sk-discussion

[fathom schooner]

Okay but i cant PLACE my runes

[sharp slate]

dont the runes auto target though? to a degree

[fathom schooner]

The big guys aren't threats those are free silk

[severe steeple]

I have had almost all circles hit an enemy there before. Im not saying rune rage is good its niche but its strong in certain situations, maybe they can reduce the charge time or something but the damage potential is there

[fathom schooner]

Its the floating annoying dudes you want dead

Dudes that die to a single sharpdart

[fathom schooner]

They need to change its damage formula lol

[split lodge]

The casting duration is definitely the shortest stick

[fathom schooner]

Its the only one that dosent follow the regular spell damage scaling rules

[old compass]

as far as I'm concerned, you can already cheese coral tower with silkstorm (with voltfilament and shaman buff), so it's definitely not the best at it already

[sharp slate]

i can see the coral usage in theory, i would need to test for myself though, it is an interesting consideration

[sharp slate]

yea but if you can guarentee just kill waves with rune rage then it might be worth it for stuff like hitless

[fathom schooner]

Ive used it in coral your better off with targeted damage like sharpdart or cross stitch

[severe steeple]

alright well maybe the first circle on an enemy deals double damage and all other circles hits on an enemy deals the regular damage or something

[sharp slate]

like i said though id need to test it

[split lodge]

FS uses it and it has a 70% chance of hitting me, I use it and it has a 100% chance of hitting nothing

[fathom schooner]

Cross stitch gets the advantage of jumping directly into a flying enemy and it clearing the wave

Cross stitch casually covers a rather wide rectangle of where you took damage

Its usually 90% of the arena

[sharp slate]

huh interesting didnt know this

[severe steeple]

you can clear the wave instantly with rune rage though thats all im saying. 3 enemy wave you use it at theright time 1 to 2 circles hit every enemy and only one enemy survives at 1 hp

[sharp slate]

yea but that requires you to hit the cross stitch

[lean yoke]

Silking and songing

[sharp slate]

if rune rage clears the wave instantly its a cool consideration

[fathom schooner]

Thats not asking for anything

Cross stitch has the fastest activation time of any skill

Jump into flying enemy and press parry

[sharp slate]

still room for error, which is important in hitless, minimizing human error is big

[severe steeple]

when I used it, it most of the time killed 1 to 2 enemies in a wave and then the third had a chance to be hit aswell

[fathom schooner]

Id use cross stitch purely BECAUSE of human error

Press the free damage button

[split lodge]

Instant get out of jail free card

[sharp slate]

i use sharpdart mostly now

for my shamans my loadout is cross, sharp, nails

[fathom schooner]

Same but thats because it got buffed

[sharp slate]

though thats my boss rush loadout

[fathom schooner]

Shaman is mostly a boss crest

[old compass]

depends, I honestly use silkspear for less errors considering how sharpdart has that shitty delay that kept drying my shade cloak memory

[sharp slate]

i really dont like the way cross stitch throws you at the end of the animation tbh

[fathom schooner]

You have i frames

[sharp slate]

solid, top 3 crest imo for hitless boss rush

[fathom schooner]

I main shaman

[odd marsh]

what yall talkn bout

[sharp slate]

ik but it still feels very akward imo

[split lodge]

Why does the father of the flame remind me of the furnace golem from elden ring dlc

[fathom schooner]

By far one of my favorite crest

[severe steeple]

I wish nails had a higher skill ceiling. I would suggest making it so if you press nails again while theyre summoned you shoot the nails out instantly and they cross eachother at a certain distance where if you hit an enemy at the right distance it dealt a critical hit

[odd marsh]

yep,i wish we got it earlier

[sharp slate]

i like shamans but i cant see myself maining it due to the pogo and the dash attack

[old compass]

local skonger finds self in another crest/silk skill discussion:

[fathom schooner]

Need a NG+

[sharp slate]

pogo has such a delay/long animation on it it eats my soul

[split lodge]

It’s locked behind act 3 because act 3 is basically a boss rush

[fathom schooner]

The pogo pushes you up even if it hits nothing

[odd marsh]

It gives so much bounce, id rather have that while fighting gauntlets rather than bosses

[fathom schooner]

The dash is pretty good

[sharp slate]

tbf it was a rune rage discussion silk skill discussion intially which is goated

[odd marsh]

ye but i love its charge attack

[sharp slate]

how do you like the dash...

[fathom schooner]

It hands you 2 i frame spells and one of your choice

[odd marsh]

IT IS SO GOOD

[old compass]

is there a mod that lets you choose your starting crest

[sharp slate]

shamans charge attack is really cool

[split lodge]

Bell eater, WATE, tormented trobbio, crawfather, clover dancers, karm, Seth, nyleth, khann, lost lays

[fathom schooner]

Because i got to smack T trobbio with it constantly

[split lodge]

All within one third of act 2’s length

[odd marsh]

it does not hand be enough tool slots

[fathom schooner]

And unfortunately bad

[severe steeple]

I hated shaman dash but then realised its really not much different than other dash attacks

[old compass]

funny delay ring

[fathom schooner]

Thats the talk of a quitter

[sharp slate]

it just feels like it takes sooooo long to cast, and if i do a dash attack instead of a regular attack on accident feels like im getting hit lol

[fathom schooner]

Dash also pushes you back instead of up

[violet ether]

How does Shaman's lack of AoE Needle feel?

[odd marsh]

im sorry but hk shaped me and wanderer shaped me een more, i just could not adapt to having lesser slots 😭

[static sluice]

What

[fathom schooner]

So instead of getting sent into the air your ready to hit again

[violet ether]

I'd assume it's a pretty negligible downside?

[static sluice]

It lacks it?

[fathom schooner]

Aoe is for spells so

[severe steeple]

shaman attacks are very safety based, youre supposed to gain silk safely and then use spells thats the intention

[sharp slate]

wanderer my beloved

[fathom schooner]

Oh no more than 1 enemy..... spell

[odd marsh]

mhm

[fathom schooner]

Also it can hit more than 1 enemy at the same time

[violet ether]

Shaman's Needle can't damage multiple enemies per swing unlike all other Needle swings.

[fathom schooner]

It can

[violet ether]

Can it?

[fathom schooner]

Yes

[sharp slate]

tbh shamans biggest struggle so far for my usage of it has been against nyleth and FotF

[fathom schooner]

The downside is healing being slower

[odd marsh]

i beat lost lace first play thru with only using my keyboard and my brother spamming mouse bouttons, wanderer made it possible

[static sluice]

Wanderer is my 2nd favorite
For some reason i like the reaper more? I acknowledged the fact that wanderer is superior

But i like reaper's style

[fathom schooner]

It makes you actively avoid healing and causes you to use silk as extra health via cross stitch

[sharp slate]

honestly based, repear gets way to much hate, UPPPERCUT IS FIRE

[odd marsh]

reaper is too slo for my liking

[old compass]

reaper is like SO first playthrough crest

after that you don'y use it no more

[fathom schooner]

Ironically a shaman crest is essentially immortal unti out of silk

[sharp slate]

i did a low jump run and used reaper for basically 80% of the run

[static sluice]

Dash attack down slash combo

[static sluice]

Except that i still used it

[fathom schooner]

Running playthroughs

[odd marsh]

in first playthru i just used hunter till reaper and then got wanderer and never changed (as a main crest)

[severe steeple]

Used it on my second playthrough still during certain encounters and areas where it felt right

[fathom schooner]

Also reaper is useful as it has a BOAT of a pogo

[static sluice]

Hunter's pogo is fun

[fathom schooner]

And the extra silk gen allows reaper to heal and still be aggressive with spells

[odd marsh]

the ONLY place i used architect is for the boss fight of skarr singer and king khann gauntlets

[old compass]

you mean like, gauntlets

[fathom schooner]

Reaper is just pseudo shaman

[sharp slate]

im honestly slowly starting to view reaper as the quick focus crest of sk, like of course you wont get as much damage, but the surviability you get

[severe steeple]

yes mostly gauntlets and exploration

[static sluice]

My first playthrough i played WAY TOO safe i didn't even use silk spells at all

[fathom schooner]

Yeah, you refund your bind cost almost immediately with reaper

[old compass]

exploration?
you really can stand the pogo?

