sk-discussion

[prisma thicket]

Why wouldn't we bet for events then ?

[tribal merlin]

because the information will reach us before the event

[marsh ibex]

because most major news drops have been forecast in advance

[nimble pebble]

[prisma thicket]

Not always, they shadowdropped switch edition on E3

[marsh ibex]

ie both Edge and the announcement trailer drop

I was referring to silksong shit goddamn

[tribal merlin]

that wasn't a new game tho

[neat junco]

I’m kinda getting concerned about Silksong

[nimble pebble]

Technically Leth egging on May 29th was it? ended up in riddles so you can count that too

[marsh ibex]

[prisma thicket]

Leth said himself he's looking for events, and shadowdrop was a possibility

[nimble pebble]

The latter is still unlikely

[neat junco]

I hope they don’t put too many ideas in it and make it really clunky and annoying

[marsh ibex]

yeah it’s a possibility. Doesn’t mean that it’ll happen

[opal lintel]

theory: TC is taking so long because they’re adding the battle royale gamemode

[prisma thicket]

My point is, looking for events announcement is not pointless

[marsh ibex]

It kinda is

how many times have people been right about that

zero times

[nimble pebble]

TC is a professional company not kids in a candy store they'll know when to stop and how to coordinate it

[orchid rune]

why did you react that on your own message

[marsh ibex]

and you know what happens every time said event doesn’t have news

pissy fans

[nimble pebble]

Should be negative 1

[prisma thicket]

Because nobody expected a game release from TC before also

[marsh ibex]

bruv what

what are you on

[tribal merlin]

people kinda expected HK release

[marsh ibex]

People have expected silksong since the trailer drop

[nimble pebble]

[marsh ibex]

“Oh it looks finished”

“It’ll be a couple of months at most”

[nimble pebble]

You played yourself

[opal lintel]

i’d be happy if the game released in 2023 as long as it means it’s finished

[nimble pebble]

[orchid rune]

i think it will be like mid or end of 2022

[prisma thicket]

Did this server even exist then ?

[nimble pebble]

yes

[opal lintel]

me too but just saying

[marsh ibex]

Sir this is a Wendy’s

[prisma thicket]

my bad

[bleak scarab]

what will you all do if it takes longer than 2023

[nimble pebble]

I'm a Q1-Q3 2022 guy for now

[tribal merlin]

continue waiting

[orchid rune]

nothing cause we arent stupid kids and we know how to be pacient and trust that tc is doing a good job

[marsh ibex]

I’m trying to get silksong released before college yknow

[nimble pebble]

I'm sure there's some stupid kids in here somewhere ||/s||

[rancid crow]

it will not and i con explain why

[bleak scarab]

that is indeed true

[opal lintel]

theory: TC is taking extra time to do a crossover with halo infinite

[nimble pebble]

Also Pacient seems like a cool word

[nimble pebble]

They're doing a crossover with zoteboat

[mortal grove]

die inside but wait anyways

[rancid crow]

because they said crowsworn will be launching in a stimative of december 2023 and ss is much mor advanced in development then crowsworn

[rancid crow]

i like it too

[nimble pebble]

Wait like a normal human being because a good project takes time and I'm not an impatient child

[signal crag]

that's what Leth think at least

[orchid rune]

i wonder just where those stupid kids are hiding ||/s||

[opal lintel]

hollow knight 3: quirrel (he has a gun)

[nimble pebble]

I was watching someone stream an early copy of Psychonauts 2 which the person in question had been waiting 16 YEARS for I think the people here can wait for Silksong

[mortal grove]

i will be a little upset inside but its fine i can wait

[nimble pebble]

You get your daily dose each and every day || /s||

[mortal grove]

you mean /srs

[tulip grove]

i have not spoken here in a few months lol
how's everybody?

[nimble pebble]

~~They can't get mad at me for calling them stupid if I put a /s ~~

[orchid rune]

talking about stupid impatient children

[nimble pebble]

Vibin, playing a new game I got

[orchid rune]

its like the /j but better

[nimble pebble]

indeed

[mortal grove]

could be better

[tulip grove]

same
having to be in mandatory lockdown for the past 8 weeks sucks arse

[orchid rune]

where are you from?

[nimble pebble]

Where do you live

[mortal grove]

ive been in lockdown for like a year now

[tulip grove]

Aussie land

[tulip grove]

bruh

[real vector]

I kind of want it to not come out until 2022 because I want to record my first playthrough, but am a stupid little idiot who can't get Obs to function on Mac

[orchid rune]

haha pillow slow

[nimble pebble]

Sounds a little entitled when after those 8 weeks things go back to normal for you, Where I live people are too stupid to follow the rules and just make it worse so we have a lot of lockdowns

[tulip grove]

tbh, SS may very well come out in 2022
as in, i used to firmly believe in a 2021 release, but 2022 seems quite probable to me now

[orchid rune]

@nimble pebble where do you live

[mortal grove]

oh nevermind im stupid

[tulip grove]

yeesh
also these 8 weeks aren't even over
lockdown's guaranteed to say until at least one more month and most likely the month after that

[nimble pebble]

Canada but at least we're better off than the U.S

[real vector]

I don't really care anymore, just as long as I don't get hit by a bus before it comes out I will be fine

[burnt topaz]

I didn't realize things were so bad in certain areas, things almost feel like they're back to normal here besides masks

[nimble pebble]

Well, it's a pandemic people tend to forget that, you know a global virus halting things because many people are dying and preventing the spread is important

[real vector]

get poked, stop virus

[orchid rune]

im from Portugal in Europe (no its not Spain) Canada seems nice i know some people who would like to live there also the entire planet thinks that canadians are good and peacefull

[nimble pebble]

Well when you live in a place where people follow the rules and want to get through this it goes a lot smoother

[quick echo]

i dont care about the release date i just want a new trailer

[bold owl]

where i live almost no one wears a mask

[nimble pebble]

The latter isn't true but we have a decent nice to asshole ratio also who calls Portugal spain?

[burnt topaz]

I guess that's how things are in small town England

[real vector]

'muricans

[bold owl]

at this point i dont even want them to release the date nor do i want a trailer, id be happy with any news

[quick echo]

same

[signal crag]

team "i just want the release date" vs team "any news is fine, really"

[burnt topaz]

A trailer that doesn't have a release date now feels kinda redundant unless they have something they really want to show

[tulip grove]

that being said though, what're your ideas on price?

[orchid rune]

also no i dont really like to live in portugal this country cares to much about football for some reason and also the weather is just horrible sometimes but even if i dont like this country i just dont get it why people call it spain

[bold owl]

id say similar to HK, 15 dollars maybe 20

[nimble pebble]

I swear people these days are so entitled can't even cooperate for the sake of others instead of themselves if this were WWll where we had to turn off our lights to avoid getting bombed. We'd get bombed because they'd say "Why should I have to turn off my lights, I don't want to"

[quick echo]

30 dollars or something like that

[tulip grove]

i've literally spent yesterday planning and today trading a couple of my TF2 items so that i could have enough money to buy Dark Deception Complete lol

[wicked hollow]

How the hell do we have the same pfp

[mortal grove]

[quick echo]

lol

[signal crag]

15$
even 20$ sounds not that likely tbh

[tulip grove]

thing is, i've been saving at least $30 AUD since March last year purely for Silksong, so i don't know how much i can bypass the sub-$30 limit

[bold owl]

even at 30 dollars it'd be a steal, HK has so much content and quality for a 15 dollar game its insane

[nimble pebble]

They said SS will be priced around the same as HK

[real vector]

I would buy it at 20-25 USD

[signal crag]

because 15$ would still work just fine, and it would feel such a powerful move to give a product that's both bigger AND better than HK at the same price

[orchid rune]

when did they say that?

[wicked hollow]

Ngl I would by silksong for full AAA price

[signal crag]

TC wants to keep their games accessible

[tulip grove]

also yes, i was one of those chumps who believed in a March 2020 release last year, so i've been having at least $30 in my Steam wallet since then

[mortal grove]

i hope tc's other games will be as successful as hollow knight

[nimble pebble]

Maybe for you, You know there's people in other countries where $15 USD is a lot right?

