soon or are the clown memes just hk memes being itself?

[stark estuary]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[wheat sail]

nintendo direct probably

(january or february)

(or march or april)

[sinful flare]

By pure chance it can be in any event

[lost coyote]

probably jan or feb, maybe march but they never do directs in april

[velvet ruin]

What if Silksong shows up at the Oscars

[sage glade]

great, it would get 0 sales cause no one would know

[median isle]

If silksong is releasing in the next few months, I might finish HK in time for it

[winter cypress]

they did once but... yknow...

[lost coyote]

I just checked and they actually did do a direct on april 1st in 2015 lmao great date choice

but in recent years they've never done it in april so probably not again

[mystic pewter]

you haven't finished hollow knight

[hardy marsh]

And 2017

[opaque sigil]

Hot take: Maybe they just do directs whenever they feel like it and don't actively avoid months

[wheat sail]

very hot take

[serene chasm]

Get your "logic" out of here

[sacred stratus]

what is logic?

[sinful flare]

What the fuck are you talking about

[sacred stratus]

I don't know I just joined the conversation

btw ER in 43 days

[wheat sail]

why you gotta go to the ER?

[sacred stratus]

cause Elden ring is launching and my heart is gonna explode

[serene chasm]

cause they gonna play elder ring too hard

[wheat sail]

peoplea actually thinking ss will come out after elden ring

[warm bone]

I mean it will

[sacred stratus]

time to show these Nintendo suckers that BoTW is not the only good open world game

[reef pollen]

and after dying light 2

and after horizon FW

[random granite]

silksong is already out tho

[reef pollen]

all releasing in feb

[wheat sail]

Pokemon legends arceus will be way better than elden ring

[serene chasm]

Its not even a good open world game

[warm bone]

exclusive 🤮

[wheat sail]

...

[sacred stratus]

no playstation cause a PS5 costs 1000$ here

gonna have to either sacrafice my tuition (not an option), sell my soul to the devil (also not an option since I don't have a soul) or sell my kidney

[serene chasm]

I guess kidney it is

[wheat sail]

Kidneys arent important

[reef pollen]

it costs like 2-3 avg monthly salary in my country

[serene chasm]

hold still

[sacred stratus]

Nintendo succer detected

[wheat sail]

its true I love it no voice acting and 20 fps animations

[sacred stratus]

yo chill I only have one kidney I sold the other one for dead cells + all the DLCs

[random granite]

just get an only fans and sell your body, you can afford it then, then the only thing you lose is your shame

[serene chasm]

dude, you got ripped off

[sacred stratus]

can't if you're ugly af

[random granite]

i mean you can

just at a disadvantage

[sacred stratus]

it just won't work plus my social status would be a goner

[wheat sail]

just get plastic surgery

[sacred stratus]

costs money so what's the point

[wheat sail]

spend money to make money

[sacred stratus]

but that's not an option since I'm broke

[warm bone]

make money

[serene chasm]

stop being poor

[sacred stratus]

I'm just gonna wait until either my dad has enough of me and gives me a PS5 or some one will get their shit together and sell one for a reasonable price

[warm bone]

or just don't buy one

[sacred stratus]

I want to play bloodborne and DeS remake

[reef pollen]

use photoshop, its not so expensive

[sacred stratus]

DeS remake only available on PS5

[sacred stratus]

oh finally some good fucking advice

[warm bone]

you can play og demon's souls on pc with emulation

[serene chasm]

I just live with the fact that I'm never going to play every game, and that is ok

[sacred stratus]

looks shit plus no MP

[warm bone]

the remake kinda botched some of the art

[warm bone]

multiplayer?, they have mulitplayer

[sacred stratus]

every FromSoft game since the og DeS (except for Sekiro) has multiplayer

[sage glade]

[warm bone]

I mean they have multiplayer on the emulated demon's souls

[sacred stratus]

tho ERs multiplayer is gonna be cancer since DS3's MP is already filled with sweats and ER now has the jump which is basically a better roll so expect jump and roll spamming

[sacred stratus]

not possible since the servers for the OG DeS were shut down in 2018

[warm bone]

yeah, I really hope they fix estus cancel and the other glitches

[sacred stratus]

what is estus cancel?

[warm bone]

community servers are up

[warm bone]

glitch in ds3 used by pvp sweats

[sacred stratus]

I live in fucking nowhere so there ain't no community servers near me

[warm bone]

I don't think you get what I am saying

[sacred stratus]

oh and yeah I'm the only one in my friends group that is into FromSoft games so lonely life I guess

insert plin plin plon

[warm bone]

you can play multiplayer demon's souls on rpcs3 with the network feature

[sacred stratus]

oh

[warm bone]

yeah, I there are two souls nerds in my friend group and one is on console and the other is me

https://youtu.be/RfsVIWnqyt0 estus cancel

[warm bone]

and it's free

no stupid subscription service to play online

[sacred stratus]

imagine using exploits to win in a multiplayer game

[serene chasm]

question. how does one not suck at ds?

[warm bone]

play a lot

[warm bone]

have you heard of bow glitch?

[serene chasm]

pve. why would anyone play pvp in dark souls

[sacred stratus]

yes

[warm bone]

[dusty nimbus]

Sacrifice your soul to the Darkness

[sacred stratus]

it's sometimes nice to have someone invade you or just invade someone else if you're bored plus there's co-op so that's a plus

[serene chasm]

seriously though. I really suck at blocking and timing

[warm bone]

ds1 or 3?

[serene chasm]

3

[sacred stratus]

this is FromSoft you don't block you spam roll

[sinful flare]

Dont starve 3

[serene chasm]

I like how you dont ask if Im playing 2

[warm bone]

don't block in ds3, bad habit

[sacred stratus]

DS2 network is extra shit

[sinful flare]

mwmhmahmmamhma

[serene chasm]

then I run out of stamina and die

[sacred stratus]

and FromSoft's network is pretty shit anyways

[warm bone]

here is the secret tech that only souls pros know from hundreds of hours of experience: roll

[sacred stratus]

rolling consumes less stamina than attacking in most weapons

[serene chasm]

mp in Dark souls is just an excuse to have online drm

[warm bone]

always keep an eye on your stam and try to make some distance when it is low

[serene chasm]

ok. roll more. got it. anything else I should know.

