#sk-discussion
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10 year windup time
Tiso’s big nosed brother
That means tiso is void
Of course
“Copium” and “Hopium” is so uncool of a word. It’s like saying “Ratio” 
Void of relevance
yeah, just say cope and hope, whats stopping you?
daym even on reddit they got ratio
Sounds like Silksopium to me
copium
cope
did anyone else think that pharlooms folly might be about hornet? Maybe herrah and the entire spider tribe came from pharloom, after the inhabitants started gathering spider silk in... questionable ways. They went to Hallownest, stayed there for a bit, infection then came around and they returned. The poem might be talking about the stories the weavers and spider tribe told about hornet. (some of the spider tribe would have stayed) sorry about this being off-topic from the current discussion btw
That’s more on topic than this channel usually is
hornet is the daughter of pk so i doubt it
i know right im in awe
the spider tribe was there for a long time before the weavers
I already considered you as uncool, but now you’ve crossed a line I never would have expected you to cross! -5 points, you’re going down on my personal leaderboards!
my thoughts was that the Pharloom's Folly is about the industrialization and that the country will return to being wild
yes... but spider
hopium
spider doesn’t mean weaver
Blocked.
Can’t argue with that logic-
weavers are a specific kind of spider
it doesnt make sense
theres a more specific distinction in the hk universe
ratio
and herrah comes from deepnest
im not saying that hornet was born in pharloom
not somewhere else
When is hollow knight going to release? I wanna play it
clhopium
Never
im saying that herrah might have come from pharloom
tomorrow
Eventually
?hkpsa
She didn’t
🏆
she’s a deepnest native
but how do we know that
i wanna play as that knight with a cape soon, seems cool
some time next year
have you heard of a game called hollow knight
it's theoretically possible that the Deepnest spider tribe came from Pharloom a long time ago
Yeah Silk Knight’s pretty cool
clhopium kinda sounds like clown in a way
i think i have made the word ever
yeah, still in development :c
but they were in Deepnest before PK showed up
?sspsa
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
it is certainly the word
!wiki Herrah
the funny part about ss is that we can talk
i dont care if its a bad theory but it is a theory. Herrah might be 400billion years old for all we know
well hornet can
No! Stop!
It’d be cool to see a fungus that still has mind in Pharloom
well, i can talk too, i dont know about you
nah
sorry then
... not that its likely
what's the point then ?
Caps and shells may fall to dust…
But Mr. Mushroom readjusts…
Us when Silksong:
Just because random stuff could be possible doesn’t mean it’s right
more speculation than a theory
I pray he returns
wild speculation appears
Mr mushroom is the only character I’d like to see return
that the folly might originatte from stories told about hornet when the weavers returned to pharloom, as hornet was born before they left
Wait. HOW many years old? 
didn't TC said he may return ?
Mr. Mushroom is actually Gaster, yes, my dad is Toby Fox, and he works for Team Cherry
400 000 000 000 years old
pretty much said that he WOULD return
I don't see how that makes sense, can you explain it?
The folly is likely addressing the kingdom of Pharloom

so Hornet is born in pharloom that's what you're saying ?
I just don’t think that Herrah comes from Pharloom
the only spiders we see that are pharloomian are the weavers
And herrah looks nothing like one
Maybe Herrah went there on holiday once
Ze’mer comes from France, dummy
the folly was written by romino
Is Herrah even a spider?
I know…?
Of course she is!
Hello silksongers
Romino the Gamer
yeah
who is a weaver
How is it silksonging?
You are
That’s a stretch
and Relic seeker Lemm is spanish
assumption?
yes
who said that romino is a weaver
What is the difference between weavers and actual spiders?
Weavers are a type of spider

