sk-discussion

[silver oak]

yeah I'm excited for have a nice death

[coarse leaf]

Have a Nice Death is really cool, but it isn't going to release on Switch, so too bad for me

[silver oak]

[foggy heath]

any sus-song stuff?

[coarse leaf]

No

[silver oak]

you're on the HK server, using regular emotes is a sin

[hollow sedge]

🗿

[coarse leaf]

Imagine not using

[trim estuary]

Certified roguelike/lite moment

[gilded adder]

😂

[raw bolt]

[silver oak]

eh, I like some regular emotes actually

[coarse leaf]

[marsh ibex]

redditor

[hollow sedge]

elderc is the greatest emote on this server

[coarse leaf]

[silver oak]

😳 is better than

[high hedge]

Have some Reddit Gold

[gilded adder]

Petition to add ShroomPause

[raw bolt]

🤡

[hollow sedge]

[coarse leaf]

> 🥴

[marsh ibex]

no

[marsh ibex]

I will ban you

[trim estuary]

Can we ban this guy

[raw bolt]

Yes

[marsh ibex]

nocturne i heard was really good though

[coarse leaf]

But let's be honest, is the best emote of this server

[marsh ibex]

nope

ElderC no question

[silver oak]

is legitimately the greatest emote to ever exist

I'm being serious

[marsh ibex]

I think nocturne was tough as nails but really good

[marsh ibex]

no

No it’s not

[silver oak]

It's so versatile

[marsh ibex]

no

[marsh ibex]

It’s a mid tier emote

[silver oak]

you're a mid tier entle

[brittle garnet]

what's a top tier emote then?

[coarse leaf]

3DS was such a boring console tbh

[trim estuary]

All of the :regional_indicators

[gilded adder]

all the carmelita emotes are top tier

[high hedge]

But with such an expansive library

[silver oak]

why does this server have so many emotes that are all just "sad"

[olive bobcat]

But it's 3D, it's like the DS but cooler

[olive bobcat]

SS fans

[gilded adder]

is the best sad emote

[trim estuary]

[coarse leaf]

i almost forgot about this place

[coarse leaf]

This is still good tho

[marsh ibex]

Sadness is universal

[trim estuary]

Welcome back to heck

[modest night]

uh huh

[marsh ibex]

[coarse leaf]

Idk, the DS was more iconic

[marsh ibex]

Underrated emote

[modest night]

that emote is so cute

[marsh ibex]

thanks for calling me cute

[coarse leaf]

it's been a long two days

[high hedge]

That’s because the 3ds is an extension of that initial idea

[modest night]

can't believe joker is hornet in a blanket

[marsh ibex]

shit I doxxed myself

fuck

[olive bobcat]

It looks like Hornet in a big fancy cloak

[gilded adder]

Can't wait for more high quality Hornet emotes when Silksong drops.

[brittle garnet]

the best emotes are those which can express emotions the most accurately
and happens to express my emotion accurately a lot of the time

[marsh ibex]

No

[coarse leaf]

This one is a great emote

[silver oak]

[coarse leaf]

cryla is terrifying

Why those looks HD to me? What

[cyan tartan]

> and

[brittle garnet]

cryla is actually a pretty ehh emote, very hard to see what it is when used in a message

[silver oak]

oh wait I missed my favorite one

[coarse leaf]

rootcry and shadecry are top tier

[brittle garnet]

[modest night]

yeah mylau is much better

[coarse leaf]

Oh yeah, GrubU with eyes exists

[coarse leaf]

i have no idea what emotion this is trying to convey but same

[silver oak]

is top tier tho

[coarse leaf]

I still have that image saved

[silver oak]

That's something we can all agree on

[brittle garnet]

death

[coarse leaf]

Should I post it?

[silver oak]

Do you want to explode?

[modest night]

one day will be deleted, mark my words

[coarse leaf]

That's not going to happen

[modest night]

it is

[silver oak]

we still just have a primal aspid sprite as an emote?

[modest night]

you guys just need to make enough silksong emotes when the game releases

[surreal owl]

What is up silksong city?

[silver oak]

all the other sprite emotes have been removed

[modest night]

i don't make the rules the admins do

[marsh ibex]

Oh yeah that’s one of the first to go

[coarse leaf]

the sky HA

[cyan tartan]

Just use Great Slash on . Easy.

[charred pulsar]

[silver oak]

and that was the last we saw of it

[marsh ibex]

cringe take

[coarse leaf]

Simo loves

[coarse leaf]

That's why it's never going to be removed, mark my words

[charred pulsar]

Who wants sprite emotes again?

[silver oak]

is the only one that's survived

[coarse leaf]

HD grub?

4K grub

[coarse leaf]

[silver oak]

can you get stats on the amount of times people have used certain emotes?

[high hedge]

Pssst mods, what’s the vetting process for stickers, like of we draw some

[sharp juniper]

[high hedge]

*emotes

[silver oak]

why do we still have when exists

[high hedge]

Not always in a Cowboy mood

[silver oak]

how can you not be in a cowboy mood

[charred pulsar]

I don't think so? I might have a look and see if it's possible, but you can search in emote name and see results (but common names like grub will pick up other non-emote messages too)

[modest night]

tf

[high hedge]

I meant emotes, I forgot stickers were a whole other thing

[silver oak]

where is your pfp from?

I'm sold

[brittle garnet]

hmm

[sharp juniper]

ew why is it so low

[brittle garnet]

unfortunately this also picks up the word "zote"

[silver oak]

feelspkman

[modest night]

damn

[silver oak]

also lots of people use that one as a reaction

I account for 0.09% of all messages on this server

If this server had mee6, I wonder what place I would be in on the message leaderboards

[coarse leaf]

i account for 99.91%

[silver oak]

there's no one else on the server ig

[sterile sleet]

I account for 100% since there are only my alternate accounts here.

[silver oak]

how do you know you're not one of the alternates

[coarse leaf]

he's actually just an extension of me

[silver oak]

that's oddly specific

[cerulean sable]

i miss Slam Jam remixes

[marsh ibex]

I miss my wife

[marsh ibex]

tails

wait that comment implies tails is my wife

[marsh ibex]

*,tails

[silver oak]

tails, tails

[marsh ibex]

Yekane I’m not a furry

this is going into the joker cringe compilation isn’t it

[silver oak]

that exists?

