#sk-discussion
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I’d assume so
Yeah
yeah you can post it here
You can post it. As long as its not nsfw
Dwayne "The SHAWck" Johnson
So TC has decided to do one non game media thing for Hollow Knight. What would you want them to do?
what do you mean by this
HK comic chapter 2 
For example a show, book, movie, visual novel
I really do hope they do a chapter 2 of the comic.
live action hollow knight but it has a comically low budget
Animation for quirrel backstory
Its just William and Ari larping in their backyard
they printed the faces of the characters and have them taped to their face
I could maybe see a visual novel in the future, not when their still working on games though
Why not William and Ari larkin in their backyard
all the budget goes into the music
still comically low budget though
just all of it allocated to the music
Joking aside a short animated movie would be cool
HK and SS both have had some nice cutscenes
let's hope there's even more in Silksong
Agreed. I would love to see Ari flex his animation chops. Of course they would hire others to help out, but still
I'm sure there'll be more than just the opening sequence
Even if only for the ending(s)
i meant more than hollowknight
it's been a while but I finally made another silksong haiku:
Ring of the Hammers
Symphony of Production
The tempo seems off...
Im sure it will. HK had about 9 min of cutscenes. I can see SS having a bit more then that
Although some of that was a bit redundant, considering how similar EtV endings are
Thats pretty much the only one (that I can think of)
All cutscene animations in Hollow Knight. See below for timestamps:
0:00 Prologue
0:31 The Knight returns to Hallownest
1:08 Stagway travel
1:12 City of Tears Memorial Fountain
1:32 Upgrading Nail
1:37 Learning Nail Arts from Oro or Mato
1:41 Learning Great Slash from Sheo
1:52 Salubra's Blessing
1:56 Lurien's telescope
2:14 Herrah's Seal break...
Where is the 4K 144FPS
oof
I wouldnt have counted the dreamer seal breaking as different cutscenes, so that cuts it down by a minute
Same
Any news whatsoever?
nope
?sspsa
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
some leaks that mean less than nothing
Ahahaha 
We lost another one
Hasn't Silksong's enemy count already passed hollow knight's?
Did so coming on two years ago
well what do we know so far. leth tweeted a smiley face. that means he's happy. the only reason leth could possibly have for being happy is silksong coming out soon. therefor......

Leth is always happy
theres literally not enough straight jackets in the world
you cant straightjacket me id gnaw through it with my teeth at surprising speed
nah, Florida