[signal crag]

i think most believed that 2019 was possible thanks to Nintendo

[nimble pebble]

That's the exact reason HK was $15

[real vector]

I would be fine if Team Cherry made news about another game

[rancid crow]

here is like 75 reais

[signal crag]

didn't TC wanted to sell HK at ONLY 10$, before Leth make them change their minds?

[bold owl]

I dont live in america, here the game is 60 ILS which is still very very good since triple A games cost like 335 ILS

[rancid crow]

but they adapted it so is 30 reais to not be so expensive

[tulip grove]

$15 USD is a little over $20 AUD for me

[nimble pebble]

Good for you but that isn't the case for all places which is why HK and probably SS are priced so low

[tulip grove]

but since there's been rumours of SS potentially costing around $20 USD, i've been saving up for that scenario

[signal crag]

many of those "rumours"....are just what fans says in general

[wicked hollow]

Really hope it get a trailer qt gamescom tommorow

[tulip grove]

true

[nimble pebble]

What rumour? there's literally no confirmed price it'll either be $15 or $20 because TC cares about accessibility

[signal crag]

there have been no leaks of any kind

[nimble pebble]

That's my birthday

[orchid rune]

why would that be a thing

[tulip grove]

yeah i know, hence why they're "rumours

[nimble pebble]

Typically rumours are founded in some truth which this one isn't

[wicked hollow]

Happy day before birthday 🎂

[noble patrol]

Early happy birthday

[burnt topaz]

Happy birthday for tomorrow

[bold owl]

I know different people have different circumstances, im just saying that the price tag on hollow knight is low COMPARED to the popular triple A games which cost more than 3 times as much

[tulip grove]

it essentially stems from the fact that SS is going to be potentially bigger than HK, with better quality and whatnot, hence the slight price increase

[mortal grove]

🥸🥸🥸

[rancid crow]

kappy birthday

[tulip grove]

Happy Birthday in advance

[signal crag]

at this point is almost confirmed it will be, lemme get a thing

[tulip grove]

i can't afford a moving one, so the static Quirrel will have to do :1

[nimble pebble]

But what if, and hear me out here they keep it the same price because they want it to be widely accessible and if you really want to support TC more buy merch or buy more copies of the game for yourself or others

[signal crag]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/payeho/so_i_met_this_nice_bloke_in_town_the_other_day/

just to add to this, Ari was a really nice bloke to chat to. I didn’t want to bother him too much (as he was having lunch with someone) but he did mention that Covid has not impacted production of Silksong because the team is so small (meaning social restrictions etc didn’t really apply). Apparently the scope of the game is Waaaaayy bigger than they initially expected it to be, hence development is taking a longer than anticipated.

[noble patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/824945009925029891.gif?v=1

[signal crag]

also yeah, 15$ would still work great for them

[nimble pebble]

and others

[mortal grove]

🥸

[bold owl]

i think you misunderstood what i said, i didnt say i WANT them to up the price tag, im just saying if they did it wouldnt be as bad in comparison to other games

[tulip grove]

that actually sounds very TC

[nimble pebble]

Cause it is

[mortal grove]

_ _

[quick echo]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[tulip grove]

they legit released a huge game filled to the brim with content for a low price, then proceeded to add even more content four times for no extra cost

[mortal grove]

tc dont care tc go brrrrrrrr

[signal crag]

content that was supposed to be in the base game, but yeah, sure.

[tulip grove]

content nonetheless

[real vector]

Wheras nintendo could make a screen .8 inches wider for 50 extra dollars

[mortal grove]

🧑‍🦲

[wicked hollow]

Genuinely there are so many games like hk that would actually deserve to be AAA price, and there are so many AAA games that are so full of bugs and microtransactions that they deserve to be indie price

[real vector]

tru dat

[tulip grove]

welp, it's settled then
i'm prepared to permanently bypass the $30 threshold by about a dollar

[signal crag]

alright, better safe than sorry

[marsh ibex]

it’s funny how “covid not impacting them” is something we already knew

But it’s gonna be treated as new info

[signal crag]

i guess not everyone was aware of that?

[cedar trench]

to be really honest

they couldn't really say "oh yeah the game is almost done lolololololol"
They just said what we already knew
and thats valid (and predictable)

them saying the game is HUUUUUGE is really not a surprise considering the enemies and the benches and all the other info they gave us

this is literally only proof that they are all alive and well

[mortal grove]

woohoo ari isnt dead yet

[cedar trench]

what does that yet indicate what are you going to do sa1t

[mortal grove]

[coarse leaf]

Why do people even need proof that the people from TC havent died yet why would anyone assume that

[cedar trench]

thats literally why all they said is pointless

[split cypress]

is ari still preg

[nimble pebble]

Watch FF only take 3 years and they announce it 6 months before it launches because it isn’t a massive expanded project like SS

But watch its sequel take longer than SS

[coarse leaf]

Pregnant?

[cedar trench]

yeah i think thats why ss got announced so early but is gonna release so late

[split cypress]

pregy

[mortal grove]

wha

[coarse leaf]

what does preg mean

[cedar trench]

silksong the

game of hornet the spider in
pahrloom yeah!!!

what if we talked about it

[real vector]

no

[cedar trench]

ok

[coarse leaf]

I like silksong

[rancid crow]

woulb be cool

[coarse leaf]

I think it’ll turn out great and extremely buggy (no its not a pun im gonnnac ry)

[real vector]

what does preg mean

[nimble pebble]

Pregante

[coarse leaf]

I really hope there will be actual fish instead of bugs shaped like fish in ss

that would be interesting

HOLY SHIT HORNET FISHING

[marsh ibex]

@split cypress do not

[real vector]

I hope there are bird

[wicked hollow]

It means pregnant,

[coarse leaf]

oh my god

[rancid crow]

any brazilian here?

[wicked hollow]

@rancid crow are you Brazilian

[real vector]

silence

[rancid crow]

yeah

[wicked hollow]

@rancid crow then there is a Brazilian here

[dusty nimbus]

Lomjic

[silver oak]

I was gonna mention a Reddit post I saw but looks like someone already beat me to it

[cedar trench]

@dusty nimbus its 10 days now

[silver oak]

I found the post last night but that comment was posted while I was asleep

[silver oak]

Oh no, what is it this time

[cedar trench]

something pretty huge and unexpected not ss related

[silver oak]

What game

Or I guess what event

[cedar trench]

its a surprise

[real vector]

birtday?

I have one day until spelunky is available on switch

[dusty nimbus]

[haughty brook]

So...how big, map size, do you think SS will be in comparison with HK? For me, maybe 1.25 to 1.5 at maximum.

[pastel jolt]

Ok I know it’s probably a no but I have to ask. Do y’all think silksong will@show up at the indie showcase at gamescon

[formal karma]

Literally no chance

[pastel jolt]

Yea probably but man if there is

[tall hinge]

probably not but we can hope

[noble patrol]

Don't hope too much

[pastel jolt]

I feel really bad for showcases and especially Nintendo bc every single post they make or games showcase that happens the entire comments is silksong when

[formal karma]

Sure... hope.but it's not going g to happen so also make peace

[viscid anchor]

why is it the only time i ever enter this chat i see a message about brazil

i live here

[reef scarab]

Normally I think maybe there’s a chance but I really don’t think it’ll be at gamescom

[brittle garnet]

yeah, I highly doubt it as well

[noble patrol]

Me too

[stoic jacinth]

well we'll figure out in about 2 days so it's about like indieworld

while it's possible they have a presentation of stuff that wasn't there in e3 season, i doubt it

[marsh elk]

Well, Leth didn't say anything this time so far... so... there is a chance i guess? I think gamescom is a good event to make a sudden reveal of a release date.

[stoic jacinth]

I'm not sure how many days away from e3 he deconfirmed but even then he's a human being with a schedule

[marsh elk]

well, we will see in 3 hours

[stoic jacinth]

I'm not familiar with the gamescon schedule, but i'm pretty sure it's 2 days, was that changed by it being online?

so it may be awhile before we're sure

[marsh elk]

nah, i don't think so, big stuff gonna show today cause it is opening. And Silksong is pretty big as far as i know

[stoic jacinth]

fair enough

[sly fern]

we are many

[wicked hollow]

Gamescom's indie event is happening tommorow, not sure what time, pretty early in the day I think

[stoic jacinth]

i guess at that point it's back to "is silksong marketed an indie game" discussion

[tall hinge]

a month before

[stoic jacinth]

wait actually

ok guess we may not get a deconfirm, but i'm not getting my hopes up

[marsh ibex]

He’s only deconfirmed like twice

[wicked hollow]

At this point the fanbase would lose their crap if we got a poster

[cursive jetty]

I think Leth deconfirms only before big events or if he sees that the hype is too much

[junior valley]

If they ever drop a silksong trailer someone spam ping me

[sly fern]

I think it's 6pm GMT

[sweet lotus]

Silksong's possible release window around in December. Before that we got Dread. After that, we got Elden Ring. Then, we go to Spring 2022 territory.

