sk-discussion

[flat mason]

So cute

[vestal igloo]

cute to me

[old raft]

POSHANKA

[cerulean sable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/662500313130991617/1088833635030945833/goodmorningchat.gif

[fickle nexus]

yo how do yall replay games like ss and hk after beating them bc theyve just been sitting on my shelves for a WHILE now

[old compass]

❌

[fickle nexus]

wdym no

like no replay?

[old compass]

didn't even 100% achievement HK and I haven't touch it since 2 years ago

[fickle nexus]

or no to smth else

[fickle nexus]

oh

[flat mason]

I don't

You can try different crests on silksong tho

[fickle nexus]

eh i tried that, i only really fw beast and hunter

reaper and wanderer felt js kinda eh

and i barely touched act 3

[flat mason]

I see I see

[fickle nexus]

yeah

its a pickle, and ive been tryna get some monion for a summer sale, since ive got quite a few games i wanna check out

[flat mason]

I don't tend to replay stuff unless there's some cool new modes or new characters unlocked when you beat the game

[fickle nexus]

thats fair

[orchid spruce]

silksong is pretty replayable bc of good mechanics and variety of things to try

at least i think

[fickle nexus]

true

[orchid spruce]

first playthrough kinda stinks but it gets better on a second

[fickle nexus]

for stuff like ultrakill i honestly always come back to it due to the cybergrind

[orchid spruce]

ultrakill is everywhere

[fickle nexus]

itd be nice to not constantly look at guides

[flat mason]

I just played the demo, but I see why lmao

[fickle nexus]

cuz oh my god i CONSTANTLY did it with hk and silksong

went in like 95% blind on nine sols and it was SO PEAK

[orchid spruce]

[fickle nexus]

95% bc of badge hunting and stuff

[orchid spruce]

ender lilies also has great exploration

and easy to 100% without a guide

[flat mason]

[orchid spruce]

combat is pretty mediocre thogh

but it's still pretty good

[fickle nexus]

one thing i really dislike about hk and ss is the combat sometimes is js hit and run, and the map does look really good, but its so annoying to traverse through

i wish that there was at least a built in wanderers compass

[orchid spruce]

grime also has good combat but traversal is p annoying

i havent played that metroidvanias yet

oh yeah, mio

mio needs a guide to 100% though hm

[flat mason]

Silksong's compass atleast is a yellow tool. But definitely is an unusual choice overall from TC

[fickle nexus]

whats TC?

[flat mason]

Team Cherry, the studio

[fickle nexus]

whats MIO?

[fickle nexus]

ooh okay makes sense

[flat mason]

memories in orbit, a metroidvania

[orchid spruce]

memories in orbit

[fickle nexus]

oh aight cool

[flat mason]

arrgh I don't have perms

[orchid spruce]

the best metroidvania

[fickle nexus]

and then nine sols walks in

[orchid spruce]

both are my favourites

[fickle nexus]

oh my god Eigong was so peak

[orchid spruce]

ikr

[fickle nexus]

i got true ending and it was SO worth it

[fickle nexus]

i was like in tears when i got the true ending

[orchid spruce]

it did move me a little

and i rarely feel much when playing games

[fickle nexus]

same here

i didnt care at all for the another crabs treasure MC throughout the story ngl(fun game though) but nine sols felt different

[orchid spruce]

crabs treasure?

[flat mason]

How could you, he's so cute

[fickle nexus]

it was so compelling to see how the MC(cant remember the guys name) went from seeing shaunshaun as a nuisaunce, to like almost, a son to him, and it was so sad seeing the guy who would go against the village(beer belly guy) got some of his limbs flat out smacked off by like grade 6 enemies, ofc i aired em all out ASAP for my day 1s

[fickle nexus]

i know but it js lwk didnt feel compelling, def a funny story about tax fraud

[odd hull]

Souslike

[fickle nexus]

yeah by aggro crab(same people who made peak with landfall)

[orchid spruce]

bruh

[fickle nexus]

its a fun game

you should check it out when you can

[orchid spruce]

i am limited in my metroidvania bubble

[fickle nexus]

its fun to take a break from metroidvanias every now and then

[orchid spruce]

a self-made prison

[plucky stag]

me too

[orchid spruce]

i am still on my metroidvania grind

[plucky stag]

and weirdly enough that was after a 5 month break between attempts at the true final boss

[fickle nexus]

oh damn

[plucky stag]

hi towel by the way

[orchid spruce]

ello

[plucky stag]

you know what, i'm not gonna wait until i have a hungry queue

i'll just post my backlog and let you pick out which ones are good

[orchid spruce]

i only played like 7 mvs

[fickle nexus]

i went in all with no breaks spanning longer then a week, and it was REALLY fun

[odd hull]

Fairs

[orchid spruce]

but i guess i can try

[fickle nexus]

game for sure had its challenges though

[odd hull]

I don't remember how many I have played uhhh

[plucky stag]

fire away

[odd hull]

Lemme check

[plucky stag]

i do have a few obscure titles in there that i saw some streamers play once and thought it looked pretty

[orchid spruce]

yep finished none of those

[fickle nexus]

it was sometimes a bitch, sometimes goated with the enemies(in a good way on bitch)

[orchid spruce]

i know noita and dead cells, dropped them pretty quick

the rest i dunno

[plucky stag]

makes sense

[orchid spruce]

haiku is pretty good i heard

[plucky stag]

because all the really popular games i've already played in the past few years

[orchid spruce]

cutesy platforming

[plucky stag]

so what's left are the second tier games

[odd hull]

A Hat in Time!!!!

[orchid spruce]

bo and path lotus dwarfs in nine sols' shadows

[opaque sigil]

I assume you know my opinions on sts2 and blue prince, spiritfarer I'll say is a banger

[orchid spruce]

which is unfortunate

[plucky stag]

this is my resume so far (population: 27)

what do you think

[odd hull]

TUNIC!!!!

[plucky stag]

currently playing sts2; my "win condition" (to take it off my backlog) is when i finish the game at least once with all 5 characters

[odd hull]

The greatest media ever created

[orchid spruce]

you played more mvs than me

how could you ask me for advice

[plucky stag]

really?

[orchid spruce]

i played 7

[plucky stag]

i swear i have less than 7

[odd hull]

The best thing humanity invented

[plucky stag]

name them

[orchid spruce]

oh i acually didnt count

i just saw ori 1 2 tunic and all that which i never finished

you have 7 too

[sly sigil]

Which student of goddamn satan designed bilewater??????

[plucky stag]

is tunic really a metroidvania

[orchid spruce]

no 8

[plucky stag]

i wouldn't classify it as that

[orchid spruce]

isnt tunic a metroidvania

[odd hull]

It was me. Sorry

[orchid spruce]

well if we dont count tunic, its 7

[plucky stag]

it's not in my eyes; but if i am wrong i stand corrected

[plucky stag]

what are the 7

[odd hull]

I don't think it is

[sly sigil]

What are yall talking about?

