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great
based
does this mean that we'll finally get banned
Zoteโs boat of nails
Maybe
Nuclear Winter 2: Electric Boogaloo
<3
Maybe
Windows profile picture reminds me of optimus prime
he's not popping up on the Mods list
๐ฅด
How- What
new character arc
was i just fooled?
if newigeg was here he would be proud
So what did I miss here
i finished my assignment
Window has changed their pfp
and name
Hey aluo
character arc
hello sanegor

Wtf
Happy Halloween folks!
yooooooooo
Aaaaaaaa

fevil
this is true
anyone watched jujutsu kaisen here?
yes I have
he's my favourite ngl
lol MY BESTO FRIENDO!
ss discussion is off topic
well I didn't expect this turn of conversation though
vive le revolution
No, it isn't
the gaim ain't out nothin to discuss
you better not make it
Then don't use the channel
||jjk is nice doe|| :3

cant believe the second i came back I go straight back to moderating
shame
wheres that darn silksong
will be out in approximately 3-5 business days I've heard
Later
australia
in the universe
in the shadow realm

Later, Michigan
the right answer was pharloom, you fools

why the fuck did you ask if you knew the answer?
in 3-5 light years
aren't light years used as a measurement of distance
Yes
no it's australia
But so is a parsec and that didn't stop Han
so does this indirectly imply silknever
man. 22 min can feel like a long time
No, it implies silkfaraway
everyone ask when silksong but what about how is silksong?
22 minutes can feel like a long time if you are in a plain white room with one clock in it to look at
welcome to wh-
this has been episode 1 of Chandy's Time Optimization Tactics
You've been li-
you know some white dude killed himself on a throne because of that
what
#sk-discussion be like
"Waiting for something to happen?"
Thats litterally what i was typing
the pale king lmao
Omori cat
noice
welcome to #sk-discussion, you have been living here as long as you can remember.
Catgirl Mari supremacy
this is fake bugs can't use clocks
hello 
you sure?
I want to see gay bugs in silksong
For a second there I thought you got nitro back

give me an example of bugs comprehending the passage of time
no I sadly don't have nitro
Its ok Pyro
aww
Still no nitro tho
the last stag
why would you pay for nitro if you can do this
imagine not having nitro smh 
Elderbug
Hunter says the Infection has been seeping down from above for years


nitro is too expensive, I can't afford
ok I've been proven wrong thrice I am now retiring from my job
Also its a waste of money
I got gifted it lmao
I can buy so much instead of spending it on nitro
:wkroll:
I used to be able to do this, now I'm poor
Gifting nitro is a waste of money

I remember #nitro-boosters
the endless https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/857143816883404800.gif?size=64 chains
good times
I remember when we invented this
I remember the exact day
Simo sent the first wkroll in #nitro-boosters and we rolled off that
lol we made a literal clock out of watcher knights
Same
and the chess game
where each one was slower
Now you poor
man, remember the chess game?
watcher knights chess game?
yes
OH NO I MISSED IT!
it was pinned
was I guess
I remember when one of the mods pinned if ss won't come out in feb take my rank
that was in here
ss is coming out in february
what do I want when searching for a graphics card company,
Reliable programs,
Good graphics cards,
SiLkSOnG NEwS!
the three conditions for a successful buisness
๐ ฑ๏ธeam ๐ ฑ๏ธerry
Thanks thats what i wanted
I would
Dead chat
rip chat
f
๐ป
3scary5me
not as scary as german elections ๐
i'm glad that i don't have to deal with that yet
you got to deal with it but you don't have a vote, that's all 
well yeah
tbh i'd rather one of those than a candian election that changes absolutely nothing but puts us a further 610,000,000 in debt :p
lol yup
you'll still have poutine tho, all we got is bratwurst
bratwurst was iconic enough to be the final level of ice cream machine in neopets though
Didnt know you were a fellow canadian DrJ
but it's disgusting and tastes like fat and nutmeg
That I am! and right back atcha, eh :p
I can see how those two at once wouldn't be the most pleasant, but on its own, I do love nutmeg
yeah nutmeg is fine
Realese hkss - February ,anonced February,hahahha
but I prefer more coarse sausage where you can verify there's actually meat in it
ambiguous sausages are okay imo
it wasnโt announced
also I still have teeth so stop grinding my sausages to a paste 
well is this meat? we'll let you decide
it was leaked, and said leak has a decent chance to be a placeholder
And it wasn't even leaked from TC, it was leaked from a third party's database
testing database
the leak's date is reasonable enough for it to have been a projected date by TC, but the logical reasons for it not being the official release date are: TC wouldn't know the release date that far in advance, and after the steam date leak and uproar, they'd know better by now to use unrealistic placeholder dates.
the leak's date is reasonable enough for it to have been a projected date by TC,
The same could be said for pretty much any date in 2022-2024 or so
if SS isn't out by the end of 2022 imma start calling it vaporware for a social experiment by the CIA or smthn :p