[static sluice]

But now am more confident and use them a lot

[sharp slate]

yea i didnt use silk skills that much either tbh

[severe steeple]

its like the safest pogo in the game wdym

[static sluice]

That dash spell is my favorite

[fathom schooner]

4-5 hits spawns enough silk orbs to just immediately be at 9

[sharp slate]

i think its nautral in hk/sk to save soul/silk for healing in first playthroughs

[odd marsh]

slow af

[fathom schooner]

If you have enough silk to cast a spell and die, its a skill issue, you can just treat your silk as extra HP

[sharp slate]

feel like sk rewards saving silk for healing even more because you get so much health back

[old compass]

what r u, playing steel soul?

[odd marsh]

multibinder with injector band with wanderer go brr

[severe steeple]

that lets you react better when you do miss but youre less likely to miss in the first place because of the radius

[fathom schooner]

What you want me to pogo with BEAST crest?

[severe steeple]

no

[sharp slate]

my steel soul loadout, with reserve bind at the end for LL

[fathom schooner]

Beast dosent even pogo it iust takes drill

[static sluice]

Can we acknowledge that all crests are good and have their uses ( except beast am sorry who even likes it)

[odd marsh]

as a hollow knight player i dont pogo until im sure it hits

[fathom schooner]

Beast has use lol

It lets you be almost as brainless as wanderer

[old compass]

if you're not playing steel soul I don't really get why you'd pass on other pogos

[static sluice]

I know i just like to slander it

[sharp slate]

they all do defintely, relatively well balanced as well which is interesting

[fathom schooner]

Your bind is naturally faster, with an injector band its faster than some silk skills

[odd marsh]

this was my loadout the second i got multibinder, then i added fracted mask for survivablity

[fathom schooner]

And then you can just smack a boss repeatedly

[sharp slate]

:/

[static sluice]

Oh class is over

Bye

[odd marsh]

multibinder is op in bilewater

[fathom schooner]

Wanderer is brainless 90% of the time

[severe steeple]

I dont I used every single crest even in my first playthrough, the crests I at first hated aswell allways. I allways do that with most games I try to use everything the game has even if I think it sucks at first

[odd marsh]

it heals for 2 and removes the maggot effect

[sharp slate]

i think its an easier crest then hunters, but not brainless

[odd marsh]

it just feels natural

[fathom schooner]

I can get 7 hits against most bosses staggers or screams

Thats ridiculous

[odd marsh]

for people who went directly to skong and didint play hk they would be more comfortable with other crests

[old compass]

no no no I know you use every crest I mean why u choose reaper for exploration

[fathom schooner]

Wanderer just gets an extra hit or 2 on almost every attack window

[odd marsh]

thats the strats

it has faster attack cd for a reason

[fathom schooner]

Theres a reason wanderer gets no range its because attack speed is one of the most important stats in the game

[sharp slate]

tis the gimmick of wanderer nail go brrr

[fathom schooner]

Faster attack CD and yet you still output twice the slashes of any other crest

[mental snow]

IF DOUBLE FOURTH CHORUS COULD PLEASE STOP RAINING METEORS AND SCREAMING IN MY EAR, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED

[severe steeple]

I find it a little bit easier for platforming and if im somewhere like in bilewater I can use bind to farm silk off of 1 enemy when im low. Its got all the basic tool slots so there isnt really a downside to it like witch crest or beast

[sharp slate]

i think its like 30% ish

[sharp slate]

i hope you got magma bell before fighting them xD

[fathom schooner]

Like im slandering wanderer for being brainless but i use it

[odd marsh]

yep and if you are used to being close to the bosses hitboxes then its op

[old compass]

fair I guess
the slowness still kinda throws myself off in exploration though so

[ionic gale]

As a wanderer main, I can confirm that the range is a pain in the ass, and cancels out the extreme speed

[fathom schooner]

Its specifically my "i don't wanna actually make tactics" crest

[odd marsh]

yep

[mental snow]

Didn't need it, 2nd try

[fathom schooner]

Not even gonna lie i call skill issue on that

[sharp slate]

it weird because for me wanderer allows me the hard focus on the boss because of the lack of gimmicks/moveset, clean simple moveset lets me hardfocus on the boss

[ionic gale]

lwk I have lost count of how many rosaries I've lost from dying from flying enemies, cuz of the horrendous range

[sharp slate]

Eyo nice, pretty decent double boss tbh

[ionic gale]

honestly yeah fr

[fathom schooner]

I main the safest crest in the game of shaman and i still stay close to bosses

[sharp slate]

yea this is the main threat

[mental snow]

Gonna be honest, Double Foruth Chorus? Did not like it.

[odd marsh]

skill issue i would say

[fathom schooner]

Low range

[ionic gale]

THERES A DOUBLE FOURTH CHORUS BOSS????

[mental snow]

Modded

[sharp slate]

mod

[odd marsh]

no its a mod

[fathom schooner]

All im hearing is "i dont use sawtooth circlet"

[ionic gale]

Oh alr

[mental snow]

Is that directed at me or-

[fathom schooner]

No

[old compass]

me in #sk-help watching as new players ask for what tools to use to pass coral tower, showing me the wanderer's crest: (IT'S BAD AGAINST FLYING ENEMEIS)

[mental snow]

Okay just making sure

[odd marsh]

whats wrong in that

[severe steeple]

sawtooth circlet is only good for one playstyle tbh and it also destroys your ears

[sharp slate]

i throw sawtooth on every crest besides beast

[fathom schooner]

Massive dps on top of Massive needle DPS

[sharp slate]

beast i dont know what to fucking do with their one blue

[fathom schooner]

It has more DPS than every needle strike

[odd marsh]

i guess but that is more liek second playthrough tool for me, in my first one i just used fractured mask instead of circlet

[sharp slate]

god sawtooth wanderer is so peak though clip time let me get the clip

[mental snow]

Alright guys, gonna get Fractured Mask and take on Double Savage Beastfly. Wish me luck.

[fathom schooner]

Dread it, run from it, sawtooth is better than your needle strike in every way except giving you silk

[severe steeple]

yeah if youre willing to spam spacebar while constantly in bosses faces and just tanking the hits

[odd marsh]

dude clawline is so underrated

[fathom schooner]

Why would you tank the hit

[ionic gale]

how am I supposed to circlet on a 6 inch screen

[odd marsh]

ITS SO FUCKING BROKEN

[sharp slate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1499682243919220867/18sec.mp4?ex=6a0f64ad&is=6a0e132d&hm=b7ff7b831881adf6f545b451f08b45b9b595468cb47bf4e6fb68b9dd29524b98&

[fathom schooner]

I used circlet against half the bosses while remote playing to my phone

So small screen + random input lag

[odd marsh]

maniac

[severe steeple]

because if youre playing like that youre already using either wanderes, beast or witch crest and have endless silk to heal

[old compass]

you WHAT

[fathom schooner]

Yes

[ionic gale]

damn ig I just have extreme skill issue

[odd marsh]

okay bro what

[fathom schooner]

Dont worry me too

[sharp slate]

it was so fun to work on that speed kill, i will never try to optomize it any further thoughj

[odd marsh]

no no , he is ABNORMAL

[sharp slate]

i got shamans to a 20 second speedkill, can defintely get it to about the same as wanderers for karm

[orchid spruce]

[fathom schooner]

Abnormal for knowing how to circlet?

