sk-discussion

[hybrid flare]

Goldmask mogs

[odd hull]

I see I see, haven't played the dlc yet

[cunning geode]

i like maliketh :]

[hybrid flare]

Yeah ||gurranq|| is cool

[night vector]

Yo what's that

[hybrid flare]

Elden ring

[odd hull]

He is in the base game?

[hybrid flare]

He has an entire ending dedicated to him

[orchid spruce]

@old compass press down + jump to jump off platforms

[odd hull]

Ooo I never found him

[hybrid flare]

Most interesting characters in elden ring aren't really interactable npcs either

[odd hull]

There's a lot of stuff I never did, actually

[hybrid flare]

There's a lot of stuff to do yeah

[orchid spruce]

lilies is entering its retrospective period

[night vector]

The only thing i know about elden ring is that ||tree sentinel||

[orchid spruce]

i don't remember much anymore except Harmonious

[hybrid flare]

like, a LOT, im still discovering new stuff each playthrough naturally

[odd hull]

I started Ranni's quests, but then school 🥀

[orchid spruce]

one day, i'll be able to play

[night vector]

Perhaps

[orchid spruce]

and join the AAAslop gang

[hybrid flare]

Towel you won't like elden ring this game has good areas

[night vector]

Good shi

[orchid spruce]

i like good areas too

[hybrid flare]

[odd hull]

Ohh, nice

[night vector]

Is ds considered AAAslop

[hybrid flare]

Was fromslopware owned by bandai before

[orchid spruce]

i would consider ds AAAslop

[odd hull]

Afaik Bandai just publishes stuff

[hybrid flare]

Yeah the publisher was bandai its AAAslop

[night vector]

Yeah bandai is big

[odd hull]

Towel will play with this mod day 1

[orchid spruce]

is that parry

[hybrid flare]

Yeah

[odd hull]

Yeah

[hybrid flare]

Shit i gotta try this

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/sport-running-running-away-gif-12080866026787605323

[cunning geode]

crush

[orchid spruce]

every good game has parry

[hybrid flare]

I mean you can naturally parry bosses in elden ring

[odd hull]

Yeah

[orchid spruce]

local, hesitation is defeat

face your foe head on and parry

[odd hull]

My favorite nine sols quote

[orchid spruce]

she's gonna suffer a lot when she reaches that boss

[night vector]

I mean yeah that was so bad

[orchid spruce]

she's avoiding parrying

[night vector]

🥚

[orchid spruce]

nine sols totally said that

[hybrid flare]

avoiding the main mechanic btw

[odd hull]

That's why Rusted Moss has parry

[cunning geode]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/849813513816113182/1064605044302954536/Final_Doomer_Weapons_Preview.gif

[night vector]

Cells btw

[odd hull]

And Ender Lilies, the goat

[orchid spruce]

?

[cunning geode]

cells?

[orchid spruce]

PARRY WHERE

[leaden delta]

Void stranger I fear

[brave geyser]

thats one big ass tree

[old compass]

I'M ADJUSTING

[night vector]

Balls

[cunning geode]

go on

[crimson widget]

Dead cells

[orchid spruce]

I parried a lot in Ender Lilies

[brave geyser]

how do we feel about this big ass tree

[hybrid flare]

bloodborne has a parry

[orchid spruce]

It's supposed to be dodge iframes slop but I turned it into parryslop

[old compass]

very cool

[hybrid flare]

A parry that actually punishes you if you miss it because theres no 2nd hp bar

[brave geyser]

yay

[orchid spruce]

Well, I played Lilies

I think Lilies' parry is quite tight and you're punished for missing

But I parried pretty much everything

[hybrid flare]

good parries don't have posture bars 🗣️

[orchid spruce]

i don't understand the reference, haven't played peakiro

[cunning geode]

ah like third strike

[brave geyser]

the evil ass castle,,,

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/parry-3rd-strike-evo-moment-38-hayao-evo-2024-gif-7565495220294121790

[night vector]

Sweet

[hybrid flare]

Peakiro has a posture bar

[orchid spruce]

i know

[brave geyser]

the evil ass robot

[cunning geode]

HAL

[hybrid flare]

the only good parry ever is ultrakill's 🤤

[orchid spruce]

i'll try running peakiro

[hybrid flare]

its very well optimized

[brave geyser]

the worst parry ever is hollow knight

[orchid spruce]

50% chance my laptop explodes, the 50% i get to play peak

[hybrid flare]

shit isnt even a parry in the traditional sense

[cunning geode]

hollow knight's parry is like a clash but you can win the clash if you hit deep enough

[brave geyser]

do you call it a counterattack then

[night vector]

Well it will perhaps run better than elden ring ig

[odd hull]

After beating the game once, you unlock Maya — she uses a sword, has granades and techniques instead of weapons, and can parry instead of healing.

[cunning geode]

tf2 pyro almost has a full parry too

[orchid spruce]

[cunning geode]

just doesnt work on everything

[hybrid flare]

It does

Sekiro's optimization is absolutely incredible

It looks beautiful and it runs smooth

[orchid spruce]

The second issue that arises if I can run it is motion sickness

[hybrid flare]

3d games cause motion sickness? 💔

Towel now that i think about it

[leaden delta]

they can yes

[old raft]

dude i made to last wave of craw arena
and it spawned the big flying guy in bilewater and second sentinal 😭

[hybrid flare]

your pc can run ultrakill

but if you get motion sickness that game would prob kill you

[barren dew]

Hi

[brave geyser]

hi bon

[barren dew]

Hi ji

[odd hull]

Heloo

[cunning geode]

Dusk letting the player spin their POV all 360 degrees up and down

[barren dew]

Why is there an evil version of me

[odd hull]

Trueeee

[barren dew]

Hellooooo

[brave geyser]

because you let your evil side win

[barren dew]

True

[old raft]

NIGHTMARE

[orchid spruce]

i get motion sickness from minecraft

idk why i suddenly develop it, i had no issue before

🤢

[brave geyser]

and void

[cunning geode]

there are probably resources online that could help with that? like a guide for games that might be problematic for motion sickness

or better yet, mods that help alleviate those problems

https://educationgames.opened.ca/2020/10/04/a-minecraft-post-for-people-sensitive-to-motion-sickness/ this could help?

[old raft]

I DID IT

[orchid spruce]

idk, i'm not playing minecraft anymore anw

[old raft]

it spawn a pack of enemy but there is a bomb guy

[orchid spruce]

maybe it's the screenshake

[old raft]

i saw an void

[orchid spruce]

i'll look into it if i can run sekiro

[old raft]

but its gone after that bomb guy blow up

[cunning geode]

yeah the head bobbing can be disabled

[orchid spruce]

i'm guessing the issue is that yeah

[brave geyser]

hey local

[odd hull]

Rusted Moss

Rusted Moss is so goated it has 3 playable characters

[old compass]

yes? (If you're asking why I'm leaving I need to cook dinner)

[brave geyser]

yo mama

[hybrid flare]

Yeah mate you're going to explode

[orchid spruce]

🙁

[hybrid flare]

Or maybe because mc is slop...