unless we get news from TC about a scope increase
CIA don't go to Australia cuz of dropbears
I mean we have in the past
good, then you'll be 90% of this channel ๐
dang nabbit, my aquarius-ness can't accept that. Gotta keep being rational through to 2025 then
thanks
yo guys i'm sure you already have opinion about nvidia's db leak. what you think about it? can we discuss it here btw?
We technically can discuss it here, but it probably means nothing
these are my thots^ Chanel #2, Chanel #3, Chanel #4, and I'm Chanel #1
@opaque sigil discussion is the only thing we have right now ๐
Sure, but discussion of release date is just pointless and uninteresting 
it's utter trash, akin to the june 12th 2020 leak
and that was more than a year ago, so now we're on track to have SS by april 2023
not... really, but hey
we've talked about this several times over
someone should write some kind of doc or something
?leakpsa
Not it
Yes please
But there's nothing to say 
It means nothing, stop bringing it up, seriously
a doc about why it doesn't mean anything
There. That is the doc for the leak
i'll do it after i'm done with my homework
here I'll make the doc right now
\
"did silksong release date leak? - NO"
done
@formal karma more than a year ago? :/
did someone say doc? I have a lore doc, link in the name^
eww lore
yea- leaks mean nothing, TC doesn't have a release plan

they really weren't kidding when they said edge wasn't a part of their release plan 
here we are almost a year after it
do it
Guess not
do it 
dewit
Nice
react to one of my messages joker
do it
That means you cant see this. Joker isnt the coolest mod
Nah
is there a way to block every single person on the server?
the coolest mod is uhh
leave it
!blockall
no one can emote on my messages if I do it
maybe theres a plugin or somesuch you can use
why people have "lgbtq+ rights" in their nickname? It's fine for me but it's just looks weird
cause rights
I think it's in response to a "nuke" event
should i add "straight" in my nickname or something? ๐ to mark myself
oh is that why? neat
Some asshole was being transphobic and people started changing thier names. It stuck after that
should I add that just to screw with you
@serene chasm ok
you don't need to be them to want them to be treated equal
it doesn't actually help with lgbtq+ rights tho
I could put "free money for everyone" in my nick and it wouldn't change anything
you know you can be stright and support lgbt, right?
and every time someone questions it more people change their names 
its offends people who don't support them, funny
it does
Based enough to be unblocked
well in that case you're just trolling, not really supporting equal rights
it shows that they want to support a cause they believe in
I still support them tho
It doesn't do something for rights but it does something for representation. It lets people know that, if they're thinking of being queerphobic, there'll be people to shut it down real quick cuz it doesn't fly with them.
@formal karma yes, but why should I tell everyone about it?
it's like an ad
why not
it's not something to directly tell you "hey buy this product" but more so it stays in the back of your mind
why does anyone tell anyone anything
if people being open about their queerness or support of queer rights makes you uncomfortable, that's something to unpack :p
just... cause
I imagine it makes lgbtq people feel welcome
I support them irl, I jumped in for a cook that dropped out of a lesbian wedding cuz he's stupid and I didn't charge any money
I don't need some fancy nick to show off
cheesoid sorry but you sound kinda sus rn
you don't, but I'm sure there are people out there who take comfort in seeing the few people who do have it in their name
it's not like changing the nick is any effort, you just type it once and it sticks
why does some people care so much
๐ค
nice convo youโre having
anyway pyro how tf do you have 274 more Os
would be crazy if you just stopped
magic words
he's on to us ๐
Its just a name on a server. If thats the way people want to show support then more power to them. It doesnt hurt anyone and really makes the place more welcoming
I just wanted to say that. Sorry joker
say some of them and the o's increase
Pyroo
pyr
Hey Kids. How bout some tools
bro i'm just live in a country where gay people getting killed. I just think your eu/us countries so safe and comfortable for lgbt people that you don't have to tell everybody about their rights. Their rights already legal in your countries
it's not safe nor comfortable anywhere
weren't you told to end this conversation
I would give a list of eu countries that aren't safe for lgbt people but I can't be bothered
guys let's talk about tools okay
holy shit tools
hold the phone, hornet has tools now?
@cunning geode why should i stop? i don't mean anything bad. i'm not trying to harm anyone. it's just a conversation
the fuck are tools??
this game is going to be the best game ever
cause they mod and its not about silksong
damn what a concept
because the topic is too contentious to have here
Wonder what she will fix with them
was getting a little
fix pharloom
god I canโt believe Iโm doing this
ok then
groozy
@night hull you can stop too

