sk-discussion

[proud vale]

you sussy as hell

[fiery coral]

all this will be irrelevant when they inevitably announce the release date in today's direct

[empty tree]

thanks?

[prisma river]

Bold of you to assume it will even be mentioned

[wooden sorrel]

Do we have a copium emote

[prisma river]

Idk tho I think chances are high this time

[proud vale]

clown up friends

[fiery coral]

the should serve its purpose

[proud vale]

[empty tree]

clown makeup has been on since silksong got announced

[prisma river]

[shy kiln]

This isn’t #hk-discussion

[rotund sentinel]

i didnt realize

[sacred stratus]

Did Leth disprove the 1st of February 2022 leak already?

I’m just waiting for him to send a message here that SS won’t be in the direct and that the leak isn’t true bcs we all know that SS doesn’t exist

[cerulean sable]

a non response

[fast swan]

EVERYONE LSTEN , tommorow is nintendo direct , we may get some sliksong news

pray for silksong rn

[fiery coral]

[cerulean sable]

1st we already know of the direct 2nd pretty sure everyones been doing the same thing for the past 5 directs so no worries on that front

[short siren]

Yeaaah suuuure, like all those other directs

[fast swan]

who knows maybe this is the one

[cerulean sable]

:)

[bleak scarab]

wow chat sure is active?

[fast swan]

if it is im calling it

[lavish tinsel]

gonna agree with void on this one tbh

[cerulean sable]

well see

were got a lot of things in our hands right now

[fast swan]

all we can do is

[lavish tinsel]

after the leak stuff seems to be lining up

[fast swan]

hope and pray

[hollow sedge]

chats gonna melt if nothing happens, actually it doesnt matter what happens the chat will still go ape mode

[empty tree]

what if they just announce the knight in smash and just dont mention anything else about hk/ss

[fast swan]

if no silksong new imma raid the direct

[fiery coral]

Leth didn't give a concrete response, Ari was online a few hours ago which almost never happens

can certainly hope

[fast swan]

intresting

.....tommorow might be the day

[frank mist]

If the game were to actually release in February I think it would be on the HK release date

[bleak scarab]

Can I get caught up on what happened? I was sleeping at that time

[short siren]

I mean I sure HOPE it is, but like, if I don't expect it I won't get dissapointed

[frank mist]

So I think February 1st is prob just a placeholder

[fast swan]

tommorows nintendo direct and we are praying for news on silksong

[bleak scarab]

So nothing happened?

[fiery coral]

basically yeah

[frank mist]

There was a leak

[fast swan]

nope just speculation

[hollow sedge]

its been a minute since we last got news at Edge, i think its almost time

[fiery coral]

nothing concrete

[onyx harness]

Naruto for smash

[hollow sedge]

the leak and placeholder is real, but it doesn't mean silksong is releasing on that day

[fast swan]

ok spam silk song in the chat

[reef scarab]

He was?

[fiery coral]

yep

[short siren]

I think that might just be a placeholder date, but I did bet that SS is coming in 2022 so let's hope it does 😂

[fiery coral]

do not spam

[reef scarab]

Damn, that actually makes me kinda hopeful

[heavy mason]

Placeholder in silksong? Smash?

[fast swan]

the day we get news about silk song release date i am gonna lit gonna buy some water

[short siren]

The day we get silksong I am literally dropping EVERYTHING

[sacred stratus]

wait do we know what games will be in the direct?

[fast swan]

and then have a feast kekw

[heavy mason]

No xd

[fast swan]

nope'

[bleak scarab]

I dont think so

[reef scarab]

ngl people who are overly pessimistic are more annoying then people getting all excited over directs

[heavy mason]

Why would we know lol

[heavy mason]

It’s better. You always get surprised

[fast swan]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-sweating-wet-gif-7398449

[hollow sedge]

yeah I was super pessimistic over Edge and there ended up being news for it

[short siren]

I mean if I'm pessimistic I can't get dissapointed, and if ot DOES happen I'll be even more excited

[sacred stratus]

IDK why would ppl know what the release date of SS is? oh wait there are ppl that already know that

[short siren]

Deep down it's still hard to not be hopful though!

[fast swan]

wha

[empty tree]

guys heads is no silksong tails is silksong

[sacred stratus]

playtesters and TC know

[fast swan]

oh

[sacred stratus]

da

[empty tree]

https://tenor.com/view/coins-tails-coin-flip-a-coin-coinflip-gif-21479856

[jolly isle]

Wow it’s very odd that we’ve come this far. It feels like HK was just released yesterday

[fast swan]

YESSS

[reef scarab]

I mean you can always just be neutral on it

[fast swan]

WE GETTING SILKSONG THIS COIN FLIP DEMANDS IT

[empty tree]

yep

[heavy mason]

You can’t confirm that they know. They might be speculating that they know. Leaks aren’t 100% trustworthy. Nothing is certain until it’s stated in the direct by nintendo

[empty tree]

the coinflip i looked at before choosing the side is 100% accurate

[still owl]

Stated by TC, not Nintendo

[short siren]

I don't think Playtesters would know... They probably only know how far it is in the development, not the exact release date. Especially considering TC might not have a super strict date themselves

[heavy mason]

Stated by any reliable source then

[bleak scarab]

Haha "coming soon" go brrr

[fast swan]

yea only team cherry knows for sure

[heavy mason]

Speaking in general not only ss

[still owl]

Beat me to it Top Hatter

Also I doubt TC even knows, as said by leth they just keep adding stuff

[heavy mason]

I bet they don’t even know lol

[still owl]

And with HK, they only knew when to stop when they ran out of budget

[short siren]

Yea lol

[heavy mason]

Just like botw got delayed many years

[fast swan]

i hope hornet has a shade form or smth like that

[bleak scarab]

They had HK at a state when adding stuff where if they ran out of budget they could always box it up and release it

[short siren]

If team cherry knew the release date with 100% certainty, why not release it?

[fast swan]

like a temporary dmf boost

[still owl]

So yeah, some more good reasons not to trust this “leak”
That and it’s so far out in the future, probably another placeholder.

[sacred stratus]

no she doesn't. we know that from the gameplay demo and the fact that she's not a vessel

[fast swan]

oh yea hornet isnt void sadge

[sacred stratus]

when you die you leave a cocoon of silk with all your money in it

[fast swan]

wow intresting

[still owl]

Well, we don’t know about that money iirc

[short siren]

I mean they don't need to build more hype, sure, but it still makes more sense to reveal the release date when they know it

[jolly isle]

Well 99% of placeholders are on Dec 31st but this still doesn’t prove anything

[primal oriole]

yeah in the demo there's no rosaries in there, likely because you can't buy anything

[fast swan]

oh and i can see a person called old mate is he from team cherry ?

[primal oriole]

yeah he's lead playtester

[fiery coral]

he's Graig, lead playtester

[fast swan]

ooh i see nice

[fiery coral]

he's usually online so it's not really a sign

[still owl]

SS’ last leaked placeholder was June 31st, or HK Switches release date.

[sacred stratus]

there were rosaries you just couldn't do anything with them

[bleak scarab]

Yes, Graig word of advice don't believe what he says he master troll

[primal oriole]

no, not in the coccoon

[still owl]

And what’s this new leak? Isn’t it HKs 5th anniversary?

[fast swan]

we do a lil trolling

[reef scarab]

I don’t think the release date “leak” is the real date ngl, team cherry doesn’t like setting dates far out

[sacred stratus]

ohh I get you now

[reef scarab]

I’d say at the latest it’d be two months after reveal

[short siren]

Even if it is, hyping it up just puts pressure on TC

[primal oriole]

it's February 1st, so I imagine they just put in February because it was 3 years after the announcement and didn't think much of it

[short siren]

So let's remain sceptical.