[orchid spruce]

i have to sit through so much to reach the good part tho

im not gonna lie, i did try sekiro

[hybrid flare]

When

[orchid spruce]

my laptop can run it but it was a while back when it was running better

[hybrid flare]

Do you know why or how was it running better?

[orchid spruce]

i got motion sickness and the first miniboss had a popup to explain the moves but i forgot and cant find it again

[orchid spruce]

device gets worse over time

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694394891584667683/1365845428305793084/IMG_20250415_131019.gif

[hybrid flare]

Ahh poor thing

[odd hull]

Rusted Moss. I love some bunnyhop

[orchid spruce]

why does sekiro explain 3 moves to you at a time with a closeable never-to-be-seen again popup

AAAslop!!

[hybrid flare]

They're as simple as breathing

A newborn could understand sekiro's mechanics

Using them is a different story ofc

[orchid spruce]

the thing is

i only skimmed it and accidentally closed it

[hybrid flare]

Iirc you can actually revisit them in the settings

[orchid spruce]

couldn't find it for the life of me back then

[hybrid flare]

dont remember quite

[odd hull]

There's a second tutorial you can access, anyways

[civic island]

Watch a youtube tutorial

[orchid spruce]

i'd rather have random checkpoints where i randomly get an ability and a tutorial

[civic island]

Ahhh

Ol silksong

[orchid spruce]

not silksong

silksong is actually good, unlike this AAAslop named Nine Sols

[odd hull]

Metroidvaniaslop

[orchid spruce]

trueee

sekiro is lighter than poptlc

poptlc was like 25GB

please let me fight peakshin

[hybrid flare]

Nine sols is good but random as hell

[hybrid flare]

But my fav ability acquisition is hk

[old compass]

ok so why is that only 0.1% of players defeated the first nine sols boss, I'm 100% sure it's my steam viewing it wrong

[hybrid flare]

every ability has an original source

[orchid spruce]

HK ability acquisition is the best of the ones I've played, I think?

[hybrid flare]

its ubislop

[fallow sorrel]

Hes js that hard

[exotic cedar]

nine sols get called a metroidvania and yet it doesnt have much exploring.... slop game..,

[orchid spruce]

Yeah, HK has the best ability acquisition

Second is Ender Lilies

The others are kinda random

[fallow sorrel]

I need to plsy ender lilies

[oblique tapir]

hk is literally goodslop 🙄

[odd hull]

Nine Sols gets called a metroidvania and yet I don't defeat metroids or explore Transylvania.....

[old compass]

hk is literally bug propaganda

[orchid spruce]

you only like hk because it's good smh

[shell jungle]

Pale king propaganda

[oblique tapir]

i wonder if silksong collector's edition will ever be a thing...

[cerulean sable]

probs once all the DLC is out

HK CE only came around 2019 iirc

[shell jungle]

Silksong: Silkheart edition

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-2-master-chief-xbox-2004-bungie-gif-14917983978846901090

[cerulean sable]

TERWYYUREIEI

[exotic cedar]

im the person who made the fleas get lost

[hybrid flare]

silksong's ability acquisiton makes sense but it's less varied than hk

I mean depends on the ability

Faydown is likely my favourite out of every game

[orchid spruce]

I think it's mostly random as hell

Faydown and silksoar are cool

[hybrid flare]

No it makes sense and you can see when you get em, but not much variety

Oh and also drifter's is different

[exotic dome]

i dont like silksoar

[cunning geode]

yeh the way you get double jump in silksong is very cool, the whole area leads up to it and then your reward lets you explore it much more freely

[hybrid flare]

Silksoar doesn't have much use in combat unfortunately

[orchid spruce]

I just mean where you get silksoar

[exotic dome]

drifters is cool but locked behind a boring fetch quest soo

[cerulean sable]

i personally think the "mandatory" ability like before the game diverged shouldve been Clawline

[lavish apex]

mount fay is so awesome

[exotic dome]

oh yeah that is nice

[hybrid flare]

Its not even that bad and these quests intice exploration

[orchid spruce]

Mount Fay is like good but still a disappointment

[cerulean sable]

like Widow shouldve had Clawline maybe

[hybrid flare]

I liked mt fay

[orchid spruce]

Mount Fay could've had amazing map design

I remember jumping from Mount Fay to the prison, trying to find secrets and there's like actually no secret

[lavish apex]

it has fine map design for a platforming challenge area

[orchid spruce]

I was a bit disappointed

[exotic dome]

i usually reload the same room to get those or don't care about it and complete as i explore

[cerulean sable]

trust in the Mt Fay expansion DLC

[odd hull]

Yeah, it's pretty good

[orchid spruce]

And the slope on the left had nothing of substance

[cerulean sable]

they should expand the west side of the map

[orchid spruce]

Surely, Mt Fay DLC will fix it

[exotic dome]

mt fay is visually peak

[orchid spruce]

precious slopes also

recipe to good map design is slopes, mio proved this

[thorn oar]

And peak gameplay wise imo

[exotic cedar]

mt fay was cool

[hybrid flare]

Oh widow is cool aswell

[hybrid flare]

That's on you ig but yeah it's still a fetch quest

[lavish apex]

mount fay is probably my favorite part of skong

[hybrid flare]

Not even a very fun enemy to fight

[lavish apex]

other than maybe like karmelita

[cerulean sable]

i do wish the ambience was a bit more pronounce for Mt Fay maybe unpopular

[hybrid flare]

its clawlinemaxxing which is good

[cerulean sable]

like i was hoping more sweeping violin ambience

[orchid spruce]

my favourite map design is probably shellwood

[hybrid flare]

I wish karak connected to mt.fay

[odd hull]

really??

[orchid spruce]

[hybrid flare]

shellwood is peak lwk

[orchid spruce]

wdym really, it has the best map design in silksong

[lavish apex]

this would have been cool

[exotic dome]

it would connect if karak was in its glory

[odd hull]

I don't like shellwood

[cerulean sable]

not exactly like this but you know somewhat a similar vibe
https://open.spotify.com/track/5fVbe5tOT0RXnoiuktjFUW?si=b72e7155bc564d23

[orchid spruce]

maybe you don't like the area but gotta appreciate the map design

[cerulean sable]

now, sea of sorrow ambience...
https://open.spotify.com/track/5J3ysiPFsOyfa00oGN3bbI?si=fd7f378d98fb40e0

[orchid spruce]

i can't think of an area with better map design than shellwood in sk, at least rn

[cerulean sable]

i kinda ilked Citadel proper

probably closed 2nd maybe

[orchid spruce]

Citadel is big

[odd hull]

Ehh..