[odd marsh]

its impressive, my keyboard would die if i pressed sm at the same time

[fathom schooner]

Im on controller so

[odd marsh]

no for being so good on such a bad setup

[fathom schooner]

Its not a bad setup, its other people want to use the large TV

[sharp slate]

one more propoganda this is for sharpdart more then circlet though https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1505638232799580412/Trobbio2.mp4?ex=6a0ff7a0&is=6a0ea620&hm=6d6f176a01462bbd35a9355e77304f9b32bd0faa7bb95e8a64b96964cbf460c1&

[ionic gale]

This is exactly what I did for karmelita, but I had cross stitch and mossberries, memory crystal

[severe steeple]

like I said circlet is only really good for one playstyle and thats bumrushing bosses and constantly being up close to them

[sharp slate]

I need to redo this fight, i learned how to optimize cirlet on trobbio 2 a bit more

[old compass]

oh I thought you pressed buttons on your phone screen to use the circlet-

[fathom schooner]

Any crest can circlet

[odd marsh]

i never used flint slate

[fathom schooner]

I am not that masochistic but i could be

[ionic gale]

No fucking way you dont

[fathom schooner]

Name the last boss you killed

[severe steeple]

lost lace

[odd marsh]

dude skong community showed me thsi game has levels

[ionic gale]

Ohhhh, but I'm talking about doing it on a mobile screen

[old compass]

lost garmond

[sharp slate]

erm, shit, double moss mother

[odd marsh]

lost lace

[fathom schooner]

Okay i haven't done lost lace on this file yet

[ionic gale]

||Lost lace|| x2

[old compass]

why would you project skong on your mobile screen anyways

[odd marsh]

that fight i just bulling then bro'

[old compass]

r u playing on the go?

[mental snow]

Double Savage Beastfly is.... wow.

[ionic gale]

Lwk just run it on native port, it runs much better

[fathom schooner]

I died to this fucker at max masks and spools with sylphsong 3 times before he died to sharpdart wanderers

[sharp slate]

double moss mother is a suprisingly difficult fight in hitless which is funny

[sharp slate]

hell

[odd marsh]

that is expected as for the visual clutter

[exotic cedar]

Which one?

[sharp slate]

there is cheese i dev. for triple beastfly

[fathom schooner]

No access to the TV the console is hooked up to

[severe steeple]

anyone else here got the purple quill, wait till they add golden quill at the end of pantheon of pharloom trobbio

[sharp slate]

it involves threadstorm

[ionic gale]

I use it cuz I'm too broke to buy both a pc and silksong

[mental snow]

The first one

[exotic cedar]

Second one gave me cancer and crucified my family

[fathom schooner]

Wife no want to give up TV, still want to skong

[mental snow]

Keep in mind, JUST got Cloak

[sharp slate]

i thankfully had sharpdart at that time

[old compass]

fr, anyways watch this lost garmond cheese that I used on my steel soul file https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi1qxNfpIII

[sharp slate]

hear me out multiplayer triple enemies alpre

[ionic gale]

I might get it on my speed completion run(if I'm masochistic enough to do a speed completion run)

[fathom schooner]

Hear me out multiplayer spells only quadruple enemies

[severe steeple]

1000$ yesss
1000$ + 20$ noo

[sharp slate]

if lost lace wasnt such hell... i would have completed triple and quad by now

[fathom schooner]

You got that backwards chief

[sharp slate]

no cheese for LL so depressing

[fathom schooner]

LL cheese is circlet

[old compass]

watch this happen to me too but with my sister playing animal crossing

[severe steeple]

damn

[ionic gale]

I run it on a $100 which my dad owns

[sharp slate]

i wonder if anyone has beat triple LL

[fathom schooner]

Okay lets get this outta the way

Every bosses cheese, is just knowing how to circlet

[severe steeple]

i will never learn how to circlet because its lame

[ionic gale]

I can't buy silksong cuz I'm 13 and my parents don't buy games for me

[odd marsh]

i use a 80k inr laptop for office work

[fathom schooner]

Its "lame" and its an insane fighting game input for every quarter of a second your doing it

[odd marsh]

my parents dotn buy either, i pirated the game first and then convinced them to buy cuz it was so good

[old compass]

can you try to pull out the "pretty please" card on them during june 1st children's day?

[ionic gale]

₹80k for office work?

[severe steeple]

but that insane fighting game input is actually just mashing spin attack

[ionic gale]

Holy shit

[odd marsh]

yea a touch scrren 360 folable hp pavallion laptop

[orchid spruce]

I use a 500K$ movie screen in my indoors theatre to play Silksong. This masterpiece deserves to be appreciated on every pixel.

[odd marsh]

its 7 years old im getting a new one next month

[gentle reef]

hollow knight silk-son

[odd marsh]

what the fuck

[severe steeple]

sonsilk

[odd marsh]

silkson sound better

[fathom schooner]

That input is
Jump, time double jump, turn around in the few frames where both hitboxes on circlet are active, turn around again, hit the boss, circlet again, do the turnaround again, then pogo the boss

[ionic gale]

They will absolutely NOT budge, the only game they ever bought me was minecraft:pocket edition and only that because it was like 10 cents on play store and I'd been whining for it for years

[fathom schooner]

All of that is in about a quarter of a second

Not to mention not getting hit

[odd marsh]

so relateable

[old compass]

it's 10 what
wtf I bought that shit for 20 dollars wtf

[severe steeple]

I feel like theyll patch the both hitboxes bit

[fathom schooner]

Even if they do its still massively more DPS

[odd marsh]

its like 20 rupees on the store , it used to be 500 what

[ionic gale]

It's ₹30 on play store here, and I applied a ₹20 off discount code, so I got it for ₹10

[severe steeple]

massively less fun unless your goal is to kill every boss as quickly as possible

[ionic gale]

Yeah they changed it like last year

[odd marsh]

my goal is to kill a boss

[fathom schooner]

I mean I'm trying to kill bosses they just die very fast

[fathom schooner]

Circlet can halve a boss fight time

[odd marsh]

i bought it on a 8 year old tablet and never used it

[fathom schooner]

Or more

[old compass]

eh whatever, wasted more money than that

[fathom schooner]

It does THAT much damage

[severe steeple]

nobody said circlet is bad I have time and time said its only good if youre using it in that way though

otherwise its just meh

[fathom schooner]

I mean it works for everything but parkour

[old compass]

circlet helped me spot krat spying on me so it's a good tool-

[fathom schooner]

Its got a longer range than all needle attacks

[odd marsh]

idc abt fast atleast on ym firs tplaythru which ended a few days ago, i cared more about like just fighting a boss in a way that is fun

[fathom schooner]

Its very good against flying enimies especially

[odd marsh]

if circlet is fun for you then ig that works

[fathom schooner]

Circlet is "screw flying dudes"

[ionic gale]

hold up lemme check how expensive skong is in rupees

[odd marsh]

clawline carried me

[fathom schooner]

Clawline is dope

[odd marsh]

yep

[odd marsh]

800 arround

[severe steeple]

yeah but any regular player is not gona spend all their time trying to jump next to enemies they might do it accidentally a couple of times but most of the times they jut opt for a regular hit

[fathom schooner]

I encourage learning circlet because its very good even when not used perfectly

[fathom schooner]

If you jump near an enemy to needle hit them, youll do both

[ionic gale]