[fast swan]

team cherry doesn reallly listen to too much criticism

[still owl]

Yeah so imo more proof to call it a placeholder

[sacred stratus]

it is still very sus that Leth hasn't tweeted about the situation yet so this is my hope

[still owl]

I doubt he’s heard anything

[fast swan]

when tc is sus

[primal oriole]

he has tweeted about it

[jolly isle]

He did

[reef scarab]

When?

[sacred stratus]

what did he say?

[fast swan]

wha where

[still owl]

Oh apparently I’m late

[bleak scarab]

what did he say

[jolly isle]

5 days ago

[primal oriole]

he was asked if he had anything to say on it and he said no lmao

[fast swan]

link plz

[sacred stratus]

wait wha

[bleak scarab]

sus

[jolly isle]

https://twitter.com/griffinmatta/status/1438950497164034048?s=21

Matthew Griffin (@griffinmatta)

@Hollowknightost No not really. =)

Twitter · Sep 17, 2021, 7:38 PM

[fast swan]

pog thanks

[sacred stratus]

that's very very sus among drip starts playing

[reef scarab]

Even if there’s no Silksong Nintendo directs are always hype

[still owl]

Alright, I’m off for tonight. Night gang

[fast swan]

ur a sussy baka team cherry

[short siren]

I realise they don't look too much on social media but it's still gonna be hard for them to completely ignore it

Imagine your game's release got leaked before it was ready and then you have to delay or crunch.

Either you disapoint your fans or overwork yourself to hell.

[fast swan]

what happened to cyberpunk

[agile kelp]

I thought they were trying to take a break from ss and now this pops up

[short siren]

Not every game is gonna end up like cyberpunk

Especially with SilkSoon, I doubt it

[fast swan]

this is why i watch vtubers , to wash the pain of silksong away

but i guess i cant get away

[jade canopy]

I think people here have known to moderate their expectation a bit and won’t be disappointed or anything when 1st of February passes

[shy kiln]

🎶 Whose delaying the Silksong release? 🎵
🎵 It was Agatha all along 🎶

[short siren]

Yeah

[fast swan]

i dont have expectations kekw ive always been disapointed

[lean python]

Aight this was a decent joke lol.

[tired lake]

[fast swan]

the day ss comes out the son will explde and the moon lord will come down

[agile kelp]

Agatha?

[rotund sentinel]

btw why is there no cocoon in the demo

[bleak scarab]

wandavision

[shy kiln]

She is a marvel villain from the show Wanda Vision

[bleak scarab]

she better come back in future marvel projects

[shy kiln]

Ok

[fast swan]

anyone playing deltarune chap 2 ?

[rotund sentinel]

anyone?

[fast swan]

so far its a banger ngl

[analog vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/traffic-city-lights-gif-11942911

[shy kiln]

Because there is no cocoon in those areas?

[primal oriole]

there is?

[analog vortex]

We need team cherry to approve the “release date” and society becomes this:

[tired lake]

I'm just praying today

[short siren]

Agreed, finished it the day it released lol

[shy kiln]

Bruh what?

[primal oriole]

not in the Treehouse footage, because the people playing didn't die

[rotund sentinel]

i didnt see it can u send me the time stamp?

[analog vortex]

#sk-discussion message

[fast swan]

really ? im taking it slow rn and watching youtubers

[rotund sentinel]

then in which footage is it in?

[fast swan]

whats ur fav youtubers who played hollow knight ?

[primal oriole]

I think every one other than the Treehouse

[tired lake]

^

[bleak scarab]

bossmag

[analog vortex]

Fire born and small ant I think yes I’m basic

[fast swan]

ayee small ant pog

[primal oriole]

https://youtu.be/acBIdFBJoIU?t=176

[short siren]

M e r g h

[fast swan]

yooo yess me too

the cherry boy lit

[rotund sentinel]

SAME CHERRY BOI

[fast swan]

nah those r pog i also watched them'

[short siren]

God I cannot wait for silksong

[shy kiln]

Welsknight Gaming

[fast swan]

idk why but listen to this

[short siren]

I fought the Hollow Knight yesterday and I got chills

[fast swan]

i just randomly find youtubers playing games that arent popular yet

[jade canopy]

Sooo what will happen if it doesn’t get announced today ? You just die ?

[fast swan]

and then the game expldes

[short siren]

No? I'm just excited lol

[shy kiln]

You know this isn’t #hk-discussion

[fast swan]

everyone is

[short siren]

I know, sorry

[fast swan]

bro we r talking about everything here

[shy kiln]

Ok

[agile kelp]

Theres barely any ss all we have is hk and some offtopic stuff

[fast swan]

hey i found silk song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es8wlbKNTbI

[short siren]

I mean, there isn't TOO much stuff to talk about with the game not even out

[fast swan]

release date confirmed kekw

[short siren]

"" "confirmed"""

It was leaked from a source that supposedly isn't legally associated with TC

[torn rivet]

the leak is a lie to deceive us there won't ever be any silksong ever releasing

[fast swan]

the proof is undeniable

look at hornet in the pic

[proud vale]

Graig the next direct is tomorrow if you wanted to know

[short siren]

By that logic SS would have been out for like 2 years

[fast swan]

maybe the true SS are the memories we made in hk

[proud vale]

We better be seeing graig's gardening sim release trailer

orange pls

[shy kiln]

No, the true SS are journey we did along the way of waiting for Siksog

Like PoP with 50 immortal Primal Aspids

[coarse leaf]

Guys teamcherry delted my mesage

[short siren]

The true silksong is lightbringer with hornet skin

[shy kiln]

Yeah, Graig did it

[ashen canyon]

cool

[fast swan]

i just thought of some cool skill names for hk

[bleak scarab]

tell

[fast swan]

hollow sword style: bloom of death

or smth liuke that idk

it would be nice to give names to skills

[shy kiln]

Yeah, like Mothwing Cloak

[fast swan]

and the dream nail could be : ascension state : dream piercer

[heady jolt]

Honestly I wish before directs they would just come clean and tell us if silksong won't be there would prevent a lot of problems

[fast swan]

the direct hasnt even started yet kekw

[heady jolt]

True

But I guess if they said silksong would be at a direct it would ruin the surprise

[sand sequoia]

Then you'd know when it is going to be there, ruin the surprise.

[fast swan]

and the shade soul could be : call of the void :abyssal soul

[heady jolt]

I say exclusively if it's not there but then if they say nothing you could tell silksong stuff will probably be there

[fast swan]

its fun to think of new names for skills

[heady jolt]

Don't have any hopes up for this direct as per usual

[fast swan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKI-eMAw6TI

[visual echo]

that's not Nintendo's responsibility

or the developers

[fast swan]

i swear if theres no silk song on nintendo direct https://c.tenor.com/JAmAcyLsx5oAAAAM/hollowknight-hk.gif

[visual echo]

there won't be

[fast swan]

dont be pessimistic

[visual echo]

why would there be? bc there was a leak? they aren't gonna wip up a trailer and announce the game the next day because there was a leak

[fast swan]

there might be who knows

[visual echo]

I'm being realistic, not pessimistic

[fast swan]

they dont have to release a date ya know

just announce its comin to give some hope

[visual echo]

we already know it's coming

[heady jolt]

Have we not learned yet

I mean this chat doesn't learn really

You are setting your expectations right by not expecting anything

[visual echo]

the leak is unrelated to the direct and expecting direct news bc of a recent leak isn't a good idea imo

[fast swan]

im not expecing but i would still be dissapointed

[visual echo]

if you set yourself up for disappointment then who's really being the pessimistic one

[fast swan]

wow this convo was big brain

but i would rather hope than not believe

[visual echo]

hoping and believing are different things

wish is a better word than hope in this context imo, i wish there'd be news tomorrow but it's not going to happen

[fast swan]

u believe that there wont be any ss news

while im hoping for it

i have no idea what this is anymore

[heady jolt]

Well we know the past times this has happened

[visual echo]

yes but I'd still hope there is

[heady jolt]

This exact same thing has happened throughout the last year consistently

Nothing makes this different

[visual echo]

yup

[heady jolt]

The leak maybe but I doubt it will have any major effect

[fast swan]

but theres still a small chance ya know

[visual echo]

the leak wouldn't make them announce the release date the next day in response

[fast swan]

even if theres a 2 percent chance its real i will believe in it

perhaps im a fool

but i still hope for silksong

[native ivy]

wait there's a nintendo direct soon?