i did, let me just find the theory
oh ok
beast isn't really a species
Ogrim is definitely Spanish as well
romino is a weaver (heavily hinted with the fact he knows about pharloom's past and anticipates the coming of the weavers)
the message of the lyric if we can call it that is that weavers are now caged up and being slaves to the kingdom, forgotten by the bugs that live their everyday life in pharloom, and that they WILL come backthis could also hint that while the weavers were away some pk like being (or just average bugs) took over the weaver's abandoned kingdom and built over it
the beast's nature is not to be taken literally, but its actually a metaphor for the kingdom's past (ruled by beasts)
the beast is not a single powerful creature, like herrah, but an entire population of spiders
permission to text-wall my own Folly of Pharloom?
that doesn’t mean…anything?
Hey guys I got your back, I liked one of those instagram posts that said “If you like this post, tomorrow something amazing will happen”
That basically confirms that silksong is coming out tomorrow 
how exactly
Just cuz he knows about pharloom doesn’t make him a weaver
I like how this theory basically starts with “Romino is a weaver because he is”
awesome nice ty
my thoughts are that the poem at the beggining of silksong is actually about hornet, not someone in pharloom. The line "They see your beauty, so frail and fine" mixed with the ferocity expressing it, makes me think of hornet. The weavers might have shared stories about hornet as she is the daughter of Herrah and they would know hornet.
very true but it would feel odd if he was disconnected from the tribe
I think Beast is synonymous for spider
not really
Youre welcome 
especially after he basically wrote "gamers rise up"
“Retweet to make Silksong release right this second.”
I mean, Monomon is fairly disconnected from PK
Guys. Guys. Allow me to settle this.
Conductor Romino is a weaver. Why, you ask?
I said so. End of discussion. Good night to all!
but she isn't slumbering to their knowledge, nobody in Pharloom has seen her for ages
what percentage of the game do you think Silksong is at rn
high percent
Bretta uses it as an insult
Beast is a term in Hollow Knight used to generalize a variety of monstrous intelligent(also maybe unintelligent) bugs, like how there are goblinoids in fantasy
I get the impression that it's more like a slur, honestly
yea, fuck you spider
bretta is racist that doesn't count
monomon's poem directly addressed pk
Could you add 2% to that
bretta is racist confirmed
like "Herrah's just a common beast" is more of a direct insult to the entire spider species
I mean true
"when you wake, i forget but something about power" (part of the poem) might be talking about how hornet is metaphorically asleep, as in away from pharloom and unable to help them
Sure, I have a high degree in mathematics!
76%
Excellent my good sir
one sec
probably 87%
and since the weavers are nothing but silk producers in Pharloom, makes sense that they'd be degraded
97%
romino is either someone that knows a lot about pharloom lore or one that is a direct testimony of its past
somewhere between 0% and 100%
"bound in slumber and servitude" makes sense if Hornet if it's talking about Sealed Siblings
don't want your valuable workers thinking they're worth anything
It’s actually only 20% complete, they dropped Silksong to work on Minecraft 2
100% 😔
Minecraft 2: The Attack of Copyright
Hytale 
Silksong has probably an ending already, and most likely has the Final Boss already in it, Team Cherry are probably just adding more content overall into the game
Also could just be talking about captive weavers producing silk
I still don’t think the weavers would even know anything about Hornet
They are doing a crossover with Terraria adding the Hollow Knight
yeah it could be that
They’re doing a Dead Cells crossover in Silksong
folly says "they see your beauty" while hornet is absolutely ugly
i think this disproves your theory
Wait, which weavers Joker? Hornet was raised by them no?
the idea already latches onto the shaky thought that Herrah comes from Pharloom, which isn’t really hinted at
I definitely don't think it's about Hornet, because how is forgetting about Hornet a thing the kingdom could do
and Pharloom’s Folly was probably written a while ago
wrong reply
I mean, they raised her, so that could work
what if there were a queen, & she died, & they talk about her
Actually true right here
I mean the ones in Pharloom
right
wait a minute killori? 
we don't really have any reason to assume that?
Maskless Hornet is probably going to make us have nightmares
is it a mask tho?
she doesn't have a mask
Silksong gets to Pharloom and starts an OnlyHorns
i just dont understand the last part of the poem "a beasts nature bare to all" maybe talking about hornets strenght
the idea presupposes that
a.) pharloom’s folly was written really recently
b.) the weavers there know about hornet
c.) Herrah is a weaver/comes from Pharloom
it’s more of a stretch than luffy in gear 4
maybe it's about eating the rich...
you guys are missing the fact that pharloom's folly is actually a bloodborne reference
speaking about mask, there are only 2 bugs that blinked in the entire Hollow Knight universe:
Gruz Mother
That bug on a Silksong screenshot
or how when the weavers potentially break free from their shackles the kingdom’s inhabitants will see the true bestial nature behind the silk in the kingdom
I really think that Hornet uses a mask, because all of the other bugs and beings in hallownest uses masks, I don't know if spiders use masks tho
I dunno
or how, when suddenly devoid of creature conforts, perfectly civilized people become barbaric
and "when you wake they shall see your truth" could also be talking about hornet in the seal of binding (but thats hilghly unlikely)
only a few bugs wear masks
it doesnt really makes sense for folly to be written so recently
the husks don't
It seems the Pale King’s children just have heads like that
Poetry overrated. Return to tool discussion
that’s wrong
she's pk daughter wich doesn't have a mouth, she doesn't have a mouth either so that would make sense
folly was probably written before hornet was even a target for the kidnappers
barely any hallownest bugs wore masks
Masks are bigger in Deepnest
And that’s hornet’s face
Artstyle, she has a mouth
we can't make any assumptions about when the folly was written
Oh, that is actually a good point
Hornet face kinda look like Herrah's face, but with less eyes
Yet you can’t stop me.
we can make assumptions about everything actually, thats how assuming works
i want to see more spiders like hex
that one funny guy from the glade
But yes the lack of visible mouth is prolly because you can’t see either of her parents mouths either
yeah ofc she can breath, talk and all that but she is the same as pk
"They forget your heart" might be talking about how hornet can be gentle on the inside, but the inhabitants were told only about her ferocity and not her inside gentleness
streeeeetch
nope assumptions are banned, get banned
why would anyone from pharloom know how hornet is on the inside
I mean it reads and is meant to be an analog to Elegy for Hallownest, which is meant to be written when Hallownest was in it’s heyday
dude its called "pharloom's folly" not "hornet :))))))"
All characters have mouths, but not drawn ones. If there were consumables in Silksong, Hornet would merely hold food to her collar/chin and have the item vanish into thin air! It’s all about the artstyle!
i shall now present a different avenue in a new text wall:
Hornet uses her eyes when eating things
A Reversal Of Hollow Knight
In my mind, with what we know of Silksong so far, there is a reversal of themes and content compared to that of Hollow Knight. In this I mean that you travel up instead of down, traversing a living rather than dead kingdom, fulfilling wishes rather than banishing dreams. Using this as a template, and assuming a great many things, I will lay out for you here why the Beast’s Nature as alluded to in the poem Pharloom’s Folly is a good thing.
With everything being a reversal we shall dissect a couple key points from the Elegy of Hallownest, for comparison. In The Elegy, we are introduced to the creation of Hallownest, a sort of industrialization of the land by the Pale King. He ‘gave a world to bug and BEAST as they have never dreamed’. This is suggested to be a great and wonderful thing by those venerating the King, and as it is written by a confidant of the Pale King, it doesn’t bother to examine how badly the creation of Hallownest turned out for everyone, thanks to stepping on the Radiance.
So what is an exact opposite of that? Faith and the bit about working in toil- it seems to me that Pharloom is being described as being hierarchical and industrial, and shall return to BEASTdom. However, since everything is a reversal, this will be a good thing. Rather than being the collapse of society in an apocalyptic event, this could mean freeing the people from the iron grip of the Citadel. I guess that also means that Conductor Romino is a detractor of the Citadel.
Cue the Minecraft munch sfx
in that it's a poem about the kingdom, yeah
i honestly dont think this would be true but its a theory nonetheless
can we then gather that it's about pharloom's founder in some way
Warn us about a wall next time!
Seeing a living civilization will be cool!
yeah
yay 😄
I hadn’t thought about how neat that aspect is
okay i read it and that was cool, sorry
what?
Honestly, now that I am seeing Hornet's ingame sprite, yeah, that actually looks like a head, rather than a mask, guess I was actually wrong
Nice wall!
That doesn’t follow
it doesn’t need to be one to one for the clear relation to be made
the only shared thing is that they're poems about the kingdom
ok so this is very interesting thank you for sharing
anyways
TLDR: we need to see the elegy and pharloom's folly as polar opposites.
while the elegy supported the kingdom's industrialization, PL's folly directly antagonizes it as it goes against the kingdom's heart
basically romino is an anarchist
m
it’s a poem you see at the game’s beginning and it’s a poem about the kingdom itself
In that case I 100% agree with Romino
saying that means that they're both very old doesn't track if one of the kingdom's has been dead for a long time and the other one hasn't
yea maybe i'll add the tldr
i also have several segmented walls about why it could be a prequel, but imma keep those to myself..
ozlin thats the dark sid
Yes do keep them to yourself