[exotic dome]

choral chambers, bilewater, also deep docks maybe

[hybrid flare]

Ye but an established connection would explain the gorge's origin and mt fay's place in the kingdom

[exotic dome]

shellwood is good

[cerulean sable]

they should connect bellhart with bonebottom

[odd hull]

Shellwood is bad

[hybrid flare]

chambers mogs

[cerulean sable]

(no wait they already do just that it goes to the Marrows)

[hybrid flare]

Chambers is like the best area ever, it has everything i like

[exotic dome]

yeah

[orchid spruce]

Choral Chambers would be good if they didn't spam the column-branches formula so much before and after

[cunning geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLIdiAkBOE4 hornet should hear this upon entering the abyss, thinking its silent at first

the intro to this makes my smile grow sussier and sussier

[orchid spruce]

It makes the design unimpressive

Though it's still a good area

[hybrid flare]

Fair enough but it's varied enough as every one of those has their lil rooms and gimmicks

[orchid spruce]

But map design?

[hybrid flare]

yeah you can go anywhere in chambers also quite open

[exotic dome]

what is column branches formula

[orchid spruce]

One big column, branches on the sides

It's literally everywhere

[exotic dome]

yeah i see

yea fair

[orchid spruce]

But the wheel part of chambers is nice

The symmetry is cool

[exotic dome]

i think it's columngem tho

[odd hull]

Wheel?

[cerulean sable]

and when she drops into the Lost Lace arena, it turns into a 1st person and Hornet must constantly circlestrafe Lost Lace while unloading her entire arsennal like the BFS (Big Fucking Song)

[exotic dome]

the corridor you control wtih the lever

[orchid spruce]

The wheel on the upper right side

[orchid spruce]

If it didn't have this wheel, I'll call this area's map bad

But it has wheel, so gud

[hybrid flare]

Iirc chambers is the inversed formula cuz its mainly long hallways

[cerulean sable]

also i gen hope SoS just isnt an area expansion to the east, like i kinda wanna see them flesh out more of the existing map

surely surely

Phantoms of Pharloom yada yada DLC 2 yada yada go back in the past yada Karak yada etc

[hybrid flare]

The formula works well enough though, even if its like hk's main way to make maps

[orchid spruce]

I mean, the branches connect from both sides, so I guess that's a change

[exotic dome]

true

[hybrid flare]

Unlike mio's find little crack in the wall in a tetrahedron shaped tube

[orchid spruce]

I don't remember HK's map tbf so can't comment

[exotic dome]

column branches are better than long empty hallways

[exotic dome]

(looking at you ducts)

[orchid spruce]

The thing about this formula is that it makes the map easy to remember, so a pro here I guess

[cerulean sable]

overhaul ducts ong

[orchid spruce]

But kinda unimpressive design for a first playthrough

[exotic dome]

just halve it make it a subarea smh

[hybrid flare]

I mean if you really like staring at maps and how they're shaped instead of what the actual level has to offer then idk what to tell you

[orchid spruce]

nothingburger ducts 💔

[orchid spruce]

they really just play like column-with-branches in those column-with-branches rooms

climb up, go into one branch, exit, go to another branch

[hybrid flare]

not always the maps account for the little deviations there usually are

[cerulean sable]

AND IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EYESSSSS

DOES IT ALWAYS FEEL LIKE NOTHINGS CHANGED AT ALLLL

[hybrid flare]

chambers has a lot of those

[orchid spruce]

sure, unimpressive nevertheless

[old raft]

guys do you think if he is ok

[orchid spruce]

it's fine, that's honestly a pretty tiny complaint that only arose after i play MIO

[ornate latch]

if they made ducts into a subarea might aswell keep the stilkin enemies they should put the flea camp somewhere else

[orchid spruce]

i didn't mind it when i first played

but looking back, i think it was overused

[old raft]

study makes you floating

[odd hull]

This enemy is so cute

I love their design

[old raft]

ye they are so lcoked in the book

[orchid spruce]

that enemy has lots of details iirc

it like looks at the map with its small friend or something

[odd hull]

mhm

Yep

[orchid spruce]

or book

[old raft]

ye the lantern guy

[worn sapphire]

How did you get a flea companion? It is a mod?

[ornate latch]

custom hornet mod iirc

[old raft]

ye it is and you just said the name lol

[odd hull]

The area is kinda dark, so some help is needed yk

[orchid spruce]

i don't appreciate it

don't throw lamp at me

[old raft]

you can hit the lamp

[orchid spruce]

i know

[old raft]

and it blows up on you

lol

[orchid spruce]

i'm number 1 silksong fan

i know 95% things about the game

[ornate latch]

dude launches a dead pilgrim at you

[lavish stratus]

Traitor

[orchid spruce]

the other 5% being the speedrun and all that

[orchid spruce]

i saw the light and realized how peak silksong is

10/10

[lavish stratus]

You're dead to me.

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-bite-biting-gif-14228286

[exotic dome]

do i almost feel fear

[odd hull]

More like uhhh 1/1

[lavish stratus]

That would be the same thing.

[orchid spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1502723934263574671/1506219397360914533/togif.gif

[odd hull]

[orchid spruce]

resisting the urge to add even more games into my backlog

[odd hull]

Nooooo

[odd hull]

Like what?

[orchid spruce]

iconoclasts

solateria

(solateria is a parry game )

[odd hull]

A

That explains it

[orchid spruce]

it looks really cute too

iconoclasts has beautiful pixel graphics

i asked around but no one knew if it had the true save system so idk whether to buy

those pixel graphics games tend to have that

[odd hull]

The MC is so tiny

Have you played the demo? (Solateria)

[orchid spruce]

its graphics is like ori in a way but less blurry

[raw pawn]

oh what

[orchid spruce]

i didn't know it has a demo, i'll try it out

[supple reef]

ew

[raw pawn]

so can I get silksong for free with nitro

[orchid spruce]

will try

or not, tbh. i trust the game is very good.

i think i'll love this game

[sonic trench]

genuenly moorwing fight sucks

the audio cues are nonexistent

[orchid spruce]

moorwing is good

[sonic trench]

the arena is weird

[orchid spruce]

[odd hull]

He is good

[supple reef]

moorwing is pog

[sonic trench]

sometimes it just flies above me for no reason

[raw pawn]

morewings

[odd hull]

That's some high expectations

[sonic trench]

i 100% the game with half the mementos and this boss fight is just plain unfun for me

i found BEASTFLY more fun than this

[supple reef]

it all depends on your positioning if you are close it will do the claw attack if you are a bit further then the flight