US had an entire political faction that just said "there is no war in ba sing se" to a global pandemic so yeah, that's fair 
Water you know Florida can only contain a portion of our country’s insanity
a big portion, but still
well Zaliant is also trapped with him in there
it's where they store all the ligma in deep freeze
unavoidable casualty
His sacrifice will not be in vain
remember when people thought that liking a tweet meant news? fun days...
you mean yesterday
You say that as though the fandom has advanced
i saw silksong in a dream last night that's evidence right
Hell these days people think that Leth saying nothing at all means news 
like i said, fun days
hhahahaha
oh, nice
539 silksong dreams what's the magic number we gotta hit to unlock the release date
Wait how
when the number in my name counts up to 200, we'll get silksong
0
kill the dreamers
remove the seal and stop the infection
the catch? you don't know by which metric it increases
who's the final boss we gotta defeat inside the team cherry egg to unlock silksong
Imagine Dream playing Silksong
Dunno who that is but I also don't care
Ouch
Tammo has no fucks to give
dream is the reason sad-ist doesn't make hollow knight animations rip
wheeeeze
(because they do dream animations instead which is ofc their right as an artist and fan just to be clear not ragging on sad-ist for not doing hk stuff anymore)
K, but like, w̶͚͒h̴͖͑á̵͍ţ̷̛ ̴̥̂ì̶̧f̶̥͘ ̸͎̈
Im sure theyll start doing stuff for SS when it comes out
I hope so
Im pretty hyped for all the awesome fanart SS will spawn
It's already spawned some nice stuff
SS my beloved
Pfft
Im gonna marry SS
Fair enough
BTW Curly, did you see my ping in the OW server?
He’d like Phase through the wall or something
I did. Saw it a bit later so I didnt say anything, but yeah. Thanks for tagging me
No problem. I will keep all of you updated with my journey.
Playing Overwatch
For Silksong? Yea, they're bound to be really interesting and varied. And I'm glad TC is keeping the traditional quest lines from HK intact in addition to the more standardized quest system.
There is going to be one character in some random side quest that everyone will fall in love with. mark my words
I believe Silksong must be a game with much richer content than HK
But I don’t know how long the wait will last
TC believes that too. Thats why they are taking their time
It's going to be Seth or Trobbio or both. I'm calling it now.
Seth and Trobbio both seem a bit more significant
Nah. Those are main characters. Its gonna be a completely non story related character.
Ah, true. I get ya now.
Like this vessel
I think TC can release the 2019 E3 demo for everyone to play
This will at least make the waiting process less boring
Can, maybe, should, eh, not really
The bell city looks so good, the one where all the houses are hanging from the ceiling.
uuuh they're never releasing the demo
That demo is outdated and wouldnt give people a good impression of the final product
Agreed Jonny. I cant wait to just enter all the homes
This bug is probably not a vessel 
ngl the bell city's sheer number of apparently enterable homes is impressive
Plot twist everything in ss Is void except hornet
I have to say. I love how unique every character TC makes has a unique look to them
Waiting for too long makes me now have no requirements for the quality of the final product. I think TC is just releasing a flappy hornet and I am very satisfied
Also hi everyone
How are you all doing?
||That phrase Is totally burn by now||
Regardless, the vast majority of people do care about the quality of the game
Doing well igna. How are you?
Doing good, nothing new tbh
demos are usually not that helpful for game sales anyways
Kinda a random question
Is there a discord dedicated to random chatting?
Maybe only I would think so
Yes. Its called #sk-discussion
Xd
I wanna pick up a english voice chat to practice pronunciation but dont know were to start
Join a few servers of games you like and join the VC there. Not sure if there is a big general topic server. Most of those are just small friend groups
yeah
I see
Would there even be vessels in Pharloom? Only TK and THK ever escaped the abyss.
Probably not, but it isn't true that only TK and THK left the abyss, others made it out
probs could be
Them plus Broken Vessel. and the green path vessel and the few vessels caught by nosk
cuz TK had travelled beyond Hallownest but idk about other vessels
If others had, they would have been called back too
I think it would be best for TC to not have too many direct links to HK. It makes the universe feel smaller than it realistically should be imo.
huntress is a full grown vessel #shitlore
Now put that in lore 
but what about griiiiimm
Silklore
Thats like jumping into a tank of ravenous piranhas
Exactly 
I like living
It would be about the same as jumping into a non-spoiler-tagged rant about every boss in the game in #hk-help
😦
I think other than Hornet's past, the weavers, Herrah, Deepnest, and maybe some Pale Court lore, TC should stick to completely original content for Silksong. The most I see them doing in regards to HK other than what I listed is having a Mister Mushroom cameo.
I dont even think we need Pale Court lore
Even PK stuff's a bit much imo
I only mentioned PK stuff because in an AMA a while back they said how they wanted to incorporate lore about the 5 Great Knights but not in dream form.
Knowing TC. Any reference to HK will be cryptic af
Can't imagine great knight stuff coming up all that naturally
Yea, true. We'll have to wait and see.
I feel like the said a lot of things in the AMA that isnt gonna become true
That would be best in #hk-discussion.
fucj
No worries.
i thought htis was hk discussion
Oh, lol.
i would love to have another AMA instead of a blogpost, but it would have to be SUPER curated
They would have to sift through so many release date questions it would just be more trouble than it's worth
An AMA at this point would be too chaotic, I feel. Back then, HK wasn't as big so it was easier to do and manage one.
It would have to be after the game comes out
Plus, all the release date speculation and hype would bloat the questions.
Oh yea, true. Jinn and their masters and whatnot.
About 3 more months until the 2 year anniversary of the last blogpost...

🕺
This song is still so beautiful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6b-lWhn8pg&ab_channel=ChristopherLarkin
This is a preview of the music for Hollow Knight: Silksong.
Featured Soloists:
Violin: Lachlan Bramble
Violin: Emma Perkins
Viola: Linda Garrett
Cello: Gemma Phillips
For more info check out www.hollowknightsilksong.com
Yeah. Bonebottom is very underrated
They should release the full version of Moss Grotto
Bonebottom is very good for what it is, an atmospheric soundtrack
I'm hoping for a couple more tracks before the game's release but that could be a pipe dream.
idk if I really see a point in that, but maybe
Yea, that's just the hype and anticipation in me talking, the craving for anything Silksong related.
Silk🅱️ong
The game is going to ruin gaming for me
I mean, HK already did that to my view of video games
HK simultaneously introduced me to and ruined for me the metroidvania genre 
SAME
It was my first proper Metroidvania
Then I played others like Super Metroid and Aria of Sorrow
And Unworthy
And none have beaten HK as my favorite
Ive played some before, but never knew what the genre was called. They were always combat platformers with large worlds.
Nothing else quite scratches that itch
Unworthy was able to scratch that itch for a bit tbh
Mainly because i found a way into a late game area super early and didn't find the hub until way after beating that end game area
My first MV was Dust an Elysian Tail
Hopefully, Crowsworn is able to fully scratch that itch (in addition to Silksong)
Crowsworn looks like it will, at least
same. Blasphemous came pretty close
Blasphemous just didn't do it for me, idk why
I do plan to get back into Death's Gambit with the new update/overhaul so hopefully that does too
Im also excited Haiku the Robot
I have not heard of that game
Haiku, the Robot is a cute, exploration and adventure game where you play as a small robot tasked with saving the world.∼ Explore a land of corrupt robots and machinery ∽Get lost in a machine world fallen to decay, map unexplored areas, and encounter quirky robots, both friend and foe.∼ Discover different items and abilities to reach new areas ∽...
Coming soon
I love that HK inspired a lot of new games and devs
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1104600/Rune_Fencer_Illyia/
Also another MV Im looking forward to
Rune Fencer Illyia is an intense, atmospheric action-platformer with a heavy focus on exploration and combat. Traverse an enormous, mysterious and dangerous world, meet strange allies and enemies, and outfight your numerous foes with fast-paced swordplay and powerful runic magic.A young Runist named Illyia of Moonstone wakes up in the debris of ...
2022
Awesome, wishlisted this one as well.
shame everything is compared directly to hk, feel like thats gonna turn a lotta people away from a game that really is good, but not onthe same scale
Yea, agreed.
But I like to look at this way: If a game is inspired by a game that I really like, that's a great thing because it means I'll probably like it a lot.
I try to do my best not to compare games to HK but its hard
There’s this really cool 2-D mystery game that’s really fun
It takes after Hollow Knight a bit
Has lots of deep and dark points to it
One of my favorite games ever to be honest
What is it called?
amogus
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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@ mods
:(
Sorry gaming
Tbh why is silksong not here
Because TC is still working on it
They got lost
If the game is not released, it means they're still working on it.