post them
prequel discussions are banned 😡
are sequel discussions also banned 😛
no
yah
that's fair
I’m going to troll #hk-lore indefinitely until I am banned if Silksong actually turns out to be a prequel.
the moment it’s revealed as a prequel you’re getting banned
tools
Anyways, here is all the reasons why Silksong is actually a Sequel:
Uhh, Idk, I would like if it where a sequel
I really want it to be anything other than a sequel because it would be funny

Great! Spare me the time!
I’ll just troll Mossbag’s server! 
great, now Silksong is not canon, happy now ?
i am posting the pk kiss image in lore if i ever want to get banned
Say that Hornet is void
Wait! Why am I spitting out my plans? I must save the rest of the procedure for myself in order to succeed!
you would make a terrible criminal as you always spill the beans
Beans…? Like…
You just did like every villain in existence and made a villain speech directly to the heroes
censorship
minor spelling mistake 
literally 1984
anyways
Frick, I was going to say that
!wiki Pharloom’s Folly
https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Pharloom
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page Pharloom’s Folly for a direct link or !wiki search Pharloom’s Folly for a list of all hits.
damn
joker ask the mod team if its ok if i send a shitpost in lore only once i promise its hilarious
Shakra is cool. Shakra is based. Can we talk about Shakra?
They see your beauty, so frail and fine,
They see your peace, woven of faith and toil,
They forget your heart, bound in slumber and servitude,
When you wake they shall see your truth,
A beast's nature bare to all.
- From 'Pharloom’s Folly' by the Conductor Romino[5]
no
ill just ask sock then
clearly about pharloom supressing or hiding the truth about this "heart"
omg
NO WAY
real
we solved the lore
not only is grimm troupe in silksong, it's the main story
gg ez no re team cherry
I bet the “heart” just means the inhabitants of the kingdom, forced to do what the Citadel bids them to do.
weavers
Oh-
hey mossbag come do a 2 hours lore video we found it
I don’t want the Grimm Troupe to return though!