[uncut citrus]

why not block and roll?

-this post was made by the shield while rolling mutation gang in DC

[sacred stratus]

armadilopack gang

[serene chasm]

Also I recently killed some big tree thing that drops you into a pit. How far am I

[warm bone]

the very begining

[sacred stratus]

not really far

[serene chasm]

Alright

[sacred stratus]

the mid-way is when you beat the vape lord

[serene chasm]

didnt think I was far. Just curious

[warm bone]

do you have the dlcs?

[serene chasm]

nope

[sacred stratus]

in DC or DS3?

[warm bone]

yeah

[sacred stratus]

the answer is yes for both

[sacred stratus]

plz buy them some of the best FromSoft bosses ever are in the DLCs

[warm bone]

or you can just roll when they attack

[serene chasm]

Im not going to buy dlc for a game that Im not even good at and will most likely never beat

[warm bone]

maybe attack occasionally yourself if you feel like it

[sacred stratus]

never give up

[warm bone]

I think hk is harder than ds3

just got to get the hang of the combat

[brittle garnet]

HK is definitely not harder than DS3

[serene chasm]

HK is way easier

[warm bone]

well, I am counting dlc

[brittle garnet]

not by a long shot

Godmaster and P5 doesn't count, it's not part of the main game experience

[warm bone]

well, it counts because I included it in my statement

[serene chasm]

maybe its me, but I find faster paced games easier. I find DS slower combat hard to wrap my mind around

[warm bone]

yeah you need to be much more deliberate with your movement and attacks

[dusty nimbus]

P5 can disappear for all I care

[brittle garnet]

yeah my feelings too

[sacred stratus]

yes it's very different but once you get the hang of it it's really fun

[serene chasm]

#fuckp5gang

[sacred stratus]

#fuckP5gang

[dusty nimbus]

[brittle garnet]

I don't like DS because there is a lot of bullshit

[warm bone]

really? I did not encounter that much in my couple of ds3 playthroughs

[serene chasm]

There is some bullshit

[warm bone]

maybe a little bullshit

[sage glade]

in ds1 yeah, the enemies could hit through walls but your weapon gets struck on walls

[serene chasm]

iirc, some of the enemies have fucking homing attacks

[sage glade]

ds2 has tons of bs

[warm bone]

just run to the left or right

[brittle garnet]

the combat is fun but the patterns of the bosses and enemies are really hard to grasp at first and doing them purely by reaction is hard, and there is a lot of attack chains that just kill you outright

[warm bone]

roll 😎

[brittle garnet]

i mean some of the harder enemies

[sage glade]

i don't think you're supposed to win during the first run

[serene chasm]

eww logic

[pale lion]

i have been reccomended dark souls a lot because im stubborn and like difficult games so i might give it a go

[brittle garnet]

also dying and having to go back through an entire area and losing all your Souls is immensely irritating and tedious

[warm bone]

in ds1 yeah, but ds3 has almost none of that

[brittle garnet]

funny because those are from my experiences with ds3

[warm bone]

there are always shortcuts that you can unlock to skip a bunch of the enemies to go straight for the boss

[serene chasm]

I have noticed that. its nice

[warm bone]

and even when there are not, you can just run past them or kill them, there are never really that many

[brittle garnet]

i stopped playing on the crab swamp because the process of timing rolls, avoiding enemies and getting combo'd to death instantly was more tiring to me than it was fun

[serene chasm]

issue is finding them sometimes

[warm bone]

ahh it makes sense now

[serene chasm]

Hey! thats where I am

[warm bone]

I have like 5 playthroughs under my belt and I think that your complaints mostly stem from inexperience/not getting far in the game

[brittle garnet]

the crabs weren't so bad actually, but it was more the fact that I had to be on edge with every enemy and also those 2 fucking npc knights which dodged my every attack

[warm bone]

well, that's not the only way you can go

there are 2 paths from that area

[brittle garnet]

yeah it's also partly due to inexperience but also I'm playing on controller and I'm not used to controller at all

but keyboard is kinda clunky

[warm bone]

yeah dark souls is a controller game

[serene chasm]

Bongo drums are the only way to play

[brittle garnet]

I played monster hunter on kb+m just fine tho

[warm bone]

morse code is my preferred method

[warm bone]

yeah, mh is less about spacing and just about rolling in time, you need that extra movement precision that a controller affords you to play dark souls the most optimally

spacing is big in dark souls

[brittle garnet]

oh no MH is much more about spacing and much less about rolling in time

rolling in MH is harder than in Dark Souls

[warm bone]

well, depends what weapon you got

[brittle garnet]

not really, all of the weapons have less iframes than the dark souls roll

[warm bone]

playing with a katana requires almost no spacing from the player

[brittle garnet]

true, it depends on the weapon, but none of the weapons have wildly better dodge rolls

[jade canopy]

I know most ds player talk about controller supremacy, but I’ve never really understood why, it works well on MK

[brittle garnet]

some weapons just have more sources of defense, like counters and other i-frame moves

[glass vigil]

While playing Hollow Knight it never even crossed my mind, having too much health? Get real dude, hollow knight is difficult enough as it is.

You’re very talented or very arrogant

[warm bone]

🤨

[glass vigil]

Do I need to draw to you? Say the word

[brittle garnet]

i think they mean with all health and nail upgrades it's easy to facetank bosses

[gray swift]

you would have liked the beta

[warm bone]

yeah in the base game maybe

[brittle garnet]

in combat challenges the max health doesn't give such a return because they're far longer

[jade canopy]

Nah, his comment is very much correct, bosses such as sly get absolutely destroyed with the right uses of I-frames, as they said the only problem is the I-frames not the actual health

[gray swift]

thats true, but you're not really supposed to have all health and nail upgrades when you fight something like hornet 1 or mantis lords

[coarse leaf]

Some bosses will still whoop you if you try and tank them

[gray swift]

yeah

[brittle garnet]

true

[coarse leaf]

Especially in the Hall of Gods

[serene chasm]

ss bosses that do 4 mask damage please!