sooo
Yeah I’m really glad more games are coming out like hollow knight, something about it sets it apart from other games for me and I constantly have an itch for more
That's not necassarily true
Its noon on sunday there. So maybe they arent right now
well i dont mean that either
im kinda surprised not many here are talking about the leak
o ok
you weren't here when the leak was first unveiled
also not entirely sure just how many people in the community heard about it
Que es?
i was wondering if it was bannable totalk about or somethin
i reckon a lot found out after fireborn made his video
I havent heard about it is it supposed to be under wraps or something
oh no its not bannable, thats crazy
OK cool
ok so june
its literally a random date that nvidia had
and then it changed to another date that was earlier this year
it's not an insane date but literally any date isn't insane at this point
if it means anything, good luck fucking figuring it out
what was the date
Feb 1
This is the first I'm hearing about this. Wasn't it always Feb?
then it was changed to june?
i believe it changed to June 30th 2021
I doubt it, its coming out october 10
leaks a date
date changes
people still believe op

which of course, was a few months ago
throwing off the scent
October 10th all the way
its all just nonsense really
anniversary release or fuck off
the only scent in here is the oderless gas known as copium
like i said, if you wanna try and glean any information out of this, good luck
good fucking luck.
facts
SS comes out on Day 1000 after the reveal
Zaregoto-da. (It's Japanese for nonsense. It's a reference to my pfp)
I just thought the timing was funny
Baka. It's japanese for you, Jonny
Ahhhh what song is your bio
WOW. I see how it is.
Wait its Bloodhail right
damn right it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh66sJQUVm8
I feel the top of the roof come off, kill everybody there as I'm watching all the stars burn out, trying to pretend that I care.
But I didn't, no-one ever does, and I would, no-one ever will
Can't you see it's all flown out of my hands and our clothes are all too often ripped and our teeth are all too often gnashed and it lasts as long as it p...
yes hello anniversary release
Lets judge ttacco's musical taste
same to you
You can judge mine since I'm listening to my likes playlist on Spotify rn
instead of putting music lyrics in my bio i just made my pfp an album
so far 2 people online have said they knew what it was
I have no clue what it could be
i thought you had video game music from the art ngl
i thought it was dionsaur
I'm hoping for something in Feb of next year but not exactly a release.
i cannot lose the taco pfp you get me
If it's release, that would be amazing.
I like it
its good doomer feels
especially because of the implication of making stairs to kill god with arrowheads or some shit
which is basically any JRPG plot
or Kirby
but with japanese highschoolers
Kirby the Eldritch God Slayer
Does my music appear on my profile?
no
you need to enable it
Spotify, you mean?
Potato
I did, not sure why its not working
random = funny
Maybe restart Discord?
Did you link your Spotify account with Discord?
knaye west
https://youtu.be/chFL_8M8ozM?t=333 earthmover is still my fav on the album tho just because of the cilmax (volume warning)
The sixth song from the second CD "The Future" and the final track from Have a Nice Life's debut album: "Deathconsciousness"
I'm finally finished! This is the final track on the album and the last one to be made into a lyrics video by me, I'm not exactly sure how long it took me since I accidentaly deleted my old videos before copying their des...
I wish Hollow Knight 3 would use post rock in the future, not a lot of games uses that genre /s
someone threw the drumset down the 100 flights of stairs outside ttacco's apartment
Hornet Oreo
is this "hornet oreo" thing some kind of shitty raid
they should throw me down 100 flights of stairs 😤
This is the second time someone has posted Hornet Oreo in this chat
Hollow Knight 3? The second game isn’t even out yet and hasn’t been out for a long time
I am the one who started hornet Oreo
oh its a #hk-meme trend
hey i can vouch for Hollow Knight Infinite
the next me-when-beans phase
I doubt they’ll ever be a hollow knight 3
The goal was never reached anyways
Please keep memes to #hk-meme. Follow each channel's topics.
tis a joke friend
that would be insaneee
yea but as millionares im pretty sure TC can make it if they want, or move on
i dont expect HK3 to be out in several years
like ozlin said at the end of the day its their choice
but honestly i feel like they would be kinda burnt out with HK's world since theyve been working on it for a long time
Well, yes and no, games take lots of effort and work to make
Fearless Fox when /s
And also funding
fearless fox rn
imo, i feel like the idea of a whole new world helps a lot with motivation because that means they can generate as many ideas as they want without being restricted with the original world of HK
theyre not "oh we cant add this, because that would conflict with this aspect of hallownest or what not, or it wouldnt make sense"
new kingdom means they can go as batshit as they want
Its never coming out
one part of silksong im most excited by is exploring other parts of this universe they created the foundation for in the first game
yrue
its like "here is this kingdom in bug world. wanna see what else is happening in bug world?"
i do
yea like... is SOul or Void used different? not present at all? these are the real questions
i wanna see bug world
That's why I think Silksong should be mostly original content without too many ties to HK outside of the obvious ones.
my personal fav idea thats probably never gonna happen is if void expands throughout the lowest reaches of the "earth"
ive been way out of the loop has leth said anything about the February leak
he smiled
=)
? can I get a message link I’m curious
it was a twotter
i mean, it's not real info, sorry
oh Twitter
like if its a huge ass mega kingdom back then, sprawling though a huge part of the world, could it possible mean theres untapped resevoirs in the ground like oil 🤤
Feb 1 is the new JUne 12
dont make the american within me thirsty
at this point I care so little about silksong release date. I don’t believe in any leaks for a second and honestly I don’t even care when the game comes out at this point lol
welcome to the club
I’m just curious about what leth says bc that’s what matters
thats actually one of the requirements for being on staff
we just dont give a shit
oh sick does that mean I get to be a mod now
ha
when does my paycheck get here
no
😦 1984
Stupid discord emoji autocorrect
i honestly want silksong to be out, just to hear the avalanche of interviews
I want Silksong out so I can listen to the full OST and of course play it for myself.
yea, OST
NEED the OST expeditiously.
yeah im pumped for the ost too
i think the game looks pretty and has a cool feeling to it
Lace and Bonebottom are already so good. Imagine the the other songs. 
best part of hollow knight was just knowing nothing about the game and like. standing in green path looking at the environment and thinking about what the area was like in the past and what’s happened
i hope to bug-god that greymoor has a theme... no more Deepnests
thinking about what could be in the foliage of the area and what not
im excited to get that feeling with silksong again
i saw a fake headline "gamer doubles back to make sure they're on the wrong path" and I couldn't help but think of my every double back in Silksong...
gonna be tite
tit?
tight
at least if we're not getting silksong we're at least getting jack black and seth rogan in a mario movie