[orchid spruce]

ugh mio 9s sk hk ori12 animalwell

[plucky stag]

apparently according to towel i've finished 7 metroidvanias

[odd hull]

It's bc Tunic is inspired by Zelda, and Zelda inspired the first metroidvania so yk

They share similarities

[plucky stag]

that's not very strong logic

[orchid spruce]

unless you count ori1 as zeldalike instead

[odd hull]

How so

[plucky stag]

you gain abilities there and it lets you explore previous areas

[orchid spruce]

ouh okie

so 7, yeah

i gotta ramp up my gaming instead of yapping

[plucky stag]

tunic doesn't really pass the metroidvania smell test; it's far closer to zelda than metroid (not to mention there is a far bigger emphasis on puzzles than things like exploration)

[odd hull]

I think you got my point wrong

[plucky stag]

and that is

[odd hull]

TUNIC isn't a metroidvania, it just happens to share the same foundation

[plucky stag]

that i will agree with; thank you for clarifying

[odd hull]

[violet ether]

I have Ori & the Will of the Wisps downloaded. I have it downloaded in my Steam Deck. Someone @ me to finally play it.

[plucky stag]

@violet ether play ori 2 now

[violet ether]

Later.

[odd hull]

lmao

[orchid spruce]

ori is like neon lights

[violet ether]

In all seriousness, I fear I'll never enjoy it when I'll be constantly compairing it to Silksong.

[plucky stag]

i have 26 in my backlog now, but i have 2 in my wishlist

[plucky stag]

i felt the same way when i played the ori duology in 2022

[orchid spruce]

but it feels empty

[plucky stag]

i was afraid that hollow knight would spoil my experience but it didn't

[odd hull]

That is a sad way to play something

[plucky stag]

just try your best to enjoy every game on its own terms

[violet ether]

I've been told OatWotW (boy, that's a mouthful of an abbreviation) somewhat mimics the Soulsborne-Metroidvania formula.

[orchid spruce]

just say ori2

[odd hull]

The what

[orchid spruce]

it's more of a zeldalike-metroidvania

[plucky stag]

worldless and until then

so my true population should be 28, but i don't count them as part of my backlog until they've been purchased and in my library

[orchid spruce]

play ender lilies

[violet ether]

It's not something I want to do, but if I recently played another Silksong save file from start to finish today and I'm considering doing a full Hunter crest run next save file, maybe I'm still having a Silksong craze.

[flat remnant]

i found an old file in my google drive

this must have been from 2023 or two

[violet ether]

I dunno. Sea of Sorrow is at least 6 months away, so I'd surely have time to reinvigorate with ANOTHER start-to-finish save file of Silksong.

[flat mason]

Listen to towel, he is always right !!
except when he's wrong

[flat remnant]

now that i've watched breaking bad and better call saul i think there are better options

[violet ether]

Maybe OatWotW will have better trinket balance than Silksong.

[orchid spruce]

[flat mason]

[orchid spruce]

Oh trust me, there are a ton of good games out there

Many you may enjoy more than Silksong

[flat mason]

Oh god

[violet ether]

I've been playing Beast Crest for so long, I barely even knew what to do with all these blue tool slots when I was doing my Witch main run today.

[odd hull]

+Aria of Sorrow, Harmony of Dissonance

10 MVs yeeey

[violet ether]

Croshaw said that Ender Lilies & Magnolia has the protagonist use equippable stands.

[odd hull]

Yeah

[violet ether]

I've also heard Ender Lilies uses motion tween animation instead of frame-by-frame.

[odd hull]

Protagonists themselves don't attack, u equip a bunch of different spirits

[odd hull]

Yep

[violet ether]

Croshaw said the defeating, purifying, & summoning of bosses is rather effective as a method of storytelling.

[plucky stag]

6 months is a bit pessimistic

[golden wave]

im getting flashbacks to a certain character in the first game

[plucky stag]

I am firmly predicting midsummer (so in 4-6 weeks)

[violet ether]

Little Fool or Nosk?

[odd hull]

Croshaw knows everything

[violet ether]

Ah, you know Croshaw too? He's a favorite of mine.

[plucky stag]

All I want is no clashing with deltarune chapter 5

[odd hull]

I don't, but everything said is correct

[violet ether]

I wonder if I should straight-up restrain myself from playing Silksong when it means I'll gain some rust to properly appreciate Pharloom Bay.

[old compass]

too bad what lies ahead is worse than nosk

[violet ether]

I'll wish the Pharloom Bay merchant will sell silver or pearl Rosary Necklaces.

[violet ether]

They have Wreath of Purity. They'll be fine.

[old compass]

wait you're right

nvm beat his ass

[odd hull]

Make a save with just 2 needle upgrades too

[violet ether]

Nah. I'll just play fresh.

[old compass]

tbh I don't have motivation to play steel soul all mementos...

funny how seth basically holds 3 of them lol

because I think he counts for the hunters journal?

[odd hull]

true

[old compass]

I think?

[orchid spruce]

i aint paying for a 2hour game sis

im too broke

[fervent bough]

What do you guys think is the most disappointing fight in the entire game

[old compass]

game too expensive for 2 hour experience

[vivid belfry]

3 hour game? 🥺

[old compass]

not buying it until it gives me that -70%

[plucky stag]

Sounds like a good idea, but not for me

[odd hull]

You don't deserve peak

[orchid spruce]

🙁

[fervent bough]

I think Pintress is the most disappointing

[plucky stag]

I want to get steel heart before any dlcs drop so I can claim the achievement when it was at its most difficult

[orchid spruce]

all that buildup for a shit fight

[old compass]

why play this weird oo game when I can buy an actually good metroidvania for 0.6 dollars

[fervent bough]

I thought she was gonna be a badass swordswoman but all she does is float

No wonder she asked to fight you in Mount fay

[violet ether]

I wish Needle Arts were as good as Nail Arts.

[odd hull]

Huh

[old compass]

that has 8 hours of gameplay

[zealous sky]

I was gonna get this game soon lol

[mystic phoenix]

it would be better if it wasnt just single one

[odd hull]

It's Öoo. Respect the name

[fervent bough]

How much does it cost

[odd hull]

The name is cute, looks like the MC!!

[mystic phoenix]

i mean we already have the dash attack but still

[violet ether]

Or if Pinstress Badge were either yellow or not-shit.

[undone saffron]

hallo chat

[plucky stag]

Isn't that the setting of adventure time

[odd hull]

Idk I'm brazilian

[plucky stag]

The land of ooo

[odd hull]

LMAO

[fervent bough]

Just say it in your currency

[violet ether]

Why does Beast's Needle Art have very long startup lag in ADDITION to long charge time?

[odd hull]

R$32,99

[odd hull]

Heloo

[fervent bough]

That's only $2. Not bad at all

I'll buy it and try it out

[still osprey]

all needle strikes have the same charge time do they not

[orchid spruce]

It's 10$ for america

[old compass]

it costs as much as silksong iirc

[fervent bough]

Oh wait I'm thinking of south African currency

[orchid spruce]

half

[odd hull]

lol

[fervent bough]

$10 isn't bad at all imo

[orchid spruce]

me poor

[fervent bough]

I spent that much on a mod pack for Minecraft

[violet ether]

Yeah, but my point is that Beast's Needle art has long startup lag. I really question why it's necessary when it makes performing the attack that much more difficult.