tools indeed
?
you can stop instigating is what i meant
bro this isn't reddit
the reddit shit
Oh
what how is this reddit now
u/Wombat
I mean, yeah, reddit has tools too
ribbit ๐ธ
thanks for the upvote curly
Idea: Hornet's tools are the same things as charms (or at least some are,) but she just uses them differently. It does seem like at least some of them may be magical in nature
downvoted for emoji usage ๐ ๐ :anrgy:
they are best described as "not like charms" tho
Maybe just the blue ones or smth
so instead of wearing her charms hornet throws them at people
๐
Mechanically, sure, but charms are such a broad category
should I post the funny picture again
think of hornets red tools akin to sekiro's prosthetic system if you've played it. They work vv similarly, down to the spirit essence being analgous to shell shards
well try to fix a tire on a car with a charm then 
how'd that send while I was on slowmode?
Not red tools, to be clear
ban pyro for slowmode dodging
mods, please ban me, i have exploited the system
Pyro is a criminal
now that we actually need one all mods are silent 
pyro is a felon
maybe mods forgot how to ban 
we're free
pyro maybe begging to be banned isn't the most wise course of action
see what I mean
keep the secret slowmode technique secret so you can abuse it to troll people the next time chat be wildin
half the regulars beg to be banned, never happens...
well is it?
Pro tip on how to beat slowmode.
its happened before where someone asked to be banned and we banned them
just be a really slow typer like me
they were allowed back in sometime after
fastmode
In my honest opinion
i stand corrected
it would be the funniest thing ever to ban me
it would be really funny
and also no one could blame you since pyro clearly wants it
A pretty humorous action if you'd ask me
if you must know, I hacked the server through pyro's IP, that's how they were able to evade slowmode. If you need to ban anyone, mods, it should be me 
yeah ban them, it was all a joke
we could organize a banning party once the big game comes out
that way you wont be spoiled
tbh I'd love that
I like it.
that sounds delightful
a 7 day auto-ban when the game releases
You get one post on help a day
cuz if i'm weak enough, i might come crawling back here early and spoil things for myself
just make sure you all have a way to get back to us to get back in 
True
i've sent a friend request to the ttacco
You could also just leave the server and spare the mods the effort of banning and reversing the ban 
that's true too
yep
but then i gotta use willpower and all that, which is fine, but like
wait we can leave?
no
being forced just makes it so peaceful
goodbye everyone I'm freeeeeeeeeee
NO you are never allowed to leave this place
smh
but that wouldn't be funny would it
When SS comes out, we will all drink our cup of Ban-aid
Lets start theorycrafting how to speedrun getting banned when the game releases
yep. from the entire internet
there will be spoilers everywhere
I will not be going on youtube at all cuz I just know there will be thumbnail spoilers for SS
That's only a concern if you don't binge SS 
Im gonna play SS until Ive seen everything.
same
I like how TC makes games where the story is like dark souls sort of, but you can reasonably achieve the "fullest" ending without a guide. in ds3 i'd've never known about the assassin disguised as a pot for instance. Same with sekiro and all the repeat evesdropping
GUYS
0% OF REVIEWS ARE POSITIVE
Like if your goal is to fully experience the game, you can/will. you mighht miss small scenes like hornet mourning herrah, but you can fully beat the game
I mean tbf some of the dnm criteria are a bit easy to miss, but if you're thorough it's still very doable
SS garbage game
I knew it
dang, expectations were too high ๐
Like the game doesn't tell you that the awoken dream nail will be something you need, you just have to gather essence
for me at least, it was pretty intuitive ๐ I just tried to explore everything and nearly locked myself out of the first ending
seer is just another noc like snail shaman, want the thing? kill that thing...
bad game
Seer never struck me as, as you so elegantly put it, "pretty sus" but to each his own ig
Tbh, harass tc route plus annoy mods strat best method
I mean for the most part HK characters turned out ok
I'm back y'all, that joke leaving was unusually problematic to resolve
Tiso had a bad time, Zote too, in some cases
hope at least one person found it funny 
Hornet in sealed siblings ending 
a cup a tea and she'll be right as rain
are you expecting to die within the next few years
it was quite funny, I must say
who knows its crazy world we live in
Bretta: Dies, most likely
Zote: Dies, or talks to the air until the end of time
Tiso: Dies
Cloth: Dies, or goes off into the waste (so probably death)
Hornet: Gets kidnapped apparently
The Knight: dies, gets stuck in the Black Egg probably forever, looses their body, or gets stuck in Godhome
Quirrel: Dies
The one who has it the best off is probably Sly tbh
Cloth and Quirrel turn out ok, they're both fine with dying
He has a crap ton of money now
Hornet's alive and healthy
cornifer and iselda r ok
I mean, everyone kinda dies
Cornifer is going to nap for a long time, and Iselda is going to be lonely until he wakes up
Bretta probably has a fair shot, if Zote could make it, and she only leaves in some playthroughs
im sad that weve never met dashmaster
Elderbug is either content, or just kinda...depressed?
His life is either improved or unchanged
His life wasn't that great to begin with
elderbug more like eldercringe ha gottem
Still
who knew every bug in hk is actually depressed
bonus boss time! either way, more story unlocked 
If the release date leak was just a placeholder I feel like TC would have said smthn about it by now.
other than what Leth said
Not necessarily
nvidia made a statement so TC don't have to say anything
true I guess