Yea

[old compass]

I encourage learning circlet so boss rush

[fathom schooner]

Like unless your trying to hit the enemy from beneath (usually a bad idea)

[odd marsh]

i have th epirated file still with me

[fathom schooner]

Usually you jump up next to a flying enemy to stab them

[severe steeple]

circlet just is not fun for most regular players it is what it is

[orchid spruce]

omg! japanese

[fathom schooner]

So you get to circlet and stab them

[odd marsh]

i pogo on them

[ionic gale]

It's indian rupees 😭

[fathom schooner]

I mean if you dont like circlet that's fine, but its ridiculously good if you learn it

[old compass]

low quality satire

[severe steeple]

most player wont change up their entire attack strategy for a tools

[odd marsh]

high halls gauntlet was the easiest shit of my life, 2 tries

[fathom schooner]

Good idea as long as it works

[orchid spruce]

[odd marsh]

yep

[fathom schooner]

Man it took me 3 on my most recent file and I was going in at 8 masks and hivesteel needle

[odd marsh]

what i did was used circlet and played normally and saw how many times it hit and then decided to keep it or no

[fathom schooner]

I accidently craft binded instead of regular on an attempt and died

[ionic gale]

Killed like 20 of my speedrun runs

[fathom schooner]

But did you know the damage it did?

Because, funny thing, it does more than your needle

[odd marsh]

even i had hivesteel and 8 masks but i used wandere and fracted mask for survivablity

[fathom schooner]

And it can hit twice per activation

[old compass]

sometimes it's ok to cheat
use the file rollback

[odd marsh]

it did but the way i play i barely hit it thrice

[fathom schooner]

Are you not getting close to enemies?

[ionic gale]

Nah if I do that, I'll feel guilty and unsatisfied

[fathom schooner]

Or just not jumping near them?

[odd marsh]

i am but i dont double jump and often

[fathom schooner]

Ah i see

[old compass]

[fathom schooner]

I basically immediately double jump whenever i jump

[odd marsh]

i used double jumps to avoid attacks or pogo a flying thing

so that i can stay close to the boss

[ionic gale]

lwk 100%ing skong and getting all mementos is like my top ten greatest life achievements, I wanna add speedrun achievement to the pile

[odd marsh]

mhm

[fathom schooner]

Yeah I'm using wings to get extra height immediately

[old compass]

I don't use double jump (I thought mount fay was inaccessable)

[severe steeple]

I wondered what if they add a ninja crest where after you bind you leave a silk decoy that enemies target and you go invisible and invincible for 5 seconds or untill you do you first attack. That would be a unique crest and could work well for gauntlets

[fathom schooner]

I dont use clawline in combat often (i forget its there)

[odd marsh]

isint it like kind of that one tool which leaves a frozen body when hit

[ionic gale]

wait cogwork core without double jump is possible right?

[fathom schooner]

Bosses aren't fast enough or have big enough arenas that you cant cross the entire thing with a sprint jump dash

[odd marsh]

did u 100% the game?

[fathom schooner]

Yeah

[severe steeple]

that ones not a decoy though its just a trap after taking damage

[fathom schooner]

You just need clawline and grip for it

[odd marsh]

i guess

[old compass]

I did I was just referencing my first playthrough

[ionic gale]

I see where I wasted my time in speedruns then

[odd marsh]

did you nto 100% on your first playthrough

[fathom schooner]

I mean you need wings anyway

Its %

[odd marsh]

yea

[fathom schooner]

Also I don't think you can get to act 3 without it

[old compass]

watch me do another steel heart run

[odd marsh]

i dont know

what is steel heart run

[fathom schooner]

I dont either i get clawline and rush wings immediately

[odd marsh]

i thought it was steel soul

[old compass]

100% steel soul

[fathom schooner]

100% steel soul

[ionic gale]

Do a speed completion steel heart

[odd marsh]

ohhh cool cool

[old compass]

the achievement for 100% steel soul is steel heart

[odd marsh]

i did that with hk , i first got the speed run achievement from ti and then finished it

[fathom schooner]

Im waiting for the p5 achievement it will take me too long to get

[old compass]

I already did (21 hours)

[odd marsh]

insame

[ionic gale]

teach me how'd you do it

[odd marsh]

in firstplaythrough i beat lost lace and 100% in 50 hrs

[fathom schooner]

Alright time to circlet my way through coral tower

[old compass]

plan:

1. get plasmium
2. win

[odd marsh]

21 hrs iis insane

[ionic gale]

I had like 70h on my 100%

[fathom schooner]

Get plasmium, OD, never bench again (your not dying so)

[severe steeple]

I hope they add more secret tool interactions. Like magma bell + whispfire lantern = getting hti by fire instantly spawns a whisp or something

[odd marsh]

is 50 hrs good?, like i got 100% in 49 hrs but beating lost lace took an hour

[ionic gale]

what would you do before you get architect's?

[odd marsh]

just play good

[fathom schooner]

Steel soul has a different tool than dead bugs purse

[odd marsh]

it does?

[fathom schooner]

They get a yellow thats an extra tool pouch

[ionic gale]

Ohhhh

[fathom schooner]

So all crests can OD

[ionic gale]

It's the shell satchet right?

[fathom schooner]

Ye

[civic island]

Yooo

[odd marsh]

what it do

[fathom schooner]

Its literally an extra tool pouch

[odd marsh]

crazy

[fathom schooner]

Aka the best yellow tool ever

[severe steeple]

dead bugs purse should get removed entirely and just replaced by satchel. I would 100% do that such a useless tool

[ionic gale]

Shit I didn't even think of that in steel soul runs

[civic island]

Depends on user

[fathom schooner]

I think most of the tools in general need rebalancing

[civic island]

Some dont use their tools at all

[fathom schooner]

Unless its a shaman player (me) its the best yellow

[mental snow]

Did they ever fix (by that I mean buff) the Flintslate + Pollip synergy?

[fathom schooner]

You can never knock more things that go boom

[fathom schooner]

No

[mental snow]

Damn

[ionic gale]

I only used flintslate, cogflies and flea brew on my wanderuns

[fathom schooner]

Pollip is also just really bad

[severe steeple]

whats a tool that keeps only HALF your rosaries and nothing else gona do past act 1. You get infinite silk eaters anyway, you can bind your strings to keep the safe, half is way too much to lose still and once godhomecomes its useless

[civic island]

Valid

[mental snow]

Yeah I know that, just kinda wished they'd change the synergy to be more beneficial

[civic island]

I can agree tbh

[fathom schooner]

Technically rosaries always have use due to the rosary cannon

[mental snow]

They should just allow Pollip effects to stack. That would make it actually usable.

[fathom schooner]

Unfortunately the rosary cannon is very garbage

[mental snow]

Like even just a max stack of like 3 would be fine

[severe steeple]

pollip is a genius tool as it increases damage of tools but discourages tool spam for it, it should really just scalewith crafting kits though

[fathom schooner]

A max stack of 3 would remain middling

[mental snow]

It'd still be usable.

[fathom schooner]

It does, rounding hates it

[mental snow]

Yeah not endgame material but still

[fathom schooner]

A blue slot for 9 damage per tick?