Especially not as a major part of the plot!
let me grab the copypasta
Plot Twist: The poems that we see in Hollow Knight and in Silksong are actually separated versions of the Holy Bible in the Hollow Knight Universe
Ok ima slap a wall here now:
My theory is based arounds Hornet and Herrah's connection to the weavers. Hornet and the weavers clearly know each other, considering the "Hornet_Room" in the weavers den, and the similarities in the cloth and cloaks. it's quite possible that the weavers knew about Hornet.
The evidence that the weavers are from Pharloom is how we see a lot of weaver-like thingy-ma-bingys in Pharloom. They then left Pharloom for some reason, but my guess is that some kind of curse of Silk and Song took over the citizens and they went mad, harnessing the weaver silk in very violent ways. The weavers left Pharloom to escape from the mad citizens and found Hallownest. They constructed a civilization in Deepnest and met Herrah. Hornet was later born, and the weavers made her clothes, and helped raise her.
Eventually most of the weavers decided to return to Pharloom when the infection hit, hoping that the curse had worn off. Some stayed, like the weaverlings, because they feared that they would meet a worse fate in Pharloom. When the weavers returned to Pharloom, some of the curse had worn off, but some members were still insane because of it. They told stories of Hornet and her ferocity, but not about her gentleness and kind heart that was forever bound in servitude to Hallownest. The non-absolutely coo-coo in the head bugs wrote poems of Hornet, one of them being Pharlooms Folly. My arms hurt
Yo December Division. Y'all know we're just playing around right?.... Right? 
"you" is pharloom, pharloom's heart is what keeps pharloom alive, following so far?
good because this is where I go off the rails
whatever was being bound in slumber and servitude, when it was waked, created this haunting
making pharloomites act beastlike
hornet room was in the white palace mb
…so, everybody wants to upload their WALLS, eh?
Time to upload my wall as to why Ogrim will be in Silksong!
ok fele
no in the game files theres a secret room in the weavers den called Hornet_Room
The non-absolutely coo-coo in the head bugs wrote poems of Hornet, one of them being Pharlooms Folly. My arms hurt
it all made sense until this
no it wasnmt
hornet never lived in the white palace
yeah mb i confused myself
I'm like 99% sure there is a room called Hornet room in the White Palace
no its at the weaver's place
it was just cut, iirc?
its this
thats really not hornet's room
unfinished seal of binding and its called Hornet_Room in the game files
yeah thats a THK seal
It’s called Hornet Room in the code, but it’s not actually Hornet’s room.
anyway, the Weavers didn't construct a civilization in Deepnest
i agree that it looks more like THK seal, but its called Hornets room so ima just point it out
then why would they call it hornet room in files despite hornet never appearing in there
and anyways file names don’t have any bearing on the game really
they integrated with the spiders already there
ok but we really arent sure as to why they are capturing weavers
file names are not canon
i meant weavers den by that
yeah im pretty sure that was only the code name, but theres a THK seal there
And I’m not saying that the weavers didn’t know hornet, hell they fuckin raised her
I’m saying that the ones from Pharloom probably didn’t
yeah but my theory is that the weavers are from Pharllom and came to Hallownest, the reaturned again
that's a big IF
ok im confusing myself ima eat smth
that's what happened
didn't the lore say they went back to their old home in pharloom
yeah thats probably what happend, but we dont really know, ill find it pretty odd to have two unrelated weavers civilisation tho so i think the weavers that went to hallownest are at least related to the ones at pharloom in some way
it didnt mention pharloom, it just said they went back to teir old home
well, they left to
Cut content isn’t canon
we don't know if they succeeded
imo this happened
they lived in pharloom
they left
in the meantime some other bugs colonized it
infection
go back
slavery
dystopia time
and they're in pharloom
tesseract stay with one hecking pfp
Hornet probably didn't want to end up in Pharloom, but she did anyway
weavers going back to their old home is cut content? legit asking cause i dont even remeber where i heard it from
yeah she probably didn't ask to be stuck in a cage and carted off
Also, why the heck did the bad guys even kidnapped hornet? And how did she even got captured?
pretty fancy cage not gonna lie
Hmm?
Stop switching your pfp
tess has had like 5 pfps total since I've known him
I mean she might have been caught on the way to go there and dragged the rest, I guess
Or I’ll ban you
Switch your pfp
Can you even be banned for that?
it’s just a little mod abuse
Test and see
Ayo 
Tesseract is cool
am I allowed to get the joker nft pfp
one well known theory is that the pharloom cult kidnap spiders to produce silk which is a pretty big aspect of pharloom, this theory works with Lace saying that hornet will only find suffering if she tries to discover whats going on by getting to the citadel and that it would be better if she died right then and now, imo thats the most likely reason but since we dont know much about all of the lore yet we cant really say for sure
@coarse leaf I’m your biggest fan
wow fool has changed
no I bought that nft myself
wait you bought an nft¿
you stole it from H who stole it from me who stole it from twitter
lies
Oh, I actually forgot about this theory, and it probably is the most likely
I crossreferenced the image and bought the nft
I have an NFT! Who wants to see? Please don’t screenshot!
for $378.43
I want, show to me (I will not screenshot it, ha ha)
Only $378.43? They must’ve really wanted to get rid of it
NOOOOOOO!
Thank you, Fool 
Oh and I decided to start working on that Lace Pixel Art, what do you guys think? ( She will be using her staff thingy to control the flies thingys, like in that pre-boss cutscene)
No way! That looks accurate so far!
Thanks
Hey its dec 13 wheres my news 🧐
yayy blogpost coming
Anybody know when TC uploads?
we only got one more hour
its dec 13 in adelaid
today
Silly Zen! There’s no such thing as “british people”
that's where teach cherry is locatedd
They’ll upload at 12:00 PM
happy december 13th
We're gonna get silksong for Christmas
...2022 
how do you know
yeah i'm sorry 