I agree, but tbh I think TC probably should have said something
What did Leth say?
Someone asked if he had something to say about it
he said
โNo, not reallyโ
so basically an evading statement
And then โ=)โ
why though? nvidia said the leak was data for testing so what could they possibly add to that?
as long as it has a date format they can test fine so it really could be anything
Just because of the amount of fans who do not follow nvidia
it was all over games journals
To some extent, it just isn't TC's mess to clean up
guys tf is a "earlieststreetdate"
street date?
"street date" refers to when you can buy a physical copy in a game store
All I can find is a weird wikipedia article without any sources
those things that existed when dinosaurs were around so most of you prolly don't remember
who even buys physical copies anymore lol
Thatโs because the terminology is top secret
is this more in the context of books and physical releases? why does NVIDIA use that?
Uh okay
I think everyone will once they learn the truth
the hell is the truth
because there still exist physical games media
you don't even own the games you buy on online stores
Well, depends on the store
depends on the country you live in
but why use it with the cloud gaming system
not if you buy them drm free
you still lose access if that store goes down
No?
pyro is actually true lmao
Most games from itch and stuff donโt
well you can't download it
True
You lose access if the store goes down and you lose your downloaded copy
once gog is down i could never play spelunky 1 again
So thatโs why you upload all of it to google dr-
drm free bro
drm free stuff is great

guys look, this is from fireb0rn's video and its the only picture i could find of the database with the dates, and the "earliestReleaseDate" is actually null - the one with feb 1st is actually "earliestStreetDate". im not sure what the difference is but everyone was saying that feb 1st was release date
(me and pyro were just talking about it)
I do not understand what an earlieststreetdate is in the context of cloud gaming
You can buy a code in a case
isn't the point of it that you don't even have to download it anymore
SS could get a physical release
they could but not from geforce now, right?
i dont see a world where ss doesnt get a physical release
No, not from nvidia
they have that data because they may not be allowed to stream a game before people can buy the "game card" or whatever you whippersnappers call it novadays
what's the differentiation between that and a release date then?
idk why that would be the case, seems like all that nvidia would need to care about would be release date
Welcome to the Apopalypse
it's complicated but a release date and physical store access can be different
this makes no sense does it
why are you guys on this?
well was hollow knight physical edition accessible on hollow knight release date?
trying to figure this out
Didnt we decide its pointless
so an "earliestStreetDate" is the earliest point of time that something can be sold after being shipped to stores
yep
why does NVIDIA use that if it's a cloud gaming service?????
WTF
because like I said there could be instances of them being tied to that date
Hm?
it is so it's inline with the store's stretdate?
i was reacting to what pyro said
wouldn't that make it a release date then
"yeah you can stream our game but not before it's in the stores" kinda thing
store doesnt have to mean a physical store
in this context it was
and I already gave an example of a release date being different from a physical release date
sometimes there's both digital and physical releases
and maybe some publishers would like to sell their game through their own store before allowing nvidia to stream it cuz I think they'd make more money that way
yes

nah probably just a hiccup
i'll just... not think too hard about it
go see a doctor 
tbh idk why tc hasnt really confirmed or denied anything, did leth even say anything other than that one twitter post?
because NVIDIA already did that for them
well the easy answer is they don't have to
i know its just weird
nah it's pretty normal
what twitter post
can I drop the doc on y'all
if something like this happens to any other indie companies they would either try to hide it or confirm it
TC can't go around cleaning up the messes of multi-dollar companies
No, nail master
i know but it involves them so
so nothing?
iirc the date even got changed to june 30th 2021
should TC come out and say june 30th wasn't the release date? 
Bye