[visual echo]

people don't learn

[sacred stratus]

today

[sand sequoia]

There is no percent chance. It is either going to be at tomorrow's direct or not.

[native ivy]

in how many hours so we dont need to worry about timezones?

[shy kiln]

🎶 Who’s been driving this chat crazy? 🎵
🎵 It was Agatha all along 🎶

[sand sequoia]

Direct is in 18 hours

[heady jolt]

3 pm pst iirc

[sand sequoia]

18:45*

[heady jolt]

Sorry no other timezones because pst is better

[native ivy]

oops i just randomly pinged someone

[visual echo]

true

[fast swan]

thats what im talking about

[sacred stratus]

wait... 18 hours?

[sand sequoia]

18:45hr. 6pm EST

[surreal crown]

It's been so long since I've visited this channel. It'll be a weird twist of fate if the one time I don't care whether or not Silksong releases it's revealed all of a sudden

[heady jolt]

I actually do think the leak is pretty close

[fast swan]

the truth shall be revealed in time , and when it is , the gates shall open

[heady jolt]

I would not be surprised if the release date is February 14

[native ivy]

WHAT ITS AT A TIME I'M AWAKE

[jolly isle]

15:40

[sacred stratus]

I'm 9 hours ahead of you lol

[steep iris]

Probably close but not it exactly
Maybe like the same month or something

[heady jolt]

Probably

[sacred stratus]

it's 9:19 AM here

[sand sequoia]

This is correct, I didn't change the timezone

[heady jolt]

But I mean I wouldn't trust it

[steep iris]

Yeah

[fast swan]

for me its 12 19 am

[heady jolt]

There's a ton of sketchy stuff about it

[sand sequoia]

Where is that? Middle of Europe?

[fast swan]

how many hours until the direct ?

[surreal crown]

15?

[native ivy]

someone said 18

[sacred stratus]

nah it's 8:19 AM in the middle of Europe rn

[steep iris]

Yep

[surreal crown]

Roughly 15 hours from now.

[sand sequoia]

That was me and i was wrong. It is 15

[native ivy]

ah

so its at like 7am for me

[sacred stratus]

bruh it's gonna be at midnight for me so I wouldn't be able to watch it

[steep iris]

Same here lol

[sacred stratus]

I won't sacrafice my sleep schedule just to be a fool

[heady jolt]

I'm gonna be at school it's gonna be funny after school opening my phone seeing no silksong again

[steep iris]

At this point it’s almost expected

[heady jolt]

This chat gets insane around directs

[sacred stratus]

open your phone mid school

[sand sequoia]

I should block off time on my work calendar so no one bugs me

[native ivy]

yeah there might be no silksong but what if they drop another breath of the wild 2 trailer

[jolly isle]

Pun intended

[heady jolt]

Actually I can do that since in most classes when we finish our work the teachers just let us be on our phone

[surreal crown]

As much as I'd wish this would be shown at the direct I have a feeling that the release date trailer is gonna be shadow dropped early next year

[heady jolt]

Which isn't too common but still nice

[sand sequoia]

Indeed.

[steep iris]

Wait there’s gonna be a BOTW2
How did I just hear about this now lfneowjf

[native ivy]

they announced it a couple years ago now?

[surreal crown]

Unconfirmed, but would be awesome

EDIT: nvm I'm dumb

[sand sequoia]

Regardless, there should be some good stuff in this direct, so Silksong or not, it is fine.

[steep iris]

Yesss

[tired lake]

I already told my parents that I'll be up late

[native ivy]

no its confirmed theres like 3 trailers for it

[surreal crown]

I thought he meant as in it was gonna be at the direct for sure. Yeah it's real and it's coming :)

[native ivy]

ye ok

[steep iris]

Hell yeah
I just finished BOTW so yay there’s gonna be another game for me to get obsessed with lol

[native ivy]

wait finished as in 100% ?

[steep iris]

I’m working on that, I mean like finished all the main storyline
It gets boring tho, just grinding to get 100% after awhile

[heady jolt]

Imagine silksong somehow releases before celeste strawberry jam

[proud vale]

What’s Celeste strawberry jam

[heady jolt]

Huge modded collab

[native ivy]

a jar of jam that says celeste on it duh

[proud vale]

Yooooooo that sounds super exciting

[brazen wren]

wait theres celeste news?

[proud vale]

I love Celeste

[heady jolt]

It was supposed to release in June but it keeps getting delayed and has no release date now

[brazen wren]

ayyy

[brazen wren]

celeste is good

[heady jolt]

Mainly the art people are struggling because there's not enough people

[sand sequoia]

Celeste is amazing.

[native ivy]

someone react to this with

[heady jolt]

Just it's PC only if your on switch or console no mods

[brazen wren]

anyone played ender lilies here?

[native ivy]

no
nobody in this entire server has ever played that game

[brazen wren]

music similar to hollow knight, combat similar to wotw

[mystic elk]

lets check daily silksong news

[native ivy]

someone leaked the release date is that in the daily news

[fast swan]

link ?

[native ivy]

hang on

[mystic elk]

release date for silksong?

[steep iris]

Yeah, it doesn’t seem to be 100% veritable tho

[heady jolt]

It's probably a placeholder date

[brazen wren]

ge force now's servers got leaked

they made a thumbnail and everything for silksong

[sand sequoia]

In the data, there was a spot for placeholder and one for streetdate. 2/1/22 was under street date

[native ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X83L4ogQQlg
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1030300/discussions/0/2956039954085527005/

[brazen wren]

hollow knight was realized in feb, silksong was announced in feb

[brazen wren]

^

[candid mica]

pog

[mystic elk]

b0rnfire

[native ivy]

can u not ping me

[fast swan]

pogg

[visual echo]

fireb0rn more like fireb1rth

[brazen wren]

my bad. I won't do it if you don't want

[mystic elk]

more like reb0rn

[native ivy]

ok thanks

[candid mica]

next good metroidvain to play :)

[brazen wren]

ender lilies

[native ivy]

my favourite hollow knight youtubers are waterborn airborne and eathborn

[brazen wren]

i played 5 hours of the game for 5 days straight

[proud vale]

Yeah I don't think TC are gonna confirm or deny Feb as a placeholder

[brazen wren]

had more fun than the first time I played hollow knight

[visual echo]

then the fire nation attacked

[native ivy]

they should just randomly release silksong and not tell anyone for a day

[shy kiln]

Yeah, fireb0rn sucks
The other 3 are awesome though

[sand sequoia]

Not a stretch, considering they don't communicate anyways.