[gilded adder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPHJJY8GhMY&ab_channel=postiekevk

[silver oak]

and if so where can I see it immediately

[marsh ibex]

It probably does

goddamn I forgot how much p1 music slapped

[cerulean sable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li8ZqVGzDXQ

Same, i love myself too

[marsh ibex]

I don’t

[silver oak]

self love is good

[gilded adder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwvA3gIw5Js&ab_channel=Swordy

[cerulean sable]

based take

[silver oak]

you or ttacco

[marsh ibex]

Me

I also don’t have a persona mashup

But I do have this

https://youtu.be/dNNdc80bOr8

[silver oak]

this is perfect for donkey kong december

[marsh ibex]

Wait

[radiant wraith]

This is perfect.

[silver oak]

Did you guys somehow lock the channel for everyone but me and mods

[gilded adder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF32DRg9opA

[silver oak]

I approve

[gilded adder]

I approve of you approving

[silver oak]

I... am not going to continue that

[gilded adder]

[silver oak]

I approve of your approval of my approving

BAM
Bet you didn't see that coming

[marsh ibex]

@turbid kite

[turbid kite]

hello

[silver oak]

you guys might as well just let me into mod chat because I'm the only person here

[turbid kite]

i have preparedMORE BREAD

[hollow terrace]

Share, in #staff-casual

[silver oak]

why do you hate me window

[mortal bluff]

Yeah, why do you hate me window

[silver oak]

What if I ate bread right now

[turbid kite]

isnt this staffchat smh

[silver oak]

What if I ate sock's bread

[turbid kite]

let me share my BREAD

you may have some bread

as a treat

[silver oak]

[turbid kite]

i mean its still raw right now

[silver oak]

it's like cookie dough

[turbid kite]

its really like a mass of olive oil

[wind rover]

I hope silksong is linear like metroid fusion, they already did a rly open world with the first one I wanna see something new

[cerulean sable]

rolled a NAT 17

yeah that Flamberge is gonna do some damage against you Sock

[turbid kite]

turn into me ash

what the fuck did i type

[silver oak]

HK was a formula that people love, why would they do a different formula for the sequel

[turbid kite]

turn me into ash tacco so i may scatter into the wind

[silver oak]

If they wanna make a linear game they probably wouldn't put it under the HK brand

[cerulean sable]

Rolled 15

You have now turned into ash

You cannot do anything because you are just ash

You have died, and your journey is over.

[turbid kite]

what about my bread

[silver oak]

/nick ash

[cerulean sable]

bro you asked to be turned into ash you didnt roll for a bread check

[turbid kite]

i need to bake it at 400 degrees farenheit for 25 minutes

this is my last wish before i scatter

[wind rover]

Because they already did it perfectly the first time

[cerulean sable]

too late bro u already dead

[turbid kite]

ok bake it for me

[silver oak]

can someone else do it

[cerulean sable]

bro 😳

[turbid kite]

can i perform necromancy so i can finish my bread

[silver oak]

I can do it
I am a Necromancer

[cerulean sable]

hey if it aint broke dont fix it, i just want more Hollow Knight tbh

[wind rover]

Im hoping silksong can be the metroid fusion to the first games super metroid

[cerulean sable]

HK with a bit more polish and extra features

[silver oak]

and bigger
and new

and more

[gilded adder]

That's arguable tbf. I think theres a lot to improve and besides they are adding a bunch of new stuff to the game already with the combat and various other mechanics

[turbid kite]

it would be fucked if we got fun new movement options in ss without an open world

[modest night]

yeah the very obvious point to improve is the charm balancing for example

[silver oak]

Would HK be considered an open world?

[modest night]

no

i don't think so

[cerulean sable]

semi-ish

[silver oak]

yeah that's what I was thinking too

[turbid kite]

as open of a world as a 2D platformer can be

[silver oak]

instead of dave there's an elevator to the top of the citadel

[turbid kite]

after all it occurs in. a hollow nest

[silver oak]

no, hallownest

[turbid kite]

keep talking and you will simply be mancer no flesh

technically churches are also hollow and hallowed

so basically hallownest is just a big church

[wind rover]

No thats "the hall of ness"

[turbid kite]

sans isnt even in silksong

[modest night]

you sure?

[silver oak]

sans mean without in latin
so you're right

[silver oak]

makes sense, considering pk was a god and all

[wind rover]

Actually ykno what? One thing could be improved for silksong, put benches.... In the same general area as bosses?

[silver oak]

but the contemplation

[turbid kite]

no you have to do an intense swinging-based platforming puzzle to get to the boss now

like getting to traitor lord but now worse

[silver oak]

and the swinging mechanics are horrible

[modest night]

smh imagine not teleporting to traitor lord

[turbid kite]

imagine using dreamgate instead of uselessly hoarding essence

cant be me

[silver oak]

The first time I actually had the idea of dreamgating at TL was the attempt I beat him

[turbid kite]

i only used dgate for hive knight after much agony

[coarse leaf]

https://youtu.be/au1dnGm_qvQ

YOOOOOO HORNETSONG UPDATES
(Boss fight , new music and animations)

[modest night]

are we actually making our own game

[wind rover]

I NEED TO SAVE UP TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE WHITE PALACE

[silver oak]

they've been posting occasional updates

[coarse leaf]

welp. i think. yep

[silver oak]

oh also this is silksong discussion sonia!

