#sk-discussion
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or something like that
"how do you beat pure vessel"
Deal damage and don't get hit
Pure vessel isn't hard
Add objectively to your argument and now I don't want to listen to you anymore
Nkg ain't the hardest, Abs bullshit is the hardest
Massive moss charger is the hard
Obblobles
The hard
Moss charger is tennis while Marmu is ping pong
And don't forget, Xero when you are not paying attention
tbh tiktik if your afk can kill you before you know it, those things are wild
Moss charger is tennis with MMC as the tennis ball and you playing against a wall
no the real tennis agaisnt a wall is normal zotes in eternal ordeal, you can bounce em off the wall and hit them back there its so funny
But TC said to mossbag that the release date was January 2029 
maybe he meant 2920 
Me when IGN

In the subtitles, it was 2009
Who are these chumps?
finally, we have TK's true size
I love how this is named "ARGHH.png"
is there any silksong new
ye... yes of course there is 
Should the hardest boss of the game be the final boss or an optional one
optional imo
optional one
at least, that's how it usually works for me
I like skill caps personally
HK's hardest boss is waiting for the release of Silksong
Radiance is skill capped enough ill say, not everyone is a progamr 
the hardest challenges should be something for people that are really looking forward for those, so stuff designed as side content
tbh i find skill levels really weird because i had more attempts beating marmu than the radiance
Flukemarm>>>The Hollow Knight
Radiance is optional
the radiance isnt really supposed to be that hard cause you should have every upgrades at that time
I'd say the final boss being a real challenge is a good thing
HK couldn't be too hard cuz you have to fight it before the radiance
also yeah its optional cause even if we call it "true ending" THK ending works just fine
I'm kind of disappointed that they said the game would be about the difficulty of Hollow Knight, I personally prefer challenging games
True ending in games just means "the ending that needs certain stuff to happen"
but if there was a checkpoint between the HK and Radiance, that could have allowed TC to make the Hollow Knight harder? 
Interesting question
HK is really chalenging if you do radabsrad all binding
"true" or "golden" endings generally require the most steps to be achieved, but because of that usually feels the most "complete" or "satisfying"
you can't do that tho, there are no bindings in hall of gods
sometimes the game says its. the "true ending" TC said they were all canon
do P5 AB and do absrad no hit
Hope GodHome comes to SS
we know that
purely from a gameplay standpoint
yeah great you get on attempt per hour
hour? if your speedrunning maybe
all endings are canon ofc
but some feels more "complete" because of the tasks required to achieve those
yeah P5 AB takes about an hour
ehhh
at least 1 hour and a half for me
you did it?
depends how much you are cautious
no, only reached phase 2 of absrad
it took me exactly one hour
i meant the general time of my attempts
and for speedrunners it takes a bit more than 30 minutes

i was ready to attempt it again if i "won" a bet during the TGA, but since that never happened, i don't really care anymore 