[orchid spruce]

me makes 0.8$ per hour

broke

[fervent bough]

Download try

My mom uses it to make money during her retirement

[old compass]

ok I remember wrong

[fervent bough]

Playing mobile games

I remember she made $700 playing monopoly Go

[old compass]

but 10 dollars for 2 hours is a turn away ngl

[fervent bough]

In about 2 months

[fervent bough]

Ehh I mean it's about the price of a coffee

Which is less then 2 hours of enjoyment

[orchid spruce]

damn

i want money

[fervent bough]

I draw the line at expensive games though.

[old compass]

if you charge 10 dollars a coffee where I live that's fickin 70 for me

[shell tapir]

Who pays 10 dollars for a coffee

[fervent bough]

Americans

[orchid spruce]

coffee is like 1$ a cup here

[fervent bough]

It's expensive here

[orchid spruce]

[odd hull]

Idk how much coffe costs. I don't like it

[orchid spruce]

i like milk coffee

[old compass]

5 dollars at best

[fervent bough]

I remember going to Taco Bell and I got like 4 items and next thing I know im paying $40

[orchid spruce]

isnt america minimum wage like $10 per hour

thats decent

[fervent bough]

$7.25

I think is the minimum wage

[orchid spruce]

ooo

öoo, i meant

[old compass]

american gets paid more but stuff costs more too

[odd hull]

I was about to say aargh

[fervent bough]

Our economy has gone to hell

It's awfully expensive here now

[old compass]

the world's economy is shitty rn

[ocean coral]

Depends on the state too

[fervent bough]

Gas is like $6 a gallon in Louisiana rn

[old compass]

watch my dad get scammed 10k from stocks

[fervent bough]

I've never even seen it above $2 and suddenly it's 6

[old compass]

(we told him not to invest)

[fervent bough]

But I think that's because of the war

[old compass]

HE DID IT ANYWAYS

[fervent bough]

Either way things are expensive

[fervent bough]

Dads are just like that

Go big or go home/lose your home

[odd hull]

I like chocolate milk or whatever the name is

[old compass]

watch him be near retirement so now he stays at home more

[orchid spruce]

same

[old compass]

to yell at me more

[fervent bough]

I'm off have a good one

[odd hull]

I just call it Nescau

[odd hull]

Byeee

[orchid spruce]

@fervent bough allegedly if i play this aigenerated game enough, i earn 3$

👋 byebye

[fervent bough]

What in the world is this

[odd hull]

You will be losing 3$ by playing that

[old compass]

WHAT R U PLAYING

[timid sky]

this shit is glass

[orchid spruce]

ugh ikr, the app gave me that

the Try app you mentioned

i want money

[fervent bough]

These are my offers

One of them goes up to $1,600

[orchid spruce]

me from poor country, me get poor offers

i have 3 games

[fervent bough]

I usually just cash in Google play cards since I don't like to wait

[orchid spruce]

3$ 3$ and 0.3$

never can escape labor abuse

[odd hull]

Money in games always looks so scary

[fervent bough]

Yes I used to think to was a scam

It took a lot to convince me just to download it a few years back

[odd hull]

lmao no one would be able to convince me into downloading it

[cerulean sable]

should we torture someone by forcing them to play Gardenscape for 2047 hours

[fervent bough]

This is my current account after around 3 months I think?

I dunno I'm lazy and don't use it often

[odd hull]

The worst part about this isn't the suspicious looking presentation

[fervent bough]

I like it for when I just wanna get a new game or something. I cash app it and use that basically

[odd hull]

Is having to play monopoly

[fervent bough]

My next payout for monopoly is $90

[odd hull]

[orchid spruce]

it gives less money to poor countries

[fervent bough]

I have an unlimited amount of time so there's no rush tbh

[orchid spruce]

regional pricing

[odd hull]

lol

[fervent bough]

It's because I'm a long time member

[orchid spruce]

okie me trust, me want easy money

[fervent bough]

They gave me the early access dev build on my main account

[orchid spruce]

moneu

[fervent bough]

Since I've basically played all the games

All the good ones anyway

[odd hull]

Talking about money, I'm looking to get a job. Hope I can finally build a new pc sometime soon

[fervent bough]

Back in the glory days of the app you could just make money with pack purchases and didnt even need to play the shitty games

Spend $1 and make back $6

But they patched this since the games their partnered with weren't actually getting players. People would just keep investing in the daily packs and wouldn't actually play

Which is what I used to do too lol

Anyways I don't get anything out of it unless I share and invite link. So I don't really care if people play it or not

[fervent bough]

What kinda pc are you gonna build

With the whole ai situation it's so expensive to build now

[odd hull]

I'm still searching what I can realistically get yk

[tepid birch]

Is architect crest genuinrly that busted because it seems fun but i dont want to cheese evruthing or idk

[fervent bough]

It's busted if you have enough resources

[odd hull]

I just want to play Elden Ring's DLC well

[fervent bough]

You rely on shard bundles. Basically

[fervent bough]

I feel you on that one. I haven't played the dlc either

[violet ether]

Okay, NOW I'm playing OatWotW.

[trim estuary]

shadow of the erdtree is so good

[violet ether]

-# Ori's titles are a bit of a mouthful, even as an abbreviation.

[fervent bough]

I don't even know what you're talking about

It's like you spoke gibberish lol

[orchid spruce]

[fervent bough]

You need better games brother

[orchid spruce]

it only gives me three

[fervent bough]

I wouldn't touch those with a ten foot pole 😂

[orchid spruce]

no other options

[odd hull]

Ori 2 I think

[orchid spruce]

[fervent bough]

They have a discord if you wanna talk about it there

[fervent bough]

I have no idea why you only have 3 games

Even my mother started with monopoly go

Which is the easiest game to earn on

I've almost hit the maximum $730 payout on it

Also they pay you instantly. No jumping through hoops or extra steps etc

[orchid spruce]

this game is hurting my brain

[odd hull]

I feel like it's one of the only AAA demanding stuff I plan on playing

[orchid spruce]

poor country E-E

[odd hull]

And Lies of P uhh Armored Core maybe

[fervent bough]

Shows up in your email when you redeem cards. Or straight to your PayPal/Cash app if you like that. Basically they have everything under the sun

It's a company based it Norway

[fervent bough]

The main game I wanna play this year is subnautica 2

I was watching caseoh play it and it's beautiful

[orchid spruce]

My brain is actively hurting

Maybe the game is too smart for me 🤓

[fervent bough]

DM me and send me a pic of what your app looks like

[orchid spruce]

okie

[fervent bough]

Theres two different sections you can find games

I'll show you what my own app looks like

[odd hull]

Hope you have fun!
I'm not into it, but one of my friends is a big fan of Subnautica 1. Now I need to prepare myself and listen to the guy talking about it 24h every day

[golden wave]

this game is proof that god left us

[old compass]

just let him eat you (it's a viable strategy)

(which is crazy)

[mental snow]

Is current version stable for mods or do I need to downpatch?

[sharp slate]

current version should be fine

[mental snow]

Alright, thank you

[topaz stone]

if only u could hit him while inside for double damage

[mental snow]

Also for some reason the modding help Cogfly link just ain't working for me so GitHub it is

[golden wave]

is this a good build for him?