[orchid spruce]

I knew I'll love ender lilies too

It's the gamer's sixth sense

[sonic trench]

when i get far away from moorwing it does no audio cues and flies right into me like a missile

[raw pawn]

no 😭

don't compare moorwing with beastfly

lmao

[sonic trench]

trash vs garbage

[supple reef]

beastfly isn't bad if you come to it in act 2 with like double jump or circlet

[orchid spruce]

moorwing's only real flaw is how he floats around unpredictably, it's just a good fight

you just gotta learn it

[iron basin]

Beastfly is just generally easy and moorwing got nerfed into the ground

[sonic trench]

well im fighting moorwing with 5 masks and hunters crest

[orchid spruce]

most people do that

[sonic trench]

no upgrades at all cause im doing 5hr speedrun

[iron basin]

That's one of the best in the game

[supple reef]

you can just skip it you know

if you don't want to fight it

[iron basin]

Speed runners only use hunters crest 🤯

[sonic trench]

via flea caravan i know

[orchid spruce]

it will always fly to you to close the gap when it's offscreen

[sonic trench]

but im on a time limit

its ASS it should at least do a sound when its near

[iron basin]

So? All the fleas are easy to find

[supple reef]

100 percent or speed run?

[odd hull]

Try not going far away from him

[iron basin]

Nahhhhhhhh

[sonic trench]

5hr speedrun

[supple reef]

just skip it

[orchid spruce]

what mark are you at rn

[iron basin]

Don't talk about speedruns if you complain about hunters 😭

[orchid spruce]

you should be able to get to citadel at 1h or 1h30m mark comfortably

[iron basin]

Yeah 👍

I can get to greymoor in around 10-15minutes depending if I am locked in

[raw pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1465991596268060746/image0.gif

[supple reef]

to me it depends if its a 100 percent run or any%

[iron basin]

Any %is a easy 2hours for me

[orchid spruce]

my any% pb was 1h52m

[iron basin]

Mostly because you use hunters crest 🤪

[orchid spruce]

hhg was very sweaty

it was a huge chokepoint

[supple reef]

i mean hunter is generally one of the best crest

[iron basin]

And then people say reapers is

[supple reef]

reaper isn't that good

[orchid spruce]

reaper is not good but it's really fun

[supple reef]

to me it feels like a noob trap

[iron basin]

Fr

[orchid spruce]

no problem having fun in a single player game

[iron basin]

It's to slow for the amount of damage you really need

[orchid spruce]

[supple reef]

i mean i am not saying you shouldn't use it i like its animations and attacks

[orchid spruce]

dash attack into pogo on reaper is really fun

[iron basin]

And wanderers

With the weighted belt to?

[supple reef]

i am not a fan of its pogo but i like the dash attack

[fading helm]

Guys were is new silk code

[supple reef]

hunter's pogo is the best tbh

[iron basin]

Fr

[orchid spruce]

i like it best too, but allegedly witch's pogo is the best

[supple reef]

true

[orchid spruce]

allegedly

[iron basin]

Beast is fun

[supple reef]

i am not good at using witch crest but its attacks and pogos are my fav

beast is my fav for bosses

[raw pawn]

It feels weird to not hear hornet every 5 seconds while playing hollow knight now

[iron basin]

Kck with beast

Good boss fight

[supple reef]

beastfly pt2 with beast

[orchid spruce]

kck?

[iron basin]

King crust khan

[raw pawn]

nyleth with shaman

[supple reef]

khann isn't even that good of a boss

[iron basin]

It's fun

[supple reef]

i like the gauntlet

[orchid spruce]

khann is a tutorial boss thrown into act 3

[iron basin]

It's easy aswell

[orchid spruce]

[supple reef]

really good design but the boss it self isn't the best

[orchid spruce]

he could've been in act 1 and no one would question it

[iron basin]

Seth is also really cool in act 3

My top 10

[orchid spruce]

he's pretty good but i didn't like his shield throw move

[supple reef]

nah the attacks are grand and cool design so act 2 would fit better if it wasn't for the coral tower

[orchid spruce]

kinda brings the fight down for me

[iron basin]

kck in memoriam

If it had to be in act 2 I'd put it there

[sonic trench]

i kinda think act 3 bosses were easy..........

i only half struggled on lost lace

[supple reef]

that would have been cool. but he is also really important to the lore so memoriam will really bring him down

[iron basin]

Have you gone to act 3 💀

You struggle with moorwing gng

[sonic trench]

YEAH CAUSE I DONT HAVE MY CRESTS TOOLS AND SHIT

😭

[iron basin]

So?

The Start of the game is always harder than the end

[sonic trench]

i like playing slow so i dont struggle with bosses when i play normally

when im on a time crunch its all high cortisol

[supple reef]

what's your usual setup

[iron basin]

Probably cog flies with reapers bro 😭 ig

[sonic trench]

either reaper, upgraded hunters crest or wanderer

[supple reef]

bruh what blue tools

[iron basin]

I'm guessing what his using or her

[sonic trench]

longclaw and volt filament

[lost raven]

aa i wish i could join the calls so i can just be vibing and playing silksong

[iron basin]

Frrr

[supple reef]

silk skill?

[iron basin]

I'm here just to get 100messages

[sonic trench]

parry one

[iron basin]

Sharp dart

[supple reef]

sharpdart hmm...

i am not a fan but its cool

[lost raven]

lol

[sonic trench]

if it didnt take so long to activate id use sharpdart more

[odd hull]

150*

[lost raven]

its 150??!!

[odd hull]

?tag permpsa

[white sail]

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[odd hull]

150 for VC, 300 for images

[lost raven]

ToT

[supple reef]

lol i didn't realise i had over a thousand messages i don't even talk here that much

[lost raven]

i have 18 guys

i fear im to far away from vc

[flat mason]

Doesn't take that long

[iron basin]

Huh

[flat mason]

Aaargh I'm starting to get MIO shorts

[iron basin]

I just beat BB in my new run

Why's it so wierd

[flat mason]

Who

[iron basin]

Bell beast

[flat mason]

Ah

[iron basin]

Took 10minutes 😭

[flat mason]

lmaoooo

[sage umbra]

it's not that bad lol

[flat mason]

Not having all your stuff right

[iron basin]

No

I'm use to it

Not the boss battle though it's wierd and funky

[flat mason]

Hmmm

[iron basin]

Pre widow warmup

[orchid spruce]

Controls always feel clunky after a while without lubrication

[iron basin]

I hate unskippable scenes

[orchid spruce]

I almost recommended nine sols

Close one

[sage umbra]

Nine souls is a great game

[iron basin]

True

[dreamy nest]

Bilewater is horrible

Lost 500 rosaries

[iron basin]

