sk-discussion

[rapid topaz]

what, it literraly says "bad buyer"

[cerulean sable]

probably an allusion to you buying at Sly's

[empty trench]

I thought you had a heart attack at tga and disappeared

[rocky rune]

WAIT IM ON THE WRONG CHANNEL

[cerulean sable]

mental breakdown went down for like 4 hours

[marsh ibex]

We banned him

[drowsy isle]

french

[marsh ibex]

And then unbanned him

[cerulean sable]

i am dead

my "member since 2017" is no more tho 😔

goddamn you fucking non boomers

[modest night]

glad to have you back captain

[drowsy isle]

relatable

[cerulean sable]

i will fucking destroy you

[surreal owl]

Whoa. Evening mods.

[modest night]

wtf why

[cerulean sable]

my horoscope told me

[modest night]

omg what's your sign

[rapid topaz]

LMAO there is hk music in the background I didn't noticed

[random fox]

When u didnt noticed 😂

[rapid topaz]

the lyrics are absolutely not related to that, it's so funny and weird

[coarse leaf]

are u guys actually hoping for december news, or just piggy backing off the tga cult?

[drowsy isle]

I thought "bhkr" was the name of a black knight weapon in dark souls

[empty trench]

Lol

[cerulean sable]

"Good fortune is bestowed upon you, but only if you wear red colored clothes and defeat a Frenchman in 1v1 HEMA long sword duel"

[coarse leaf]

is it? idk

[random fox]

I think we will get s blogpost, idk if it will have a release date tho

[rapid topaz]

[glacial niche]

Tomorrow for sure

[modest night]

you brought your sword taco boy?

[cerulean sable]

god i wish

[valid sable]

Black Halberd Knight Rapier

[drowsy isle]

no but BKGS is and it looks similar or my brain is just dead

[cerulean sable]

no joke i was legitimately considering getting a flanged medieval mace for my first paycheck

[modest night]

you have 3 frenchmen to beat

[cerulean sable]

then i realized that shit isnt gonna go through customs

[drowsy isle]

who are these frenchmen

[random fox]

Fr*nchmen

[modest night]

me you etimo

[drowsy isle]

where do you even find 3 french people

[ancient spindle]

french (derogatory)

[random fox]

The real f word

[drowsy isle]

wait is this HEMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cQfEkJ0uno

[random fox]

Anyways goonidgt everhone

[modest night]

yo ttacco if you manage to get swords get me a rapiere and we'll fight

[coarse leaf]

on a boat to britain?

[ancient spindle]

goodbye monkey

[rapid topaz]

speaking of HK references in medias https://twitter.com/fireb0rn/status/1472388555322261506?s=20

fireb0rn (@fireb0rn)

I randomly heard the best Elderbug impression while watching a reality TV baking show. https://t.co/JuJ16SwQWg

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Twitter · Dec 19, 2021, 2:09 AM

[drowsy isle]

I did a few years of fencing

[opaque sigil]

Same

[coarse leaf]

just need one more musketeer

[drowsy isle]

oh wait hema means "Historical European Martial Arts" I thought it was the name of a game

[brittle garnet]

the tune sounds a lot like Dirtmouth

[cerulean sable]

because

it is

the sample was dirtmouth

[brittle garnet]

huh

[coarse leaf]

oh damn its actually dirtmouth

[dusty nimbus]

Buy an ikea mace that way you can take it with you like it is apart

[cerulean sable]

i legitimately checked if ikea sold medieval weaponry

ffs

[serene chasm]

lol

[dusty nimbus]

I didn't even mean to make you look

You could honestly buy a really good chef's knife if you like cooking, but I don't think that's a thing you'd like to get

[marsh ibex]

oh you want a sword?

I gotchu fam

[dusty nimbus]

You could use it for display purposes too since Asian cooking knifes do look cool

[marsh ibex]

what kinda sword you want my boy?

[drowsy isle]

I probably still have a sword I don't think I threw away my épée

[dusty nimbus]

Ohhhh you could get a chainsaw

[cerulean sable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yVkVGwSSL0

[marsh ibex]

Falchion? Zweihander? Odachi? A spatha? A backsword?

[dusty nimbus]

Hema

[marsh ibex]

You want it? It’s yours my friend, as long as you have enough rubees!

[dusty nimbus]

What if I have rupees instead of rubees?

[marsh ibex]

Sorry, we don’t take credit. Come back when you’re a little…hmm….RICHER!

[dusty nimbus]

What if I sell you black opals then?

They're good quality

[marsh ibex]

no

[dusty nimbus]

Your loss

[true vine]

looks kind of like lifeblood to me

[dusty nimbus]

It's actually a pretty shit photo tbh

[fallow rock]

https://tenor.com/view/when-does-it-come-out-liane-cartman-eric-cartman-south-park-s10e12-gif-21097972

pros have been doing this since 2003 so we got to wait

[rapid topaz]

me for Okami sequel

[marsh ibex]

I don’t take dollars

and opals are nasty in Koridai

[dusty nimbus]

That's because the deny Australia's existence

[misty shore]

Silksong for the nintendo 3DS 🤔

[fallow rock]

the 3ds is dead

[true vine]

so is my soul

[burnt topaz]

you doing ok?

[fallow rock]

you need a big old fat hug

[burnt topaz]

or perhaps a new soul

[coarse leaf]

Goodbye, server.

[burnt topaz]

again?

[marsh ibex]

haha nerd

[coarse leaf]

i havent spoke here in awhile how insane have people gotten?

[marsh ibex]

they’re fine

[valid sable]

We have successfully invaded Team Cherry headquarters, but they barricaded in the development room. We are holding their lunch hostage.

[grim forge]

[lofty robin]

We were told the final boss had something to do with purple right?

[warm bone]

wait fool is leaving again?

2nd time now I think

He'll be back, like last time

[elfin swift]

hey who wants to talk about something tangentially related to video games

just an interesting thread of lighting techniques, from the dude making that insane dark souls 2 lighting overhaul mod https://twitter.com/Stayd3D/status/1473092302994165764?s=20

Stayd (@Stayd3D)

The shader trick I've been teasing is called "light wrap." It's a fairly simple method for softening the appearance of light sources by "wrapping" their influence around objects and, interestingly, one that From has recently embraced, which I'd like to talk about here.

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Twitter · Dec 21, 2021, 12:45 AM

[grim forge]

Damn that looks sick

[elfin swift]

he talks a bit about how the technique is implemented in elden ring too

god i wish i could get on top of the tallest building in the world and scream in the ear of every console developer and executive on the planet HEY GUESS WHAT 6K RESOLUTION IS FUCKING MEANINGLESS INVEST IN LIGHTING TECHNOLOGY INSTEAD YOU CLOWNS

[warm bone]

they said elden ring is going to have raytracing right?

yes

via patch

[lofty robin]

This chat gonna be crazy in 51 years

[brittle garnet]

You mean it will not exist

[lofty robin]

I mean when ss releases

[brittle garnet]

So like in a year

[lofty robin]

If you want to be serious, yes hopetully in a year, and then this chat might blow up

[winter cypress]

i wonder if you can pogo off the bells in the deep docks

its bugged me since the demo was shown off

[lofty robin]

Maybe

I hope theres a massive boss, in hk all bosses were smol

[brittle garnet]

Which bells?