honestly im not expecting anything on one specific date
All good, buddy. We all make mistakes. Best thing to do is learn from them 
if we don't get news on the 13th however I'd expect the 25th or the 31st
Just the 13 for me as well, that means Imma be making that ss map in exactly 8h
I said so!
Why december 13th
the last 2 sign off blogposts have been then
waw so early
and as we all know, coincidence isn't real and Fool is always right
Every year, there was news today! The only exception last year happened because of EDGE!
Coincidence I reckon
Let’s hope they keep the tradition (even if last year there was edge and stuff so it was different)
I am ALWAYS correct! I bet Simo is typing their speech for the #hk-announcements channel right now!
They’re preparing it on Word - or a Google Doc!
Would be amazing to wake up and see silksong but 
Summoning blogpost come on
Simo is preparing the message he'll use to tell the mods about the blogpost at 11:58
Hello mr belmont
we can't see if they are typing in the channel 
you fools there will be no news 
It doesn’t matter! News is inevitable and I will be right!
Maybe the day is a coincidence, but uploading in December is probably just their way of doing, so any day from now till 2023 is still relatively likely to have a blog post
I'm gonna cry if it doesn't come out in 2022
well
I mean I said that the start of this year too
bad news
But we do not speak of 2021
If not February 2022, FEBRUARY 2023!

February 30
February release! December news! The cycle of life! 
i believe in February but i do not believe in news this month this year 
Yuck! Pessimist!
I believe in late 2022 release
may hope has run dry 
Yuck! An incorrect person!
The absolute silence of TC and Leth on social media since several weeks and the lack of TGA they were preparing a blogpost all along
absolute silence of Leth not sending a message in 1 whole week
I meant twitter jsjdkdks he's just disappeared since december 4
that ends TODAY
who's ready to end up accidentally ddosing tc blog website
Would be cool tho, two years without blog post
Will I be banned for pinging myself?
already been doing it for hours but only a couples of times per hour so it’s fine
probably muted
@coarse leaf
trolled
hello chat
Hello there
you ready for a blogpost
🗿
are you?
clown wig ready
i am not
yes
I made Lace with the wrong proportions, and now I'm too lazy to change, why do I must suffer
Get ready.
10 minutes.
wazzzup
what
10 mins til my pizza arrives
I want pizza
same
Sadly I will be sleeping, there’s not much point in staying awake during the potential blog post I’ll just see it when I’ll wake up in 6:30h
I also want pizza
Graig is my role model
NOT THIS AGAIN 😂
We should all look up to Graig
what kind of pizza is it
The giant enemy spider
The delicious kind
Pineapple
Hey can you order some pizza? I'm from Brazil, so the delivery guy is going to cross several countries just to get here
Wouldn't it be hilarious if we actually got a blogpost in a few hours 💀
« What kind of pizza is that » « the giant enemy spider » 
it better have no pineapple
my skin
This year’s news
who else is praying
We didn’t get any news this year - even EDGE was technically BEFORE 2021.
exactly what time do they upload blogposts?
Stand strong against any lack!
12 pm
Seriously 😂
We don’t know that - I just guessed that 
I’m guessing the afternoon? 12pm?
normally it's evening
In your timezone? Or theirs?
Ild actually want to have news just on the 1st so we could « flex » that we went the full year of 2021 without any news (even if I knew about silksong way after edge but yes yes I’m one of you don’t worry haha been a full year I know haha)
@restive domemCherry plz Answer oops i failed
theirs
I think wait I don't remember what the conversion is
The kind people at #hk-announcements will notice before me and ping everyone so I don't check
can someone check when the previous blog was made if its possible
Alright so it'll be afternoon in Australia when I wake up lets pray
it's like 1 hour before me, I think? so like, 6pm to 11pm, was the range I got
but it literally doesn't matter when the other one was
Is there seriously nobody who has a clue on when blogs EXACTLY release? In Adelaide timezone?
Wait, are you checking the blog every minute now? why?
G’night guys,
I’ll see you all tomorrow, probably after the blogpost already dropped/didn’t dropped
there will be no news 
I'm a non-believer
Silence, weakling!
hour and a half, actually, so more like 5:30 to 10:30
What blogpost? why would there be a blogpost?
Wait idk your timezone and stuff, can you tell me like in how many hours from now would be the afternoon for them?
Why now in particular I mean?
cause aNnIvErSaRy
my hope has run dry there will be no news this month 
This day has had news every year aside from last year - which had EDGE
I see no news this or next month
I see no Silksong until 2023
Interesting
it all lines up
I see no credibility in your statements!
Well, good luck with that
nothing is lining up...?
fool is causing casual chaos again
hell yea
It’s only natural
I will remain neutral, I can't handle any more speculation on potential dates for news
There are three people in the Hollow Knight/ Silksong fandom, the ones who say that Silksong is going to release february 2022, the ones that think it's going to come out in 2023 (or more), and the ones who think Silksong will never come out
Superior Chaotic Evil!
lovely to see in the morning 
I can't handle any more detective work.
You also summoned me but I was already there 
Well-
but there hasn''t even been any detective work...
🪝
I know a better way to summon someone tho
By the power of this hook, I summon Window!
why do you need a french ?
@ 
yes
AAAAAAHHHH
Reverse psychology
i just clicked back to discord, so i think it may have been magic
In all seriousness, I knew you were lurking! I used the power of (view reply) AGAINST you!
summon wilbo now
Just say « oh nooo it would be a shame if window showed up right now... I would hate that! Oh noooo » and window ‘s gonna show up
Do it yourself - it’s as easy as a “@“, then a “wide wilbo”! Smh!
Wombat, can you grant me three wishes???
no