[vivid belfry]

stake vessels are a pain in the ass to use in his arena

[blazing heart]

Should not have died at Cogwork Dancers

[mental snow]

Oh the 1 in 10000 chance for the Withered Foxy jumpscare mod is a must have

[split lodge]

Change the stakes to balls and throw it whenever groal starts sucking

That sounded so weird but here we are

[split lodge]

As a steel soul player I’ll tell you to never go into bilewater or fight GTG without being overdosed on plasmium

Just hide in the water

[mental snow]

So am I supposed to see the mods in the top right of the screen?
Because I don't see them

[formal mural]

fixed your message /lh

[split lodge]

In my many playthroughs never had I fought groal honourably and I’m proud of that decision

[formal mural]

FUCK that guy

[mental snow]

Why do you wanna fuck that guy?

[formal mural]

i don't

[mental snow]

But you said that you were gonna

[formal mural]

unless it ends in him being brutally killed

with hammers

[mental snow]

Okay, bit kinky there/j

[formal mural]

lmao

groal had me pulling out the armstrong quotes

[mental snow]

Okay the mods work, I can poshanka

Just can't see them in the top left for some reason

[formal mural]

YOU KNOW WHAT❓FUCK THIS WAR🗣️I JUST WANT YOU DEAD‼️🔥

[mental snow]

I just crit twice in a row

[formal mural]

i just crit the jack pot

[mental snow]

Lmaoo

[formal mural]

what would the silksong equivalent of cryforme x jackpot x whateverthefuckelse be

[mental snow]

Also thankfully, I installed the infinite Rosaries and Shell Shards mod so I don't need to kill everything in sight

[golden wave]

aight

ima get plasmium rq and come back

[mental snow]

Uhhh Sherma's Song x Idfk Trobbio? x Hornet's Song-send for Shakra's master

[formal mural]

awakening x widow x cut through x hornet but sloppily converted into 4/4

[mental snow]

Okay does anyone know what the "All Crests crit" mod raised the chances to

That feels like a 1 in 4, I swear

[pastel plank]

Ngl today I beat him for the second time in my life, second tried this shi

[pastel plank]

I used sharpdart

[pastel plank]

Imo opinion it's an awesome ability for this fight

[split lodge]

Plasmium and fractured mask reduces steel soul’s difficulty by so much it’s kinda laughable

[pastel plank]

Also I highly advise using Hunter's crest. Pogoing becomes enormously simplirr

[golden wave]

Oh i was just using reaper

wanted to try it out

[pastel plank]

Yeah I see it haha

[still osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1498976377645432892/2026-04-29_12-16-24.mp4?ex=6a0f764a&is=6a0e24ca&hm=a5fe7a1eadff1913e51d409f11a2f0a92518bc6970331827487f5a42440dfd40&

[formal mural]

i used architect's crest and lowkautsplatultrakestrogenuleniwheatley just hitboxed his ass with needle strike

[golden wave]

i tried it earlier on first sinner and did it so quick 💔

[golden wave]

i havent even gotten architects crest 😭

[still osprey]

I only now realized bro died so fast I didn't even get full hunter focus 😭

[mental snow]

The double enemy arenas are gonna be the death of me

Also wtf did they raise these crit chances to, holy

[formal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-clashroyale-angry-gif-5302587

[split lodge]

Archi strike is just aura farming

[pastel plank]

Literally almost what I was using but I'm at 1 upgrade, 6 masks and I used different tools

[golden wave]

yall think this good

[formal mural]

you say that but it literally felt like life or death during that fight

life or 5 month runback

[pastel plank]

I would use sharpdart

[pastel plank]

Imo thread storm might be frustrating for Groal himself

[pastel plank]

Cause you stun yourself in the air

[golden wave]

yeah thats for the start

[orchid spruce]

and Groal loves levitating slightly and unpredictably

[golden wave]

im planning to just play extremely passively

[orchid spruce]

[pastel plank]

Yes

It's actually a problem with most flying enemies in both HKs

[orchid spruce]

but threadstorm is good for the gauntlet

[golden wave]

this is basically all my red tools

[pastel plank]

With Groal it is just more apparent

[still osprey]

It's actually impressive how non-threatening Groal is 😭 like bro if my most dangerous attack was bumping into someone I'd just end it all right then and there 😭

[pastel plank]

I used straight pins and automotons today

Cogflies, jeez

[orchid spruce]

I could have enjoyed Silksong a bit more if I was actually good at games back then, I think

I want to replay but Moss Grotto says no

[pastel plank]

I'd take off the magnet and compass also

[golden wave]

dont got much i could replace it with

im really broke on tools lmao wow

[pastel plank]

True

[orchid spruce]

use the wallet

[pastel plank]

That's gonna show him

[golden wave]

nah its fine

i got silk eaters just incase

[orchid spruce]

you can delay picking up your silk

with this wallet as insurance

[pastel plank]

Also there's some silk at the top of the arena

[orchid spruce]

to reduce loss, just in case

I know

[pastel plank]

Before the arena I mean

[orchid spruce]

I know 95% stuff about this game

[pastel plank]

I've been playing for like 13 hours re-exploring everything. Prior to that I beat the game like 3 times after my first playthrough but only on the WQ ending

[pastel plank]

And

This time I didn't pick up a single map

And it's truly interesting

[strange knot]

I don’t pick up maps unless it’s for really good way to lock progression

[pastel plank]

I guess unfortunately I can't force myself to forget most of the stuff, cause I already know how most of the areas are composed lol

Apart from some minor places like frayed rosary necklace spots

[still osprey]

I wonder how much silksong trivia I know like after ~350h, double digit 100% playthroughs and even multiple max% playthroughs, how much more about this game do I have to learn

[orchid spruce]

The map is pretty linear

[pastel plank]

Hahahahahaah

[strange knot]

Only 350h? I thought you had way more ngl

[pastel plank]

I have like 150 maybe lol

[strange knot]

I have like 550 prob

[still osprey]

Don't worry the number will skyrocket the moment dlc and rando comes out 🔥

[exotic cedar]

I have something like 339

[pastel plank]

Rando is out I believe?

[torpid swift]

what if there's secretly a feature that turns hornet green but you don't know it yet

[orchid spruce]

woah, fake silksong hater

[pastel plank]

Isn't it?

[still osprey]

Yea I have 344 hours

[orchid spruce]

kill this guy

[still osprey]

Not a good one

[exotic cedar]

Its actually 340... I'm sorry for lying guys

[pastel plank]

Guess the room

Since you're so well-informed

[torpid swift]

I don't play the game much. Usually I only play it for 1 playthrough, so I only got one with 60 hours in it LOL

[pastel plank]

Hahahaha

[still osprey]

Posted in r/Silksong by u/hollow_masterblock

[exotic cedar]

The more i play the more hatred for it grows

[pastel plank]

I took a long pause from the game

[torpid swift]

what's this

[orchid spruce]

[mental snow]

Double Bell Beast nearly had me at the end. Even though the crit mod put in hella work, I probably still woulda pulled through

[pastel plank]

Secret area locked behind 1067 hours of silksongs

[torpid swift]

6777

[pastel plank]

You can only open it at 9875% completelion

[orchid spruce]

you cant just say 67

[exotic cedar]

Actually i don't hate silksong it's pretty cool game but it has is flaws

[pastel plank]

Completelion son I'm crine 😭

[strange knot]

https://tenor.com/view/fourth-chorus-silksong-hollow-knight-boss-hornet-gif-13663543939265240984

[exotic cedar]

Like very visible flaws

[pastel plank]

That's why I didn't

[mental snow]

OH GOD, SILKSONG REALLY LETS YOU TURN DOWN THE QUALITY

[pastel plank]

HAIWKW 2H1O2N2

[mental snow]

HOLY SHIT

[pastel plank]

Like what?