[coarse leaf]

I think the earliest we can get it is February of 2022

[nimble pebble]

Leth actually likes when there's a lot of hype His Marketing motto is all talk about the game is good talk since it spreads the word even bad talk is good since it means people are talking about it

[coarse leaf]

Sounds good 👍

[tall hinge]

2.22.22

[nimble pebble]

[coarse leaf]

Dang that would be cool

[tall hinge]

[balmy carbon]

you're going to regret saying that one day

[tall hinge]

thats an interesting outlook, but it makes sense

i think i would agree

[haughty brook]

So, a question regarding SS thats is apart from news. How big do you think the map size in SS will be in comparison with HK? I believe that its going to be beteween 1.25 to 1.5 at maximum.

[tall hinge]

2.5x

[coarse leaf]

Kinda like, “there’s no such thing as bad press”?

[balmy carbon]

SS is alot larger than HK, above double the size and content i'd say

[tall hinge]

yeah

[marsh ibex]

yeeep

[cursive jetty]

Yeah but he deconfirmed before E3 and an indie direct that had too much hype. Of course he wants the fanbase to be hyped but both times the hype was way too much so he wanted to calm people down

[marsh elk]

@haughty brook at least 2 times bigger i think

[marsh ibex]

that wasn’t really an issue?

he’s more like “sizable event”

“Not gonna be here. Takes 5 seconds to say no”

[sick moon]

I don't know if we can quite say double though. I don't expect it to take double the time complete if that's what you mean.

[tall hinge]

hes also asked if we want the deconfirms in the future so he may have decided that its better if he says nothing

[haughty brook]

I mean, being more than double in map size its gonna be too overwheming. I see 1.5 as the maximum because HK already has a massive map for a metroidvania. But I think the map itself will have more stuff and NPCs to interact with, if you know what I mean and also how the map itself is gonna be structured in comparison with SS.

[nimble pebble]

1.5 seems like the maximum for me too

[real vector]

well hornet is bigger

[signal crag]

i think they are aware of "scope creep" and are mindful about that

[marsh ibex]

my mum is score creep

[tall hinge]

yeah they talked about that a few times so at least theyre aware

[balmy carbon]

i mean i think it would take alot more time to complete for sure

[signal crag]

lol didn't wrote that right

[haughty brook]

A big ass massive map is not always good if there is no fun stuff to do or explore.

[sick moon]

It may be twice as big but relative to hornets size and speed it might take around the same time for hornet to get through.

[balmy carbon]

we can only guess cuz its not out yet

[sick moon]

Because she is just so much faster than the knight.

[real vector]

they said stuff about that in the magazine

she tall

[signal crag]

that changes everything

[sick moon]

Tall and fast bug

[haughty brook]

HK is already massive for a metroidvania and I don't think Hornet height is going to make the map size to be 2.5 bigger because that would turn the game to be too overwhelming at least TC are killing themselves to put enough stuff to make the journey entreataining enough

[tall hinge]

ok

[signal crag]

#sk-discussion message

[sick moon]

But you have to consider the speed and height of hornet like we were just saying. If the map is huge it could be okay just cause she goes through so fast and takes up more space. Do relative to hoe she plays it won't feel nearly as big so they have to up the scale.

[cerulean sable]

inb4 "the areas are too huge and you spend too much time going around visually samey terrain"

[real vector]

yes

[tall hinge]

oh god

[haughty brook]

Realistically I expect the game to be 1.5 map size bigger than HK with more "content" and "detail" in each area to justify the size.

[sick moon]

Aka sonic games lol. That was the problem with them going to 3d compared to Mario. It's literally just cause he's so fast that you can't make the world big and detailed enough cause hw just blows by it. It's kinda like that for hornet her but not NEARLY as extreme obviously

I think no matter what they do, I trust team cherry to make everything the right size for her and add enough content

[tall hinge]

you bring up a good point

[real vector]

but Silksong has Dave

[stoic jacinth]

I think part of why i like how long the game is taking is stuff like that, them really taking their time to polish these areas and bosses to make them feel like HK's areas

[haughty brook]

Sonic is about going faster than sound, Hornet speed is not that extreme and the comparison doesn't hold up. I going to say that SS is not going to have a map size more than double.

[stoic jacinth]

there's many ways something like SS could go wrong with broken skips and huge, empty maps, but they're really just continuing to flush stuff out to feel finished

[tall hinge]

youre right, but it might still come up as a problem

[real vector]

it will also have more complicated enemies, keep that in mind

[stoic jacinth]

yeah the cymbal shield enemy is more complex than like 99% of enemies in HK

[marsh ibex]

Bro what

did you actually say sonic zones look samey lmao

[sick moon]

I know that's what I was saying, it's still the same phenomenon happening but with sonic it's much more extreme. Long story short you match the world to the character and hope you can dial it in.

[marsh ibex]

they do not look samey visually at all lmao

[sick moon]

Not that they look samey from game to game, but when you have a character going so fast it's harder to make the worlds detailed due to time and money retrains cause they also have to be MASSIVE

[tall hinge]

i heard multiple people say hollow knight's areas all looked similar so its mostly a subjective thing i guess

[nimble pebble]

Idk man Chemical plant zone and green hill zone look pretty different

[real vector]

one zone looks the same all the way through, is what they meant I think

[cerulean sable]

more because on the subdued color palette

[tall hinge]

could be

[cerulean sable]

i disagree but i dont blame them when they say the game is different shades of blue

[nimble pebble]

Wow it's almost like Sonic stages have themes

[cerulean sable]

it has a dark palette which fits the decaying theme

[haughty brook]

Really hoping that SS makes those people change opinion because even the demo in Deep Docks shocases very different type of gameplay itterarions with terrain damage and tricky enemies.

[glossy gazelle]

Yeah sometimes a muted color palette can make areas blend in

Although I only really noticed it as an issue comparing Greenpath to Queen’s Gardens

[sick moon]

Yeah I think this time the areas will vary a little more. There were a few times on my first playthrough of hollowknight where I got Greenpath, Fungal Wastes, and Queens gardens mixed up.

Yeah it wasn't too bad though

[nimble pebble]

It's like wanting to buy a house but someone won't buy it because the walls are green, you can tell them to just paint it over in a colour they lie but they just can't picture it so they can't understand that kind of thing

[nimble pebble]

I'm very perceptive to slight colour shifts in hues so QG is pretty different to GP for me

[cerulean sable]

while the areas are different the vibe remains the same moody muted areas which i can see why some people have issues with HK's area variety

[sick moon]

Yeah, already the second games areas look a bit more varied

[haughty brook]

Honestly, I blame AAA games and their tendency of making big ass Hollywood setpieces and ruining people's perception of an artstyle and atmosphere in a game.

[tall hinge]

ok? why was that important to mention?

[sick moon]

Cause we were saying they felt a little samey at times

[glossy gazelle]

Like on the Right and bottom area on the map I didn’t have this issue. CoT and Kingdom’s Edge are pretty different to each other. Same with Royal Waterways and Ancient Basin

[nimble pebble]

Because you said they blended, and I was giving my personal experience and opinion on the matter though from anothers perspective I can agree

[tall hinge]

alright

[haughty brook]

Again, I say that AAA games ruined people's perception of how game uses its artsyle and atmosphere to set up a particular tone.

[glossy gazelle]

Although the color issue doesn’t seem to be an problem in SS, each area looks really distinctive from each other.