did someone summon n'sync?
Hot take, cloth's death was more surprising and saddening in the moment than myla's
Slither.io is glitching immensly
Cloth got exactly what she wanted
ik but i was still sad to see her go. after reflecting on it, the death is less sad, but in the moment, it made me more sad
are these people even real
A lot are bots
For me I gasped when she got stabbed and held my breath from then until a few moments after the scene finished and she still didn't get back up
But did you talk to her ghost after?
wdym, myla's death wasn't sad at all
i did ye. her story ark overall was more impactful than myla's for me
whats the general oppinion on when we will get news?
No way to know
we usually get something on december
you think you do but you don't
my guess would be at the Video Game Awards. If the Nvida leek is real we will see the date revealed there
If to hope means to live a lie then I don't want to hope
wdym "if the leak is real" the leak is real but the data is testing data...
like in "if it has date format we're good to go"
Unlikely that they'd determine and announce a date that far out
it could only be true by coincidence, not because it was communicated
same as if you were throwing some dice to determine a date - could be the right one
@opaque sigil I would agree. but the leak was from G-Force now a streaming service. It would make sense for Nvidia to know of have some idea of what the date would be for streaming rights reasons
its also unlikely that they'd ask te cherry themselves
No, it wouldn't make sense for them to know that far out
There's no reason nvidia would need to know that long in advance
VGA and the leak are independent events, one does not affect the other
it is data for testing purposes... not sure how I can put it differently so it sinks in
if there's no known date they'll just generate one
If the data needed any degree of accuracy they couldn't have changed it to June 30 2021
could be Nivida covering their butts
They could still only change it if the data didn't need to be accurate
by changing it they did more harm than good
Btw, it is confirmed there are placeholders in Nividia. FNAF SB was part of the data leak however SteelWool explicitly stated that was a placeholder they had in there for months
Yeah, none of that data is to be trusted
good thing they only use it for internal testing and not production 
may be a soft place holder. Like 2/1/2022. May not be the real final date it could be a month or so away
Do you know what it means to be a placeholder date?
it's not even labeled as "the release date" in the database
A placeholder date isn't an estimate
soft placeholder?
A placeholder date is an arbitrary date that you use because you don't have (or don't want to share) the real date, it has no necessary or implied relation to the actual date
why even use one at all then?
soft and fluffy with the smell of a freshly cut lime
to test your algorithms and methods on data that matches the use case
And some databases require entries for dates
i meant the "soft placeholder"*
Yeah that's just grasping at straws
TGA will likely have SS news if SS is coming out before summer 2022
to set a looser time window with out setting things in stone or posting 2 dates
so if you're hoping for a release May 2022 or earlier, hope for SS at TGA!
that's why you would use a soft date
I wouldn't say it's likely, per se, but it's possible
No reason to give nvidia a wild guess, better to just keep that stuff internal. And no date was ever posted, it was leaked
In fact this whole situation is an example of why it wouldn't make sense for TC to give nvidia anything significant
it is not a wild guess it is more like a estimation
is it impossible to imagine that TC has talked to Nvida about Silksong being on G-Force Now. and maybe they said we think we will be ready near 2/1/2022
Not impossible, just not likely
It isn't even a release date in the database anyways
then that stuff has to be hashed out months ahead of time
It probably isn't anything like netflix, because you know they're entirely different industries
Well still makes sense because TC could have said as early as
In which case the date means fuck-all
could be a month or so off
but that's already happened ๐
Yup, we're inside the window 
exactly
The window which lasts from June 30 'til the end of time
its probably not going to release on june 30th 2021 you know
I know I feel that Silksong could be at the VGA's
It could be. A lot of things could happen
also nice choice for a game to cloud stream
can you imagine playing HK with 160ms input latency? 
It also kinda defeats the whole purpose, which is to play demanding games
It isn't supposed to, it's a date used for internal testing
what does internal testing mean for this? just making sure the database works
yeah, it serves its purpose as long as it's a date
if it's correct or not has no bearing on testing
yes
you usually want to test things like these
making sure all the methods they use on the database work as intended
the database itself will work because otherwise the company making the database software would be out of business
but why didn't leth just say it was a place holder. He was here not too long ago saying how Silksong was not going to be in the Escapist indie presentation thing. Why more or less say no comment on this date?
Because he doesn't need to say it
His reasons are ultimately unimportant
nvidia already said it's data for internal testing, TC don't have to add anything to that
Because we are a year and 3 months passed the LAST placeholder date
It. Means. Nothing
Nvidia knows even less than nintendo
well at least we know the story behind the old place holder
Nintendo, who said development was wrapping up. 2 years ago....
Actually no they did not.
I thought they did but watch the video again
I can't find they lady saying those words in that order
Leth is an omnipotent being, he works in mysterious ways
Ozlin's paraphrasing
but he should or could have said "I defer to Nivda" but he did not
the nvidia statement already says it all
What you think Leth should have done has no bearing on the facts of the situation
maybe leak was planned by leth with fireborn
bUt WhAt iF tHeYrE lYiNg!
No
Morning SilkPals โข๏ธ
So how do video game streaming services work? I would assume you pay a monthly fee to be able to play games you don't own
Good Moring Orange
Hello Orange
if they're liars then you should trust the date even less 
Gday Frenz, we talking about leak?

