sk-discussion

[balmy pasture]

and then you build a giant box

[bronze monolith]

I still haven't got round to trying BotW. Got a big backlog of games.

[grim forge]

And botw 2 looks like it's gonna be that on steroids

[opaque sigil]

If you don't find the game intrinsically motivating then yeah you probably won't like it but that isn't because the game is bad

[coarse leaf]

tbf, I could say that about any Nintendo 3d game

[opaque sigil]

[coarse leaf]

Mario Odyssey, Galaxy, BoTW

[opaque sigil]

What of it

[random fox]

Its still a very cheap way to do open world, and i assume its also why they made weapons break (also hate this too btw) so they can just put the same shit in every chest

[grim forge]

I love that

[stark estuary]

I loved botw, liked Master Trials, Champion's Ballad was kinda eh and I thought Master Mode was underwhelming. Overall still a 9/10.

[random fox]

If they actualy took more care with putting stuff in the world it would be way better imo

[opaque sigil]

They made weapons break to change the game constantly. That way you don't get stuck in the rhythm of using the same weapons

[grim forge]

^

[outer bridge]

Isn’t that just how all open world games do randomised loot

[coarse leaf]

I mean, a cheap way to make open-world game are just putting random cutscenes in a lot of sequences of the game just to extend the playtime

[opaque sigil]

Weapons breaking can be annoying but the game would have been way worse without it

[random fox]

It really wouldnt

[opaque sigil]

It would, because you would only ever use a handful of weapons

[grim forge]

In most games you'll just find a weapon you'll like and stick with it, but in botw it forces you to use stuff you're not fully comfortable with using by turning weapons into a resource

It's a really smart move for the type of game botw is imo

[stark estuary]

Early game I found weapon-breaking to be incredibly fun, kept me on my toes. Became far less impactful late game, which was the likely intention.

[grim forge]

^

[coarse leaf]

like, I hate when some people makes a open-world game and then:

1 - Don't let you explore the world
2 - Puts random mandatory cutscenes that you could just watch them on youtube

[opaque sigil]

Weapon breaking can be a problem in master mode though, since the enemy healths are way out of whack

[stark estuary]

Also encouraged me to explore and fight Lynels early on for cool gear (can't do this in MM due to regaining health)

[opaque sigil]

In normal mode it's good enough

[coarse leaf]

Also, I need to get BoTW, maybe I get it in the Black Friday

hi hello hi hi

[random fox]

If they made weapons not break u could use wat fits u best and try new things in different playtroughs, the breaking just makes me wanna not even fight enemies cuz the loot i get back could be or is worse then the weapon im using

[coarse leaf]

Bcz of the deals and stuff like that

[balmy pasture]

hi hello hi hi

[stark estuary]

No you'd just use the first weapon with a good attack bonus on it

[opaque sigil]

Except what fits best is going to be only a handful of weapons that you never have to swap off of

[pallid flare]

you'd just stay on one

[random fox]

I dont see how thats a bad thing really

[coarse leaf]

Btw, anyone recommends BoTW?

[pallid flare]

yes

[desert basin]

yes

[opaque sigil]

Breakable weapons force you to adapt and be smart about when you use your resources

[grim forge]

Yes

[coarse leaf]

I will suffer with the camera tho, bcz joycon drift

[grim forge]

Exactly

[random fox]

If u find a weapon u enjoy using u can use it always, also never seen anyone who never tries new weapons when they get them even if they like the current one

[opaque sigil]

And it prevents one strong weapon from trivializing the entire game

[random fox]

Its not like ppl get the first weapon and never try new ones

[stark estuary]

I had like four ancient swords++ with 60 attack but never used any cos I was afraid of them breaking

[opaque sigil]

A 30 damage sword has no use over a 40 damage one

[desert basin]

it sounds like thats exactly what you want

[opaque sigil]

Unless you add durability, players would only ever use the 40 damage one

[random fox]

How exactly

[coarse leaf]

Btw, what's the point of getting a weapon that doesn't broke?

[grim forge]

And the fact that they break makes finding weapons, even if you've seen them before somewhat exciting since that's more resources to use in combat, and it gives the developers something to keep you engaged with the world.

[coarse leaf]

Like, a stick can't break bcz "it's too boring to get another weapon"?

[stark estuary]

Although once you get 60dmg Master Sword and Hylian Shield you don't really use anything else all that often (unless you're doing Ancient stuff for max damage)

[opaque sigil]

Well to get that you have to do a lot of work

[random fox]

And it also lets them fill in chests with loot u have seen 300 times alredy while if weapons didnt break u would get actual stuff that ur excited for

[opaque sigil]

And even the fully empowered master sword can run out/be weaker than other weapons

[grim forge]

Honestly though by that point in the game and the work you do I think that's a fair trade

[opaque sigil]

Other Zelda games don't have chests filled with totally unique items

[outer bridge]

Weapons in the elder scrolls don’t break but you still see “iron sword of scorching” 50 million times in a run

[opaque sigil]

No game has chests filled with fully unique items

[outer bridge]

Randomised loot just works like that

[coarse leaf]

Tbf, I don't play a lot of open-world games, bcz 3D platformers are more fun to me bcz I don't need to backtrack so much

[analog forge]

Its like skyrim.

[random fox]

Never played another zelda so i wasnt comparing

[opaque sigil]

If there weren't weapons in chests there would be rupees, and arrows, and other much more mundane shit

[analog forge]

you'd have loot, but it'd be completely worthless, instead of having value

[grim forge]

Putting weapons in chests actually gives you a reason to go open them, because then you can keep sustaining yourself during combat and get more weapons

[random fox]

Or they couldve actualy tried to make exciting stuff to put in

[analog forge]

yes, just add +800% more items

[opaque sigil]

And chests having weapons is nice because you know that they're actually useful since you having a better weapon doesn't totally invalidate their existence

[grim forge]

^

[opaque sigil]

A royal broadsword is useful even if you have a royal guard's broadsword

[grim forge]

Even the worst weapons in your arsenal are still useful because you can use them to conserve better weapons or on weaker enemies, which opens up some strategy

[opaque sigil]

And a lot of chests have weapons that are rarer or enhanced in some way

[analog forge]

its not a choice between unique loot and breakable weapons.
its a choice between breakable weapons and junk loot

Again, look at skyrim for an example

[coarse leaf]

Hey, let's discuss about SS releasing tomorrow!

[grim forge]

[stark estuary]

Yeah I already said that its strength was likely to have been intentional

[random fox]

To me it feels like they made weapons breakable so they could fill in way more chests than whats needed to unlock everything to prolong gametime

[opaque sigil]

Well that's not really correct

[grim forge]

How would putting weapons in optional chests pad gametime

[outer bridge]

“Prolonging game time” is probably not a major concern in a game where you can go from the tutorial area straight to the final boss

[random fox]

Well unless u wanna avoid alot of combat u will need alot of weapons so it doesnt make it that optional

[coarse leaf]

im sure there was so much news since 4 days ago

[opaque sigil]

I mean the whole system is well enough balanced that in normal mode you never have to grind weapons, you get enough through combat to compensate for the weapons you use and then some

[coarse leaf]

lemme check...

omg there was no new news omg

[opaque sigil]

Really it's more a rotating arsenal than anything else

[coarse leaf]

I mean, some games just forces you to watch long cutscenes that you can't skip bcz of that reason

[opaque sigil]

The weapon durability is only really a problem in master mode and even then it often manifests as an interesting challenge as to how to eliminate/escape/avoid enemies without a ton of weapons

[grim forge]

Like I get how weapons breaking is annoying and I think it's fair to not like the system, but I just personally think for the gameplay loop of exploring and fighting, the fact that they break just strengthens it

[random fox]

I doubt new players actualy skip everything and just go to do the boss

[opaque sigil]

Yeah. It's not my favorite thing when taken independently but within the context of the actual game as a whole it's a necessity to keep combat engaging

[coarse leaf]

new players wants to explore the world, bcz open-world game y'know

[grim forge]

Exactly this

[opaque sigil]

I was skeptical of the durability too at first, it wasn't until my second playthrough that I actually appreciated how much it helped the game

[outer bridge]

But the fact that they can choose to if they want signals that the devs’ point is to allow the player to be resourceful, - not to just add playtime - and breakable weapons then add an extra layer of strategy to that

[random fox]

For me it just made me wanna avoid combat, why should i fight when im losing a weapon i like to get something bad or just not as good

[grim forge]

I get that

[opaque sigil]

Because you often get better things

And you can choose to use a less powerful weapon to suit the scenario if you need

[stark estuary]

Yea

[grim forge]

Botw just doesn't seem to be indicative of what you personally enjoy about games

[stark estuary]

Also you can kill enemies through other means if you're afraid of losing durability

[opaque sigil]

You don't have to use your strongest weapons at all times (although I have found that to be a pretty enjoyable way to play since it constantly forces you to reevaluate your combat approach and prevents the shiny things from just building up without getting used)

[coarse leaf]

btw, let's discuss about a good game: Super Metroid!