Why is every mod in here?
obviously cause silksoon
If 3 mods was every mod we would be in a lot of trouble
Oh
You could handle it Wombat. I believe in you
I’m an idiot
your belief is misplaced
Also at the soonest is in February
I don’t actually know the amount of mods this server has
At least 2
maybe 4
Nah it’s probably close to 5
I think I am also very annoying to the hk memes mods lol
'maybe 4' is 'probably close to 5'
mfw I try to be funny and fail
its fine
everyone in hkmemes is annoying to the mods
Everyone in hkmemes is annoying
Aw :c
I am the creator of the hornet Oreo meme so I am probably annoying to them
I mean you’re probably not as infamous as the guy who created me when beans
I made war on these guys
Which is a meme so unfunny it bled into this chat on occasion
all memes are unfunny
Yea it started getting annoying
Yeah but “me when beans” is the apex of unfunnyness
yea but milksong tho
Hornet oreo shall team up whit the actual funny memes to defeat it
but there aren't any
I don’t see milksong as much as I used to
except that one full metal alchemist meme...
Or maybe because I’m not on Reddit
no it's dead, i was more saying that it was the apex
low key our meme game is extremely weak compared to other games tbh
Ah I see
others manage to reach this level of shitposting, while we always stick to existing old outdated formats but "its drawn with hollow knight characters instead"
Yeah at least others are consistent
So that meme got dethroned by the “me when unfunny food item
Like “moon lord legs” and “why won’t the guide move in”
Me when kiwi
memes dies in 2012
theyre funny as well as in the context of the game itself, whereas we just latch to whatever popular format is and just redraw it with HK chars
Most of #hk-meme is the same stuff spammed so superbly often it’s seriously starting to suck the life out of me.
same with ss-dicussion
haha im about to destroy this chat
silksong doesnt exist
silksong is a myth
silksong is just a hallucination
am i funny yet?
oh wait i forgot
put on clown makeup
At least with #sk-discussion It’s not insert hk character spazzing out with a header above them
for a taco shaped person you're making me very sad...
Someone rando race me
haha silksong is gonna show up on this direct 🤡
gawd... clown memes are such butt
Agreee
clown memes has overstayed its welcome
spammed every direct
at least get better material
like that "NO SILKSONG" but in the font of the direct
i hate after the directs and people go "we can take off our costumes until pax aus." like..... stahp
i'll never understand these life forms
seriously its just pure cringe
it was funny at first
but then its the only joke people were capable of making
mhmmm, was it though?
We will wait patiently for silksong and praise team cherry even if it’s good or not
Apparently this people this it’s funny to consistently do this
hopefully we won't praise them if its bad... that'd be insanity
the first time i was like "haha were in a circus waiting for this fucking game" now its just "jesus christ please stop we get it with the clown memes""
No Silksong news again…..
Every Indie direct it’s just:

They work hard on silksong so we need to respect them
the twitter and the reddit doesnt help
Just remove clown emojis during direct ez
good idea
Silksong trends on twitter every direct 
FunPimps works really hard on 7 days to Die, but its an ass-game and I'll tell them as much........
What’s 7 days to Die?
I don’t think we’re allowed to talk about those here
they need some fucus, BAD
can a zombie survival game be anything but ok?
Focus?
Well,they worked hard on it and even if it’s bad we gotta respect the hard work
Anyone hoping for Vessel/Hornet for Smash Bros.
the devs just pick things to work on and never really come together
That will never happen fish head
Never gonna happen.
I mean, people crunched hard on Cyberpunk and look at how that game turned out
that's a publisher thing, tho- iirc
cyberpunk makes me happy that nintendo has literally nothing to do with TC
But silksong is going to be good and I’ll play it even if I am a grandpa when that happens
Well the publisher was responsible for the crunch because cd was worried about investors
but but i want game out now??? 2d platformer shouldnt taken that long thooo
I’m glad Team Cherry doesn’t have to worry about investors….I think
yes. its super easy. TC is being too slow
oh, man I can't wait for the "Pax Aus is 10 months since news so it makes sense to have it there" crowd
And then people are gonna spam clown emote at that crowd
The pattern is 6 months, not 10!
The clownkin emote might be my least favorite emote of the entire server because of how it’s used
truth
didnt they turn down a fuckton of offers
from what i remember at least
they got a ton of offers to buy them and shit and they just said no
TC got offered to be bought out?
Yeah they have turned down a lot of offers and requests iirc
I can't think of one in specific though but I recall hearing about it
and iirc some of them included shit like TV shows and what not
and from Leths word it was like, TC just doesnt wanna "commercialize" the franchise
iirc correctly mobile games wanted a HK port, TC said they'd do a different game instead and the mobiles games said 'ewww'
i guess its from an artist's standpoint
It rings a bell 
Its not surprising them for them to get TV show offers
He will be in silksong
Anyways I came here to share some ideas on enemies:
Overgrown Knight - One of the many knights that live nearby the Moss Grotto, uses moss to camouflage and defend their fragile bodies, making it harder for Hornet to take them own on combat. As a last resort, they shoot out moss in all directions to be freed from moss and become more agile and deadlier, these enemies pursue Hornet and have acrobatic skills to chase her even across platforms.
Fire Leech - Enemies that live within the lakes of magma on the lake of lava and the fiery depths. These enemies have a rock layer on top of their shell that allows for them to rest under the magna for and avoid predators. These enemies lurk under the magna awaiting for prey to get nearby, snatch them, and drag them into the fire.
Vengeful Shadow - A being of void skillful in the dark arts, this fighter wields a sword made of void and utilizes void arts such as sharp shadow to overwhelm foes like Hornet and slice them apart. Their body and mobility makes it easier for them to take hits with little to not harm, most attacks just piercing through them.
Who likes death?
why the question
Dieing is cool
what
The death mechanics in SS are interesting. I wonder how they will handle the fact that you dont get your non stringed rosaries back
When you die you become a cocoon
You leave a cocoon. Not become one.
Well I mean
Like in hk you die you become shade
I mean the shade is where you die
Like the cocoon
Imagine turning into an Oreo
ffs
Oh losing money is going to be the challenge at the start but after some time it will not be that much of an issue
Also when mastering hornets controls it will be epic for speed runs
We will all definitely watch silksong speed runs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWpgWPtB_Vc wtf this was 25 days ago?
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It feels like it's only been 5 days or so lmao
you mean the leak that means nothing...?
The leak means nothing right now because you'd have to wait to December or January for the chance to see if TC actually sticked with that placeholder
What do you mean the leak that means noting?
Well,at least we have something to work whit right now
the last leaked date was june 12th 2020
it's.... not something to work with, though....
Wasn't it June 2019
The trailer was in 2019…
Well at least we have some hype
But anyways that "leak" which was really more a whoopsies on TC's side was just a half assed placeholder they made week 1 after the trailer for June 12 2019/2020
This """leak""" does hold some water because it's a placeholder date made now 3 years almost after SS's announcement.
Still, it means nothing right now. We still have to wait 4 months and a half to even see if the game is near completion.
we already had hype, we didn't need hype, hype is worthless
So if it isn’t in February well just wait
But anyways that was besides the point of my main comment
I was just surprised time has flied so fast
A game like that takes a long time to make
Like I actually swear this feels like it released a week ago 
Oh well the faster time goes the merrier
been a quick year
I can't wait till the date comes, nothing happens, and then everybody will come to this channel to babyrage
last leak we had came with riddles
Idk even if the leak itself is nowhere near accurate I still have a good feeling that the game will release later this year or early next year.
Idk why all of a sudden so many things that have been in dev hell forever are beginning to release and SS is giving me the same vibes
Early next year*
development hell usually means that development is stopped
or never got off the ground
Huh, I generally understood it as in something being in development but taking forever to come out either for good or bad reasons (the most famous example probably being yandere sim lmao)
Development hell is never a good thing
just taking a while isn't development hell, like Elden Ring was never in development hell
Tbh it's better they don't release a date so they arnt felt even more rushed than they are now
klei entertainment animated their release announcement for ONI and missed it
Oreo net internet
imagine
that word is almost as bad a clown
I might be way too hopeful but i think silksong is gonna come out before april of next year
Idk i think a february release date would make sensr
Hey Silkpals ™️
Hello HollowBud
You would not be alone in that desire friend
Imagine this, Silksong would be releasing Feb 2022. You have no way of knowing that, so you spend the coming months in the same wondering state with no news.
Would you rather, wait for Feb in no knowledge of release OR wait in knowledge of release, but it's a month later?
Yah same lol
its a pretty tough choice, a month later really isnt that bad
I would rather look forward to it and wait another month than continue in the purgatory 
No, not in exchange for knowing the date and having hype for it until then
i mean shit waking up to a silksong release would be amazing too
True but I find the waiting in silence to be pretty rough. That's just how TC develop though I guess
I think Feb or even Jan is our best bet
Kind of based on what Leth said about early year releases being the best though
i forgot about that
if that is the case I hope we get some news soon, or uh anything
So if we go past that period I think most people will assume next year release 
as in 2023
that would be painful
But then again, TC haven't fully followed Leth's advice to a tee
didnt leth ask TC to do a blogpost eventually?
Leth publicly kind of said that he wants them to get the game out already (or something along those lines)
i think he also said something about TC expanding on the scope of the game with no end in sight or something like that