[native ivy]

there are like 4 hollow knight youtubers

[shy kiln]

Nah

There are way more

[brazen wren]

hollow knight really gets fun the second time you play it

[native ivy]

its a joke

[shy kiln]

Oh, shit
Woooosh

[steep iris]

Let chaos ensue lol

[sand sequoia]

I meant to reply to another comment, not yours. lol. I love hollow knight, i've put roughly 300 hrs into it 🙂

[proud vale]

Yo that is a long time

[steep iris]

I’m only at 140 lmao

[sand sequoia]

Yea it is, I can't really play much anymore. This since 2017 though. I played it when it came out, and then again on ps4 and then on switch again.

[brazen wren]

i got 200

[brazen wren]

hahah i was confused

i always try and buy before betting in so much time

[sand sequoia]

Yea, definitely one of my favorite games in the last 10 years.

[stable current]

please tell me the chat, as well as the system requirements of the game, as well as the first part

[brazen wren]

mac support?

i have 150 hours of hk during school

[sand sequoia]

I think quicker the HK right? Depends how creative they get with the bosses and how long to master them

[proud vale]

Damn I wanna say something to Graig but don't wanna ping him lol

guy always asks when the next direct is

[fleet temple]

just yell loud enough and he'll come

[proud vale]

OLD MATE I SUMMON THEE

[fleet temple]

GRAIG!!

[proud vale]

ASHE IS TRASHE

[compact canyon]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[fleet temple]

GRAIG IF YOU DON'T COME HERE NOW YOUR PLANTS WILL DIE

[compact canyon]

every single time I write something I forget which my profile picture is

[proud vale]

He prolly knows anyway

[fleet temple]

of course he does, he made it

[proud vale]

I mean the guy practically runs Nintendo

Also Reg your nitro

[fleet temple]

idk why their business decisions are bad even though he's around

[fleet temple]

I know, truly, a great loss

[proud vale]

Hmm could be causation over correlation there

[fluid orchid]

Fake until it happens

[proud vale]

<t:1632434400:R>

that's the time till direct

[coarse leaf]

The only problem is that its midnight, not that I wont sleep just have to be silent while watching to not wake up the whole building

[proud vale]

It's a really convenient time for me, which makes me think it's convenient so that TC can watch it

[coarse leaf]

Also how do you do that

[proud vale]

there's videos out there, you have to convert it to an epoch time then there's a command for it

I actually learned it from the outer wilds fan server funny enough

[grim forge]

Nice lmao

[agile kelp]

Its 12 pm right now so ill have to get up at 2 am to see it

[proud vale]

Yeah I honestly just wonder if the theory actually holds any gravity or not

like why is the time so bad for most people other than aus

I need Taco's wild views on this

[cerulean sable]

views on what

sorry currently on a meeting

just finished it, what is it

[proud vale]

On the time of the direct being good for Aus

Seems kinda sus

[cerulean sable]

i think theyll pull all nighters eitherway if it did showup

thats what they did for the Switch reveal back then

[proud vale]

Ah yeah true

probably nothing then

[pallid flare]

the time for this direct is unusually ate

[proud vale]

Yep, it's pleasant though

<t:1632434400>

[dreamy lava]

osrlokc

[maiden forge]

Me when nintendo direct and I'm about to get disappointed

[analog lily]

Yes, though there is a small chance that an actually good game will be there

[maiden forge]

I think a new mario game could be likely

(maybe silksong......)

[high forge]

It's never coming out

[analog lily]

(No silksong......)

[agile kelp]

Its nice to see that the fandom has been disappointed so many times even if there's some ss leak or news they just get hyped and then sink back into depression

[maiden forge]

Any nintendo direct is disappointing because they'll never have my favourite ps5 games featured

Nintendo lacking in ps5 games fr

[agile kelp]

Metroid dread may show up though

[high forge]

I usually have hope that Silksong might come out soon until I remember when it was announced

[agile kelp]

I think it may or may not come to ps4 or ps5?

[proud vale]

it's likely it will eventually, just not on release

[shadow marlin]

silksong release date might have been leaked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X83L4ogQQlg

[agile kelp]

We know

[shadow marlin]

people probably already know but i wanted to say it anyways

[agile kelp]

True, some may have not heard

[shadow marlin]

if it actually releases on that day... it would be a good birthday present

since my birthday is 3 days before

[high forge]

I didn't know about this, but I gave up on leaks after like the third fake leak

[shadow marlin]

well im not gonna take it as hard fact, but heres to hoping

[maiden forge]

I dont think the date matters because they probably just had to have a placeholder again, just like how the steam one was a placeholder.
And also that database build is 6 months old afaik, so not important

[agile kelp]

Actually my birthday is soon and the GeForce leak is a nice birthday present

[shadow marlin]

my birthday is 4 days before what the leak says

so it would be nice if its real

[proud vale]

oh damn I didn't know it was 6mnths old

[dim cloak]

yeah is that a date that changes depending on who reads it? because that's awesome

[maiden forge]

It is

[dim cloak]

I've been WISHING for a feature like this, and it already exists! Do you just type in that exact format?

[proud vale]

Yeah it's useful, it's just a video, i'll put it in off topic

[dim cloak]

thank youuu

[serene patrol]

So i heard theres a leak

[shadow marlin]

yes

[serene patrol]

February eh? ... i guess i need to wash my clown costume again

After tommorow

[shadow marlin]

yeah...

[serene patrol]

[shadow marlin]

hopefully it actuallys real

[serene patrol]

Hope...

[maiden forge]

The leak is real, but I dont think it's relevant for silksong

[serene patrol]

What is hope....

[proud vale]

[serene patrol]

[maiden forge]

With the way team cherry makes their games I don't see why they would set a release date 6 months in advance

[proud vale]

Yep, I really wish we could have it confirmed that it's a placeholder

[candid mica]

we must belive

[serene patrol]

Im excited for metroid dread tho ngl

[candid mica]

maybe team cherry inform us about this leak

[high forge]

"It was just a placeholder, the game is never coming out."

[candid mica]

[maiden forge]

I dont think team cherry would do that lol

[elfin basin]

Remember Leth has said a couple of times he doesn't like releasing games towards the end of the year and prefers to release them early in the year. I have mild hope this may be somewhat correct.

[night pelican]

Да выйдет он...Выйдет...Если не 1-ого февраля, так уж точно на пятилетие Hollow Knight 24.02.22(Yes it will come out ... It will come out ... If not on the 1st of February, so certainly for the fifth anniversary of Hollow Knight 02/24/22)

[proud vale]

well, hopefully by then

[formal kelp]

Pog

[maiden forge]

Ok but team cherry's whole development philosophy is just pretty much living in the moment and seeing when it's done, seems weird to me for them to plan a release 6 months in advance

[formal kelp]

Maybe 6 months for game testing

And its already done

[maiden forge]

I dont think a February release is impossible or anything but I dont think this leak specifically is that credible

[agile kelp]

When they aren't done they just add 6 months, and then another 6 months, and then another 6 months...

[fleet temple]

yeah, if ss does release feb 2022, the leak has nothing to do with that

[proud vale]

I think the leak is credible, but the date isn't (cause it's a placeholder lol)

[maiden forge]

Yeah that's what I meant, wording is hard

[formal kelp]

Why would they make a placeholder for a February tho

[high forge]

I think Silksong might release, at some point in the future.

[agile kelp]

Why was there a placeholder date for steam?