It's a weird game :)

[outer bridge]

I think trials of the sword really shines as a microcosm of why breakable weapons are so good in the rest of the game - for me at least there was a massive thrill to the challenge of carefully planning out who to use weapons on when they were so limited, and the same applies to the wider game

[grim forge]

^

[stark estuary]

Trial of the Sword was awesome yeah

Not so much in Master Mode, but that's Master Mode in general

[opaque sigil]

Trial of the Sword was fun but I'm never touching it in master mode

[random fox]

I guess, also its an open world game where u get alot of freedom and i just dont know why they chose to not let u have freedom in this 1 part, thats why it seems like a way to fill in chests that they didnt wanna put time into, i would probably enjoy the system if it was in a game with a linear exploration path and progress

[stark estuary]

Snail.

[opaque sigil]

It was stating my opinion so no

[stark estuary]

I don't care. Snail.

[coarse leaf]

Yeah, snail

[grim forge]

Escargot

[tardy raft]

Blue Bokoblins with just bombs and a single club is a very (not) fun experience

[opaque sigil]

What else would they put in chests? Rupees and arrows are much more boring, and removing the chests altogether wouldn't improve things

[stark estuary]

That one room with the Lizalfos (you know which one I mean)

[tardy raft]

Silver moblins in Moderate

[opaque sigil]

Without durability how would they incentivize players to use new weapons

[stark estuary]

Fire Emblem Fates

[opaque sigil]

Fates weapons were garbage, case in point

[stark estuary]

Indeedith

[opaque sigil]

Echoes had combat arts

[random fox]

They couldve spent time making different weapons that do different things, or different items in general, and removing some chests and weapon durrablity would imo make chests more exciting since u know u wont be getting the same thing as ur last chest, and it wouldnt make it as grindy, this also comes along with the fact that ppl wont avoid combat so their weapon doesnt break

[stark estuary]

Yeah Echoes was good, and Gaiden (the other game which omitted durability) was garbage too.

[opaque sigil]

Avoiding combat isn't a necessary measure in the first place

[outer bridge]

Do you have an example of another game that does this? Another open-world rpg with chests where the weapons aren’t randomised or breakable? I honestly can’t think of where this would be the case

[opaque sigil]

And they can't make hundreds upon hundreds of unique weapons

[random fox]

Never said it was, its just a thing alot of ppl do to avoid breaking weapons

[opaque sigil]

Well that's their fault then

[grim forge]

I feel like avoiding breaking weapons is the entire problem

[opaque sigil]

You're supposed to break them, hell it's often tactically advantageous to do it intentionally

[random fox]

No? But idk how that affects anything, can they not do new thing?

[sinful fulcrum]

guys can we talk about why and how silksong is an official category on twitch?

[viral pivot]

it is?

[stark estuary]

That's why they're throwable

[grim forge]

There's a reason they do extra damage on breaks and throws

[opaque sigil]

The intent is that you break weapons in combat and pick up new ones, that's also why there's the gradual global increase in weapon quality

[random fox]

Than they can just make less chests, but that would cut down playtime and thats obviously something they wouldnt want even if it hurts the game

[outer bridge]

No it just seemed like you were citing a flaw of botw in comparison to something else - my point here would be that nobody’s done it because it isn’t really possible - like Tammo said you can’t really have hundreds and hundreds of unique unbreakable weapons

[opaque sigil]

Removing chests would also remove the reward for player-driven exploration and investigation

[coarse leaf]

Nintendo is the one who made Metroid Dread 100% be completed in about 10 hours, come on

It's just a stupid reason to make that in a open-world game

[opaque sigil]

And the chests don't add to playtime at all

[coarse leaf]

Yeah

[random fox]

Would it tho? Id be way more excited to do something to get a chest if i know its gonna be something new, also im not saying thay they should remove 90% of the chests, there would still be a decent amount

[opaque sigil]

They would have to remove about that many

botw has a ton of chests

[viral pivot]

guys, they didnt enjoy the game and while you guys did this explaining it isnt gonna change that they didnt like playing it

[opaque sigil]

I already addressed that

[coarse leaf]

But why having a lot of chests are a bad thing? I get it that's it's frustrating your weapon to break, but like, why even care about your weapon breaking if you can just pick another weapon instead?

[opaque sigil]

.

[coarse leaf]

And maybe, you get an even better weapon to fight harder bosses

[random fox]

Then it could make sense to make chests only be in harder areas

[opaque sigil]

Except that's not the point

[coarse leaf]

It could, but not everyone is a gamer

[opaque sigil]

The point of chests isn't to be something you seek out, it's to be something you find

And as much as you might hate it the weapons in the chests are often meaningfully useful

[coarse leaf]

But again, why even care about chests being all over the place at all? It's better than just finding nothing for hours imo

[opaque sigil]

The fact that you're approaching the weapon systems in the wrong way (ie the manner not intended by the developers) isn't indicative that the game is doing things wrong, it's that you're playing the game wrong

[random fox]

Im not saying having alot of chests is bad, im just saying that filling it up with stuff u have alredy gotten 100 times feels rly cheap, reason i said they could cut down the amount of chests is cuz ppl said its unrealistic to expect something new in each chest and thats a fair point

[coarse leaf]

Fair enough, but like, it doesn't really change the game at all, it's kinda of a minor thing

[opaque sigil]

But then the chests are so sparse as to be essentially nonexistent and very few people would ever encounter those items

[coarse leaf]

Sure, it's boring to get almost the same item everytime, but it doesn't really change the experience the person had with the game as a whole

[opaque sigil]

And at the end of the day if you don't find chests exciting just don't open them

Don't pursue them

If you have no interest in the contents of the chest don't go out of your way to get them and it's hardly an impediment

[analog forge]

"just dont engage with the primary gameplay loop"

[coarse leaf]

I mean, they got a fair point, but it's just better to expect that Nintendo makes it a little more interesting in BoTW 2

[random fox]

I mean u see an area that looks hard or is big u would probably know that theres a chest there

[analog forge]

thats not an answer and you know it

[opaque sigil]

Chests aren't the primary gameplay loop

[opaque sigil]

No you wouldn't

[coarse leaf]

Forget about open-world, remember about chests

[random fox]

Well if i wanna enjoy the combat without caring about breaking my weapon then i kinda have to no?

[opaque sigil]

That isn't what botw is

A side scroller isn't bad because it isn't a fps game

[coarse leaf]

But anyways, Silksong will release in:

[analog forge]

The combat in botw is enjoyable BECAUSE of the weapon durability, not in spite of it

[outer bridge]

this exactly. For botw’s case, consider shrines. There are 120 of them in the world, which in the grand scheme of things for weapons would be a helluva lot (consider scrolling through that inventory). At the same time, the game world is so large that very few people will have found all 120 by the end of the game. By limiting the number of chests for those unique items, you risk (and in all likelihood simply cause) the vast majority of players to miss most of those unique items.