[brittle garnet]

but it seems like facetanking won't be possible in Silksong

with the lower iframes and more damaging moves

[glass vigil]

He literally said “too much health”

[opaque sigil]

Facetanking also won't really make sense as an option since healing midcombat is more viable

[gray swift]

that'd be interesting

[opaque sigil]

Like there's no reason to facetank when healing is so easy

[opaque sigil]

Wouldn't be surprised ngl

[serene chasm]

It will happen. In the edge article, they talk about enemies doing 2 mask damage in the early game.

[jade canopy]

And you should read after the first line

[gray swift]

mmm, i don't think they'd go above 2 frankly

[opaque sigil]

Lace's flurry already does two

[serene chasm]

Hornet heals fast and a lot more then the knight. So a boss or big enemy doing 4 masks wouldnt be crazy

[wheat sail]

Imagine if you could parry multi hit moves like flurry attacks. that would be sexy

[warm bone]

is there a way to make my character looks different in mhw, like edit it's face even though I have already made it

[uncut citrus]

can do more

[serene chasm]

but you have to time the block frame perfectly

[opaque sigil]

Flurry or the teleport slash

Teleport slash may do 3 but I'm not 100% sure on that

[uncut citrus]

we alalized that once

[wheat sail]

It would be sexy

[gray swift]

perhaps you're right, but hopefully the first boss doesn't do 4 masks of damage

[uncut citrus]

[serene chasm]

Does lace actually do 2 damage, or are her attacks capable of comboing together do do lots of damage

[opaque sigil]

aight yeah that's 3

[opaque sigil]

Some attacks are designed such that if they hit you they're guaranteed to hit again, so it's effectively doing two

[gray swift]

when i saw the little jab flurry she does i thought it wouldn't work very well, but then i realized it's not a multi hit it just stuns hornet and then finishes with one attack that does damage

[opaque sigil]

It's two masks but they look fancy

[torpid fractal]

i thought this said furry

[uncut citrus]

this attack seems todo 2, and maybe pull you for a 1maskhit, but as i said back then we arent sure if you can avoid the pull and only take 2 unless someone here was playing there

[brittle garnet]

I don't think so, since in that clip they didn't get hit right at the start

[gray swift]

i can't wait to be pulled in from across the boss arena by some grab move and take 10 masks of damage

[brittle garnet]

i saw another clip where someone entered Lace's flurry towards the end of the animation and the animation extended to deal 2 masks, so I think it deals a static amount no matter what

[wheat sail]

hornet parrying lace https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzS96auqau0

[warm bone]

https://youtu.be/alOZI2QjWmg

[serene chasm]

lol. I was totally thinking that

[gray swift]

this was absolutely brutal

[wheat sail]

These were perfect, cause from normal blocks he would take a little damage from which he would have died. these were frame perfect ithink

[serene chasm]

HK fighting game when?

[burnt topaz]

the superior version

[gray swift]

i really wanted the knight in smash, it'd be perfect as dlc because of the soul meter

[opaque sigil]

Only time I really parry is PV and even then it's not really necessary

[uncut citrus]

Sly parries work well, but i never doem

[serene chasm]

fuck smash. I want a fighting game where I can 1v1 people with HK characters

[uncut citrus]

Rivals of aether probably already have a TK

[burnt topaz]

does mugen have hk characters

yes it does

[uncut citrus]

if Rivals doesnt have HK characters ill make one (the day i can actually have the game)

[serene chasm]

TC doesnt let others use their characters

[wheat sail]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1420350/Fraymakers/ fighting game with indie characters

Steam

Fraymakers

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Release Date

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early access soon :I

[uncut citrus]

since it doesnt have a name we have no copyright problems

[full rune]

actually there is 1 fighting game with the knight iirc

[gray swift]

someone made the knight in rivals

[burnt topaz]

was that the ape from ape out in there

[gray swift]

as a workshop character

[uncut citrus]

ok well good

cause idk how to make rivals characters

[wheat sail]

all you have to do is make it

[verbal trench]

hollow knight silksong will be real in

[sage glade]

3
2
1

lol that looked like the explosion from akira

[coarse leaf]

Leth liked this, he literally is the devil

[warm bone]

man, he must be really annoyed with people asking him for the release date to like that

[coarse leaf]

Yes

[reef scarab]

It’s because hk release date is being revealed tomorrow /j

[coarse leaf]

maybe

[serene chasm]

then their wish would have come true

[coarse leaf]

not tomorrow 14th but feb 14th 👀

[warm bone]

feb 25th

[wheat sail]

I wish for a copy of silksong in my hands right now

Depression

[safe adder]

Ss is a Hoax just to make people hope and dream for tomorrow so they can forget about this covid full 2 years

[fringe pulsar]

😔

[wheat sail]

[tranquil raft]

I like silk

[wheat sail]

Eat some

[tranquil raft]

[coral glacier]

I like agressive bees

[coarse leaf]

I like Silksong y'all should play it

[tranquil raft]

Hornet is a black wasp

[static rose]

who saw hornet and was like, yea, thats a spider.

[high hedge]

Hornet becomes Void in Milksong

[hardy marsh]

Herrah doesn’t look spidery either

[static rose]

very true

[dusty nimbus]

Hornet is milk

[uncut citrus]

thats not true

[static rose]

no, it is

[dusty nimbus]

Explains why she can control the long strands of cheese

[dusty nimbus]

Next time please spoiler tag it, not everyone here is immune to entomophobia

[sage glade]

hornut

[true vine]

I like bugs

[uncut citrus]

oh dindt think of that

[dusty nimbus]

I also like bugs

[sage glade]

how did they play hk 👀

[true vine]

bugs are cool

[olive zealot]

eplain this

[blissful tree]

Spder

[dusty nimbus]

I'd like to taste fried tarantulas

[coral glacier]

Milksong

[burnt topaz]

hey thats hornet

[true vine]

everything is just a vaguely bug-esque stick figure tagged as a bug

[uncut citrus]

ok let me afewminutes

not the spiders for ambiencein deepnest

you know what i meant

[true vine]

ay these things actually look kind of similar to the chests in hk

do you guys thing we'll be able to open some of them in the game?