I died like 9 times on absrad before beating her in P5 AB
damn
nice dude
I fucking hate this boss
ill atrempt EB again once i have enough life force to be consistentally good for 1:30h 
we all hate that boss
i'm unable to be a good gamer for THAT long
i guess the first few panthons are easy, but theres still like... collector in nail binding
good thing they fixed the instant primal aspids shots
im not sure i actually died to them but i died like twice to god tamer cause i finished the fight with 1-2hp
not in my game (which is why i havent even beat nail binding yet btw)
cause i get a bug if i play last update so i gotta take an old one
maybe the patches are still in the beta branch?
oh okay
which means collector has that bug
what's the bug in the last update?
and... 
bruh why copy message link wont work
anyways void rising in phase 4 bug
during nail binding 
oh right
that damn thing
what kinda of Essay your typing @brittle garnet 
to be honest, it really makes sense why the game is taking this long
think of all the little extra content we know about:
A bunch of active tools, upgrades for some of those tools, getting tools from enemies,
Just the fleas; we know the fleas will be in different situations and not just laying on the ground, so they have to implement a unique situations for many, if not all, of the fleas,
Potentially being able to swap Silk Skills; so implementing all the new skills,
Crest abilities which change attacks and healing, so implementing all of the changes,
Collectible items of various types,
all the NPCs with various different functions,
backer dungeons,
bigger map, bigger rooms,
etc.
Now think that all of these have to be placed somewhere in the world and tied in with the game progression, programmed, bugfixed, balanced for edge cases
oh that kind of essay
just like, all of the new little unique systems that weren't in HK
and of course dialogue will be a lot longer because it's a two-way exchange
my brain thought
getting tools from enemies Just the flea
to
getting tools from enemies Just like fleas
wait bruh
Fleas are the only enemy
I'm of a different opinion:
The game is just not taking very long at all
proportionally as everything theres in it yeah...
In comparison to other games, with the amount of content, a 2022 release would be lighting fast
TC are fast
Well, maybe not lighting fast, but fast enough
i mean
it was said multiple times that TC works fast
even with the amount of details they put in
making a masterpiece of a game any % speedrun
I mean, we know it's taking longer than they expected, as Ari stated
even graig expressed a similar opinion
Which is pretty insane, how long did they expect to take?
i can't believe that after a year (let's suppose it is already 31 dec okay lol) without news we don't get ss in 2022
I mean, they work
VERY fast
HK only took as long as it did (about 3-4 years iirc?) because they had to switch to a different engine and learn it from scratch
and it was their first full game
oh yeah true
also they were kinda living on budget
i think at this point, in the case they have a stable game with the core portion of the game pretty much done, they could focus on side stuff to expand it further at a reasonable amount of time
3 years i think, it all started in 2014 and released in 2017
they worked on it for a bit before that, i think like 1 year?
that's what they do, expand the game
i mean, beyond their intial plans
well i only know that some kind of updates began in 2014, i only got into hollow knight like 2020-2021 winter sadly
well, we know their design method, they talked about it after HK released
the "controlled scope creep" means that they eventually get to a point where they have a finished product, and just keep adding onto it, but at any time they can just stop, wrap it up and release it
oh, a newcomer
so I kinda think they are at that point currently
well kinda but i still have almost everything finished except charm binding in p5 
release is just a matter of when they wanna stop adding more content
Yeah the finished product can already be released it's just the new additions
Maybe they're trying to cram so much stuff in because they know they won't do anything HK for some time after SS :,)
start of 2021 isnt that new ||(dont ask when i started playing hk)||
i think that would explain why Graig believed that
I got into hollow knight during hidden dreams
i think it still is ||when did you start hk||
also that, maybe, yeah
but also having a stable game with a well defined structure of it's gameplay and progression, i guess that could also help building more content efficiently
i think i got into HK a bit before Hidden Dreams was out
Do whatever you want with this emote.
I just think it's weird how we see so many jokes about "3034 release" considering how long we've been waiting; not very long
best SS player, right?
graig will record a black screen transition 
he is the first ||and only lol|| ss speedrunner after all
yall typing essays
also from Graig's statement as only his opinion, it could be the case that he hasn't playtested the game in a while?
Graig would cheese a boss
Graig I will challenge your title
the release trailer will consist entirely of hornet walking
in a room full of nothing, for like 5 minutes, and then release date on random timecode in corner for a split second
...maybe?
he's working on his game after all
@ Graig we need answers.
he's not the only playtester for SS
oh huh? other ones are just not in this discord?
lets be honest of graig record the trailer it'll just be him hitting on ballow's head for 5min straight as bell daughter is laugthing
Simo and Benji playtest
oh cool, didn't know simo and benji playtested the game too, thanks
long story short was
they played the game, thought it was cool, created the server, TC notices them, notices theyre also from Australia, goes on a meetup with them and pretty much outright said "Hey since you guys own the server you guys also our playtesters now! thanks :)"
huh, neat
wow i want to go to australia
likes iirc they werent even given a while to think about it
like it was pretty much outright promoted on spot on 2 randos they met on some fast food restaurant
interesting playtester hiring i see
oh hey, as long as it works
time to create a silksong server and playtest fearless fox 
gotta move to australia tho
ight imma go create hk server and become playtester

that's how it works right?
nono this is the official HK sevr, imma make an official Silksong serv 

silksong is also hollow knight
cause this sevrer's name is "Hollow knight" and not "Silksong", (also nobody reads the description)
once TC makes non-hk games will there be a new channel category or something
time to create fearless fox serv and laytest hollow knight 3
nah, better Idea, create a perfect clone of graig, and have him pretend to be the real one and give you the playtest codes or whatever he has to access the game
flawless plan
i wonder if admins have urge to give their playtesting ss copy to their friend or something
Wow suddently i wanna be friend with benji and simo 
From the creators of Cyber Ari, we present to you: Clone Graig
um @ Admins can we make this happen đł
Damnnn this Wilbo clone we made too wideeee
Hows going, mentally insane ss chat
hum #sk-discussion has changed a bit since last time i went there... 
Ah
totally not just a bug where we see HK disc stuff while im in dms
What the hell happened
actually whatever was going on in this screen is probably less insane than whats going on in this channel
how old is dis
i think i took the pic friday but forgot to send it then
20 years
how does that matter anyways what seems to be on the channel is actually just a group but disc took a min to load the usual DM stuff so it looked like it was in this channel
I wanted to know the historic date of this 
What in the goddamn are you talking about people?
No
They had a big dinner
fukin nerds
I have no idea who took the photo
Its that a HK reference? /jk
The one in the mirror
is that graig at the lower left
yeah
It's beautiful
A table full of people who know how silksong is going & how far or near the end of development is
simo got that rolex
is this a FUCKING ari gibson reference?!
No, he is Ari Gibson
is dat benji and simo
Yes they're there
But Benji lost weight since then
Benji posted it when we had a nice chat about team cherry and Hollow Knight and Silksong in the Cerulean server which is the game he's developing check it out
I have no idea which one is Benji
Above graig
where benji face emote
he benji?
that's cool!
I always thought Benji was a girl 
WHY
The girl in his PFP is the character in his game
bro
Benji has agame??