[opaque sigil]

If you just want a hack-n-slash game, botw ain't it

[analog forge]

because you have to ration your resources, use alternate ways to fight, and in general, be fucking dirty

[grim forge]

On December 9th

[grim forge]

Hyrule warriors

[coarse leaf]

Ok, if you guess it wrong, you need to use one meme of #hk-meme as your pfp for 1 week

[analog forge]

weapon durability gives credence to tactics that normally wouldnt be worth your time.
like using a boulder to crush your enemies

[coarse leaf]

That sounds like a great deal to me.

[analog forge]

or lighting their camp on fire

[grim forge]

[opaque sigil]

Or blowing them into water with bombs

[coarse leaf]

And to you too!

After all, everyone loves #hk-meme memes

[opaque sigil]

I'm partial to a good moblin drowning myself

[grim forge]

My IV drip is filled my HK memes

[stark estuary]

Drowns trying to retrieve their weapons

[opaque sigil]

Drown them in the shallows

Magnesis

[stark estuary]

Non metal weapons

[opaque sigil]

Cryonis

[random fox]

I mean i wouldve done those things just cuz they are fun to do, but imo the system would make more sense in a linear game where finding these strategies would be the way u play instead of an open world where the whole point is to have freedom of what u do

[stark estuary]

Too far away

[analog forge]

Players dont do things because they are fun to do, if there is a more straight forward option

[opaque sigil]

Cryonis and then cryonis again

[analog forge]

Its why people dont use mines in fps games.

[stark estuary]

Misclicked and fell into the water

[opaque sigil]

What was the quote, "given the chance, players will optimize the fun out of a game"

[opaque sigil]

Skill issue

[nimble radish]

something something hollow knight charms

[random fox]

If players dont do things for fun that i doubt they would be playing botw, its not rly the most chalenging or rewarding game ever

[distant vapor]

who tf uses mines in fps gamed

[stark estuary]

You

[opaque sigil]

Players dont do things because they are fun to do, if there is a more straight forward option

[distant vapor]

lmao i just spam ar's and sometimes the occasional bfg 50

[opaque sigil]

ie unless incentivized players will take the easy, boring option most of the time

[stark estuary]

I also spam Absolute Radiance's and the occasional Big Friendly Giant 50

[opaque sigil]

That easy boring option being an indestructible powerful weapon, for instance

[distant vapor]

i think most progress happens when people backtrack

Like, you would not want to get the nail upgrades, unless your being danced on by NKG

nkg silksong: a freaking bullet hell

tbh hornet could be a bullet hell protagonist lmao

[random fox]

Players would still do the fun strats even if they had powerful weapons tho, yeah they would do it less but alot of ppl do these things cuz they can just be more fun then fighting enemies with ur weapon

[grim forge]

Hornet gungeon crossover

[distant vapor]

so you dont want to do bugfixing?

[stark estuary]

Would make the game too easy and discourage adaptation/experimentation

[random fox]

Wat

[distant vapor]

What i meant was like the other abilities

as in you could miss the spell upgrades sometimes

crystal mound

[random fox]

Also the fun strats u can do could be introduced to when u first encounter a certain enemy or something, if players dont enjoy doing them they should be able to just cleave tru enemies with a sword the more straight forward way

[distant vapor]

fun of hollow knight is making your own strats

[random fox]

@distant vapor im not talking about hk wdym

[distant vapor]

oh is this botw discussion?

[random fox]

I guess idk

[distant vapor]

breath of the wild is a game ill never finish lmao

im still at 20% completion

after all shrines and master sword

[charred crow]

When is silksong going to be available?

[opaque sigil]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[distant vapor]

Hornet x Touhou when

[crisp summit]

tomorrow, always tomorrow

[charred crow]

Thanks

[grim forge]

December 9th this year

[outer bridge]

btw SS has breakable weapons confirmed?

[random fox]

U could be introduced to these strats with certain enemies, also idk if i would worry about difficulty, botw isnt rly a game thats based around that

[crisp summit]

kinda yea

[distant vapor]

During the rising of the 12th sun

[opaque sigil]

Red tools aren't really breakable

[grim forge]

Tomorrow

[crisp summit]

i think if the optimal strategy to beat enemies is just using your basic weapon it makes the game a lot less fun

that's something i never really liked in mega man games for example

[opaque sigil]

Well, imo it's more about the simplest approach than the basic weapon

[distant vapor]

i think its how the basic weapon is designed

[opaque sigil]

If the basic weapon can be used in a more nuanced way, then there's nothing wrong with that being optimal

[distant vapor]

if its just the weapon, it sucks, but if theres other mechanics to assist it, its better

[crisp summit]

mhm

[random fox]

U could still do the fun things tho? And alot of ppl would just cuz its more fun then fighting enemies head on, but if u wanted this way u could also just cleave tru enemies

[opaque sigil]

You can just cleave through enemies in botw

Weapon durability is sufficiently generous enough that you can mostly ignore it

[crisp summit]

given the opportunity, people will optimize the fun out of games

unfortunately

[opaque sigil]

In the majority of fights you gain more than you lose

[random fox]

Who are these ppl, game journalists?

[opaque sigil]

Players

[crisp summit]

video game journalists couldn't optimize anything if they tried

[distant vapor]

lmao

[outer bridge]

Minmaxing is human nature so yeah it’s just everyone tbh

[distant vapor]

i cant respecc my build. My build is all just int points

[outer bridge]

Imagine having points in anything

[nimble radish]

all min no max

[outer bridge]

I think my dump stat is crippling anxiety

[nimble radish]

as in there aren't many points in it?

[distant vapor]

understandable

[outer bridge]

Oh no I mean main stat

See definitely no points in INT

[random fox]

If i get a new good weapon i definitly wont be using that to kill random enemies, cuz i have to worry about wasting it, that makes u use weapons that u dont rly enjoy as much just so u can preserve another one, wouldnt allowing u to use the fun weapon u enjoy using bring a better expirience for the player

[opaque sigil]

The strong weapons tend to have enough durability to see you through several encounters, during which time you are likely to encounter another strong weapon

[outer bridge]

I have to worry about wasting it
That’s the point - you are forced to be resourceful and plan how you use what is at your disposal carefully

[random fox]

Still always have the "i could be using this for something better" or "i couldve done this with the worse one" in ur mind

[opaque sigil]

I've played through the game using exclusively the strongest weapon in my inventory (barring keese and woodcutting) and invariably wound up accumulating powerful equipment because you get shit faster than you use it

[stark estuary]

God this is such a circular debate

How long has this been going on

May be best to drop it

[digital junco]

https://tenor.com/view/chef-skinner-skinner-suprised-suprised-chef-skinnee-chef-kinner-suprised-gif-20704181

[opaque sigil]

I did until I got pinged ten minutes later

[stark estuary]

Ping

[opaque sigil]

[random fox]

That takes away from the fun tho, if u wanna use a fun weapon u shouldnt have to worry about it, again ill say this wouldnt be bad in a straight forward game where this is the normal way u do things but in an open world u should get the freedom in fighting with whatever u want without worrying about it

[opaque sigil]

You don't have to worry about it

[stark estuary]

[outer bridge]

Meh

[random fox]

Dont have to but pretty much everyone i know that played zelda never wanted to use the good weapons cuz they always had the "i dont need this now" and "i should be saving this" mindset

[opaque sigil]

That's the wrong mindset for the game

It's like playing Doom as a cover shooter

[coarse leaf]

Most people aren't even gonna use a "fun" weapon, they'll use the one with the most dmg for so long till they find one with more damage, then they'll use that

[stark estuary]

This aged well (pinged your oldest message in the channel to assert my dominance)

[opaque sigil]

I mean 2020 wasn't worth living through so I stand by that

[outer bridge]

Wait you mean Doom’s not a sniper game??

[random fox]

Well in doom the way ur supposted to play is actualy the more fun way, while imo in botw it isnt

[opaque sigil]

So botw isn't the game for you, that isn't a problem with the game itself

If you don't like that type of game fine, but HK isn't a bad game just because somebody out there hates 2d games

[normal token]

Wait what was the debate about

[outer bridge]

Circles

[stark estuary]

botw weapon durability

[normal token]

Oh

[coarse leaf]

Wasn't that one of of doom 2016's flaws actually, they had all these sick weapons you could use to yknow, get people to switch them mid battle and have strategys but people just spammed the shotgun because it worked
Havent actually played the game, thars just what I heard

Does Hornet's thread run out? is it refillable like how soul is refillable?