[sage glade]

i just didn't know this severe entomophobia existed. that's just vector art of a hornet. TIL

[dusty nimbus]

I never saw hk before I joined the community and went like, oh those are bugs

[opaque sigil]

Ballow is shoveling coal into one

[dusty nimbus]

Once I saw the community jocking about them being bugs did I realise it's about buga

[olive zealot]

imagine realizing that when you enter deepnest and you're like
OOOOOOOH aracnophobia hits hard

[burnt topaz]

i can imagine cracking one open for rosaries or shards or items

[blissful tree]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-hornet-needle-hornet-playing-her-needle-gif-24057267

Hornet liked sord

Likes*

[true vine]

are you ok

[dusty nimbus]

Actually arachnophobia and entomophobia are two different things since spiders are not considered insects but as arachnids

[thick silo]

lol your name XD

[olive zealot]

put Gollum voice line on this

[sage glade]

there's a huge overlap of people in both doe

[blissful tree]

it is true

[true vine]

about your nickname, you just posted a gif of an anthropomorphic arachnid

cheers!

[sage glade]

checkmate

[pale lion]

deepnest helped me get over my arachanaphobia

[blissful tree]

the wild hornet now pets it’s weapon.its needle.

[dusty nimbus]

I can't deny that since the general population just doesn't care what they're scientifically classified as just whether they are tiny, annoy and have a possibility entering your body

[sage glade]

they also creepy crawly

[uncut citrus]

They drop things that explode and hurts you

[blissful tree]

with this looking wrong with it being wired seeing this cloaked bug have its arms out with us seeing it have its arms in the cloak with its almost every appearance

and that’s what discord GIFs like to see

[uncut citrus]

I can image someone dying to that in a no-death run (or silksoul if it’s perma death)

Would be pretty funny

[blissful tree]

same

[opaque sigil]

Silk soul permadeath

[dusty nimbus]

Wrong, furries aren't bad, they terrify me

[blissful tree]

yes

But the new attack style looks good and fun ngl

[dusty nimbus]

Hornet uses anime character slash

[blissful tree]

With it being annoying to attack from the top in hk

[potent plover]

What silksong news cult is everyone in now?

[trim estuary]

Yeah like how I hate spiders but like most bugs

[potent plover]

been gone for like an hour, I wonder what changed.

[dusty nimbus]

None

[potent plover]

Is anything happening?

people have to be hoping for something soon, right?

[dusty nimbus]

Hopeless people perhaps

But I don't keep tabs with them

I'm here for the random discussions and chaos

Silksong can wait till it's ready

[potent plover]

That's great

Ok, time to leave for another month or so.

[brittle garnet]

yes, a lot of people are hoping for february

because of nvidia leak and google/youtube misinformation

[potent plover]

well I might come in when February comes just to see the chaos

[hardy marsh]

Hopefully you’ll be here sooner, because something happens.

[dusty nimbus]

You probably fell for the oldest trick in the book

[hardy marsh]

No trick. Also no knowledge. Just hopium.

[dusty nimbus]

See, the oldest trick in the book

[hardy marsh]

Yeah I guess you’re right

[dusty nimbus]

It happens to the best of us

[hardy marsh]

Joe mama

[dusty nimbus]

I couldn't resist but save it

Does that mean you're Necro's reincarnation?

[potent plover]

I should delete my entire trace and record from the internet, that would be funny

[dusty nimbus]

You can't, the mods can still see everything

[potent plover]

necro is gone?

[dusty nimbus]

Even if you delete the account the username may be gone but the letter are fovever etched in history

[dusty nimbus]

Nope

[potent plover]

Delete the internet

[potent plover]

necro is dead?

[dusty nimbus]

So you found the master key to the internet?

[potent plover]

I am the internet

[dusty nimbus]

No Necro is still kicking I presume but I haven't seen him in a while so yeah he's dead

If you're the internet can you tell me the master key?

[burnt topaz]

he is very much still around

[burnt topaz]

his name is just fleshmancer

[dusty nimbus]

Well timezones do collide

[burnt topaz]

what the fuck what is this
when did i say this

[dusty nimbus]

March martyr?

How did you die?

[burnt topaz]

I die march 31st for silksong

im not a martyr yet but i will be

[potent plover]

I have an image of every single hk discord user saying that

[dusty nimbus]

Idc when, I care about how

[burnt topaz]

how many do you have

[burnt topaz]

you get to decide :)

[dusty nimbus]

Oh, do me next

[dusty nimbus]

Licked to death

[burnt topaz]

ok you dont get to choose anymore

[dusty nimbus]

Or crushing, choose wisely

[potent plover]

in case you wanted to know

[trim estuary]

That would be incredibly painful

[potent plover]

Literally a month ago

[burnt topaz]

a month
oh my god

[dusty nimbus]

I mean, they wanted me to choose and martyrs don't die the peaceful way if you look at the Christian martyrs

[burnt topaz]

was licked to death the only thing you could think of

[dusty nimbus]

This is also very much still a choice

[burnt topaz]

im keeping this one

[potent plover]

shit

[dusty nimbus]

You didn't get the parentheses

[wheat sail]

Death by plastic knife

[dusty nimbus]

Just make the person choke on it

[burnt topaz]

the original version is bad enough already

[dusty nimbus]

The edited is worse by far

[potent plover]

What edited version?

[dusty nimbus]

But anyway let's not linger on it anymore

[burnt topaz]

for sure but im not that cruel
it can be a secret kept between us 3

[dusty nimbus]

Idk what you're talking about ||just let's move from that as a topic||

[dusty nimbus]

[true vine]

#sk-discussion message

[uncut citrus]

what even is this

[burnt topaz]

nothing

[potent plover]

anyways lets talk about silksong

[true vine]

I swear if you delete it

[burnt topaz]

i dont remember anything i say beyond a month apparently

[dusty nimbus]

I'll lick you to death, don't test my mercy Bamaxdaws

[true vine]

bruh

[uncut citrus]

...

[dusty nimbus]

Lmao

[potent plover]

Anyways let's talk about uh silksong

[burnt topaz]

drop a topic

[dusty nimbus]

Squid aerodynamics

[potent plover]

silksong

[dusty nimbus]

Are fish birds to crabs?