anime girl pfp = girl irl 
yes
Water you're a cat IRL right?
Selfieeeeeee
pfps obviously reflect you irl im a hat ofc
that's how it works right?
woah what's this all about? what did i miss?
If you make your PFP William you will be teleported to Adelaide and you can play silksong
one sec
Nothing I'm leaking months old convos 
gonna change my pfp to joe biden and nuke mongolia
Any news?
No
No
Hello random hollow knight enjoyer
Hi random december division
so um is that better?
you bastards lied to me!
you live in Russia?
He does now.
no i got teleported from australia to russia yep
when silksong?

never
when silksong?
Close to what?
Silksong
Awww i love this pic so much
man i hit my 3000th ss discussion message at TGA, now im already at 5k in 3 messages 
so guys last time i sent my
for my 3000th message, but i didnt had time to make the sherma gun one until then so
i got the next best thing... 
ITS ABOUT DRIVE ITS ABOUT POWER
ikr


Its about silksong
Ok
next best thing to sherma gun emote ig
đ
We stay hungry, we devour!
Canât wait for The Rock to play The Hollow Knight in Hollow Knight live action
Same

"The real Hallownest was the friend we made along the way"
Chris Pratt plays Hornet
Nah. Natalie Portman for Hornet

yeah
i'm so skeptical about ss that i can't believe i will play it one day 
scarlett johanson plays hornet
i play hornet
I get that people are skeptical about him doing the Mario movie and all but maybe give the guy a chance, who knows he might surprise you
true
ss is so late i got a pc
i haven't WOO WOO SILKSONG UPDATE ON GOGDB WOO WOO for a long time
Is the one closest to the camera on the right Simo?
the. hell.
-_-
damn, what's happening at GOG that all their DB entries are being updated every day
well if you check other games on gogdb you can see that majority of games were updated almost at that time - 15:30-16:00 in my timezone, that's weird
I guess it's a GOG thing
99% of the time, those updates are just boring metadata stuff, like genre tags
weird that like, every game's entry is being updated, though
also weird that tags update everyday
Or they are working on some internal systems. Boring stuff
any hollow knight fans in this server
na hk is overrated imo ||/j||
yes what did you expact jj abrams fans
can i eat a cat
who
Say what now
can i eat cat because i'm hungery
whats that
Question. If silksong was never supposed to release near 2019 why did Nintendo say so much stuff like coming soon and Tc are working hard wrapping up the game back in 2019?. Like what happened did TC just say nothing about the release or what?
well the outcome would be speculation screaming crying rioting and last but least playing the game along with cussing at nintendo for the crap they do
yeah, basically Nintendo guessed
or misinterpreted something
It was a bad guess 
But surely the game is taking longer than TC expected right?
yes, Ari said so in August to a fan they met in a cafe
Coming Soon doesnt mean much, steam wishlist says coming soon for every game.
More than likely the Nintendo hosts made assumptions about the games development from the info they had. Kinda like we do all the time.
Its also possible that TC had plans to release the game earlier, but decided against doing so to add more to the game
As Graig said, Silksong was supposed to be out by now, but Team Cherry keep adding new stuffs
Ah ok thanks
I really cross my fingers for Silksong early 2022
I'm not crossing any fingers but I'm hoping
I would prefer a march or April release, I wonât have much time before
I mean, whatever, tbh
I got RoR2 DLC in Q1 so if it doesn't release then I'll be occupied anyway
and Rise on PC, too
Nice try everything on GoG was updated on the same day even games that are already out
I think they know, it was meant to be a joke
Jokes?! in #sk-discussion
@ mods! Ban this heathen!
Hornt void

this isn't #hk-lore
no one believes you, but nice try
@chrome hazel
saai


:dabultra:
bruh
Really?
I saw
With two mods in chat?
tfoe
punk
john wick, he's efficient and lean, proficient professional killing machine

Dude
Heâs off topic and itâs gif spam
Stop random meme posting
its off topic no one cares