[vagrant umbra]

I can’t wait for every bell in video games to be called a Silksong reference.

[brittle garnet]

I don't rember there being any bells in Deep Docks?

[grim forge]

The bell from Silksong

[winter cypress]

ill get a screenshot real quick

[opaque sigil]

HK bosses were pretty big overall

[winter cypress]

these ones, the ones that swing when you hit them

[lofty robin]

Compared to the knight yes

[brittle garnet]

Oh these
I think you can probably pogo off of them

[brittle garnet]

The Robot is pretty big

[lofty robin]

Im talkijg about hk

[opaque sigil]

It's not much bigger than Rad though

[tawdry valley]

Failed champ, Traitor lord, and Radiance are all pretty big tbh

Golem/robot in SS looks to be the largest boss in game, not necessarily the largest NPC though.

Even excluding The wrym corpse and bardoon, there are plenty of HK bugs larger than that golem anyways

So scale definitely hasn’t been an issue for TC, but I’d like to see how far they can take it

[winter cypress]

the huntress seems pretty big for an npc

[tawdry valley]

Eh

[high hedge]

Shadows of colossus but bugs

[shell yacht]

slys piloting it

[tawdry valley]

I think they’re smaller than hunter actually

[shell yacht]

u think golems smaller than hunter?

[tawdry valley]

Huntress

[shell yacht]

oh huntress

[tawdry valley]

Ya

[shell yacht]

yeah shes fat but looks smaller

[high hedge]

The Flukemarm is pretty big in my memories

I don’t remember how big in actuality

Like 7

[brittle garnet]

I don't think that anything except for Bardoon and the Wyrm corpse is bigger than the robot

In terms of NPC's

[high hedge]

I spent a sec trying to figure out Bardo On

[brittle garnet]

There's also the greenpath beast corpse, that is bigger too

[short wagon]

Christmas is four days away

[brittle garnet]

I think even Unn might be smaller

[hollow sedge]

christmas update

[serene chasm]

Not gonna happen

[opaque sigil]

If they were going to do a holiday signoff they would have done it already

[hollow sedge]

[wintry minnow]

we need zote in silksong

[opaque sigil]

SS already has comic relief

[hollow sedge]

trobbio = zote

[true vine]

is there any silksong n

[opaque sigil]

What's a silksong n

[chilly nexus]

I love that the little hanging ball part of the bell has its own physics

[scenic coral]

what are people waiting for in december

[opaque sigil]

At this point, probably nothing

[scenic coral]

lmao true dont think were getting anything till release

[radiant wraith]

I don't know, it just seems like Trobbio is actually good at what he does

He is described as master

So I don't think he'll be a complete idiot like Zote

[opaque sigil]

Trobbio isn't a zote type

Sherma is the zote

[languid linden]

No u

[radiant wraith]

Sherma could take Zote 1v1 any day

[opaque sigil]

A crawlid could take Zote 1v1 any day

[radiant wraith]

True

Sherma boss fight in Pantheon of Pharloom?

[young saffron]

should I even bother to ask 💀

[radiant wraith]

Yes you should

[young saffron]

silksong news?

[radiant wraith]

Not yet

[opaque sigil]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[radiant wraith]

We did get a Blogpost 2 years ago tho, If you didn't know

[young saffron]

2 years ago maybe we get one for chirstmas

[radiant wraith]

Dreamer you are

Dream on

[opaque sigil]

If we were going to get a holiday blogpost it would already have happened

Also blogposts are kinda bad

[marsh ibex]

y’all hear smth?

[radiant wraith]

I do

[opaque sigil]

Yeah it's the sound of you not shutting up, somebody should do something about that

[serene chasm]

damn tammo

[marsh ibex]

must be a cutting rebuttal

Shame I can’t see it

and a shame you won’t be on this server much longer

[opaque sigil]

Joker blocked me so either:
I can say whatever and he doesn't see my messages
He just inconvenienced himself by forcing himself to click on the messages I send

Either way I win

[serene chasm]

[opaque sigil]

[marsh ibex]

Don’t emote spam @opaque sigil

[pearl meadow]

[opaque sigil]

The more messages I send the more Joker has to click

[radiant wraith]

This is such a shame. Fans of bad games should stick together

[opaque sigil]

[radiant wraith]

Not fight each other

[pearl meadow]

Bullying Joker is simply a way of life

[opaque sigil]

What are you calling a bad game

[radiant wraith]

I'm sorry cat step on keyboard

[opaque sigil]

[hearty bear]

[pearl meadow]

[radiant wraith]

[narrow lava]

[radiant wraith]

Guys, something weird is happening to the moon

[opaque sigil]

[coarse leaf]

emote spam @ moduratooors 😡

[serene chasm]

Its just gonna crash into the earth in 72 hours

[radiant wraith]

Cool!

[fallow rock]

what did it moon you

[cerulean sable]

guys please that is enough

anyway i want you all to listen to Bloodhail as per usual that is all

[radiant wraith]

Thank you moderator

[opaque sigil]

That's gotta be the edgiest song title I've ever read

[cerulean sable]

i will fucking demolish you if you make another trash take again

[opaque sigil]

Do it, I fear no taco

[cerulean sable]

i hope you get 0 growths

[true vine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/901246997422546944/there_is_no_news.gif

[serene chasm]

I will no listen to this band and judge. By that I mean I will listen to this one song

[cerulean sable]

we move in silence like the g in matthew griffin

[radiant wraith]

Guys please listen to Deadly Bloody Teared Massacre

[true vine]

I hate you very much

[cerulean sable]

its a good song, just not a good Deathconsciousness song

[hollow sedge]

will i be punished if i leave the december division

[cerulean sable]

no biggies well be moving the goalpost soon anyway

[marsh ibex]

yes

twenty push ups

[hollow sedge]

whats the january one gonna be called

[cerulean sable]

no Jans were going straight for Feb

[fiery coral]

We hold a dim view of deserters and desertion

[radiant wraith]

Impossible challenge for HK Discord regular

[marsh ibex]

I can do twenty push ups lmao

[cerulean sable]

i cant but i will destroy you in a quake match

[serene chasm]

I dont believe you. Video or it didnt happen

[opaque sigil]

Twenty push ups is not that hard

[radiant wraith]

I was joking...

[serene chasm]

Judging complete. I did enjoy the song, maybe a bit too long, not a fan when a song repeats itself over and over. 7/10

[hollow sedge]

twenty push ups in one go is pretty hard

[serene chasm]

no

[hollow sedge]

but if i do a push up every day for 20 days then thats easy

[cerulean sable]

bruh the part they start saying

[serene chasm]

Im not very fit so Ill struggle around 25.

But 20 is doable in one round

[cerulean sable]

"And we kill them all with, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads, arrowheads" was the best part

[radiant wraith]

This must be a parody on the genre, it can't be all like this right?

Can it?