[cedar sedge]

Is obvious that they’re doing a February release

[maiden forge]

Og hollow knight was Feb right

Probably because of that

[formal kelp]

Well thats not very linked with a placeholder

[maiden forge]

Well I don't think they really care about the placeholder date

[formal kelp]

And why do they need a placeholder date anyway to something that's not out lol

[high forge]

Wait if they do it on the second anniversary of the trailer

[maiden forge]

Would be funny timing

[high forge]

that means it releases on Valentine's day

I have the best idea.

[night pelican]

They say that Nintendo Direct, which will be focused on winter announcements, may confirm the release date

[agile kelp]

Because GeForce needed to put something instead of null, it may have been GeForces speculation date

[maiden forge]

That means I will abandon love for silksong

[high forge]

I won't

[maiden forge]

This

[high forge]

I choose both.

[agile kelp]

Silksong is your valentines partner?

[high forge]

No

the plan was to give my boyfriend Silksong

[agile kelp]

Ooh I see

[agile kelp]

Well hopefully silksong can release before or during valentines

[high forge]

Hopefully.

[keen kite]

When the, the silk songs

[compact canyon]

My face when, my face when the silk songs

[agile kelp]

Songsilks

[keen kite]

When the song is silk

So, chances of silksong at direct today?

[agile kelp]

0

[keen kite]

I refuse to believe that

[agile kelp]

Becareful not to turn that copied into hopium

[grim forge]

If that leak is real there is definitely a chance it's at the direct tomorrow

Even if it's really low

[keen kite]

I have lost the ability to do that after being dissapointed with an upcoming skin for a demon scarecrow in league of legends not coming out for months now

All I have left for everything game related is copium

[craggy trench]

league of legends is why we don't have silksong

[keen kite]

[fast swan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCHoOBgE7lU

[bleak scarab]

Silksong far from home

[keen kite]

League of legends is why I bought a normally working pc and that's why I bought hollow knight because my old one couldn't run it so league gave me hollow knight

[fast swan]

lmao

[jolly isle]

T-810 minutes

[frigid basin]

how do we know that the leak isn't credible/date is a placeholder

[high forge]

<t:1632434400:R>

[rich fractal]

It's just weird it's Feb specifically is all. If they didn't care, might as well have put a default date like 1/1/2022 or 31/12/2022

[tribal merlin]

afaik a lot of the dates for games were all the same so that makes it likely they're not real

[analog lily]

Well feb 1 is kind of a expected date, being near the release of the original

[frigid basin]

not according to what i saw

[rich fractal]

I don't think Nvidia would put a speculative date like that though, especially for something that wasn't meant to be visible to the public anyways

[primal oriole]

well, we know TC doesn't set precise dates for themselves far in advance

[frigid basin]

"far" is a vague term, though - do they mean on the scale of years? months?

[primal oriole]

so I assume they just set it for 3 years after reveal (not even the exact date, just the month) and left it

[rich fractal]

I don't think it's too wild they would plan for a Feb release a few months in advance

[primal oriole]

yeah but I don't think they set themselves on it

imo it's likely that they made a vague guess, put it there, and didn't think about it too hard

[frigid basin]

what was the last placeholder date

[rich fractal]

12 June or something

[primal oriole]

June 12 2020, 2 years after the switch release of HK

[brittle garnet]

Also, if that was the release date, and we know TC would only give one if they were sure they can reach it, why is it so far away?

[signal stone]

i still think february is too soon,summer 2022 sounds good to me

[frigid basin]

it's not that far away, only 5 months

[signal stone]

they can take their time all they want,just give us an update or a trailer

[frigid basin]

compare this to the last placeholder date that was 1-2 years in the future

[primal oriole]

I mean assuming this was set recently

[tribal merlin]

"NVIDIA is aware of an unauthorized published game list, with both released and/or speculative titles, used only for internal tracking and testing. Inclusion on the list is neither confirmation nor an announcement of any game."
you'd be crazy to take dates on that list at face value

[frigid basin]

the problem is that we know some of those dates are real, or are most likely legitimate

[primal oriole]

yeah, but the date section of this was actually set to null, wasn't it?

[high forge]

But ones without an already set date were speculation by NVidia I think

[brittle garnet]

Okay, but that doesn't set a precedent to assume that of every date

[frigid basin]

goes both ways: you can't say all are real OR fake

[primal oriole]

yeah you can't

[rich fractal]

It's always possible they are wrapping up the game soon and will just hold off a bit until Feb to release it because the holiday season wouldn't be ideal for an indie game and also Feb is an important month for the series already. They may think it's a realistic goal

[high forge]

also Silksong is never coming out

[primal oriole]

but I'd be extremely shocked if TC planned this far ahead

[brittle garnet]

This also means that there is no way to determine if the date is real

[rich fractal]

Of course, it could very easily still be a placeholder. I guess we will know tonight, if it's really Feb, Nintendo would want to showcase it as they seem to be fond of SS

[frigid basin]

yeah so the answer is "we have no idea if this date is fake or real"

[signal stone]

hopium

[primal oriole]

there's no way they locked themselves into this date internally, even if it was a rough planned date

[frigid basin]

i agree, it'll likely be either confirmed or busted by the Direct/some other official release

[frigid basin]

wasn't the release date of HK changed like 3 times

[primal oriole]

yeah, which is why they stopped locking themselves in on dates lmao

[frigid basin]

Ari said to a fan that Silksong's been a victim of feature/content creep

i think that there's a legitimate chance for this date to be real / very close to the real date, because it matches with past releases & is in the same month that HK released

[high forge]

Like I said, Silksong's never coming out

[frigid basin]

stop meming please

[signal stone]

elaborate?

[formal kelp]

If they set a date then they mean it, its probably going to take up play testing during the time

[primal oriole]

silknever hahahahahahhhahhhahhahhahhahhahhahhahahhahhahhah

[brittle garnet]

This means nothing, you know?

[formal kelp]

It does tho

[tribal merlin]

there is no evidence that date came from TC tho

[brittle garnet]

Just because it matches some made-up pattern means absolutely nothing

[frigid basin]

no evidence that it didn't either

[formal kelp]

You cant argue with no evidence

If u think its another date then prove it lmao

[tribal merlin]

it*s a list for testing which already should tell you to take the information with a big bag of salt

[frigid basin]

look, if it wasn't them, TC's probably going to send a tweet out saying "uh, BTW, the date on this leak is a placeholder!" similar to what Leth did when addressing the Steam "leak"

[primal oriole]

or they reveal the actual date tomorrow at the Direct which is a totally unrelated event to the leak

[signal stone]

isnt the direct today..?

[primal oriole]

timezones

[mental marlin]

Thats true
Lets w8 and see what TC Will do about the leak

[brittle garnet]

Let's hope

[primal oriole]

Leth was asked if he had anything to say and he said no

[rich fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/828974824838660106.gif?v=1

[tribal merlin]

I don't think TC have to do anything about the leak

[frigid basin]

didn't one of them come out and deconfirm it tho

[tribal merlin]

it's not their fuckup

[formal kelp]

What r u trying to prove here

Like u cant saying anything about it either

[coarse leaf]

If the date was a region locked feature who's to say that the region locked data that gave us the date was incorrect

[formal kelp]

Whos to say its not true either

[dim ferry]

Damn axiom verge 2 was terrible metroid dread needs to come out asap I cannot wait any longer

[mental marlin]

Thats not what i meant
I meant "lets w8 and see if they Will Say something about It.
Like 'it was Just a placeholder date' or something Like that"

[high forge]

Can you wait 15 more days?