Unfortunately
why doesnt Leth come into chat to deconfirm every release theory? because the man has a job and its not to sit in here and say no all day
Leth could operate under 'any publicity is good publicity' and deconfirming would drop that
As he has famously done so in the past
randomly
Leth is an enigma 
Lethigma
Why I get ElderC'd Water 
Yeah, you donโt leak 18,000 games for one marketing promo
yeah it sounds stupid to me too now
I mean we have this so Leth doesn't have to do anything any more
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/FTBpaA4Zz0g_VbWLr9WBxxt2-KGeGkE_8YbkDFHtzSY/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/851552332570296401/THEREISNONEWS.gif
ngl as much as I like the guy, a part of me is kinda curious as to what it would look like if Leth finally snapped 
blood. so much blood
Well I think we'll just have to wait until Feb like we had to wait until June
leth would ban us all
And then we will still be waiting after Feb...
Leth is a US resident so we can assume he has all the illegal gun parts required to moderate this channel 
That's the terrifying thing... They'd probably be legal 
just remove feb from your mind
You are waiting.
I have a pasta for you guys gimmie a sec
Waiting is fine by me
illegal gun parts?
These illegal gun parts?
Imagine this, Silksong would be releasing Feb 2022. You have no way of knowing that, so you spend the coming months in the same wondering state with no news.
Would you rather, wait for Feb in no knowledge of release OR wait in knowledge of release, but it's a month later?
thought of terraria too
Leth wit da minishark
He do be fightin' skeletron ๐ณ
wait for Feb in no knowledge of release
That's an alpha move, I would just want to know even if it's delayed
I would want to know even if ots deep 2022
Yep it's better to know your fate 
fair
The not knowing.... that it could be a couple weeks or nine months.... rough stuff
SILKSONG!!!!
Yeah I think it'll start to grate on people even more as we go longer without news
yeah, personally it doesn't bother me too much though
SS is both releasing and not releasing the February
We aren't getting news because they're shadow dropping/j
Schrodinger's silksong
Silksong is only a myth
I mean, in Leth's position it's a good thing to have publicity in a news drought
ye
Thats not 3022. Its just 022.
Actually its 22 years into the upcoming era
Perhaps the loftiest plan in all of history
sadly the date is really an As soon as which is not super helpful
and the dates are for internal testing purposes only
So this is just another coin "weird series of coincidences that lead to a false release date" jar
yeah, but only time will tell
ughggghh it'll all be worth it lads, I hope
I mean I still think Silksong has a good chance of being at the VGA's
It will be. Im sure of it
I mean yeah I think it'll definitely be the best metroidvania (lol rip Ori 2)
Unless they plan on shadow dropping it, I dont see it being at the VGAs
"and the award for most months without news goes tooooo" 
I was thinking date shown at VGA's with the launch being some time around 2/1/2022
When has there been a significant announcement during the VGAโs? All I can think of is smash dlc.
I think the chances of announcement and actual release being apart more than 2-3 weeks get lower the longer the time period
Well leth has said if he were to launch an indie game he would do at the VGA's
and Leth likes Geoff and wants to work more with him
what is the VGA's
Video Game Awards
oh, ight
wuhhh, source?
in the dicord logs
Lets go TACO, welcome to the dream about silksong club
I still havent had a SS dream
comments range from "this is great" to "its ok so far, definitely a 9/10"
peeps complaining about how they wish there was more, but understands because its in early access
everyone was fawning over a tool that was (forgot the name) Trxxxxx? was it Troyves, or Trevers
or something like that
I mean if you're presenting something as evidence it's generally considered good form to present it yourself rather than insist others go find it
I just realised Leth's discord tag is Leth#0001, that's alpha
basically gives you an orange magnetic shield or some shit which absorbs damage and allows you to temporarily increase your melee damage
ya that one
Yeah that's pretty far removed from what you said
I dont think he is serious. Though I know he wouldnt be against it
It's not that he isn't serious, it's just a specific hypothetical
but Leth does like Jeff and would want to work more with him
he could do so with any of the other games he's working with/on
Thanks for grabbing that Curly, does seem kind of hypothetical but at least we know it's on the radar
#sk-discussion message like that is fairly clear
Right so he would want to do announcements with Geoff?
yes possibly for Silksong one would hope???
I mean. Imagine if they pulld that off. Would definitely give a big boost to sales.
You know what. Im on team VGA shadowdrop
Eh, it's an option, but you can't really say any more for it than that
I feel like at most, an announcement in VGA
When are those then 
pretty sure december
See I am not crazy quoting Leth and thinking what he has said may be his plans for Silksong
December 10th
welcome to the team
I didn't even know this path for hype existed
well, I mean, I'm don't think shade drop but
Thank you. It feels nice to be part of something
He's also said he doesn't like the idea of indies releasing towards the end of the year 
That's why im guessing an announcment at most, but who knows
I could see VGA announcing ss for next year
Yo imagine if silksong dropped last year and beat Hades
Would've been bittersweet 
I dont see them doing it any other way. You could do a "coming in 2 weeks" thing, but then people will forget about it, and it will be lost in the storm of holiday releases. Gotta go big
Although frankly if SS had released last year I might not have played Hades at all, so I'm happy to count my blessings
I mean it's either shadow drop or release in two months from announcement
Supergiant asked TC to delay SS so they could win GOTY
I guess but either way, we are both on team VGA hype
They made a deal and Logan Cunningham will be in SS
Well I guess December is the next big bet
yup
ye december hype train let's get people wild
If it not at the VGA's it will be a new record longest time without news
A shadow drop would make a good christmas present to be fair
BRUHHH that would be extremely hype
All the unopened gifts by children hiding in their basement playinig SS :p
Already is, but that doesn't really matter
It's best not to think this will DEFINETLEY happen, though. It's best to just get a litte excited and not overhype things
Think of all the kids who have no idea what SS is watching the VGAs and going "FUCK CoD! Mom! I want the bug game!"
How many people are playstesting SS?
plus the lack of the usual 6 months news might imply that TC doesn't need to because it's close to release
bug game bug game
I just want to watch things burn a little so am trying to spread the hype fever for december
I think it's like 30-something but idk where I got that number so take it with a bucketload of salt
actually that sounds fun OVERHYPE TIME!
A shotgun of salt?
We know Benji, Simo, and Graig are testers, but Im sure there are a few more. Leth also tests, and I know they got help testing from friends and family as well for HK
TC tests
our patience
I'm sure they have heaps of testers
I am not sure Leth tests anymore he has stuff to do with Crowsworn
I think he did say he hasn't played ss since the E3 demo
he did
I am not sure he played that either
Who, knows, everyone on this server could be a tester
how do you know?
Crowsworn is in early development. He's probably just letting the devs work on the game before he comes in to do his stuff.
You gotten to Sherma Prime third phase yet?
SHERMA HAS A THRID PHASE!?
Yeah, but dread lord grindle's much harder
I got stuck, I'm trying out a new tool build
I liked the Flea boss fight but that one attack in its final phase its just bullshit.
Yeah dude when he rings that little hand bell it covers the whole screen with hitboxes, gotta time your I-frames literally frame-perfect to not take 3 masks
I got to the first phase of Lace 4 + garmond and undead zaza but haven't found part 2 of the fight yet (last I saw, garmond was dead for good, and lace rode zaza by its silken reigns off to another room)