Let’s delete this chat channel in protest until news
wonder if it is a ban worthy action
It would probably be good for our collective mental health
would be pretty Pog
I mean Graig did it… and I look up to Graig… so…
summoning blogpost
Please do not 
Flukemarm in that picture is it’s own vibe
hey graig could you summon wilbo plz ?
You would need to summon Graig first
No you gotta summon him with the magic word
« Unless... » 
Hello chat
Window got summoned ey
Ari locked out of his old account
Oh! That explains it
anyways I remember when 2019 Christmas blogpost dropped
Do you know what time?
Your next line is gonna be: « ...but so who is who? Just out of curiosity... »
Unless... 
Nope, still not working 
the 2018 one was at 2pm in Adelaide
I'd die for another soundtrack preview
« dec 13, 2019 »

Oh that was 2019?
so in 6 hours and 30 min
I meant the 2018
Last year was even better with the edge magazine so 
I’ll get online in 6h and 45min 
I have to stay up til 1 AM EST! 
XD
I’ll probably sleep, but set a million alarms for 1:00 
I’d die for even a pixel of a new enemy
I’m staying up til 1 am anyways, insomnia!
Though I remember the 2018 one being late
I hope it’s just 1h late
Oh lord HKmemes subreddit is going insane
I dont think we will get a blogpost today.
I hope there’s no blogpost
nah it will be 10 years late XD
Everyone is getting so desperate
True - you’ll have to be moderating! But hey, if you can’t handle it you can always retire and pass the responsibility over to me!
Why would you stay up for the slim hopes that something will come up. Go to sleep and get some rest. Either you wake up with a blogpost or dont
I’ll be on a computer ready to analyze and discuss stuff and actually read the stuff in 7:30from now
No.
I never mention moderating
I just hope there’s no news
I cant believe fool got stuck again
YES!
Huh?
In this channels bs
…fine… and besides, it would save me a headache from a nuke!

Tbh when i slept for tga i was certain and then i woke up in pain
Exactly. Your mental and physical wellbeing > TC blogpost
Maybe they updated the gog database thing for tomorrow the reveal blogpost
Any new news since the magazines?
Actually let me not even start
nope
😭
📻 silence
yes yes

This though
possible silksong news tomorrow?
Oh fr?
for me is today XD
No there wont be
yes there will
I really doubt it ive never been a doubter but it wont be tomorrow
Is this like a prophetic dream situation
you guys ready for the big day tomorrow
🤡
"On December 13, 2019, Team Cherry shared its latest post on its website. Tomorrow, December 13, 2021, is the biennial anniversary of this post. Hope for some news/update."
Why tomorrow specifically?
I love how you like to troll 😂
If anyone is staying up in hopes of news, go to sleep
Didn’t we get hyped last year and nothing happened
My wedding party 
did anyone beat the new krebblo boss yet
i'm on crab town rn
exactly, the news won't go anywhere
Like legit, Window?
If there is any
I was bouta say who you marrying then realised how dumb that sounded
if, yeah
But yeah window, legit?
iv never heard of lying on the internet
Who would do that
only literally satan
and graig
Lying is a sin
^
Well congrats man 
Lying is a different kind of truth y'know
Alternative facts 
Exactly!
I guess
Ok satan
AND IM AN ATHEIST
i'm a Hornetist