[cerulean sable]

bro its the backing vocals

tf u sayin

its supposed to loop in the BG

[radiant wraith]

Alright alright

It's funny tho

[hollow sedge]

i wonder how different the starting area of moss grotto will look from the e3 demo to release

[serene chasm]

I think it will be more open

[verbal trench]

hollow knight

[fiery coral]

[hollow sedge]

im expecting some background changes fs, maybe more statues looking up

[gilded adder]

my Silk friends

[verbal trench]

carmelita is pretty, i like them

[valid sable]

[cerulean sable]

https://youtu.be/iKC21wDarBo?t=126 SS discussion cults in the year 2055 after their 295th speculation of why Silksong will undeniably come out after 4 decades of news drought

[silver oak]

the onion is legitimately funny

people make fun of it but they've released some banger stuff

[fallow rock]

parry that mess back FILTHY FRUCKING CAUSAL GARABAGE

[cerulean sable]

ur mother

[fallow rock]

ur father

[silver oak]

unfortunately, your mother

[chilly nexus]

I wonder if TC watched The Simple Life

[fallow rock]

probably might

[odd plover]

Do we know if there's gonna be anything like steady body in ss?

[fallow rock]

no

[odd plover]

Damn, it just made things a lot more comfortable

Well, what gives

[opaque sigil]

sbody as a tool would be dubious

It's fine as a charm but it's pretty reliant on QS to be useful

So you would need two tool slots to get any real benefit from it

[fallow rock]

hey fellas tomorrow is my birthday

[spare orbit]

woohoo, only 42 days left for silksong to be released!

[spare orbit]

happy birthday btw

[serene chasm]

You seem oddly confident. I cant wait to see all of it get teared down

[opaque sigil]

Is that another feb 1 thing

That isn't the real release date

[serene chasm]

Feb 1st is cringe

[opaque sigil]

Very

[fallow rock]

hey guys time for more heavy pressing topics of the todays world is will #hk-meme ever become better and making original memes

[serene chasm]

no and no

[fallow rock]

reasons for why

[silver oak]

they never were good in the first place

[serene chasm]

its hk-meme and its hk-meme

Hey Necro

[silver oak]

yo

[fallow rock]

even if we had people who make original memes on the spot wouldn't help them

[grim forge]

Reposts and unoriginality is the nature of dedicated meme channels, especially in communities with not much going on atm

[serene chasm]

Thank goodness that doesnt happen here

[silver oak]

we never drive jokes into the ground, not us

[serene chasm]

Anyways, let's talk about tools

[coarse leaf]

which one is the sharpest in the shed

[serene chasm]

The one that was looking kind of dumb with its finger and its thumb in the shape of an L on its forehead

[fallow rock]

really you said that and do this

[trim estuary]

Yeah? Watch this

Silksong is never coming back.

[reef scarab]

Can’t wait for the Christmas news

[fiery coral]

[high hedge]

Where did it go

[reef scarab]

Also if none of y’all are right about December please join the church with me.

[trim estuary]

yo yo mom

[high hedge]

:(

[fiery coral]

February first

[reef scarab]

Placeholder

[fiery coral]

but if not, then yes

[fiery coral]

well yes but a man can hope :(

[hollow terrace]

No news militia

[fiery coral]

what's a shark doing in the militia

[serene chasm]

Whenever Gang!

[hollow terrace]

Reenacting sandstorm Insurgency

[hollow sedge]

i have no clue on what this tool would be used for

[fiery coral]

But the shark will die in the sandstorm it needs water

[hollow terrace]

I’ll die just to persevere our group

[fiery coral]

reminds me of a conch

[hollow terrace]

Remember folks, lets go for two years of no news

[serene chasm]

Its a vuvuzela

[analog lily]

where'd you find that
edge magazine?

[hollow sedge]

edge screenshot

[analog lily]

thought so, i have only seen the magazine from screen shots and don't have my own copy

[high hedge]

Every time TC drops Silksong news, a vessel gets its Nail.

[opaque sigil]

I mean like 75% of existing screenshots are from Edge so it wasn't exactly a lucky guess

[analog lily]

yeah true

[tardy orbit]

Based

[shell yacht]

Titanfall 3 and Scalebound fans be like

[serene chasm]

It really sucks that titanfall never became big.

[analog lily]

eer what's titanfall

[shell yacht]

[analog lily]

👐 🆙

[hollow sedge]

ive never played any titanfall game before

doesn't seem that popular

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/titanfall-i-got-you-mech-titan-robot-gif-5987551

[analog lily]

wait titanfall is a series of games????
someone please explain this

[shell yacht]

2 games

[opaque sigil]

Titanfall 2 has one of the strongest fps campaigns I've ever played, including games like Doom and Bioshock

[shell yacht]

first one was almost nonexistant story, 2 was the bomb

[analog lily]

hmm seems intresting
i might look into it

[serene chasm]

is tf2 mp still a shitshow?

[wispy idol]

First one didnt have a campaign at all

Story was its own multiplayer queue, that was just the same multiplayer game with extra dialogue

[serene chasm]

yeah. Basically that. If you are going to get one. Get 2 and skip 1

[wispy idol]

^

Id be shocked if you can even fill a lobby in tf1

Actually, hang on im gonna try

[serene chasm]

good luck

[silver oak]

For a sec I thought you guys were talking about team fortress, not titanfall

[serene chasm]

does tf2 have mechs?

[silver oak]

I was like, since when did tf2 have a story campaign

[chilly nexus]

since ss released

[silver oak]

Wait, silksong released????????????

[chilly nexus]

||I'm sorry||

[silver oak]

Did that guy make the ss-disc drawing?

[coarse leaf]

he said it'll take him a while

[tawdry valley]

You get it from the coral area. It mimics an attack style of the enemies in that area.

[serene chasm]

new comparison

[silver oak]

well that's not the same room

but the leaves are bigger

[serene chasm]

No. But the same area so it still works, I think

[silver oak]

also, there are gray rock things in the floor now

and ceiling

[chrome dragon]

I think that's just the splash from the attack hitting the floors. It seems to be a pretty fast boss. Hornet is sprinting after all

[silver oak]

I don't think it's a boss

[chrome dragon]

Maybe similar to a mawlek

Ohh I thought you were talking about the yellow particles from where the yellow drops were hitting

[silver oak]

those look like they're in the background, not on the level of hornet

oh cool, I'm just blind apparently

if the player has no idea what the fuck is happening, you know you've succeeded

anyways, I'm going to bed

[fiery coral]

goodknight Necro, sleep well

[serene chasm]

Good knight Necro

wat

[narrow lava]

Oíche mhaith

[cerulean sable]

I have feeling environmental stuff will do the same damage mechanic like the coals in deep docks

like say instead of getting damage immediately, you start building up via tick

[chrome dragon]

Do we need a Geiger counter to leave deep docks?

[lethal portal]

what do u guys think the final boss for ss be??