[cunning geode]

Yep

The latter

[coarse leaf]

ty

[stark estuary]

Yeah it refills when you hit enemies

[coarse leaf]

Tbh, who even hates 2D games?

[opaque sigil]

If that happened I'd be surprised because the weapons were all well suited to different uses

[random fox]

Does that make is so i cant critique the game? cuz if it does than no game should ever get bad reviews since theres always someone that will enjoy it

[opaque sigil]

Somebody does

[coarse leaf]

like, even TGA doesn't hate 2D games, come on

[normal token]

TGA likes everything

[opaque sigil]

Critiquing a game and saying "x bad" are different

[coarse leaf]

True and not true at the same time

[stark estuary]

I hate 2D games. And 3D games, for that matter. I only play 4D games.

[opaque sigil]

And critiques are not above refutation

[random fox]

I said that the things i say are just my opinion several times

[normal token]

Wouldn't be surprised if TGA offers another invitation to TC, hehe would be the perfect moment to release some news

[opaque sigil]

They probably did but that's not the determining factor

[random fox]

Mostly kids from what ive seen since they mostly play 3d games now

Still tho pretty rare to see someone activly shit on 2d games lol

[copper knot]

people who actively shit on 2D games can suck my ass

[opaque sigil]

[coarse leaf]

It isn't that rare, bcz Nintendo 2D games and you know, they're popular

[stark estuary]

[coarse leaf]

my little brother always calls me a boomer for enjoying 2D games 😏

[normal token]

Metroid Dread got nominated for goty so that's something, hope it wins

[coarse leaf]

like, my first game that I ever played in my life was New Super Mario Bros Wii

[copper knot]

what the fuck

[opaque sigil]

Eh, It Takes Two is more deserving imo, but it doesn't have realistic odds

[random fox]

Nintendo isnt rly that big where i am and in europe in general so maybe thats y idk

[stark estuary]

atwhay ethay uckfay

[coarse leaf]

Metroid Dread is GoTY imo, but I would also be happy if It Takes Two wins

[random fox]

I think re8 will win it but imo it takes 2 was best game from this year

[stark estuary]

None of them are GOTY material 🙂

[copper knot]

i literally know nothing about this

make me choose yall

[opaque sigil]

It Takes Two is the most

[random fox]

Yeah true, but its the best we got this year i guess

[coarse leaf]

Re8 doesn't really make sense as a GoTY, mainly bcz there's some better games

[coarse leaf]

Psychonauts 2

[normal token]

We barely got games this year

[random fox]

I went with it takes 2 cuz it didnt rly have any noticable flaws but psychonauts was amazing too u chose idk

[coarse leaf]

That's true, but we had a lot of good indies in this year that didn't get in the GoTY

[copper knot]

honestly one of the problems with only playing indie games is that you know nothing about games on shit like gotys

[outer bridge]

Technically Papa’s Pizzeria was rereleased again this year to get around the death of flash, so I think that should take GotY tbh

[random fox]

Yeah but u know, tlou2 won goty last year so

[stark estuary]

Dread will win simply due to its popularity, and people will refuse to acknowledge its shortcomings afterwards or that it was part of a meh lineup of nominees

[opaque sigil]

Probably

[coarse leaf]

If that happens, people will be really mad, bcz like, even Dread was better than that game

[opaque sigil]

But it isn't the best game on the list

[copper knot]

im not even angry that tlou2 got goty last year. im mostly angry at how many awards they fucking won

[normal token]

I mostly play Nintendo and indie games thrown in some spider-man games too

[stark estuary]

popularity contest

[opaque sigil]

It's almost like TGA isn't really a measure of how good things are

[coarse leaf]

Tbh, I wanted more indies in TGA, bcz it would actually make sense and wouldn't be just a "AAA games thingy"

[stark estuary]

what a novel idea

[copper knot]

[normal token]

When Silksong releases, do you think it will win some award like Celeste did?

[stark estuary]

Genshin lmao

[random fox]

Nah re8 was actualy rly good imo but it def has alot of flaws, i think the main thing ppl complained about is that it was more action then horror but idk if that matters for goty since its titles as an action horror and it def has horror elements

[coarse leaf]

Sure, there's the Best Indie category, but like, what about the other categories?

[copper knot]

fuck it im choosing genshit

[normal token]

I play non of these

[copper knot]

FINALLY, GAMES THAT I KNOW

[random fox]

Deaths door

[coarse leaf]

Probably, bcz it's like, THE indie game that everyone expects to be awesome

[copper knot]

INDIE GAMES GOOOOOOO!

[normal token]

Surprised there's no OMORI

[stark estuary]

Where's Skul

[normal token]

Where's Silksong

[opaque sigil]

Omori was 2020 iirc

[copper knot]

i really like 12 minutes but i also really hate it because of the shitty plot twist
||the plot twist of 12 minutes is literally fucking incest????||

[normal token]

Wait what

[copper knot]

[normal token]

Did it really release in 2020 and was just popular this year or am I going insane

[coarse leaf]

Among Us was 2018, so meh

[copper knot]

it released on december 25th 2020

[random fox]

Tbh when looking at how good a game is i think in general u will find the best and most honest reviews from other players, i mean doom didnt win a single award last year that should say enough

[copper knot]

gonna go with inscyption, its a good game

[opaque sigil]

Why isn't Skul there

[stark estuary]

Snail

[coarse leaf]

I think Loop Hero or Inscryption wins this category

[copper knot]

[coarse leaf]

Because funny clock game

[stark estuary]

@opaque sigil 🐌

[random fox]

The mobile incident

[opaque sigil]

You asked where skul was, I asked why it wasn't there. Different questions

[random fox]

I tried wr and it felt pretty good, only flaw was the community but its a riot game so that should be a given

Other than that idk much about mobile games

[coarse leaf]

like, 12 Minutes looked okay, but nothing to say "It's going to win a prize"!

[cunning geode]

Where the fuck is Bowser’s Big Bean Burrito

Goty

[coarse leaf]

In the GoTY award

[copper knot]

what

[random fox]

Only dunkey was allowed to play it so not enough reviews

[coarse leaf]

where's the context?

[stark estuary]

Can't believe the game comes with a real plane

[copper knot]

NO NONONONONONONONO NO NO NONONONONONONONO NO NO NONONONONONONONO NO NO NONONONONONONONO NO NO NONONONONONONONO NO NO NONONONONONONONO NO NO NONONONONONONONO NO NO NONONONONONONONO NO NO NONONONONONONONO NO NO NONONONONONONONO NO NO NONONONONONONONO NO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[stark estuary]

Dream will win btw

[random fox]

Dream def had the best content of the year with the cheating incident

[outer bridge]

Oh yeah I meant to ask, who’s the best to vote for so the bastard won’t win it

[copper knot]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

i am dreamphobic

[random fox]

Just go ibai atleast he had cool stuff

[stark estuary]

Vote Mrbeast

[tall hinge]

FUSLIE

shes the only one i know

[copper knot]

i am dreamphobic i am dream phobic i am dreamphobic i am drea-

[outer bridge]

I almost forgot that the cheating thing was only this year

[random fox]

Fuslie good but creator of the year good imo no

[coarse leaf]

like TLoU2 (which was a really good game, but I still think that Hades was a little better) and probably RE8 this year

[copper knot]

why the hell is silksong not in here?

[normal token]

No Jerma and Scott The Woz, hwy

[coarse leaf]

like, imagine if a 2D game like Metroid wins the GoTY

[stark estuary]

:despair:

[nimble radish]

what's starfield

[normal token]

I'm more surprised about how there is no Marvel's Spider-Man2

[random fox]

"Tlou2 is good" :trolldespair:

[tall hinge]

isnt this the exact same from last year except for resident evil?

[outer bridge]

New Bethesda IP

[stark estuary]

A field with stars. Self explanatory.