[severe steeple]

oh it does, guess its so little I never noticed

[fathom schooner]

Its 1-2-2-3-3

Same as the rosary cannon

[ionic gale]

Wait so once new dlc stuff gets added, is it gonna count in the 100% or is it gonna go over 100% like 104% or smthn

[fathom schooner]

At least 2 damage is something in act 1

[fathom schooner]

It goes over

HK was 112% with all DLCs

[ionic gale]

Ohh alr

[severe steeple]

rosary cannon needs rework. It should automatically refill at benches and you should be able to change ammo type from regular rosaries, to grey rosaries, to white rosaries which gets exponentially more pricy to fire but more damage

[fathom schooner]

It makes steel heart easier too

You should be able to load the rosary cannon anywhere

But it should remain manual

[severe steeple]

transform rosary cannon into coin gun from terraria essentially

[ionic gale]

Fr

[severe steeple]

you want to fire it for 45 rosaries a second in exchange for insane damage then so be it

[fathom schooner]

Honestly raising its damage to like 7 or 8 would make it really good

[ionic gale]

Also would shell shards be a valid ammo option?

[fathom schooner]

No

It shoots MONEY

[severe steeple]

probably not

[ionic gale]

Makes sense ig

[fathom schooner]

Let us manually load it, choose between red, shell, or pearl ammo, and each type slows the projectile but increases damage

Shell rosaries are worth 5, pearl rosary 25

[severe steeple]

I think manually unloading it at a bench is better, I dont want to go into inventory every time I sit

[fathom schooner]

It cant manually load

Otherwise someone will get annoyed their money got eaten by a tool

[severe steeple]

well tools cant manually be crafter

[severe steeple]

you can unload rosaries at a bench if you need them is what im saying

[cerulean sable]

Buff 12 archi silkshot you fucking cowards

[ionic gale]

Option to make it auto refill or not

[fathom schooner]

So it should be manual so the player maintains the agency in loading the gun

[fathom schooner]

Preach

[ionic gale]

Message team cherry for this

[fathom schooner]

Make all silkshots competitive instead of it just being "get railgun duh"

[severe steeple]

no it should be automatic at a bench because its such a pace killer to go into inventory and hold load for 15 seconds every damn bench

[fathom schooner]

Loading guns is slow

[severe steeple]

manually crafting cogflies is probably slower

[fathom schooner]

Cool minigame where you make the tools at a bench

[severe steeple]

cool minigame everytime you use bellbeast where if you fall off you have to walk through the entire tunnel yourself

[ionic gale]

They should make it so like
-architect has VERY high fire rate, but low damage
-forge daughter has large aoe and medium damage
-weaver no change

[ionic gale]

Wait does weaver silkshot go through enemies?

[fathom schooner]

Weaver lets you hold to fire and it gets bigger

Yeah it peirces

[ionic gale]

wait what

[severe steeple]

architect a shotgun, forge daughter a pistol, weavers a railgun

[ionic gale]

I didn't know this

[fathom schooner]

No it should

[severe steeple]

architect slightly higher max damage than forge shooting 3 at once in a shotgun like pattern.

[ionic gale]

Ig they could make it so that the weaver one is like a laser beam-ish, and the more enemies it goes through, the more it's damage, to reward the piercing

[fathom schooner]

It does not do that, it should do that

Let me charge the lazer

[ionic gale]

Ohhh mb

[fathom schooner]

Make architect an actual shotgun cuz its 3 round burst

[ionic gale]

So that it could be used for cleaning hoards of enemies

[severe steeple]

yeah I said that

[fathom schooner]

Screw it architect should be a silk spear launcher

[ionic gale]

Or a machine gun with a 6 round quick burst

[fathom schooner]

Shaman and architect work together to make the pale nail cannon

[ionic gale]

Architect and pale nail synergy

[ionic gale]

Auto correct changed pale to palestine 😭

[severe steeple]

give shaman a yellow tool slot

[fathom schooner]

Hornet makes a bunch of pale nails at the bench, and loads them into the silkshot and then slam fires em

Why would shaman want a useless slot?

[ionic gale]

Lwk exactly what I thought when I read the message

[severe steeple]

once yellow tools arent useless

[fathom schooner]

Lies

Yellow tools will forever be useless

[severe steeple]

you know weavelight, should be yellow and then you can use it

[fathom schooner]

We are doomed to useless yellows

[severe steeple]

no please tc dont make the same mistake

[fathom schooner]

I mean if we get a full rebalance and the blue pool gets split

Then yeah id maybe want a yellow

[ionic gale]

What about weighted belt, compass and silkspeed anklets

[fathom schooner]

Weighted belt is ass

Compass doesn't do anything when im stabbing things

Silkspeed anklets go nyoom

[old compass]

weighted belt i frames is actually usefull sometimes

[severe steeple]

weighted belt should honestly give full knockback reduction, its so unnoticable that I never notice a change

[violet ether]

I wish Spider Strings were as useful as Dream Warrior.

[ionic gale]

And my goat ascendant's grip

[severe steeple]

we need steady body in silksong and weighted belt just is not that

[violet ether]

My muscle memory can't handle Ascendant's Grip.

[ionic gale]

It increases vulnerability frames and reduces recoil(and makes you fall faster)

[civic island]

Wdym

[violet ether]

More specifically, Weighted Belt increases max fall speed, not fall acceleration.,

[ionic gale]

This I can agree with

[civic island]

Untrue

[severe steeple]

inorder to actually feel the effect for real it kinda needs to be 100% knockback reduction

[civic island]

Ye but its like 80%

[severe steeple]

its only 50% I think

[civic island]

Brb i will tell you

[fathom schooner]

Tc patch notes and its just
We buffed weighed belt by 1%

[old compass]

yellow tools be yellow tools, but you're still gonna equip weighted belt and dice for steel soul insurance

[severe steeple]

full list of should be definetly yellow tools but is blue: Wreath of Purity, Weavelight, Spool Extender

[ionic gale]

But ig cuz hornet's needle is like faster n stuff I think it wouldn't make sense to have 0 recoil, maybe an upgraded version of weighted belt that makes you slower but like 98% reduced knockback, and you could kill enemies by falling onto them(kinda like gourmand from rain world)

[worthy lintel]

Are there any enemies you can't heal on for witch and beast crest?

Found this in the code and wondering if it's unused

[silk monolith]

what does weighted belt do?

I have it on cause its the wanderer meta but I js dont know what it does

[ionic gale]

Reduced knockback and increased i frames

[silk monolith]

how does it increase iframes

[old compass]

well it just does

[silk monolith]

so its js steady body

[civic island]

It doesnt say

[old compass]

if steady body and stalwart shell had a child

[unkempt steeple]

When you get hit

[severe steeple]

yeah whatever it is I think it should be 100% reduction

[unkempt steeple]

Like the charm in hk that increases iframes on hit but not as much

[civic island]

Idk man

[severe steeple]

I want to feel the effects of tools

[silk monolith]

OHH its the iframes after getting hit

[unkempt steeple]

I never felt a difference playing with weighted belt

[silk monolith]

nah thats gas

im so goated I never even needed those iframes

[severe steeple]

its like 3 frames anyway

[ionic gale]

Play steel soul

[civic island]

It would be a cool gimmick to stack knockback resistance

The more you hit the more your body gets stronger

[silk monolith]

yeah i did 10hr 30mins

[ionic gale]

Oh cool

[severe steeple]

nah knockback is already so little in this game there is no reason forthat

[civic island]

You may be right

[ionic gale]

What about dealing damage from falling on enemies

[silk monolith]

cause hornets too heavy

[civic island]

Yooo

Maybe the pogo can get more damage

[severe steeple]

that would make it not a yellow tool

[ionic gale]

Those bomb throwers in the deep docks area where flintslate is found

[civic island]

Shush

[old compass]

wtf hornet is mario

[severe steeple]

even that is not that much, hornet has no inertia she doesnt fly across the screen

[ionic gale]

I mean I'd certainly get damaged if a 50 kg spider fell on top of me with a 15 kg belt

[old compass]

pretty sure it's still a yellow tool if contact damage still exists

[civic island]

Tbh i think that sk has many flaws but it's still a great game

[ionic gale]

But The amount of times I dropped into lava cuz of those guys

[severe steeple]

but that would make it an attacking tool and the only attacking tool that deserves to be yellow is barbed baracelet as the exception

[ionic gale]

It's Amazing at its goods and terrible at its bads

[civic island]

Ye

[orchid spruce]

[silk monolith]

sk has a bad of not letting me run a sub 10 hour 100% run

[old compass]

playing games really is just dependent on what you can't stand

[silk monolith]

(its js skill issue)

[civic island]

Sure

[teal ridge]

of course it has flaws. nothing human made is perfect

[civic island]

I think the bosses are a lil bit unbalanced

[silk monolith]

counter point - bilewater

[civic island]

Okay who the hell are you with ur poetical lines

[civic island]

Sure

[ionic gale]

Yeah but the double damage flying enemies throwing me into lava which deals another 2 masks of damage is kinda bad tho

[teal ridge]

im sorrow the bell thrower bug

[civic island]

Sure

[silk monolith]

is it your sea?