[chrome dragon]

Iselda

[narrow lava]

its gonna be seth, think about it

[floral tartan]

Hungry knight

[long nimbus]

Youreself 😔😔😔

[serene chasm]

The Silksong

[lethal portal]

[long nimbus]

You fight a music sheet

[serene chasm]

Its a music battle against Christopher Larkin himself

[long nimbus]

I could see another god type being

Maybe we get an encounter with a wyrm/wyrm reincarnation

[agile kelp]

Hornet must face pest control

[serene chasm]

It wants its giant ball of yarn back

[long nimbus]

Maybe a five year old like pours windex into pharloom like it’s an ant hill

And it’s like a ori and the will of the wisps water escape scene

Please no

[floral tartan]

No, if its a 5 year old that windex will be more yellow

[long nimbus]

We don’t need another indie game to be an epic allegory for depression and mental health, bugs just need to be buggin

Maybe big spider?

😳 no

[subtle ridge]

Hollow Knight X Adventures with Anxiety crossover, gogogo

[serene chasm]

what if you play as giant hornet and have to fight smolnet

[long nimbus]

Just completely obliterate smolnet

Mario big mushroom

[subtle ridge]

*briefly imagines buff hornet*

welp, I'm off, you guys have fun here

[reef scarab]

Let’s hope for Silksong at the direct tomorrow!

[serene chasm]

hahahahahaha

Is there really a direct tomorrow?

[cosmic widget]

No

[serene chasm]

Thought so. Just wanted to make sure. Not that there would be anything if there was one

[analog lily]

wait there's a direct tommorow?
eeh i don't really care, just gonna be the same dissapointment as always

[serene chasm]

There is not

[elfin badge]

If silksong istn real then are we real?

[potent plover]

silksong is real but we are not. we can never play it. Not because it doesn't exist, but because we don't exist.

[alpine crane]

Controllers are a lie

[elfin badge]

The glitch in the matrix weve found it!

[analog forge]

if silksong isnt real, then i wish i wasnt

[elfin badge]

Mood

[potent plover]

what counts as "Real"? does "real" mean it's something that exists as a concept, like A word? If so then silksong has to be real of course, But that is not the only definition of "Real"

[elfin badge]

Its to late at night for such deep thoughts

technically were all made of mostly nothing

[serene chasm]

I think, therefore I am

[elfin badge]

cogito ergo sum

[potent plover]

I think therefore Fuck Sherma

[serene chasm]

sherma bad

[potent plover]

Sherma dead

[elfin badge]

just like capitalism

[serene chasm]

soon. I cant wait to throw sherma into the lava

[split tide]

I think, therefore I spend

[potent plover]

Capitalism is dead?

[analog lily]

capitalism is dead

[potent plover]

That's brutal, Perfect.

[serene chasm]

Gonna get the kill sherma any% WR

[elfin badge]

i was saying that to sherma bad you sent that right before me

[dense cove]

what did sherma do

[potent plover]

Gonna go watch new spider man movie, Farewell for now!

[serene chasm]

War crimes

[analog lily]

so capitalism is bad
...
nah i like capitalism is dead more

[coarse leaf]

the cogito has some issues

[elfin badge]

i mean...

[coarse leaf]

Nietzsche, I hate to admit, had a point

[serene chasm]

Evening Tess

[coarse leaf]

…the philosopher must say to himself: "When I analyze the process that is expressed in this sentence, 'I think,' I find a whole series of daring assertions that would be difficult, perhaps impossible, to prove—for example, that it is I who think, that there must necessarily be something that thinks, that thinking is an activity and operation on the part of a being who is thought of as a cause, that there is an 'ego,' and, finally, that it is already determined what is to be designated by thinking—that I know what thinking is.

[serene chasm]

Ill admit, I know very little about the different philosophers

[elfin badge]

I mainly have seen plato and socrates as far as philosophers go, oh and mossbag

WITH sunglasses

[coarse leaf]

All that shows is that thoughts about Silksong exist

Of course, I think such pedantic nonsense is idiotic

[cerulean sable]

if you pull out hornet's mask, will she die?

or will it be extremely painful

[serene chasm]

I dont know, and I dont think I want to

[heavy bluff]

everyday i come here with hope i am but a fool

[olive bobcat]

It's like pulling off someone's skin
Doable but you shouldn't

[cerulean sable]

i was reference the dark knight and that akward plane exchange but ty for all the repoinses

now i will kill every single one of you

[cunning geode]

me first

[cerulean sable]

after that first quake match, i dont think i have to wombat

[cunning geode]

yeah the ping difference might make it hard

[cerulean sable]

yrue]

[cunning geode]

may as well not bother

[olive bobcat]

"You wanna know how I got these shards?"

[cerulean sable]

jester

[cunning geode]

so you still counting on December?

godspeed

[cerulean sable]

yeet

[hollow sedge]

never thought that the tool would have been acquired in the coral forest even though its pretty obvious by design

[fiery coral]

betrayal

[calm badger]

yall saw the new silksong trailer they just dropped

[ocean mulch]

Modtrayal

[ocean mulch]

Yeah you should watch it

[surreal crown]

Time to take your normal pills

I have soup to wash it down

[torpid nymph]

Wake up
Wake up
Wake up

[serene chasm]

Grab a brush and put on a little makeup

[hearty shale]

[chilly nexus]

I feel like SS news will come next when we're mid-spring and warm is the norm

[sleek crow]

Silksong tomorrow

[serene chasm]

I dont know what to feel anymore.

[coarse leaf]

believe guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hollow sedge]

maybe a holiday sign off before christmas 🗿

[fiery coral]

Say a little prayer for Silksong

[coarse leaf]

unique is it your bday today?

[fiery coral]

Yeah

[coarse leaf]

omg, happy birthday chief! 🎂

[marble marsh]

happy birthday

[fiery coral]

Thank you!

[serene chasm]

O shit it is
Happy Birthday Unique!

[agile kelp]

I BELIEVE I CAN PLAY SILKSONG -r.kelly

[jade canopy]

Give me your steam username so I can gift you silksong unique

[fiery coral]

Oh

uh it's the same as my Discord username

Can't wait to get an unreleased game

[jade canopy]

Imma send you a tutorial to make a fake game on steam, you know like when you just have a name, a banner and an icon that appears on your library

[fiery coral]

I'll be honest I didn't know whether it was a serious request so I said that last bit just in case it was

[fiery coral]

[serene chasm]

Can I add you as a friend?

[coarse leaf]

Unregistered hypercam 3.0

[hollow sedge]

your birthday gift will be a silksong blogpost today

[jade canopy]

^^

[fiery coral]

Sure

[fiery coral]

No way

imagine though

c'mon TC pls do it for me

[coarse leaf]

Hope

[fallow rock]

whos the gift for

[coarse leaf]

Replace the H with

[fiery coral]

🌊

[jade canopy]

C ?

[coarse leaf]

The letter D

[serene chasm]

both of you, I guess. double the chance of blogpost ||2 times 0 is still 0 though||

[heady iron]

who dares have the same birthday as me

[serene chasm]

Your birthday is the 21st too?

[coarse leaf]

Mine is in
2 months

[serene chasm]

Mine is in 2.5

[coarse leaf]

imagine if we actually get news in February tho

on my birthday

[serene chasm]

SS will never release on anyones birthday

[coarse leaf]

[fiery coral]

Plot twist, SS releases on Curly's birthday

[formal flint]

Hey guys, silksong doesn’t exist

[serene chasm]

I am nobody so that is possible

[young saffron]

silksong is so boring 🥱

[formal kelp]

stop with your denials

[marble marsh]

no its just too easy, which can make it more boring

[ivory niche]

plot twist, SS releases

[young saffron]

i am insane.