You can find garmonds body in the huntress room after that fight as a little easter egg
ye I saw. by choosing the right dialog options I was able to have the huntress return his eaten out carcass to me as a material for a new tool
Have you beaten the silk lurker yet? He is optional but the reward helps with that phase
wtf that's sick, didn't know there was a way to escape the dialogue loop
where do you find him?
inb4 banned for rp
hahaha shit
It isn't really rp tho
let us dream
You have to break a wall behind the silk loomer's hut in the ocean valley
I found him by repeatedly doing the diagonal down strike in the room where you fight lace 2 (with all the white flowers on the floor). Ala SMB3's bowser fight, every downstrike removes a flower, so after enough strikes, you can make a hole to the room below
shit there are two ways there? I'll be damned
just be careful not to fall back into moss grotto** it triggers a change in the game map that removes the fast travel system (temporarily), so you won't be able to make it back to the fight for a while
think the ashina castle changes after beating divine dragon in sekiro
Yeah doesn't it also res every boss?
not all but most ye
even elder pukebug?
Elder pukebug gets buffed big time
If you've progressed the needolin upgrades far enough you can play music to appease most of the resurrected bosses vs re-fighting them. Minimizing the fighting is necessary for the best ending so I'd highly recommend unlocking that capability
Does 4-mask damage now
||resurrected and recommend are two words that I always mix up the double-consonants of||
Right okay, I'm going for dark path playthrough so I offered my needolin to Herrah statue for primal rage mode
nice nice ok
I heard the optional bosses you encounter at the end of that route are some of the toughest, so good luck!
yeah I wanna tear my eyes out already. Like I said, sherma prime phase three is still kicking my ass
Yeah, blood god dave's a piece o' work also
I got stuck for like 3 hours on the garmond and zaza escort mission
are you watching your madness meter? since you don't have your needolin anymore, you'll need to calm hornet's nerves via some other means to make it through the attack you were talking about earlier^ otherwise it deals increased damage to the point of a one-shot
WHAT
Yeah! the needolin is part of the gameplay mechanic and song curse :p
That actually makes so much sense, I've heard if you juggle shakra's shakrom 10 times before the fight it gives a 30% reduction in madness accumulation
omg i didn't think of sharkra's bangle juggling but now that you mention it, she can be found close to that fight
Man. SS sounds complicated
I didn't think Hornet would be this emotionally fragile 
ikr, like she's part weaver already, why can't she just not be affected by the perverted song omnipresent in pharloom
I mean she watched everyone she knew die or become infected. That would fuck anyone up
Yeah bro I did not think those lyrics would be safe for all audiences, but hey, TC's call
the fact that SS has an ESRB age rating higher than its price is crazy
It's so you can save one dollar each year since birth to play it
like a right of passage
the path you take in the game determines what life you will lead
i love the poeticism of that
TC really thought of the player's out-of-game (OOG) experience
Every child must play SS when they become an adult. All is SS now. Praise SS for it will lead us to salvation
Hell yeah, it's a coming of age experience
I wonder why the mods don't like roleplay
SS divides the nation, and leads us to our forged path
Because it's a server rule
This isn't roleplay though, we're ourselves, talking about SS hypotheticals ๐
it's the same thing as going "imagine if the grimm troupe is in SS. omg they're so cool"
Because they are big meanie heads. Thats why. Also RP tends to become weird
(Tammo probably got stuck on the church keeper needolin rhythm based tutorial)
I didn't expect it to be so reliant on motion controls ok?
i want grime in ss
theres a diff between that
and the afformentioned
ehem
"KNIGHT, YOU MUST DELIVER THE THE FIRE TO MY CHILD"
"BUT I MUST FORGO MY DUTY TO SEAL THE BLINDING LIGHT FATHER"
some kids do here
I'm sure SS will have plenty of grime
I pulled out my Guitar hero controller for the needolin sections
oh no mods are here
I hope so!
not only is it cringe, sometimes they usually devolve into nsfw shite
Yo it takes guitar hero inputs? I just used my japenese taiko drum kit motion controller plus
I also used my old guitar hero controller ๐
the red button sometimes doesn't take input though which was frusterating
It lets you use almost everything. Seriously TC thought of everything
I was using the wii balance board with ring fit controllers
true! the fitness mode I still need to try
freak posting hours
Could I use my controller from those old ps3 BUZZ games? with the 4 colors?
Ah, I see you've chosen the easy way
recently saw a thing about geforce leaks so i thought id check if this channel is a mess AKDJJFD
I wish TC released an official Needolin controller for SS
surprisingly not hello 
you guys beat p9 all 7 bindings yet?
Hello, welcome to ss-waiting-room 
A silksong pro controller with cool decals would actually be an insta buy for me
fr
Id be tempted
i havent been keeping up with silksong and hk stuff the past while, hows everything been folks 
na the copy i have to test doesn't include the bossrush mode. I was told to focus just on silksoul and the pacifist playable sherma mode
Limited time SS Switch
Nah dude, just have the madness meter binding left. Once you reach 10% all the bosses turn into the knight and get 10x harder
dont
I'm testing the lace dlc
My wallet can't take it
Doing great. And you?
About the GeForce thing it has been discussed many times already
It doesn't seems to be that interesting, probably just a placeholder
(very probably in my opinion)
yeah placeholder is extremely likely, I just wish they would COMMENT on it