[cerulean sable]

also imo it doesnt help that fungal waste was a bland area

imo

[sick moon]

Yeah like I said, the variety wasn't too bad, especially after more than one playthrough. I still think it'll improve

[cerulean sable]

Greenpath was cool and a shift in colors but it is still very subdued

[glossy gazelle]

Yeah Fungal Waste was pretty lacking imo

[cerulean sable]

now that i think about it yeah, some areas can get samey and i dont mean in comparison with each other, but i mean the OVERALL area with how large they can get\

[tall hinge]

you must always be vigilant when expressing opinions about hollow knight in the hollow knight discord

[haughty brook]

I expect some people critizising Greymoor for being...grey.

[sick moon]

Yeah in general the new areas look a little more exciting. The first green area of SS seems really tame but past that it looks pretty active in comparison to the areas of the first game

[cerulean sable]

i go inbetween even if i think all of your opinions are objectively wrong because thats what i have to do /s/s/s

but for real, hence i wish for more area variety INSIDE of the biome itself

[sick moon]

That's understandable

[cerulean sable]

like for example, Moss Grotto had those spikey grey metallic spines growing near a cavern which isnt a new area BUT gave a new visual distinction

[tall hinge]

yeah! thats the problem bonesy brought up with the sonic games

[cerulean sable]

for me Greenpaths more distinct was the ruin style arena BG near Moss Charger

[haughty brook]

I think thats an area transition tho.

[sick moon]

Exactly, just reuse too many assets to cut the budget because it has to be huge. This game doesn't look to really have that issue though

[cerulean sable]

i feel like its gonna be a sub area related to Grotto

[royal wolf]

does anyone know if if silksong is going to be at gamescom?

[haughty brook]

Also, at least it seems Moss Grotto has more unique "rooms" if we see the trailer and Edge Magazine.

[cursive jetty]

Deep docks had some differences between rooms as well

[cerulean sable]

the question to "does anyone know if ss will show up on y" is usually answered with "no"

[tall hinge]

and we didnt really have those in hk

[cerulean sable]

fungal is legit my worst offender, while it does have the distinction with the Mantis Village, overall it blended that i couldnt seperate it regardless

everything just felt fuzzy

[cursive jetty]

We did, but they're probably more seemless in ss

[haughty brook]

Honestly, despite some of its flaws, HK is still a great game because I feel its an actual work made with passion for the media.

[sick moon]

We did a little bit. Like when you go into Fungal Wastes it kinda transitions with the mushrooms

[cerulean sable]

i mean it is yeah, but thats why were talking about possible room of improvements for a sequel theyre not rushed to do nor limited with a budget

[tall hinge]

true there are a few from crossroads to different places but i think that is a great idea to improve on in ss

[sick moon]

I think team cherry is just going for hollowknight 2 electric Boogaloo with solid quality of life improvements

[sacred stratus]

hi what are you guys talking about?

[cerulean sable]

Cross Road's redeeming quality visual variation wise was either Salubra's purple colored hut or the infection

i disagree that its just gonna be HK+ tbh

i feel like the resources they have right now would just make them go beyond what they wish HK couldve been in the first place and more

[tall hinge]

area variety inside of the areas

[sick moon]

Definitely infected crossroads. I think it's a great transition not only for the area but also the story line. It shows everything is still happening and moving forward

[haughty brook]

Really hoping we get something similar in SS.

[sick moon]

I hope they do something similar where an area can shift or change in SS when you return

[sacred stratus]

it is true that large areas should have variety in style or structure in order to signal to player where they are

[cerulean sable]

world reacting is one thing i really wish in general

i hated doing this quest for an RPG

expecting this character to talk about it

what did i get?

"Oh hey, if youre heading out of town make sure to go by the store for supplies, its dangerous outside with those people"

like bitch i already went outside, and the leader of "those people" already died

[cursive jetty]

The beginning of ss looks 100 times better that hk

[sick moon]

Yeah, I think TC dipped their toe into the concept of the world reacting to what you do already in the first game. I think that's another thing they can/will improve on

[cerulean sable]

i think it did decent enough for a dead kingdom

[tall hinge]

"Feeling tired? That bench may be iron, but I assure you it's quite comfortable. There's no better place to collect your thoughts before heading below.
Plus I enjoy the company. Not that you seem the talkative sort."

[cerulean sable]

Elderbug reacting some kind of weird shit happening once the infection was hitting while still acknowledging it, Myla slowly dying throughout, etc

[tall hinge]

hehe yeah im just joking

[cerulean sable]

was replying to the other

[tall hinge]

oh

[sacred stratus]

I hope moss grotto isn't like the crossroads of SS but rather is like the king's pass bcs the area does look pretty linear

[cerulean sable]

but yeah Elderbug at least acknowledges as hes kinda the guide in a way

[sick moon]

Yeah I think already with the new quest system there will be a lot more interaction like this.

[cerulean sable]

i think were clear here at least considering TC themselves said? that theyll prioritize the world over user convenience

same way how "we dont place benches, the world does. we wont place one that wont make sense" then again there are some limits to this ofc

[haughty brook]

Were did they said that???

[signal crag]

Another reason why now all platforms needs to have physical supports

[cerulean sable]

during an AMA?

[glossy gazelle]

I think that was Edge

[sick moon]

Plus this kingdom seems to not necessarily be dead, but controlled still. So I'm excited for the world to feel a little more lively, especially when we have a protagonist that can actually speak.

[cerulean sable]

i remember the bench part was during an AMA

[cursive jetty]

Yeah but I really hope there's a bigger part of the moss grotto besides the tutorial maybe that big leaf area with those deer enemies

[cerulean sable]

when a guy asking them why some of the benches were too far

[haughty brook]

I think in Edge they said that they "discovered" the world as they made it, as if it was being done organically.

[sage berry]

the bench thing was from one of the AMAs yea

[glossy gazelle]

Ah

[signal crag]

I doubt the moss grotto seen in the demo is all there is, it could simply act as the tutorial section, until you unlock another part of it.

[cerulean sable]

i expect the BG to be somewhat lit in the final game but they could probably go with the "its so far that its dark" reason instead

[haughty brook]

I think thats definitly the case seeing the trailer and Edge Magazine.

[glossy gazelle]

Well it’s obvious early footage

[cerulean sable]

well it could also stay dark

i dont expect everything to change

[tall hinge]

BG?

[glossy gazelle]

Background

[nimble pebble]

Moss that reacts when you step on it

[cerulean sable]

this section

[nimble pebble]

it dark ye

[cerulean sable]

its reasonable to keep it dark if theres no light and the cavern is big enough

[noble patrol]

vast new dom

[livid creek]

It looks like it just cuts off

[haughty brook]

I expect to have a more "faded" background rather than completely dark in the release.

[cerulean sable]

and FYI the last time i suggested it people went on arms against me saying WELL HUGE CAVES LIKE THAT CAN BE DARK ITS TC'S CHOICE IF ITS GONNA STAY THAT WAY

[buoyant osprey]

lol what

[cerulean sable]

which is where i was wondering if a fleshed BG is gonna be used or as is

[tall hinge]

those people are salty

[glossy gazelle]

People being people I see

[buoyant osprey]

people just like to mald about random things lmao

[cerulean sable]

its a hyperbole btw noone acted like that on me

but in general they didnt assume it was dark only because it was early footage

[buoyant osprey]

ah

[sage berry]

WELL ITS YOUR FAULT FOR TRYING TO SPEAK FOR TC YOU ENTITLED PRICK

[cerulean sable]

😔

[signal crag]

Hell, even the cage seen in lace’s arena is missing the chain, as seen in EDGE cover

Trailer was old

[naive flax]

void

[cursive jetty]

I like that they left stuff like that on purpose, they let us know the game isn't ready yet

[haughty brook]

I believe is super dark because of early footage, even in the demo there was different background from the trailer. Which it means that particular section will have a more detailed background but with more faded light when its goes more far in the distance rather than pitch darkness.

[glossy gazelle]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the trailer was late alpha/early beta footage

[tall hinge]

yeah no way

i think they might be in alpha rn but heavily doubt it

[cerulean sable]

IF it ever does get filled, i feel like a huge WOAHHH factor would happen if they use like a huge ass ravine in the BG (minus the sky ofc, bear with my visualization)

[glossy gazelle]

Well I mean it’s been two years since that trailer

[signal crag]

What counts as “alpha stage” in video games development?