[ocean axle]

I just realised there are people died irl and didn't have the chance to play ss

[kind tundra]

Am I the only one thinking that TC should just communicate with the community instead of dropping ss news?

[coarse leaf]

I’m ngl, it’s pretty odd how seclusive and radio silent TC is

[analog forge]

no shit

[coarse leaf]

At least we have Graig for company

[analog forge]

no, graig is who they send out to torture us

[young saffron]

leth is alive he typed to us on indie event day.

[coarse leaf]

I should be in bed rn

Should I sleep@or nah

[hollow sedge]

sleep is for the weak

[fiery coral]

[coarse leaf]

Ok cya then

[hollow sedge]

[crystal vector]

Silksong when

[tame widget]

When Silksong

[marble marsh]

silksong doesnt exist, it was a hallucination

[tame widget]

[formal kelp]

funny

[agile lily]

Silksong

[safe adder]

So. Milk 🥛?

[formal kelp]

seems as this chat has entered a deep state of depression

[stoic path]

Can't wait for Dani to make Milksong

[formal kelp]

thanks dan I

[stoic path]

Seems like something he would do

[serene chasm]

Woo stage 4

[native ivy]

silksong yo mama gottem

[dusk badger]

its more hibernation honestly

[unique pawn]

This chat hibernates during winter

[dusk badger]

im sure it will rile back up in february

[gaunt lion]

Yeah don't think there will really be anything till then

[unique pawn]

If you wake them up its a warzone

No TC blog yet

[chilly breach]

I remember earlier today I saw some water droplets, one was shaped like the number 1 and the other, hornet, of course! My mind started racing and I thought, what could the 1 mean, 1 day? 1 month? 1 year??? This was obviously the amount of time until Team Cherry would drop the release date. I settled on a month, as tomorrow is too soon right and a year, well we’ve been through 2 right? So a month it is, a month till silksong’s release date get’s announced right? /j obviously

[analog forge]

havent we been through 3 years?

2019, 2020, and 2021

[unique pawn]

Yeah, 3 years

[chilly breach]

[dusk badger]

water droplets signify 1 eternity. rest

[tame widget]

This could also mean, 1st February /j

[native ivy]

but its summer

[dusk badger]

Im sure the southeners still call it winter

[unique pawn]

Its called winter in scotland at this time atleast

[dusk badger]

I meant the people who live in the south hemisphere...

[dreamy lava]

Would be cool after release, now idc, they're working on probably the most important project of their lifes

[unique pawn]

Eh, but how can it be summer?!?!

[tame widget]

Hemispheres

[unique pawn]

Fair enough

[crisp drift]

it's australia

[unique pawn]

Anyways it has been leaked that silksong on saturday, hornet told me

[hazy dome]

How Hornet told you that?
I just visit her grave yesterday

[dusty nimbus]

She's a time traveler

[ashen canyon]

Is silksong out

[swift sonnet]

no

[ashen canyon]

Good thing I'm not insane like the Fandom rn

[open abyss]

How are you chat?

[surreal crown]

Doing good, I suppose. You?

[crisp drift]

casually forgetting Silksong's existence until i accidentally clicked on this server

[dusk badger]

want soup

[surreal crown]

here soup 🥣

[dusk badger]

thank soup

[echo condor]

cant wait for yall to discover when omori was teased and when released

[left basin]

Just did p5 overcharmed

[formal kelp]

2014

[left basin]

Pog

[dusk badger]

im amazed i only heard about it after it launched

[empty trench]

Bro what a genius

[haughty ingot]

team cherry has 10 days to give news

or else

or else i shid myself

[dusk badger]

nooo dont do it

waiting for google assistant to host silksong news for an entire month

new years sure is coming up

[verbal marsh]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[dusty nimbus]

Haha, this chat dead again

[glacial gulch]

silksong when?

[cerulean tree]

yesterday

[dusty nimbus]

Silknever XD

As once it was foretold before

[hazy dome]

Silk

[coarse leaf]

Song

[uncut citrus]

this was all i had to say for today! thank you for lisening to my ted talk cya in a couples of hours probably

[dusk badger]

hi past reevers

[cerulean sable]

And top of SS disc comes off
Hyped up everyone in there

And watching all the events come up
Trying to pretend that I dont care

[brittle garnet]

it wouldn't have been hard for them to do so, since the logo is publicly available on the press kit

[fiery coral]

And I'm hoping
for some miracle to break out
to escape from all this

[fiery coral]

https://open.spotify.com/track/754WgEesWgssZG3XzU9XcG?si=c0521489002c4181

[fiery coral]

I'd ask you to link the referenced song as well but I already feel reasonably confident it's from Have a Nice Life

is it Earthmover or Bloodhail

[calm night]

ñ

[cerulean sable]

bloodhail

ngl i first heard of nuclear from MGS5

[fiery coral]

I heard it from a ymfah video

[ocean mulch]

I collapsed the HK channels and thought SS disc was deleted for a second

[radiant wraith]

The good ending

[cerulean sable]

what is ymfah

[radiant wraith]

Good Dark Souls ytber?

[patent wing]

who is graig

[ocean mulch]

how is graig

[neat palm]

More evidence that Kojima is making Silksong.

[neat palm]

Why is Graig

[gaunt lion]

Graig is the voice of pain

[fiery coral]

mostly does unorthodox Souls/Bethesda game challenge runs (no walking, no talking, no magic and other more creative constraints), edits them extremely well

[ocean mulch]

You mean... the Voice

[radiant wraith]

Don't spoil

[brittle garnet]

This chat is not spoiler-free you know, says it right there on the tin

[proud vale]

What’s the latest silk pals

[brittle garnet]

nothing

[true vine]

is there any silksong

[brittle garnet]

yes, it's in development right now

[ocean mulch]

Your milk is already spoiled. Look at the date.

[true vine]

huh

[ocean mulch]

I can't believe this is our first date

[lament lotus]

long dates

[dusty nimbus]

Ayo, you talking smack about my cousin

[random fox]

Smack ur cousin

[fair wharf]

It hurts me

All these games without release dates

Please end my suffering

[cerulean sable]

play released games

like B - - - - e Br - - h - - s

[small goblet]

bsilke brsohngs?

[sage glade]

HAH DATES

[drowsy isle]

is the first word "battle"

[small goblet]

and second is brothers

[drowsy isle]

yeah makes sense

so smash bros?

[small goblet]

[random fox]

Incredible battle brothers insane

[alpine zephyr]

what is silksong

[exotic thunder]

The unreleased sequel with main character hornet in the kingdom of pharloom

[alpine zephyr]

Ok

[tame widget]

To truly know what Silksong is, we must firstly know what is Silk & what is Song

[alpine zephyr]

Silk comes out of moth right

[tame widget]

Silk is produce by mothgrubs & spiders

[alpine zephyr]

Song is something that comes out of vocal chord to please other

[stiff owl]

Philosophy

[tawdry valley]

Breath of the wild

Donkey Kong country remake

[untold elk]

What is going on here?