[old compass]

I know this statement is true but it kept reminding me of this

[teal ridge]

i do own a sea what about it?

[silk monolith]

I wanna see it right now

this so called sea of sorrow

[unkempt dirge]

I am really curious what sea of sorrow will include lore wise

Because gameplay wise I know it'll be good

[ionic gale]

Say that again......

[old compass]

lore wise if it gives me act 4 I WILL KILL SOMEONE OUT OF PURE RAGE

[static sluice]

The fish crest

[orchid spruce]

summary: wabi sabi

[ionic gale]

It's insane that we're so news starved that we consider a "🤨" reply to be actual news

[unkempt dirge]

but story wise who know what'll be told

[static sluice]

You need to bind wet silk every 5 minutes to avoid suffocating to death

[unkempt dirge]

SO maybe you all should put in your bingo cards on what you think will be confirmed in sea of sorrow

[silk monolith]

wet silk you say

[exotic cedar]

Soggy silk

[static sluice]

Flea brew infused silk

[silk monolith]

muckwater infused

[ionic gale]

Did y'all know that you can throw the flea brew bottle after drinking all the flea bath water

[teal ridge]

silk snorkel

[silk monolith]

ive never had an empty bottle

[teal ridge]

yeah!

[static sluice]

I want to make one for hornet but i don't think it will look good

[silk monolith]

yes it will you should do it

[teal ridge]

you cant know it if you dont do it

[ionic gale]

The only time I had an empty bottle was when I saw this on a yt short and wanted to test it out

[static sluice]

Hmm

Alright

[teal ridge]

making bad things and mistakes are in the path of learning and being better

[ionic gale]

The head would need work but still, try it

[static sluice]

I still have og ena and 2 others to make and my mom keeps saying i should stop because its too much

I mean yeah i made A LOT

[harsh yarrow]

I love that Hollow Shads was literally shitposting

[static sluice]

But it's dirt cheap

[harsh yarrow]

They freaked out when Leth responded

[static sluice]

Not an actual figure with 40$+ shipping

[silk monolith]

its like that one smiling friends clip of the ufo

[static sluice]

Maybe i should make it an overlay like i do with the hair here

Other than that i won't pull it off

[silk monolith]

gyro looking beautiful in any form

[static sluice]

I actually made it
All the other ones on Pinterest were garbage imo

Made johnny too

Alright am getting off track

Ummm sea of sorrow tomorrow

Trust

[static sluice]

I don't think an act 4 is happening

[teal ridge]

its all tomorrow

[static sluice]

The ending of act 3 is perfect

[old compass]

GOOD because I don't want to kill anyone...
...well maybe a little bit

[static sluice]

I can't see an act 4 at all it just wouldn't fit

Unless its like godhome or something

[harsh yarrow]

People don't understand the rule of threes...

[old compass]

I do, because 4 means death in my language

[severe steeple]

but how else will we rid the world of void

[harsh yarrow]

You don't do a four, especially after Act 3s ending

[old compass]

which means I am obligated to kill someone

[static sluice]

Speaking of that

[harsh yarrow]

That is an ending, not a "story will continue"

[brave geyser]

Carol tower heroes.

[static sluice]

In the eventual godhome-like dlc,will it's ending be the canon one

[harsh yarrow]

No

[severe steeple]

yes

[teal ridge]

we need 40 more endings

[harsh yarrow]

Just like HK, there are likely not going to be Canon endings

[brave geyser]

what if i say pretty please

[ionic gale]

But hk had godhome made canon

[harsh yarrow]

Which as much as people like to think, HK has no Canon ending.

[static sluice]

I can't wait to fight " absolute mother silk" something like that
She is SO FUN but very easy

[severe steeple]

but its the real ending

[harsh yarrow]

There's two that aren't, but 3 that are possible

[ionic gale]

And endings like sealed siblings were straight up debunked

[brave geyser]

just varying possibilities
a few months ago someone came up with the possibility that seal breaking silk flies made their way to hallownest to break hornet out in sealed siblings. Then again the possibility of that is really low

[harsh yarrow]

Bih the shadelord?!
It exists in DNM, though it doesn't manifest
Guess what doesn't manifest in Sister of the Void

[teal ridge]

imagine if we could bind all bosses to get powers from them. like after we kill last judge we would get fire power. or getting stealth after killing gurr

[ionic gale]

Only two, dream no more and godhome, because no other ending has the knight being in shade form

[brave geyser]

as for dream no more or embrace the void yea it can be one or the other

[ionic gale]

And even then, it's most likely godhome cuz I'm pretty sure the knight can't switch to shade lord in dream no more as the void isn't in it's true form

[brave geyser]

no way in all hell is gurr stealthy that guy is one massive fat fuck

[old compass]

they can still be canon
we can say that hornet did the weaver queen ending if either Hollow Knight or Sealed Siblings happened
and if Dream No More or Embrace the Void happened, Sister of the Void happens

[teal ridge]

he looks fat because of bush

[unkempt dirge]

2 are possible

[static sluice]

Fat bush

[unkempt dirge]

the everbloom one is one that can't be accounted for

[old compass]

but this also means we will never get confirmation to how tf sealed siblings is canon

[unkempt dirge]

given how strange that one ends

[brave geyser]

yea that one still has the same outcome iam pretty sure

[unkempt dirge]

With embrace the void and dream no more it's pretty cut

[teal ridge]

silksong is the dream of hornet

[static sluice]

We play as hornet's other sibling hornet²

[brave geyser]

Only difference is that godseeker isn't kirked forever

[ionic gale]

Maybe the citadel bugs used like citadel magic to open the black egg to get hornet and doomed hallownest once again

[unkempt dirge]

you realize the knight was inside godseeker right

[ionic gale]

I mean, the weavers WERE known for making and breaking seals

[unkempt dirge]

all of that just bloody got manhandled by the delicate flower

[unkempt dirge]

no they weren't??

[brave geyser]

Hornet motherfucking sentinel omfg
this proves that hornet 2 is NOT greenpath hornet. Especially because you can find hornet 2 waiting in kigs edge even if you haven't fought her in greenpath

[old compass]

yeah it's very much possible considering how we see rune cage technology of pharloom and seal breaking magic, but it is speculation still though

[static sluice]

Hallownest was already far gone
Also the knight was sealed inside and not in shade form

[unkempt dirge]

hornets cage was made out of runes

[ionic gale]

Pretty sure I saw it in a mossbag video that the pale king hired them to make runes for hallownest

[unkempt dirge]

._. what

They aided in the seal of binding

[brave geyser]

that motherfucker did not hire shit he 1000% enslaved them

[old compass]

wait I don't recall mossbag saying that...