Ok
laughed so much at that joke
Wait didnât we already accept that
call the emoji police
Radiance is a moth
Theyâre female
pure light
that was a grammatically correct sentence bud
why do they have to have a gender lmao
dang it man i'm hungery i need to frucking EAT
grammarly
or in your case, a âgrammaticaâ correct sentence
Well, itâs what Team Cherry said so 
bug
wait really? i wasn't aware, my bad
oh boy
Nah no worries
2 + 3 = 6
:/
tf
Flukemarm commit mitosis
don't be suspicions on me
đ§Ż
grammatica, grammaticorum, grammaticis, grammatica, grammaticis, grammatica
Thought: Team Cherry arenât rushing silksong, because many people are still buying hollow knight. If the sales are up there is no need to release a new product
what is this why i cant write correct
that doesnât make much sense
What incident happened here as to make 2+3=6?
that would just
i mean haven't they sold like 1.5 million copies?
Give them more money on release of silksong
Nah you can't really live forever on that I don't think
That would be an overall bad idea
Itâs literally one of the highest most anticipated games
that's a Lot of money, regardless of sales, they're just making it the best it can be
2.5
yeah LMAO 2.5*15 = 30 MILLION dollars
They keep adding stuff to Silksong, so they won't have to make DLCs afterwards
the numbers haven't been updated in a while so the sales are probably much higher by now
that's no small amount, you can live on that really comfortably for a long time lol
Yeah but if you just bought hollow knight, you wouldnât buy silksong before you finished the game?
I estimate silksong in Q2-Q3 2022, maaaybe Q1 but doubt it
they might if the game is cheap
i'm hoping for a feb 2022 release myself
and again
personally, I've just got 112% today
Idk, Iâm just seeing a lot of new content creators playing the game for the first time
same
Silksong is consistently top 5 out of the most anticipated games of all time
hey guys who wants to eat a cat
Donât we all
Same
and yeah moistcrikital just started hk
Eh. Like 2 speedrunners
i don't think people will hold off on buying silksong because they're not done with hk
As did a few other content creators
I say 2023
that's just not. as a content creator that's not a decision you make LOL
the longer they wait the more people just stop waiting for silksong and move on
hype is slowly passing through
*the games are meant to be enjoyable independently (according to Tc)
exactly
They can just buy Silksong after they finished Hollow Knight
also very true
I would finish HK before I played silksong if I hadnât completed it already
they're guaranteed like 150k sales in what, the first day alone? they're not too fussed about 3-4k holding off for personal reasons
Ok, but could it be considered a reason or do you think it is marginal
marginal imo
Its literally fine if they released ss in 2023
Imagine a large game launched and on some way a weird glitch or something break the game that's literally can ruin the game
I mean bugs are expected but like they need to perfect it since its have a huge reputation
cyberpunk :KEKW:
they have plenty of playtesters
I don't think you can compare that number on this community
HK was already insanely buggy at launch
hehe bug
Iâd assume theyâre trying to not repeat that
exactly
Appropriate choice of reaction! Absrad was the buggiest

bro I'm starting to think we won't get a blogpost this year as well đ
lol we wont
do not lose hope until 31st December 11:59 PM
gonna remind you of this message after we get that sweet christmas blogpost
the December Division shall triumph
and if not, we simply rename ourselves until said triumph
Ofc bugs are expected every character is probably gonna be a bug
hi everyone
Salut Slaz 

Doing good
how are you today
doing alright, just came back from a walk
banned forever
also hi unqnue .... .... ...
banned forever too...
Ay slazac the hungry knight guy
Hello, fellow Hollow Knight: Silksong anticipators!
Hello everyone, I'm back, how are you guys?
Everyone is dead
Dang, anyways, now that this channel is dead, I'm going to have a deep and personal conversation with myself
I sacrificed everyone to get Silksong faster, but apparently Team Cherry doesn't condone that, so now the game wont release
Oh, I hope everyone who was sacrificed can recover from being... You know... Sacrificed, I hate being sacrificed, always happens to me.
hey guys would eat a cat or a very large white wyrm that would eat you in a single bite and would leave you to die for ever never seeing there family since they just got eating by a wrym
what
do you ever run into a problem with your creative projects where you spend too much time tweaking the same page, unable to finalize it and move on, entering a state of stagnation where the words you once felt attached to become an unrecognizeable wash of random sentences you don't know if are good or bad anymore
td;lr would you eat a cat or a large white wyrm
I think I would eat a wyrm, they're probably just worms, but a bit bigger
the hollow knight bugs are actually slightly larger than human size, so a worm would be skyscraper-sized
Same, well, kinda.
the true topic of life
So a wyrm is just The Destroyer of Worlds from terraria? Huh, neat
I mean i died in dst a couple times
I want to play Rimworld, but I'm too lazy to actually play any game right now
Also, I love how #sk-discussion is just a third "Off-Topic"
i STILL haven't played echoes of the eye
play it, so good
unfortunately in that place where any time i try to take time to play games or watch tv it feels like a huge time sink when i have work i still have to catch up on, so instead when i procrastinate i just burn hours on like, shitty io games on my laptop

have....to catch up on work......
I just waste my time, thinking, "Huh, I want to play a game...", and I repeat that 20 more times, until it's almost midnight
Really wish TC would pick up some slack and make a good videogame for once
They canât keep riding on the success of hungry knight
True
True, Hungry Knight is legit top tier
mods can we have a channel for hungry knight