[cerulean sable]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0YyazmHAuu1j8wxSZXSPK4?si=088a608c98a846c3 this song is a Hollow Knight reference

that is all

[silver oak]

I win, you lose

well weren't the vessels cast into a pit of total darkness?

which is kinda the opposite of a sun

[cerulean sable]

im talking about THK => Rad

[silver oak]

well the son wasn't in the sun, it was the other way around

[modest night]

uh huh

[cerulean sable]

I CANT HEAR YOU

IM BUSY LISTENING TO EARTHMOVER

[modest night]

avoid the truth all you want ttacco

[silver oak]

My sister said that she listens to a band called "Neutral Milk Hotel"

[cerulean sable]

More than a symbolllll 😩
More than what I bargained for 🥺

[silver oak]

Which 100% sounds like it was made with a random word generator

[cerulean sable]

all i know is their album cover

with some woman with a cucumber slice for a head

[silver oak]

judging from the name, that sounds on brand

[hollow terrace]

I don’t question ttaco questionable albums names

[modest night]

tell your sister i don't like the band

[silver oak]

will do

[hollow terrace]

As my songs choices has questionable titles

[cerulean sable]

Neutral Milk Hotel more lke

[true vine]

Cody fry makes good songs

[cerulean sable]

Neutral MID Hotel

lmao gtte

[silver oak]

"hey a discord mod doesn't like your band"

[true vine]

"ok"

[silver oak]

or I could go "hey a girl doesn't like your band"

[modest night]

don't actually do it btw

[silver oak]

I wasn't planning on it

[modest night]

i would feel bad for your sister 🥴

[cerulean sable]

yeah id feel bad for his sister cuz she listens to awful music

[hollow terrace]

Now we’re backpedaling?

For shame

[silver oak]

If my home was full of skulls I would write a song about it too

[modest night]

it technically is, we all have a skull afterall

[hollow terrace]

Unless you’re a jellyfish

[silver oak]

Still, full implies more than 4

[modest night]

maybe you have a big family

and the guy had 3

[hollow terrace]

Or a hollow knight fan aimirite folks

[silver oak]

heh get it

[modest night]

no i don't

[hollow terrace]

They’re dumb

[silver oak]

cuz the abyss has skulls

[hollow terrace]

Oh that too

[silver oak]

wait you were thinking of something else

[hollow terrace]

There was no end with my setup

[silver oak]

just got some infection

get it, cuz people call the infection orange juice

funny hollow knight reference

[cerulean sable]

omg im so proud they grow up so fast 😭

aight thats the last HANL reference im making for the rest of the year

[modest night]

im glad you're proud ttacco

[silver oak]

we will be keeping track

you have 10 days

[cerulean sable]

i can take it

[modest night]

it's ok ttacco you can make a reference

[cerulean sable]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-angry-erect-spongebob-movie-gif-20382462

i hate tenor gifs

[hollow terrace]

I’m glad I can make references to my favorite albums collection

Especially in the next ten days

[modest night]

yeah lmao like who wouldn't do that

[hollow terrace]

A chump that’s who

Especially who wears fingerless gloves in insurgency sandstorm

[silver oak]

I can guarantee none of you have heard of my favorite album

[cerulean sable]

In Rainbows by Radiohead

[silver oak]

well
99% sure

[modest night]

what is it?

[grim forge]

What is jt

[silver oak]

Heart of Android by Camellia

[grim forge]

Yep I've not heard ut

[cerulean sable]

phew almost made a reference

[modest night]

isn't camellia the osu music guy

[silver oak]

yup

he has a popular song in basically every popular rhythm game

[modest night]

i don't have a favorite album i think

[cerulean sable]

Do you want one 👀

[modest night]

yeah sure ttacco tell me what's your favorite album?

[silver oak]

that sounds like a threat

[cerulean sable]

obviously In Rainbows duhhh

[modest night]

uh huh

[cerulean sable]

were you expecting something the rhymed with CeathDonsciousness

[modest night]

don't you like a song that's called soildisplacer?

or something like that

[grim forge]

Soil displacer

[cerulean sable]

ehh i prefer HemoRain but thats just me

[silver oak]

that sounds like a reference

[cerulean sable]

what what i didnt do a referecen wtf get off my back

[modest night]

we're watching

[cerulean sable]

yeah yeah keep talking

[silver oak]

and nobody explodes

[silver oak]

hi spongebob

[coarse leaf]

hello

I found this website and its awsome

[silver oak]

you're not spongebob

[hollow sedge]

this is the most silksong we'll get this year

[coarse leaf]

i know.

[modest night]

bruh clicking no redirects you to a rickroll video

[silver oak]

perfect

can you get it to swear

[coarse leaf]

maybe.

[coarse leaf]

Do it yourself

[silver oak]

the link is gone

[serene chasm]

swearing. thought we should go to off topic

[coarse leaf]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[silver oak]

thanks spongebob

[silver oak]

we've been off topic for a while

[serene chasm]

true

[modest night]

yeah don't bother changing channels it's fine

[true vine]

this channel is always off topic

[silver oak]

most of the time

[wind oak]

probs because of how little info we have right now

[silver oak]

Ehhh, it’s just kinda the nature of people online

[wind oak]

i know tc is working hard but it feels like waiting for a cup to fill with water just from ice

[silver oak]

#hk-discussion is also often off topic

[cerulean sable]

i think silksong will benefit greatly with the inclusion of a search and destroy game mode

[silver oak]

CtF in silksong

[wind oak]

nah how about a mode thats just guns

cus that would make sense

[silver oak]

TTacco’s working on that one

[true vine]

honestly they should have just said "silksong won't be at tga" to prevent the uproar

[silver oak]

Or he will be

[cerulean sable]

again depends on her toolset

[true vine]

crowsworn

[cerulean sable]

if its not ass to pain with ill consider making it

[true vine]

wait ttaco did you make the gun mod

[cerulean sable]

https://github.com/TTacco/Hollow-Point nope

[wind oak]

honestly i would accept news of "no stop asking we wont announce it" whenever a nintendo direct/big game based thing happens so we dont get our hopes up. granted that might backfire

[cerulean sable]

never heard of this guy before, heard hes an asshole

[coarse leaf]

you mean sponge bob?