[unkempt dirge]

no he didn't??

[static sluice]

Pale king is problematic

[teal ridge]

imagine if a pale being helped to break the egg. like nightmare king grimm

[unkempt dirge]

the nightmare heart isn't a pale being

[brave geyser]

Let me spread propaganda alr bro

[unkempt dirge]

how

[teal ridge]

but he is nightmare king

[ionic gale]

Either mossbag or ccmacai I'm not sure which one

[unkempt dirge]

he's a higher being

[brave geyser]

yea pale king is problematic media

[old compass]

nightmare heart is simular to the radiance

[static sluice]

Just a joke because of the " 1000% enslaved them "

[unkempt dirge]

ccmaci copes a ton

and his video ignores the seals the pale king made that had no part by the weavers

like the dreamer seals, the gigantic powerful seal for the white palace

the grand magical gate that could only be destroyed by having his mark

Etc

[ionic gale]

Ohh

I didn't know about that mb

[brave geyser]

queer's brand

[unkempt dirge]

Besides the seer literally says it's the pale kings work

[unkempt dirge]

._. so far all the higher beings are straight

or unspecified

Green prince would have a queer brand though

[brave geyser]

Ji nine sols

[old compass]

didn't someone say bond between higher beings is rare

that means they're ace-

[unkempt dirge]

no

[ionic gale]

Questionable for the vessels since they feel no emotions due to the void

[unkempt dirge]

tat's not what they meant bro

[unkempt dirge]

well yeah for the vessels they are ace

the vessels are 100% aroace

[unkempt dirge]

To not destroy ANOTHER higher being

[static sluice]

Am not woke enough for this topic

[old compass]

eh similar thing

[unkempt dirge]

The entire point of the pale king that he was exception to the rule of subjugating those around him

[ionic gale]

How you literally have a deltarune pfp

[unkempt dirge]

He wasn't interested in Unn and he let her be

[brave geyser]

Womp womp imo

[ionic gale]

Deltarune is like top 10 most woke games

[unkempt dirge]

Besides all of the weavers gms made are straight

[old compass]

abhiker I know you're slow on satire so I will like to inform you that I'm joking

[unkempt dirge]

Like seriously every single one so far has been shown to be straight to the point that we got 1/8 weavers

[unkempt dirge]

oh

[teal ridge]

wdym? its not

[ionic gale]

There are literally no male weavers tho?????

[unkempt dirge]

They procreated with other species what do you think the 1/8 weaver came from

DId you not read the commandments?

[static sluice]

English is my 2nd language am not familiar with everything

[brave geyser]

you dont have the spirit but you are the brightest keep it going

[unkempt dirge]

I suck at recognising satire man

[brave geyser]

its okay to be a master of something atleast

[unkempt dirge]

"Weaver, in eighth part, last of their line, frail with age.
Tracked and taken in Sandsea Waste.
Seven Choristors, nine Envoys lost to task.?

Weaver, in eighth part, last of their line, mortally wounded.
Tracked and taken in the Blackbarrens.
Four Choristors, one Reed lost to task.?

Weaver, in quarter part, last of their line, staked to service.
Tracked and taken beneath the City of Steel.
Eight Choristors, twelve Envoys lost to task.?"

[ionic gale]

Noelle and Susie are lesbian, rudy and asgore are implied to be gay, ralsei is literally basically a femboy, tenna is gay for Mike what more do you need

[ionic gale]

Ohh alr

[unkempt dirge]

Susie being lesbian at the moment is not yet confirmed and saying asgore is gay is fanon

[unkempt dirge]

Susie likely is lesbian

given their end game with noelle most likely

BUT we'll have to wait and see

[brave geyser]

I'd say there's a high chance of it

[old compass]

deltarune mentioned (it's a miracle I didn't get spoiled about ANYTHING regarding chapter 3 and 4)

[static sluice]

Susie not being lesbian will set the community on eternal flame toby knows that

[old compass]

(I still haven't played them)

[ionic gale]

"He was my Rudolph, I was his Santa"
-Asgore, undertale alarm clock
And also chapter 2 Ferris wheel and chapter 4 noelle's house scenes

[unkempt dirge]

hasn't stopped him before

[static sluice]

Go play

[brave geyser]

should put it in your nickname or something they get brought up here sometimes

local (DON'T SPOIL DELTARUNE)

[old compass]

but toby is the type of person that may want it to happen though, watch world burn

[static sluice]

Heisjwksssgd

[ionic gale]

Alr

[old compass]

maybe

[unkempt dirge]

that literally can be interpreted in a lot of ways, and that isn't enough to say he's bi

We would need more evidence for that to be the case

so far he's staight but later down the road he could be revealed to be bi

[ionic gale]

Idk man seems pretty gay to me

[unkempt dirge]

as a man I think you should know the crazy thing we say

without being actually homosexual

[static sluice]

Asgore is the straightest mf ever

[unkempt dirge]

yeah

[ionic gale]

Also can someone tell me why we arguing if asgore is gay or not this is the silksong discord server

[static sluice]

This guy can't accept that he's actually divorced

[static sluice]

What were we even talking about

[brave geyser]

you can get off topic here

[ionic gale]

Higher beings sexuality

[silk monolith]

tobyfox-discussion

[unkempt dirge]

canonical endings for hollow knight

[static sluice]

Dream no more or embrace the void

[unkempt dirge]

yeah

[silk monolith]

etv

[unkempt dirge]

though it's more likely that embrace the void is more canon

then dnm as the hollow knights shade doesn't appear

[teal ridge]

lets we all embrace the void

[static sluice]

Honestly i headcanon dream no more as canon

[unkempt dirge]

though that is so both endings were viable

[static sluice]

I like it more

[ionic gale]

Flash warning dude

[unkempt dirge]

Idk how to spoiler a gif

[silk monolith]

dream no more is what cracked mask that thing?

[static sluice]

Having hollow alone makes me like dnm more

[ionic gale]

what

[silk monolith]

delete it then

[unkempt dirge]

Hollow knight is a shade like the rest in dnm

the only one where the hollow knight is still around normally is in embrace the void

You're mixing the two up

[silk monolith]

hornet sees knights mask in half that ending is dream no more?

[static sluice]

I mean when they appear as a shade

[ionic gale]

Yeah

[silk monolith]

thats good too

[unkempt dirge]

Well in dream no more they join their siblings as a shade yeah

[silk monolith]

sealed siblings is the worst ending

[static sluice]

After years of torment they get to assist in taking the radiance down

(also their shade looks sick af)

[unkempt dirge]

Listen the canonical endings can't be the ones where the radiance still lives because wtf is the full chamber going to do

they're going to die

[silk monolith]

full chamber? what that means

[thorn pier]

a bunch of choirbugs

[silk monolith]

chamber i hardly know her

[unkempt dirge]

basically the word for a platoon but pharloom

[silk monolith]

im so lost yo say it like im 10 years old

[unkempt dirge]

a chamber is when you have a bunch of guys from pharloom

[old compass]

watch as the radiance and GMS battle inside a single bug's mind trying to take control

imagine being both haunted and infected

[unkempt dirge]

haunting is physical

It's just a bunch of silk puppeetering to poor bastards

[old compass]

well, the chambers who went to capture hornet was haunted right

[unkempt dirge]

The infection would go in and it's do it's magic

[severe steeple]

scuttlebrace is such a dumb tool the best change I can think of is making it also increase the dash distance and speed by like 20%, so not the actual run but the initial dash

[old compass]

so like, gms tries to control the legs of the haunted bugs, while radiance controls the upper body

and the bugs just goes into full delirium

[unkempt dirge]

the infection infects the very mind of the individual

and takes away their intelligience and will and basically everything

and then goes on to deform said bodies

unless you're from the whiteward your body won't be deformed by silk

[short trout]

Give me a boss to no hit and a crest to use I'm kinda bored

[unkempt dirge]

Okay radiance on radiant

with the crest of the knight

[short trout]

💀

No but fr

[unkempt dirge]

I was being fr

[silk monolith]

I feel like being haunted is scarier

[unkempt dirge]

go no hit the absolute radiance

[silk monolith]

no pun intended

[unkempt dirge]

how

The infection is objectively far worse

and far more dangerous

[silk monolith]

"Strange, sad memories, not my own, and my own thoughts smothered amidst the tangle." pavo says this and I think its scarier than having a sun moth in your dreams and you relinquishing control

[night vector]

Guys do we have some news ?