Hungry Knight is the Dark Souls of Team Cherry's games
hungry knight is the dark souls of eating food
Nobody plays io games unless theyâre procrastinating
Be honest, what are you putting off by replying to this message
Hungry Knight is the best survival game ever made, heck, It deserves to be the game of the century
should be on steam for 60$
and instantly get every steam award
90$
120
Hollow Knight is just a cheap sequel that TC made just for money, Hungry Knight is a masterpiece, and a shame that the sequel is inferior, in every way
What the fuck are you doing on agar.io at this point of the century
actually nonono
hungry knight should be free so that everybody can truly witness the beauty of hungry knight
Oh, thatâs actually one of the better ones but still
Hungry Knight for Games Olympics!
Truuueee, everyone should play Hungry Knight
no mans life is complete without a hungry knight any% speedrun
the only good .io games were diep and deeeep
deeeep is still going strong, diep is unplayable
Hungry Knight has a beautiful story, and a groundbreaking lore, it doesn't has too many characters, but that's the charm of the game, the dialogue, while it's not very present, it's perfect in every single way, it makes you truly feel like a Knight who is Hungry
8/10 too much food
It's getting close to the end of December with no news, I'm worried we aren't even gonna get a holiday update
That's just IGN score, true gaming jornalists and reviewers will score Hungry Knight as a 11/10
12/10
Ok, how about we make it an 15/10
Omg, Tom Holland as Hungry Knight themselves
chris pratt voice hungry knight
zombs royale says hi
three large commission orders, one of which has a strict deadline by the 15th and involves four more pieces i haven't started yet
petition to change the hollow knight discord into the hungry knight discord
I want a Hungry Knight remake Team Cherry, when will it happen??!
Honestly not a bad April fools idea.
It is impossible to measure the greatness and sheer power of hungry knight with mortal numerals, we are simply unable to comprehend the greatness of this masterpiece
So... Hungry Knight's real score is Googol/10?
there was a french HK server who did this for april fool
Again, our mortal numerals cannot comprehend its true greatness
God damm, Hungry Knight is just a gift that God sent to us then, wait, It all makes sense... Ari Gibson is God
1/0
Let's say I measure hungry knights greatness im kelvin, the colder the greater the game is.
The correct rating would be -1/0
That's just a Crime, and I'm not joking, if you don't bow to grimm, there is a chance that the police will arrest you
They are the higher beings
i mean we got the edge article at literally the end of december
What if i use abyss shriek while Grimm bows?
in silksong we want to ascend to become a higher being, we must replace another though, the final boss is a png of ari'a head
I just Imagine now a Pantheon of Game Devs, first there is Team Cherry, and then there is Toby Fox, etc
I do find it funny that TC actually punishes disrespecting Grimm's bow with a pufferfish attack
And then at the end its everyone at once plus the true God of gods
DONT MESS WITH US HUNGRY KNIGHT FANS
WE CAN EAT APPLES
n o when are you going to have a pfp
And revive skeletons
Now that I think about it, Hungry Knight literally could stop the infection in just 10 minutes, they would literally eat the infection, like it's nothing
how the f- do people beat failed champion đ
Precept 56 do not dream
Hmmm
When I find a good one?
You know what, I'm going to get a pfpf once silksong comes out.
I did it first try, honestly, it's pretty easy
doubt
Yeah he's not too hard
go ti #hk-discussion my friend they'l help you there also i never gotten to that boss
I'm serious, and well, okay, I had late game stats, but it's still pretty easy
Stagger exploit, get full health and soul every time it gets knocked down
u don't get soul from hitting it
But you do from dream nailing it
you get soul from dreamnailign and from hitting the maggot inside
it's the dream thing btw
Failed champion is chump change
dream nail
You get from hitting the maggot while he's down, and dream nail
đ
wha- that thing takes 4 seconds to charge or something
when fc gets staggered just dreamnail > armour pogo > dreamnaill > pogo repeat
and
the guy finishes me in that time lol
But also, why in ss-disc
well because I'm not asking for help
if you can learn 1 phase you can obliterate him since you start with full soul at the start of "phase" 2 and 3
You literally did ask for our help
when
Either way, not about SS
i did failed champ 3rd or 4th try
idek what ss is
surprisingly predictable
weve been talking about hungry knight and
bowing before this
This literallly means that you don't know how to beat it, you just asked, and that means that you need some help
i get comboed into oblivion in 10 seconds
dodge
đ
and what would it be named #hk-discussion or what? ||/j||
and ur supposed to actually use dreamnail? that will be guaranteed health loss
You aren't supposed to, it's a cheese
only use dreamnail during the stagger
call it # hgk-discussion
since you can repeat the timer for infinity
don't think I've gotten to that part yet 