[cerulean sable]

yrue

[silver oak]

Never heard of him
Heard he’s an asshole

Checks out

[modest night]

it's sad nobody knows ttacco made the gun mod while it's like the most popular mod

smh think about all the donations you could have gotten ttacco 😔

[silver oak]

monetize silk point and you could be as rich as Team Cherry

[modest night]

ttacco deserves the money for being funny

[cerulean sable]

no i actually think in its own, that is my reward

and besides at most youll get 1 dollar per year in donation

[modest night]

bro have you seen gradow

[silver oak]

accept that you're famous

[cerulean sable]

yeah its from gradow that i heard someone donated him 1 dollar for the installer

[silver oak]

rusty made a video about it and everything

[cerulean sable]

it really shouldnt have but thats just me

[modest night]

gradow got people donated him 20$ tho

[cerulean sable]

thats like 1 20 bro

which is still money

but effort

and imagine wasting your money to some shitpost

[modest night]

[cerulean sable]

cant be me

[modest night]

accept that your mod is good

[cerulean sable]

no

[modest night]

yes

[cerulean sable]

i refuse

[silver oak]

you spent like a year on it

[modest night]

i refuse your refusal

[cerulean sable]

around 8 months in tottal

quake

[silver oak]

you changed all the charms

[cerulean sable]

*barely

[modest night]

bitch

[silver oak]

that sounds like good to me

[modest night]

hollowpoint is a good and fun mod

[cerulean sable]

cease

it was a shitpost that got out of control for some goddamn reason imo

[silver oak]

I agree
Even though I haven't played it

[modest night]

a shitpost can be fun

and good

[cerulean sable]

a shitpost is still a shitpost, my dad told me that

[modest night]

your dad is not a gamer

[hollow terrace]

Capitalize on your success

[silver oak]

that's what I'm saying

[hollow terrace]

make hornet gun mod 2 with paid DLC!!!

[silver oak]

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

[cerulean sable]

bro monetary means there is a resemblance of responsibility

and ifh responsibility

so lame

[modest night]

yeah but money is good tho

[serene chasm]

Make a bunch of skins for the gun as well

[hollow terrace]

Coward!!!

[modest night]

embrace capitalism

make gun lootboxes

[silver oak]

100,000 dollar blue skin

[serene chasm]

the kids love lootboxes

[silver oak]

it's like gambling, in your own home!

[cerulean sable]

ngl the gun skins were the most jury rigged shit ive done because i dont know art + my artist was busy for the entirety of it

[silver oak]

wait you actually made skins?

[cerulean sable]

the gun variations

[silver oak]

oh like shotgun, machine gun, etc

[modest night]

just ask mebi he'll make them in a day

[cerulean sable]

ie using Heavy Blow turns it into a bolt action rifle, so i had to change the sprite into such

Chroma already said hes offering so 😎

[silver oak]

you actually made heavy blow good?

[cerulean sable]

oh no imo the gun itself is meh

[modest night]

ttacco make hornet have a sniper rifle

[cerulean sable]

the only thing it has it going for is the damage and the natural piercing

[silver oak]

what's your favorite gun from hollow point

[cerulean sable]

ive already decided with a lever action soul rifle ok

uhhh probs the LMG

pros - it was fun to shoot a lot
cons - shooting a lot is very imbalanced
so i had to whack it with the nerf stick here and there

[silver oak]

see? you spent time balancing it

[cerulean sable]

not enough time* balancing it 😎

[silver oak]

deep down, you think it's good

[modest night]

ttacco i swear i'll make you say your mod is good

even if i have to use brute force for it

[serene chasm]

You should be proud of the things you make. Even if they're silly

[silver oak]

we can use a bot

[shell yacht]

hey i cant heal your mod broke my game

[silver oak]

don't do this water

we were so close

[cerulean sable]

i mean jokes aside im proud of it as a sheer coding exercise and i find it funny when i get DMs talking about why this charm is lackluster due to the +33 soul factor etc etc

and i find it funny when peeps do legitimately enjoy, i just feel bad for the other modding mods back then getting bombarded with questions and i was kinda in the position that i was done with updating it

[modest night]

ttacco it's not your fault people can't read a readme

[cerulean sable]

ehh i still feel like i shouldve put the font to 32

[modest night]

🥴

[cerulean sable]

maybe THEN they wouldve seen it

[silver oak]

it's safe to assume that most people are stupid

[shell yacht]

look at how many idiots got hacked and banned today, its not your end ttaco lmao

smoothbrains

[modest night]

water spitting facts

[hollow terrace]

Ttaco what does the readme do, my mod still isn’t working

Like was it an application to run?

[cerulean sable]

i dunno i STILL feel like im responsible for it, i tend to feel guilty cuz like
it kinda became my responsibility to fix it but like man, i just wanted to graduate and i still had a thesis, so i went out and rushed the release at that point\

[silver oak]

you can always release a post-release patch

[hollow terrace]

But that’s admitting defeat

[cerulean sable]

well now i cant cuzzzzzz i have work now i am not in the mood except to use my past time to play 🥺

[hollow terrace]

And we’re not French

[cerulean sable]

ture\

[silver oak]

speaking of which, I should play some more hollow knight

still chasing that last achievement

[cerulean sable]

i still havent gotten PoH

effort

[modest night]

What does that mean window

[analog lily]

Wait Ttaco's making a mod?
cool though expect it to have a bunch of random stuff that breaks the game

[silver oak]

he already did

[cerulean sable]

i already made one bro

[modest night]

Ttacco made hollowpoint

[analog lily]

oh
what does the mod do?

[silver oak]

hollow knight + gun

[modest night]

Its the gun mod

[hollow terrace]

Don’t worry guys, love you all

[cerulean sable]

I love you too shark person

[silver oak]

christmas themed shark person

[shell yacht]

stop you from healing

[cerulean sable]

shut that was a feature

[analog lily]

i don't think that's intentional if it's the gun mod
unless it is then idk

[serene chasm]

healing is for scrubs anyways

[silver oak]

randomized healing

[modest night]

Ttacco

[analog lily]

what how does that work

[modest night]

ttacco youre cool i like your humour and gun mod is good

[silver oak]

the randomizer mod allows you to make healing an item you pick up in the world

[cerulean sable]

u

[silver oak]

w

[hollow terrace]

Ttaco you seem like you need a smack from reality

[analog lily]

that's the randomizer yeah
but i though we were talking about the gun mod
unless randomer IS the gun mod

[silver oak]

no I was just making a joke

[hollow terrace]

And here it is, I think your gun mod was pretty neat

[analog lily]

ah
wait now i think about it randomizer healing isn't a bad idea

[shell turret]

I wonder if there will be a lava enemy

[silver oak]

wydm

like an enemy made of lava?

[analog lily]

you just reminded me is was in #sk-discussion
this place really gets off topic a lot

[serene chasm]

being off topic is being on topic

[silver oak]

off topic is the new on topic

[analog lily]

so this is #ss-offtopic then?