Since they are flying on their eyes

[uncut citrus]

[burnt topaz]

crabs dont hold the concept of birds

[potent plover]

crabs can swim too I think

[dusty nimbus]

Yeah but not that much

[burnt topaz]

will there be jumping crabs in silksong

[true vine]

so fish are birds to crabs if crabs were people with jetpacks

[burnt topaz]

its kinda weird how sea creatures have sorta naturally integrated themselves into the hk universe

[potent plover]

speaking of crabs, lets talk about the aquatic area with the things

[dusty nimbus]

Coconut crabs seem very delicious and I can't get it out of my head

[true vine]

spider crabs?

[burnt topaz]

they look buff

what about these guys

[true vine]

dude imagine eating just a single leg of this thing

you'd be set for life

[potent plover]

Hearing "coconut crabs" while forgetting what they actually look like puts a strange image in my head

[dusty nimbus]

[potent plover]

That does not look like a coconut

[dusty nimbus]

Indeed

[opaque sigil]

It's not a coconut crab

[dusty nimbus]

That looks like a king crab

Or a spider crab

[opaque sigil]

This is a coconut crab

[burnt topaz]

yo what the absolute hell, why are crabs like this

[dusty nimbus]

Idk why but I have the urge to cook it

[potent plover]

that does not look like a crab

[dusty nimbus]

It can hunt and devour a seagull

[potent plover]

what the fuck

[opaque sigil]

Well I imagine the seagull has to be inattentive

But yeah it definitely can kill a seagull

[dusty nimbus]

Yeah, they climb a tree and crush it's wing when it doesn't expect it

[true vine]

there is a video of it doing just that

I am lucky enough to have not watched it

[potent plover]

please nobody send the link

[true vine]

anyway what do you all think of lobster

I hope no one here is vegan

[opaque sigil]

Never had it but it smells gross

[dusty nimbus]

Then drags it alive to its friend and says that meat is back on the menu

[true vine]

I misread that

[burnt topaz]

ive never had lobster but i liked watching them in tanks

that sounds psychotic i just think they look cool

[potent plover]

Wtf?

[dusty nimbus]

They good I think, dumb child me refused to eat it, missed a gold opportunity

[opaque sigil]

Presumably before they get boiled alive

[potent plover]

Wait oh you mean those tanks lmao

[burnt topaz]

they had these tanks set up with the lobsters inside
look i live in a seaside town this kinda stuff is common

[dusty nimbus]

Damn I'm hungry now

I'll go to sleep gn

[burnt topaz]

gn chaos

[potent plover]

Pray you dream of silksong

I have had 2 dreams on silksong

one was a fever dream and one was a dream of TGA

[gray swift]

why would you want them to dream of silksong only to wake up and realize it was indeed a dream

[potent plover]

damn you are right

I gotta tell them

[true vine]

why do people look at spiders and go "that's disgusting, get that away from me" and then they look at a giant spiky sea spider and go "that's delicious"

[burnt topaz]

it can be funny

[potent plover]

but how

true, It can indeed be funny

[burnt topaz]

nah i just looked it up they look gross

[gray swift]

i don't know why but crabs aren't on the same level of creepiness as spiders

[potent plover]

surprisingly removing the "Spiky"" from it may make it scarier

[gray swift]

they're pretty cool actually

[coarse leaf]

cos spiders aren't delicious

[heady iron]

have you ever eaten one

[true vine]

apparently they actually are

[true vine]

likely because you grew up eating crabs while being taught that spiders are creepy and bad

[uncut citrus]

I wanted to make a cursed joke but yknow what I won’t

[gray swift]

my brother ate a spider's legs once, said it was salty

[gray swift]

i've never had crab actually.

[true vine]

well you were taught that crabs were for eating likely, even if you've never eaten one

also you have to try it, it's delicious

[steady raven]

Ss-discussion is now seafood-discussion. All HK content will be removed, only lobsters may remain

[potent plover]

on the topic of bugs, I assume that weird-looking enemy might be a slug?

[true vine]

lobsters used to be considered so bad the food was reserved for prisoners

[uncut citrus]

:snailjam:

[gray swift]

i once watched some asmr video of a floating mouth consuming a giant crab and dipping it in cheese and tomato (?) sauce

[potent plover]

What about discussion about that one silksong lobster boss?

[gray swift]

it was an interesting experience

[potent plover]

ah, So it's a jam, My mistake.

[uncut citrus]

Also it has Legs but whatever

[true vine]

yum

[potent plover]

I eat jam pretty often

[uncut citrus]

Escargot with jelly actually good ????

[true vine]

hornet is a spider
she has four legs

[uncut citrus]

Still a snail with legs doesn’t make sense

[burnt topaz]

well you can lose legs, you cant gain them

[true vine]

team cherry isn't very concerned with being accurate, as we can tell

[uncut citrus]

...

[true vine]

tell that to people with prosthetics

[burnt topaz]

hm youre right

[true vine]

their legs are often better than normal legs

[coarse leaf]

isn't she like half wyrm though, so does she average out to 2?

[true vine]

no she averages out to four

hm

[uncut citrus]

Everyone please don’t talk for 11seconds after I post the snail

[true vine]

you have a point

[brittle garnet]

the best answer is that HK spider =/= real world spider

[gray swift]

the knight and vessels are children of the pale king and the white lady, you don't see roots growing out of the vessels

[coarse leaf]

are we including her arms as legs?

[true vine]

yes

[uncut citrus]

🦵 🦵

[true vine]

almost

[burnt topaz]

yeah hes jammin

[uncut citrus]

[true vine]

or silksong2022 could just delete their message

[gray swift]

is that the joke?