[tall hinge]

direct is at 1am friday for me

[tribal merlin]

Nvidia made a statement and that's already enough to put the list in perspective

[spare elbow]

I'm fully expecting a "it's been 2 years since our last update here's the release date" kinda thing in December

[tribal merlin]

people refusing to acknowledge what "testing" means doesn't make the date any more real

[coarse leaf]

The null --> date is definitely weird. The region lock makes the most sense, but at the same time sort of invalidates the data we received. Because the data changes based on the region from which it's received it makes all the data equally trustworthy

[dim ferry]

Probably not

[formal kelp]

like yall are to negative about this its like u dont want it

[high forge]

Too bad

[mental marlin]

They did? I might have miss it. sry

[frigid basin]

also consider that data being set to null could also be damage control on the part of the maintainers/submitters

[tall hinge]

what did i miss? what testing?

[coarse leaf]

Null was the original iirc

[tribal merlin]

the "damage control" was removing access to the list, not changing data entries

[tribal merlin]

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-responds-to-geforce-now-database-leak-says-list-included-speculative-titles/

[formal kelp]

They could be lying

[coarse leaf]

It's definitely not like TC to put themselves in a box when it comes to release date

[high forge]

I'm sorry but like,
hopium

[frigid basin]

stop meming

[summer kindle]

hello ss discussion what flavor of going crazy aaaa stupid are we rn

[formal kelp]

code red

[high forge]

there is nothing else to do in this channel

[summer kindle]

facts

[high forge]

we don't have any actual news on the game, just a theoretical release date that probably won't happen

[tall hinge]

[formal kelp]

I said already, if u think its different then prove it

None is the wiser here so dont act like it lmfao

[coarse leaf]

I mean doesn't the burden of proof sort of fall on the people who think the game will come out?

[frigid basin]

no, and it doesn't sit on the people that think it won't either

[dim ferry]

One thing I am 100% sure about without a single shred of doubt
We will get news before the year is over

[summer kindle]

tht's 3 months

[burnt topaz]

TC holiday post 2021 :D

[summer kindle]

very bold claim

[formal kelp]

Like if u wanna be negative go ahead ull regret later

[coarse leaf]

At this point it's speculation on a number that may or may not be region locked from Nvidia (Possibly a bad source) on data that is contradictory frim two different people

[spare elbow]

Everyone got their clown make up ready for the direct today

[high forge]

Why would I regret being wrong about a game I want to come out coming out sooner than I expected

[coarse leaf]

Not trying to be negative just realistic

[summer kindle]

i just have literally no expectations

[frigid basin]

the SS date isn't region locked

[formal kelp]

Where's the fun in that

I like to be more positive myself

[summer kindle]

i don't

positivity leads to disappointment

[formal kelp]

And whos fault is that

Lmfao then ur just sad

[burnt topaz]

Fun isn't allowed here didn't you know

[summer kindle]

you're being strangely aggressive

[high forge]

You can't be disappointed if you're already set for disappointment

[formal kelp]

But I wont be disappointed either way

So its best to be positive

[coarse leaf]

Wasn't the original leak "null"? The two main theories were that the data was based on region or it was added within the time frame of the two leaks.

[frigid basin]

the original leak was not "null", that was the second leak

[summer kindle]

and i'm not you so shush

[formal kelp]

Well im not you either so shush too

Its called opinions

[summer kindle]

right i forgot i am not allowed to have those

sincerest apologies

[formal kelp]

Funi man r u not

[summer kindle]

undecipherable

[coarse leaf]

Damn I was like 90% sure fireborn had said the null leak was the original

[summer kindle]

you say this and then say something about opinions

[burnt topaz]

Guys cmon

[ocean mulch]

Hi

[burnt topaz]

Hey chroma

[summer kindle]

well if being positive is an opinion but being negative is just sad then i don't know what counts as an opinion hello chroma

[ocean mulch]

I have arrived

Omg torbie

[summer kindle]

hello yes that is me

[ocean mulch]

The trash rodent

[summer kindle]

the one and only

[frigid basin]

i think that the "original" first leak had null, but the second leak (that was chronologically before the first one) had a date @coarse leaf

[summer kindle]

wrong person

mobile moment i assume

[frigid basin]

fuck you Discord

no it was Discord autocorrecting who I was trying to ping on desktop

[summer kindle]

odd

also i mean you replied to my messag

[coarse leaf]

Interesting. Doesn't that still add credibility to the region lock theory because Nvidia wouldn't be able to damage control before the leaks were even public?

[frigid basin]

not necessarily, if the leaks were pulled from the same geolocation

[coarse leaf]

Well that's why the theory exists in the first place. The "original" leak and the other two fireborn checked were different geolocations

Regardless, what I'm saying is to take the info lightly because the validity of the info is definitely questionable

[summer kindle]

oh what bug fables was mentioned in this channel today at 2 am

[rapid topaz]

anyone can send me "The clown troupe" meme in high quality, in DM ? I can't find it

[summer kindle]

i wish i could

[burnt topaz]

Just wait a few hours, it'll probably be posted

[summer kindle]

but i don't have it

[rapid topaz]

nevermind I found it

[burnt topaz]

Epic

[rich fractal]

Ye, people tend to get too emotionally invested. Best is to just hope for good stuff, but if it doesn't happen, I don't feel bad. Just shrug and move on. But if it does happen, the hype feels better now

[hollow gull]

so... there's no way the use of dies irae in the silksong trailer was an arbitrary decision

[sweet lotus]

what is dies irae?

[dry copper]

Hopes for Silksong in direct

[hollow gull]

it's a leitmotif that's usually associated with death/destruction

[primal oriole]

it also plays when you kill Moss Mother

[hollow gull]

"dies irae" translates to "day of wrath" and I have a feeling that's directly related to what pharloom's folly talks about

[hollow gull]

does it? that's cool

[sweet lotus]

what is the relation between this leitmotif and Silksong's trailer?

[primal oriole]

it plays at the end

[hollow gull]

it plays throughout

[primal oriole]

https://youtu.be/yQxwbZsL14Y?t=120

[burnt topaz]

Ooh dies irae discussion

[hollow gull]

but yeah, this was probably already established but it's just sinking in for me how grand the scale of silksong and pharloom's story will (likely) be

perhaps hornet's journey to the top of the citadel won't be to make something happen, but to prevent something from happening

[hushed wasp]

so uh

[formal kelp]

Exactly, at least someone who understands

[hushed wasp]

opinions on the fireborn video?

[brittle garnet]

Don't take at face value

[formal kelp]

Id believe it

[hollow gull]

way too "this is real" in tone, very misleading

[formal kelp]

lol nice argument

[tribal merlin]

it's youtube...

[hushed wasp]

i mean february 2022 sounds reasonable

[formal kelp]

yeah it does

[hollow gull]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[tribal merlin]

ok then what's the other side's argument? TC didn't tell anyone the release date safe one numpty at nvidia?