[glossy gazelle]

So they really shouldn’t be in alpha by this point

[cerulean sable]

as per background syndrome

[signal crag]

At least it looks pretty

[winter cypress]

or some random crack in a wall

[sage berry]

ye I agree taco
the darkness of that part might be changed, but I also think they were ultimately trying to go for a feeling of huge magnitude

[tall hinge]

i imagine it as the first finished build of the game, but still with a bunch of bugs and errors. im probably wrong tho im just guessing

[signal crag]

That sound more like a early access tbh

[tall hinge]

actually that doesnt make much sense now that i think about it

yeah idk what alpha means

[haughty brook]

I think the big unexplore background gives a sense of grandiose scale to the game. Like, even if one explores the map size gamewise, there is still a sense of the unknwon and mistery on every corner.

[tall hinge]

forgive my dumbess

[signal crag]

It’s okay
It happens to the best of us

[cursive jetty]

I wonder how they'll handle tool upgrades since they ditched the idea for hollow knight back then (I think because of limited time)

[glossy gazelle]

Alpha means that a game it’s in idea phase, meaning stuff will still be added, it isn’t polished in the slightest, not everything is planned out, it’s pretty early game dev stuff

[pallid flare]

the alpha phase is the first, almost like a draft

[glossy gazelle]

Yeah that’s the best comparison

[tall hinge]

[tall hinge]

so yeah i still stand by my comment

[sage berry]

Don't alpha and beta only refer to releases?

[glossy gazelle]

Beta is essentially like a first draft of a essay, everything is finished but it needs improvement

[winter cypress]

i think they're probably in mid beta rn

[sage berry]

not sure it if even applies here

[glossy gazelle]

It can be but isn’t always

[cerulean sable]

you know we went out today and usually when i go to uni i always pass by this building (its apparently a funeral thingy and its sat on top of the skyway so it gets highlighted with how taller it is than the rest of the buildings around it)

but we went to a hospital recently and this is the ONLY building that i could see from the distance, it reminded me of Dark Souls 3 where you could see areas you will visit/have visited later from one of the bridges

then i said "hey maybe Silksong would be cool if they had-" then i fucking remembered thats not gonna happen because of the 2d nature of the game unless they do some z level fuckery like Blasphemous 😔

[tall hinge]

i think theyre more like development stages

[haughty brook]

Remember that in HK we only "realistically" explore a portion of the City of Tears and didn't went through every possible building.

[cerulean sable]

yeah, were stuck in our Z level hell\

unlike Cornifier

motherfucker can traverse another plane like a true god

[buoyant osprey]

tbh i think ss is releasing a ways off, maybe 2024. They showed the trailer early because they had to; before that, it was just known to be a dlc, so they needed to go "hey guys its actually a whole new game" so people didnt go "wtf why is dlc taking 5 years"

[cerulean sable]

2022 take it or leave it

[sage berry]

no I mean, don't alpha and beta refer to fixed versions of the game? and as far as we know the trailer might've literally just been TC running what they had
like alpha and beta don't have specific definitions, they only make sense when contrasted with each other or the final release

[haughty brook]

I say late 2021, early 2022.

[glossy gazelle]

I’m with TTaco

[noble patrol]

2222

Not 2021

[tall hinge]

2024? my god that would be like 7 years? i suppose if they really need to they can take that much time

[glossy gazelle]

I doubt it will take 7 years

[cursive jetty]

At least we'll have elden ring to fill that void

[cerulean sable]

my original optimistic side would say "2021 DEC SHADOW DROP" but i am wiser now to show my fellow silk bitches
and has now moved it to a more realistic, and natural 2022 Feb shadow drop

[tall hinge]

this is from wikipedia so take it as you will (ignore code freeze)

[manic current]

They started development in 2017, Silksong isn’t going to take 8 years to make when Hollow Knight took 3. Especially when they can reuse assets. Ik you’re just saying a day that’s super far off so you can be pleasantly surprised when it obviously comes out before but still

[buoyant osprey]

i would be so happy if it was 2021 lol

[tall hinge]

https://strawpoll.com/kxqz1ex7s/ vote now!

[manic current]

7 years sorry*

[cerulean sable]

my safest feeling is if at least has 4 years of DEV to match HK

[glossy gazelle]

Yeah I was gonna say HK took 4 years right?

[cerulean sable]

yes yes i know, theyre better at their shit now and they dont have to move to another engine, thats just where my safe time zone idea comes from regardless

[tall hinge]

yeah theyll pass 4 years of development soon right?

[cerulean sable]

its currently 3.5 years atm i think

[glossy gazelle]

And they know how the engine works now, and they have prior experience, so I probably shouldn’t take that much longer than the development of HK

[cerulean sable]

or 3.0

[sage berry]

ok ye so it doesn't make any sense to say that was an alpha or a beta because wikipedia defines it in the context of a release

[glossy gazelle]

3.5 I believe

[tall hinge]

understood

[cursive jetty]

Don't forget to add the dlc when counting hk dev time!

[glossy gazelle]

Also imagine using Wikipedia as an accurate citation lol

[buoyant osprey]

didnt they start dev on it before hk was done in 2017

so ye probs closer to 3.5

[glossy gazelle]

So Early Spring 2022, is a reasonable time honestly

[haughty brook]

I think they set up some animations before the release of HK but only began to put the first pieces after the release of the game.

[placid glacier]

Silksong is gonna be garbage anyway

[cerulean sable]

so true

[cursive jetty]

Sometimes I wonder how ss would be like if it was a dlc

[brittle garnet]

they will not reuse assets though, with very few exceptions

[buoyant osprey]

👁‍🗨 👄 👁‍🗨

[haughty brook]

Silksong is going to be bad because it doesn't have big celebrity Wholesome Keanus Chungus voicing an NPC that is in Hornet's head all the time.

[cursive jetty]

Maybe there was only steel assassin sharpe and Lace as bosses

[tall hinge]

true

[winter cypress]

they also will probably take less time programming enemies as they've said they have a large repository of code from the first game

[brittle garnet]

I think they only reused a couple of assets from the FoB that was supposed to be in HK, but even then not a lot of them

[glossy gazelle]

Yeah I definitely remember them mentioning this somewhere

[coarse leaf]

Cuphead’s dlc is like “👀”

[winter cypress]

it was in edge im pretty sure

[glossy gazelle]

Well that got interrupted by Covid

[cerulean sable]

ARACHNID ASSAULT DLC - 9.99$
Features

• exclusive Crest of the Asshole that gives you a whopping 9 red tool slot on the get go
• self detonating straight pin upgrade
• "Armored Hornet" legendary skin pack
• 5 legendary lootbox (guaranteed legendary)
• 400 Starter Shards
• 1000 Starting Rosaries

[buoyant osprey]

LOL

[tall hinge]

pay to win

[buoyant osprey]

ayo???

[winter cypress]

silksong battle pass lmao

[glossy gazelle]

And to be fair about the Cuphead DLC we haven’t known about it nearly as long as the Hornet DLC

[coarse leaf]

Yeah if it releases next year it would mean the dlc was worked on like 5 years I think. Assuming it was planned right after release

[nimble pebble]

Cuphead DLC didn't need to be announced for Studio MDHR to keep interest of the fans SS did

[buoyant osprey]

^

[coarse leaf]

^

[livid spear]

i dont want to read ss 2024 anymore

it hurts

[coarse leaf]

Yeah I don’t think it’s gonna be that late

[viral pivot]

what about ss 2023

[glossy gazelle]

Isn’t the Cuphead fanbase notably smaller than the SS fanbase? That’s probably why Cuphead didn’t exactly need this whereas SS did

[coarse leaf]

I’m thinking 2022-2023

[viral pivot]

same

[livid spear]

i will be like 19 i will have a job and i dont want that

[buoyant osprey]

tbh i think ive just put it in a mental space where its like "hmm its 202x? that means its not coming out this year"

[coarse leaf]

If ss came out in 2024 I would be graduating high school

[buoyant osprey]

i cant comprehend ss releasing soon

[viral pivot]

Im hesistant to say "silksong early 2022" given the lack of news, maybe like summer or winter or smth

[livid spear]

i will keep re-watching the trailer everyday even if it is bad for me

[viral pivot]

maybe

[balmy carbon]

i'd say mid-2022

[coarse leaf]