No

[orchid spruce]

True

[sage umbra]

but the music area is amazing

[iron basin]

It's easy if you memorise where every single enemy is 😊 😭

[orchid spruce]

I think it's a good area but I see why people hate it

[dreamy nest]

And those stilkins are horrid to fight

I have to spam bombs to kill them

[sage umbra]

Hahaha

[iron basin]

Don't fight them then

[orchid spruce]

Those enemies stink

[iron basin]

it's optional

Groal the great beater of runs

[sage umbra]

It can be annoying yeah

[dreamy nest]

Where even is the map for it

[iron basin]

Shakira

[dreamy nest]

After I get it, I'm outta here

[dreamy nest]

I can see her rings but nowhere to her

[orchid spruce]

Do you have double jump

[dreamy nest]

No

[orchid spruce]

Not much to do here then

[dreamy nest]

If I need double jump, them I'm cooked

[orchid spruce]

[dreamy nest]

I see

[lone escarp]

in a very shitty spot, you'll probably have to go through most of the area

[iron basin]

I guess

[dreamy nest]

Tbh half of my frustration is with the fact that I tried to go through bilewater with beast crest

I can handle the down slash, no healing without enemies is what gets to me

[light wolf]

Does anybody know how I can open that closed gate near pilgrims rest?

[iron basin]

Restore to last save point

[lone escarp]

my first (and only) playthrough of silksong was so shit. i chose the worst routes, as in the funny items were picked up last, that's the one thing that sucks about games like this

[iron basin]

Is a thing

[dreamy nest]

Can I like aggro one of those squits and pogo off them

[orchid spruce]

i think silksong's first playthrough is pretty bad, like 6/10 if you don't ride the hype to get you through

but it improves a lot in a second playthrough

[dreamy nest]

It's my first play through and I'm having a lot of fun

It already feels better than HK

[orchid spruce]

that's great to hear

[lone escarp]

yeah, but by then you've already seen it

[dreamy nest]

Especially the Aerial combat options

Only hiccups is some of the annoying enemy designs (stilkins, respawning squits)

[lavish stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[orchid spruce]

overall, it has good mechanics. its exploration and story is its weakness which becomes irrelevant in a replaythrough

[dreamy nest]

You have one move you can do in the air in HK

[lone escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-punch-markiplier-gif-3555267379155559269

[light wolf]

?

[dreamy nest]

And meta was just abusing desolate dive iframes

[orchid spruce]

in a second playthrough, the mechanics have room to shine because 1. you improved 2. the other aspects (exploration/story) become irrelevant

[lavish stratus]

Cross Stitch.

[iron basin]

This meta is thread storm

[lone escarp]

but i don't want a second playthrough, because i've already seen everything

[iron basin]

It's still good after the nerds believe it or not

[lavish stratus]

Red Tool spam.

[lone escarp]

that's what sucks

[orchid spruce]

that's understandable

[iron basin]

Nerfs

[lone escarp]

and honestly, the mechanics were disappointing too

[dreamy nest]

Idk I think exploration is one of SKs biggest strengths

[iron basin]

I just got swift step

20minutes in my run

[orchid spruce]

i think it is its biggest weakness

[flat mason]

You need to go over it, and open from the other side

[lavish stratus]

Shell Shards.

[dreamy nest]

Running into something unexpected almost always yields some rewards il

[light wolf]

How good is cross stitch actually? I heard about it but I don't remember what it does

[lavish stratus]

Completely broken.

[orchid spruce]

if you think so, that's good for you. frankly, i think the opposite. exploration is almost always unrewarding.

[lavish stratus]

Designed way worse than DDark.

[orchid spruce]

just have fun, don't think too much

[light wolf]

Wait was it the one that you can pary with?

[orchid spruce]

don't make me get in the way of your enjoyment

[dreamy nest]

The level design really tickles me to explore every nook and cranny in a way HK didn't

[lavish stratus]

Yes

[iron basin]

Bruh

[lone escarp]

tools are trash, i wanna use the spider strings, i wanna use red tools but they cost shards, which i'm anxious to lose, so i don't use them, crests are honestly bad, their attacks look different, but have nearly nothing unique, or irrelevant, like reaper is supposed to gather silk, but the other crests do its job better, fuck relying on enemies to heal btw

[orchid spruce]

i couldn't disagree less because of certain other metroidvanias i've played but it's great you're having fun

[lavish stratus]

The customisation is nice, but yes a lot of things are badly designed

[light wolf]

Yeah that shit's broken even though I didn't get it or ever beat phantom since I'm still on my first playtrough

[flat mason]

Shouldn't it be "I couldn't disagree more"?

[light wolf]

And in act 1

[hybrid flare]

I consider ss to have better level design than hk imo

[orchid spruce]

idk english is hard

[dreamy nest]

As a beast crest main, I feel ya

[hybrid flare]

The issue of bad rewards stems from shards but ss generally has more collectibles to offer

[orchid spruce]

i have janky memories of hk so tbh i cant comment on map design

[lone escarp]

like wtf, why give us different attacks, if they're not gonna do anything different. witch has a cool pogo and sprint i guess.
and red tools - i wanna know which is better, sure don't give us numbers, but why are there 15 fucking throwables

[dreamy nest]

I make things frustrating for myself by exploring with it

[hybrid flare]

Nothing is quite as rewarding as a crest doe

[orchid spruce]

but i would comment that silksong's exploration is very unrewarding

[flat mason]

Oh ok

[hybrid flare]

Disagree

[old raft]

dude enemy rando is so hard

i just had 2 shakra chasing me in the whole bone cave area

[lavish stratus]

Go on

[dreamy nest]

Beast down slash is fun to play with

[hybrid flare]

It is only unrewarding in very shallow sections that have shards in em, which still serve a purpose ig but they just get fucking consumed by spikes

[orchid spruce]

probably remove "very"

"very unrewarding" is for GRIME

unrewarding is for Silksong

[dreamy nest]

SK is not a soulslike, it's a DMClike

[hybrid flare]

More rewarding than hk btw

[iron basin]

Know what beast shards are

[lavish stratus]

What?

[hybrid flare]

Yeah

[lavish apex]

absolutely not

[lavish stratus]

Bosses dropped currency in Hollow Knight.

[hybrid flare]

Y'all forgot about the 5 thousand eggs?

[orchid spruce]

hk always has good rewards

[iron basin]

This game is based off of needle combat is it not? Why focus on tools more then your needle skills

[orchid spruce]

or at least i dont feel disappointed

[hybrid flare]

the bosses dropping shit is true idk why silksong doesn't have that

[lavish stratus]

Geo didn't die upon falling onto spikes.