[tawdry valley]

Jack

[brittle garnet]

Battle Brothers

[high hedge]

Jack who

[shy stirrup]

JACK FROS
T GOTTTEMM

[cerulean sable]

gj

[ocean mulch]

We know silk is related to some sort of religious practice and song is likely just a cultural thing that maybe has some higher being shenanigans

[tawdry valley]

Jack shit

[ocean mulch]

I'm wheezing

[tawdry valley]

I cannot think of any videogames about silk and/or song. Please elaborate.

[high hedge]

🥁

[ocean mulch]

I am talk about "The sequel to Hollow Knight"

[stark estuary]

My theory is that it's related to the potential HB which is causing The Haunting.

[tawdry valley]

That wasn’t a pun. I just assumed “Jack” and “Jack shit” were common slang

[high hedge]

The Hollow Boat

[ocean mulch]

The Voice

[ocean mulch]

They're

[stark estuary]

The Voice isn't causing The Haunting, it's opposed to it if anything.

The Voice is the (probably) HB responsible for the empowerment of Seth.

[high hedge]

Oh I got it, I just wanted you to respond like it was Joe

[brittle garnet]

I think the Voice is causing the Haunting, but not willingly

[stark estuary]

A long time ago I had a crackpot theory which was that The Haunting was caused by a parasitic HB that fed on the Soul other HBs which has yet to fully awaken (Pharloom's Folly) and that, due to the lack of available HBs, the reason Hornet was brought to Pharloom was so that her "Soul of Wyrm" could be sacrificed to it, enabling it to wake up.

[brittle garnet]

My theory is that the Citadel is a prison for a HB whose power is being used to create the Haunting and/or other things

[ocean mulch]

my theory is that hornet is cool

[stark estuary]

Wrong.

[ocean mulch]

shut your yapps

[brittle garnet]

i got a few raesons for thinking that, one of them being the prevalent theme of chains being everywhere, an interpretation of Pharloom's Folly, and the thematic reversal of Silksong when compared to HK

[stark estuary]

Makes sense, but then why would they have needed to capture Hornet? To have her produce high quality SoulSilk ™️ , yeah, but I feel like the results of her Wyrm heritage would also be an important factor if they were to go through all the effort of capturing her specifically.

[brittle garnet]

I feel like the reason Hornet was captured is something so specific that we can't really make any sort of accurate or sensible prediction without playing the game

like the whole point of the game is to find that out

[stark estuary]

Yeah ofc

[brittle garnet]

but yeah I think her Wyrm heritage is probably an important factor

now is the time to link my theory doc

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PuDZwlUvySxSmT177rgdSnTax8cQxiYvFgEbX2aQ-7A/edit#

though tbh I think I've had enough time to polish some sections, I kinda don't feel like

[small goblet]

~~i think that roots are from tree and pillars hold something ~~

[brittle garnet]

no tree

[high hedge]

They just want to know where she got her cloak

[stark estuary]

The Infection used Dreams as a Vector. I predict that The Haunting will use Soul, which is the reason for them producing a crapton of Soul-infused Silk via Weavers etc. This also links in with the "Song" aspect, as Soul is known to make whispering noises. The Snail Shamans could form it into a shout and in the case of PK, it seems as though he was able to manipulate Soul to the extent where he was able to form full sentences (I can elaborate if you want). Soul-infused Silk, string instruments, maybe the source of The Haunting is the titular "Silk Song".

[tawdry valley]

-Prayer beads are the currency of the kingdom
-Game is called silksong
-Some kind of song is enslaving the kingdom using silk magic

SS-discussion:
This may be a stretch, but I think the whole silk and song thing is referring to prayer but also magic

[stark estuary]

Accurate

And perfectly timed

[small goblet]

imagine speculating on ss lore

[stark estuary]

Well I can't speculate on HK lore now can I

[high hedge]

Matpat did

[tawdry valley]

Speculation usually has leaps in logic/evidence to manage a lack of evidence. This is about guessing the ending, for a videogame about finding out what the ending is, before the game even exists

[stark estuary]

It's called "baseless speculation"

[tawdry valley]

I’m not saying wondering what’s at the end is wrong or even not fun, but like, it’s a pitch black room

[stark estuary]

Void

[high hedge]

Clearly the fleas build into the main antagonist

[stark estuary]

Wait a second

[brittle garnet]

the ending has to do with the flowers, definitely

[stark estuary]

I’m not saying wondering what’s at the end is wrong or even not fun, but like, it’s a pitch black room

[tawdry valley]

A, B, C, and (literally anything you want because we have no clue) because A, B, and C

[stark estuary]

The end is Void

[high hedge]

Just like Zote

[tawdry valley]

Fleas are everywhere, the caravan is suspiciously rich, it would make a good plot twist to make the fleas evil, so the fleas are the final boss of Silksong and they’ve been controlling the kingdom for a while now

[high hedge]

Fleas do be like that

[tawdry valley]

You signed an NDA, shh

[stark estuary]

You're right in saying that in the absence of clarification, almost everything is a viable interpretation, DDX.

[brittle garnet]

I wonder if there are gonna be any endings like the GM one, which are acquired in a completely different way and in a completely different place than the usual endings

[stark estuary]

But I feel we need to exercise a bit of common sense here, which may sound incredibly ironic coming from me, because it is.

Like, the idea of a song enslaving the kingdom using silk magic isn't too far-fetched, and is supported by the little circumstantial evidence we have access to.

[brittle garnet]

so anyway, coming back to the thematic inversions as compared to HK (ascension vs. descension, physical vs. magical, etc.)
HK had an imprisoned malicious entity
so SS could have an imprisoned benevolent entity instead

going off of the assumption that an entity is in fact imprisoned/sealed/held at the top of the Citadel

[small goblet]

so if knight is void, hornet is-

[stark estuary]

When you wake they shall see your truth,

A beast's nature bare to all.

[sage glade]

human 😃

[stark estuary]

Assuming that's what PF is referring to, it doesn't sound too benevolent to me.

[fringe pulsar]

What

[rancid crow]

silk

[brittle garnet]

the thing is,
we see the flowers at the top of the Citadel, which is the main home of the antagonists, the Citadel's caste
but we also see flowers at the bottom of the Citadel, where Seth is defending something from the Citadel's caste

[languid violet]

your mom

[brittle garnet]

but this poem is about/directed to Pharloom itself

[fringe pulsar]

[brittle garnet]

this means that the Kingdom itself has the beastly nature

[stark estuary]

That's certainly one interpretation. But Elegy for Hallownest was referring to PK, not the kingdom.

[brittle garnet]

which to me means that the Kingdom itself operates or was founded on some evil stuff

[sage glade]

mommy hornet

[brittle garnet]

but this is not the Elegy for Hallownest

[languid violet]

and so, the entire chat went silent

[olive bobcat]

But it's an example of multiple interpretations based on what was previously seen as fact

[opaque sigil]

It was about the kingdom, but in reference to PK

[stark estuary]

That's what I said.