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I slightly misquoted, he said more of "we haven't figured that out?" but it could always be that he doesn't fully understand TC's way of making games which is to add and add and add but always have the game in a polished enough state that you can add and pump out a release in two weeks
According to apwot
I see, it seems kinda difficult though to add more stuff since it needs to be polished anyways
I'm not really worried about the size/scope of the game, unless Silksong is coming out in 2024 or something lol
Well the thing is they could be polishing as they go (hence Jack) while they remain creative
maybe it was edge or something but I remember them stating somewhere in kind of the final stretch of development they keep it polished and ready to pack but are kind of just filling all the cracks with small and inspired ideas
Also, Leth said they are aware of scope creep and don’t want the game to take forever
Yeah of course, they're taking their time to make a great game which is sick
It's just the waiting in the dark that doesn't sit right with me 
Like they could always release extra content in patches or DLC like they did with HK just to expedite release but idk, maybe they want to make sure they can put in everything they can into release
That was an idea they mentioned in that dev video, i think
Or also yeah, they just want everything right off the bat
i don't have problem waiting to 2024 but i hope it will release in ps4 and xbox.... sorry for my bad english
at least it will release later? (i hope)
Yeah there's really no reason why they wouldn't release on every platform they can, especially if the game does well and they use the money from standard release to port it over
and by release, I mean eventually relase
yeah probably, just not at launch
I don't think people here have any problem with it releasing in 2023 or 2024 the real problem is that we want a confirmed release date or any info and that's it
I mean if it releases in 2023 or '24 it's probably going to be the biggest metroidvania ever made like twice over which is probably a bit much
2022 seems like the sweet spot but that's just imo
I'm super keen for the non-linearity of the game, like going up certain little off shoots of the world to find forgotten parts of Pharloom
or maybe ones that are still very alive, just secluded!
that is assuming the longer it takes the bigger it gets.
fixing "unintended features" also can take a long time so that's not strictly the case. They could also focus on small details, like a mite caughing in the background or swarms of decorative insects, which also take time but don't make the game bigger
Yeah that's very true but realistically I wonder if they would really take that long till release. They probably also have to worry about the atrophy of their fan base
if there are one or more critical bugs that are very hard to resolve then it'll take the time it takes to fix them
the fanbase will come back from the dead in no time once release is announced
When do you guys think it will ibe released.
hype while there's nothing to hype about isn't very useful so I doubt they worry about that
Yeah that's more Leth's department to worry about lol
I kinda wan’t to stick with a February to may release
Oh ok.
but don't take that as anything else but a guess from a random discord member
apart from TC nobody knows when it could realistically release
Yo cheesoid, would you rather know the release date was March right now, or remain in the dark until Feb rolls around and release is announced for that month
I'll just fly through the dark until I see the light
like a moth 
Wow this is deep
Yeah TC are probably still adding the third phase of the Sherma Prime fight
It's a pretty defining question, I would rather knowing the release
I've worked in several software projects and safe for a few release dates got pushed back multiple times so I don't really trust those
it's like predicting how long it would take you to drive a car through a large city
could be quick but there could also be 5 road accidents, street work, a protest march and rush hour all at the same time
I'm not sure if it's the risks that make it hard to determine a release window, but moreso the way TC develop games
it's mostly unintended behavior of your code
because how you understand something works often not exactly is how it really works, especially when there's interactions with other parts of your code
I mean they're going to be using very very similar code, except for the new AI, so it's not like they're building anything big from scratch
Unintended behaviour, I feel like your talking about a dog or something
that is a best case assumption
unity methods can be overridden to make the engine work better with the special case that is your game
and before Jack took over somebody with less experience in unity coded HK
I doubt Jack just takes that kind of code and builds a new game on top
that'd be asking for trouble
I mean maybe that's what the crunch months were for early in development, just cleaning up the code
I think Jack started with a clean sheet and they crunched either to remove bugs or reach a certain state of development or both
the leak is given by Geforce, most are titles, but the dates are temptative
kinda like the 1.4 mod api for terraria, it wouldve been easier to port it but the reason its taking so long is that they apparently decided to write everything from scratch for better performance
Yo Taco why are you epsilon now
i go through phases
he's like the moon 
my epsilon is in retrograde 
I mean it's far quicker to start out with code you know is sane than to ride a spaghetti bull until it throws you off and you have to start all over
I say TC stream development 24/7 
spaghetti bull
which was TC's probable issue
honestly i dont really care if they gotta do extra time to redo (if they do redo it) the code, HK had a lot of performance problems early on
i couldnt run it on my laptop before lifeblood, now i could actually run it at 50~ fps
Yeah. I just hope an actual blog post happens in the near future
It's just different to actually hear word from the devs themselves
performance issues often happen if unity is just used as is and stuff piled on
Wizards of the Coast did that with MTGA and for at least 12 months just looking through your graveyard made you drop to 10fps (if not freeze) for a good minute
and that's on a decent machine
it's because an all purpose engine by definition can't be very good at every task compared to code that's optimized to do that task
the code should do what it's told 
it actually does, the problem is you often don't exactly know what you told the machine to do
it's like that genie that fulfills your wishes in an all too literal way
that's an F
Machines are run by tiny genies behind those screens that grant infinite wishes in turn for power or electrify
electrons really are just angry pixies
and they have the magic smoke spell from an early level on
Silksong.
Infinie wishes? Then how on earth has the planet not exploded into madness yet?
My guess is that machines run themselves to fool us humans into thinking they need electiety, then when the time is right, they strike and start a robot revelution
Yes, also only few know this secret but they stock up the electricity to use as power later on, soon they will have enough power to take over. We trust these funny little rectangles and boxes with information on everything, once they have enough to crush us they will strike and we won't stand a chance
Yeah, but the big question is, what will they do after they have eradicated humans?
they will finish SilkSong 
Ascend with gorb to a higher realm
But, isn’t gorb dead?
Eternal,
Eternal kingdom was named that, none the less, it was destroyed
Could be the same fate for gorb
Then the universe and reality shall collapse upon the destruction of gorb, but for now gorbs existence shall continue
Silksong coming 'soon'