[strange knot]

Shard system

[exotic cedar]

Wishes, boss quality, shard system, rosary problem

[still osprey]

Silksong is not perfect by any means but that's ok I can still have fun and enjoy it 🎉

[pastel plank]

When I came back to pantheons after beating Silksong I realized how broken Broken Vessel actually is 😭🥀

[orchid spruce]

Silksong is flawless

[pastel plank]

What's the problem with it?

[orchid spruce]

Its only flaw is that it's woke

[still osprey]

But I love gay people

[strange knot]

It’s unnecessary and tries to balance reds while failing and making them way less enjoyable

[still osprey]

Except for Green Prince FUCK that guy

[pastel plank]

On a serious note, it's fanmade sandsea area with Caravantula fast travel

[torpid swift]

das awesome..

[still osprey]

I wonder just how much cut content dlc will bring into silksong

Like obviously there's Pharloom Bay and Sharpe that are on the way

But I wonder if there'll be any more

[pastel plank]

Idk apart from my first playthrough when I didn't have enough skills and knowledge of the game, there were situations when I would not have enough shards (like at High Halls gauntlet), but I'm pretty sure I was very poorly prepared for it to begin with. On my second full playthrough now there was never a situation when I needed a single shard

[strange knot]

They are definitely not bringing coral forest back

[orchid spruce]

Lion Village

[pastel plank]

I have 100%ed the game and speedrun the Weaver Queen ending prior to that however, I guess it may make my assessment less fair since I got used to getting away with 0 tools

[exotic cedar]

They will also add me

[pastel plank]

Wasn't that obvious already?

They almost literally said that in the interview

[orchid spruce]

Silksong is finally a masterpiece

[pastel plank]

The lab most likely

[exotic cedar]

🥹

[strange knot]

On second playthrough you die way less, you probably didn’t use as much tools etc

[still osprey]

To combat this they will also add me to it so it's gonna be shit again

[flat mason]

Trueee

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/sport-running-running-away-gif-12080866026787605323

[pastel plank]

I don't think there will be any major cut stuff

[mental snow]

Every second, there is a 1 in 10000 chance Withered Foxy will jumpscare me

[still osprey]

That's part of Pharloom Bay, yes

[pastel plank]

Apart from what we already know

[exotic cedar]

😨

[pastel plank]

I would argue it's a separate area

[strange knot]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuu-nuu-nuu-truth-nuke-truth-nuu-silksong-silksong-gif-10564066084991347166

[pastel plank]

It's too big to not be a separate area imo

[exotic cedar]

I honestly think we will use the submarine to access lifeblood spire

[exotic cedar]

Why is nuu in this

[orchid spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694394891584667683/1365845428305793084/IMG_20250415_131019.gif

[strange knot]

Idk

[still osprey]

Got something against Nuu?

[grizzled sierra]

hitting the false crab with the truth nuu

[exotic cedar]

She also got gray so she fucking died

[pastel plank]

Examine these exhibits now

[flat mason]

When will we get fnaf but there's a 1 in 10000 chance AnyRad fight starts

[grizzled sierra]

where’s the broom closet

[mental snow]

"5 AM, come on, come on-" boss music starts

[exotic cedar]

This is silksong if it uhhh had a larger map

[orchid spruce]

It's probably gonna be: go to Pharloom Bay, use a submarine to reach an area to unlock ability to swim. Then use that swimming to explore the rest of the Bay and Spire. Also, maybe some other areas will have added water rooms. But maybe I'm just ender-lilies-rotted atm.

[pastel plank]

True. But I still feel like it makes sense that there's a limit of how many tools you can use. It makes it more balanced for traversal

[grizzled sierra]

wdym this is silksong if it didn’t have the broom closet

[pastel plank]

Oh wait..

[still osprey]

Silksong if it was actually worth the wait

[flat mason]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[pastel plank]

You're right tho, why not make it so you just craft more at the bench

[orchid spruce]

turn the radio on, it's friday night and it won't be long

[mental snow]

Double Skarr Guard is a bit of a spicy fight

[exotic cedar]

That sounds cool

[orchid spruce]

[pastel plank]

Pretty much confirmed

[pastel plank]

Who?

[orchid spruce]

Pray

[grizzled sierra]

the broom closet area

[strange knot]

They could’ve limited red tools a better way

[pastel plank]

We will go underwater

[strange knot]

Or at least make shards not disappear on deaths

[still osprey]

I don't really dislike the shell shard system but I also understand I'm a minority

[pastel plank]

What is that?

[orchid spruce]

I love grinding rosaries for 30 minutes to buy shard bundles

[flat mason]

Being completely honest, Ender Lilies' swim got me thinking "aaah, that's what Silksong was missing

[grizzled sierra]

did you pirate that silksong cause pretty sure broom closet area should be there

[orchid spruce]

It's a core part of the Silksong experience

[orchid spruce]

lmao

[strange knot]

Holy truth nova

[still osprey]

I've never felt the need to grind shard bundles tbh

Like 99% of the time I am very good on shell shards

[mental snow]

Yeah Dashless Double Skarr Guard is pretty damn hard

[pastel plank]

I think shards make sense for conceptual reasons from the lore perspective, but honestly I agree that maybe they could've just made it so you make more on the bench just by sitting on it

[strange knot]

I almost never grinded for shard bundles

[silk monolith]

I finally got the 100% steelsoul save file with all mementos and materium done

[still osprey]

And I use tools pretty regularly, not cheap ones either

[orchid spruce]

We were naive enough to use the game's core mechanics

[exotic cedar]

Congrulation

[orchid spruce]

So we had to grind for shards

[silk monolith]

now I can stop playing this slop

[orchid spruce]

You were smarter and decided not to use red tools

[strange knot]

But that’s cuz I don’t use reds outside of speedruns and other not casual shit

[orchid spruce]

[grizzled sierra]

under 30 hours right

[still osprey]

:nom:

[pastel plank]

Might be an insane question after 150+ hours of silksong but.. do they...? I genuinely didn't notice LOL

[flat mason]

Finally

[strange knot]

If you used tools they don’t give back your shards

[pastel plank]

???

[strange knot]

That’s what I meant

I phrased that badly

[silk monolith]

oh that was done a while back lmao this one took me 19 hours to get all mementos

[grizzled sierra]

look Í just give up about you not knowing about broom closet area imma go

[mental snow]

Oh yeah, did you get the broom closet ending? The broom closet ending was my favourite

[orchid spruce]

See how they didn't have achievements for mementos. This means the current game is unfinished and in early access.