that emote haunts my dreams 
consider dodging ig
Honestly I don't even know how did I even survived Failed Champion, while it wasn't that bad, I remember almost pissing my pants each time he attacked
last phase gave me a heart attack
you get plenty of time to slap him since you can dash under him when he jump attacks
the only tactic I have is stick to the wall, eventually touch him, and die
10 days left in december đ¨
Just make yourself play aggressively and eventually you'll get better at it
ofc fc is going to wwe slamdown you if your staying near a wall 24/7
well my first try wasn't like that, after fighting him for the first time that seems like the best, and only, strategy 
Just dodge the attacks, and each time he jumps, just dash to the other side
Use Sharp Shadow 
stay half between fc and the wall so you can dash under when he jumps but still have time for the shockwave dodging
also what charms r u using
OHHHHH u can go under him loll I'm so stupid
I remember unironically using sharp shadow in my first playthrough, but then I got to queen's garden, and I realized how bad it actually is
quick slash, mark of pride
just that?
I use Sharp Shadow in every build 
But.... TL is like the only time it's actually good 
yep, if u count compass and gathering as a charm I should include then 
Tbh I've used Sharp Shadow so much that not having it throws me off because the dash change
do you not have fragile or unbreakable charms
only fragile ones
Just take these off, and use something better
Fragile charms don't break in the dream world
im not good at charm builds tho ud have to ask someone not as stupid
go to #hk-discussion
Personally I'd use MoP and Fragile Strength for how your playstyle sounds
MoP?
Good distance and boosted damage
Me too, I just remember using quickslash, mark of pride, and I think grimmchild
mark of pride
Oh and Dash master
grimmchild 
I'll use strength and quickslash because it'll be over faster
glimild
should I use strength, heart and quickslash?
honestly, I can't play withouth mark of pride, it just changes how you fight normally, and the normal attack lenght is pretty short
mark of pride will make fc easier to hit
quickslash will be more dps but with the regular nail size
if u struggle with hitting fc u should probably use strength + mop
well I can do it without mop but I just have to get under him every time he jumps
how many stagger moments are there 
probably 4 or 3
Really?
he fell down, is it over I'm on 2 health
oooh
ok yeah when I realised I should go under it when it jumps it wasn't that hard
also this basically turned into a #hk-help session I'm sorry I will leave now
I also used sharp shadow against TL first time
Don't worry dude, It was fun helping you lmao
And ss-discussion never keeps on topic
now imma find the rest of the essence freaks 
Yesterday they where talking about zelda
One day i got in the channel and the topic was cookies
true, the last time I was in this channel, we were talking about foods in general
yeah its not a big deal
basically a hangout spot
until the big game is actually out
Yo guys haven't been here a lot of time. Have we got something new? đ
?sspsa
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Not yet
Probably not
11ish days till we have 1 year with no news 
@opaque sigil why not? it will be released at February 
Because TC is probably on vacation at this point
@opaque sigil that's why i said before holidays
They will be on vacation until and presumably following the holidays
I wish to have the same holidays đ
Ok, I'll be the oracle here now, there will be Silksong news in the 25th of december
Usually faux prophets know to put their predictions a good while out but you do you 
TC vacation is several days long (per their blogpost). They'll be back at it before year's end 
Why are you pinging people
So I was doing some math cause I'm bored, and I figured out that SS has been in development for 80% longer than HK was.
Wait, really?
They started silksong's development a few weeks after Godmaster
they started full development a few weeks after Godmaster
No. I included the date they gave for when they first began brainstorming the game. I also did that for HK (which was first being brainstormed roughly June 2014)
they started doing something immediately after HK release
That's a bad way to do it
I wouldn't count it like that
So does that mean Fearless Fox is already in development?
It's impossible to know when they fully began developing HK or SS. I couldn't use those statistics.
If ppl are currently being paid to work on it then yes 
Well, I'm brainstorming my own game, but that doesn't mean that It's anywhere near close to development, hell, it may take 8 years because I can't even program or do art, that's not how you do it man.
HK was like mid 2014 to mid 2018
.
.
Hollow Knight was released in 2017, and it was completed in 2018
So should prob be 3.5 unless they did a lot of godmaster fixes
Released early 2017 and completed in 2018
Oooh okay, sorry
Which is like half a year more than we've been waiting. Probably was the time when they made most of the stuff for the trailer and demo.
Probably
Again I don't know when HK began full development. I do know when they started development at all (Mid 2014 -> early 2017). If I had knowledge of when they began full-time development I'd use that instead. Besides this is all just for fun.