[hybrid flare]

not even gauntlets

[orchid spruce]

i can only remember how i feel

[lavish apex]

did you forget about the 5000 silkeaters and piles of shell shards that fall into spikes?

[orchid spruce]

tbh

[hybrid flare]

or... 5 essence

[lone escarp]

like like like, please give us something other than throwables

[hybrid flare]

and 3 eggs

A tool that lets you like do a dash attack would be cool

[orchid spruce]

god, grime's item mechanic stinks

[lavish apex]

silksong is the worst at feeling consistently rewarding out of every non metroid-metroidvania i've played

[iron basin]

I think people are complaining about the game in the wrong ways

[hybrid flare]

I've found myself satisfied with the tools and crests i got

[flat mason]

Me too.
Sometimes I want to replay HK to make a proper judgement, but I feel like it wouldn't be fun

[lone escarp]

OH, ABOUT THAT
why THE FUCK is the magne brooch so fucking slow, AND IT DOESN'T PULL IN THE SHARDS, so i have to go back for the shards anyway, why do i hit a rosary deposit, and the rosaries JUMP OFF-SCREEN OR INTO SPIKES 9/10 TIMES. why the fuck did they downgrade the literal QoL tools so hard???

[hybrid flare]

You should replay hk and see for yourself

[lavish apex]

i have brotherman

[iron basin]

It states only rosaries gng

[orchid spruce]

you are not asking the biggest hk fan to replay hk

[lavish apex]

like literally 5 times since sk came out

[hybrid flare]

I agree

[orchid spruce]

he probably played 100 times

[lavish apex]

i stand by what i'm saying

[hybrid flare]

idk why shit falls onto spikes

[iron basin]

Beating a boss is rewarding

[orchid spruce]

i was replaying but stopped midway

[iron basin]

Beating a few enemies in a arena is rewarding to

[lavish apex]

see i rarely ever was that's the gap here

[iron basin]

Your just not into sk

[lavish stratus]

Progress, a memento or nothing.

[dreamy nest]

Can I get double jump before act 1?

[iron basin]

No

[dreamy nest]

²*

Act 2*

[iron basin]

You can get it in 2

[lone escarp]

compass isn't bult-in, because some people love counting room transitions i guess, fine, but why are there like 3 fucking slots, that's like making it cost 5 fucking notches??

[lavish apex]

a lot of charms in hk are also ass but that game has salubra notches to make them satisfying to get anyways and silksong lacks a proper equivalent to that

[flat mason]

Any reason?

[dreamy nest]

I got into Mount Fay (which is where I've heard you can get double jump)

[iron basin]

The whole point of playing the game is to have fun and if you complain about the game don't play it?

[dreamy nest]

Through the wardenfly

[sage umbra]

Most of the complains come from the difficulty

[orchid spruce]

oh yeah, true. collecting useless charm still feels good bc of salubra. i remember now.

[hybrid flare]

Memory lockets and the fact that you can use the "ass" stuff in sk

[lone escarp]

the amount of bounce is fucking comical

[iron basin]

True but you need the harpoon first

[orchid spruce]

i think i just jumped on a new game then forgorrrr

[lavish apex]

whispering roots and eggs are inoffensive because there are relics and other shit literally everywhere and a lot more of what you pick up feels like actually permanent increases to your strength

w/ spell upgrades and stuff

[hybrid flare]

3 slots quite literally made to host qol tools

[sage umbra]

And anyone complaning by comparing hollow knight with silksong isn't really a great measure

[flat mason]

lmaoo fairss

[lone escarp]

"then don't play it"
i can pull up 15 video essays that have tackled that response

[iron basin]

Two entirely different games

[lavish stratus]

Hollow Knight is better though

[sage umbra]

Like they are 2 different games

[lone escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/backhand-hoodwinked-hoodwinked2-hd-meme-gif-24300706

[hybrid flare]

They are innofensive because they're borderline nothing, especially roots

when have you ever grinded out the roots

[lavish stratus]

Whispering Roots are better than 17 mandatory fetch quests

[iron basin]

If you Complain and you can't do anything else about complaining stop complaining

[lone escarp]

real

[lavish apex]

i haven't and i also don't care

why do you care

[hybrid flare]

yeah there you go lmao

[lavish apex]

they don't hurt the game

[hybrid flare]

It's an exploration reward

[lavish apex]

you don't need to do them

[lone escarp]

or or or, get this:

feedback

[iron basin]

Yeah do that somewhere elsewhere, your feedback is clearly WRONG and NOT wanted

[real hearth]

i like the compass not being built in

[lavish apex]

yeah they are and it's crazy how even with some of them being nothingburgers it still feels way more rewarding than in silksong

[hybrid flare]

Roots are worse than the fetch quests btw since the enemies in the game are actually fun to fight

[iron basin]

It makes maps usable

[hybrid flare]

?????

[orchid spruce]

trueee, we should KILL all silksong critics

[flat mason]

What are the roots?

[lavish apex]

we are not defending farming wishes die

[lone escarp]

except more than half the chat agrees with me and it's only you, dipshit

[lavish stratus]

What?

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-the-witch-screaming-rant-gif-17904166

[real hearth]

yo be nice

[hybrid flare]

This issue was ever present and people are just now realizing it in silksong

[lavish apex]

get out

[lone escarp]

real

[iron basin]

Calm down Timmy tuffknuckels

[real hearth]

we all like silksong no need to be hostile

[lavish stratus]

I don't.

[hybrid flare]

no we dont

[lone escarp]

we don't

[hybrid flare]

we ALL hate silksong

[lavish apex]

because it's worse in silksong

[iron basin]

It's a love hate relationship

[orchid spruce]

TRUEEE, WE SHOULD KILL ALL SILKSONG FANS

[real hearth]

ok well we can bond over that too!

[lavish stratus]

Or just hate

[tulip sage]

i hate bilewater

[rocky jolt]

we've got hostiles

[hybrid flare]

I would say it is worse mainly because bosses don't drop jack shit

which is valid i agree

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-the-witch-screaming-rant-gif-17904166

[iron basin]

I love bile water

[hybrid flare]

Neither do gauntlets for some reason

[lavish apex]

yeah that's the big one

[flat mason]

Noooooo

[iron basin]

It brings more strategizing in how to get out instead of using just a bell beast

[hybrid flare]

very easy qol change to implement

[real hearth]

yeah some gauntlets are a bit unsatisfying

[lavish apex]

but also silksong wants you to be poor and suffer so you don't get little relic treats everywhere

[iron basin]

They're satisfyingly hard

[hybrid flare]

At least they're fun

[real hearth]

it’s not like the biggest issue ever but

[iron basin]

I play the game to feel THE PAINNNNNN

[tulip sage]

im actually losing it in bile water

[iron basin]

Need a little help?