[coarse leaf]

Not my words tho, bcz I never played it

[copper knot]

tga sucks

[random fox]

Why the hell is starfield in there

[stark estuary]

The reveal trailer has a lot of views

[crisp summit]

tga is advertising for AAA games

[copper knot]

whomst the fuck

[tall hinge]

simp

[random fox]

Shoemaker

[coarse leaf]

Also, did some indie game even won a TGA award?

[random fox]

Dont say that, dream stans will dox u

[stark estuary]

Not to my knowledge, Hades came the closest iirc

[random fox]

Celeste and cuphead won awards i think

[coarse leaf]

Yikes, I still don't understand how Hades didn't even win that year, it was a really good game

[stark estuary]

Oh, I thought you meant GoTY awards

[coarse leaf]

I meant GoTY awards

[random fox]

Ohh

[copper knot]

i am actually going to have a mental breakdown from dream being in TGA

[random fox]

Mb

[stark estuary]

TGA is just a popularity contest and indie games are obviously disadvantaged in that area.

[nimble radish]

dream isn't even a game

[copper knot]

[coarse leaf]

Btw, there isn't a category that like, had 4 Nintendo games on it and It Takes Two?

[random fox]

Yea its a cheat engine

[random fox]

Family games, pretty usual tho nintendo always dominates that category

[crisp summit]

there's indie games that are more popular than AAA games

terraria, hollow knight and undertale for example

[coarse leaf]

Yeah, but like, it's just sad how people still thinks that indie games are like, "overrated" or are worse than AAA games

[stark estuary]

This will be a very long read i’m sure, I’m writing this in my bath at 4am on my phone so forgive any mistakes or confusing bits.

[copper knot]

oaaa oaaaaaoaaaaaa oaaaaaauaaaa story of undertale

[coarse leaf]

I mean, Mario Party will probably win, bcz it's a fun game and you can play it online with 4 family members

[random fox]

Barely anyone thinks that now, indie games have been massive in the last few years while AAA games have been falling off

[random fox]

Nintendo online

[coarse leaf]

Mario Party's online didn't look that bad tho, it looked fine

[random fox]

Ppl in the stone age using the stonestation2 had a better online system than nintendo

[coarse leaf]

And yet, I can't imagine 4 people playing It Takes Two

[copper knot]

j

what indie games won an award last year in tga other than among us

[coarse leaf]

I don't think any did?

[outer bridge]

Missed opportunity for “Stoney PlayStation”

[coarse leaf]

like, there was just the Best Indie category and that's it

[random fox]

Imagine playing it takes 2 with ur kids and announcing ur divorce irl while the 2 main characters r arguing in game

[copper knot]

oh yeah hades and phasmophobia won awards and they both indie games

[opaque sigil]

Because... it's played with two

[outer bridge]

Yah Hades won action game or smth I think

[random fox]

I still voted it takes 2 cuz its overall better then all of the others and i dont rly take into account how many ppl u can play with

[random fox]

Didnt hades also win best soundtrack (still mad doom didnt win that)

[coarse leaf]

Now, now, if Silksong releases, I would probably choose that game as a GoTY, bcz some indie game deserves to win the GoTY at least once

[opaque sigil]

If SS comes out in 2022 it won't be goty

[outer bridge]

No FF won that category

[random fox]

If elden ring is like what we have seen so far that will be my 2022 goty

[opaque sigil]

Quality of elden ring is kind of a moot point

[random fox]

U mean graphics?

[opaque sigil]

It doesn't have to be better than SS to win

[outer bridge]

Has there been a demo of elden ring or something or are people just hyped bc of the trailers?

[coarse leaf]

I mean, even if SS was better than Elder Ring, people would just choose Elder Ring as GoTY bcz it's popular, so

[opaque sigil]

Hyped because fromsoft

[outer bridge]

Right that makes sense

[random fox]

Well there alot of playtrus of demo on yt and everyones saying its sick, only compain im seeing is "graphic bad" but thats not rly what fromsoft games are about, and details in game look sick

[crisp summit]

i genuinely wonder how many people have bought hk at this point

[random fox]

Id personaly take attention to detail and good design any day over super realistic graphics

[crisp summit]

i mean, the game hit its steam palyer peak 3 months ago

[copper knot]

isnt it like 5 million

[crisp summit]

very old number

[sacred moth]

Yea TC needs to release new sales numbers

[opaque sigil]

A few years ago it was like 3 mil or smth

[crisp summit]

i'm pretty sure that number was from before the switch release even

[opaque sigil]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's 4-5 by now

[random fox]

Id imagine now its smth like 8mil

[crisp summit]

and the game's clearly still going strong since it just hit it's peak player count

[copper knot]

yeah its gotta be atleast 10

[sacred moth]

They said 2.8m when they announced SS

[crisp summit]

that was very long ago

[opaque sigil]

Definitely

[sacred moth]

No numbers since

[random fox]

2.8 mil im 1 day is what they meant

[opaque sigil]

It's also nice to know that TC's still making money

[crisp summit]

it'd be insane if this was over 8 mill

[serene chasm]

I would say it's at least doubled since then

[random fox]

Doubling it is to much i think

[crisp summit]

the switch release makes me think it's possible

[random fox]

But 2-3mil more seems reasonable

[sacred moth]

I think 5m is a good guess

[opaque sigil]

Eh, I wouldn't be surprised if HK's player base is growing at an increasing rate, or at least was at a point

[sacred moth]

Which would still make it a huge success

[copper knot]

damn thats gotta be atleast 5

[random fox]

Whats the best selling indie from the last like 5 years

[coarse leaf]

Probably Undertale

[sacred moth]

Stardew Valley

[opaque sigil]

They made 2.8 million sales before Feb 2019, another three million in the time since is possible

[copper knot]

i honestly dont think so

[serene chasm]

There ae a bunch of sites that try to guesstimate sales based off of steam stats and sales. Most put HK around 5 million sales

[sacred moth]

15 million for Stardew Valley

[crisp summit]

stardew valley or isaac imo

[copper knot]

what about terraria?

[coarse leaf]

It's the most popular indie game since it came out (besides of Minecraft, that isn't an indie anymore)

[opaque sigil]

Holy shit

[crisp summit]

ohh yeah terraria

[copper knot]

well the thing is. most people dont even play the game. they just watch it

[serene chasm]

Terraria has sold like 30 mil copies

[crisp summit]

i forget how much of a juggernaut terraria is

[pallid flare]

terraria so good

[crisp summit]

it's the 14th best selling game of all time at 35 mill

[opaque sigil]

Isn't that more than like all the dark souls games combined

[coarse leaf]

I never played Terraria, so idk

But now, talking about Terraria, did anyone see that Don't Starve + Terraria are a thing now?

[copper knot]

literally just played them

[random fox]

No i dont think so

[crisp summit]

base terraria got the DST update and calamity got a huge update too

[random fox]

But still 35mil for 1 game holy shit

[crisp summit]

it's been a good week for terraria

[copper knot]

isnt terraria the highest rated game on steam

[coarse leaf]

I mean, DST got the Giant Eye as a new boss fight, so there's that

[opaque sigil]

It may be, as of May 2020 the entire dark souls franchise had 27 million

[sacred moth]

I think a good comparison to Hollow Knight would be Cuphead, which has sold 6mil.

[crisp summit]

that sounds about right

[random fox]

Does that include sekiro and bloodborne tho

[copper knot]

i mean minecraft is an ex indie game and its the most sold game in the world

[crisp summit]

i don't think it counts as an indie game anymore

[random fox]

Isnt tetris most sold

[copper knot]

i said ex indie game

[crisp summit]

minecraft has 238 million sales

[coarse leaf]

Tetris is the most sold videogame of all time, yeah

[worthy cedar]

[copper knot]

no it got beaten by minecraft

[random fox]

238 sales holy shit

[coarse leaf]

I don't think it did, bcz Tetris was like, in every system since the NES

So like, they just combined the sales and it became a really high number of sales

[random fox]

But like who plays tetris now

[crisp summit]

minecraft has almost as many sales as gta v and tetris combined

[coarse leaf]

Tetris 99 is a thing tho

[random fox]

Cant wait for gta 6 in 3022

[crisp summit]

now that people know what hollow knight is i wonder how big of a hit silksong will be

[coarse leaf]

Now, now, I love how indie games are getting a lot of more attention than what it used to have

[copper knot]

wait so i looked at wikipedia and i think im correct on terraria being the most sold indie game

[random fox]

Its the most anticipated indie rn no?