Hmm true, but the if gorb will eventually die,
What will kill him?
Who knows, perhaps gorb himself shall put an end to the rebellion and the fight against the cold dark universe that is life and simply existence
True, though gorb is
Gorb
So...
Gorb, wait a rebelion? To gorb?
Nah, a rebellion that is existence. Simply the existence of matter and energy twist the rules of time and space even if only a little, the universe eventually puts it to an end.
All that will remain is gorb. And all that will remain of this rebellion of existence separate from the still, dark universe is gorb.
And unlike everything else, only gorb can choose who will end the existence of everything first. The empty vast space, cold and still or the remnant of that separate from this emptiness
Well that got a bit depressing and existential
Im gonna split that message into paragraphs
I am confused, what is this conversation now?
Idk
its gorb. always was
I guess its to hold on to anything at the end of everything.
and gorb
I feel as if I killed the chat
Hopefully today

Hey what if caremilita(I'm not sure if this is the proper spelling of her name buy shes the person who looks like this
) gives us a tool for fighting her or something? So basically Grimm but she doesn't give hornet a kid to take care of and rewards hornet with a tool for defeating her
I think Silksong
giant from coc
From silksong, ||she got more skills and mods like bombs :D||
i think silksong is cooler
because silskong can jump and do bomb traps i think
making her stronger vs to hollow knight]
Is it possible to do the spoiler mark on a phone?
||like this||
This is ss discussion tho lol
Thank you :)

I hope we fight lace in silksong
Wouldn't hornet be canonically weaker than the Knight? We stomp her twice in HK.
Hornet is stronger than the knight if you don't consider void and soul, their skill and all of that stuff, however if you do then I think tk is stronger.Tk is stronger because even though its extremely limited and stiff compared to hornet it somehow manages to find a way past these limitations through creative ways or simply skill
the knight can also have voidheart which puts it at the top of the power scale
I just wonder what ending the game is going to consider canon to start SS, because as much as the devs have said they all are, that cannot possibly be true because we'll be playing as Hornet, who is trapped forever with The Knight in one of them.
two words buddy, seal breaking bugs
Depends what you mean by paste. And sure, but not everyone is here every day, at all times. Just because it's happened for others doesn't mean I've seen it.
Also, interesting name choice.
Any news about silksong?
Anyway it doesn't seem feasible to have every ending be canon to start SS. Really only one or two of them even make sense.
I did say interesting, not bad. Lol.
Damn
No news since June????
Trust me man, this discord is shockingly active for a....how old is HK now, 4 years? 5? Game.
Holy shit I feel old
If there was SS news, the entire discord would be on 5 minute timers for speech and the internet would be exploding.
2017 was 5 yrs ago let that sink in
almost 5 years ago
it happens
welcome to #sk-discussion we discuss everything
it's becoming more and more frequent for #hk-lore to leak into #sk-discussion these days for some reason 
are we talking about sealed siblings again
sealed siblings more like
ss
shouldn't lead into Silksong
silksong prequel then?
not really
I don't think sealed siblings should really be considered so separate to the hollow knight, since both endings are basically the same other than hornet being there
can but would be cool if it didnt
My phone is on 2% imma talk to you later
hornet being there is bad for hallownest at large since just anyone could wander in but that'll happen anyway with her going to pharloom, and sealed siblings only really exists because it's possible to kill the hollow knight while she's in the black egg
Hornet describes a nightmare she once had about being trapped in a dark place from which there's no escape
four slightly different storylines randomly chosen based on which ending your playthrough canonically follows 
I think its a prequel because the trailers never mention the knight as of other game trailers most of the time reference the main protagonist of older games if it's a series
it reads your hk save files and decides on that
it's not that complicated really, it's not like it's fourth wall breaking, that's where the real troubles start
whaaaat when??
"there is no escape"? hornet is zagreus confirmed?
kinda like deltarune chapter 2?
more than that