What would you guys want to see in a SS collectors edition?
yeah for sure
Yes
Oh what would I want to see
idk, maybe a map of Pharloom, like HK had for Hallownest, and an artbook of some sort
Cool map, maybe even I giant scratch map you can scratch off as you go
maybe a high-quality little statue of hornet or something like that. Depends of the price of the collectors
A cool poster would be fine as well
Also, yeah a map would be cool
What would you want Curly
For some reason I would love some old retro travel posters for different towns
Maybe some post cards from the towns?
oooh maybe like a travel guide for each of the different towns
That would be so cool
Fleas plushy 
Reminiscent of this
That's a really good idea
yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes
where can I get this?
i'll DM you
I'm sure Fangamer will do the job anyways lol
Yeah fangamer will certainly come through and drain my wallet
Sherma plushie
Also, why not having the hornet's needle as an actual needle ?
That's a bit weird but cool
Ooh hornet themed sewing kit, with her needle and the case with a picture of hornet and weavers
SS sewing kit
Great minds think alike
exactly 
what that thing where you make pictures with sewing?
Embroidery?
I wanna learn more about the cocoon thing in the lore of the game
That would repeatedly stab the plushie
what does stab means?
oh okay, found it, nevermind
I'm learning english I forgot this word
I want to learn more about silksong
Yes
I want to play silksong
me too
Do you guys think there will be information about Esmy?
I want to silksong
In SS
i swear some of you being impatient about silksong would risk your life for ss
I wouldn't
no, I'd risk someone elses
The game is fun and it's exciting but I wouldn't go that far
breaking your neck just for tc to release ss
Just clone yourself and let the clone do it
dude your release date for silksong is when the original game released
calm down man
I thought the leak was ss in Feb 1st
sorry if that sounded EGGresive lol
Alright i will leave.
It's likely just a placeholder date
I don't think there is really much into it.
Hornet's soul is integrated with silk. When you die, you leave your SOUL behind which is mainly how the knight obtained soul.
Hornet dying however also leaves a cocoon behind, because, well, silk is literally a part of Hornet's soul.
Generally soul would just fade away, but silk is solid, it will stay where hornet died just like how a skeleton/corpse would stay where someone died.
If anything it's minuscule in comparison to the shade lore wise
Yeah I was just wondering if there was equivalent lore
just level mdef 4 head
magic defense?
Ah
Well I guess I can't really say I'm looking forward to it but who knows
As of right now tbh I personally just see it as a personalized silk spool (imagining that Hornet's silk is the same as a weaver's).
It's important because it's silk infused with soul, but also not really because it's just one cocoon out of countless amounts of weaver silk spools in Pharloom
Then again, who knows
Well see
Hmu ๐
Thats what i said! Everyday!
No news today ! But tomorrow for sure

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