[coarse leaf]

Wrong reply moment

[crisp summit]

terraria is the most sold yea

[random fox]

Wrong reply incident

[crisp summit]

ss is the 4th most wishlisted game on steam if that counts for anything

[coarse leaf]

Like, that's really good bcz indie games have a lot of unique ideas and concepts that a lot of AAA games doesn't really try to do something with it

[copper knot]

i like how they had to mention how silksong is similar to hollow knight

[random fox]

Tlou2 had a really unique story that noone has ever done, it had a.... revenge story

[crisp summit]

if indie games weren't a thing i don't think i'd still be playing games at all lol

AAA games feel so safe and stale

[coarse leaf]

Most of them doesn't feel that they're playing safe though, but yeah, there's not much of a variety anymore

[grim forge]

Last of us 2 hate

[random fox]

It was shit tho

[outer bridge]

omg no way it’s almost as though human nature has persisting conditions which are relevant regardless of context and therefore which appear in a variety of media throughout human history

[copper knot]

controversial opinion: tlou2 isnt bad

[coarse leaf]

Never played Tlou2, so I don't care about it

[random fox]

Tlou basicaly invented revenge amirite

[copper knot]

never played it either but i watched it

[outer bridge]

The exact opposite of the point

[grim forge]

It's one of my personal favorite games I've played

[random fox]

Wasnt a reply to u

[coarse leaf]

I never watched it bcz it was boring for me to look someone playing a game where you need to just walk foward like a sidescroller

[grim forge]

What

[coarse leaf]

For cutscenes*

[outer bridge]

lol “walk forward like a side scroller” is a very funny phrase

[random fox]

Overall i dont think its a bad game, i think its fine as a standalone game but as a game thats a sequel to one of the best stories in games its complete shit

[coarse leaf]

Like, those times that games just thinks "Oh, we need to put more dialogue in the game but we don't have enough budget/time to put a better cutscene"

[grim forge]

I think it's an amazing sequel to the first game

[random fox]

Its so funny how some character litteraly dies and they are never even mentioned again, like killing them erases them from the minds of ppl

[coarse leaf]

I can't really say anything about Tlou bcz

1 - I never played
2 - I don't care about the series
3 - I can't watch someone play that game bcz I find it too boring

I just like 3D Platformers/Open World games in general, so there's that

[random fox]

I want god of war ragnarok on pc

[valid sable]

I want all God of Wars on PC

[random fox]

2018 is coming in january so excited to play it

[valid sable]

Too bad PS3 is alien technology so it's a hassle to port anything from

[random fox]

Tbh i just wanna see ps fanboys reaction to ragnarok not being ps exclusive

If they lose their shit about a 3 year old game they will go absolutely rabid if they find out the new ones not an exclusive

[coarse leaf]

imagine getting mad because more people are able to play a game, truly terrible

[random fox]

Fr

[serene chasm]

But it's our game! Sony is a traitor! /s

[tranquil igloo]

I have xbox and there's nothing to play at all the only good games are Hollow knight, halo, forza and some other shit.
that's why I always spend my gift cards all on robux. 🗿

[random fox]

Damnit sony i trusted u with my life and now u do this

Xbox kinda ass rn no offence, halo infinite is looking good tho

[tranquil igloo]

Ong.

[serene chasm]

Infinite is pretty fun. Playing it on pc

[tranquil igloo]

I only turn it on to stare at the home screen

[random fox]

It looks like a fridge and thats a + too

[tranquil igloo]

Playstation looks like a wifi router

and why does it sound like a airplane about to take off 🗿

[random fox]

The playstation memes where ppl were just putting 2 white pieces of paper between litteraly anything was sick

[random fox]

Ps4 cyberpunk incident

[tranquil igloo]

people are using squid game employees to compare them to Playstation controller buttons lmao

[random fox]

Wait arent the squidbois supposted to resamble cotroler buttons

[tranquil igloo]

if there was an X the memes would've been off the charts

[random fox]

I always tough their faces were supposted to resable controller buttons are they not

[tranquil igloo]

No

[random fox]

What are they for then

[tranquil igloo]

Idfk some shit from south korea

[random fox]

The cookies maybe idk?

[tranquil igloo]

🗿

anyways xbox is dogshit rn

[random fox]

Yeah its pretty ruff, ps got all the good exclusives this time

[tranquil igloo]

Yea

[random fox]

Also when will there be pc2

[tranquil igloo]

they get venom, spiderman and all that type of shit

[coarse leaf]

Most PS exclusives don't interest me that much rn, which is great because that means I'm not gonna have to buy the console just to play a couple games

[grim forge]

The ones I want to play are coming out on PS4 still so that's nice

[random fox]

I wonder how ragnarok will be on ps4, hopefuly not another cyberpunk incident

[grim forge]

I doubt it

[normal token]

I really want to try out the ps5 spider-man games but eh I'll stick with the old games

Been thinking about replaying that 2000 game

[grim forge]

Which one?

[random fox]

The 2000 one

[grim forge]

No clue

[normal token]

The first 3d Spider-Man game

[grim forge]

Oh that one

I always heard it be called Spider-Man 64

[normal token]

Well that's sorta misleading since this game was released on PC, Dreamcast, PS1 and N64

[grim forge]

Oh

[sweet lotus]

And the second one was Enter Electro right?

[normal token]

Ye, released a year later

But weirdly enough, the second one was only ever available on the PS1

[copper knot]

h

[tall hinge]

i

[normal token]

h e l l o

[olive bobcat]

TC dropping news out of nowhere like no time passed at all

[tribal schooner]

This was so fun I played it a lot

[glossy breach]

release date yet lmao?

[silver oak]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[pallid flare]

lmao?

[silver oak]

Lol ?

[glossy breach]

as expected

no problem

[opaque sigil]

Indeed there is no problem

[glossy breach]

there is nothing

ever

[stark estuary]

There is a problem

[silver oak]

There are things

And there will be things

[opaque sigil]

I mean this is incorrect

[silver oak]

Patience, my friend

[glossy breach]

im trying

[stark estuary]

cope harder ||/j||

[dusty nimbus]

What if the news aren't about ss but about a new hk version?

We've been getting some pretty consistent news on that department

[stark estuary]

There is no news. There has never been news. There will never be news. Silksong coming out never.

I politely disagree Quirrel. If Hollow Knight costed more money less people would be able to enjoy it.

It is very noble to want to support TC there are other ways to do that.

[serene chasm]

Buy more copies of hk

[stark estuary]

That's certainly one way

[opaque sigil]

Also TC probably ain't skipping meals because of the price point, if you get my meaning

[stark estuary]

Yeah, they're skipping meals because they're busy incorporating Blackwyrm into Silksong.

[opaque sigil]

[stark estuary]

Interesting

[tranquil igloo]

man you really love chaos

[silver oak]

Well about the merch

HK pj pants? Yes please

[dusty nimbus]

How did you find out?

[fallow rock]

oh yes don`t we all also we have hk notepad

[proud vale]

Morning TGA cult buds ™

[fallow rock]

also this ss tga cult memeber thing ends up in a bust and dissapointment along with getting my hopes up i`m sueing everyone on this channel who sees it

[tranquil igloo]

through your personality

[fallow rock]

MEANING ALL OF YOU ARE BOTH WITNESSES AND WITHIN LEGAL GROUNDS OF BEING SUED FOR LYING

[north salmon]

any news for Silksong?

[stark estuary]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[trim estuary]

Gift copies of HK to friends

[proud vale]

I turn around so I can have deniability

[trim estuary]

TGA might have silksong

[proud vale]

All TGA may have for us is Spain without the ‘s’

[fallow rock]

hey guys who's going to go to #hk-meme and tell to stop posting the same unoriginal memes everday

[trim estuary]

Why not Spain without the P?