[shell turret]

Y E S

[brazen needle]

any news?

[silver oak]

nope

[shell turret]

I wish

[silver oak]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[analog lily]

eer what's that command that tells you to go to annoucments

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[serene chasm]

?sspsa

[brazen needle]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[silver oak]

🐌

[analog lily]

wait it's a ? mark what

[brazen needle]

just checking because there was nothing in the announcements about the geforce leak

[silver oak]

yeah cuz it wasn't news

[analog lily]

yeah cause it's a leak
not anything important and is most likely false

[brazen needle]

ye but its still something i would like to know

[analog lily]

well i mean youtube exists

[brazen needle]

true

[analog lily]

hmm maybe, a lava enemy of sorts could be in the forest of bones
not sure how it could be bug related though

[silver oak]

who knows, we got mushrooms and jellyfish in HK

fucking black ghosts

[analog lily]

yeah, and mushroom are actually fungi so i'm still confused about that

and jellyfish are even weirder

[shell turret]

jelly boss sucks anal pipe

[brazen needle]

uumuu?

[analog lily]

first part i agree
Second part what the hell did you just say

[shell turret]

its the more colorful way to say asshole

[analog lily]

colourful

[cerulean sable]

theres hould be an in game band

for silksong

[silver oak]

honestly a cool idea

could play at the tavern

[cerulean sable]

The Beetles

[silver oak]

un-pun the pun

but do we really know what ingame music of the HK universe sounds like?

[cerulean sable]

i honestly wish for a Tavern scene, of Hornet busting inside the tavern, music stops and everyone stares at her as you see random wanted sign posters with your face on it

violin and harp tbh

[silver oak]

ig the only example is the gramophones at he QG bench and on the trams

[late kelp]

we also have the singer ghost

[silver oak]

oh yeah I forgot about marrisa

[serene chasm]

I want some tavern minigame

[silver oak]

gwent

[fiery coral]

Five-finger fillet

[serene chasm]

Hornet gets a crippling gambling addiction

[hollow sedge]

battle royale mode

[serene chasm]

100 Hornets enter Pharloom. Only one will make it to the top

[hollow sedge]

team cherry take notes

this needs to happen

[cerulean sable]

Create your song with NFTools, the new exciting NFTs for creating unique tools

Hunter your captors with these tools, now coming to Silksong

[fallow rock]

https://tenor.com/view/nft-gif-23756506

taco when he goes to the #art-discussion

[silver oak]

I think I've sent 0 messages in #art-discussion

[fringe pulsar]

Goodnight

[fallow rock]

well send one there now

[silver oak]

no

[fallow rock]

why

[high hedge]

Is it still art if it’s made by an algorithm?

[silver oak]

no low effort stuff allowed

[fallow rock]

yes and no like #hk-meme when they make a new femboy maid

[high hedge]

One day I might look at another channel besides ss-discussion or announcements

[silver oak]

honestly I should probably just be an #hk-general regular

it's the most "anything-goes" channel

[young saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-hollow-knight-spunchbob-indie-world-indie-game-gif-24146247

[gilded adder]

But maybe, just maybe, there will be Silksong news in our hearts?

[silver oak]

the silksong news was in our hearts the whole time

[little tendon]

Just don’t get your hopes up and you won’t be disappointed

[young saffron]

I never had my hopes up

after TGA i had 0 hopes ...

[silver oak]

that's what you tell yourself

[young saffron]

No fr, I legit had 0 hopes

unlike for tga which I had high hope

only date I believe in is 2022 feb

[gilded adder]

Only date I believe in is the one I'm eating rn

[little tendon]

Only date I believe in is 2022, no specific month

[silver oak]

dates are yummy

[young saffron]

ayo share

[young saffron]

I find them yum but the fact they look like cockroaches is unappeitzing

[gilded adder]

Sorry, I finished it.

[young saffron]

yes ik its childish to think like that I just rly hate cockroaches

[silver oak]

regurgitate it

[little tendon]

But then it won’t be as good

[silver oak]

says you

[little tendon]

[young saffron]

[gilded adder]

I'm eating cashews right now. I love cashews.

[young saffron]

do yall think silksong will have pets?

[young saffron]

same!

[little tendon]

Hornet strikes me as a “I work alone” type of person

[young saffron]

almonds are good too esp salted

[little tendon]

But we’ll see, idk how they’d implement a pet system

[young saffron]

not like pets which provide benefits, just cosmetics :O

[gilded adder]

Chocolate covered almonds are good.

[little tendon]

That’s a long shot, to be fair

[silver oak]

my favorite nuts are pistachios probably

[hollow sedge]

maybe something similar to grimmchild

[little tendon]

Agreed

[young saffron]

true

[young saffron]

yes please

[gilded adder]

Pistachios are great.

[hollow sedge]

i cant believe were gonna go a year without news

God made me a hollow knight fan to early

[young saffron]

2 years*

[silver oak]

what

[gilded adder]

Technically it's been a year because Edge was last year.

[hollow sedge]

no we had edge last year

[young saffron]

iirc the edge blog postdidnt rly reveal any info about silksong :l (to my knowledge, correct me if im wrong.)

[gilded adder]

It revealed a lot

[silver oak]

um
it actually revealed a shit ton

[hollow sedge]

it revealed a good amount, no full on gameplay though

[young saffron]

how so? gameplay wise or?

[silver oak]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qUvmKG32P1PwAvHmO49C-1tpgjN0Ka13abu7lgX-Zs0

[gilded adder]

Gameplay mechanics, how some of the world works and functions, enemy behavior, how the beginning of the game works, etc.

[hasty sonnet]

Christmas coming
where is tc

[serene chasm]

In australia

[hollow sedge]

taking a holiday break probably

[silver oak]

in my stomach

[young saffron]

But was that new mechanics or just elaborating mechanics revealed in the trailer?

[silver oak]

I ate them

[gilded adder]

I mean, either way it's new information.

[hasty sonnet]

[young saffron]

true true

[hollow sedge]

we COULD still get a holiday sign off, at this point i doubt it

only a few days till christmas

[young saffron]

yea....