[hushed wasp]

I mean nvidia probably would have wanted to know the release date

[formal kelp]

Ive already said what ive said

[hollow gull]

personally I think it's a placeholder, but even a placeholder for early 2022 does imply an early 2022 release window (but also tc may decide to work on it further)

[formal kelp]

Seems u havent listened tho

[hollow gull]

either way it's not gonna be February 1st, that's a Tuesday

[turbid grove]

if silksongs release date is feb 1st 2022, then we should be around 11260000 seconds away from release

[formal kelp]

lol what does Tuesday have to do with it

[tribal merlin]

for TC to have a release date right now it would mean they have a release candidate, all major bugs are fixed and all the work left is straightforward, plus they know when nintendo will have greenlit the game for the store

[turbid grove]

just 131 days away

[burnt topaz]

Make that at least 11259990

[hollow gull]

that's near the start of a work week, if I were releasing one of the most anticipated indie games, I'd want to do it on a weekend

[formal kelp]

I guess that makes some sense

[formal karma]

it's also 99.99% a placeholder

[hollow gull]

just like Nintendo releases all their games on Friday

[formal kelp]

Wanna say it a few more times so we can hear it louder

[hushed wasp]

hey lets not insult eachother

[formal kelp]

I'm not insulting

[formal karma]

yea... that wasn't insulting

[formal kelp]

A simple request

[hollow gull]

the question is not whether or not it's a placeholder, it's how accurate of a timeframe is it

[hushed wasp]

Somewhere in february though

saturday maybe end friday

[brittle garnet]

Wrong

[burnt topaz]

If we ignore Nvidias influence, a bunch of people here were already saying early to mid 2022

[hushed wasp]

thats just speculation

[burnt topaz]

Yeah I know

[tribal merlin]

most likely the date didn't come from TC (3rd parties usually don't input data in "internal testing") so I'd say it's about as accurate as somebody throwing out a date here in chat

[hollow gull]

that actually makes sense, idk why that hadn't occurred to me lol

[brittle garnet]

Timeframe accuracy is impossible to determine, anything anyone says about when they think it'll release is based mostly on what "feels right" to them.

We have nothing to go off of.

[burnt topaz]

All of our bases are on hollow knight and silksong isn't hollow knight

[iron spear]

This guy release dates

[brittle garnet]

What does this mean

[crisp thistle]

I honestly don't care how long it takes for them to release it

[iron spear]

Yeah I hope it's at least another 5 years

[crisp thistle]

At least they are taking the time to fully flesh it out and finish it. Unlike alot of AAA game companies these days

[crisp thistle]

Damn dude put down the salt

[rapid topaz]

dreams destroyed

[summer kindle]

indie games tend to be better than aaa games but that's just my opinion

[crisp thistle]

I agree

[hushed wasp]

agree

[iron spear]

2027 at this rate smh

[opaque sigil]

In some ways. Often aaas are more polished and more expansive, but indies are more innovative

[brittle garnet]

I still don't get what this means

[iron spear]

May as well make your own game

[formal karma]

there that's proof of 2022 release, graigs secrets are revealed

[iron spear]

99.99% of Indies are completely horrible

[brittle garnet]

No like, I don't get what that sentence is supposed to convey

[iron spear]

You only know the good ones

AAA titles are much better hit rate

[tall hinge]

graig is saying you are good at release dates

[bleak scarab]

not all indies get the privileged of being as good as ugly jesus vs mummy

[viral pivot]

XD

[drowsy hound]

https://twitter.com/EmilyRogersBlog/status/1440904811344547840

Emily Rogers (@EmilyRogersBlog)

What I hope to see in tomorrow's Nintendo Direct:

• Xenoblade Chronicles 3
• Kirby (Been 3 years since Star Allies)
• Castlevania Advance Collection
• GTA Trilogy
• A trio of 90s consoles come to NSO
• Silksong

If we get at least 3 of those, it's a good Direct.

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[opaque sigil]

AAAs play it safe. They kinda have to, a niche game with a huge budget isn't a great way to make money

[iron spear]

The ultimate game

[summer kindle]

true true

[hushed wasp]

What you will see tommorow in nintendo direct:

& finally

[rapid topaz]

I think you're not wrong, there's a lot of hidden crusty games and bootlegs. They're just not popular obviously

[burnt topaz]

The plot twist at the end really subverted my expectations

[rapid topaz]

I won't say 99.9% though that seems exagerrated

[bleak scarab]

What do you mean, ugly jesus vs mummy is the best game

[iron spear]

Yeah ok 99%

[rapid topaz]

lmao

[tall hinge]

[burnt topaz]

Yes the plot twist at the end of ugly Jesus vs mummy

[tall hinge]

yo spoilers? wtf

[burnt topaz]

I'm sorry

[hushed wasp]

what is happening

[bleak scarab]

go play it now

[tall hinge]

im playing it rn

[agile kelp]

It was truly and inarguably the best game, hollowknight had mimicked but a fraction of its greatness and could be seen as a tribute to the incredible game of ugly Jesus versus mummy

[iron spear]

Get a perfect score for the true ending

[tall hinge]

and now i know theres a plot twist, smh

[summer kindle]

ii mean if you factor in literally all the games made by random people then yeah

[velvet ruin]

Well, AAA games HAVE to be good, because many people are gonna play them anyway, if they are not good, they'll cause a shitstorm

[opaque sigil]

You would, those are indie games

[hushed wasp]

aaa games cause a shitstorm eitherway

[iron spear]

Yes that's what Indies are lol

[tall hinge]

arent all indie games made by random people

[burnt topaz]

Little Timmy's first scratch game really ruins the census

[tribal merlin]

that's why they convince people to preorder

[velvet ruin]

Most people don't care about indies so you don't see outrages over them

[tired lake]

Graig pog

[frigid basin]

Kirby's honestly quite likely

[summer kindle]

i would explain what exactly i meant but i don't know how to word sentences so i'll just leave it off as coming off as stupid

[tall hinge]

nw

[tacit pivot]

Hi guys. My friend told me that Silksong release date was leaked. Is that true?

[opaque sigil]

[tired lake]

[tall hinge]

yes, but we dont know if its a placeholder date or not

[tacit pivot]

Ok

[frigid basin]

perhaps

[tribal merlin]

not in the sense of an official release date

[formal karma]

i mean yea a date was leaked but its almost certainly a placeholder

[frigid basin]

we don't know if it's true or false yet

[hollow gull]

the nvidia database had feb 1st as the silksong release date

[tacit pivot]

Wow

[tall hinge]

Wow

[tribal merlin]

afaik it has it as "earliest possible date" or something, which in itself isn't a release date

[placid obsidian]

Awesome

[tacit pivot]

Oh ok

[hollow gull]

there was a leak, but the credibility is up to debate

[summer kindle]

probably a mistype, they most likely meant 2020

[neon talon]

It's really stupid because so many people see the success stories and don't realise how unlikely it is

[opaque sigil]

Survivor bias

[iron spear]

It's not unlikely, it just takes a good game

[hollow gull]

good games are unlikely

[neon talon]

which is unlikely from an indie dev, lets be honest

[tall hinge]

it takes skill and passion, thats just kinda hard to find

[frigid basin]

🤔

[summer kindle]

i'd bump it up to 98.99% though

[opaque sigil]

that's what it says

[iron spear]

Yeah ppl underestimate the amount of actual talent needed

[tall hinge]

we take that 0.01% anyday

[opaque sigil]

I mean you're competing with people with way more resources and experience

[neon talon]

so many indie games are started by people who just want to make good money without much effort, but they have no idea

[native ivy]

No silksong but we getting ugly Jesus vs mummy for the gamecube

[summer kindle]

yesssss

[frigid basin]

why are you up

[neon talon]

me included up until a year ago, when the game I was making flopped

[frigid basin]

it's fucking 5 AM - i'm up only because i'm hungry

[opaque sigil]

Because I am

I'm an involuntary morning person, I've been up for 2 hours, since 4

[tribal merlin]

yeah but also you don't have shareholders and management telling you to just reuse as much as possible and hurry the fuck up we want our money

[coarse leaf]

I feel like that's less morning and more night. Are you a night person?