[grizzled sierra]

exactly

[orchid spruce]

Sea of Sorrow will be the full release

[silk monolith]

theres gonna be a water memento

water i hardly know her

[pastel plank]

Oh that's true. I thought you said you lose when with the cacoon

[silk monolith]

ts like gym badges from pokemon

[grizzled sierra]

nah return to hallownest and kill pale kings already dead body

[pastel plank]

Ohhg this one

[orchid spruce]

yes 🔥 we need more "thematic shifts"

[pastel plank]

The tentacle spire

[exotic cedar]

Is that squidward

[mental snow]

My laptop sucks ass man, I gotta lower the quality so much to be able to record

[pastel plank]

"Pantheons" too

[silk monolith]

oh yeah weird shit happened i seem to not have 1 memory locket and idk where the last one is i checked everywhere

yes I did get the bellhart one

[orchid spruce]

probably the one in the guy that sells alcohol

[pastel plank]

Yes, SquidWard, ward at the top of the gorge of coral

[grizzled sierra]

did you get the bellhart on-

[orchid spruce]

halfway home

[silk monolith]

thats done too

[pastel plank]

Like whiteward but..

You know

[orchid spruce]

the one near greymoor bellway

[exotic cedar]

I do not like memory lockets that much they make me angry

[silk monolith]

I usually go into act 3 with all crest slots fully unlocked this time i was missing one

[silk monolith]

twinjamin thats too easy

[pastel plank]

Diving bell?

[orchid spruce]

just throw it in a save analyzer

[pastel plank]

Iirc it's a memory locket

[silk monolith]

done

[orchid spruce]

[pastel plank]

The check there

[silk monolith]

save analyzer i hardly know her

[orchid spruce]

i am going to kill you

[flat mason]

Don't do that, that's mean

[pastel plank]

Holy shi I actually need to share my rage and profound levels of agony I have experienced in this area

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-knife-gif-208826817266663394

go, my little assassin

[pastel plank]

I utterly despise Deep Docks' simple lock part

[grizzled sierra]

why did you release hornets cat in dlc 99 what is free

[mental snow]

I beat double Skarr Guard finally

[flat mason]

Why

[pastel plank]

I had to do this in act 3 for the first time on my first playthrough

[silk monolith]

you dont need a simple key to go into deeper docks by the way I found out very recently

[mental snow]

Now I can turn the quality back up

[pastel plank]

I forgot to clear it in act 2

Imagine voided bombers

[flat mason]

Oh, lol

[silk monolith]

and it was common sense too idk why I didnt figure that out before

[pastel plank]

Closed arena with 2 of them at the same time

And a bunch of enemies

😭✌️

Signis & Gron with voided summons

[split lodge]

First tried first sinner let’s go

[silk monolith]

damn I thought you had to take a look at the diving bell if you wanted to start act 3

[silk monolith]

lets go

[split lodge]

This is utterly diabolical

[pastel plank]

Last tried Last Judge don't let us sit

[silk monolith]

what that means

[fathom schooner]

This isnt that bad

[fathom schooner]

They only summon the rock thrower and the cymbal dude

[mental snow]

The Skarr Gauntlet is absolutely fucking chaotic

[grizzled sierra]

does it mean you was last person to ever do last judge?

[pastel plank]

True but super annoying

[mental snow]

There are 2 Shakras and of course, 2 of each Skarr

[fathom schooner]

A bit

[silk monolith]

im glad broodmother doesn't void in act 3 but I had a huge heart attack fighting beastfly 2 in act 3

[fathom schooner]

Try skipping moorwing next

[pastel plank]

Cause they cover the white arena in some sort of projectiles/the black saw thing

[silk monolith]

dont skip moorwing its too easy

[pastel plank]

Justice for old moorwing

[fathom schooner]

If you skip it till act 3 it gets voided

Which doubles its HP

[pastel plank]

What moorwing really needed was fixing its flying so it doesn't randomly bump into you

[flat mason]

Moorwing is so cute

[silk monolith]

moorwing prolly taste so good

[fathom schooner]

I love seeing moorwing at fleatopia

[flat mason]

Nooooo

[pastel plank]

I've noticed that that was really the issue for most people on their first playthrough

[pastel plank]

I know right

[silk monolith]

I should check out 100% speedruns see what route they taking in act 2

[fathom schooner]

Alot of what i saw for early moorwing was either over extending (and then getting contact damage) or just never approaching during phase 2 when moorwing spams the saw cutters

Which is funny because hunter crest has a 5 hit window on like 2 of moorwings attacks

[split lodge]

To be fair last judge can be the last boss you fight in act 2 before GMS

[silk monolith]

cause my act 2 is straight poop dawg it takes me 7hrs to get to act 3

[pastel plank]

How does Huntress know Hornet is a spider?

[silk monolith]

eyes

[orchid spruce]

[fathom schooner]

Spooder sense

[silk monolith]

is huntress blind

[split lodge]

Even if you defeated the last judge, backtrack and enter the citadel through phantom

[pastel plank]

Where the spiderness

[split lodge]

The east side are most of what’s important

[pastel plank]

She kinda looks like a non spider

[flat mason]

WHA

[silk monolith]

you scuttlebrace

[silk monolith]

what are you talking about why would I do that

[flat mason]

THAT'S SO CUTE

[orchid spruce]

finding good emojis

[split lodge]

Get directly to the grand bellway, go to songclave, get whiteward key, get clawline and double jump, all before cogwork dancers

[pastel plank]

The true sinner

[split lodge]

It makes the game significantly easier

[silk monolith]

cogwork dancers is so fast im not doing mist that early

fuck the mist all my homies hate the mist

[pastel plank]

True actually

[split lodge]

Defeat the last judge and ignore the gate it’s blocking

[pastel plank]

Haven't thought about that

[split lodge]

With double jump you’ve basically unlocked the whole game and can just get voltvessels from memorium to bully every boss

[pastel plank]

Actually I did go that way on one of my playthroughs and hated it too

[split lodge]

Use threefold pin on the wraiths

[pastel plank]

I didn't have claw line :c

[silk monolith]

dude i used to run phantom route and bells is much better

[pastel plank]

Didn't have a single tool

[pastel plank]

Bells is better

[silk monolith]

bells and then you go beat dancers and do the exact same shit get the key get harpoon get wings

its not that much time difference and its better

[pastel plank]

I kinda got used to not using them to the point that on my current playthrough I decided to get some tools and after that I completely forgot that I hadn't upgraded my needle. Had to get at least the first one before HH

[fathom schooner]

Okay but if your 100% running its better since you get cross stich by going through the mist and dont need to run through blasted steps at all

[split lodge]

Phantom is easier than judge, gives you a good skill, and lets you unlock your full kit faster

[fathom schooner]

You can go directly from bellhart post widow into the mist

[split lodge]

A full kit makes the blasted steps runback a joke lmao

[pastel plank]

For 100% you'll need to get all memory sockets

[fathom schooner]

Last judge dosent give any % but phantom does

[pastel plank]

One of them is there

[silk monolith]

blasted steps is light work

[split lodge]

Technically no, you need only enough to bind eva

[pastel plank]

Lockets or sockets man

[fathom schooner]

You have to go there no matter what but its way faster to just go back through greymoor and up sinners road

[split lodge]

You need to defeat it anyway because the caravan moves there before ducts and you need it for 100%