[serene chasm]

We wont

[hollow sedge]

[young saffron]

wow never knew edge had this much info on silksong
ty who ever sent that google doc

[serene chasm]

Its been in the pins this whole time

[silver oak]

yeah that was me but it really wasn't that hard

[hollow sedge]

theres still a decent amount of people who arent aware of Edge and the riddles, mostly casual fans

[serene chasm]

filthy casuals. they need to git gud at finding info

[silver oak]

[young saffron]

I knew about the riddles but completely forgot about edge magazine.

[ocean mulch]

Imagine not being a professional fan

The embarrassment I would feel-

[cerulean sable]

imagine... dragons

[surreal crown]

no

[silver oak]

what are dragons

[ember copper]

silksoon™️

[serene chasm]

I was just rereading the Edge article. And it sounds like enemies will be able to set traps to try to confound Hornet. I wonder how that will work. Will it just be a one time thing, and once you know where they are thats it, or will it be randomized, and everytime you enter an area, you will have to stay on your toes

[ember copper]

if its going to be like that
i feel so bad for any speedrunners early on

[ocean mulch]

I wonder how the playmaker code looks for advanced silksong ai lmao

[cerulean sable]

what if they phaseout FSMs overall for AI

[ocean mulch]

FSMs?

[serene chasm]

its possible they arent using playmaker since they have jack

[cerulean sable]

finite states machines, playmaker is the company that created a way to integrate FSMs into the game (which is the AI)

[ocean mulch]

Yeah but I don't think they would bin the convenience of making enemies themselves right after they brainstorm

Especially since they can reuse stuff from hollow knight

[cerulean sable]

FSM is general is just ComSci thing where you have "states" that you transition to depending on what state you are and whats happening

ie Searching state, if you find an enemy > go to "chase" state
if during chase state and theres no enemy for 10 seconds > search state

etc

[ocean mulch]

I know what a finite state machine is I just never thought about the acronym

[cerulean sable]

aight aight

ye ye i didnt either at first

i learned about PlayMaker FSMs first before we encountered finite states so i thought Playmaker invented FSMs 🥴

[ocean mulch]

It's so funny how they did the least actual coding they could to make Hollow Knight and then jack had to clean up the mess for switch...

[cerulean sable]

for real

the health was FSM back then

[ocean mulch]

Oh god

[cerulean sable]

i shit you not

Gradow had problems making his mods back then because of it

[still owl]

Some mighty huge logic maps then. Bigger than Pure Vessel

[ocean mulch]

And stencyl is literally scratch but better

[cerulean sable]

so theres a hit state which does damage and they have the main state iirc that has health

multiply that to EVERY enemy and yeah

[ocean mulch]

Physical pain

[atomic sparrow]

Shal why you up so late

[still owl]

Wasn’t just about everything state machines in the beginning? Or at least most of the major stuff

[still owl]

it’s 9:00.

[ocean mulch]

Good thing our pal jack exists to save the day

Imagine them making a state machine for Shakra rings

Oh the horror

[serene chasm]

Jack in the unsung hero of SS

[cerulean sable]

at least after GM they overhauled health to use an EnemyHealthManager component which they just attach to enemies

so all you have to do is badabing badaboom
HealthManager hm = aspid1.GetComponent<HealthManager>();
hm.Hit(5); // does 5 damage on the enemy

[ocean mulch]

We sing about jack all day

[cerulean sable]

way easier to learn compared to FSMs

[still owl]

Well, hopefully Jack has taken a good chunk of control when it comes to the code then, rather than William half hazardously mashing states together making the already annoying to mod unity, that much more difficult to work with

[ocean mulch]

I'm glad William is just game designer

[heady iron]

HutongGames is the company you absolute buffoon

you complete knuckle scraper

[still owl]

I think you’re lost

[cerulean sable]

oh fuckl

yeah i remember it was HutongGames

[atomic sparrow]

?

[ocean mulch]

A tank

[atomic sparrow]

we talking about this Jack, right ?

[cerulean sable]

look j i havent coded the garbage for like 50 years i barely remember the imports

[ocean mulch]

Hollowpoint ptsd

[cerulean sable]

you kids are all like "Silknever, Milksong, Silksong isnt real" yada yada bs

back in our days we just said "FSMs bad" as our overused joke

[still owl]

You act like it’s still not used

[cerulean sable]

well youre not wrong

[pulsar trout]

buggy game

[cerulean sable]

hehe bugs

[silver oak]

Bugs get it

Because Hollow knight

[cerulean sable]

i want my

Bug Fables x Hollow Knight fighting game

i will main Crisbee

[still owl]

Capcom vs Marvel style

Though I think bugfables cast is at a significant disadvantage since they have to wait for their turn to attack. HK characters just go buck wild on them

[cerulean sable]

well its a fighting game so anything goes

but unfortunately it will never ehappen because TC hates crossovers

hell only the knight didnt get a playable character in Dead Cells

and that was Dead Cells

[silver oak]

I’ll main iselda, I’ll beat you up

[fiery coral]

did they just ignore the Fall Guys dev entirely

[cerulean sable]

iselda scrub

yeah

[fiery coral]

...interesting

wait not interesting

strange, rather 🥴

[still owl]

Props to them though for being restrictive with the IP. Somewhat admirable

[cerulean sable]

https://youtu.be/4bWwRv9TejU?t=1192

[still owl]

Ari…waiting for that art book man

[timid urchin]

hey guys new here

and wow silksong real

[silver oak]

Yes

[atomic sparrow]

my man restricting art from the public

[silver oak]

Indeed it is real

[timid urchin]

did someone say ART

i make that

[silver oak]

There’s an #art-discussion if you want

[timid urchin]

[serene chasm]

I agree. I get why game companies do it. But I cant help but roll my eyes when I see stuff like the Shovel Knight Arby kids meals

[hollow sedge]

they got shovel knight arby kid meals ?

i wouldnt mind seeing hollow knight having some animated shorts

or comics

[serene chasm]

I think that would be cool.

I do hope we get a new comic for SS. The Quirrel one was so cool

[pine plover]

Do you think the combat will need a mouse, hornet seems to go in all sorts of angles?

Maybe attacks lock to enemies

[serene chasm]

no. the game is coming to switch. A controller will work fine.