[true vine]

there legs were going to be under the snail

[gray swift]

i thought it was just jamming by shaking it's head

[uncut citrus]

(If i could use it there would be a gun next to Sherma)

[gray swift]

oh sure

[true vine]

the reactions ruined it :C

[potent plover]

[gray swift]

i mean the gif though, not the legs

[uncut citrus]

N O T T H I S W A Y

[potent plover]

[uncut citrus]

[burnt topaz]

remove it now or i leak the pics

[potent plover]

hmm

fine

[uncut citrus]

I saw you with the

[true vine]

brilliant

[uncut citrus]

I’m actually gonna get nitro just to make stuff like this

This is much limited

I can’t even add hands to the legged snail

[brittle garnet]

on windows the legs are reversed

[uncut citrus]

Ik since it’s a base emote it’s wierd

[burnt topaz]

hes moonwalking

[uncut citrus]

Let me do that on another server where I have more possibilities then post a screen there

[gilded adder]

my Silk friends

[heady iron]

how about that youtube leak

[uncut citrus]

[coarse leaf]

goodknight

[burnt topaz]

good night

[valid lagoon]

[signal panther]

Guys guess what

[serene chasm]

chicken butt

[signal panther]

Im leaving

[serene chasm]

k

[signal panther]

You always do this

[true vine]

thank you both for a screenshot I will cherish forever

[uncut citrus]

That is indeed really funny

Sounds like a couples or smth with the « you always do this! »

[coarse leaf]

Nah

So, news tomorrow

Can’t wait! Oh boy oh yippie oh goodie oh wowza

[hardy marsh]

news.... in 2 minutes?

[coarse leaf]

Nope!

[wheat sail]

Your mom told me they will announce a late february release date

[hardy marsh]

it's tomorrow in 2 mins tho

[coarse leaf]

My mom told me that too no way

[wheat sail]

Nice woman

[coarse leaf]

Nope!

[hardy marsh]

ye huh

[coarse leaf]

Tell your mother I think she’s nice too!

[wheat sail]

Can't rn I am with your mother

[coarse leaf]

dw, I’ll tell her myself this night

[wheat sail]

but i will rememeber

[coarse leaf]

Nah, no need for that

[wheat sail]

Oh I see nice 😄

I'm sorry for your loss

[coarse leaf]

No way! That’s exactly what your mother said to me yesterday!

So, time to post my Ogrim theory

Ogrim is one of few characters who are missing in Hallownest, would have a reason to leave the kingdom, AND actually COULD have the power to traverse the outskirts of the kingdom without turning mindless. MY idea is - since there is no reason for Ogrim to hide himself anymore from the kingdom (since it's dead), he has a reason to leave the sewers. My ideology is that AFTER the White Defender fights, he realized that there was nothing there for him anymore - he was mostly talking about how he misses everybody. So, if he somehow manages to let go of his attachment to Isma, he would realistically be able to leave the kingdom, right? It's a possibility! It's unlikely for him to ditch Isma, even more unlikely for him to leave Hallownest, and even more unlikely for him to stumble upon Pharloom - but my point is, WHERE did he go? Where has he run off to after the five battles? Is he just hiding in the shit piles, or is he traversing the world beyond Hallownest? And he certainly does have the fighting prowess to defend himself!

On top of this, I think TC promised that they would expand more upon the Five Great Knights?

I have more to the theory! You know how the Battle of Blackwyrm and Knotted Grove was never explained? Since the Great Knights could leave the kingdom (possibly to defend Hallownest from the outside), I bet that these battles were some of the endeavours that the five had to overcome away from the kingdom! Further confirming that Ogrim can indeed leave the kingdom and fight - IF MY INITIAL STATEMENT about BoB and KG was correct.

Btw ogrim appears as a tool in SS

[wheat sail]

Ratio

[gilded adder]

[coarse leaf]

This tool also definitely comes from the new Ogrim fight “Piss Protector”

[hardy marsh]

isnt ogrim the dung defender tho? so not actually missing

[coarse leaf]

||The last two tool statements I made are obviously satire in case you didnt know. but i actually mean my theory!||

[coarse leaf]

He leaves the kingdom after fighting White Defender five times

[coarse leaf]

I think. He is nowhere to be found after that

Maybe ogrim potentially gets hit with the acceptance phase of grief and ventures out despite his honor and especially his dead comrades (isma)

Would be cool to work with a character like that imo

Also more great knights lore since hornet can fuckin’ talk and ask stuff

[lost coyote]

silksong

[hardy marsh]

white defender is the dream version of ogrim at his peak

[coarse leaf]

And?

[hardy marsh]

how can they fight each other?

[coarse leaf]

I mean Ogrim HIMSELF, his actual self leaves after the dream battles

[lost coyote]

I dont think the HK lore is gonna be expanded in silksong, it's in a separate kingdom so why would the great knights of HALLOWNEST be involved in any way

[coarse leaf]

?????? Huh

[coarse leaf]

None of us can really say, none of us can know for sure except TC. Still fun to make these theories

[hardy marsh]

this

[hardy marsh]

this even

[coarse leaf]

After the PLAYER fights white defender

[lost coyote]

I dont think it's very likely that we'll get much HK content in general, maybe a few references but yeah as you said we don't know yet so it's all speculation

[hardy marsh]

ah

[coarse leaf]

My fault for not elaborating

[coarse leaf]

I think the only reference we may get aside from weavers returning, potential herrah mentions, and mr mushroom would be something related to the troupe since they appear in dead kingdoms, and Pharloom is indeed in an ailing state. Not any troupe content - just a few references, is all. I dont want grimm again.

Also, something related to the delicate flowers? I don’t know since we don’t know where Ze’mer came from

And finally, the Steel Assassins might have a tie-in to Hallownest in some sort of way but that’s a whole theory in of itsef

[digital mural]

Silksong!

[wheat sail]

in deez

🤣

[raven minnow]

wHers DeeZ

[wheat sail]

deez nuts

yeah

[mossy kestrel]

Guys any idea when silksong will come out? I don’t follow too Much reddit Twitter and these stuff

Yes thanks very funny

[wheat sail]

Nobody knows cause tc doesnt say anything

Maybe something gets revealed at the next direct (no 🤡

[uncut citrus]

Nobody probably including TC

[mossy kestrel]

Ty bros

[trim estuary]

[uncut citrus]

I DID IT

[uncut citrus]

ONLY TOOK ME ONE HOUR

[coarse leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/813857477535727626.png?v=1

[burnt topaz]

please hes been trying so hard

so many failed attempts

[uncut citrus]

Took me 24 emotes

Wait if we count the all grey one that makes 25

And 39 pics

[serene chasm]

You were too preoccupied on if you could that you did not stop to think if you should

[uncut citrus]

I definitely thought about it for 3,52 sec and decided NO COST TOO GREAT

[coarse leaf]

spider game

[serene chasm]

spider solitaire is quite fun

[proud vale]

uh thats alot of rows

[coarse leaf]

Iselda final boss.