Maybe ss early 2023

[viral pivot]

yeah

[coarse leaf]

That seems very likely

[chilly nexus]

August 2022

[coarse leaf]

Perhaps

[glossy gazelle]

I do think the only “news” they’ll actually give us from here is a release date

[livid spear]

andddd i will keep saying "maybe this month" everytime a month begins

[signal crag]

Lack of news doesn’t mean a lot when talking about TC

[coarse leaf]

Lol that could be bad for you

[livid spear]

i think it's imposible to dont have news before this year ends, not a release date but news? it's gonna hapoen

[livid spear]

it's a joke, i dont really do that

[buoyant osprey]

if they release any news at all then some dipshits scream about how its not enough (like with riddles) and if they dont release any news at all then some people gaslight themselves into believing news is coming on x date (holiday last year) so tc cant win

[coarse leaf]

Ofc, ofc

[coarse leaf]

They can win. Actually releasing it

But that’s never gonna happen

[buoyant osprey]

nu uh, were gonna see a special breed of people that go "theres not enough content for the amount of time we waited"

[coarse leaf]

Bruh

[buoyant osprey]

they actually cant win lol

at least that group is just the vocal minority

[coarse leaf]

Here’s a win. Go back in time and never announce ss as dlc or a sequel

[signal crag]

Doesn’t that happen with most games with long development time?

[glossy gazelle]

Yes

[signal crag]

Not a win, no.

[buoyant osprey]

its particularly worse for ss for some reason

[livid spear]

yeah but that's something that tc nows, everybody nows

[signal crag]

“Why is DLC taking so long??”

[livid spear]

because that happens all the time, there is always people like that

[signal crag]

Oh wait, didn’t read that right

[coarse leaf]

For team cherry yes, because it was never announced and godhome was the last dlc and everyone enjoyed hk for what it is

[signal crag]

You mean, the whole hornet adventure was never announced or planned to begin with?

[pallid flare]

they promised the hornet dlc

it was a stretch goal, no?

[signal crag]

Yeah

[coarse leaf]

Yes. There was never a second character announced in the stretch goal

[glossy gazelle]

Games with long dev times (or games doing through dev hell) have a tendency of building up unrealistic expectations

[buoyant osprey]

i hope we get another playable char besides hornet in ss

[signal crag]

That’s what everyone assumed was going to happen regarding HK’s future

[glossy gazelle]

It’s just how humans are

[coarse leaf]

Wdym

[livid spear]

im fine with just hornet, i wanna see that dress animation

[glossy gazelle]

The longer something takes, the more we expect out of it

[signal crag]

Hornet’s adventure being a DLC, that’s what we believed before the trailer for SS was out

[glossy gazelle]

Sometimes those expectations are met, and sometimes they aren’t

[coarse leaf]

Yeah I’m saying what if there was never a second playable character to be added. What if the whole time they told us that godhome was the last dlc and nothing else.

[signal crag]

Mhm...

[glossy gazelle]

I think I would be fine if this was the end honestly

[coarse leaf]

Then team cherry wouldn’t have had to worry about people expecting too much from ss, because ss would’ve never existed

[coarse leaf]

Same! Godhome being the end of hk would’ve been a possible win for tc. Then maybe many years later down the line, hk 2 is announced and released one year later. Boom, win for tc

[signal crag]

And then announcing SS when it was only a few months from being complete?

[buoyant osprey]

reason i think we might get another playable char is bc it was one of the stretch goals and theyve been known to add goals that werent ever reached (so it just depends on if they feel like it)

[coarse leaf]

Exactly! So there is a scenario where tc could’ve won

[signal crag]

Nah, not really

[glossy gazelle]

That would stop every indie world live chat from being actual cancer.

[signal crag]

The colosseum goal was reached by donations i believe

[signal crag]

That’s for sure
Almost a win for the case

[coarse leaf]

Yes

[signal crag]

Best case would be fans simply behave, but apparently that doesn’t seem possible

[buoyant osprey]

my point still stands: theyll add it if they feel like it

[livid spear]

when does the gamescom start today?

[coarse leaf]

Not gonna happen with any fan base. There’s always at least one

[coarse leaf]

So in conclusion, our debate has concluded that there is a way that tc can win. It just involves time travel 🧐🤓

[livid spear]

ye

they will win anyway, i dont know what are y'all talking about

[coarse leaf]

True, true

[cursive jetty]

Honestly I love that TC doesn't engage with the fandom often, it's probably better this way for their mental health and motivation

[livid spear]

yes

imagine having to deal with that much people, begin for you to say something

sometimes it makes me feel bad about myself

i think use "begin" bad

[coarse leaf]

Yeah maybe add another g

[cursive jetty]

It can be pretty stressful, thankfully TC know how to take care of themselves

[livid spear]

sorry

[coarse leaf]

No you’re fine lol. Just trying to help

[livid spear]

:)

i started learning english 3 years ago

[coarse leaf]

That’s awesome! Learning another language is hard. My native language is Spanish :)

[mortal grove]

beging

[livid spear]

mine too

[nimble pebble]

My native Language is English but I know French and I'm trying to learn Spanish

[coarse leaf]

Cool

[nimble pebble]

Well technically I was raised Bilingual

[errant pulsar]

i've recently started learning french

[nimble pebble]

Which dialect

[trim estuary]

The greenish blue one I’ll bet

[obsidian juniper]

Mine too
Theres a bunch of spanish people here i think

[coarse leaf]

Interesting

[obsidian juniper]

Oooh,where did you learned french?

[pallid flare]

probably school or something

[nimble pebble]

I live in a French province, I learned it from my parents, family and daycare

[obsidian juniper]

I see,where are you from?i dont remember

[nimble pebble]

Quebec

[obsidian juniper]

Aaaaah yeah,i thought that you were from the united states

[nimble pebble]

I do speak some Parisian though

[nimble pebble]

[obsidian juniper]

Tbh i would like to live in Canadá when i grow up,i heard Is a really nice place

[buoyant osprey]

lol i guess so!

[nimble pebble]

Why'd you put an accent

[coarse leaf]

It was a very fun debate :)

[obsidian juniper]

Auto translator from spanish
I forget to take the accents out

[buoyant osprey]

yee

[nimble pebble]

Does Canada have an accent on the A in Spanish? cause in French it's still Canada

[orchid rune]

It also has one in Portuguese

[obsidian juniper]

Yeah

I never pay attention to accents tbh
I should pay More attention to that

[nimble pebble]

Though it's not pronounced the same

[trim estuary]

Does Canada even exist?

Got it

[coarse leaf]

No it was just invented as a sick joke

[obsidian juniper]

Have you ever seen canada and usa in the same room?

[stark prism]

Nah thats just some Polish wheat field territory
you probably shouldnt worry about it

[trim estuary]

No

[nimble pebble]

Accents are for pronunciation you know with the Long and short sounding vowels and all that

If you speak a Latin Language you get it

[obsidian juniper]

Yeah i know i just never pay attention to it

[coarse leaf]

Mhm

[trim estuary]

What if you just speak Latin

[coarse leaf]

Accents can be inconsistent though

[nimble pebble]

Long and short sounding vowels helped me pronounce things in English better too

[coarse leaf]

And sometimes when you think there should be an accent, there isnt

[obsidian juniper]

I should start to use accents because i want to be a translator and i Will need to learn it at some point

[green kraken]

hello people :d

[coarse leaf]

Hello

[obsidian juniper]

Hi

[nimble pebble]

Because the difference Between Oss and Os is very different but man do I see people use the Oss sound for the end of words that end like that instead of os when it's spelt like os it amazes me that English people can get by with one Language

[nimble pebble]

Of which language though, I feel French is pretty consistent

[coarse leaf]

Spanish. For the most part consistent, but sometimes it’s just kinda wack

iykyk

[obsidian juniper]

What Is that supposed to be?

[nimble pebble]

I feel that's just how Language is

[coarse leaf]

“If you know you know”

[nimble pebble]

[green kraken]

he thought it was a spanish word

[coarse leaf]

Yes very

[tall hinge]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CYPHRUS

[obsidian juniper]

I see

[trim estuary]

Wait is it birthday time for the pillow?

[tall hinge]

i think so?