[cerulean sable]

Silksong Happy Meal toys includes a killable Sherma plush

[silver oak]

Can you only kill him once or is it reusable

[cerulean sable]

includes a nail replica you can stab her with and the toy would make a noise

like a voodoo doll

[serene chasm]

Ill take your entire stock!

[frank sparrow]

ss discussion doings its usual murder sherma talk lovely

[serene chasm]

Its the biggest thing Im looking forward to in SS

[versed pollen]

It's not good enough, I need the real thing

[cerulean sable]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GSlEti_ffhE

[cerulean sable]

same

[full rune]

these guys ripped off of HK wtf

[torpid nymph]

Ooo music
Wait didn’t they say that Chris legit got an orchestra to record the SS soundtrack?

[coarse leaf]

what genre is silksong going to be

[serene chasm]

awesome

[fiery coral]

abstract non-Euclidean puzzler

[coarse leaf]

I hope its a turn based MMORPG horror FPS dating simulator clicker

or else im not buying

[fiery coral]

I see no difference

[ocean mulch]

Classical maybe some baroque

Going off of HK

[coarse leaf]

i will unironically pay 100$ to play a TBMMORPGHFPSDSC

[vestal wagon]

Nah, definitely an open world world platform fighter bejeweled-like.

[ocean mulch]

Bejeweled like

[vestal wagon]

Idfk match 3 game

[coarse leaf]

the ultimate genre: ANEPTBMMORPGHFPSDSCOWPFBL

abstract non-Euclidean puzzler turn based MMORPG horror FPS dating simulator clicker open world platform fighter bejeweled-like

[ocean mulch]

Those games are called puzzle games and I want to choke the person who named them so

Puzzle

[coarse leaf]

you can't convince me that a better genre exists

its got something for every gamer out there

[fiery coral]

it's so annoying right

[coarse leaf]

why are all the mods infectedf

[vestal wagon]

No they aren't. A puzzle game is fucking uhhh... hmmm. I guess a lot of games have puzzles in them. Platformers kind of. Celeste at times. Zelda.

[fiery coral]

puzzle purists

[vestal wagon]

Not those though

[coarse leaf]

what good indie game while waiting for silksong

[fiery coral]

Manifold Garden

Outer Wilds

[ocean mulch]

[fiery coral]

Fez

Return of the Obra Dinn

[ocean mulch]

I can't even look for an actual puzzle game for mobile it's all just the mindless matching games and who knows what

[fiery coral]

Untitled Goose Game is pretty good too I've heard

but I never played it so

[ocean mulch]

It's great

[fiery coral]

honk

[coarse leaf]

anyone have the feeling of being afraid that the game you ordered is shit

[vestal wagon]

Heard of a game called solar... something

[ocean mulch]

honk

[coarse leaf]

even when like 12 different sources tell you its one of the best games of the decade

[cerulean sable]

thats why i only buy games that are 1 year old now

[fiery coral]

Superliminal was good too

[vestal wagon]

Oh yea

Solar ash

Was that any good?

[ocean mulch]

Ask relyea

[fiery coral]

and of course Baba is You :)

Solar Ash I've never played or heard of

[frank sparrow]

I think Solar Ash is fun

[fiery coral]

discordium no shoot

[frank sparrow]

[onyx harness]

I heard it was pretty fun

[vestal wagon]

I've only played 1 truly shit game. Most I've played have been mid at worst.

Fallout 4

[serene chasm]

Fallout 4 was pretty bad, though I will say you are lucky if FO4 is the shittiest game youve played

[glossy jackal]

Dead cells if you haven't played it

[vestal wagon]

It was free too. PS plus

[coarse leaf]

ive heard dead cells is brutal

[fiery coral]

Ooh, Hades

pretty good

[coarse leaf]

fun story because i actually ordered that

[serene chasm]

FO4 was the first Bethsoft game I never finished, and not because I got distracted

[coarse leaf]

that was the game i was talking about

[onyx harness]

Outer Wilds

[fiery coral]

Hades is good don't worry

[glossy jackal]

it's combat system is awesome, leagues above most metroidvanias

[coarse leaf]

actually genuinely worried its not gonna be good

even when like literally everyone has been screaming in my face that its a 10/10 game for like a year now

im looking for stuff to play after i beat it

[vestal wagon]

Actually Vampyr was pretty bad too. Basically bloodborne but with a morality mechanic. Devs have potential to make alot better with a similar formula though.

They made life is strange apparantly so they can venture into other territory.

[onyx harness]

Hades was great, not one of my favorites though

[coarse leaf]

Persona 5 has a bad memory within me

because i somehow softlocked myself in one of the levels

about 60 hours into the game

[vestal wagon]

I didn't really softlock but I fucked up pokemon yellow

[onyx harness]

Anyways, you guys should play Outer Wilds

[serene chasm]

agreed

play it or ill cry

[onyx harness]

I will also cry

[coarse leaf]

better start crying then racoon boy

[serene chasm]

[onyx harness]

[serene chasm]

In all seriousness. Play Outer Wilds.
Also Winter sale starts tomorrow, so its a great time to pick it up

[onyx harness]

Yeah, Outer Wilds is the best game I have ever played

[fiery coral]

Outer Wilds and the DLC too

[onyx harness]

Yup, the DLC was also amazing

[warm bone]

outer wilds dlc is goty 2021

tied with elden ring cnt

[serene chasm]

2021 must have really sucked for game releases

[hollow sedge]

forgot about the winter sale, gonna pick up a few games to play on winter break

hopefully silksong goes on sale

[serene chasm]

But yeah. The OWDLC was quite the experience.

[stoic thistle]

Yes.

[pliant jackal]

Can we buy SS from winter sale?

.. in 2023?

[warm bone]

it was like this for me

[onyx harness]

Yeah, that seems accurate

[serene chasm]

I remember when the game first came out, and it was getting lots of great reviews, and I thought. Looks fun, but its probably not that great. Man I was wrong

[warm bone]

I can not be more grateful for how nobody spoiled it for me, going in unspoiled was incredible

I did not even know you went in space when I bought it

I knew literally nothing

[onyx harness]

I only knew a small amount about it, sad I couldn't go in completely blind but at least I played it

[serene chasm]

Oh shit. I knew about the space thing, but that was pretty much it. I played it a year after it came out, so there wasnt many spoilers about, and I probably forgot most that I did hear

someone explain this bullshit?