[serene chasm]

turns out hornet stole from her shop and she is hunting her down

[coarse leaf]

I need help!

It seems that I have trapped myself in a pfp that cannot be undone!

I am nothing but a sad, gray limbo of nothingness…

[marsh ibex]

Why assume that ogrim wasn’t granted mind by PK, hmm?

lib

[coarse leaf]

I don’t think he was native to Hallownest - or if he was, he could have been an inhabitant prior to the Pale King’s arrival - therefore rendering him independent from PK’s beacon. I can’t think of definite proof that this is the case - there are a lot of leaking holes in the theory that can only work under specific requirements

I don’t know

Only great knight we definitely know wasn’t a native was Ze’mer

For this to work, Ogrim must have:
-A mind to think
-The willpower to actually leave the goddamn kingdom
-Good odds of finding Pharloom

In my opinion it would make sense if he has a mind, but my opinions about the matter are irrelevant

[brazen needle]

Is there technically any confirmation that dreyya is dead?

[shell yacht]

her corpse

[coarse leaf]

prove that she's not asleep

[brazen needle]

She could just be sleeping or somehting

[shell yacht]

no

[coarse leaf]

she fell asleep and all the mantis traitors kindly left her alone

[cerulean sable]

she kicked the bucket bro

[brazen needle]

Check her pulse

she doesnt look too dead

[shell yacht]

dead

[brazen needle]

If she died in battle wouldnt she have stab wounds or some shit

[shell yacht]

same as quirrel and pk

[brazen needle]

Quirrel technically isnt confirmed dead except for a single art file name, and that's not proof

He is dead but technically he could be alive

[shell yacht]

all his dialogue tells you hes about to die then he leaves his nail behind?

hes dead

[brazen needle]

He is dead but if i'm being a little shit I could say there's no proof

[shell yacht]

then youre just ignoring the game

[split tide]

It’s not as explicit as other deaths to be fair

Since every other dead character leaves a corpse behind

[shell yacht]

no they dont

dreamers zemer seer PK

[marsh ibex]

We see Pk’s corpse stupid

[split tide]

Zemer and seer are dead?

And dreamers are absorbed

[tawdry valley]

Zemer literally disintegrated in front of you.

[shell yacht]

then its gone

[marsh ibex]

wow just like cloth’s corpse

insane

[brazen needle]

pk did and zemer, the dreamers and seer actively turned to dust

[marsh ibex]

they die bro

[shell yacht]

wow its almost like Cloth also dies

[marsh ibex]

the whole reason the seals are gone is because they perished

fuckin hornet mourns her mom’s death

[tawdry valley]

Are y’all arguing over who died or not because you saw *Dryaa’s corpse and thought “what if she’s sleeping” 🥴

[shell yacht]

Drya but yes

hi

[marsh ibex]

no because you’re like “we don’t see PK’s corpse” when we clearly do stinky doodie brain

[charred pulsar]

I mean, what if she's sleeping like the knight sleeps in this bed

[marsh ibex]

fear

[tawdry valley]

Are you implying goodknight is a dead knight

[brazen needle]

to be fair that is in a dream but that really means nothing

[split tide]

Tecchically the dust particles are Zemer’s corpse I guess

[marsh ibex]

a dream that’s already confirmed to be the real white palace put there

[young saffron]

insanity

[shell yacht]

we see cloth die and get the same disapearing corpse as pk

[split tide]

We still see a corpse

[tawdry valley]

A dream of the place that was transported to the dream realm with the person who moved it there.

[marsh ibex]

corpses are pretty based

like damn

[split tide]

And maybe cloth just decayed or something

[marsh ibex]

they really decided to unaliven’t

[tawdry valley]

Bruh

[split tide]

Or the traitors dragged it off to nom on

I dunno, I’m not a mortician

[shell yacht]

[tawdry valley]

Or it’s a videogame

[split tide]

Consult an insect mortician for more accurate information

[marsh ibex]

False

[young saffron]

silksong would be like 40+ hours in content ryt? since hollow knight it self had 40 hours or 38 hours of content

[tawdry valley]

Just a theory

[marsh ibex]

a powdered theory

thanks for watching

[tawdry valley]

We have literally no idea how big the game is.
No we cannot divide development estimate/time to calculate how many bosses there are in the game.

[split tide]

Content hours are subjective too

It’s kind of a silly metric imo

[tawdry valley]

We don’t even know if they’re going to release to consoles on release

[young saffron]

when the dollar conversion is so high in your country, you have to always be sure your getting the most of your money for games :/

[brazen needle]

It will almost certainley be a lot bigger than hollow knight tho

[gilded adder]

They aren't. This was confirmed. Only PC and Switch at launch.

[split tide]

I mean people will have wildly different completion times on a first playthrough

Not to mention postgame/replayable content, which some people may like and others may not

[tawdry valley]

Oh?
I remember that leth convo if that’s what you mean, but much of his hesitation allegedly revolved around console generation

[gilded adder]

I'm directly referencing what they said when they first announced Silksong. It was detailed in the video on their youtube channel.

[brazen needle]

I think it is confirmed but I have no sources

[gilded adder]

And I think they mentioned it in the blogpost too.

[coarse leaf]

What if TC changed their minds and are working on ports for PlayStation and Xbox to be released on Day 1? Would be smart imo, especially since they can’t be rushed and won’t have to work on a port later down the line

[eager orbit]

we'll have to ask them after they announce silksong next week 🤡

[tawdry valley]

I know they could only confirm a PC+Switch thing, but given the time that’s passed and the previous conditions that have changed, I’m saying that’s no likely longer set in stone

[coarse leaf]

Also, the playstation and xbox fans wouldn’t have to wait longer nor have the opportunity to be spoiled

[tawdry valley]

This was always a positive though, and did not change their original decision.