[nimble pebble]

It's tomorrow

[tall hinge]

[coarse leaf]

Happy early birthday

[zenith arch]

So i noticed that people were talking about sly impressions earlier

[obsidian juniper]

The iykyk?i realised it was a english abreviature but didnt know what

[tall hinge]

timezones am i right

[zenith arch]

Can I send mine?

[tall hinge]

its your birthday somewhere!

[obsidian juniper]

F for pitta

[nimble pebble]

It's ok you can look forward to my birthday tomorrow instead of no news at indie gamescom

[tall hinge]

true

[coarse leaf]

true

[opal lintel]

a cool game called webbed is coming out sept 9

[nimble pebble]

Noël is the most common word I can think of off the top of my head that's accented

[coarse leaf]

Sure

[coarse leaf]

I guess I missed that

[nimble pebble]

Looks cool

[trim estuary]

Graig impression

[buoyant osprey]

oo

[cunning geode]

This for the voiceover mod auditions?

[zenith arch]

Is that a thing?

[cunning geode]

Yeup

[nimble pebble]

Remember when Graig sent a voice clip of him saying no voice to cry suffering? good times

[zenith arch]

I just always liked that line from Sly

[cunning geode]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/pa1zi5/hollow_knight_hallownest_vocalized_reveal_trailer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[tall hinge]

i am gonna spam that recording forever

[zenith arch]

Yeah, i saw that

[opal lintel]

gonna try to find some cheap great games to distract everyone from Silksong

[zenith arch]

How about that impression

[trim estuary]

Clone Drone in the Danger Zone

[coarse leaf]

Sounds good lol

[cunning geode]

epic ping my guy

[opal lintel]

day 1: death road to canada

[zenith arch]

Should've turned off

[nimble pebble]

Maybe pinging him will finally get him off League of Legends

[cunning geode]

it’s whatever, just don’t purposefully do it y’know

[zenith arch]

Oh no

Your honor

League of legends

[tall hinge]

case closed

[tardy raft]

Death

[coarse leaf]

Wait can you reply to someone and not ping them in the process?

[tall hinge]

life in exile

[zenith arch]

Yeah

[tardy raft]

haha yeah

[tall hinge]

[opal lintel]

yeah, there’s a thing that says “@ on” and you click on it

[coarse leaf]

Thank you very cool

[opal lintel]

i don’t mind getting pinged tho

[coarse leaf]

Neither do I. But some people do so I’ll just have it turned off

[tall hinge]

it resets every message so you cant really have it turned off unfortunately

[zenith arch]

Oh, interesting

[coarse leaf]

Sadge

[zenith arch]

Iconoclasts and The Messenger
You can't go wrong with those

[opal lintel]

i’ll do a daily thing where i’ll choose a game of the day and put it on a list with the rest

[trim estuary]

Clone Drone in the Danger Zone

[manic jolt]

Silksong is out

[coarse leaf]

Bruh

[tardy ore]

[manic jolt]

wait, was i sleeping during writing that?? jeezz

[tardy ore]

Is it 7018?

[opal lintel]

holy shit silksong is actually out

[tardy ore]

My god, It is actually out

[shut sun]

“Silksong is out lol”

• hornet silksong (202X)

[tardy ore]

Make that 7018

[opal lintel]

hornet’s last name is fortnite

[coarse leaf]

Dude!! I just finished my first ss play through!! -202X

[shut sun]

I forget we were in the 2020s wtf

[coarse leaf]

Lol

[tardy ore]

Imma play silksong in my PS-279

[opal lintel]

i’m gonna play it on the nintendo switch 2

[manic jolt]

Its going to be released on the day of the universal heat death, witch is in about 22 billion years

[coarse leaf]

I’m gonna play it on my Soulja boy 2.0

[opal lintel]

heat death is only 22 billion years away?

[balmy carbon]

no, it's today

[coarse leaf]

Holy crap the newest trailer just dropped!!

[manic jolt]

Yooo

yeeess it did!

[opal lintel]

holy crap new battle royale mode!!!1!!111!!!

[cunning geode]

Having fun I see

[manic jolt]

ough

[coarse leaf]

Can you believe that they actually revealed another playable character??

[manic jolt]

We just kiddin fam

[coarse leaf]

Yes very. Pls no sue

[shut sun]

Silksong will be out whenever it’s ready

[nimble pebble]

I'm going to get Silksong on the Enjoyment Network box, dw guys it's a console from the future you'll know it in time

[obsidian juniper]

Wait what
Really?

[shut sun]

What I’m waiting for is the grey prince campaign

[coarse leaf]

No it was a joke please don’t believe me

[tardy ore]

What year is it?

[nimble urchin]

e

[coarse leaf]

202X

[shut sun]

2022 - 1

[obsidian juniper]

I just got trolled xd

[open harbor]

*XXXX

[coarse leaf]

Lol 😂

[nimble pebble]

Man Champions road is epic, each room is a mini boss and it ends with a hard boss

[tardy ore]

Aight, Imma play silksong in my nintendo switch 27

[coarse leaf]

Actually sounds like a sick concept

[shut sun]

I’m a big fan of how colourful pharloom seems to be

really excited for the environments :)

[coarse leaf]

Yeah hopefully they won’t rush it

[obsidian juniper]

Yeah

[opal lintel]

what if zote comes back and he’s just an omnipresent entity

[coarse leaf]

Absolute Zote

[opal lintel]

NIGHTMARE KING ZOTE

[nimble pebble]

Well, I suppose warm colours are brighter looking than cool ones

[zenith arch]

Big if true

[obsidian juniper]

He infects the enemies and gives them daddy issues

[nimble pebble]

That sounds like every young teen

[coarse leaf]

I saw a comment in the trailer for ss and I hope it’s true. It talks about how if hallownest is a weak little creature, hopefully pharloom will be a big cornered creature

[obsidian juniper]

Nvm

[coarse leaf]

Lol

“Have 14, can confirm”

|| Never gonna give you up. ||

[opal lintel]

silksong might have areas of hallownest in it and i’m excited for that

[lavish tinsel]

hey what up

[obsidian juniper]

I thinked More like fighting with parents sometimes and stuff and then remembered that daddy issues are More heavy than that

[coarse leaf]

😔

[pallid flare]

the sky

[coarse leaf]

Yea

[coarse leaf]

My bathroom ceiling

[lavish tinsel]

man i shoulda seen that coming

[obsidian juniper]

Im allright

[nimble pebble]

Space

[obsidian juniper]

The birds

[lavish tinsel]

what have i done

[coarse leaf]

Not anymore 😈

[burnt topaz]

The birds are sleeping

[lavish tinsel]

honey, dinners ready

[opal lintel]

so the existence of gray prince zote implies the existence of gray **king **zote

[coarse leaf]

You can call it that

[coarse leaf]

😱😱😱

[coarse leaf]

The meteor that will eventually strike the planet and annihilate everything and everyone, an impending doom that is bound to happen and will be ultimately unavoidable

[pallid flare]

it actually does, wow

[burnt topaz]

I think it's more gray queen bretta

[lavish tinsel]

ok but when silksong

[obsidian juniper]

Cats be like

[sharp juniper]

[coarse leaf]

After that happens

[burnt topaz]

After the meteor, only team cherry will remain

[coarse leaf]

Silksong is destined to never happen

[opal lintel]

GRAY EMPEROR ZOTE, LORD OF WATTPAD

[pallid flare]

because silknever

[lavish tinsel]

plot twist: team cherry gave up on silksong and created the meteor to erase any fans

[burnt topaz]

Silkaftertheheatdeathoftheuniverse

[sharp juniper]

silkgone

[nimble pebble]

Next cataclysmic meteor is 300+ years and if we're still alive then, I'd like to assume we have giant blow up space rock laser

[opal lintel]

silksong was actually a side project and they’re working on optimizing hungry knight instead of silksong and that’s why it’s taking so long

[coarse leaf]

No, they didn’t want to erase regular people, only fans

[burnt topaz]

That's a little dramatic of them

[lavish tinsel]

can someone use photoshop to warp hornet onto a cornet that would be funny i think

[opal lintel]

that would be pretty funny

[lavish tinsel]

it could be an emote imagine

[nimble pebble]

You're all being pretty dramatic tbh

[burnt topaz]

Sounds a little corny to me

[cunning geode]

Impending... doom?