[onyx harness]

Big Sadge

[warm bone]

literally rated lower than fortnite

[hollow sedge]

85 is pretty good still

[sacred stratus]

How much HK got in metacritic?

[serene chasm]

87

[warm bone]

game reviewers have a flawed outlook on games, as they view playing games as a job rather than something to enjoy

[sacred stratus]

Huh?

Only 89?

[hollow sedge]

hollow knight on switch is 90, PC is 87

i am going to assume that silksong will be in the 88-95 range

[sacred stratus]

Let me guess: Fortnite got a 97 or something

Makes me sick

[hollow sedge]

no, fortnite on PC is 81

[sacred stratus]

The good ending

[warm bone]

oh, must've been thinking of ign then

yup

[olive bobcat]

Me with my 3 full Omori runs

[ocean mulch]

Who listens to IGN

[sacred stratus]

Didn’t play outer wilds but heard it’s good

[onyx harness]

IGN kinda sucks

[hollow sedge]

rip, pretty sure IGN has like 30 different reviewers

[warm bone]

IGN is stinky

[sacred stratus]

Not kinda they actually suck

[serene chasm]

Giantbomb gave Outer Wilds GOTY. Theyre cool

[onyx harness]

It is really good

[sacred stratus]

No shit

[warm bone]

you should, its mine and many's favorite game of all time

[ocean mulch]

What's outer wilds about

[analog forge]

I mean fortnites score isnt exactly unwarranted, it literally become a worldwide sensation

[warm bone]

space guy

[onyx harness]

Space exploration game

[olive bobcat]

Too much water moment

[cosmic widget]

Literally the overjustification effect

[sacred stratus]

Becoming a world wide sensation is not that hard when you have 11yo

[analog forge]

Basically, your exploring a solar system time loop.

[onyx harness]

But it doesn't deserve a higher score than Outer Wilds

[onyx harness]

Don't spoil it

[ocean mulch]

Fortnite isn't a game anymore just a money maker

[hollow sedge]

comparing scores might be the dumbest thing in existence, who cares lmao

[sacred stratus]

PS fanboys

[hollow sedge]

everyone has their own ratings

[analog forge]

Thats not a spoiler, its the central premise

[ocean mulch]

Sounds interesting

[serene chasm]

It is

[warm bone]

it's alright

[sacred stratus]

I think I’ll change my title to February faction bcs I’m losing faith in December division

[onyx harness]

It is better when you don't know anything, it isn't a major spoiler though

[analog forge]

February fanatic

[hollow sedge]

wut

[hollow sedge]

join us

[heady jolt]

rip hk cancelled

[analog forge]

Because it was canceled on the wii-u, since the switch happened

[ocean mulch]

That was the original stretch goal on Kickstarter but they changed it to switch

[warm bone]

febuary fartsniffers

[hollow sedge]

the december division is a lost cause they are fighting over nothing

[heady jolt]

honestly idc anymore

[warm bone]

yeah, nothing was as impactful as banding around a specific date

[ocean mulch]

I think the Decade Dinkelbergs will win over everyone

[analog forge]

December division isnt out of the fight yet

[heady jolt]

the dsn guys video on the issue really put things into perspective

[ocean mulch]

December isn't a date

[warm bone]

yeah, I'm unbeatable, unstoppable

[hollow sedge]

its inevitable

[warm bone]

that's the point, what I was saying

[analog forge]

theres always a chance of and edge scenario

[serene chasm]

We are. There isnt going to be anything.

[hollow sedge]

there will be no news in december, february sounds better

[olive bobcat]

C'mon guys how did you miss it

[analog forge]

Inb4 january

[ocean mulch]

January 1rd

[heady jolt]

this is like the 10th time I've seen this here lmao

[ocean mulch]

Everyone get ready for news on January fird

[ocean mulch]

Ara made a video?

[heady jolt]

https://youtu.be/lHR8OAGa_0o

[ocean mulch]

That's the recap

[warm bone]

wtf is recap

never heard of them

[silver oak]

They featured on DSN once

The meta-ness grows

[cunning lynx]

We haven't announce of announce news in December, it's so sad.

[warm bone]

well we know they are devoting their time to making the game, or taking a break

both are better imo than making a blogpost

[wary timber]

not really

not when making a blogpost takes 5 minutes max

that’s if they want to add screenshots

[idle brook]

Blog post would take way longer

[wary timber]

are you a slow typer fam

[warm bone]

a lot of fans significantly underestimate the amount of time to make a blogpost

[charred pulsar]

this

[warm bone]

oh hi [YELLOW NAME]

[charred pulsar]

oh hi [WHITE NAME]

[idle brook]

though it's definitely partially their fault. They should've announced all the stuff when they knew they were almost done with the game. So none of the garbage happened

[fiery coral]

do blogposts take enough time to have a significant impact on development?

[full rune]

i swore i remember reading somewhere that it's like a week or so

[serene chasm]

In Australia

[fiery coral]

I have like no clue about these things, hence I ask 🥴

[idle brook]

yes

[fleet temple]

well, they did kind of have to announce the trailer because the kickstarter backers were promised info on the hornet dlc or something like that

[native ivy]

they should do a trailer for the release trailer

[wary timber]

oh yeah

[fleet temple]

but I will admit, the blogposts and the demo did make people think it was further along than it was

[plush pendant]

I read that too somewhere, although I don't know where either.

[fiery coral]

the way my layman mind sees it, a blogpost will comprise stuff they're already done with, so I'm surprised it takes a week to write that same stuff on a page

[idle brook]

Yes, but so much in the very beginning?

[wary timber]

people actually pre paid for silksong

[warm bone]

you can't

[wary timber]

the backers i mean

[idle brook]

dead cells community better anyway lol

[warm bone]

I would not say pre-paid, more like the backers get it for free

[full rune]

the beta had a lot of stuff that looked finished but a lot either got cut or moved so i wonder if they are cautious to share something that might get moved or cut later

or if they just don't want to take the time for a blogpost and work on the game instead, one can only assume at this point

[warm bone]

cause you could have backed any amount and gotten it, right?

[wary timber]

idk