[hybrid flare]

Scrounge is also a greedy bitch so she won't give you decent amounts

[real hearth]

you hate yourself until ur done and then you’ll say it’s the best area ever

[hybrid flare]

vaultkeeper stuff

[iron basin]

Don't fight enemies and use the bracelet

[tulip sage]

i could use help

[tulip sage]

doubt

[iron basin]

how so

[real hearth]

is it crazy to say that i like this

[lavish stratus]

Yes, and stupid.

[flat mason]

It's the best way to design something

[lavish apex]

memory lockets and eva shit a. culminate in exactly 1 reward that is actually good rather than a dripfeed of notches and b. are not clearly outlined
and also do not interact with tools in a tangible way

[real hearth]

little harsh but i respect ur opinion

[tulip sage]

the barbed bracelet? i never used that im not sure what it does

[lavish apex]

the closest thing is needing to get enough to buy architect contributing to her total but that barely matters

[iron basin]

It's just a way of working up to a reward and it's worth it

[iron basin]

Nah the muck one

[hybrid flare]

The reward is being able to use shit just like notches, eva grants you very important bonuses too

[tulip sage]

what does that do

[flat mason]

Wrath of Purity or something

[hybrid flare]

Instead of further access into useless dogshit

[lavish apex]

you wouldn't be the only one but i think so yes

[iron basin]

Yeah it gives you like 5max seconds you can spend in bile

[orchid spruce]

its actually like 30 seconds i think

[iron basin]

It's not that long it can't be

[orchid spruce]

purity + double heal trivializes bilewater kinda

[lavish apex]

part of what might be informing this for me is that i hate every crest other than hunter and wanderer

[iron basin]

Yrah

[hybrid flare]

I'd also say that having to pick on what to use your lockets adds dynamism to this whole thing

[orchid spruce]

it was 15 then buffed to 30, iirc

[lavish apex]

but we're comparing experiences here

and that's mine

[iron basin]

Why are they making the game easier

[torpid swift]

Hollow Knight players doing nothing but insulting their sequel and any metroidvania that isn't HK

like bruh this is stupid

[real hearth]

maybe this isn’t necessarily true for everyone but i think me being broke motivates me to fight enemies as i progress through levels / backtrack etc instead of running past everything. There is something to be said about certain enemies not dropping rosaries though

[torpid swift]

I've seen someone saying "cheap hollow knight copy" on a katana zero video

[tulip sage]

ouuuu shi i lowk dont have that 😭😭

[lavish stratus]

No, many metroidvanias other than Hollow Knight are better than Silksong.

[torpid swift]

many are better than hollow knight

[lavish apex]

i am actually not just insulting silksong i think the current topic is something that's also done better by like 5 other games

[iron basin]

Such as

[flat mason]

Worry not. I'm the Hollow Knight player that insults HK over any other metroidvania

[torpid swift]

W

[lavish apex]

nine sols, afterimage, blasphemous 2, mio, blasphemous 1 even

[orchid spruce]

untrue!!

[real hearth]

i want to try more metroidvanias

[iron basin]

Try nine sols

[lavish apex]

of course hk1 also as i've said

[orchid spruce]

nine sols is mid as hell, hell nawh

[real hearth]

the only one i tried was mio and i wasn’t that big of a fan of it

[lavish apex]

that said silksong is better than most of those games in a lot of other areas

[iron basin]

Guys they added a new feature I'm pretty sure

[lavish apex]

it's just a point of comparison

[hybrid flare]

I only insult mio sometimes

[iron basin]

I can revert to my old saves and revert to the latest save also so I can just grind achievements

[real hearth]

i’ve heard good things abt nine sols i was thinking of giving it a try at some point

[crisp raft]

yo

[orchid spruce]

lets talk about why mio sucks actually

[real hearth]

truthnuke

[orchid spruce]

sadface have the stage

what did you hate about mio

[flat mason]

Helo

[real hearth]

honestly i have a fundamental problem with the game which is that i think the backgrounds are way too distracting

[crisp raft]

sk discussion just shit talks every mvania i guess lol

[lavish stratus]

Would you rather they blurred them to hell like in Silksong?

[crimson ember]

Ninesouls looks cool but I keep procrastinating playing it

[real hearth]

i would like the play area to take more screen space

[hybrid flare]

bad healing system, useless currency

[crimson ember]

I tried Metroid dread but the first boss in it has undodgable damage and pissed me off

[orchid spruce]

truth nuke

[real hearth]

as it is now the character is really small in comparison to the background in a lot of areas

[hybrid flare]

If you've seen unblurred silksong backgrounds you wouldn't be able to play well the game

[crisp raft]

i can't remember if mio actually has a healing system other than the save points

[real hearth]

and it’s hard for me to see what i’m doing

[lavish stratus]

What? Why not?

[hybrid flare]

Because they're very detailed usually

woulda been distracting

[orchid spruce]

I think Silksong with less blur is fine. Hornet's red dress stands out pretty well

[real hearth]

these 2 things also suck

[orchid spruce]

I played it with almost full details before

[hybrid flare]

Hornet might, but not everything

[lavish apex]

metroid dread suckass

that's a game i will shit on

[orchid spruce]

TRUEEEE (never played it)

[hybrid flare]

With how enemy packed some areas are too

[real hearth]

you know i haven’t actually played metroid

[hybrid flare]

Exploration is rewarding but not on an item level

[orchid spruce]

i dont think you're missing out much

[hybrid flare]

Mio's exploration has moreso rewarding experiences

But the item rewards themselves are shit

[hybrid flare]

Its either nacre or some bullshit

[orchid spruce]

every single S-tier metroidvania is modern day, except arguably aria of sorrow

[hybrid flare]

Nacre being nothing

[exotic dome]

blur is literally needed, it's too distracting especially for new players

[lavish apex]

i actually almost uniquely hate metroid games a lot of people i know love them

[real hearth]

yeah like the exploration is pretty fun and the item placement itself is pretty good too, just what ur getting isn’t super awesome personally

[hybrid flare]

Nostalgiamaxxing

[hybrid flare]

True, and the fact that there aren't too many characters in the game

[exotic dome]

also it looks beautiful lol

[torpid swift]

I love mio

[hybrid flare]

and a SINGLE FUCKING VENDOR

[orchid spruce]

how far are you in

[torpid swift]

I probably love it more than both hk and nine sols

[lavish apex]

mio is peak

[real hearth]

yeah this is also an issue, there’s literally one vendor

[exotic cedar]

im scared of mio

[lavish apex]

top 4 in the genre

[real hearth]

honestly i’m not entirely sure, if i had to guess like 60-65%

[torpid swift]

true

[exotic dome]

mio is great

[lone escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-beastfly-gif-1643588580854591308

[lavish apex]

(that i've played)

[real hearth]

of the way through

[hybrid flare]

top 3 imo

[exotic dome]

true

[orchid spruce]

have you got ||spider legs||?