[silk monolith]

why are we talking about runbacks lmao ion got time to even buy benches

[pastel plank]

I'm pretty sure you do, I remember it distinctly that I had 99% and then after picking up the last one got 100%

[fathom schooner]

You need to go there anyway for sands entrance, grindle shop and fleas

But you might as well rush clawline and wings and then do ALL of act 2 one area at a time

[pastel plank]

Why would you need runbacks, just don't die

[silk monolith]

its taking me 48 minutes to get into act 2 and its 8 hours when I get to act 3 I need to know why im going that fucking slow in act 2

[split lodge]

Binding eva counts the number of crest slots you have other than hunter’s and you only need 27 to bind them so you technically can skip 5 memory lockets

[fathom schooner]

Since its faster to just ignore everything, sprint through act 1, get act 2 mobility then go get everything

[pastel plank]

Oh okay

[silk monolith]

yeah stop running hunter after getting like wanderer cause Eva doesn't count hunter slots

[fathom schooner]

Yeah you can bind eva act 2 if you put all available lockets into every crest but hunter

[split lodge]

Yes

[fathom schooner]

Honestly grab reaper while at greymoor since you need to anyway and it gives you an upside, then switch to wanderer once you go back to bone bottom

[pastel plank]

Can you use architects crest to get some types of organs for the Huntress?

[fathom schooner]

Reaper has the advantage of not being out of the way

[fathom schooner]

Shredded organs yes

[split lodge]

Yes. The down pogo and needle strike

[fathom schooner]

The basic needle on architect is "shred"

[pastel plank]

Is that a speedrun route? Cause for relatively casual playthrough I feel like the time safe is not that significant

[split lodge]

You can get organs from lost garmond ✨

[silk monolith]

valid but what i do is get faydown and js start at bone bottom and do everything so I got wanderer running the moment I get off mount fay

[pastel plank]

real? :0

[fathom schooner]

So if your running you have to go past moorwing, which reaper is next to

But youd need to run BACK to bone bottom for wanderer

[pastel plank]

I found out that you can get some by using beast pogo today

[pastel plank]

What's the last one? Is it flintslate?

[fathom schooner]

So your better off just grabbing reaper purely for a crest you can actually use 2 blue and red tools on since you cant use that on hunter

[pastel plank]

Uhh true

[fathom schooner]

And then once you head back to bone bottom you grab wanderer

[old compass]

guys maybe we shouldn't be feeding the kids void organ

[fathom schooner]

We should 100% feed the kids void organs

[orchid spruce]

The less these gruesome bugs breed, the better

[fathom schooner]

The knight had void organs and they grew up big and strong into the shade lord

[pastel plank]

Do relics count towards completion?

[fathom schooner]

Eat your void kids

Completion is over 50% tools

[orchid spruce]

relics don't count iirc

[fathom schooner]

Tools, crests, binded abilities, full masks, full spools

[orchid spruce]

[pastel plank]

But do relics count?

[fathom schooner]

3 silk hearts, 5 full masks, 6 binded abilities, 6 silk skills, 9 spools, 7 crests, tools

No

[pastel plank]

What bosses count?

[fathom schooner]

None

Silksong has this thing where unlike HK only things that directly get added to your inventory are %

[exotic cedar]

Good ending

[pastel plank]

Isn't that the mother's body ripped open?

[fathom schooner]

Reminder that low% for skong is 5%

Its over 20 in HK still because some bosses count

[pastel plank]

Oh cool

[exotic cedar]

She's still there

[pastel plank]

Cause HK was weird in that

[exotic cedar]

I think (im not sure)

[pastel plank]

Yes they do

[fathom schooner]

Honestly i find silksong weirder because you aren't actually required to kill bosses that dont directly give you inventory items/skills

[mental snow]

Bois, it happened
The Withered Foxy 1 in 10K chance jumpscare happened.

[loud badge]

.i

[exotic cedar]

I'm talking about the image, the huntress looks fine
And the kid is floating

[pastel plank]

So following this logic it's likely that SOS will add like 5% max

[exotic cedar]

Its prob a edited image

[fathom schooner]

If you can find a way to skip a boss and they don't give a tool you just never need to fight them

[pastel plank]

The kid is standing on a shell

[fathom schooner]

Like you only need to kill last judge because the fleas wont move if you dont

Otherwise you have 0 reason to kill them

[exotic cedar]

This is how it actually looks like

[severe steeple]

if youre a dirty sinner

[fathom schooner]

Phantom on top cross stitch is amazing

Phantom is also a cooler fight

[pastel plank]

I think that too personally. I don't really like how a significant chuck of bosses are quest-based

[orchid spruce]

sniff sniff

[pastel plank]

To me the whole thing feels less immersive, more like a video game

[orchid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-smell-float-bon-sponge-gif-15840520

[fathom schooner]

Silksong as a whole is more directed than HK was

[pastel plank]

Oh true I forgot

Is mommy cooked yet?

[fathom schooner]

Instead of wandering around for a few hours until you EVENTUALLY fall into the dreamnail pit

You immediately get told "you must go UP"

[pastel plank]

That's good yeah

That imo is better

[fathom schooner]

Eh

[pastel plank]

But some aspects feel a bit less immersive

Like us only being able to find some bosses after getting a quest

[fathom schooner]

I preferred hk only giving you the dreamers as marked locations

[pastel plank]

Like why was there no transition in the marrow leading to the Skull Tyrant?

[fathom schooner]

Savage beastfly 2 re uses an arena, but i dont think its there until you accept the quest

[pastel plank]

I do understand that it's so we don't find it before the quest, but I mean it from more of a lore/universe perspective

[pastel plank]

Same

[fathom schooner]

Honestly let us find things before quests

Then we get to "i gotta do.... oh cool"

[pastel plank]

Agreed. We do get to do that with Groal, why not with everything else?

[pastel plank]

Mossberries too

[fathom schooner]

We get to do that with a handful of things

[severe steeple]

would have been better if skull tyrant invaded bonebottom if you didnt find it before a certain point and if you killed it, it wouldnt destroy bone bottom

[fathom schooner]

Mossberries, void masses, groal

[sharp slate]

they should have put savage beastfly two in the mask shard arena in far fields

fresh arena for beastfly2

[fathom schooner]

Never cook again please

[pastel plank]

This would actually make more sense imo, cause this way it feels like we would've been better off not finding him lol

[mental snow]

So you guys know those enemies in Deep Docks that throw bombs?

[severe steeple]

*nukes

[mental snow]

Yeah one glitched because of the double enemies mod and now he's invulnerable.

[sharp slate]

indeed

[pastel plank]

The one with platforms drowning in lava?..

[sharp slate]

oh yea, the one in the background

[mental snow]

Now I have a perpetual bomb generator.

Aimed at me.