[brittle garnet]

also, Elegy for Hallownest seems to actually be directed to the kingdom itself, not PK

[stark estuary]

It's referring to PK

[brittle garnet]

no

[silver oak]

no u

[sage glade]

yes im aware of the effect i have

[small goblet]

why, did kingdom grant mind to bugs? ||ritorical question||

[stark estuary]

It can be directed towards something but referring to something else

[verbal marsh]

odds on ss on 31st???

[brittle garnet]

well yeah that's what I mean

[languid violet]

i know the effect as well

[brittle garnet]

the poem is directed to Hallownest
similarly, Pharloom's Folly is directed to Pharloom

[small goblet]

but why is it directed to hallownest, only because of name?

[stark estuary]

My exact words were: "Elegy for Hallownest was referring to PK, not the kingdom. ". So the "Beastly nature" may not necessarily refer to the kingdom of Pharloom even if that's what the poem is directed towards.

[silver oak]

Low

[brittle garnet]

I don't think so
because it is preceeded by "When you wake they shall see your truth:"
so if it is directed at Pharloom, then the Beastly nature is refering to Pharloom as well

[small goblet]

||coca cola|| zero

[stark estuary]

Similarly,

For none could tame our savage souls yet you the challenge met,
Under palest watch, you taught, we changed, base instincts were redeemed,

[brittle garnet]

I rather think that "They forget your heart, bound in slumber and servitude" is the verse that is refering to something else than Pharloom

[small goblet]

but... hornet has beastly nature too...

[silver oak]

Wanna sprite cranberry?

[verbal marsh]

||Ari Gibson ||

H A H A H A

[silver oak]

What

[verbal marsh]

Don't mind me

[brittle garnet]

"you taught" still refers to Hallownest
because it is preceeded by "Under palest watch", which is the part that actually refers to PK, but "you taught" is about Hallownest, hence why it is separate from "under palest watch"

"Under palest watch, you taught..." means that the Kingdom has taught, under the watch of the Pale King

it would be kinda weird to say that "X did something under Y's watch" if X and Y are the same thing

[small goblet]

"yet you the challenge met" hallownest isn't a living thing, it was pale king's idea to do all stuff that happened with moths

[brittle garnet]

this is a poem, not a conversation
it's an alegory

but the sentence structure is refering to Hallownest itself

[stark estuary]

Yes, it refers to Hallownest, but in reality, it is solely the Pale King who "taught", not Hallownest itself. "While we were under your watch, you taught us."

[small goblet]

as well as palest watch may be an allegory of every creature supporting pale king's ideas

[trim estuary]

There’s a reason they call poems poetic

[brittle garnet]

yeah that last part is super weird, makes no sense as a phrase.

[split tide]

Yeah it’s really PK himself that influenced the bugs and their minds, not Hallownest

[brittle garnet]

also Hallownest is comprised of an entire society, not only the Pale King

[stark estuary]

Only PK could redeem base instincts tho

[wary marlin]

Silksong

[opaque sigil]

It's figurative

It's a poem

[stark estuary]

Sure, but in that line it's still very clearly referring to PK's beacon specifically.

[split tide]

Doesn’t mean that it’s not open to analysis

Even a more literal one too

[stark estuary]

It's figurative because it's directed towards the kingdom of Hallownest. But the interpretation is that.

[opaque sigil]

Which is what Arch was saying

[stark estuary]

I never disagreed - I said that the same could be true for PF.

[opaque sigil]

It could

[brittle garnet]

it's figurative in the way that Hallownest, as a whole, gave the bugs a civilized world

[split tide]

It does work for both

[brittle garnet]

PK started it all but he sure didn't build the entire kingdom himself

[opaque sigil]

PK and his kingdom are pretty inextricably bound

[high hedge]

Brick by brick

[split tide]

He was still an incredibly significant catalyst

Hallownest wouldn’t have reached anywhere near it’s glory without PK

[brittle garnet]

yeah but that's a bit irrelevant to the point

[high hedge]

I doubt there was a concept of currency in Hallownest before the Pale King

[stark estuary]

It's talking about the redemption of base instincts, that's just PK. PK alone is the one responsible for giving bugs a civilized world, not anybody else.

[opaque sigil]

No it isn't, because referring to one (the kingdom) necessarily involves the other (PK)

[high hedge]

Even with functional preexisting societies

[brittle garnet]

my point is that when Pharloom's Folly says:
"They forget your heart, bound in slumber and servitude,

When you wake they shall see your truth,

A beast's nature bare to all."

It refers to the kingdom itself. The entire poem is basically saying that Pharloom is built upon lies or some kind of secret evil act.

is my interpretation

[opaque sigil]

It directly refers to the kingdom, but not to the exclusion of indirect reference

[split tide]

Ah well that seems like a reasonable interpretation

[brittle garnet]

the "Beast's nature" surely doesn't refer to spiders or some bullshit like that, anyhow

that would be way too on the nose

[stark estuary]

It refers to Herrah the Beast

[opaque sigil]

So you saw that insane video too

[stark estuary]

Good video

[split tide]

There’s a video on this?

[stark estuary]

Herrah reincarnating makes a lot of sense, she's a Wyrm after all.

[opaque sigil]

It's very, very wrong

[split tide]

Ah

[stark estuary]

Also clickbait

[opaque sigil]

Very clickbait

[brittle garnet]

it's not only the video, it's because Mossbag made the connection between that and spiders so a ton of people are regurgitating that as their own opinion

[opaque sigil]

mossbag fans

[stark estuary]

If "Beast's nature" were to refer to a specific entity and not merely the kingdom as a whole then imo, it should refer to the source of The Haunting.

[opaque sigil]

It may

[nimble radish]

makes sense
different species shouldn't be able to have kids

[brittle garnet]

but anyway my wild crackpot headcanon theory is that the plant HB locked in the Citadel created the weavers and was their god but then the citadel people came around and hijacked everything

thanks for listening to my ted talk

[stark estuary]

Why is it a plant

[brittle garnet]

I agree, but I think that this scenario is less likely than if it were to refer to the kingdom itself

[ocean mulch]

depends on the chromosome count

[opaque sigil]

It can refer to multiple things

[ocean mulch]

and gene compatibility

[opaque sigil]

It can be directly addressed to the kingdom but reference other things as well

[high hedge]

The Pale King can clearly breed with anything

That’s why Zote exists

[stark estuary]

Zote is the child of PK and WL tho

[opaque sigil]

Different species can't have kids that can have kids

[brittle garnet]

that is possible, yeah

[high hedge]

A drunken fling with the Flukemarm actually

[stark estuary]

Well that's certainly true. For Vessels at least. Idk about Hornet.

[serene chasm]

Why are we doing shitty lore

[opaque sigil]

And we probably never will know whether Hornet can have offspring

[stark estuary]

I believe that is for the better

[opaque sigil]

Probably

[nimble radish]

that's for closely related species
herrah would be very close to a wyrm

[brittle garnet]

it's because some people can't stop themselves from shitposting and derailing an actual conversation, am I right @high hedge ?

[opaque sigil]

It's for all species.