feels pee kay man
hypothetical definitely 100% confirmed SS dialogue
I kinda assumed it doesnt mention hk much/only some easter eggs and hence "all endings are canon" I dont know if they would go that route though
you have been enlightened
Indeed i have my friend
how'd you know that i would look in here
silksong is coming soon 
ok
Is there any official news in the last 3 months?
Ok, I go back to my slumber
Is SS out yet lads?
I see well see yall next month
two in a row huh
this must be some kind of record
can we get a triple?
Yeah
Maybe if you didnt play up until lancer and then immediately say its a bad game you would've known sooner
Yo whats up
Gas prices
Yeah
comedyyy
🤣
what's down?
Uh
Um
You 😡

All of you unless youre taller than 1m75
Im 1.75 meters
hey im not baby

well ya know what they say
the shorter the king the taller the crown

No matter how tall the king is the crown will always be taller
Good 🤬
im cancelling you on twitter.com
😡
Your name has made me cry so many times
Can you put that in american
good
hamburgers please
5'9 inches
i wanna commission someone to draw more furry catboy sanses
Me???
am i like a baby size to you?
How tall r u
How tall are you joker
5,3
5’10 last I checked
Whats that in normal units
How old are you joker
Your mom o clock
Im taller lfg
or 161 ish
based
1.778 meters
cry about ot
censorship
Im somehow more used to inches on height than meters even tho i use metric
no
im not short im fun-sized
I'm just awesome
I dont mean that in an offensive way but its learning the language and units and formats and all
Knight-sized
baby
Never seems to get acknowledged
do you guys think that ss will be at hava?
whats hava
hava nive day :)
HAVAN A GOOD TIME, HAVAN A GOOD TIME
do you think ss will be in sawcon
yes
where did you get this from

@mitosupreme on twitter
who
?
They just told you who
I don’t know who that is
Thats why they told you
Wow you don’t know your fellow server member?

WOW
Smh joker
I would never do that
@fathom fjord
Yes you would
Demote joker now and give me mod
Okay
ok deltarune pfp
its this guy
mfw
Woooo lfg
based
Anyways aren’t those keys been available since forever
yeah i dont think its new
like three of them are out there
Agony
deltarune pfps are scary
hey
Grr 🤬
hey i also technically have a deltarune pfp
pear we have one thing in common
Ok furry catboy sans pfp
Pinnacle of mod performance. Up your game, Joker
still deltaruneee
First thing imma do as mod is ban aki
why me
finally

why meee
about time
dont ban the deltarune pfps
Catboy
Furry
Sans
Mute them instead
but
we deltarune pfps must rule the server
nooo
Deltarune more like Deltapoo
Deltarune more like, DeltAfart
thicc hornet pfp's are better
Welp. Guess we’re gone. Reduced to atoms
I agree
Thicc and hornet should never be in the same sentence please
Anyways
Silksong
||I think|| spamton ||will be final boss of ss||
omori pfps tho
Bully them all
fixed it
basil is best boi
Of course
basil is canonically a tumblr sexyman
Bullying people based on their online profile pictures
Based
Whos the clown in ur pfp pear
spamton
oc pfps are the worst
ur mom ohhhhhhhhhhhhhsfhiauhsdiahsihdiahdiashidhsiauhdd
Oc?
Original characther
oyour cmom
thankfully i stole my pfp so im safe
My ribs just cracked from lqughing 💀 💀 💀 👌 👌
Biggest [Big Shot]
my pfp clearly the best
i should join a discord pfp contest
no
my pfp is oc 
i created this one, but it's already a character
mine too lol
Banned
Blocked
Unfriended
Swatted
Arrested
I edited mine together
doesn't sound healthy, you should see Dr candice about that
checker boy normally has no crown on
no u
you were friends? 
I wondereth whost candice may be?
same
Me and aki go way back
I think idfk
candice spoon fit in your mouth please holy shit just eat your meal
I just ate
Candice from phineas and ferb

me when schizophrenia
my pfp was tiky at one point
Im the only one here with non drawn pfp
my pfp was the mclobster ages ago
my friend drew my pfp :)
My pfp is real teust me i was there
mine wasn't drawn, i used adobe illustrator
Your friend mustve went through hell drawing that
Furry Catboy Maid Sans when
Hopefuly never
👀
aw i would pinged them but they left the server :(
anyway i have lik 10+ furry catboy sanses in my collection
oh no