[trim estuary]

I shall do it

[dusty nimbus]

Finally someone who sees me for who I'm actually am and doesn't judge me by my cover

[dusty nimbus]

I live in Spain without the a

[fallow rock]

also post (something stupid)

[fallow rock]

so spin

[trim estuary]

Yeah I posted Me when beans when I said it

[dusty nimbus]

Kinda like that but I'm not sure because I'm dizzy all the time

[radiant wraith]

Let them do what they do

[trim estuary]

Why, because it keeps them away from us? Why not let them in and become one of us?

[fallow rock]

you know well what the effect will lead

[radiant wraith]

Let them be

[radiant wraith]

They are always welcome here

[dusty nimbus]

One of us?

They're already a part of us

[radiant wraith]

We are a part of them

[dusty nimbus]

look at this

"Let's talk about tools is still there

And this flowchart is of Tess' era

[radiant wraith]

Just add Blackwyrm and it's up to date

[dusty nimbus]

Most of the stuff in the flowchart is still in this channel in some extent

We're not an exception to the lack of creativity #hk-meme has

[fallow rock]

what the living fuck hell is the nuke of the 15hth

[radiant wraith]

We have things in common!!

[dusty nimbus]

It's the first nuke if I remember correctly

[fallow rock]

about what

[dusty nimbus]

The first nuke of this chat

[fallow rock]

yeah but about what

[trim estuary]

Silksong

[radiant wraith]

💥

[fallow rock]

milksong

[dusty nimbus]

The nuke is the reason the mods have access to slowmode

[radiant wraith]

Fucking Nintendo direct isn't it?

[dusty nimbus]

It was

[radiant wraith]

I'm shivering just imagining it

[dusty nimbus]

Or any event that has even the slightest probability

[fallow rock]

wait the fucking nintendo direct was the reason why the entire channle got nuked HOLY SHIT

[dusty nimbus]

Yes an indie direct blew up chat

Also on the anniversary of HK's release the site of TC got oblitirated

Or was it at the anniversary of the silksong trailer?

[fallow rock]

DAMN

[dusty nimbus]

I don't remember that well

[serene chasm]

both technically since both are around the same time

[gilded adder]

everyone

[dusty nimbus]

There is a video of the nuke but I don't remember it

[coarse leaf]

it was the anniversary of the last blogpost lol

[dusty nimbus]

Hello

[fallow rock]

@gilded adder i need conformation if this happened did you guys really nuke the channel because of the direct

[dusty nimbus]

Lol I don't even remember that but all of those are really close

[gilded adder]

Well, the nuke means that the channel exploded but we did put a big slowmode on it, yes.

[dusty nimbus]

We didn't, the people who got muted sure did

Well kinda did help

Buuuuuut not really

[radiant wraith]

But that one wasn't toxic

I think I remember

[coarse leaf]

didn't simo stop the chat just so he could have a convo with graig once

can't remember when it was though

#sk-discussion message

[dusty nimbus]

Fucking publish the guide already

[radiant wraith]

I think I had my fun right there

[silver oak]

I remember this
It was the night before the blogpost anniversary

I think Simo or Benji gave Graig admin for a few minutes as well

[marsh ibex]

it was either that or he just messed with cherry perms

[fallow rock]

really

[silver oak]

iirc it was just Graig
he got the yellow name and everything

[marsh ibex]

the admins once took away my mod to subject me to the horrors of slowmode

[silver oak]

hey btw what happened with you leaving for months and then suddenly returning

[radiant wraith]

You have to make your messages count on that big slowmode, it's fine with this one

[silver oak]

ye 10 seconds is not bad at all

[radiant wraith]

But having to wait 60 seconds to make a joke about Jack Black as Bowser...

[fallow rock]

jesus christ simo and moderation staff you what did yall do back in decemember

[serene chasm]

sleep

[fallow rock]

NO

[silver oak]

December 2020 was a wild time

[dusty nimbus]

The quarentine time was wild

[silver oak]

And speaking of things that happened in December 2020 hey Zal

[trim estuary]

That does explain #graigs-gardening

[serene chasm]

No seriously. The whole Dec nuke happened while Simo and Benji were sleeping and mods didnt have the ability to change the slow mode

[full rune]

cries in 50+ moderations

[silver oak]

That's why no nuke will be worse than the first one

[fallow rock]

also who here has read about "The lost kingdom of hallownest"

[dusty nimbus]

[fallow rock]

it doesn`t exist

[dusty nimbus]

No more chaos?

[trim estuary]

Also threads make it contained

[serene chasm]

there will always be chaos

[silver oak]

why is this bad
it's very good

[trim estuary]

You gotta be chaotic when you and they least expect it

[radiant wraith]

Go silent after Silksong release and start spamming 2 hours later

[trim estuary]

They’ll never expect it

[dusty nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-18287800

[silver oak]

From my memory December was by far the most active time I've seen this chat

[full rune]

all the mods will be busy playing

[dusty nimbus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/805812400720314468/image0.gif

[silver oak]

Friendly reminder to thank admins for their sacrifice

[trim estuary]

:soulleavewithspaghetti: when

[dusty nimbus]

Not only the mods

[fallow rock]

ah yes the PERFECT WAY OF GETTING THE LORE IN WHILE THE REST WAIT TO GET ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY THE GOD DANG THING

[trim estuary]

Do it when the admins are asleep and when the mods are playing

[serene chasm]

The server should shut down for like a month after the game comes out

[dusty nimbus]

Soon enough

I'll have the same fate as JEF

[silver oak]

How do you know they don't already have it

[trim estuary]

Jiant Enemy Fool

[dusty nimbus]

They're still here

[trim estuary]

True, at least half of them are playtesters

[coarse leaf]

even without edge, it was the most active time

[trim estuary]

Guys remember those times Simo disguised silksong’s application on discord with Destiny 2

[silver oak]

There were like 3 or 4 huge events in this channel alone

[dusty nimbus]

I may leave but the chaotic energy of Window spoiling the game from bombing the chat with spoilers from the code mines will definitelly stay forever

[fallow rock]

OKAY GUYS I NEED A HONSET AND CLEAN OPINION FORM ALL OF YOU WHO HERE HAS READ "THE LOST KINGDOM OF HALLOWNEST"

by dooblebugs

[silver oak]

"Opinion"
Asks a yes or no question

[trim estuary]

What’s a lost kingdom of hallownest

[potent plover]

what

[dusty nimbus]

Don't you mean the forgotten kingdom?

[still elm]

HK jammies

[silver oak]

Very important

[fallow rock]

a hollow fables story

[trim estuary]

ah shoot, here we go again

[still elm]

Now we can hibernate in HK sleeping attire

[dusty nimbus]

Ah bug fables again I'm leaving

[weak spire]

I heard a release date for silksong got leaked?

[dusty nimbus]

Not really

[weak spire]

Oh is it just a speculation?

[silver oak]

It's not from a trustworthy source

[still elm]

It’s a slightly plausible date but eeeeh

[fallow rock]

now wait just a minute we go off topic every time do start this

[silver oak]

Or rather there's evidence that can be used to show its illegitimacy

[still elm]

It has very little legitimacy

[dusty nimbus]

I'm leaving because it is bug fables not because we're going off topic

[weak spire]

I mean they gave us a trailer and all that a while ago so it could just be released soon

[royal wolf]

sup lads and lasses i'm back from hibernation has there been any news since the nvidia leak

[coarse leaf]

yh, i wouldn't base it off the leak though

[silver oak]

We've been saying that since Feb 2019

[weak spire]

Lol

[fallow rock]

what do you hate about bug fables

[silver oak]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[coarse leaf]

base it off tga

[serene chasm]

tHe DeMo LoOkS fInIsHeD

[royal wolf]

now that's a shame

[dusty nimbus]

I never claimed to hate it, don't twist my words

[fallow rock]

who

[dusty nimbus]

I just don't care about learning stuff about it

[fallow rock]

are you

[serene chasm]

how dare you hate bug fables, chaos!