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-clone-wars-captain-fordo-2003clone-wars-gif-22528254

[opal lintel]

DOOM REFERENCE????1?1?1?1?111!010100101

[lavish tinsel]

me when no silksong

[coarse leaf]

Only fans joke

Very lame I agree

[coarse leaf]

Leth to all the “silksong when” and “why tc” emails and fans to defend TC HQ post E3

[signal crag]

colored

[burnt topaz]

He's doing a great job

[tired lake]

I wonder when the next news will drop

[obsidian juniper]

Hollow knight fandom when you say voidnet

[lavish tinsel]

[pallid flare]

should I add my own elderc's?

[lavish tinsel]

how are there so many elderc’s guys

[cunning geode]

Let’s not

[coarse leaf]

Thank me

[opal lintel]

tc should not give any news so it’s more exciting when it releases

[obsidian juniper]

Lets make the entire server put elder guys there /s

[coarse leaf]

Ikr

[coarse leaf]

Deleted

[tired lake]

Fair

[lavish tinsel]

1984

[obsidian juniper]

It was just a joke

[opal lintel]

1849

[coarse leaf]

Colorized

[burnt topaz]

I don't think it'd be any more or less exciting tbh

[nimble pebble]

[coarse leaf]

I know

[coarse leaf]

More if they released a new one. Showing new content is always exciting

[lavish tinsel]

imagine dio’s “oho?” rather than the sad noise elder makes when you ignore him

[opal lintel]

what if they release all the dlc with the base game

[coarse leaf]

Is ss going to have dlc??

[tall hinge]

most likely

[opal lintel]

prolly

[coarse leaf]

Not likely at all

[nimble pebble]

"Oho so you're leaving then"

[coarse leaf]

Dang that’s crazy. Dlc for a game that was supposed to be dlc? I don’t know about that

[lavish tinsel]

if it does we won’t live to see it anyway

[coarse leaf]

TC has all the time they want to add content into the game. And besides, they wanna work on other IP’s.

[burnt topaz]

I can't get all the dialogue for my elderbug speed run without leaving you

[lavish tinsel]

dlc²

[nimble pebble]

Then leave as much as you want then

[coarse leaf]

Other ip’s from team cherry? Shut up and take my money

[pallid flare]

imagine accidentally buying the dlc for the dlc and finding out that you have to buy the base game and the dlc now

[lavish tinsel]

[whispers] zoteboaatt

[coarse leaf]

Omg please

[burnt topaz]

Ugly Jesus vs mummy 2

[coarse leaf]

Quirell dlc for ss, anyone?

[nimble pebble]

Fearless Fox sounds like a Puzzle adventure or an Adventure RPG

[opal lintel]

tc is working on “hollow knight 3: disgustingly realistic insects” as we speak

[lavish tinsel]

YES

[coarse leaf]

Hk RTX mod

[lavish tinsel]

hollow knight but all the bugs are humans

[burnt topaz]

Sounds boring

I like the bug motif

[nimble pebble]

That would raise the rating to M or R

Because there'd be sooooooooooooo much blood

[coarse leaf]

Yeah it helps the game stand out more

[obsidian juniper]

And dung defender

[opal lintel]

hollow knight but every bug is now a vinegaroon

[coarse leaf]

Hollow knight but everything is primal aspid

[lavish tinsel]

yeah it would really bug me tbh

[obsidian juniper]

Aka hell

[balmy carbon]

nty.

[nimble pebble]

[opal lintel]

yeah babey!

[lavish tinsel]

hollow knight: spidsong

[balmy carbon]

that would be worse than torture

[opal lintel]

hollow knight: teeth brushing aspid noises

[balmy carbon]

the best thing about silksong is that there's most likely no more primal aspids

[opal lintel]

there’s gonna be worse enemies

[nimble pebble]

Hollow Knight: Spudsong

[lavish tinsel]

most likely

[coarse leaf]

Primal aspid 2.0

[opal lintel]

primal aspids were the tip of the iceberg

[lavish tinsel]

primal aspid but they can block

[opal lintel]

also mantis petras were worse

[coarse leaf]

Primal aspid with aimbot and shield

[lavish tinsel]

primal aspid but you can only hit them from BEHIND

[obsidian juniper]

Mini marmus

[balmy carbon]

primal aspids with machetes and miniguns

[lavish tinsel]

team cherry hire me

[opal lintel]

primal aspid but it shoots a wave of goop

[lavish tinsel]

semi auto aspid

[nimble pebble]

Primal aspids aren't the hardest enemy and it's a glorified meme if you want an actually annoying fucker then look no further than Crystal hunters and Soul twisters

[lavish tinsel]

bang and the spooder is gone

fake news i’ve died to more primal aspid than i have crystal hunters

maybe i’m just bad though

[nimble pebble]

How does one die to a Primal aspid

[coarse leaf]

Same

[burnt topaz]

There are just more primal aspids which is probably why

[lavish tinsel]

but i did path of pain so

[coarse leaf]

Three words. Colisseum of fools

[nimble pebble]

Never died to one in there

[lavish tinsel]

step one: spot primal aspid

[nimble pebble]

I don't think I've ever died to a primal aspid in fact

[coarse leaf]

You’re cool 😔

[burnt topaz]

Just use a nail art in the colosseum

[buoyant osprey]

Wow that is so cool

[lavish tinsel]

i haven’t done colo 3 guys

[balmy carbon]

final boss of hollow knight

[burnt topaz]

Dw Colo 3 can be hard

[nimble pebble]

Primal aspid is overhyped tbh, it's just got wide range so it's annoying and hard not to get hit but I'd find it pretty hard to die to it

[coarse leaf]

I struggled with it forever because of primal aspid

[lavish tinsel]

[burnt topaz]

You can outrun the aspids in majority of cases

[nimble pebble]

[burnt topaz]

Nitro supremacy

[lavish tinsel]

aspid with legs take it or leave it

[nimble pebble]

[signal crag]

just don't act dumb near those, easy

[pallid flare]

[buoyant osprey]

I will literally worship u

[coarse leaf]

Kinda agree. I feel like they’re bosses in the way that they’re annoying for a while, then once you know how to counter them they’re nothing

[lavish tinsel]

when the discriminator is #6969

[balmy carbon]

its okay until there's 3 of them and you're backed into a corner

[nimble pebble]

[obsidian juniper]

I think they just mess with your dodging because of the 3 projectiles

[lavish tinsel]

yeah

[obsidian juniper]

And they fly around so you cant kill them quick if you dont have good precition

[nimble pebble]

Not necessary simply destroy the primal aspid

[lavish tinsel]

[coarse leaf]

No. I must worship

[mystic pewter]

gamescom time

[nimble pebble]

Nay

[burnt topaz]

You are all wizards, use your spells

[nimble pebble]

Nail arts work as well they one shot primal aspids

[balmy carbon]

primal aspids but sonic

[zenith arch]

the plot thickens

[nimble pebble]

or if you have pure nail with strength

[zenith arch]

Having to face them at the Colosseum makes me want to die

[nimble pebble]

Improvise, adapt, overcome

[lavish tinsel]

aspids are pretty scary

[crude galleon]

Silksong😱

[lavish tinsel]

how to solve being killed by primal aspids: die before they kill you

[zenith arch]

Ngl it was less frustrating to die to anything else besides them

[lavish tinsel]

honestly yeah

[jade canopy]

wait a minute isn't gamescom starting like now ? shouldn't this chat be going mad ?

[balmy carbon]

nahhh

[zenith arch]

It starts in 20min? I think

[tall hinge]

yup

[balmy carbon]

idk what gamescom is

[obsidian juniper]

only if they say something about silksong

[tall hinge]

a games con

[balmy carbon]

they wont

[balmy carbon]

okay

[jade canopy]

I mean like indie world, where a billion people came here to ask if it was going to be reaveled in it

[tall hinge]

eh someone else will let me know if it appears

[zenith arch]

Here's my thought
the TC would be online here to see our reaction if Silksong was going to be showcased

[cloud summit]

there is a 100% chance of Silksong releasing today

[green kraken]

im waiting

[jade canopy]

I mean we are probably going to hear some screams on the street whenever silksong will be announced

[noble patrol]

Take away 2 zeros from the 100%

[worn mountain]

me if silksong

[zenith arch]

And subtract by 0.99