I just want silksong to come out
Ok, so, I beat World 4 and uh, yeah, I can see why people says that it is hard, but it's still fairly easy to beat the levels 
It’s actually pretty interesting to see the level of this chat going from actual conversation to dumpster fire so fast, I’m definitely not the first one to mention that but yeah, this channel is really something else
Who doesn't, right? 
Yeah
We all do, welcome to the clown car 
What does this even mean
oh you dont know?
No
I want SS to come out ||when TC has made it the best they can and are happy with it||
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But I mean, apparently, there's a hard mode for that game, so I might check it out
Yaknow like 4 months ago the mods tried to stop the ss offtopi
It can't be that hard
You dont know of ss offtopic
whats wrong? we just talk about tools 
I come in here like once every other month to see if there’s new news
We literally had an in depth conversation about skylanders and ramen and food and other games not long ago
tools and fools
SS-Discussion can be described as "chaotic fools tries to have an actual discussion but fails"
/J it is fake
Did somebody say tools?!
coloseum of tools
this is what happens when yall dont let me discuss splatoon lore
So how we feeling about them tools
And then I cry because there isn’t news and leave
Ok, I have one thing to say, translating Lace's design into pixel art is straight hell, at least for me who still is a beginner, and the worst part is that her design is so simple, yet, it's so complex
So hyped for tools. Crests and tools are my favourite thing about SS
truly a masterpiece never to be released
I thought Splatoon 2 was the Splatoon 1 but with twists 
Needle Master Hjormur huh
HOLY SHIT THAT BRINGS BACK NOSTALGIA. @coarse leaf remember how you used to go in here and say one thing about tools and the chat would burn down?
That was fucking funny always, it doesnt work as good now tho
Ok goodbye now see you in 2 months when there is still no news
Server language is english dude
thats some TGA tom foolery
Which of the demakes are you the developer for?
its in spanish but its very informative
its just TGA rumors
The article says that "Silksong could reappear in The Game Awards 2021"
TGA happened already
old rumor
Ig that could be true!!
Oh, I'm just drawing her just for fun lol
did it appear? 
And we aren’t close to forget it
Ah insee
Take a guess, take a guess!
Yes it did
Like, she is just doing the chad pose right here, and her head looks disgusting
Super sadness did for me the next day
of course I remember
Guys, any news on the song of silk
Lace Tposing
?sspsa
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
Yes, wait 6:48h
drawing lace is a nightmare fullstop
Don’t do that
:skeletorlaugh:
At least we hope there will be
It was supposed to be her doing this, I think I'll continue this drawing tho If I find a way to make it look better
fun fact. TC has never released a blogpost on a monday
guys what kind of insect is lace? is she a tick? a white ant?
fun fact. we think your fact is cool!
but they have on december 13
Fun fact: TC will release a blogpost on a monday
A genuine Lacebug 
I mean it’s not like TC released 30blog post so I don’t think they are avoiding Monday or something
I think Lace is a Lacebug
the fuck is a lacebug
This looks like yarn
🐌 Also spoiler it for the squeamish folk
check her arms to head proportions which seem to be a little different
I thought you were kidding me! beautiful bug btw
My god this is disgusting (sorry lmao)
No u
no u
the lacebugs wings are pretty damn gorgeous though
If I were to be honest, probably make the head bigger, make the armpits go more inwards toward the chest, and make her torso skinnier? What you made is still great though - way better than what I could accomplish
where is silksong news at
Lace doesn't have wings, Lace's a fool
No clue 
Not my drawing
Oh-
@feral falcon
The only problem is her legs, how do I even make these? Do i do noodle legs? Stick legs?
silksong release date estimates?
By the way, i'm a novice blacksmith and would like to make a hollow night weapon.
which do you prefer me to do?
February 2022
Well, her legs are just like sticks
Oh ok, thanks for the help!
THK nail would be pretty cool
Mid-Late 2022
I would say mid 2022 maybe june but I dont want to think about it anymore 
mantis claw, not really a weapon but they look cool
Sometime between February of 2022 and April of 2023 is my guess
I think the would either release it 2022 summer or 2022 december
summer would be great
but 2022 summer is more likely (imo)
because is sooner
how I can do a vote?
It could release whenever in 2022 really
Leaning heavily in the direction of 2022
Im guessing early 2022
February 2022!
February 2022!
it really depends on how much content do they want to add
February 2022!
That would be nice yes
February isn’t out of the question but it’s not exactly likely
There we go! Enough February 2022! ‘s!
I kinda think February could be likely as well
Pwoarrrrrrowza!
bapanada… ::(
bapanada bebruary
Frankly I feel significantly less confident on a release date than I did 6 months ago.
Team Cherry hasn’t worked on Silksong for months because they’ve been busy defending TCHQ against this Giant Enemy Spider and they’ve been using whatever rations and resources they could find to hide inside the apartment and kill the beast
My guess for a release date is around mid 2022, maybe June or July
The usual Australian experience!
The citadel is actually the TC office and the spider is hornet
Ari and William are the final boss
o:
I had a dream that silksong was relesed in hypixel minecraft once
?
When your hyped for Silksong and Hytale at the same time 
lol
no christopher larkins is the final boss and his main attack is making you fall asleep with CoT music
And you gotta wait years for both 
oh the misery…
It was like a minigame but a full game at same time
christopher larkin sets you on fire with the fire soundtrack
yes
after silksong releases, there will be thousands of people going through their "dont know what to do with my life anymore" character arc
162
1920
thats his second attack
literally me

Plot twist: silksong is just a hypixel skyblock texture pack
play silksong of course
at least elden ring will cover a good part of my 2022 while ss releases haha
By the way, i'm a novice blacksmith and would like to make a hollow night weapon.
which do you prefer me to do?
hornet needle?
didn’t you already said that 10min ago
ok but after i 100% it i'm gonna feel so fucking empty
that's when you 150% it
wait try do some votation
Like... like a... like a hollow knight 
hollow fool
thats when you play it again and again and again and again