[royal wolf]

i'm me and no one else, no one remotely important simply vibing

[silver oak]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-i-dont-even-know-who-you-are-marvel-gif-15769006

[random fox]

@dusty nimbus why do u hate bug fables

[fallow rock]

okay that's enough don`t dogpile him because he doesn't want to talk about bug fables

[serene chasm]

Seriously. Y'all should play bug fables.

[dusty nimbus]

Sorry but why did this become twitter?

[weak spire]

Man i've seen some hk youtubers who just get a hornet skin for hk and act like it's the most amazing thing ever cause they're short on content.

[random fox]

Why do u hate bug fables @fallow rock

[fallow rock]

who are you

[random fox]

Why u hate bug fables

🦍

[silver oak]

SO ANYWAY, SILKSONG

[fallow rock]

i don't hate it i just never got around to play it because i thought of buying it on steam

[radiant wraith]

I'm not a fan of Silksong

[coarse leaf]

Imagine not discussing about Silksong

[random fox]

@fallow rock 🦍 give babana

[weak spire]

It's not even out.

[fallow rock]

here we call it potassium

[radiant wraith]

exactly

[random fox]

babana now 🦍

[silver oak]

Discuss

Is this good
Is this bad

[coarse leaf]

This is good

[fallow rock]

I see you are a man of great and excellent taste

[random fox]

I think its good

[grim forge]

I think good

[silver oak]

ok discussion end

[dusty nimbus]

This is steel soul depending the player

[grim forge]

[silver oak]

go back to bug tales or whatever

[fallow rock]

I think its good

[fallow rock]

alright

[coarse leaf]

Never played Bug Tales, but it looks cool

[random fox]

@silver oak give caront 🦍

[silver oak]

🥕

[weak spire]

I'm not a fan of far cry 7 which is due to come out in who knows how long

[random fox]

No babana 🦍

[silver oak]

🍍

[digital junco]

omg duck tales 2

[coarse leaf]

I love when this chat doesn't discuss about Silksong, it feels like #hk-general-3!

[dusty nimbus]

Are you Techno

[random fox]

Thanks 🦍 👍

[potent plover]

silksong

[silver oak]

I agree

[grim forge]

When chat isn't on topic

[potent plover]

I disagree

[coarse leaf]

got any pizza with it?

[digital junco]

me seeing hk accouncements turn white only to see merch

[coarse leaf]

When chat is on topic

[silver oak]

Merch
Merch is good

[random fox]

Coconut 🦍 ✋

[coarse leaf]

I mean, the merch is good

[grim forge]

Life devastated

[random fox]

Pinaple on pizza kinda bussin bussin

[fallow rock]

fool we go off topic for two seconds and start another topic which goes off topic for a whole month

[trim estuary]

guys i did the funny fake silksong thing

[dusty nimbus]

Yes, take this pizza

[coarse leaf]

congrats, u have taste buds

Ok, original topic: Silksong date release

[weak spire]

Ha.

[trim estuary]

TGA

[grim forge]

December 9th

[coarse leaf]

I think it's going to release yesterday

[random fox]

8 slices of diabetes

[coarse leaf]

And then, I'll time travel to the past to play Silksong!

[fallow rock]

what

[silver oak]

November 19th

[coarse leaf]

I wish

[silver oak]

I believe in the prophet

[potent plover]

I think silksong is going to release.

[silver oak]

Ehh, I wouldn't be so sure

[coarse leaf]

I think Silksong is going to be real today

[random fox]

Sheesh 🤙

[coarse leaf]

so i've got 22 minutes left, nice

[tribal copper]

I think Silksong

[dusty nimbus]

That sounds like a movie title, make it about a fat person that feels entitled and show the world how they are indeed entitled and make one of their friends (their only friend) gay for character development and you got a deal with netflix

[digital junco]

December 25th 2013

[silver oak]

The chat is pretty active right now

[random fox]

Cuties level movie 🦍

[radiant wraith]

Your future self will get to enjoy Silksong for the first time because you didn't now

[random fox]

Yeah cuz we will for sure be alive to expirience silksong

[radiant wraith]

I plan to be there, whatever it takes

[fallow rock]

don't jinx it

[random fox]

300 years take it or leave it

[radiant wraith]

I will be there.

[dusty nimbus]

Ah yes don't forget to represent pedophiles that's a crusial part in persuading the ceo of the company since you know.....

[random fox]

Mods prob dislike what ur saying

[dusty nimbus]

Prob

[random fox]

Wait that sounds bad i mean as in mods just no like talk about this

[dusty nimbus]

So I'd rather not say things that may or may not be true

[fallow rock]

i will freeze my self just so i can play that game

[dusty nimbus]

Well time to go play some crk

[random fox]

Crk?

[dusty nimbus]

It's sacred text

[random fox]

Is it just short for crack

[fallow rock]

what is this object you CRK nevermind

[dusty nimbus]

Oh no they found me

[random fox]

@fallow rock bulg flabses ?

[fallow rock]

is it short for cracker rock killer

[random fox]

Ok byee

[chilly nexus]

merch restock -> anticipating higher demand -> announcement soon

[coarse leaf]

PauseChamp

[fallow rock]

what

[lunar flower]

where silksong

[marsh ibex]

hmm

instead of copium

[brave stone]

Hmmm interesting TC's twitter has not retweeted the new fangamer merch or the dead cells crossover

[marsh ibex]

in the spirit of the holidays

[distant saddle]

in team cherry's computer

[marsh ibex]

Get your CopeFlakes for 5.99

[brave stone]

wonder if it means anything. Likely not

[marsh ibex]

Copium crystallized into snowflake form

[brave stone]

Ill take 20

[uncut citrus]

I’ll take 45

[marsh ibex]

Great with milk and hot cocoa

Why? christmas magic

[gilded adder]

But the legend says that the copium flakes will melt into pure hopium water given the right temperature...

[digital junco]

mongus

[uncut citrus]

We need 16/1/2022 Celsius for hopium

[dusty nimbus]

They want actual news

[chilly nexus]

12/9/2021... 9 + 2021 is 2030... 20 + 30 is 50... 5 * 0 = 0... 1 0 2 -> 102... 3 digits in 102... (1+0+2)*3=9... Therefore news on december 9th. QED

[dusty nimbus]

This is probably a lie

[opaque sigil]

Well the dead cells thing was at like 3 in the morning for them so that isn't surprising

[digital junco]

silksong 4098 ✊

[chilly nexus]

Silksong was a hoax used purely to test edge sales potential

[opaque sigil]

Merch drop was probably at some ungodly hour too

If they intend to retweet those things I wouldn't expect them to have already done so

[chilly nexus]

SILKSONG CAN NOW RELEASE ||in all serious.. aj! (amazing job!)||

[digital junco]

silksong releases when 10 people do p5ab hitless

[marsh ibex]

That requires levels of temperature that surpass the combined energy of a neutron star exploding and the crispest of memes

[uncut citrus]

Already happened months ago

Probably

[chilly nexus]

Imagine if SS is done and TC is just pulling a nintendo going "we don't think the original hollowknight's lifespan is up. we think we're just about halfway through it. once it's up, then we'll put out its next version"

[formal karma]

why would i imagine that? 😛

[opaque sigil]

That would be nonsensical

[chilly nexus]

It was a command, not a hypothetical

[formal karma]

i mean they wouldn't so no need to worry...

[chilly nexus]

||I do be just josh-in here btw||

[formal karma]

i've been here long enough to know that you've been here long enough to know we all joshin

i just gotta call out 'imagine's

[gilded adder]

imagine imagining

[formal karma]

brrroooooooo

so, folks, new merch- yay or nay?

[radiant wraith]

I never ever buy merch so...

[formal karma]

i would, but canada is waaaaaay too stupid

[gilded adder]

HK PJs

[slow heart]

Crispest.

[gilded adder]

I need that Silksong
It's gonna be long
I can't wait to be strung along
On a grand adventure, bold and strong

[formal karma]

damn, jonny be spittin fire