Mayhaps
But the year count is still off by one 
Is taking into account how long hollow knight took to complete even a good idea based on budget differences and time available?
Unless there was a year of work on godmaster post-release which is maybe possible but it's a lot
It is most definitely not
Alright
We're almost in 2022 though
We're at the end of 2021
you could do 2021.9 - 2.5
2021.9-2.5 = 2019.4
I can't believe TC started developing silksong after the demo smh lazy devs
Exactly, that's why I say the number seems off 
ye it's because Graig was approximating
Damn đ
he corrected himself that he meant "since Godmaster"
Going by Graig's explicit method of determination (ie "since godmaster,") it would be since 2018.5, closer to 3.5
I know what Graig was trying to get at, but even since the initial reveal it's been more like 3ish years. And when they showed off the trailer for SS compare that to the first trailer for HK. Massive difference, which means they were developing it prior as well.
Silkson began development 2 thousand years ago, the one you call Ari Gibson is actually Jesus
They had a half a year prior to the trailer
Yes, I know 
it's been in development for like 3.3 years
that's full development tho
yes
probably was in partial dev since 2017
yeah, we know that
You wanna know what else was in partial development since 2017?
Same could be said of their next game
MY MOM!
no tell me
"The sequel to the legend of Zelda: breath of the wild"â˘
Lol
Yeah my math included HK's planning and development phase and SS' planning and development phase. If you take them both into account it's crazy (in a good way) for how long it's been worked on.
Iâll bamboozle your face
:wtff . ....
sus joker
Sussy baka
yeah đ
Thanos moment
btw since we were talking about development look at this really old HK trailer 
https://youtu.be/Y2amTl5lBYM
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i won't invite you to my dst lobby
Coward.
HK trailers were all over the place
Kill them all.
He will also kill you, IDIOT!!!
Yes, and the varying levels/forms of quality and content between each iteration of the trailer 
It's almost like TC had no idea what the final game was going to look like going in 
Maybe theyâre gonna learn their lesson and develop their vision to be presentable to a wider audience for the next game
It's almost like... Uhh, game beginning, later complete... Idk, I never created a game
That's exactly what was going on
to appeal to a wider audience, hollow knight: silksong will no longer feature violence and be free to play
buy dlc pack for 15 dollars
Silknite
It will also be a gacha game, and it will have skins
buy epic hats and open crates
They first aimed for the game to be shorter, like around 3-4 hours long, but the game expanded as it was developing.
WhatâŚ? They first didnât even make it a game lol
good move, making the game appealing to 5 year olds đ
Joycons are connected to wallets
Now this reminds of me of Don't Starve, it was originally going to be a pay to win game, and it would be a mobile game, fortunately, the devs realized that creating that would suck, so they just decided to make a good game
isnt pay to win dont starve just real life?
now with lootboxes and seasons! season 1 featuring ogrim skin for hornet and a brand new sugondese crest!
woke
it's pretty depressing how people remember leth more than jack vine whos literally the programmer
Imagine reaching a new area in silksong and you get a pop-up asking for money.
Can Silksong be considered an open world game? like, I get it's a metroidvania, but I just want to make a super funny joke about Genshin Impact and Silksong
Despite its presumable nonlinearity, I'd say no
I mean, it's pretty understandable
Jack Vine doesn't interact with the community like, ever
well why not, it has a vast world and it's pretty open 
Gosh Darnit, well, guess the joke was never meant to be...
I mean you can still make the joke
I had no joke to begin with, that was the joke lmao
hmm, now that I think about it, what is defined as "Open World"?
I mean, HK is pretty open world.
the only thing william and ari did in the last few years to interact with the community is william posting the đ emoji tho
a world that is open
woah where can i find this message?
You donât progress though locked liner segments, and if you do, you choose the order
It's open world in that the progression path has many, many permutations, but the world itself is pretty closed
search by user
i want to kick author's balls so much rn ||no offence for sure||
It looked so real ugh
Yeah, but like, the world is still extremely freely explorable. There functionally one map which contains 95% of the game
do you know william's discord name?
Yes but compare it to other open world games, where the bulk of if not the entirety of the world is accessible from the start
just look for wilbo
thanks 
wide wilbo
so pissed abt this
I dont think that necessarily defines open world, but I see your point.
wide enemy wilbo
literally tho
Nor I, but I do think it's reasonable to distinguish the two approaches
almost 2015 and they released HK at early 2017. 2 years but they did so much. Now we have SS which looks already awesome at 2019 and here we are in 2022 đ
any new ss release date speculations?
now that's some fucking community interaction