[high hedge]

Why target me specifically wha-

[brittle garnet]

because you brought up Zote

[high hedge]

Zote is always relevant

[opaque sigil]

Not being able to reproduce is failure to produce a fertile offspring

[stark estuary]

A species is defined as that, yes, but Lori is right in saying that it's only closely related species that are able to produce offspring at all.

[brittle garnet]

if you read my theory doc you'd know

[nimble radish]

but they did reproduce

[ripe grotto]

Why would Herrah be a Wyrm

[opaque sigil]

But Hornet may not be able to have children of her own

[nimble radish]

and?

[stark estuary]

Because we said so

[serene chasm]

It's a silly bug game. Why are we bringing up genetics

[brittle garnet]

if a worm could make children with a Tree, I think that HB's might operate on different rules than normal bugs

[stark estuary]

We're not serious, if you couldn't tell.

[high hedge]

Because clearly we need to see Hornet reproduce

[nimble radish]

she's a female wyrm

[opaque sigil]

And that's how they would be different species and still able to reproduce

[cerulean tree]

waddup

[nimble radish]

but they'd still be closely related species

[serene chasm]

It's sometimes hard to tell with some people around here.

[ripe grotto]

A lot of bugs are similar to PK, so you can guess he's like an ancient progenitor (?)

[nimble radish]

no it's only kirb

[stark estuary]

Throwing me under the bus

[brittle garnet]

inb4 we find out that every bug is a descendant of like 2 primordial HBs

[nimble radish]

two wyrms

[stark estuary]

In the beginning, there were two wyrms-

[cerulean tree]

so canonically how old is hornet

[opaque sigil]

Moths

[nimble radish]

like twelve

[stark estuary]

Older than your mother (not actually, WL is older than Hornet)

[ripe grotto]

More than 5 years old

[cerulean tree]

twelve year olds should not be throwing with needles, bad parenting

[sinful flare]

At least a few seconds old

[brittle garnet]

i don't know what this is supposed to mean

[sinful flare]

This is why we call PK a bad person. You see

[opaque sigil]

Not descended from a primordial HB

[cerulean tree]

not the dead children, but the needle throwing

[stark estuary]

More like no parenting

[nimble radish]

builds character

[ripe grotto]

Technically Spiders were looking after Hornet. Not pk

[stark estuary]

What the fuck, PK slander in ss-discussion, again?

[sinful flare]

Wow you get it

[ripe grotto]

I meant weavers

[brittle garnet]

how do you know Radiance isn't primordial

[trim estuary]

PK is the jerk

[high hedge]

The PK was just burying his children in void, like a good father

[stark estuary]

[trim estuary]

She’s not a slug

[cerulean tree]

based father

[coarse leaf]

i looove pale king

[ripe grotto]

Unluckily pk is my fav character

[sinful flare]

I hate pk he lets hornet use needle he's such a bad person ..

[stark estuary]

Thank you

[nimble radish]

builds charcter

[opaque sigil]

Referring back to the original thing about two progenitors, Rad prob isn't one since she isn't physical, and moths definitely aren't related to other bugs because Rad just popped 'em into existence

[stark estuary]

Me too

[cerulean tree]

i know right

[ripe grotto]

I really hope he gets a mention or something like that in Silksong

[brittle garnet]

true, but I meant like, normal bug species who weren't literally dreamed into existance

[stark estuary]

Radiance used to be physical she was forced to ascend and take on a dream form after the battle with SL and AC.

[brittle garnet]

like the mundane run of the mill bugs you see everywhere

[cerulean tree]

relatable

[ripe grotto]

Greenpath was born from Unn's dreams, so I guess you can create things from dreams

[opaque sigil]

ngl it would've been really cool to actually see Unn's dream instead of just its shadow

[stark estuary]

That's why she calls TK her "ANCIENT ENEMY", it's a reference to the Void War against Blackwyrm.

[trim estuary]

She fought the Air Conditioning?

[nimble radish]

no you can't that's propaganda

higher beings are just regular bugs mostly
rad has powers, none of the others do though

[stark estuary]

Yeah exactly

[cerulean tree]

you can make your dreams come true

[ripe grotto]

Why, it's not like everything written on lore tablets is propaganda

[stark estuary]

And before anyone asks, no, looking like a fork is not a power

[nimble radish]

yes it is

[trim estuary]

yes it is

[coarse leaf]

being based is a higher being trait though

[cerulean tree]

i heavily disagree

[stark estuary]

Ok that's enough trolling

[nimble radish]

you think the people writing those didn't have their own agendas? we can't take anything as fact unless we witness it

[trim estuary]

oh yeah? Unn isn’t based

[ripe grotto]

Where is it written, everyone says it is confirmed but I don't know where

[stark estuary]

Unn is pretty based

[cerulean tree]

cringe snail

[trim estuary]

That’s a lot of world building

[stark estuary]

All of the HBs are based actually, except Radiance. Radiance is a big meanie poo poo head.

[brittle garnet]

damn, guess Hornet really is void, then

[trim estuary]

No Radiance just didn’t want to be forgotten so Rad > PK

[ripe grotto]

Poor Unn, she deserved better

[stark estuary]

Skill issue

[cerulean tree]

L cringe snail

[nimble radish]

pk did want to get forgotten

[coarse leaf]

sigma

[cerulean tree]

sigma

[stark estuary]

Actually yes

[trim estuary]

slug*

[nimble radish]

sigma nuts

[cerulean tree]

i simly do not care

[ripe grotto]

Yup! If the infection were to go away, the citizens would still go for PK, not for Rad, probably

[stark estuary]

Well yeah cos Rad would be dead

[brittle garnet]

to be fair, if Radiance really never existed in the physical world, it always bugged me that her statue was built at the top of a high peak under a huge empty sky (cavern?)

[trim estuary]

hehe bugged you

[stark estuary]

RG/CP is just where the moths lived

[neat palm]

Nuts in what tho

[stark estuary]

Those who worshiped Radiance probably went to an isolated place because "hushed whispers"

[ripe grotto]

They could see Rad in their dreams probably

[trim estuary]

They saw people in their dreams too!?

[cerulean tree]

what if the bugs of hallownest were just all schizophrenic

[stark estuary]

They are

[high hedge]

They call that Mass Hysteria

[nimble radish]

actually the knight is an unreliable narrator, everything we see is their delusions

in reality they're just killing random bugs

[cerulean tree]

schizo bug society

[stark estuary]

Well Hunter definitely is, provided he's had a healthy glass of Gulka Venom.

[ripe grotto]

I'm having a vivid horrible flashback of when I argued with a person because they were stating that dragons aren't capable of dreaming other dragons

I forgot to mention that we were talking about dnd

[nimble radish]

dragons aren't real smh

[cerulean tree]

smh my head

[high hedge]

Then explain dragonflies

[cerulean tree]

no they dont

[stark estuary]

Wyrm

[cerulean tree]

Wyrm

[tame widget]

Wyrm

[ripe grotto]

Wyrms are gone tho

[stark estuary]

Oh, I was about to say actually. Io/Asgorath and Bahamut + Tiamat?

[nimble radish]

can dragons imagine dragons