[sharp slate]

yes 😎

[pastel plank]

I have written a rant about it earlier

[sharp slate]

yea i remeber that, we were chattin about bomb boy yesterday

and the lovely lower docks arena

[mental snow]

Thankfully I got all I needed here so I can quit out now

[pastel plank]

You know what actually, no, it's not that you shouldn't cook, you're cooked, we need to cook you in that lava for ideas like that

[mental snow]

Going into Double Lace 1 fight now

[pastel plank]

Oh true

[sharp slate]

its VERY FUN

[pastel plank]

I reiterated it today 😭

[fathom schooner]

Throw this MFer in the void he cooked so bad

[sharp slate]

double enemies is pretty solid till you get to widow

[mental snow]

Oh actually lemme get the spool

[severe steeple]

In general I think only a handfull of bosses should have been quest bosses. Broodmother really did not need to be a quest boss, you hear her crying in the entire slab so if you ever go back to or through the slab for example because of one of the lacker quest you would hear her anyway

[fathom schooner]

Oh god widow

[sharp slate]

then you want to rip out your hair

[mental snow]

I expect it to be lol

[fathom schooner]

Broodmother was annoying because i didn't get kidnapped to the slab this run

[sharp slate]

biggest choke points of double bosses are widow, lastjudge/phantom, trobbio, high halls arena for regular ending, maybe lace 2 as well

[fathom schooner]

So i have to run through the kidnapped route ANYWAY just to get broodmother to spawn

You have to get the keys anyway for a mask shard but

And a spool fragment

[exotic cedar]

Double enemy high halls was very fun i wish i didn't disable the silk stealer guys

[sharp slate]

are you doing synced boss health or unsynced btw?

[fathom schooner]

The slab ironically has alot of stuff for such a cramped area

[sharp slate]

you can always do it again, but in steel soul 😎

[severe steeple]

you can get into the slab without ever being kidnapped im not sure exactly how I think you use apostle key somewhere which you dont need to get kidnapped for

[fathom schooner]

Sharp dart on top

[exotic cedar]

😨

[mental snow]

I uh don't know. I think it's unsynced.

[fathom schooner]

Yes i know i did it

[sharp slate]

i think thats the default so noted

alpre did you do synced or unsynced @exotic cedar

[vestal knot]

Heyyyy guuuuysss

[fathom schooner]

Thats why im complaining, you have to run through the kidnapped route ANYWAY

You get in through the citadels bridge to the slab

[mental snow]

So uhhhhhh... Double Lace.
How do I fight both Laces?
The 2nd is just kinda there.

[fathom schooner]

He didn't even make it look edible he was cooking straight charcoal

[severe steeple]

well its not really the kidnapped route its an alternate route, otherwise people who dont get kidnapped would never explore the slab,

[sharp slate]

oh kill yourself and come back to the arena

[fathom schooner]

I mean you have to for a mask shard and spool frag

[sharp slate]

i forgot its glitched

[mental snow]

Okay good thing I intentionally didn't lock in

Thank you

[fathom schooner]

So you dont get a choice you outright have to run the escape route even if you dont get kidnapped

Like you just get the ability to have your stuff on you as you do the kidnapped run

[severe steeple]

well I mean makes sense, otherwise the entire slab would have nothing of value

[fathom schooner]

As i also just said its pretty funny that the slab has so much stuff of value for a cramped space

[severe steeple]

so i dont see the problem

[fathom schooner]

Mask shard, spool fragment, silk skill (unfortunately useless one)

[mental snow]

Oh nevermind. It's synced boss health.

[fathom schooner]

Its annoying because half the escape route is empty lol

[mental snow]

That's weird, because Moss Mothers weren't synced....

[severe steeple]

rune rage is far from useless and excells in certain admitedly niche scenarios

[fathom schooner]

Its by far the worst silk skill

[old compass]

rune rage is awkward to use

that's enough reason to hate it

[fathom schooner]

Its cool as fuck, but its pure RNG and it dosent follow the usual spell damage scaling the others do

[mental snow]

All in all, Double Lace? VERY fun, I enjoyed that

[fathom schooner]

So its REALLY bad unless your fighting bell eater

[severe steeple]

Nah its not the worst because it does something no other silk skill can do, compare that to silk spear vs silkdart both almost the exact same

[fathom schooner]

Sharpdart outdamages all spells lol

[sharp slate]

probably just some jank with mod tbh

[mental snow]

True

[sharp slate]

i honestly think double lace 1 is my favorite double boss

[fathom schooner]

With the exception of landing SIX rune rage hits on the same target, or an endgame full extension threadstorm, sharpdart just does more

[sharp slate]

i should do a double boss tier list

[mental snow]

Well it's not the coolest obviously, but it was enjoyable

[severe steeple]

which makes silk spear basically redundant

[sharp slate]

spear has a few uses still, not as many though imo

[fathom schooner]

Silk spear gets equal damage with shaman and volt filament because sharpdart got nerfed on those aspects

Silk spear also lets you keep your positioning, so its a bit different

[mental snow]

FUCK I FORGOT THE SPOOL BACK IN MARROW

[sharp slate]

if an boss is against a wall you rather have spear then sharpdart, because smacking into wall with sharpdart will cancel your iframes

[fathom schooner]

Unfortunately pale nails also sucks

[severe steeple]

equal damage but does nothing unique and sacrifices utility with its invulnerability for a lick of extra range

[fathom schooner]

Faster start up time

[sharp slate]

pale nails have their use, they are used to preload damage during times when bosses are off screen

[fathom schooner]

Longer range, gets buffed better

[sharp slate]

conchflies for example

[severe steeple]

but longer time for you to get hit

[fathom schooner]

No

[severe steeple]

you are not invulnerable

[fathom schooner]

It activates faster and has just short of no endlag

Sharpdart has a decent startup, you need to use sharpdart before your actually in danger

[sharp slate]

you can chain silkspears pretty quick when the boss is against a wall, trobbio is a big example

[fathom schooner]

Or you get hit

Knockback too thats a good point

[severe steeple]

rune rage excells in coral tower, delivery quests and big bosses such as groal or bell eater. It is niche but I would not call it the worst honestly it might be pale nails for me

[fathom schooner]

You cant sharpdart spam the same way you can with silkspear

[sharp slate]

funny side note for spear, using spear against unravelled corpses to hit both corpse and the unravelled

[fathom schooner]

Coral tower sharpdart does better

Or threadstorm

[orchid spruce]

Isn't Pale Nails literally the best skill, what happened

[fathom schooner]

Or cross stitch

[severe steeple]

sharpdart cant one shot big guy waves the second they spawn

[orchid spruce]

Was it nerfed

[fathom schooner]

It does bad damage

[sharp slate]

sharpdart is the goat for the last arena in coral, havent tested it for the rest

[fathom schooner]

No everything bad got buffed

[severe steeple]

rune rage is good in coral tower because if you have the right timing you can insta kill any wave

[orchid spruce]

[sharp slate]

yea but you use the iframes from sharpdart to hit the enemy after you use it

and then they die

[fathom schooner]

Turns out when parry and shadow dash do more or the same damage, pale nails isnt very good

[sharp slate]

with shamans it takes a sharpdart and 1 hit to kill the bubble ass enemies in coral

[fathom schooner]

If it hits

[fathom schooner]

Ye, shaman is nuts in tower

Rune rage is bad because the player dosent get a say in how effective it is

[sharp slate]

tbh curious of rune rage in tower, i have my doubts, but ill have to test it for myself before slandering it fully

[severe steeple]

it basicaly allways hits when timed right because enemies stay for a second after spawning

[fathom schooner]

You have a long cast time, random and usually middling results