DANG IT'S ALREADY BEEN A YEAR SINCE THE "đ"
how time flies
Calling open world games games with lack of map progression isnât necessarily fair is all I have to say. But yes, both are distinct approaches
silksong news at " đ " anniversary ?
đ is going to be the final boss of Silksong (CONFIRMED)
Yeah that isn't exactly how I'd define it but tired so brain bad and words not come to describe better
2021 was one of those boring years you literally almost don't remember anything about
for some people
Youâre not wrong though, BotW has the final boss door literally wide open.
i myself find 2021 a very memorable year
I just want a meme where when Hornet falls into the Moss Grotto, sans just appears and says "How was the fall"
Ofc I'm not the spokesperson of the solar system
https://youtu.be/C-9jSiBH9m0 no way
more slazac
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open world has a very specific connotation
but why
Kris where are we
french
đ
would she really attack her own child
It do be funny
packing up my clown suit for the year, whenâs the next time to pull it out? e3?
fair enough
December 2021
jk unless 
mylo go hibernate
I would stop being French if Paris finally decided to become Independant
đ¤
let's all start clowning on 31 dec because of đ
"Slazaque"
my bday on 31 dec
I'm perpetually clowning
Are there people who want paris to become independent?
no?
Isn't paris the capital?
except a couple of lunatics
I saw an article about it once but there was a paywall
How would a capital city becoming independent even work
some people want the monarchy back anyway
They weren't really arguing for it but imagining this scenario
Paris is the capital right?
bring back the guillotine
One of my history teacher had a tie with the  fleur de lys  one of the many symbols of royalty
yes gold star on the geography test
pauseshroom
Look sometimes I forget capitals ok
hope i host daily silksong news 
Who wouldnât ?
It's happened before here
Yeah people with fleur de lys in their Twitter handle are all monarchists
Actual monarchists exist?
Is that an actual movement
Yes it is
Unbelievable
Like a significant one
this is depressing btw
Yeah a lot in france
In France of all places?
And my school being a REALLY Christian traditional school is full of monarchist
Actually monarchism is probably less stupid than the shit the US has going on so I can't really judge 
holy shit that's like 3 years 
Monarchism is close to the peak of stupid I think
Have you seen tf2
We're close
Tommorows the 1040 milestone for days with no silksong
There's like 720 days between the HK release and the silksong trailer
how is monarchism related to shit happening in us 
Conspiracy theorists took over one of the US' two major political parties
That's peak stupid
2.8 years currently since release
i dont know why but it aint depressing unless i really think about it
People here complain about aggressiveness between the "sides". But it's not as bad as the US, never as bad as the US
Half of the american government has been actively fighting to stop anti-covid measures
That's peak stupid
oh:zot
I love how you didnât mention which one, some might think you were actually talking about republicans like smhsmhsmh
Thank god I live in the uk then
the r/monarchism subreddit sure is an interesting place
You can find anything on Reddit
im very safely assuming that royalist groups are led by either very religious or far right people so i think it's at least as bad
I will accept that both are superlatively stupid
How are people turning this radical
No more than as always I think
look at these bitches thinking living under total monarchy was great
Misinformation spreading through internet and whatnot is a part of it
Well the thing with the us, is that 48% of voters are in the extremist party, not so much with monarchy
Tf is going on ?
Why people discuss monarchism ?
Ayo what kind of ss are we discussing here
I know what la France is
We were radicalized before
And politiques and l'histoire wow I'm fluent
ss-discussion users explaining how monarchism relates to team cherry's upcoming video game silksong:
no understand baguette 
Well hornet is royalty
La monarchie Sonia give me french language diploma
I now know more french than hollow knight translators
when france had monarchy we were less technologically advanced than now, therefore it is bad
like you can see from their site they're just another far right group in disguise anyway
Fascists are gonna be fascists ig 
It also includes something about tonnels
hey i wanna join this discussion
Ew i'm surrounded by french
đŤđˇ đĽ đĽ
đ
đ
Prince chrĂŠtiens et immigration islamique, that is an incredible title
Monarchy is bad because not only is it not democratic, those who rule are chosen hereditarily, which is even worse than however dictatorships get their rulers
The hell is Islamization
Well now some people would tell you how monarchy was actually democratic cuz they had like, 3 parlement doing nothing
Not probably, it is
If they're anything like they are in the US
It's so funny when people start saying that immigrants will literally be the cause of mass extinction
Of natives
woo politics woo
In democracy nothing should ever be hereditary
whatâs wrong with you all
Who started
alright fine joker
Aight enough ss-discussion for this year
let's talk about silksong
Becoming Islamic, so like a radicalisation of musulim
Let's talk about the monarchism movement in pharloom
how dare you have a political conversation without ME
lets talk about... hornet đł
Is Pharloom even a monarchy? Seems like it could be an oligarchy imo
Iâm kidding I donât do politics any more
Join the Ant Clan
not really, it's more meant as just islam spreading, not even the radical type
sigh
I'm supposed to study for my exam tomorrow but...
fine fine
Monarchs are useful as a distraction from the actual government since they'll be getting the publicity so the actual government doesn't have to worry as much on public reputation and press
Do you think we'll ever see Silksong on the news on TV?
Well a part of hornet I would like to highlight is that she is royalty
is hallownest then anarchy if there is technically no ruler?
So figureheads 
Not actual monarchs
Like in the uk
The government should have to worry about these things
what would they even report tho? bug game released big deal
Iâll do it
"Weirdos excited over bug game"
Iâll hijack CNN and put Silksong there
I can only think of bad reasons for that to happen ngl 
What does CNN stand for
"how to stop your son from playing this new bug game"
convolutional neural network
"Fans of bug enlightened have started to ascend with gorb"
so since im kinda new.. herrah was the queen of deepnest right? but if shes dead, is hornet the new queen?
Breaking news: people can finally shut up
hornet was born to be queen but i guess deepnest just fell to infection instead
I have no idea
oh wow queen ofâŚ.
a bunch of corpses
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY
wdym theres that one weaver that was running away
The one case where the bastard child is still a heir
waddup
thats already something
Well under french monarchy she wouldnât, cuz she is female
Let's talk about our favorite dst character ..
who left and we never see again
spider guy
(I like imp)
monarchy sexist?? đ¤¨
I wonder if we'll hit 2k
yes well that weaver still have deepnest citizenship or whatever so she is still queen of one alive weaver