[tall hinge]

and here we see the rare morning person, in their natural habitat

[iron spear]

Pro tip, always do a kick starter

Make a trailer etc

[frigid basin]

hey Graig, I sent you a PM about something

[iron spear]

If it flops then guess what... Your game was always going to

Note move on to something else

[opaque sigil]

I guess, but idk if that's quite as crippling as insufficient funding or personnel

[hollow gull]

I want to make a really good indie game but my brain breaks at the sight of code lol

[tall hinge]

the hard truth

[iron spear]

The kickstart is more than just fund raising

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, it's a measure of how appealing the project is

[summer kindle]

make it in scratch

[opaque sigil]

If people are willing to give you money up front just for the concept, people'll probably buy the finished game

[iron spear]

Exactly

[tribal merlin]

insufficient funding or personnel have a limited impact on the base idea and mechanics. like look where minecraft is at now and how it started

[opaque sigil]

Fair enough

[hollow gull]

hnnnng I could try for sure, but I don't have a lot of game development knowledge in the first place lol

[summer kindle]

well you won't learn by doing nothing, right

[hollow gull]

Also I wouldn't want my dream project under creative commons lol

[summer kindle]

yeah that was mostly a joke

[hollow gull]

yeah ik, but for real scratch is like a good entry level for me

[summer kindle]

i'm trying to learn C# because i can

[coarse leaf]

Australia's typing

[iron spear]

Start with something like RPGmaker or something that has little code and does everything for you. Sure it's more rigid but you can learn how to make fun games much faster

[coarse leaf]

What a time to be alive

[summer kindle]

riiight rpgmaker

forgot it exists

[hollow gull]

I used to use rpgmaker, but I kinda fell off

[iron spear]

Honestly learning unity is better than learning C#. I mean you need both but unity can do a lot with only the basics in C#

[hollow gull]

I don't use it anymore because I have MV which is outdated and there's no way I'm shelling out nearly a hundred dollars for MZ

[surreal bone]

you can do more in unity with better c# understanding

[tall hinge]

wtf? godseeker outside of #wkroll-discussion?

we are blessed

[iron spear]

Well yeah but you can do WAY more with knowing how Unity's components etc all work

[summer kindle]

fair enough

[surreal bone]

i don't trust them high level programming gimmicks

if i can't manipulate my processor directly why bother

[iron spear]

Pour water on it

[hollow gull]

my real excuse is I'm just lazy and don't want to put that much effort into anything 😔

case in point: me being awake at 5am because I'm procrastinating sleep

[viral pivot]

XD I used to do that a ton

[hollow gull]

help

[coarse leaf]

True that, I can't into socializing so the only things I do are lurk for anything on #hk-announcements or wkroll on the nitro channel lol

[viral pivot]

'I'll stay up so I can finish my work later but I'm also gonna procrastinate from work a bit'

[surreal bone]

actually does boosting do anything to partner servers?
don't they have everything?

[tall hinge]

based

[viral pivot]

Then at like 6 in the morning I would just give up on sleep

[hollow gull]

no I'm just straight up procrastinating on sleep, it's "too much" of a time investment lol

[viral pivot]

Ah XD

[hollow gull]

I can't be on discord if I'm trying to fall asleep, y'know what I mean?

[neat ginkgo]

What do y'all think about the "official" leak?

[opaque sigil]

For one, it is not official.

It also is most likely a placeholder date

[fathom nymph]

honestly it sounds too suspicious but then again the date kinda matches up to some expectations and what geforce said could very well be damage control

[neat ginkgo]

Thats why i put it in quotes

[fathom nymph]

like i thought ppl expected it to be late 2021 or early 2022

[opaque sigil]

Expectations aren't evidence, they can't corroborate things

And that date could have said anything and it would still be true that it matches with some expectations

[neat ginkgo]

Did anybody else saw that discord nitro message here 5 misn ago or it was just me?

[opaque sigil]

Probably a scam, definitely spam, mods took care of it

[fathom nymph]

it isnt but even if the date is false its better then not knowing any date at all

[opaque sigil]

I disagree.

Believing that some functionally random date is the legitimate release date will likely not lead to a pleasant surprise

[nimble radish]

it's arguably worse than nothing considering it gets your hopes up for nothing

[fluid geyser]

I just saw a notice on my phone about silksong relase date being filtrated before Nintendo Direct?

I mean sure is false but ?????

[opaque sigil]

Furthermore, TC has tried to avoid just this scenario, where people get excited and then disappointed by a flawed date

That's their explicit reason for not providing one

[whole sedge]

Yeah I’m not gonna get my hopes up until there’s an official date haha

[fluid geyser]

See?

[opaque sigil]

Dammit the journalists found it, did they?

It isn't the real date

[whole sedge]

I’ve seen a couple articles like that but it doesn’t mean it’s true

[opaque sigil]

Oh of course it isn't true, but once one does it, they all will. Like Leth's quote

[smoky gyro]

UMM

do we get banned if we talk about the leak ?

[whole sedge]

We do??

[opaque sigil]

No

[fluid geyser]

What leak?

[opaque sigil]

But there's really nothing to say

[smoky gyro]

go to fireborn's yt chanel

[fluid geyser]

Okay 👌

[smoky gyro]

2 of my most anticipated games will release on the same month

[whole sedge]

Honestly it’s not much of a leak anyway

[opaque sigil]

In all likelihood it isn't accurate

[whole sedge]

But I’ll delete my message anyway

[opaque sigil]

And even if it is it isn't actually a release date, it's a projected earliest possible date, and there's no reason to trust nvidia's ability to judge that

[fallow apex]

It’s prolly wrong but some people will get hyped and than get mad if it doesnt come out on the date

[opaque sigil]

Yes, they will, which is unfortunate

[whole sedge]

Yeah >_>

[coarse leaf]

hi guys, we are the Hammer Team, we wanted to tell you that we would like to participate in the nintendo live / streaming ... could you give us the link?

[opaque sigil]

Just look at nintendo's twitter or smth

[coarse leaf]

I just want to hear something definitive soon....

[opaque sigil]

We probably won't hear anything definitive until the game's pretty much done

[whole sedge]

There’s a Nintendo live-streaming thing?

[coarse leaf]

2 years on I wonder if the reveal trailer should have been delayed to early / mid 2021.

Instead of coming in 2019. That way it wouldnt be so agonizing.

[opaque sigil]

If they did that people would be asking questions about why a dlc was taking more than a year or two

And besides, it's only been 2.5 years since reveal, which is not that long

[whole sedge]

I like it better this way, where we know it’s coming

[fallow apex]

Yeah Thats really short compared to some stuff

[coarse leaf]

Egh. Its a while. Thats about 1/13th my life span so far, and a few months longer than my nephew has been alive.

Its not exactly a short amount of time.

[opaque sigil]

It only seems like a long time if you're focusing on the game

If the wait is killing you, just stop waiting. Disengage and it'll be out before you know it

[coarse leaf]

yes, nintendo italy has announced that in the italian time zone at 00:00 it will bring a live streaming on the release dates of various titles.

I have disengaged. Repeatedly. It doesnt help all the time because you eventually recall the game every few months and hear nothing.

[fallow apex]

So just do something instead of waiting

[opaque sigil]

Then every few months you get agitated for a little bit, then back to being fine

[coarse leaf]

Anyway February 2022 seems reasonable to me, and what I predicted a few months ago last I was here.

I honestly hope we see it in Q1 2022 at the very least though.

[agile kelp]

Get another hyperfixation or game to wait for like metroid dread, once your done with that game go back to hollowknight and news may have popped up

[coarse leaf]

Metroid doesnt really interest me much. Its too heavy on exploration, not on combat. Plus its too gun based.