[unkempt dirge]

you realize the horrific dream nail dialogue

"I'm not...Dead..
Am I...Sleeping?"

"That sweet smell...Burns...
I can't....Wake up..."

"Maddened by massive infection. Charges at enemies with no thought for its own preservation."

"The bugs of Hallownest were twisted out of shape by that ancient sickness. First they fell into deep slumber, then they awoke with broken minds, and then their bodies started to deform..."

"the harder you struggled against it, the more it consumed you."

[wicked cedar]

SEA OF SORROW IS SUBNAUTICA 2 TRUST

[short trout]

Okay I tried Seth again

[cerulean sable]

SHARPDART NATIONNNN

[old compass]

*yoinks your strategy for steel soul

[exotic dome]

don't risk steel soul to fight nyleth

take other 3 hearts

[old compass]

I'm doing all mementos though (already did steel heart)

[plucky stag]

Imagine if sea of sorrow is just bugnautica

[exotic dome]

oh ok

[plucky stag]

Minus the survival aspects

[old compass]

seth basically holds 3 mementos now because he also counts for hunters journal (at least, I think?)

[silk monolith]

yes he does

[lavish apex]

seth isn't thaaaaat hard

[silk monolith]

its faster if you do the other 3

also no one can access nyleths temple thing in my recent save lmao

[old compass]

I'm pretty sure doing seth is faster than green price

[plucky stag]

But is it safer?

[old compass]

I need all my mementos

or maybe not because I'm not motivated rn

I am more motivated to play minecraft

[wicked cedar]

Silksong 2

[wicked cedar]

Have you played deltarune?

[terse lance]

guys

i just beat seth

[wicked cedar]

Nice

[terse lance]

and aside from the screen being very blurry

i realised something

i have gotten significantly good at hk and sk

( hk was my 1st indie and metroidvania game)

took me a month or 2 to beat hk

and im nearly done with act 3 of silksong

in a month and a half

[whole forge]

nyleth's the easiet to to beat tho

well second easiest. first being king krust

[terse lance]

u don't die in steel soul

[old compass]

have you considered death

[terse lance]

in memories

[wicked cedar]

😰

[old compass]

sorry I worded that wrong, I'll make it up for you
*gives you this cookie 🍪

[wicked cedar]

My emojis werent loading what it this 😭😭

[glossy grotto]

hollowdance

[exotic dome]

steel soul doesn't end if you die in memory, nyleth is the only heart that has a mandatory non-memory boss fight before it so i didn't risk it in my steel soul save personally

[glossy grotto]

guys lets have a non productive gender debate about bug 218# again

[orchid spruce]

who could this egsong person be

almightyeggnog

[exotic dome]

silknog

[orchid spruce]

[vale whale]

https://tenor.com/view/alan-wake-alan-wake-staring-stare-looking-at-you-yetiwater-gif-1942791521945142817

[lavish apex]

is verdania actually faster than karm/sethleth?

in like any route

[exotic dome]

probably not

but it's faster than coral tower

[ivory loom]

why did ominous music suddenly start playing

am i cooked?

[orchid spruce]

deep fried

[exotic dome]

yeah good luck

[ivory loom]

ah shid

[exotic cedar]

Prepare for peak

[orchid spruce]

Gauntlets will never be peak

They can only be good

[exotic dome]

forum is peak

i would put it in S tier if it was in a boss tier list

[ivory loom]

bruh...im fighting every damn enemy

[orchid spruce]

It is a good gauntlet though, probably the best gauntlet I fought

Just imagine maidenclaws were turned off

[raw pawn]

Guys what the hell is hornet doing in silksong

[raw pawn]

I thought she was from hollow knight

[frosty kelp]

maidenclaws = free silk

[orchid spruce]

why are we lying

[frosty kelp]

spogo material

no genuiney tho 😭

spogo material

[raw pawn]

But they can still steal yours

[orchid spruce]

[frosty kelp]

in a normal run sure but in hhg the maidenclaws are free silk

definitely prioritise killing them or else free silk turns into debt

[orchid spruce]

so still a nuisance

[frosty kelp]

yeah pretty much

[raw pawn]

Idk why but I remember when they threw the silk back at me in older patches and I didn't get hit I got silk back somehow?

[frosty kelp]

if you spogo them fast enough then they are basically free silk tho

[silk monolith]

why do you need free silk

[frosty kelp]

do people know what spogoing is yet

[frosty kelp]

witch bind for the choral clappers

[orchid spruce]

yes

[raw pawn]

Sawtooth circlet pogo?

[frosty kelp]

yeah that's correct

[ivory loom]

BRO SCREW TS

when will it END

[orchid spruce]

no one bothers learning that though

[frosty kelp]

get sawtooth and witch crest and they all cooked

[frosty kelp]

it's easy tho 😭

[orchid spruce]

like 20 waves

[frosty kelp]

nah 11

[ivory loom]

all i got is beastcrest and wanderer 🥀

[silk monolith]

if you dont got enough silk without maidens it might be a skill issue

[frosty kelp]

dang

[silk monolith]

no reaper?

[ivory loom]

oh ye that too

[silk monolith]

lmaoo

[ivory loom]

tbf that shi is forgettable

[frosty kelp]

I'd say use beast then cus the pogo is kinda busted

if you don't like beast pogo then I just recommend wanderer and clawline the maidens

[orchid spruce]

oh yeah, my first playthrough, i basically had nothing except hunter and reaper until like 80%

[silk monolith]

high halls with beast is a joke

[frosty kelp]

sounds about right

[orchid spruce]

[frosty kelp]

makes sense

[silk monolith]

chat should I shave or should I not shave

[orchid spruce]

depends

[frosty kelp]

if that were the case then illu's problem with crests will really show

cus crests give you a specific playstyle and force you to play it

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-bite-biting-gif-14228286

[frosty kelp]

you can't really change the playstyle of a crest

[silk monolith]

what that means

[frosty kelp]

and since you're locked into 2 playstyles for the whole game it must have been annoying

[orchid spruce]

no, i liked reaper a lot

[silk monolith]

reaper I hardly know her

[frosty kelp]

oh ok

[orchid spruce]

cute gif for free dopamine

[frosty kelp]

good for you

I personally don't enjoy reaper

oh my gosh yuki

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/nuance-it-depends-this-is-my-nuance-hat-context-award-sickwithnv-gif-7691697574266980839

i found the correct gif

[frosty kelp]

bro dropped yuki before this one

[silk monolith]

reaper I used on my first playthrough cause I did not like the diagonal pogo

[frosty kelp]

that's fair

[orchid spruce]

[frosty kelp]

but eventually you'll realise hunter is the goat

[orchid spruce]

hunter is the goat indeed

[silk monolith]

and then i got used to it and 2nd run did everything eith hunter and got the 30hr achievement

[frosty kelp]

once you get all upgrades hunter becomes the GOAt