also silksoul could take us 5 years to finish
silksoul: every enemy is a stalking devout
If there’s no HoG you will get into silksoul with only one successful fight against each boss, can’t end well
thats why you play the og again and again and again first
I would like a hall of gods kind of thing. I got a lot better at the game with that. Plus I usually jumó on now a days craving to fight a specific boss from HK so HoG is nice for that too
how long has silksong been in development for anyway?
decades
Member TGA
like fr tho
2.5 years
Anyways imma go now, I’ll be back in 1h and after that in 6h from now
I think there will be a HoG type thing but no boss rush
there will at least be a way te refight bosses I think
2019 iirc
nah
According to Graig just 2.5 years of full development
well probably before that
Since Godmaster released which was like 2018 iirc?
3 years in February since the announcement
it was ANNOUNCED in february 2019
Surely 2022 right?
after godhome right so around september???
right?
2.5 years of full developement but it was thought of as soon as hk released
As expected, there was no new news from Silky Song today
I'm just gonna leave this here
Yeeeees but people were saying that in 2019 (that it would come out in 2020)
when you put it that way the wait is a fair bit more understandable
5 years would be understandable
they've only been working on ss as the MAIN focus for 2.5 years
Yeah it was being worked on before that iirc
and HK was like 3 years right
Making a huge hand drawn game in 3 years, I just can't understand how they are so fast
Since before HK even came out they had decided it would be a game, not a DLC (according to Leth I think?)
2.5 years goes back to mid 2019, right? that's interesting
its because the dark colours made it easier for relatively sloppy art to pass i think
I guess it makes sense, TC did say with the trailer that it was the first time they really got to feel out what made Hornet fun
hah jokes on you fuckers i'm already going through a stage like that even before i knew i talk on this channel
but that doesnt work in silksong because its wayyyy more vibrant
so the demo was probably the first thing they really fleshed out
the funny things about graig is that he always seems to know more then the rest of us when in reality he's probably just as confused as us
The blog posts on the site were published at around 1AM PST, so it's still about 9 hours before I would expect anything (around 7:30PM in adelaide)
Just as confused definitely not, he doesn't know everything true, but still
it's pretty much just a way of saying that we shouldn't rely on graig for information
When he says something straight out like that I trust
Graig knows things, he just can't tell us things
When he is clearly joking I don't
hello fellas time to go off topic for the 999999999999th time
Graig knows more about the game than us, but I doubt he knows when the game will come out
he can tell us, but he has to also tell us the opposite to confuse us
And I don't like analyzing every word he says for hidden messages
Nobody knows that
I know that
That's ok
thats probably the best way to describe graigs role on this server lol

Do you know why there is no general for this game on /vg/
I love that emote so much
what?
so assuming SS started full development in september 2018 (the month after godhome) then 39 months dev time so far
Said the one mod who's not a playtester /s
/vg/ is video game generals, it's a board
Plus some before that
I'm wondering why there is no hollow knight general on it
You don't understand, oranges get insider information and won't share because they are evil and hate us
I BET that graig is going to subtle try to spoil silksong for us when it comes out
Graig is the only TC member that can break NDA on account of nobody believing a word that comes out of his mouth
Egoistical oranges not sharing the release date
"nobody believing a word" doubt
i would love for my name to be orange
we don't need ss knowledge to be egotistical
i imagine that would be negligible work tho as they were mostly
focused on HK
is that really true give me a example
As expected, there was no new news from Silky Song today
Sillysong (:
days not even over yet
but are egos run on silksong content
I mean it's a popular game so I'm wondering if any of you know abobt why no one really talks about it outside some places
Sock, please share one of those Silksong Steam keys they give to mods
they might not post it exactly on the 13th
my ego is fueled off of the minor entertainment i get from manually muting other mods
it's 11AM in Adelaide right now, they still have plenty of time to update
i am now hoping but not counting on a 2022 release
ye
Graig is a troll but he's not evil 
sure, just give me a moment. i have a very big keyring and it's full of several identical keys, and i have meticulously go through each of them first
Graig's not a troll, he's a memer
i dont think graig can legally try to spoil silksong
like when #hk-meme keeped nsfw earrape people for no reason before they start shitting out me when beans
hey sock you’re 37 right?
58?
oh fuck i wish
12?
Graig just wants to have fun I think. I would hate it if I wasn't allowed to meme a little
put me at 70 so i can imagine what it'd be like to be so fucking old that i can justify my behavior
19?
That's what an nda means, depends on how serious the ones enforcing it are
fuck you fuck you fuck you
i dont think graig would actually break an nda
why would you remind me i'm aged
why are you saying fuck me
awful age. the worst age
it’s not my fault you’re old and short
Sock is ancient
the only good ages are 11, 12, and very elderly
not true 12 is the worst
source i was 12
Why ?
I think 37 is a pretty good age
all ages between 15-50 are awful
thats the ages of every discord mod i've ever met
i was the fucking worst when i was 12
Life tanked the minute you stopped folding your pyjamas under your pillow
37 in particular
my life was ok at 12 even though i was an objectively bad person
What did you do
why
be a bad person
Yeah. I was shit as well at 12
What did you do
Just think about it
As a bad person
most children as assholes, and thus are bad people
i wasn't biting people anymore though??? probably
ok
but why
I was just annoying, very
if i bit someone at age 12, it was probably justified
You can’t be a bad person when you’re 12 because you’re literally a child
Not to some people
I still am in a way I think
That's why I make sure to smack any 12 year old I see. Gotta make sure they know Thier place
You sure? Me at 12 years old was a demon!
that’s horseshit
You can punish children for crimes
yeah, Joker is 12 and he's a bad person
Man I was bad when I was 11, I started getting better around 12 but was still an idiot.
Well, I'm still an idiot but I'm less of one (I think)
you can definitely be bad at 12 but usually you're just a dick and not like. genuinely bad
I am literally 17 you NONCE
at any rate. usually you're ashamed of who you were at age 12
Like you can be a bad person but you’re not gonna like judge a 12 year old for just being a 12 year old you know what I mean
Shout out to those who were 12