[young saffron]

no clue
but they are mainly focusing on pc and switch cause thats why most of the sales came from yes?

[coarse leaf]

I believe what they told us was the bare minimum - they probably had no idea how much they should promise to us

But that’s just me

[gilded adder]

I guess. Though, I see very little reason to change the "only PC and Switch at launch" thing at this point.

if they want to release the game asap that is

[tawdry valley]

Games don’t avoid ports to save money. They make ports to make more money, and often even outsource that work

[tawdry valley]

Okay but they didn’t say “we’re only doing Pc and switch at launch,” they said “we can only guarantee for sure of and switch at launch, at minimum”

[coarse leaf]

I think TC likes having their games being more accessible to more audiences so I’m still sticking with my multiple consoles at launch theory

I think they should do whatever they can and not touch Silksong anymore after release aside from patches. No more content, nothing

Probably can get started on Fearless Fox

[tawdry valley]

I’m not saying they have a Ps5 port underway, just that their uncertainty for the future is dated at 3 years ago, and we are currently in that future.

[wheat sail]

Unless they polish it super hard they will still need to stick around to fix bugs

[gilded adder]

For reference, this is what they said in the blogpost: "Hollow Knight: Silksong will be available, at launch, on Windows, Mac, Linux & Nintendo Switch. More platforms may happen! Just remember, we’re 3 people, already working rather hard, so we haven’t committed to anything else just yet. We don’t wanna collapse before we get this massive bug kingdom ready for you."

[tawdry valley]

Yes but that’s again a choice not to overpromise

[coarse leaf]

Idea: Ari and Wilbo come up with ideas for FF while Jack Vine is in charge of patching bugs while Graig (or other testers) test the patches

[wheat sail]

What I meant

[tawdry valley]

Rather than a choice to focus exclusively on pc, switch, and mac

[coarse leaf]

Then Jack can return to game development when a new project is ready to be developed

[tawdry valley]

TLDR: they have confirmed the ports they will have on launch, not the ones they won’t.

If that makes sense

[coarse leaf]

So glad they confirmed switch, my PC died on me a while ago

[gilded adder]

True, but everything surrounding console ports has been talked about "post launch" and not "at launch." I see what you're saying and you are right but I'm just going off of what we have.

[tawdry valley]

Understandable, I didn’t actually know about the blogpost stuff, so the opinion/decision on TCs part isn’t as outdated as I’m arguing

[charred pulsar]

Sorry to hear GEF, a PC's death is sad

[coarse leaf]

My TF2 account cries in loneliness

[tawdry valley]

I have neither a switch or PC, using and old Mac, and my laptop has been bounced from shipping twice

At this rate I’ll graduate from university before I get a new laptop

[robust pecan]

I wish it was coming to ps5

[digital glen]

I played HK on PS4, but if the ps4 version of ss is just post launch, iam gonna have to play on my shitty notebook

[robust pecan]

don't want the low fps of switch, but also want to play on my couch

[tawdry valley]

What’s stopping you from using any platform on your couch

[robust pecan]

my pc is in another room

[coarse leaf]

Silksong will probably be cheap so I’ll buy several copies on several platforms

15 is an absolute steal, and that’s not even mentioning the occasional sales

Can’t wait for Ogrim in silksong!

[tawdry valley]

What is stopping you from moving your couch

[tribal schooner]

I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure the fps rate wouldn’t have that much of an effect on a game like hk or SS

At least not the difference between a PC or a switch

[tawdry valley]

It has the most effect in a game like HK

[still owl]

Playing between the two is a huge difference

[tawdry valley]

Beyond the standard application of fps, the game physics are literally influenced by fps.

[coarse leaf]

Imagine SS at 240 fps

[serene chasm]

glorious

[tawdry valley]

The game still screen tears, and performance still matters, but having a consistent framerate that suits your monitor is enough

[coarse leaf]

Imagine if Ari animates at 240 frames per second

[torpid fractal]

not gonna happen

[coarse leaf]

Key word: Imagine

[torpid fractal]

no

[coarse leaf]

Fair enough

[tawdry valley]

Fps only starts to really hurt you bad when playing competitively, and obviously higher is generally better

[digital glen]

PC players when Minesweeper isnt running at 180fps:

I still dont know how to play minesweeper

[torpid fractal]

there are people that are genuinly surprised when you tell them that 99% of films are filmed at 30 fps

[serene chasm]

look. competitive minesweeper requires high fps for precise clicks. One wrong move and its game over

I thought it was pretty standard knowledge that 24fps is the standard film frame rate

[torpid fractal]

might be

its somewhere around 30

[coarse leaf]

People tell me that Bloodborne plays in 30 fps even though I have never felt it

[opaque sigil]

30fps in third person games is pretty painless in my experience

[digital glen]

Theres this clip from vinesauce, wheres hes playing bloodborne, and talking about darksouls, and saying that one of the reasons hes not going to try because of the 30fps cap, and chat tells him that bloodborne also has 30fps limit

Iam very bad at noticing the difference between fps rates

[opaque sigil]

Yeah a smooth 30 is hard to notice (much more so than an inconsistent 30-60)

[serene chasm]

I find I notice if it drops. Say i play a game at high framerate and for some reason next time it was running at a lower one, that feels noticeable. Going up doesn't as much

Personally 60 should be the standard

[digital glen]

Has someone put hollow knight in those ia that "makes" the animation in 60fps?

[torpid fractal]

60 is standard

[digital glen]

Like those videos "Tom & Jerry at 60 fps" or "JoJo at 60 fps" i think that effect looks bad

[torpid fractal]

its not because its 60 fps its because ai was used to make it

[digital glen]

I know

[flint venture]

git gud

[fiery coral]

Maybe don't needlessly spam emotes 🥴

[flint venture]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[odd heron]

lol, how's content starvation going guys?

[steady raven]

The HK community is the only thing keeping the clown makeup industry alive

[worthy lichen]

current mood:

[odd heron]

[sweet bluff]

titanfall community

[worthy lichen]

team fortress 2 community

[digital glen]

You can say tf2 is awesome and it aply to bove games