[real hearth]

but i stopped bc it wasn’t that fun

[hybrid flare]

I really like mio it feels awesome

[real hearth]

yes i have these

[lavish apex]

i like nine sols and hkss more

[torpid swift]

mio is beautiful.. like have you heard the soundtrack and voice acting.. and the worldbuilding

it's cozy

[hybrid flare]

I prefer mio over ns but they're both relatively close

[torpid swift]

I'm all up for the coziness

[lavish apex]

but it's just like
a fantastic game

[orchid spruce]

Oh, we stopped shitting on Mio. I am coming out that I think Mio is the best metroidvania

[real hearth]

soundtrack is great, art direction is great, i really like the character design

[hybrid flare]

executed for treason against silkkind

[torpid swift]

true..

[lavish apex]

interesting to hear from the #1 nine sols glazer

[real hearth]

sonbrero

[orchid spruce]

i am gonna crucify myself now

[hybrid flare]

The silk slop klan is coming to your location

[scarlet lion]

i underestimated him by alot

[orchid spruce]

i like nine sols better, but trying to be objective, i think mio is the best metroidvania

[scarlet lion]

its time to let her go

[hybrid flare]

I personally think that ss is the best mv, but mio's a bit close

[exotic dome]

i'd say ns is better overall and mio is better as a mv

[hybrid flare]

And i prefer hk over mio

[barren dew]

Hi

[hybrid flare]

Because hk nostalgia glaze yap yap

[flat mason]

Heloo

[crimson ember]

Second sentinel is so cool I just wish their quest was easier on second play throughs

[real hearth]

i should probably finish mio so i can actually get my thoughts 100% straight

[exotic dome]

1. ss 2. hk 3. mio 4. ns for me

[hybrid flare]

Lwk same

[scarlet lion]

same with 1st sinnr

[exotic dome]

nah i replayed it and it's still 2nd

[lone escarp]

let who go

[real hearth]

her

[lavish stratus]

so much ragebait okay i'm sleeping

[real hearth]

did you not even read the message

[scarlet lion]

u know what happens to the shop npc after u buy everything?

[orchid spruce]

this, for me

[lone escarp]

aah

[exotic dome]

people when they see opinions

[torpid swift]

1. MIO, NS
2. SS

...
98.
99. HK

[lavish apex]

insane

[torpid swift]

don't kill me

[lone escarp]

i'm so used to them dying, i basically treat them as background objects

[real hearth]

everytime i see someone talk about ender lillies in here they hate it

[scarlet lion]

the real ragebait is here

[orchid spruce]

kill her

[real hearth]

is that ragebait or do people actually not like that game

[scarlet lion]

ns is my 2nd fav mv with silksong on 3rd hk on 1st

[exotic dome]

i was debating myself on if ns is better than hk but hearing the resting grounds theme affer 5 years ended that debate

[leaden delta]

hk better

[orchid spruce]

lilies only flaw is bad enemy design. it has excellent map design and art direction

[torpid swift]

dw I like hk

[lavish apex]

same exactly

[leaden delta]

cuzzzz

[odd hull]

I love seeing my goat

[torpid swift]

but it's just lower on the spectrum

[leaden delta]

fuck it why not

[orchid spruce]

also heavenly music

[real hearth]

maybe i give it a try at some point then

[hybrid flare]

Ns is the worst METROIDVANIA

As a game its great

[light wolf]

I just went to the location where that rhinoground bettle is right next to pilgrim's rest and I opened the gate to free it, and I expected it to be in pilgrims rest but when I went there there was nothing and still is nothing. I think I might have broken the game or I'm a dumbass

[orchid spruce]

listen to this soundtrack named Harmonious Ender Lilies OST

[scarlet lion]

this boss was the worst one

[lavish apex]

ns does not use its metroidvania elements well like objectively but i do not give a shit

[real hearth]

i have too many things i want to try ngl

[lavish apex]

i enjoyed it too much to care

and it technically is one
so

[real hearth]

hate him

[torpid swift]

This

[exotic dome]

lol

[flat mason]

WHA
I love Ender Lilies, it's the best MV I have played

[orchid spruce]

even if you will never play it, just listen to this

[real hearth]

whenever i’ve seen ender lillies the first thing i hear is that the combat is ass

[orchid spruce]

biggest harmonious fan

[torpid swift]

Ender lillies doesn't exist in the game pass😢😢😢😢😢😢I'll sail the seas to get it

[flat mason]

You're so real

[real hearth]

i haven’t played it so idk but

[hybrid flare]

everyone who ever played ns will die in 5 hours

[orchid spruce]

no, its decent actually. its like "red tools if they were well designed"

[lone escarp]

rushes to the download page

[real hearth]

interesting although i like red tools

[hybrid flare]

Same

[light wolf]

Does anybody if there's an explanation for this?

[hybrid flare]

Sure some of them are broken but the ones that are often called shit are fun to use

[flat mason]

I like the ending music too much, but Harmonious is a banger too

[real hearth]

it’s in the shop up there

[old compass]

I'm enjoying nine sols so far...?

[hybrid flare]

Mfs acting as if quickslash and hedgehog jade aren't a thing 💔

[orchid spruce]

so you will love ender lilies system then

[lavish apex]

azure bow is red tools if they were well designed but nobody wants to hear it

[hybrid flare]

Azure bow if anyone ever used it

[orchid spruce]

harmonious is too peak

[light wolf]

Huh?

[orchid spruce]

but ending credits is peak too

[real hearth]

like you know next to the gate there’s the little house where you pay money to enter and there’s a bench and a npc

[flat mason]

Check my bio

[real hearth]

rhino chud is in there

[hardy tangle]

nine sols really had to make 9 games to be relevant 😂

[hybrid flare]

Azure bow is lwk just free damage without any risk of usage whatsoever

The charge system is good icl

[lavish apex]

i do that

[light wolf]

Well that's what I was talking about, its not there

[lone escarp]

ender lilies is just... a bit small, i think? compared to HK and SS. but it's pretty cool. i also couldn't get invested into it, as i did with HK

[orchid spruce]

i used it a lot

[hybrid flare]

Because azure bow gives you the world

[real hearth]

u might need to bench in a different area

[hybrid flare]

and lets you stop time

[real hearth]

or something

[light wolf]

Also did that, still nothing

[real hearth]

mm good to hear

[scarlet lion]

cloud piecer X was the best

[hybrid flare]

I also did casually but once i got to like the later parts it was less and less used

[hardy tangle]

@scarlet lion imagine not getting the joke

[flat mason]

I think the combat is great, has good build variety too.

[hybrid flare]

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